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Welcome back to the second hour of Matt Flynn Direct coming to you, statewide and live
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No subject is off limits and all points of view are welcome.
I'll tell you a couple of facts and the status of this bipartisan negotiation on a border
bill, well, traders in Texas, traders among the Republican governors are trying to reopen
the Civil War by making the same arguments, arguing that the compact, yes, it's called
the Constitution, thank you, between the states and the U.S. government, thank you, has
been broken by the U.S. government, even though the supremacy clause specifically says that
the U.S. government can do what it says it's doing, therefore they can secede and therefore
South Carolina can fire in Fort Sumter, bunch of Johnny Rebs can come North barefoot, screaming
and waving bayonets, and there are Republican governors in the North who go along with them,
these people belong in prison for treason.
Here's what's happening more directly, there's a large convoy of truckers, they call themselves
the Army of God, they're headed for the border, January 29th, well, that would be today,
that would be today, they're going to three locations, Eagle Pass, Texas,
Yuma, Arizona, and San Isidro, California, which have been the sites of migrants coming over.
It's going to be a four-day episode, they call themselves take back our border, take back our border.
Now, they absolutely have a right to go down there, they don't have a right to interfere
with anything that the federal government is doing down there,
but they're being assisted by Greg Abbott, people of that ilk.
Fortunately, Arizona has a Democratic governor, California has a Democratic governor,
but Greg Abbott is the instigator and he has a lot of Republican governors with him.
Here's the status as a key bipartisan Senate agreement that was reached over the weekend,
actually at the end of last week, and they're expecting that it'll be presented to the Senate this
week, hopefully this week, if not beginning of next week. It permits Biden to close the border
and Biden has said he will close the border. Given the rush of migrants, there were over 300,000
in December. There were half of that, not half of 300,000 in the first two weeks, half of the
rate came over, but there's still too many. I do not know about whether there's an agreement on
how and when humanitarian parole can be given. Mike Johnson, the speaker sent a snarky letter
saying that he didn't have the guts to say he's going to tank it because he hasn't seen it,
but he's concerned blah, blah, blah. The Oklahoma Republican Party sanctioned their own
James Langford over the weekend for being on the negotiating committee with Chris Murphy and who
is appointed by Chuck Schumer. For even negotiating with the Democrats, the clowns in Oklahoma,
clowns in Oklahoma, sanctioned Senator James Langford, who's actually kind of a stand-up guy as a
conservative, but he said, you know, our obligation is the Constitution first, not to Donald Trump.
And they said in their resolution that they wouldn't support him for re-election,
if he continued to negotiate with the Democrats at a bipartisan border arrangement.
The original language was that if illegal immigrants exceeded 5,000 a day over a week,
that the border would be closed. That's why they strongly condemned him. I saw an interview with
Langford and I was kind of impressed with the guy and he said, as a result of this, we will have a
border closure. We will not have catch and release anymore. We'll have more immediate deportations.
We will have more money, obviously, for parole agents, but there are going to be fewer people
permitted to stay in the country and there will no longer be catch and release. In other words,
here's the equivalent of a municipal ordinance violation ticket and come back in three months and
they never come back. One of the things that the Oklahoma resolution said about Langford,
amazed me. It said, he's letting illegal immigrants into the country to work.
My reaction to that is, oh really, and these are good folks won't buy in large. There's some
no good Nixon. I'll describe them afterwards, but yeah, they are coming into work. They milk cows
in Wisconsin. They milk about two-thirds of the cows. Two-thirds of the milking in Wisconsin
is done by people coming up from Mexico or Latin America. Went to a while ago, a nephew's
high school graduation Wisconsin rapids and there were a couple of migrant kids graduated. They were
popular. They were happy. They were going to go on and they were going to be, I think, go to college
and they were going to be productive citizens. Yeah, they're going to work. They can work very
hard. They're going to work and meet packing in South Dakota and Nebraska. We'll have these
assembly lines that move quickly and you have to be able to disassemble the chicken and all that.
It's very tough work. Very, very hard work. They can work in foundries. They work in agriculture,
picking crops. They can work in construction. They are going to work and then they or the next
generation will start small businesses, bakeries, restaurants, businesses and then as they
assimilate into our culture and their culture is very similar to ours. Very similar to ours.
