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Let's talk about Ukraine and I'll tell you what, some very, very good developments.
I want to tell you about an odd source of support for Ukraine weapons coming out of the Republican
party.
Here's where it is.
Ukraine, using the advanced weapons that Biden has provided to them, hit the Kremlin
port of Sevastopol, which is a major port for the rescues in the Black Sea, and they
really did a job.
They also hit in St. Petersburg, which is hometown of Putin, way the heck away from Ukraine,
they hit an oil depot.
Before I get into this, I see the lines, I'm going to take a caller and then get back into
it.
Dynamo Dave of Duluth, my friend, thanks for calling Dynamo Dave, what's in your mind
today?
Thank you for taking my call, Matt, a couple of questions, what if, let's just say, somehow
Nikki Haley gets the Republican nomination, and these polls turn out, because she's a younger
generation, we got the Gen-Z years, we helped stop in the red wave, you know, back in
the last election.
That's great.
You think it's possible that Biden would then have his men of Johnson moment and say,
Oh, I'm better, step aside, because he's not looking good, it could be a landslide
at a different way.
And I was just wondering, you know, maybe the California Newsome and another may jump into
the race at that point.
What are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, well, Dave, a couple of things, that's not going to happen for a couple of reasons.
One is, Nikki Haley, obviously she's better than Trump, but Nikki Haley has a lot of
it has done so many things, and it has said so many things, and would be a president that
I would not want in most people that I know I wouldn't want.
Second, I'm going to tell you something that may surprise you.
Everybody goes, oh, look at the polls right now, Biden and Trump are tied, but Nikki Haley
has seven or eight points ahead.
I'll make a prediction of Nikki Haley with a nominee, Trump, Biden would beat her even
worse than he's going to be Trump, and he's going to be Trump pretty good.
He beat him by seven million votes last time, popular, and he beat him by, I don't know,
30, 40 or more electoral college votes.
The same thing is going to happen.
Trump does not have a chance.
It's not just his dementia, it's not his crookedness and all these, he is a traitor to the
United States.
He's going to pull us out of NATO.
He's going to cut off Ukraine.
He's going to cut off Taiwan.
He's going to walk away from South Korean Japan and Vietnam and the Philippines and Australia.
He thinks he's a 1930s kind of, let's just draw it up to our shores and the hell whatever
else happens in the world.
You can't do that in the present world economy.
You can't do it.
And I'm not speaking in a partisan way here.
I'm just speaking the truth.
And most Republicans would agree with me.
You can't be an isolationist like that when you the most powerful country in the world,
the wealthiest country in the world.
And the country also with the greatest values in the world is set out in our constitution.
Everybody on the far right and the far left in this country, tax the United States with
impunity because they're not going to be hanged for it.
In all these other countries, they'd be hanged for it.
There is absolutely no inhuman inhuman conduct that happens anywhere outside of the West
that anybody criticizes the culture.
Yeah, they may say it's wrong for them to have done that, but they never criticize the
culture.
The West has a human system of government to process equal protection, freedom of speech,
freedom of religion.
And so we get criticized on the left by everybody who comes into the country in places where
they'd be hanged for even looking crosswise at the head guy and attack us immediately,
squad in the rest of them.
And then on the far right, you have all these pathetic loser types who had no no history,
don't give a damn about this country.
And they attack too.
I'm tired of this.
I'm tired of both of them quite frankly.
And Trump is the leader of the far right doing this, the leader of the far right.
They attack our economy.
Are you kidding me?
The stock market right now keeps setting records.
Unemployment is the lowest since the Vietnam War.
Wages are outpacing inflation by a couple of percent.
People don't know what they're talking about when they say that about the economy.
And I think that Andy Biggs in Arizona, as much as I don't like any of his policies, made
a truthful statement.
He said the Republicans are nothing to run on.
What are they going to run on?
What are they going to do differently from Biden on the economy?
They'll do worse.
They'll do worse.
They'll do what they did last time and cut corporate taxes by whatever and give a bone
to somebody else that they then sunset and it doesn't stay permanent.
That's what they're going to do.
That's all they do.
Or something else and people have alluded to this before.
The biggest chunks of what looks like free money or social security and pension funds.
And in takeovers and everything, the corporate takeovers frequently what happens is that
the acquiring party does whatever it can to get at the pension funds.
