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Remember, you're not woke if you don't know history. You're not woke unless and until you
know history. Going right to the front lines of history and the making. There's a lot of
it made this morning. I don't mean made right now. There was Skull Dugria Foot. There
was Skull Dugria Foot in the Republican Caucus and the House of Representatives. They were
committee hearings. In part of the hearing, one of the hearings, they were debating whether
to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas, who's the Secretary for Homeland Security, talking about immigration
issues. But this is also the morning when they were discussing the resolution to hold Hunter
Biden in contempt of Congress for allegedly not showing up for a deposition even though
he did. So let's cut through this. Let's cut through the threats and what's going on
and really get to the bottom of it. When it comes to Mayorkas, you've got to look at
the entire picture. They've also voted to pursue an investigation to impeach Joe
Biden himself. They've also threatened Merrick Garland with impeachment if he doesn't prosecute
Hunter Biden. They've also threatened Lloyd Austin with impeachment now because they're concerned
that he didn't immediately disclose his prostate cancer to them. They've also voted to reduce
the pay of Lloyd Austin, the Secretary of Defense to $1 a year. Janet Yellen, the Secretary
Treasury, $1 a year, as well as other Cabinet members. But they're doing as they're using impeachment
to try to dismantle a government, a Democratic government that was elected by the people of
this country in 2020 by a margin of 7 million votes, 81 million to 74 million, and by
well over 30 electoral votes. In a way, it's similar to what Voss originally was trying
to do in this state, which was to impeach Justice Janet for the Seuits, even before she
took the bench to impeach Megan Wolfe, executive director of the Wisconsin Election Commission,
for simply carrying out what the Commission voted for her to do. Wolfe doesn't have any
discretionary authority, and her to say what's hadn't even taken the bench. They back
down in this state largely because I talked to some Republican businessmen who always vote
Republican, but the idea of impeaching a justice who hadn't even taken the bench, hadn't
done any criminal conduct or any conduct, hadn't done anything wrong, was too far. There's
too much. But at the national level, they think they can get away with this sort of thing.
So when it comes to Mallorca's, they and my judgment, the Committee will recommend
that he be impeached. They can only afford to lose two votes. They need 217 votes now
for majority. They can only lose two Republicans. If they lose three Republicans, it won't even
pass the House. If it passes the Senate, it's dead on arrival. It takes 67 senators to
convict somebody and remove them, whether a president, a judge, a cabinet member. That
would mean that all 49 Republicans that have to vote for it, and another 19 or so Democrats
would have to. So it's not going to happen. And they're simply doing it to waste time
and use it as a campaign slogan, as a campaign video, that kind of thing. The same with
Joe Biden. They're not even in my view going to have the guts to submit the Joe Biden impeachment
to the floor, because they, in my judgment, won't even get 217 Republican votes. They're
18 districts that Joe Biden beat Trump in that are represented by Republicans. In my
didn't raise no fools, they do something like that. They're toast in a lot of those districts.
Lloyd Austin's pay has not in fact been reduced to $1 a year. Neither is Janet Yellen's,
or neither is any of the others, because a Schumer, Chuck Schumer simply doesn't let it go to
the floor where it would lose anyway. He can't block an impeachment conviction vote from going
to the floor, but it's dead on arrival anyway. Now, when it comes to Hunter Biden, there was some
fireworks today, and it was kind of funny to watch. Actually, it was good theater. It was good theater.
They start shooting off their mouths about Hunter Biden alleging that he didn't show up for the
deposition. The truth of the matter is he did show up the day of the deposition, but he said,
I want to do it in public. Little known fact, James Comer, the chairman of the Oversight Committee,
previously had said, okay, if he wants to do it in public, we'll do it in public.
Then he weaseled. He reneged, he backtrack said, no, we're not going to do it in public.
Here's the deal. What the Republicans do is they'll take a deposition. They will not make the
transcript available to the Democrats, and then they will take excerpts of a few things and
a few statements, edit it, and release that. That's what they do. So, Hunter Biden said, here I am.
