Sunspot's Ben Jaeger Teaching Future Generations

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Sunspot's Ben Jaeger Teaching Future Generations

Max Ink Radio · Sat Sep 28, 2024

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now we have Jeremiah James band Jeremiah James on the phone Jeremiah James

band is the electrification of indie groove rock in Wisconsin based in

Green Bay husband and wife songwriting team Jeremiah and Elmi jam Emily

James are at the heart of the band that features an outstanding rhythm section

as you just heard and on the phone with us right now from the jam

boozled music and art festival in Mendoza Illinois

satellites are aligned Jeremiah James Jeremiah welcome to maxing

radio hey everybody how you doing thanks for having us on yeah you know you

got to be careful when you're out there you're that far away from civilization

way out there the the phones just barely work right yeah it's body out here

at the show that's for sure where is Mendoza Illinois and Illinois I guess I

don't even know as a Wisconsin person why would we right it's just like a

little south of Chicago but more central Illinois there's just lots of cows and

more at less hours apparently yeah yeah it's actually kind of like where I live

in Wisconsin it's like brilliant out there it's just a lot of corn and farms yeah

there you go now you're playing jam boozled tonight who else is playing at jam

boozled anyone we might know highlights there's it's a lot of up and coming bands

we have eminence ensemble that played they're from Colorado and a bunch of new

acts that I'm actually just getting to know today so it's been a good learning

experience I open a lot of the new musicians yeah awesome love it Jeremiah before

we talk about your band upcoming shows and music how did you become involved in

music I mean what's your backstory my backstory is I come from musical

families my dad was a guitar player and active musician and that's how I fell in

love with music was through his love of music and my parents took me to see the

grateful dead when I was a kid really young and just all the positive energy

that resulted from the music really moved me to become a musician and I

that's what started my journey do you play other instruments besides guitar I

just played guitar that's my soul instrument I focus on I can play bass as well

because it's similar instrument for sure but I'm always been solely a guitar player

now you and your wife Emily are a songwriting duo and she's a multi-instrumentalist

how did you meet Emily and you know start this band with her yeah Emily amazing

musician I'm so lucky to play with and of course be her husband but we met on

stage we got hired for the same band at a local open mic that was every

Thursday night at cranky pad moon and Wisconsin oh yeah some of the best

beats are around right and we just hit it off right away and it was

undeniable there was a connection musically and many other levels as well and

and then we just started the band kind of for fun on the side because we were in

a cover band and a couple other projects and we quickly realized we could

write music easily together and it just took off from there now do you did you

guys play your wedding because I saw a picture of Emily playing sax and a wedding

dress yeah she sure did play in a wedding as well and keyboard it was pretty

cool I pictures their hair suddenly open everything but yeah for our

reception we just played with all the bands we were in at that time and it was

just a blast at cranky pad wow when was this when did that happen this was

five years ago five years ago well congratulations five years late do you guys

argue about restaurants or driving directions we actually don't argue about

too much it's one of the beauties it's been one of those things that's just

always worked for us you know yeah we support each other a lot and you know when

you spend so much time together because we always work together we we learn

when to give each other space and all that and it's always just kind of been a

good thing well tell us about the Jeremiah James band I mean what's the back

story for the band and and you guys have this just an outstanding rhythm section

well thank you we're very fortunate to work with a bunch of different rhythm

sections from all over Northeast Wisconsin we just started out with you know

the dream of having the same core people forever but that didn't work out you

know and we realized and that kind of happened right around the pandemic time

right after we released our first album and being the pandemic we had to work

remotely with players and we worked with some national people and local players

and we are like why don't we just keep this idea going for live shows when it

comes back and that's what we've done we just have made friends with you know a

lot of different players and it's it's been a beautiful thing to come like a

little family of musicians that you know we get our blessed to work with wow

that's a great story can't wait to see the band but you know we can see the

band around Wisconsin coming up I see you have some upcoming shows at the

Opie Brewing Company in West Dallas on October 4th at the tracks in Green Bay on

the 5th of October and then the one barrel brewing pumpkin patch festival

that's up in Eck Harbor in Dark County on the 12th of October that sounds like

a lot of fun and it's a good time up there that one barrel brewing in general

but that pumpkin patch festival is a big deal in Dark County and it's a really

good time. Wow it sounds like a lot of fun I love Dark County then the Stone

Arch Sessions at Stone Arch Brewing Company in Appleton on the 15th of

October Musca the Cultural Center on the 17th what what is that place I kind of

was trying to look for it right the culture all I apologize that is a miss

typing on there let me pull it is called the Mova Cultural Center it could be a

big difference there to be so I apologize for that miss type now I know I couldn't

find it here yeah it's a brand new place in Depeer Wisconsin right on the

water beautiful center they do a lot of things for the arts and we're very

blessed to play there I'm excited to do that that will be our first time playing

there as well as the Stone Arch Sessions that's a great little musical venue

that they have going in Appleton they've been doing it for years and we're

excited to be a part of it then I see enduzis and Kimberly on the 19th of

October you guys are playing a lot mechanized grilling spirits in Green Bay on

the 26th 5th Ward Brewing Company and anniversary party in Oshkosh on the 15th

of November and then you're wrapping it up Waverly Breach Waverly Beach in

Manasha on November 16th yeah it's a nice little runoff shows we try to play

as often as we can and that's partly what led to us using so many different

rhythm sessions because it's hard to find people who can play as often as Emily

and I are able to you know um so that's partly what led to that opening up to

such a nice thing for us now tell us about your music catalog upcoming releases

and where we can find more information about Jeremiah Jam's band online oh

definitely thank you very much um you can find us on our website of course

Jeremiah Jam's band.com Facebook Instagram and TikTok and of course

everywhere you buy music iTunes amazon music youtube music um we just released a

new instrumental called uncle buck that was released yesterday we're excited for that one

and then on july 19th we released a different song called be true to yourself

those two songs are a part of our upcoming third album that will be released

hopefully the end of this year and maybe beginning of next year it all depends on how it works out

um and the cool thing each tune we're releasing a different part of our artwork from the album

and it's slowly revealing the artwork as each single is released wow and we're blessed to work

with Caleb Williams he's a nationally known artist that works with like Billy Strings and