Scott Walker came in the most honest, fully funded pension fund in the country is the
Wisconsin fund for public employees.
He initially proposed to take it and turn it over to Wall Street because the private sector.
They charged two percent, very high fees.
They gamble and fortunately, even some Republicans stood up.
If you're a Republican, listen to this good.
The leaders of your party are not what they were a long time ago.
Their objective is to steal money either for themselves or their donors.
They don't know what they're doing.
And you are, if you think that you're going to retire and get a check from social security
or from anything else, if Republicans are in charge, you got another guest coming.
Go on to the lines.
Andrew in order.
Andrew Detroit, my friend.
Thanks for calling.
Andrew.
Hey, Professor, I wanted to bring up a couple of things.
As far as the border goes, I know we've heard this over and over, but it always bears
repeating.
Biden provided a great solution to the border and the Republicans refused to even bring
it up for a vote.
They do not want border fixed.
It is like their abortion thing.
They raise money off of that discussion because their followers are too stupid to understand
what's going on.
Secondly, I'm kind of worried with this war and troubles in the Middle East, especially
with the hooties right now.
I think that is going to interrupt the flow of products around the world and haven't
been.
We end up with the situation that followed COVID with that.
My last point is you being the professor, give us a little education about the stock market
during wartime.
The stock market broke another record this afternoon.
They closed about 30,000.
So, thanks, Professor.
Teach us.
Bye-bye.
All right, Andrew, thanks for calling.
I'll hit a couple of these things.
First of all, in the Middle East, you have the hooties basically shutting down Red Sea
shipping because of risk.
So commercial shippers are shipping around Africa, coming up into the Mediterranean that
way.
It has four or five thousand miles, 20% of the cost.
That can't keep going on.
Iran has just been identified as being behind it.
We knew they were sort of behind it, but now there's evidence that they are directing
it.
Then you have Iran and Pakistan sending missiles into each other's countries.
One's the Shiite country, one's the Sunni country.
Then you have Gaza.
You have Hamas, the brutal, sadistic invasion of Israel, where they burned children tied
them together in front of their parents.
They beheaded people.
They generally mutilated 12 and 13-year-old girls and said they keep doing it.
They've got to be destroyed.
Hamas has got to be destroyed.
And then when there's a, some government there afterwards, a Palestinian government, it's
got to be demilitarized and Israel has got to be insured that the security is safe.
If you have satis coming over to do these sexual things, you cannot possibly live next
to that kind of a country.
So that, I would say, I am glad Joe Biden is in charge of this country right now in our
military, not Donald Trump, handling Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Gaza, and Israel.
If you had Donald Trump in there, we would have a war.
Because he would either do nothing or he'd shoot his mouth off.
Thanks for calling.
Going back to the line.
It's Todd or Billy.
My friend.
Thanks for calling.
What's your mind?
Todd or Billy.
Hey, Matt.
It's good to talk to you this afternoon.
You know, I also get frustrated with criticisms of the United States at times and thinking
it can be a bit much.
I also feel like that criticism is what moves us forward.
I mean, Martin Luther King had legitimate criticisms of the status quo and he didn't
necessarily always put them politely.
Frederick Douglass, the women's suffragettes, you can go on and on, you know, the establishment
of gay marriage.
People have criticized the status quo and the laws in this country to great effect in
the past.
So, you know, if there's valid criticism to be had, we should be criticizing our countries
and our country.
And, you know, I do just get really concerned when you paint the squad with the same brush
as the crazy, right-wing Republicans who are lobbying criticisms that have no value and
no merit ever.
I mean, it's just made up crap.
It's another thing to, you know, make criticisms that are that are-
Okay.
Yeah.
Let me respond quickly because we're going to have to break away.
Ilhan Omar is not Martin Luther King and Marjorie Taylor Greene is not a suffragette.
You've got to distinguish between very good constructive criticism and criticism that
hates the United States.
Okay.
Coming up.
We are going to talk about Fannie Willis and we're going to talk about Ukraine coming
up.
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Very unusual support coming from the Republicans on Ukraine.
There are three people who are chairs of the critical committees.
Chairman Mike McCall, the Foreign Affairs Committee in Texas.
Mike Rogers, Chair of the Armed Services Committee.
Mike Turner, Chair of the Select Committee on Intelligence.
All three of them have put on a proposal about Ukraine.