This is the day. This is the time. This is the location. The Capitol outside the hearing room.
Go ahead. Have at it. But that's to be in public.
TV has to be able to see what's going on. That's to be a transcript that everybody can get.
And they go, no, no, no, no. Now you're in consent. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you
about two people who were in really in consent. Gymnasium, gym, GYM Jordan, friend of the wrestling
mat. Scott Perry, far right nut. Scott Perry, one of the architects of the fake electric scheme,
along with Eastman and Chesbro. They were subpoenaed for depositions. They blew it off. They didn't
even show up. They'll do it publicly. They blew it off. And nothing happened yet there that two
of the clowns who were saying that Hunter Biden should be criminally prosecuted for showing up,
but not agreeing to go into the start chamber room where you can hear the whips,
the leather trunchens eating the witnesses. I'm being somewhat facetious, but not that much
because what they will release will be an edited version and will be false. That's what's happening.
Now, what do we do about all this? What do we do about all this? Tell you what Hunter Biden did.
Hunter Biden came in right at the committee room where they were going to vote and talk about
holding him in contempt. That's what they did. He rolls. He sets there.
They were absolutely flabbergasted. Nancy Mace, who's a real piece of work.
She's from South Carolina. She goes arrest them and not apparently unclear on the concept,
unclear on the concept and said nasty things. And his lawyer said, here he is.
Question him right now, but he's going to do it in public. He's not going to be sandbagged by you
guys. We're not going to do it. Well, I'll tell you what, Margie Taylor Green started to shoot
her mouth off. Surprise, surprise. And Hunter Biden just said the heck with it and walked out.
And she says she shouts after him here, coward. You know, let me tell you something. He's the
only one who's not a coward. Remember something. Margie Taylor Green introduced naked photographs,
naked photographs of Hunter Biden in the Congress, naked photographs. And they, he expects that,
uh, or they expect him to, hey, maybe he'll come here and give a secret. How you kidding me?
You kidding me? Somebody like that, naked photographs, yelling coward. And I'm going to sit
behind closed doors and put up with that. No, you're not. You're absolutely not going to do it.
That's what's going on. The lines are filling up and I'm going to go to the lines.
First will be John of Los Angeles, my friend. Thanks for calling John. What's in your mind today?
Hi, I was just thinking about, um, you know, the most effective strategy for
containing Donald Trump. He's obviously committed crimes, but I was wondering, um,
uh, if the state like Colorado keeping him off the ballot is a more effective strategy than
trying to prosecute and turn him into a martyr a little bit.
That's an interesting question, John. And now that goes two ways. Some people have said,
trying to throw him off the ballot makes him a martyr. I don't agree with that. I think if you
break the law, you follow the rules, the rules are in the 14th Amendment paragraph three and
you're subject to it. As far as criminally prosecuting him, I know what you're saying, but the truth
is, but once the evidence comes out, the polls, the vast majority of Republicans say if he's convicted
by a jury, um, I don't want him as president. So I think it depends on the outcome of the trial,
but I think it's the right thing to do. But excellent insight. Thank you, John. Mark from the
sack, my friend, you're next. We have a couple of minutes. What's in your mind today, Mark?
Yeah, it's interesting that one of the reasons we separated from England is to avoid the whole
star chamber kind of thing where you could drive before a secret tribunal and, you know, forced
it, forced to testify. I mean, for goodness sakes, I think some of these Republicans right
can like to go to the old Roman method is where you're being put to the question. You had to be
do it under torture. Otherwise, they figured it wasn't the legitimate question. And I mean,
these, these, these guys, you know, if he is saying I'm willing to testify open and in public
for this. And for Nancy Mace and Marjorie Taylor Green, I just read today that apparently she
has personally fined $12,000 for cheating paid to find her for what her reelection committee paid
to find for her. I mean, that is just the blatant hypocrisy of these people and that the fact that
the media needs to call it out each and every time these people do this kind of thing. And,
and South Carolina, I mean, that doesn't surprise me, you know, South Carolina was the first,
the first of the Confederate States to actually fire on the United States and that, uh,
right. So it's an excellent point you're making. Absolutely an excellent point, Mark. Thanks
as always for calling. Coming up, and you believe that a presidential candidate wouldn't agree
in writing, not to overthrow the government, stand by coming up very quickly.