They're part of western civilization. Very similar to ours.
This is actually a boon for the United States. The problem with the border
is the people are flying in from the Middle East. They're flying in from Asia. They're flying
in from Africa and sneaking across and they are not in western civilization by and large and
they're not in our culture and some of them intend to do as harm. Some of them hate liberal democracy.
Some of them hate us. They're full of sectarian hatred. There has to be a there has to be a
regulation at the border. You can't have a country without it. This particular bill,
Langford made the point that this is exactly what they wanted in the past, the Republicans.
And what Trump wanted, what Trump wanted, what Trump wanted in 2018 and couldn't get.
That's exactly what this bill does. But Trump moves the goalposts. He says, no,
I want a perfect bill. Okay, what would a perfect bill be?
Shut the border. Okay, Joe Biden held the news conference over the weekend. He said,
I'm going to shut the border. Give me the authority. That's what you wanted in 2018.
Well, probably some other stuff. They don't want Ukraine aid. He is servile to Putin.
I'm going to give you a shocking image. Think of this. You recall how servile Tim Scott was to Donald
Trump. Donald Trump turned him and said, Nikki Haley, I'm pointing you to the Senate. You must
really hate her to humiliate him as an act of sadism. And the servile Tim Scott walked in front
and said, I'm doing it because I love you. Is this if you're saying I love you to a slave owner
or just whip them? That is how Donald Trump acts in the presence of Vladimir Putin.
He is the Tim Scott to Vladimir Putin. We're going to the lines. Andrew Detroit, my friend,
you're first listening to my day, Andrew. Good afternoon, professor. I was mentioning last week,
my biggest belief about the border is women and children, especially the starving women and
children coming across the border. They need to be taken care of. This is migration.
We've got to have empathy for these people. Able-bodied men need to go back and fight for their
country. And that should be on both borders, North and South. Right here in Detroit, we have the
bridge. And I don't know who's coming over that, although I'm not terrified like a Republican,
but still, it should be women and children that, you know, they're fleeing persecution, whatever
old. You would throw it up also in Minnesota. These migrants are going up to milk the cows and
whatever. Well, I got to correct you, Jeff, slightly mad. There's machinery that milks the cows.
So that's, but they aren't going up there to work, but think about the actual work they're doing.
They are mucking out those, those barns and whatever that the cows are doing. And who,
who among us wants to do that job? So we do need these people coming into the country.
I have a good day. Thanks. And I hate to correct you since I've never milked the cow, but somebody
works those machines. I'm not suggesting they sit on a three-legged stool with a corn cub pipe
and try to squirt a cat in the eye at 20 feet. Okay. Yeah, we're a little bit more advanced.
Obviously they're machines, but they have to be cleaned. They have to be put in position.
The animals have to be brought to the machine. Then the barn has to be clean. That's milking the cows
and they work very, very hard. And you're right. You and I are in sync on that one. And obviously,
anybody, the thing is, many people are coming from these, these cultures.
Abbott put razor wire there and a woman and two kids drowned. We're America. We don't put up
with that. We don't take kids away from mothers at the border like Trump did. It has to be humane.
This bill is humane. This bill has got to pass. Okay. Coming up. There's a couple of you in
the line. I see you. Do not go away. I will get to you right away. Get to you right away. Coming up.
Election administrators are under attack and 40% of them may not re-up. We got to talk about that.
Coming up.
Welcome back to Madden Direct. Our lines are open. 844-967-278. Now we're going right to the
line. Stephen of Green Bay, my friend. Thanks for coming. What's your mind, Stephen?
I sent a certain level of frustration in your voice today, Matt. I'm hoping that you
think after the bombing of our space in Jordan. Go ahead.