And it's identical, I think, to anything we've talked about on this show, and I welcome
it.
And here's what they said.
They repudiate the pro-Russian Maga Wing of the party, even though I always suspected
these characters were part of the Maga Wing.
And they said this.
Quote, House Republicans believe that President Biden should present a credible plan for
arming Ukraine with the weapons it needs to win as soon as possible.
Then they go on to say, Ukraine needs longest-range ATAC-MS, those are the ones that go hundred
and some of them miles.
Not just 90 miles or 50 miles.
They need F-16s.
They need sufficient cluster munitions, artillery, air defense, and armor to beat Russians.
We should also tighten sanctions on Putin and transfer the $300 billion that's frozen
in Western banks to Ukraine.
End quote.
That is a proposal that just came out of Mike McCaule, Mike Rogers, and Mike Turner,
the three mics, Chair's respectively the Foreign Affairs Committee, the Armed Services
Committee, and the Select Committee on Intelligence.
That is terrific.
In and of course, they take a dig at Biden.
They go, Biden has been too slow in turning some of this stuff over.
Well, guys, why do you think he was slow?
Because initially, France and Germany wouldn't go along with it and would have busted the
NATO alliance.
And then when he persuaded them to go along with it, he got stabbed in the back by your party
by Donald Trump in particular, and all of his lackeys and accolades.
So I'm glad to see you guys do it.
I'll tell you what, get to Mike Johnson and make sure this goes in the bill.
And let me tell you something else.
And Andrew of Detroit made a good point.
It's not about the border anymore.
Joe Biden agreed in the deal to provide funding for Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan and the
border since the most stringent, stringent immigration changes at the border that we've
seen in a long time, he gave them virtually everything they wanted.
And Trump has said, don't take it.
And why is that?
Because he wants immigration as an issue.
He wants to see on the evening news, all these migrants roaming around New York and Chicago.
That's what he wants.
He deliberately doing it.
The Republicans are deliberately doing it.
And they are deliberately holding up aid to Ukraine and frankly to Taiwan now because
Trump has been paid by Russia and paid by China.
Trump is on the take.
He's a crook.
You guys understand that?
So next time the three mics, why don't you get together with the Democrats and you put
through, you'll get 100 Republican votes and you'll get 200 Democratic votes.
That's the majority.
So knock off what you're doing and quit making speeches.
We'll go Paul, my friend.
You're on the line.
What's your mind?
Hey, we'll go Paul.
Thanks for taking my call, Matt.
I actually feel sorry for Ukraine.
They were invaded by Russia for no reason at all and people are fighting for their freedom.
So it needs to be funded.
It must be a miserable life for the Ukrainian people to live under a Russian attack.
So I couldn't imagine going through what they are going through.
And you have to fund this.
If not, we'll end up over there with our own people fighting a war against Russia because
who knows what kill and date next.
So that's just my piece today.
Thanks for your show, Matt.
That's excellent.
Right.
And it's only costing us 5% of our defense budget to grind, rush it down and just by sending
more of these missiles and planes that the three mics are talking about.
I think that would do the job.
That would be great.
I want to talk about the Eugene Carol lawsuit Trump is already starting his delay tactics.
His lawyer, this Elena Abba said that she's not feeling well and her baby sitter isn't
feeling well.
They might have COVID.
So the judge asked her did she take a COVID test and she said, yeah, he said, what was
the result?
She said negative.
COVID.
Then a juror said, I might have COVID and called them sick.
So the judge postponed it for a day, which is today, but they're coming back tomorrow.
They're nine jurors and in a civil case, you only need six.
So it doesn't matter that one of them sick, the heck with them.
You know, they're deliberating right away.
But Elena, this, you have to understand something.
This is what is going to go on in all the cases.
The lawyers will claim me of COVID.
Then they won't lie.
They'll say, I didn't test right.
But I feel like I have COVID and they're going to pull this with that clown down in Marlago.
I mean, Mercedes Cannon.
She's already slowballing the case on purpose to put it past the election.
So the Trump gets in.
He can tell the attorney general to drop the case.
And they'll tell the attorney general to drop the case in front of Tonya Chetkin.
The one in front of Kaplan, the Eugene Carroll case president has no power over that because
of civil lawsuit.
But that's for just defamation.
And he went ahead and he posted 42 defamatory things just in the last couple of days about
Eugene Carroll.
He is recalcitrant.