Trana Stazio string cheese incident stuff like that um so we're pretty excited for the whole

project in general the music and the art going with it Jeremiah Jam's thank you so much for

taking the time to speak with us tonight on maxing radio we really appreciate it

excellent uh we appreciate you guys talking to us and uh thank you for everything you guys do for

music now right now we're gonna listen to another one of your songs this is called moon light star

you're listening to Jeremiah Jam's man on maxing radio we are local music

Alright, we are here, we are live in the lair on Maxing Radio presented by the ear and

webber group, I'm rocker here with Rob Roberts. Lake Wave's trio is a Madison-centric group

based outfit that creates celestial originals with an eclectic, progressive, soundscape

instrumentalism and like their offbeat song titles allude to the experimental music creates

a fitting soundtrack to anything from bank robies to impromptu dance parties. Led by

Graham Marlow, the since-and-sizer graffiti artist, the Lake Wave's trio is live in the

lair. Graham Marlow, Mason Ammanstahl, and Will Bailey, welcome to Maxing Radio.

Alright, hey Lake Wave's trio played on State Street in Madison for the night market

and you know when you guys are downtown, what's your favorite restaurant to eat at before

or after a show? I don't know if it's anything specific like to the name, but I generally

go for like Thai food, something spicy and nutrient-dense. Nice. Is there Thai food

down on State Street? On the perimeter of the very least. Alright, I know there's one

over on Willie, but I didn't know about State. We'll have to check it out. Graham Marlow,

the synthesizer graffiti artist from Pulaski, Wisconsin. How did you get involved in music

and tell us a little bit about your backstory? Sure. Well, Pulaski was kind of like a sure

what Anderson short story kind of place, you know, like 11 bars in a Catholic church

literally at one point. So what a contrast. Right. And so you, I don't know, just start

seeking new places and your imagination runs wild, being in a place like that, just because

you're so removed from everything else. But I took piano lessons, like classical level

in middle school, didn't have the discipline in me until I got really out of high school.

I was starting to turn into like a keyboardist in high school. I did the jazz ensembles.

I did a lot of experimentation in different styles and stuff. Roger bands.

Yeah, yeah. And you know, I was really more of a percussionist in the beginning. So I think

that gave me a good baseline to kind of jump around. But keyboards have been primary since like 1516

and been more professional about it since my early 20s. I guess you could say. And what role

did your parents play with you, you know, getting into music? Were they involved in music?

To an extent, like my mom sang in church and stuff like that, I think that's as much as she

had time for when she was raising us. But really beautiful voice. I always just kind of wish

she had used it more. My dad was more of like, you know, the prog rock vein jazz. That's right.

experimentation. Just like kind of into bands that could go off the page and come back. But then

also like really have a well crafted song like Rush, you know, like the live show was a,

you know, almost like a cartoon. So this on top of that though, I had two brothers that were

professional jazz musicians at 1.1 was playing with like Miles Davis electric band alum like in

their college five o'clock band stuff, Clark Terry. And I had no idea who those guys were when I was

younger, but I just kind of thought, oh, this is another concert of my oldest brother. And it's

going to be good. I didn't really connect the dots and connect the dots at the time. But yeah,

it's really intimidating to think about in hindsight, but that gave me a good set the bar. Yeah,

like almost intimidatingly high, but brought some neat things out of me, I think.

Wow, that's pretty cool. And what synthesizer wizards did you listen to? Did you listen to any of

the prog guys, you know, the solo guys like Johnny Kuznar? Who are you into? Who inspired you?

Yeah, yeah. That's a one name I was going to mention. The Tangerine Dream Guys,

they've made really brilliant albums up until recently, especially with like some German electronic

producers that are more like up and coming that they've worked with Ulrich Nows and those guys.

I think that some of the guys that were sort of the, I don't know if I have the right now in per se,

but just dip me into some deeper waters, musically speaking, like Joe Zawinol,

Czechorea, anyone who was kind of on the edge of where like Jazz and Rock crossover into one

another and then you're into this kind of space to your progressive anything can happen kind of

space, but like almost in a different planet, kind of floating in a way from the improvisation

type of thing. So that's always something I've been kind of attracted to in general. You know,

bands that could go off the page and come back, I could have the skill to just kind of take risks

and trust each other and, you know, not Graham, you have a degree in music and English from St.

Norbert College and DePierre Wisconsin, and you studied with some great academics including

Late Jazz Director Fred Sturm of Appleton's Lawrence University. Tell us about your your college

music life. Yeah, I was in social groups and stuff, so I was out a lot, but I was also you know

up practicing late most days, I would say at the end of everything. So like I had an odd balance,

but Fred Sturm was someone in the area that I had always wanted to learn more from and before

he was in the throes of like cancer and stuff. I had the privilege to kind of study with him a little

bit or at least like do a form of ear training with him that I thought was really helpful and kind

of like imagistic. For instance, one of the exercises that we would do at his house was we'd

pick out a scene from a movie that either he really enjoyed it that I really enjoyed and we'd

splice out different kinds of music to get a different emotional response. And I always thought

that was a really cool way to to learn music to kind of puts you on high alert in a way as you

cycle through things, but also just like paying attention to all. Okay, so this is like more minor

jazz or this is more major and like bluegrassy or whatever it may be classical.