With that being said, this whole thing about migrants coming across the border and then being
vilified by the right, I guarantee you a really quick way of stopping that is to make the people
on the right that are complaining about those. Do the migrants job and I guarantee you within
a second they won't have a problem with migrants coming over here and working because migrants do
the jobs that we Americans think we're too good to do. Right. Brilliant. 100% agree with you and I'm
going to leave you the funny anecdote and then I'm going to the next caller. Several years ago,
the Texas legislature decided to criminalize at a felony level, employing a migrant. In other
words, right now, technically it's illegal. It's not in force. Joe Madison has made some very good
points about that and some of her calls. And so they put a bill together. They said the initial draft,
you employ a migrant, you're going to go to prison for five years. I raised his hand and they're
pulling code. He says, wait a minute. Our babysitter is illegal. Another guy raised his hand and says,
guy who, uh, most of my lawn is illegal. Another one says, yeah, well, the guy who works on my
ranch is illegal. They amended it and they made it a couple of pages of exceptions. You go to prison,
you hire a legal unless in these occupations, then they went through their caucus and they listed
all the occupations that their guys have been doing this. And then a guy goes, you know, this is kind
of ridiculous. And they didn't put it in. The amount of hypocrisy is beyond belief.
Going back to the line's title, Billy, my friend. Thanks for coming. What's your Monday,
Tater Billy? Hey, Matt, good to talk to you. I want to ask about the use of this term closed
border, open border. It makes it sound like it's the public lottery that you just, uh,
you know, turn the deadbolt or open it up and flip the sign on the door. It seems like a
meaningless term to me. You know, it's not, it's a huge swath of country with, uh, you know,
millions of people passing back and forth between for countless reasons. I just don't understand
the use of that term. I think I've even heard Biden use the word, you know, closed the border.
And it just doesn't make sense to me. It seems like there's got to be a lot more nuance
and how we talk about it. And, you know, I don't expect that from Republicans because they don't
really care to solve it. They just want to, you know, talk about, get people whipped up about it,
but that just doesn't seem to reflect the reality to me.
Yeah, who good point? Well, let me, let me tell you what I think Joe means. First of all,
a lot of people come into this country on, uh, tourist visas or other kinds of visas.
And then they overstay it and stay that happens to fair them out. And that is unlawful.
But a lot of people can hang on and they're not detected. I think what we're talking about is
300 and some of the thousand people came across the border, our southern border, uh, in December.
You can't continue to do that. You got to have some borders.
John Federman, who's the guy that I really like a lot is the, uh,
he's a senator from Pennsylvania, a very good guy. And he finally said, look,
you can't let the population of Pittsburgh walk into this country every month.
You're right that people come and go and all that. Some of them, the ones in my view,
by and large, they come from Mexico and come from South America, fit in very, very nicely in
their hard workers and we need them. Uh, there are people coming in from Asia, coming people from
China, from the Middle East, who either wish us harm or they come to steal, steal IT and all that.
And, uh, you have to have some controls. You can't just let people walk in. So, um,
I think when people talk about closing the border, obviously it's imprecise,
but you have to have some regulations at the border governed by law, passed by Congress.
And that's what this bipartisan bill is for. Thanks for calling Cam. Cam of Nina. Thanks for calling
Cam. What's in your mind today? Um, I've been checking like everywhere that I came on the internet
to see if any of those gods, warlords or whatever the, whatever lifers are going down to the
border to patrol a 10 by 10 area because there's no way they're going to realize how long the
border really is and that it's not feasible for a couple hundred of them to do it with their, um,
Hick guns, but I just, okay, my job is automation and scripting. I am a programmer by nature.
I am also running my own company and I'm developing a video game. And at first it was really neat
thinking I can use stuff like this in the news as like rating material, right?
But I can't put any of this back into my game. I can't put any of this into my story.
It's not going to be believable. It's, it's too on the nose. It's unbelievable. I have to go back
and rewrite some of this stuff because I thought I was going to extremes. These people take it one
step further and do dumb or things. I don't, I don't want to do it. It's frustrating. It's like being
out on the end. I don't get it. By the way, everybody, Cam is a young guy. I like to have him
quality. He has a great perspective. I think he's right. Yeah, a couple of truckers going down
there with their six guns aren't going to do anything. This is a big stick. This is a big, you know,
kind of a, it's a street theater is what it is. Cam, excellent call. Thanks. Cassandra, Madison,
my friend. Thanks for calling Cassandra. What's in your mind today?