He is unmanageable at all in any human fashion.
Somebody is saying manage him in some other fashion, but he won't respect anything.
No judge, no prosecutor.
He will insult inside violence.
Then they asked Eugene Carroll who claims she doesn't feel well.
Nevertheless, it felt well enough to say, would you postpone the trial and Trump's testimony
to Wednesday so he can go to the New Hampshire primary tomorrow Tuesday?
Judge said, I'll take it under advisement.
If this juror says that they have COVID, then he told all the rest of the jury to take
COVID test.
So that's what they're doing today.
But a juror, and I don't know it's the case with this one, but a juror they wanted to
help Trump could just say, I have COVID.
People just say, I have COVID, what the hell?
Or they could deliberately hang out with somebody who was COVID.
You cannot believe the degree of this simulation, the degree of sneaking this, the Trump and
his lawyers are injecting in this thing.
Right now Judge Kaplan said, okay, we're going to take a day off, but you will be back tomorrow.
At some point, what he's going to have to say to Trump is this, you've got to retain
about six lawyers.
I know you're going to lie and say three of them are sick the day of the trial, but it
would take a lot of guts to say all six or six.
Now I've never heard of a judge having to do this, ever lawyers are governed by the rules
of professional conduct.
They're not supposed to do this, but they are doing it.
So stand by and see if Alina Habba says, well, I still think I have COVID, even though
I test negative, well, then the hell with you, get off the case, your several lawyers
have that other clown, have that other clown, okay, coming up, coming up, you've heard
a lot about funny Willis and this business of the romance with the other prosecutor,
but we're going to dig deep in that after news, weather, and a brief step away coming
up.
Welcome back to my friend director, lines are open, eight, four, four, nine, six, seven,
eight, nine, go right to the lines, I'll take you in order, do not hang up.
Joe, what matters to my friend, you're first, what's your mind, Joe?
You have been talking in the previous hour about Trump and his, it's very obvious impairment
that's occurring in terms of his ability to name names properly and to name where he
is and who's involved in what war, I mean, it's concerning that you can't be on track
with these things, extremely concerning, but I think what's even more concerning that
is the forces that are underneath Trump, he is not by himself doing this, there is, I've
been doing a little more research in the project 2025, holy macro people, this is, it's
been going for years, there are over 80 conservative groups who have signed on to this, 40 of
those conservative groups have received dark money from the Leonard Leo faction, which
is the guy who was behind Justice Thomas in some of his getting him in place.
And I think part of what is happening with all of this is that you've got Trump sort
of flailing away at the top, but you have people below him who are very organized, they've
been working to put people in place so that they literally are planning for purging some
50,000 federal workers, you know, within the first weeks of the new Trump administration,
firing them on mass and putting in place their people.
Now there are people who have a very right-wing agenda, there are people who are a big proponents
of Christian nationalism and, you know, guy helps the rest of us if we don't tell the
line.
But I think it's even more acute than that.
There was a reading article that was from NBCNews.com, it was from the 17th of November, 2023.
And within a date they talked to, I found this amazing, a former Trump campaign advisor.
And he said about Trump at this point, quote, he's taking names.
He said about Trump, there are private conversations with other people that we share that if we are
not 100 percent bound to Trump, saying the right things, fighting for him or denouncing
his enemies, there are going to be consequences for you and your family and your professional
status.
I mean, it's one thing that he's going after, saying he's going to sick, you know, prosecutors
after Joe Biden and his entire family, but these are his people he's talking about going
after, if they are not, you know, complete loyalist to everything he wants to do.
So if you have Trump in there, with this kind of apparatus with him, this project 2025,
I mean, we are facing some pretty heavy headwinds, I think, and it's, I don't know, I'd be
interested to hear your reaction to this.
Thanks a lot, man.
Appreciate it.
Yeah, great call.
And I'll tell you, you've done some very good research.
Project 2025, and the reference is this, the elections in November of 24, but the new
president, and it won't be new, it'll be Joe Biden.
But if it were Trump, they get sworn in January, 2020, 2025.
So that's why the reference to 2025.
And this is this concept have been around, but Joe has set it out in fairly chilling detail.
And it merits a good deal of discussion on the show.
And so let me tell you one of the things that she alluded to.
Trump has said that he will get rid of the independent civil service and make it essentially
appointed partisan the way Scott Walker did it.