So you're kind of matching the emotion of what you were seeing in video and putting something

to fill it in an audio. Almost like a text painting in a while. Yeah. Or like a live painter would

do in a sense. That is a very that is very interesting. That's a that's a really cool thing to hear.

Well, let's get to some my music in the layer with Grand Marlos Lake waves trio presented by

the Aaron Weber group. The first song you have for us tonight is called Dance Party in a deserted

parking lot. Tell us about this song before you play. Well, Will and I were kind of a tweener

act for a long time within set in with groups and he produced artists out here and such, but

we got more serious with this project three, four years ago as far as like tracking it,

working the booking, connecting the dots with other like-minded artists, etc. I just kind of working

all of that at once. And there was a previous bass player before Mason. He did the first like

album and a quarter or more or less. He came from a more metal background. Can't really explain

it, but it just sort of fit. We would just get into stuff and come back to it and yeah. But um

I think Mason's more what the music always kind of wanted. As far as the title and that goes,

I guess that's where I might be like going from Aaron to Aaron. I might be in those four minutes

of my work at my break time at work where you get like this little you know flash of writing or

whatever and you can kind of capture the lightning in a bottle if you will. But um I think for a lot

of what we do uh kind of falls into that territory of like jazz fusion like it could be the soundtrack

for just about anything but sometimes it uh it just kind of makes sense. Like it's it's an onion

headline. It's like um similar to something like that you know but uh it really takes you there

before we start playing anything in a way like you're laughing before we you know really

uh I know I know of a deserted parking lot so I can see it right now. So you've already started

the images and it's just like it fits the whole like guerrilla marketing of what we do too a little

bit. There's no other way for me to do it. I think with this kind of music. Nice. Well let's hear it.

This is uh go ahead and jump behind your boards here. We have oh by the way we have a drum set,

a bass and this giant mass of the keyboard mountain over here, the grams playing.

So uh let's hear it right now. This is uh dance party in a deserted parking lot. This is

Graham Marlowe and Lake Waves Trio, Maxine Cretio, we're live in the lair.

Five in the leir,

Graham Marlowe's Lake Waive Trio all this little local service brought you by the

Aaron Weber group the first but first Weber the most reliable name in real estate

move to Madison dot com rocker I'm gonna tell you that was pretty amazing

just just watching what's going on with all the keyboards first of all there's

a mountain of keyboards okay it's okay then you're tweaking all the keyboards

and changing the sounds and just wow yeah just blown away that was pretty

incredible yeah and and the bass player man each of you just don't stop man no

not at all not at all and I want to mention here I don't know there's like

like 12 buttons down there lots and knobs I want to hear these guys do the peanut

song yeah yeah that's what I was thinking man yeah right oh man Graham you

often play solo but tonight you've brought in a band and we'll get to know your

band members individually but what does performing as a trio add to your music

and I actually know because we had you in the leir solo not too long ago and it

was very it was very kind of mellow but this is like wow yeah the I think the

solo thing is naturally more ethereal a lot of times I'm incorporating like

found sounds or sampling myself on a different keyboard tone like playing

against that or there's like an acoustic electric that you know thing but um

yeah I always felt like Lake waves trio was kind of the full calorie full

realization of my imagination you know like kind of where the music was kind of

meant to go you know it's kind of like we kind of take hardware as far as it

can without incorporating software I feel and I think they take some pride in

that especially since there's a lot of the electronic music school of thought

that I kind of operates around that where it's like you know try to make the

sounds like organically yeah yeah you're really playing the sounds you're

changing the shaping things as I put it down and then and then playing it on the

keyboard expressing it it's not just like a pre-programmed track or loop or

something I think that would yeah and I think that would make me feel a little bit

naked I don't I don't feel naked in the solo sets but like you know having

operate off of like samples and triggers only or primarily I think you know

that would kind of like pigeonhole myself almost but it's just with this kind of

rhythm section like anything's possible and I feel like every week that we meet

are we kind of you know scratch it that a little bit somehow like yeah because

there's that you know element of psychedelia that element of you know just

ambient like new age music yet you know it's over this like jazz rhythm you know

yeah exactly even maybe I don't know a little like boogie to it or you know a

little I think that bass that that's what makes your butt wanna shake to this

like almost like ambient music right yeah it's kind of interesting circles

around the Sun or you know one of those like modern instrumental groups that kind

of came out of the you know grateful dead family if you will feel like kind of

a mellow and a desk you learn and wouldn't or right right yeah there's a

inspiration on us just the the possibilities that they you know kind of

unlocked through their their albums and their shows and just the interest

in vintage keyboards and vintage sounds and equipment and all that like that was

built into the mix there so yeah that's pretty cool I'm glad to hear well let's

get back to live music in the layer with grand marlos lake waves trio

presented by the Aaron Weber group the next song that you have for us tonight

is called punches fly over prom princess tell us about this royal induced braw

well the we were at at at at separate more or less at practice earlier in the

year and I was combing through was supposed to be like you know synthwave

vapor wave experimental locked around a kind of artwork I found a few people on

Instagram was trying to find you know some of their some of the material they

were quoting like artists was anesthetically and just kind of stumbled upon it

but this photo came up I don't even remember what I had in the search bar

was basically like throwing punches at prom more or less and then you know I

got what I asked for in the search bar because like one of the headlines that

came up was like punches fly over prom princess and then I looked at you know

the date on it it was like Cincinnati Ohio October 81 I'm like this kind of

takes me somewhere like and we could kind of fit the bill on this and like

combing through that we track right to tape and practice a lot just to make

sure we capture or remember you know come back to things and that was just one

of those things where it was just pretty fully composed as a first take thing

and that title just kind of fit it so well because it was it's kind of like the

flaming lips you know they're their song titles are bonkers but it's like you

don't you don't really know how serious to take it until you're to the end

like wow that was that was really cool yeah well Frank Zappel was that was a

guy who had some pretty bakers sounds like that and and then you listen to the

Frank Zappel music and it was you know very intellectual you know and we're maybe