Right, Matt. Oh, it's always wonderful to listen to your show. Well, you know what I am
calling about President Biden. And I think he just needs to make a deal with the Republicans
do whatever he can and get this issue off the table for the campaign. So if it's closing the
border, and I believe he has the executive authority to close the border now. And if he does,
I believe he should do it. But before I go, have you seen the recent video clip of migrant
landing on the beaches of San Diego? They're coming by air, foot and sea now. And it is just a hilarious
video. And they are very persistent to get over here. So anyone else, Google, San Diego and migrant
and the video clip is all over by now. Yeah, Cassandra, excellent call as always. Thank you so
much for calling. Yeah, you can say that he is the right to close the border. Trump did that.
Then they took it up to the Supreme Court. In other words, what are the six tarantulas do
to benefit the Republicans or whatever? I don't know. But what Biden is requesting is,
there is bipartisan support for this and he will close the border as minute the minute it is
passed. And Langford of Oklahoma, who's not a liberal by any means, believe me this guy,
thinks it's an excellent deal that the Republicans have wanted for years. So why don't we, why don't we
do it? Why don't we do it and do it in a humane way? Why don't we do it? Coming up a lot of news,
a lot of weather and there's a bipartisan spending bill that I think is going through. But I want to
tell you the nuances coming up.
Welcome back to Math and Direct. Our lines are open. 844-967-2789. Go right to the lines. John
of Boaz, my friend. Thanks for calling. John, what's your mind today?
I, uh, we are the home of the mastodon. We found the bones in 1897 and so that's why the
dripless region was never flattened by a grace glacier. I would like to say today, man, that
we have to remember on that border, our workers are coming in, but 200 years ago,
if you can remember in history, 200 years ago, they were treating the Irish the same way.
They were treating the Italians the same way. The Germans couldn't get a job during both wars.
Now, nowadays, Matt, you have the Latin Kings in MS-13 coming over to the border who are
drug dealers and killers. Look at their tattoos. Back to you.
Yeah, thanks. And you made two. Well, you're, you're, I like history, but you went back to the
mastodons and that was, yeah, that was a good thing. There were no hominids around then that we know
of, but in any event, um, what you're talking about is there are some no good nicks that come across
the border. There's certainly people involved in the drug industry. There's MS-13 or MS-15,
or El Salvador gangs that are vicious and brutal. And the Latin Kings, although some of them
form into those groups here, my experience, I lived in Mexico as a kid for two years. I was seven
and eight years old. My dad was a professor doing research at the National University Library
down there in a grant. So I went in the second and third grade to a, um, a Mexican school for
I won the Sumatagon. And, uh, it was a great experience. Great people and their great workers.
They do come up here and they work very hard. There are some no good nicks. They've got to be
screened out. And one of the things that makes that difficult is when 300 some 1000 just pour
across the border. And that's why it's so important to get this right. You look at tattoos. If they
have tattoos, you don't lend them in. Seriously. There's a case on that. A couple of guys from El Salvador
came with gang tattoos. They threw them out. They brought a lawsuit. They said it's, uh, it's first
amendment. It's art. And the court correctly pointed out you have no first amendment rights
when you're outside of the country and trying to get in none whatsoever. You're no good. Stay out.
And the same is true with drug people. So, uh, this bill will put some order into it. There's no
order into it right now. Thanks a lot for calling. John is always Barbara Madison, my friend.
Thanks for calling Barbara. What's in your mind today? Thanks for taking my call. Um, I have two things.
One fence. They want to seek from the union. They need to remember that when there's a hurricane.
And when there's a tornado. And, um, you know, that's federal funds. And perhaps,
you know, we just stopped giving them federal funds. Uh, I would think that will change their
minds very rapidly. A second, no one ever talks about the, the number of people we send back.
I believe we are sending back more people than we have during the Obama administration.
So, um, that's just where, uh, you know, I think Biden has some options here and maybe he should use
some of these because if you take the dollar away, that might change your whole lot of minds.
So that's why I have to say thanks, Ben. Yeah, Barbara, those are some very good comments. Let me
build on them. They're important comments. First of all, with regard to, and you were talking about,
say, storms and tornadoes. First of all, the Constitution doesn't permit them to succeed.