And when you do that, you not only lose on efficiency because the best people who were
in there did it on merit, you know, they took exams or they proved themselves on merit,
and you're putting in loyalists.
That's number one.
And so what Joe just described is very similar fact chillingly similar to the way government
was running.
So it's just.
And.
It's.
And.
It's.
It's.
It's.
It's.
It's.
It's.
It's.
The.
That is true and say to whatever.
And.
If that is the ethos.
People want to drop.
Let's say they like living in Washington DC wherever they are.
Rents are high.
Got to buy groceries.
They got to support their families.
They will fall in line.
They will fall in line.
This is what you're going to get when you vote for Trump.
Now Leonard Leo is also the guy that was behind the Federalist society.
Remember originally and the fellow that left the billion dollars.
Was specifically to influence federal judges.
And if you think that somehow the federal judiciary will stand in his way.
Remember something.
The reason the federal judiciary was lifetime appointments was to insulate them from politics.
But nobody could foresee what if they're selected for politics.
What if you have Eileen Mercedes-Cannon and the fellow in Amarillo, Texas.
And you have the six tarantulas.
Anything they say can't be appealed.
They can only be impeached and convicted.
But they can't be convicted if nobody can get 67 senators against them.
That's the dilemma we're in.
So when you're considering who to vote for.
Trump frankly has a dimension early on set admittedly early on set.
But he does not have mental acuity.
But if you manage to bamboozle everybody in the voting forum.
Or enough people to vote for him.
Joe's point, which is a good one is the paradigm for his administration has already been written down.
It's called the 2025 project.
And it's devastating for our democracy.
Thanks a lot for calling Bob.
And Madison, my friend.
Thank you for calling.
What's your mind today?
Well, I'm thinking those three chairman, you know, pro Ukraine funding and so forth.
You get one more person like Emmett.
They got turned over because he wasn't Trumpy enough.
And he was pro Ukrainian aid.
Among other things.
If you got them together with the Democrats.
You could take out Michael Johnson and put one of them in and have a reasonable Republican speaker of the House to deal with.
I think I and even if you didn't do that.
If you just had the threat against mega Mike.
You would kind of force him to do more reasonable things, I think.
What do you think?
Yeah, I think that's right.
And I think the way I phrase it before, but you just phrase it very well.
Is there are about 300 to 350 congressmen who are in sync on Ukraine.
They're in sync.
Unraid it.
Israel.
They're in sync on Taiwan.
They're in sync on border aid.
They're in sync in sync on a lot of things.
The question is because of these arcane rules.
How does it get to a vote?
And in the Senate, it only takes one senator to put a knife in it under unanimous consent.
And then it only takes more senators than that and not bust a filibuster.
Take 60 senators to bust the filibuster.
But in the house, you think that it should pass.
And yet.
Because they reduce the margin to select a speaker to one member can say that the chair is vacant.
And what's happened is all these chair, this new chair.
It's very afraid he'll be recalled.
And I want to point something out.
Patrick McHenry, who I didn't think much of before, came out with a magnificent statement.
Just now magnificent statement.
And he said.
And he criticized Mike Johnson.
And he said, we have got you can't do it little by little.
He said, instead of the funding going to the first week in March, you had the votes.
You were willing to put it to the floor, put it all the way till the rest of the budget and take your lumps.
And now there aren't going to be any more, but more votes in March than there are right now.
And just do it.
And then if they call the chair vacant, they're going to, they got to go to.
Hakeem Jeffries and say, Hakeem, I need 200 votes out of you.
Or 100 or whatever he needs.
And you're not going to like the chair, me or Rogers or McCall or any of these people, Turner.
But we're good on the things that you care about in foreign policy and on domestic policy.
It is what it is.
It's never going to pass the Senate anyway.
And it's never going to pass Joe Biden.
And Hakeem Jeffries and my judgment has to say, yes, I will do that.
I will do that.
And Mike Johnson is probably not the guy.
I agree with you.
Excellent, excellent comments.
Okay.
There's another issue that has come up, Fannie Willis.
I want to talk to about it.
Do you about it right now?
And the next time you get a Republican throwing shade on her, stand up to him.
And because you should know this, there is a guy named Wade, Nathan Wade, who is one of her chief prosecutors.
She's alleged to have a romantic involvement with them, which is fine.
She is entitled to date whoever she wants.