some people at the time where you know parents were like what is that guy but it

was pretty high level music it very similar to this in fact when you guys are

warming up I was like what Frank Zappel is back up band like playing or one for

sure well let's let's hear it this song is punches fly over from princess from

prime prince I can't get it right guys oh here we go this is a grand marlow

and lake waves trio here on maxing radio you're listening to live in the

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Weber learn more at move to Madison dot com rocker wow what a journey so far

wow it's been a quick half an hour too we've only had two songs that's very true

it's very true but this is just some some really good pro jazz rock I don't

even know what to call it it's just a fusion of all different kinds of

things and among the keyboards a drum set and a bass guitar a five string bass

guitar at that Rob you know that last song punches fly over from princess

I could see I absolutely sit back you'll listen to the tune you absolutely make

the connection your head you can well let's get back to grand marlow here we're

going to talk about your song titles a little more dance party in a deserted

parking lot so far punches fly over prom princess they sound like headlines from

the onion I think you've been mentioned that but tell us about your Zach

gallopheniac in song titles I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that right yeah

I just I just meant like Zach alphanacus gallophenacian

can gallophenacian in that it's just it might just be like a big splatter of a

non-sackwood or like it might not like David burn it might not necessarily like

make sense but it's kind of often right field the kind of like punches in the

face a little bit who is Zach oh Zach alphanacus the actor oh like the the

titles are you know the kind of like an un-in headline territory you know all

right well tell me this what is impressionistic Carter administration mellot

melloticism well that last one was I think like a perfect example because it

could be you know some dance party in October of 1981 it could be right now I

like kind of the ambiguity of what we do like you don't necessarily know what

the the date stamp is on anything or that we're drawing from if it's something

that we're covering but it's still instrumental or whatever I like the being

out kind of out of time or the timelessness or just losing your sense of time

through the music so that's always kind of made sense to me but it's kind of

like you know kind of making fun of ourselves a little bit but also pain

respect to you know like the risks that we're taking with the improvisation

and such well let's get to know your band members and we'll start with

bassist Mason Mamo Aminstal Mason tell us about how you became involved with

music and the story behind the name Mamo Mamo Mamo goes back to when I was a kid

my stepdad was Bob oh I'm not playing by the rules here and my mom was

Mamo and I became Mamo I shunned it for a lot of years and then my buddy Chico

made me kind of wear it with pride and that's that's where that came from well

tell us your backstory how did you become involved in music sure I've always

loved music my uncle is a was one of the string bass players for the mad Eugene

symphony orchestra so I've always kind of gravitated towards bass and I wanted

to play trumpet when I went to middle school middle school in Colorado is

when you could start playing playing instruments in the band and so I I wanted

to play trumpet and the trumpet there the band directors as well we've got

too many trumpet players so I went across the hall to Ms. Wino's class

Wano class and picked up the upright bass nice well that that makes sense

because I can really see you're playing on an upright bass in fact it a lot of

your stuff sounds like it's up for your bass yeah so do you play other

instruments or now is it only bass I do I play currently in a band called

sort of a male I play acoustic guitar lead guitar in that band bluegrass band

and I have a I play a little dobro not much but primarily it's basing guitar

and what other bands do you play with or have you played in the past that we might

know about sure I started playing in Madison with a group called Ghost Town

Council and that was many many moons ago with my buddy Brian Napp and Nate

Penny and Tim Case who's Tim Case is making some amazing music out no

of a player hopefully we can get him down here for this and then

played with them for several years and then took a break for a while and then I

played started playing country teams with my buddy Willie Jones he's in sort

in the mail with me and we did like country cruners

herland fusky and you know like all these old you know old country guys raise

price and stuff like that and then I went and saw fish for the first time in

like 21 years and I bought all these pedals and I bought a new electric bass

and I thought it was time for me to you know kind of move in that direction a little bit

and you're playing this very interesting purple uh purple specter guitar

yes with five strings yes that looks like a special bass it's it's it's it's pretty great I like

it a lot I do have a custom order coming in and it's also a purple bass and I've my families

just like oh yeah I guess you're gonna be the purple you're wearing a purple shirt

you like purple a lot I like I like colors I like purple yeah nice nice very good

well let's get back to live music here in the layer presented by the Aaron Weber group

the next song you have for us uh gram it's called hamburger glor comes out of retirement hamburger

glor has always been my favorite MacDonald land uh character tell us about this song

yeah that was uh I think the inspiration was like coming from a different a few different

sources one was just um kind of doing a quick edit on what we had done uh for a rehearsal they're

like you know tracking right to tape and that's the title that kind of hit me um but we at the time

that we made that there were a lot of memes out with this uh kind of like hamburger essentially

hamburger comes out of hamburger comes out of retirement and was just it was kind of like a meme

where kind of like in New York where they do like these these public stunts and mass like

everyone stomps their right foot at the same time at the bus station and freaks you out or like

that kind of thing and I we were seeing a lot of that and it just kind of hit the imagistic note

or whatever as as that came out of us but yeah kind of like this darker funk vibe like he was

kind of coming out of wherever you know he had been for I don't know like unemployment whatever

nobody knows but like no one probably wasn't in jail probably at all and I think the other

thing was uh I'm at TV they had a thing called clops where they they rift on cops but it was all

claymation and it was like you know the planners peanut we've got arrested um the California

raisin was a wino that got pulled over as I thought it was brilliant and hilarious but uh yeah

that was another like secondary source I guess well let's uh here right now this is grand marlow

and hamburger glared comes out of retirement you're listening to live in the air on maxing

radio

The Graham Marrow Lake Wave Trio on Max Inc. Radio's live in the

later brought you by the Aaron Webber Group, powered by first Webber, learned

more at move to Madison dot com. All right, we are back that. That was

pretty amazing. It was wasn't it? I could see the hamburger there, man.