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Cam of Nina, my friend. Thanks for calling. Cam. What's in your mind today?
Hey, um, I, okay, so I, I don't know what the magnetism is to hunter Biden, um,
just in general on the news. I get that it's like a hot topic for the right, but it does feel
a little weird because I only ever see older folks on the left ever talk about it where younger
people I have seen over and over say, we don't care about hunter Biden, like prosecute him.
And if he did something wrong, do whatever. If he did something wrong, I get that he's trying
to stay from keeping it be private, but it's not our battle to fight for him, but it's just not.
But it's like, it's kind of weird because like I feel like our focus should really be on
um, other things like the whole Trump thing or even at a national level talking about
Ron Johnson's involvement in the fake electric scheme. It just seems like a red herring, you know.
Yeah, Cam, that's a very good insight. And for the benefit of many, many more listeners,
Cam is a very young Democrat and he brings a generational perspective that I think
our party badly needs. And quite frankly, both parties badly need. And I think it's fascinating.
I agree with you, Cam, that if hunter Biden did something, he should be prosecuted.
Let the chips follow their may. I don't care. I'm not trying to protect him. What I'm trying
to say is that people like Nancy Mase of South Carolina and people like Marjorie Taylor,
Green of Georgia, you know, there's a lot of hypocrisy here. Two of their people, Scott Perry
and Jim Jordan blew off subpoenas. Nothing happened. And now they're in a bundle about
uh, Hunter Biden and Hunter Biden at least shows up. I don't care when we're the other. What happens,
but he shows up. He says, I'll speak, but I'd like to speak in public. And uh, you know, these are
the people that have called them all sorts of names. These are congressmen. Congressmen
call them a coward. And then they pull out and apparently what happened was he had some
some sexual uh, involvements and somehow they got photographed and they pull out naked pictures of him.
Well, look, if we subpoenaed Marjorie Taylor, Green and Nancy Mase and it's certainly had naked
pictures of them, you think they're going to end up, they're going to show up in a closed
committee room with us. And we wouldn't do it. Of course, but the, of course, they're not going to do it.
So uh, there's bad feeling. My feeling is these people should go ahead and talk to them. Do
a deposition. What the heck? And I have a little advice from Merrick Garland. Not that he ever took it
before anyway, but they will uh, propose they will submit to him that they uh, that he that he
prosecute under Biden for not showing up for the deposition. Now, let's uh, parse that. First of all,
the Congress has no criminal authority. The Congress can't prosecute anyone. All they can do
is ask the Justice Department to prosecute. That's all they can do. So they're going to do it.
And I know Merrick Garland is not going to want to look like he's playing favorites.
Even though Scott Perry was never prosecuted, neither was Jim Nazism, Jim G. William Jordan
never prosecuted. But here's my advice to Merrick Garland. There's a thing called prosecutorial
discretion. And prosecutor is when they decline to prosecute. Don't always put it in writing,
but you should. Merrick, you should put in a, a declination of prosecutorial discretion
letter for non-prosecution. Say this. Look, his fellow hundred Biden,
the subpoena. It's a legitimate subpoena by the Congress to come to a deposition on a date certain
and a room certain. And he showed up. And he said, I want to have this deposition open to the
public. I'll come into the room for TV cameras. And you can have a pool camera. It's called. I've
done this in court rooms a lot on sensational cases. Everybody in his uncle wants to get in there.