He has been separated from his wife and is in the middle of a divorce, unrelated to Fannie Willis.
And he can date whoever he wants to.
She hired three lead prosecutors to prosecute this because elected DA can't do it by herself.
He is working.
He's one of them.
The other two are white.
He's African-American.
They are paid $250 an hour.
For those of you who are lawyers know that that is unbelievably cheap for lawyers.
It really is.
It's called low bono, not pro bono, but low bono.
There are most law firms charged more than that for paralegal in these kinds of cases.
The fees that each of them have accrued or whatever work they put in in this case, about $600 grand.
That's a lot of money.
I agree, but at $250 an hour, he's gotten how many criminal pleas?
He's beaten how many motions to dismiss from some of the best lawyers in the country.
He's done a hell of a job.
He's a former judge.
He's a former judge.
Now, here's the deal.
There is absolutely no requirement.
They say, well, he took trips with her.
He was paid $250 an hour, or his firm was.
That is a public service in their part.
That's not a profit-making thing.
They have a lot of overhead.
I was involved in a large law firm for a long time, and I know this.
When he is paid, compensated, when the money goes into a firm, it doesn't go into his pocket.
It goes into the firm, and he gets a share.
It's not really a salary.
He gets whatever percentage he gets.
He can spend it any way he wants.
If he's dating her and they want to go on vacation, they can do it.
Just like you can.
You get paid by your employer.
He doesn't go who you're dating.
Why are you using my money to go on a trip with her?
Hey, it ain't your money.
In this case, he provided services of former judge.
And he won.
He got criminal convictions.
Sidney Powell and these other people.
Chisbro.
Criminal conviction.
That's what he got.
And then he defeated motions to dismiss by Trump and everyone else.
He's very good.
So is the rest of the team.
You don't get to say who he dates.
He doesn't get to say who you date.
Now, it is being presented by Trump's people because Trump had one of the minor defendants
bring this.
It's been presented by Trump's people as something wrong.
It's not wrong at all.
She's single.
He's it.
We're going through divorce.
Been a strange and separated for a while.
And he choose to date somebody.
Let's not get more realistic about this.
Let's not get up on our high horses.
He's working for 250 an hour.
Yeah.
I know it's a lot of money.
He's a lawyer.
And one of the best.
He's excellent.
So the other two, they get 250 an hour.
It's called low bono, not pro bono.
But it's not a profit-making thing.
They've got to pay a firm full of secretaries and everything else.
Associates who don't bring any work at all.
He's done a very good job.
How he uses his income, either on dates or anywhere else.
He can buy a resource if he wants.
He can get a summer of cabins somewhere.
It's none of your business.
It's nobody's business.
Some people have said, well, maybe he should step down because of the appearance of it and Trump will be the dead horse to death.
Okay.
Maybe if that's what he wants to do.
And that's fine.
He does not have to.
I want to make it very, very clear.
He does not have to do that ethically or any other respect.
So stand up for Fanny Willis.
She's one of the best.
She's one of the greats.
Coming up when we get back, Hungary is trying to block ADA Ukraine.
EU has gotten a good work around it.
Coming up.
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Well, the New Hampshire, primary tomorrow,
Trump out of his way, out of his way,
praise Victor Orban, prime minister of Hungary, Victor Orban.
Tucker Carlson has gone over there and broadcast a show out of there.
Tucker, Victor Orban is not just an authoritarian and a fascist.
He's a dangerous individual and he has vetoed.
They're in the EU.
They're not in NATO, but they're in the EU.
He's vetoed.
Well, actually, they are in NATO.
And he vetoed $54 billion in aid going to Ukraine.
$54 billion coming from the EU.
The EU has the system.
NATO does too.
But not everybody in the EU is in NATO and so forth.
But in any of them.
They have the system where there has to be unanimous vote.
Now, you tried doing the matter on 26 or 30 people.
Try governments.
Think about that.
Orban vetoes aid to Ukraine.
Erdogan of Turkey vetoed initially Finland and Sweden coming into NATO.
Because these are member of NATO and not the EU.
Well, here's the deal.
If you think of the history of Hungary doing that, it's mind-boggling to me that he gets elected.
Except he's an authoritarian and I think that he is running what's not quite a democracy.
In 1956, the Russians went into Hungary, brutalized the population, tortured them.
There's a building I've been there.
I've been to Hungary several times.