Period. That has to be in force. Secondly, it is appalling that most other Republican governors are
joining with them, including Northern governors, such as in South Dakota and in Iowa. That is
appalling. That is appalling. The third, um, I would say this, that when it comes to, not just
disaster relief, what they want to provide their own defense, really? And really they want
their own army and air force. I think we're going to permit that. Give me a break. You're making
a very, very good point. And when it comes to money, remember, there are states that are net
takers of federal money and net payers. And oddly enough, now, I suspect Texas is a payer because
there's a sophisticated economy, but it's largely the northern states that are the, that are the,
that pay more in federal taxes like Wisconsin does than they get back. You know, we don't have a
space station. We don't have Navy ports. You know, we don't have hardly any infrastructure. We
get some train money and that idiot Walker turns it down. Then we get some Medicaid money that
every state got and he turns that down too. Republicans cannot be trusted with money in my view.
However, um, many of these states, probably not Texas and Florida, but, you know, Alabama,
Mississippi and so forth, are net recipients of money. And yet they complain. They always complain.
And I'm going to give you a, to me, shocking, shocking story that, that reinforces exactly what
you said. There is a Republican Congresswoman named Maria Salazar in Florida. She's very right wing.
She's very nasty, very, very right wing. And she recently posed with blown up checks of money
that was coming back to her district. One of them is for 650 grand for a small, some small business,
but many millions of dollars for her district. So a journalist asked her about the three bills
that resulted in this money. How did you vote on them? Because she'd voted against them all.
The Infrastructure Act, the Chips Act, the vote to fund the government in 2023. And you know,
as she said, she said, Oh, I don't know. I don't remember. I'll have to check with my staff.
The Republican Party, it goes beyond hypocrisy. It's deliberate. And it really is,
they have gotten away with voting against everything, shutting it down, not paying our bills,
and then taking the money and posing with oversized checks or oversized, you know,
allotments of the money that they claim they brought back. And you know, at some point,
do their constituency, do they read the newspaper? Do they read any reputable online news?
But you're absolutely right. That's an excellent, excellent point. And I guess the final thing I
want to leave based on what you were saying is this. This is not something trivial.
They are using the same arguments that South Carolina used in its articles of succession
in 1860 when Abraham Lincoln was elected. It was simply his election before he even took
office. And those days, he didn't get sworn in until March. Now he gets sworn in in January.
So he had that lag from November to March. And just because he came in, he was a man of integrity.
And he had, he wasn't even an extreme bomb throwing abolitionist. He wasn't like John Brown.
He just said, well, you know, you can't house divided itself against itself cannot stand.
And the Declaration of Independence says that men and women were created.
They have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Well, liberty is inconsistent
with slavery. He was a brilliant constitutional scholar because the best constitutional scholars
in 1860 said, wait a minute, the Constitution says slavery is okay. Not in those terms,
basically, but referring to it. And it was ingrained in the Constitution. So how can you say
slavery is not okay? And he said the Declaration of Independence, separate from the Constitution,
says that people are the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And they said that
the Declaration of Independence doesn't have constitutional stature because it's not in the
Constitution. And he said it will be when I'm president. We need people like that. Joe Biden is a
terrific president. And we have to stand fast. So Barbara, any Republican, I mean, unless it's a
Liz Cheney who has come right out and said the good stuff about our democracy, but any Republican
who tap dances and weasels around, they are part of a movement when they were the abolitionist
party in the 1860s are now the party essentially of destroying our government, destroying our
democracy. And we cannot permit that to happen. Now, there is another bipartisan bill that looks
like it does have some chops. And Mike Johnson has gone along with Chuck Schumer announcing it,
which leads me to believe that he thinks he has enough votes to pass it in the house.
Remember, they have the Hashtag rule. They need a majority of the caucus votes to put something
on the floor. Right now, I think they have their down to about, you know, they got rid of George
Santos and other guy in Oklahoma in Ohio left to run a university. This one and that one,
there's some nits and lice that fell along the side. What do they have? Maybe 218 votes to 19.
So they need half of that. They basically need a hundred and ten Republican votes.