The judge goes, no, I'm going to designate one of you as the pool video. So only one camera gets
in pool video. But you have to agree immediately to share it electronically with all the other
stations, even though you normally wouldn't want to do that. And they go, okay, you have a pool
camera. And you don't have to let hoards of people in there, maybe one or two reporters,
as long as a pool camera, it doesn't matter. You'll see it anyway. And that way,
hundred Biden is protected. And the Congress is protected. So he should say in his declination
letter, as long as hundred Biden is willing to do that, I declined to criminally prosecute
and suggest that the Congress use the remedy that's available to him, which is to absolutely
take his deposition, but have it in public. And that's what he should do. We'll see.
But speaking of these characters, you take Trump. Cam said, and I think Jonathan Los Angeles said,
sounded like a young Democrat, while we more concentrated on Trump, not hundred Biden.
Well, I agree with that. And this blew me away. You saw it. It probably came out a few days ago,
but we didn't have a chance to raise it in prior shows. Illinois, if you're on the ballot,
has a pledge and you're a candidate and you go like this, you sign a pledge that says that
I, the candidate will not advocate for the overthrow of the US government. But God,
you're running for president. You know, is this too much to ask? Is the bar too high?
All we're asking you, Jack, is that you sign a pledge that says you won't advocate for the overthrow
of the US government. But we don't want ISIS running for president. We don't want this one,
and that one, rain for president. No goodness. We want folks. We may agree with them. We may not
agree with them. But I'll say you what? They got to say, I'm not going to overthrow the government.
You know what? Donald Trump wouldn't sign that. Donald Trump wouldn't sign that.
Donald Trump signed it in 2016. Donald Trump signed it in 2020.
He won't sign it now. Remember something. He said he'd be a dictator on day one.
He said, only for a day, Hitler back in 1932 and three said, I'll only dissolve the Reichstag for
three years. I only want a little power right now to overturn the Versailles agreement.
Get us working again. You store peace. And he went on. He murdered, well, he murdered tens of
millions of people, the most evil man in history. Stalin was a close second. But this guy,
this clown, won't even sign a pledge that said he won't advocate the overthrow
of the US government. And you know why? Because he has advocated it. And I'm not just talking
about January 6th, although there is that, or that he ginned up, hang Mike Pence, and let them go
through there, beat up cops, five people killed, mental injuries to cops, 140 of them out on
disability. No, over and above that, he advocated that he is going to have to suspend certain rules,
including the Constitution to accomplish what American needs. That is classic demagoguery. That's
classic authoritarian. It doesn't matter whether you say it's Nazi, whether you say that it's
Mussolini, the fascist, whether you say it's communist, anything. That is classic authoritarian.
Just for a little bit, I got to suspend the Constitution. He flat out said that. He flat out said
that. Well, I'll tell you what, coming up a lot of news, a lot of weather, and guess what happened
to Trump doing closing arguments in the Tisha James' case? Coming up.
Welcome back to Madden Direct. Our lines are open. 844-967-2789. We're going to write to the lines.
Gene, we'll clear my friend. Thanks for calling. Gene, what's in your mind today?
Thank you, man. I wanted to call. Thank you for covering that issue. For young people,
to probably not use this, but for older people like myself, and I watch hearings and things going on,
I've never seen anything like this before in my life. In fact, if they had something on Hunter,
they would have wanted him in front of every camera in the United States of America as a question
because they had it, if they would have had some evidence. So, this is inclandestine. This is
something people need to be aware of that they're trying to pull in our government that this
doesn't go on in our government, and this is something new that we have to watch out for.
In addition to this, I feel real bad for the gentleman in the military who had a procedure done
dealing with prostate cancer. I'm familiar with different men who have been diagnosed,
and as they're getting used to that diagnosis, maybe they don't want to share it right now.
I think that that was private, and them trying to impeach him or go after him on it,
is just outrageous at the second. But if you notice, they're having trouble
funding the military at first. Then they go after not taking care of promotions.