Yeah, absolutely. I still don't know why you retired. I still don't, I don't.

Uh, and, and, and just the use to all the equipment is, is incredible.

Graham, will you ever sing? Will there ever be there to your music?

Um, it's something I would like to venture into a little bit, because oftentimes it's just like

me and my car, you know, like a, a few dozen songs that I know I can hit the range over whatever

but not really doing anything with songs on the radio. Well, yeah, but, um, or you're on.

I've just always kind of worked on the more instrumental side of things over the years,

dabbling in film scoring, um, extra tonality, whether it was like, you know, uh, uh,

someone with a gujang, like a 21 string harp tuned in all whole tones that was on campus

that year, uh, back in the day or something. You know, I was like, um, those kinds of like

sonic experiments, but, um, I'm sorry, what was the, well, will you ever sing?

Will you ever get a singer or? Well, I think the only reason I haven't, um, really

exercised the muscle a whole lot over the years. Yeah. Like just living in an apartment buildings

and that over there, not having like a studio to work on that piece, specifically.

Like after a few minutes, no matter how good you are, you'll, you'll start to hear while

punching that fine. So like, that was kind of like the end of that project, I guess, um, in some ways,

but, um, I don't know, I guess my gifts were more instrumental. I was always around people that

had such a range, vocally and did it like so much better than I could, um, picture myself doing

that, I guess it's just kind of, you know, fulfilled that role, um, more than others over the year.

As an instrument. No, I saw you do wordless covers. What does that mean? I kind of know, but tell

me about your wordless covers. I was always really attracted to like, uh, Helmiles Davis would like

take a print song back in the late 80s, early 90s and turn it inside out or just kind of

instrumentalizing, um, of vocal song in a neat way or like just rearranging it in a way where

it was like, okay, now this is a cool instrumental experience. Um, I think like for record labels and

stuff, there was like a market for that that was more traceable, but it is still there. Um,

and I think there's bands out there doing like only, like instrumental rap covers and doing

like alms, uh, doing really well. Like they, they're not necessarily like full jazz players,

but like they can do jazz type stuff and it really kind of works. It just like to sit on a group

like that, but um, yeah, um, as far as our particular group that I don't know about like singing,

possibly, um, I've been kind of flirting with that for a while, I guess.

Well, we'll be waiting for it. Or you might get a singer. Do you ever considered that's another

thing I was going to mention is like, um, some vocalists have cycled through our social circle

and stuff that have expressed interest. So I think it's just a matter of like finding

couple studio days and trying some stuff on that works. Um, or just cycling through some ideas

and lining on something, but I don't know that it would involve that much more than that, but

then we have to think about like, you know, the live element is that could be part of that or whatever,

you know, so I think it'd be fun to think I'm open to it. Yeah. Well, let's give the drummer some,

uh, Will Bailey. You are also an audio engineer, a record producer. Tell us your backstory.

How did you get involved in music? Well, I've always been playing, I've always been playing since

fifth grade, signed up for band class because I could do study hall or band class.

And, uh, well, they wanted me to play the big, huge bass drum, like the concert bass drum.

Oh, yeah. And so I was totally into that. I can make a ruckus in school.

That's funny. Yeah, I can like,

hit an object in school and be loud and like, not being trouble. Signed me up. So I did that.

And, uh, yeah, you know, that was my musical foundation I learned.

And, you know, a little bit a lot from that. And then in high school, I did a jazz band and I played in

like punk bands. That was my thing when I was in high school. Like, you know, really was into like

playing as fast and as complicated as I possibly could. And then I kind of went big and I kind of

went the other way. And I was like, well, what if I don't do that? What if I learn like all the

other styles of music? So I kind of went down the rabbit hole of like, how many different ways of

drumming are there? And how many can I be proficient at? So I went kind of insane learning Latin

music, African music, um, you know, all the stuff that interests me now. And it's been a great

journey playing with a lot of people since then. So did you play in the bottom? How many are there?

No, yeah. Uh, so the thing about drumming is that it's a limitless journey. Uh, you can never

refine or play every drum beat. And everywhere you go in the world, everyone you meet,

that's a drummer will play differently. And every two drummers will play the same beat

differently. You can, you can write it down on a piece of paper and say, this is the drum beat,

hand it to people and hand that to two different drummers. They'll interpret it and have a field

that's completely their own. And that's kind of, that's kind of amazing. I like that about it.

That drives audio engineers and record producers crazy, doesn't it? No, no, because as long as it's

good, as long as it sounds good, it's good. That's the, that's the, that's the record. That's

the engineer kind of saying that you went to MMI, which was just kind of now defined. Tell us

about going to school there. Yeah, that was great. So, um, well, my parents were a potter. So I

like grew up being a potter. I did pottery. And I loved that. But I was more interested in like

the band that I was in. And so I like bought like a cheap interface to record our band and like

had a couple cheap mics. But I didn't know what I was doing. So I kind of tried to plug it in

and I tried to get it to work. And I was thinking, this is way over my head. I don't know how to do

any of this. So I looked into, you know, schools and stuff. And I said, okay, you know, I'm interested

in this. I'm all in. Let's go learn about it. And then I got an audio engineering degree. And then

yeah, I learned from some great people there. That was, it was a great school. It's sad that it's

closed down now. Madison Media Institute. Boy, a lot of people came out of there that are

right here in the Madison music scene. I know that for sure. You said your parents were in a pottery.

But did you grow up with the potters we had at home and a killer? Yeah. Yeah. They had a shop in

Lake Geneva. And they learned, um, they lived in like a pottery village in France. Uh,

wow. Or they moved to America and they like learned from like pottery masters or whatever.