Not enough to get it done. Hakeem Jeffries will throw in another 200 and it gets done. That's how it
should work. Now, what this says to me is Mike Johnson is pretty convinced that they won't declare
the chair vacant and yank him over this. And here's the deal. It's a bipartisan funding deal,
spending deal for the rest of 2024. It's a budget, not limping along six weeks at a time,
looks more likely. The deadline is March 1st because beginning to March, the first week in March,
it takes 12 bills to fund the government. And they have to pass the House and the Senate and then
any conference committee to iron out any glitches. And then it has to go to Biden to sign.
I think what's going on is, and I don't know how often I've talked about this,
when you have a party of treason that will vote to shut down a government and not pay our troops
who are being killed in Jordan by drones, Navy SEALs drowning in either as the Red Sea or as the
Gulf of Aden trying to board an arms vote that was going to Yemen from Iran to give them weapons.
And permit me a parenthetical statement. Why don't you blow out of the water? Why do you have to
send SEALs to risk their lives? You probably cause to believe their weapons blow them out of the water.
Well, we don't know who all the crew are. I don't care who all the crew are. They're bringing
missiles to Yemen to launch against our ships. Blow them out of the water. But I digress. Put that
aside for a moment. This is a party that has voted several times to delay and not pay our troops.
For 10 months, the party refused to promote our admirals and generals.
They have a governor of Texas supported by other Republican governors to find our own military,
to find our own president. I ran picks up on this. China picks up on this. Russia picks up on
this. It emboldens them. They know they have a fellow traveler in the Republican party.
They know that Islamic jihad will not be stopped by a Republican party.
They won't promote our officers and they won't pay our troops. They are complicit in treason.
They are treason on the hoof. My question is this, very simple, to Mike Johnson.
Here, because you're a little sharper than some of the rest of them and you know that if you don't
pay our troops, at some point, even the rabble who vote for Marjorie Taylor Green and Greg Abbott
and Matt Gates and that kind of folks, even that rabble may wake up. Even that rabble may wake up.
So therefore pay the troops and yeah, run the government on a slim down basis. That was the deal.
Doesn't take into account inflation. It gives them what they want anyway.
And they continue to injure the United States. This week, they're starting impeachment proceedings
against Mayorkas for doing what the law says he has to do unless that law has changed, which they
won't change. So our troops get killed in Jordan and they're impeaching one of our cabinet members.
It'll never be convicted in the Senate. It requires 67 votes. They're doing this to send a
signal of division. Signal of division, only one other cabinet member has been impeached in the
history of the United States in the 1870s. He lists these grants, Secretary War. Now he'd say
Secretary of Defense and he was acquitted. This is a treason Congress. Okay, coming up.
Stand by. In addition to this bipartisan deal that I've just described, coming up,
there is Carrie Lake is booed at a Republican meeting in Arizona. Carrie Lake, coming up.
Welcome back to Matt Flynn Director. Lines are open. 844-967-2789.
There was a Republican meeting just now. Down in Arizona, Carrie Lake spoke at it.
And the Republican meeting ostensibly was to elect a successor to Jeff DeWitt,
who they're outgoing Republican chairman, who is on a tape recording offering money,
as court as much as she wanted and, quote, to Carrie Lake to not get out of politics for two years
and some very powerful people wanted her out. It was a setup, by the way. She taped the
conversation. She taped others with him. And this was designed to make it look like she's what?
Like Caesar's wife above reproach that somehow she's peering the driven snow and she stood up to this
note. This is orchestrated by her and by Trump. Because the powerful people, she was going around
saying, well, those powerful people are people like Chuck Schumer because they're afraid of me.
Chuck Schumer is desperately hoping that she's the Republican nominee. She lost the last time she
ran. The powerful person who wanted Jeff DeWitt out to make her look like she was a strong person
was Donald Trump. This is so convoluted and so crazy. She decides she wants to speak to the
group. It was a very bad idea in her part because she she was into it up to her eyeballs. So she
gets up to speak. And this is these are the Republican leaders all around Arizona. The equivalent
of what we used to call the Democratic Party when I was chairman of the ad committee, the administrative
committee, the people from every congressional district all over the place. They booed her for a
minute. They booed her for a minute. And the word that her Arizona now is Ruben Galliego is looking
a lot stronger. It's Christian cinema hasn't even filed a notice of intention to run. This
doesn't even started to circulate to get 43,000 signatures. And Carrie Lake is booed by the Republican
party. Unbelievable. Going to the lines. Wiscopal, my friend, you're first. What's your mighty Wiscopal?