If you go to Budapest, Budapest is two cities.
Buden past, we call them Budapest.
But one of them, Buda, is on the west side of the Danube.
And it's for all the old historical buildings are not a lot of nightlife, not a lot of action.
Pests is on the eastern part of the Danube.
Tons of nightlife action, restaurants, businesses.
That's where you go if you want to go to Budapest.
The main drags is a building that they've deliberately kept as a museum of torture,
of Hungarians in 1956.
And yet Victor Orobahn has praised Putin in a taxilinsky in Ukraine.
How does he get away with that in a democracy?
And he is blocking aid from all of the EU to Ukraine.
Fortunately, the EU is striking back.
And what I'd suggested is that the EU and NATO,
if they have recalcitrant Hungary and Turkey respectively,
just set up an EU2 or NATO 2.0, NATO 2.0, keep these two clowns out, do your business,
and yet still include them in the other case they're attacked by Russia.
Now, they are doing something like that.
They are meeting, Hungary is meeting on February 1st,
and they are going to pass it.
And not Hungary, I should say, all of the EU, Hungary's invited.
They can come and say, no, they're going to pass it anyway.
And then they're going to say to Hungary, you got a choice.
Get out of our face, or you're going to get stripped of your voting rights.
Now, if Hungary were a powerful country and a wealthy country,
they might think twice about that, but it's not.
Hungary is a recipient of EU money.
Everybody has dues and this, that, and the other thing.
But some of these countries in Eastern Europe benefit much more from the EU than the EU benefits from them.
They're trying to keep a coherent whole to stand up to Russia,
stand up to the countries in the Middle East,
and to stand up ultimately to China.
So, stand by.
February 1st is coming up.
Well, Orbán Cave.
Or will he shoot his mouth off?
And in which case it's going to pass anyway,
but the 54 billion is coming.
And I want to repeat something, the three mics said, and the Republicans.
And we've said it for a long time.
Take the 300 billion that's now in Western banks,
and use it in Ukraine.
You can put it in the fund, and put it, you know,
put it out in segments.
So that if you have recalcitrant congresses and parliaments,
they get the aid they need,
and it's going to take at least 500 billion or maybe more to rebuild it.
That money has to come from Russia.
Russia is what's called a tort-feaser.
In other words, they're the ones that committed the tort.
In this case, an intentional tort,
in this case, genocide and sadism,
and destruction of another country and put it in rubble,
they're going to pay for it.
And we have the money for them to pay for it,
and it's not their money anymore.
And they claim that they're going to confiscate Western assets.
Good luck.
McDonald's and the rest of them already got out,
and they have this sad kind of, you know,
a junior varsity type, McDonald's, they call,
you know, McDowellite or something,
and you wouldn't want to eat their meat,
because Putin, since he runs everything and takes a slice,
they don't have safety standards,
and they don't have a lot of other stuff.
Well, we've got to get going on this,
and Hungry Trump praised Victor Orban
this weekend in New Hampshire.
Now, why did he do that?
He's been doing it for a while,
but he did it precisely because Victor Orban
is trying to block aid to Ukraine
against Russia, from the EU.
How many times do I have to say this?
Trump is on the take.
Russia pays him.
That is why he loves Putin.
Putin endorsed him.
Putin complains that he's being treated unfairly.
The United States is the Great Dane.
Putin is the Chihuahua.
I do not want a Chihuahua
giving orders to the Great Dane.
Trump is a trader.
Now he's doing the same thing with China.
The Chinese would buy his properties
and overpay for what the market was.
They have come correct with some respect for Trump.
One of their leading banks hired him
for services for 5.8 million,
and that's only in four of the 500 opportunities
he has to take money.
What were the services?
He doesn't say.
He'll say consulting.
Oh, really?
You're taking money from communist China
for consulting?
When you're president of the United States
once and you want to be it again,
use your heads out there.
Some people may not like Biden.
They want to change too bad.
Do not turn it over to a trader and a thief.
Come any end of the show.
Great show.
Great callers as always.
I love the callers and it makes the show.
Really makes the show.
Matt Flynn direct back same time,
same place tomorrow.
Sign off for today.
To be on your own.
For no direction, home.
Like a computer, no.
Like a rainstorm.
You're gonna leave me.
Oh, no.
You're gonna leave me.
You're gonna leave me.
You're gonna leave me.