So it's kind of insane. Like I grew up, uh, kind of working in the shop and kind of being an

apprentice and like getting my pottery skills. I'm still also interested in that. I'm continuing to

do it. Maybe I'll have a pottery website as well soon coming up. Uh, so get your music on your

pottery too for one. Yeah, right. Tell us, uh, tell us something about pottery that, you know, we

probably don't know. Um, something you don't know about pottery. Yeah. I mean, what's like the,

the secret life of a pottery person? Um, you like playing in mud?

It really has to cool down. You can't just take it and you know, right off. Really, you told,

you told me about how the history of the humanity can be traced to pottery. That's that's a,

that's a cool story. So yeah. Uh, you kind of put me on this spot with that one. But,

no, I was telling, I was telling, uh, I was telling Mason about how, um,

the study of like the movement of peoples and ancient civilizations and migrant migrations

of populations, the archeological record can a lot of times only be found with the pottery

that they left behind because there's not like DNA evidence left. There's only bones and like,

a lot of the stuff had been smashed or broken. But if the pottery is in like an enclosed

space that's like not been messed with, uh, it survives. And it never kind of breaks down. Maybe

that's only you don't know about pottery. It basically lasts forever. Like it's not kind of like

biodegraded, you know, or whatever. So that's kind of interesting. It's the world's history book. So

yeah, right. You can get a 10,000 year old piece of pottery and it can, it can tell its story,

even if it's broken. Uh, it has a story in it. All right. Well, let's get back to live music in

the layer with Graham Marlow's Lake waves trio presented by the Aaron Weber group. The next song

you have for us tonight, it's called sketches of a bank robbery and getaway drive. Tell us about

this song before you play. Yeah, this was, um, the first one that Will and I had kind of tracked

together as this group more or less. Um, and this was actually more of a duo. It just kind of, um,

gave the, the semblance of there being a bass player in there. And then we just kind of ran

with that and it's worked since. Well, let's get right to it because I see it's 956 already.

You're listening to maxing radio. This is live in the layer. We'll finish this night out,

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You've got somebody with some really tasty stuff in the studio. I do rob a Wade Woods

He's the owner and creator of honey bee cannabis company and they produce infused

Celser drinks from legal cannabis ingredients with bold flavors and fun names and

Wade is also the creator of the fourth annual glass for good glass blowing festival

held at the dive in on cottage Grove Road in Madison on Saturday October 5th and we were just

talking about the weather it looks like it's going to be amazing here in the studio to tell us

about glass for good is Wade Woods Wade welcome back to maxing radio. Hey I appreciate you have

me on how have you been man good man you awesome awesome I mean we were just talking about the weather

next Saturday looks like it's going to be what you said 75 you think right now that's what it's

showing on the 10 day forecast obviously you know you can't always can't always gauge off of

that but you know last year I think we're at like 60 degrees so it was pretty cool yeah me so

yeah I'm really hoping the forecast to hold off because it's looking like it's going to be a

beautiful day to you know have a lot of fun and raise some money for brown paws rescue and wow

well you know Wade I love the honey bee cannabis flavors and the mango the pineapple mango right

now is top in fact you just gave me one there awesome what new flavors are available and where can

I pick your honey bee cannabis products up yeah so the pineapple mangoes the newest flavor we have

it's actually been up for a couple months now it was kind of ended June when that came out and yeah

right now I'm kind of in the in the brainstorming part of you know what flavor is going to come next

you know how do you dream up a new flavor you know obviously you know I like to talk to a lot of

buyers and stuff like that kind of see what trends they're seeing with different flavors of cocktails

maybe just what flavoring obviously I I'm still wanting to try to keep everything with you know

organic juice you know not adding any sweeteners and sugars to it so yeah sometimes things work out

and sometimes they don't you know but you know I'm hoping to hopefully have another flavor you know

here maybe maybe around the holidays this year you know that's what I've been really impressed by

you don't get like because it would be super simple to just dump a bunch of sugar in there right

and it doesn't then it's amazing how great it tastes I was reading the back label of course

because I was a little curious and there isn't the sugar isn't in there so it's really amazing

yeah yeah the pineapple mango obviously is of the three we also have the ginger lime out there

and the strawberry lemon pineapple mango is the highest sugar content of the three but it's pineapple

yeah and and this one is also our most fruit forward so for example our ginger lime is only 4%

juice strawberry lemon is at 22% juice but then this pineapple mango is at 42% juice oh that's

what kind of yeah kind of more of the three bomb yeah so a little bit higher calorie count than

the other two but uh but yeah very very happy without turned out and um you know the feedback we've

been getting on it for sure awesome I love to hear it and you said that you can get it at the

Barrymore though uh yeah so Barrymore uh they just brought in the ginger lime on tap um obviously

it just went in there for the black uru show that was there on last day which was an amazing show

and uh you know yeah I I've kind of seen over you know doing blue locks fast up there you know

Claire over the summer you know the music scene there you know there's people that are looking for

these types of products out there so you know obviously I'm a huge music fan so it's like you

know getting into these type of venues is where I would you know I want to get where you want to be in

yeah yep well glass for good uh we'll talk more about the event in just a moment but I want

to talk about the why a glass for good benefits the bron pause rescue uh tell us about your

inspiration to create the festival and and why it benefits bron pause rescue yeah so um you know

obviously last time we I was on and we talked you know it's like I I love giving back to the

community and stuff yeah creating events that are unique to the to the community which I think

this one is you know not a not a whole lot of people get to see live glass blowers and no and see

the art behind it you know it's like it's cool yeah most people kind of feel like they're just

making pipes and all that you know and and the cool thing is a lot of a lot of the glass blowers it'll

be there we have over a dozen that'll be be there on Saturday you know a lot of them are getting

into cups you know just drinking cups whether it's coffee or you know stuff like that so it's not just

drug paraphernalia like some people like to say right right after you watch a make a wine

goblet or something you like do not drop that yep you know what I mean like it is it doesn't it's

not like they do it in five minutes or something like that it's crazy yeah so and then yeah um the

last the first three years you know we we donated to day and county main society which still is deer

to my heart you know but this year we just thought we'd change it up a little bit you know brown

pauses uh they are a um hundred percent volunteer um foster based rescue kind of out here in the