I'm going to have no matter the end of the day here. I'm just curious on your thoughts.
Can we refers approaching fast? I got to pick them at. In your estimation, I can't see the
Supreme Court getting involved in our election because they didn't know. They didn't know last time
what your opinion on that. Thanks. You're talking about legislative maps. And I think the present
court for three is going to come up with neutral maps that using the two experts that's going to
realign the state and result in a lot more, a lot of fair races. It could be that the Republicans
will have a slight majority. Right now, the state is 50, 50. In fact, it's slightly more democratic
Republican, some years, but they were very smart. They deliberately said, we're not trying for any
partisan advantage. We want no partisan advantage. I can't believe the US Supreme Court would stay in
at this juncture. The Supreme Court is so unpopular. The six tarantulas are seen as on the
take some of them. And they are all acting unconstitutionally. They do not have constitutional
authority to do what they do. They've destroyed the reputation of the Supreme Court. I don't think
they're going to step in. Thanks a lot for calling. Joe Madison, my friend. Thanks for calling.
Joe, what's in your mind today? Fascinating discussion. And I think that what's going down in
Texas, Governor Abbott and what he claims is, as you say, it's extraordinary and we really are
pushing to a constitutional crisis that people are bent in his way of taking things. As I understand it,
there are two points. He is declaring that the ways of people trying to immigrate into the country
is an invasion. And that he is saying that his state thus has to assert their own control over
this and that they are not going to allow the feds to decide what their response is going to be.
The state is going to say how they're going to respond to this. I think we've been fascinating
about this, Matt, is to imagine how this would work if let's say Canada had decided to invade
the United States. I know it sounds ridiculous, but as I understand it, the Department of Defense
has drawn up responses for how they would deal with it if Canada decided to invade the US. They
just have to do this. They just have to know this is someone a country on our border. So let's imagine
it that every governor that bought in a state that borders Canada comes up with their own response
as to how they deal with an invasion from Canada. Aren't we going to done as a country if that's a
case? If every governor decides how they're going to respond to something as critical as a true
invasion of this country, what's the point of the government if each country in such a dire
situation or state in such a dire situation decides what they're going to do? I mean, Washington
states decides to surrender. Idaho decides to go to the bitter end. What are we talking about?
What's the point of a government? Right? Am I wrong in that? Right. Thanks, Matt.
Well, here's the thing. First of all, believe it or not, this discussion did occur in 1860.
And the people on the other side had the Constitution on their side.
What Abraham Lincoln had was a declaration of independence on his side, his character and resolve
at superior military power. And then the US Supreme Court held that secession was unconstitutional.
That's the end of that. Number one, number two, all these people love being part of the United States
for economic reasons. And they all want their own foreign policy at the border. You can't do it.
That's why you have a Congress. That's why you have a president. And so for the Republican governors
to repeat arguments that were discarded after a civil war in the 1860s is unconscionable.
It's unconscionable for them to knuckle under to Donald Trump, a fascist who is as
subservient of Vladimir Putin as Tim Scott was to him is unconscionable. And all I'll say is this,
it's going to pass the Senate. And if they tried to, you know, okay, unanimous consented or,
you know, filibuster it, there better be nine Republicans who go along to stop that.
They're next to go to the House. And here's the dirty secret. You can have a discharge
petition. You can have resolutions and all that. But it may require two thirds of the vote.
Hacking Jeffries can put up 213 votes to require another 70 or 80. And they are available.
300 to 350 congressmen are saying and do this stuff all the time. But it would require
that Mike Johnson jeopardize his speakership because of the one person being able to vacate the chair.
And Hacking Jeffries has got to sit with him and say, we'll give you the votes you need.
That's got to happen. That has got to happen to save Ukraine, get weapons to Israel, humanitarian aid,
and to reinforce the border. Okay, coming up another great show that was having with Diamond
crew. This is a really great session. Great show. Great callers as always.
Matt Flynn direct. We back same time, same place tomorrow. I'm signing off for today.