Madison area most of their dogs are fostered in the Madison are surrounding areas so we just

thought we kind of spread it around this time and you know brown pauses uh you know the great

organization so you know we're we're gonna switch it up and try to make some money for them next week

that's awesome I love the great cause and I love you know helping out dogs they every dog needs his

day right yeah yep uh glass for good it features local glass blowers like fat pinky laying or

laying or glass and many others tell us about uniting local glass blowers for a day I mean how does

that happen yeah you know um obviously uh ignite glass and gifts my good friends over there you

know they're gonna be the main sponsor of this right when you're glad yep yep Eric and Amy they're

amazing people over there and then kind of through them there's another group here in Madison

called i and i so they're based out of uh kind of right on the east side McFarland area so this

it's kind of it's a studio where you know pretty much all these artists are working out of so it's

kind of a really cool thing and you know I just I met I met a lot of these glass artists early on

and you know built a relationship with them and and again you know I I didn't understand the art

behind this so once I was able to kind of see what they were doing it was just like I wanted I

wanted a way to show their talent and bring it to the public you know so let you know after the

event last year you know it was really cool to get the feedback we got you know so many messages of

we've never seen anything like this in Madison you know like being able to see these guys

do their craft out in public you know well also raising money for good causes I know I love seeing

you know glass blowing on YouTube yeah I mean there's a lot a lot of like reels out there you can

watch this crazy stuff yep seeing it live yeah a little different huh yeah it's it's it's a really

good time and you know and I I thank all these glass artists so much because you know they're just

they're volunteering their time to come out too you know and yeah pretty much most of them

pretty much every artist will have a giveaway that we put into essentially how we do it it's

five dollars a ticket six for 20 you just write your name you put it in the bucket you want to win

so you know some of these glass artists are very well known so you could spend five dollars and

win a seven hundred dollar piece of glass yeah that's cool um it again it's it's cool and just seeing

the different walks of life from last year you know it's like I think last year there might have

been a badger game going on so once that ended a lot of people from downtown just showed up not knowing

what was going to be happening right yeah man we're super stoked about it they're just like this is

so cool you know we never never thought we're going to walk into this today so now there is also

music food trucks and uh drinks at glass for good and it's held at the dive in on cottage

Grove Road in Madison give us a preview of the food the drink the music um what will we find at

glass for food next Saturday it starts at noon right yep so it's going to start at noon um I know

our friends at since city smash will be there around one um there's smash burgers yep smash

burger food trucks so kind of a kind of a cool thing those two so since city smash and then patties

patties um two two Madison's in my opinion probably most well known and best smash burger food

cards and Madison so um they have this whole idea that you know they wanted to do this squash

the beef which I thought was just amazing branding for two smash burger trucks to you know get

together and do this so that'll kind of go on a little later I know patties has a little event

they got to be at earlier in the day so I think they're planning to show up around four so you

know they're gonna they're gonna kind of do their thing later on in the day but there will be

you know since city will be there throughout the full day um we have DJ Tri-Comb who uh he's kind

of around Madison forever you know and just love the vibe that he brings so he'll be he'll be

spinning tunes all day and then obviously we'll have you know full bar inside um there'll be some

honeybee products on hand we also have a couple local vendors that'll be there as well so um yeah

we're looking forward to it I think it's gonna be a a great day you know last year we had a great

turnout so hoping this year you know if you're if you're not up to anything next Saturday uh

swim by the dive in and you know check out some last live glass blowing and you know have some fun

well glass glass for good is presented by honeybee cannabis company and ignite glass and gifts

where can we find out more online um so right now I would say you know instagram and that we have

some stuff I actually probably should have did this a little sooner I plan to plan to create a

Facebook event probably tonight but if you follow you know either ignite you know I know a lot

of glass artists where we'll probably do pretty hard push this week of just kind of getting out

on socials and then um you know a Facebook event page to come and uh wait thank you so much

for coming down to the studio to talk about glass for good and helping on a great cause like

brown paws rescue we really appreciate it I appreciate you letting me come on and you know

promote the event glass for good it's happening Saturday October 5th at at the dive in on cottage

growth road on Madison and it all starts at noon so that's pretty cool yeah it's gonna be great

whether it's gonna be a lot of fun and watch some really cool glass blowers yep exactly so

very cool thank you so much we have local music lots of stuff to come yet uh but right now let's

get into a little kyle magna in the monsoons friday october 18th at the red rooster in Madison you

can catch kyle magna in the monsoons right now let's hear a song this is called alive again you're

listening to maxing radio we are local music

shop local eat local listen local this is maxing radio we are local music where is the key there

a four piece alternative metal band out of Madison who writes songs about the paranormal in the

unexplained and have just released their first album synesthesia it's so fitting that they'll

be performing at the man farm motto and music Halloween bash 2024 in Brooklyn Wisconsin on Saturday

October 19th here in the studio to give us a little preview of the Halloween bash and their

new music is guitarist Tyler Quinn and he brought along Josh from man farm motto Josh Tyler

welcome to maxing radio hey thanks for having us yeah thanks for having us and look what key

will be unlocked uh so actually uh what what we got from our name um we we got our name from a little

boy outside of Shakespeare's house over in England um you kept asking where our keys were yeah um

because he didn't have any toys to play with so we kept trying to play with keys so that's

actually where we got the name from there you go wow so yeah just kind of a weird sound vacation

we were on vacation yeah visiting a buddy out there so uh it was it was actually kind of funny

I don't think too many band names uh you know come from Shakespeare's right exactly yeah where is the

key uh tell us the band now what's your backstory yeah so uh Isaac's to gave us and I formed a band

about 10 years ago but just in a basement um right next rockers house oh yeah we were neighbors um

but I remember exactly so we we had a basement band for basically 10 years and then last year

we uh decided to play out so we picked up Jordan Lumen about two weeks before our first show um

he had to learn all the songs real quick but he came on uh for vocals and then after that uh we got

will Jackson on bass around September so we've been doing this for about a year now it's it's

going really well we're playing out quite a bit nice and and notice is where is the key

with the the is capitalized what's what's behind that yeah so uh the little kid that came up with

the name uh he's actually uh his parents are from the Czech Republic always being with a little bit

of an accent also on vacation it's a long story it's a very long story we could do a whole podcast

but yeah he would uh he would accent different he'd be like where is the key where is the key

oh we just got it from that and it's it's kind of a cool in-joke backstory but no you guys know too

that's really funny don't tell anybody rocker oh I won't uh how do we bash 2024

October 19th it's at the mad farm motto in Brooklyn, Wisconsin on highway 14

uh the bash features 18 bands a car and moto show live art exhibits food trucks and costume

contest um my first question is the venue what exactly is mad farm motto Josh you're you're from

mad farm motto what is it yeah so mad farm motto is actually the home of our uh bass player will

it's the farm that he owns um he set up a stage in his barn he has a motocross track set up behind

the house in barn and we're actually there earlier today for um a party he had for his uh company

that he works for um Aaron Weber group yes excuse me uh Aaron Weber group um so there'll be um

plenty of I mean there's 18 bands there's an upstairs there's a downstairs we usually swap between

um heavier uh rock upstairs and more acoustic stuff in the basement of the barn um should be a

real good time where is this like located on just off highway 14 how do you get there yeah so you

just uh head south out of Madison uh towards Oregon keep going and uh it's actually right off of

right off of highway 14 right on the main drag right before the roundabout there so we'll yep we'll

have some signs up uh you'll probably hear a lot of commotion coming from there and there'll be uh

there'll be a bunch of parking spots ready there so the only thing we're missing is a clown so if

you guys know any clowns we can get that too but we'll check the rolodex yeah uh there are too many

bands to read the 18 bands we said but I see the the salis abandons and um Mickey Magnum mason

Meyer uh tell me about the music part of the bash and was any of this outdoors I didn't see if I

yeah so uh it's all indoors uh split between the top floor of the barn where the hay mile was

and the bottom floor um it's a whole mix of music so we're doing uh heavy metal we have some alternative

bands we have some country bands we have some blues bands we really wanted to make it you know

appeal to everybody okay so it's not just metal it's not just metal it's it's a big it's a celebration

of you know local music so we tried to get as many people out there as we could um we do a spring

bash as well this is the second Halloween bash that we've done out there um the spring bash we had

just sort of 400 people out there throughout the day so it was a pretty pretty good show so we

hope to get more people out there this time and you know come get a tattoo eat a taco from the

taco truck you know there's a lot to do out there so hold on a taco truck motorcycles tattoos

yeah cars models right there's oh yeah so tell us about the the car and moto show though

yeah so uh will Jackson the basis uh really got into classic cars over the over the summer you

bought a awesome old hot rod uh he also has a lot of old bikes so we're gonna display those and

we're like well why don't other people get invited to bring their stuff out too so it's cool

we're hoping people come out um bring their cool cars out I have a old fiat convertible that

I'm hoping to get running for that but uh yeah no pressure no pressure you know an extra

couple weeks away exactly um we also had a few motorcycle clubs stop out um the last time that we

had the spring bash so you know we figured we'd add moto in there as well uh just because

we got a good showing from those folks nice nice social like premiere parking for the fancy cars

exactly yeah exactly very cool so that is uh october 19th is that did I see it was BIO it is it is

there is uh you know we can talk to some of the bands some of the bands are getting kegs uh as well

you can talk to them to see what they're doing uh where's the key is doing a five dollar donation

for a cup to the keg and maybe some whiskey and other stuff that we have there um but yeah as BIO

we're keeping it small for right now you know hopefully in the future we can make this is a really

big show you know where we have actual vendors and everything out there but it's just a you know

big party celebration of local music where is the key right songs about paranormal and unexplained

and just released a ten song album synesthesia tell us about your band's music and new album

and about this paranormal and unexplained thing yeah so if you buy the album itself um basically we

have uh little snippets of radio fading in and out throughout the whole album um and there might be

some you know russians talking about uh some things that they're stealing from some scientists

embargo north Dakota you know there might be some uh people talking about uh you know synesthesia

where we got the album name from uh how you can you know see sounds or or you know picture sounds

and do other things we basically uh wanted to make it somewhat of a concept album with a bunch of

little weird things throwing in between um you know you really get it when you listen to full album

but every song has a little sprinkle of something paranormal or or something in that

cool nice operations synesthesia uh where can we find this online

yeah so all the normal streaming places uh we're releasing songs uh one or two at a time right now

but you can buy the album from us directly and get all the songs at once so I think we have

six songs out on uh you know the usual Spotify um youtube music uh apple music all that stuff but

you know call your local radio station ask for these songs too because all the local stations have it

as well nice where is the key thank you so much for coming to the studio tonight to tell us about

your band and the mad moto farm Halloween bash 2024 and Brooklyn Wisconsin on October 19th

how do we find more about the show yeah so if you go to mad farm moto music on facebook you can find

the event there uh you can also follow where is the key on facebook we're posting about it you know

pretty regularly so very cool well right now let's check out a brand new song from where is the key

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