In addition to that, they go after our Homeland Security person and National Security person,
and person that handles finances in our country. These people are hurting our country,
significantly, and they're tearing it down from the inside out and other countries are paying
close attention. People who really care about our country,
they've got to pay attention to this stuff, and we all need to work together to get these people
out of office because they're very, very much a danger. Thank you, Matt. You have a good day.
Appreciate it. Yeah, thank you, Jean. You nailed it excellent, as always.
Just let me parse a few of those things before I go to our topic. With Lloyd Austin,
there are a lot of people, especially when they're facing treatment for prostate cancer.
It is a very private, delicate thing. In retrospect, I do think that he should have at least
privately notified Joe Biden and his deputy, Ms. Hicks. That's something I think that would be
appropriate. And Biden's already talked to him. He's a great Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin,
and this isn't the first time they've attacked him. They voted to cut his pay for
to one buck months ago, months ago. For no reason, he's been doing a great job standing up
to the Russians, standing up to the Chinese. They did that to him. Then the second thing is
then they said, okay, we're not going to promote any officers. And then we go,
oh, it's just Tuberville. Well, no, it isn't just Tuberville. Nine Republicans could have overcome
that they didn't. Then when they finally chickened out on that one, they're still holding
civilian defense department and NSA national security agency department appointments.
These are the civilians who interface with the four stars and the three stars when they're
in combat situations, giving them essential intelligence, essential guidance. They have stuck
in knife in our military over and over and over again. And the truth is that going after Lloyd Austin
because the oppressed state surgery decided to embarrass him publicly is about the lowest of all of it.
Going back to the lines, clear of Sun Prairie, my friend. Thanks for calling clear. What's in
your mind today? Yes, Matt. The situation where Trump was tried before the Senate, you know, twice
impeachment and the legislators are voting as a jury. And yet their jobs are on the line and
they're being threatened by Trump and his base. Is that that jury tampering? How can you expect
someone to be impeached by people whose jobs are on the line? That's just totally wrong for
any kind of a jury of your peers. Yeah, you brought up a very interesting further counter
argument to his idea of immunity unless he's convicted in the Senate. And that one is this. And
I hadn't really thought of it in these terms. But the average jury, first of all, they're insulated
from the lawyers from anybody. They're told not to read newspapers and not to look at TV, not to
look at social media about the case. And the lawyers are forbidden from contacting them.
The lawyers are forbidden from contacting them. And not only that, that would be jury tampering.
And at the end of the case, the lawyers have to ask permission in Wisconsin. Some states,
you can't even do it to debrief the jurors in public in the courtroom. And I've made that
request in several juries and it's been granted in several juries. And you learn a lot as a lawyer.
You say, but the judge is watching. It's in public. They're protected. And you say, how did you come
to that conclusion? And what was the evidence that, you know, I learned a lot for the next case.
But that's very rare. And in some cases, you can't do it, even with the judge's permission
and the jurors consent. But in every state, you're forbidden from contacting them. Well,
here you have a quote, jury, end quote, the Senate, who are threatened by Trump personally.
And by his people, Trump will say that so and so is no good. He's the one who said it as rallies,
you know, beat, beat up these protesters. And I'll pay your legal fees. One of his guards,
one of his bodyguards beat up a guy in New York City who he thought got too close.
Um, Trump is essentially a fascist authoritarian. Let's be just very clear about that. So
when you have an intimidated Senate, some of them, because of physical threats to them and their
family, I told you there was one, I think it was a congressman, because remember, you're impeached
in the in the house. You're convicted in the Senate who had a send a bodyguard with his
his middle school daughter to school, because his family been threatened by Trump.
Well, what happens in the Senate? What kind of jury is that clear? It makes a good point.
That's not a regular jury. These people, some of them think that if they vote to convict Trump,
they'll lose their seat. Others are afraid for their families.
And that's just the long and short of it. So that's an excellent additional argument to say
nothing to the fact that there's nothing in the Constitution that says the president can't be held
liable for crimes committed while he was in office, once he leaves office, and that it does not
depend on impeachment or conviction. Well, I hate to keep mentioning Trump largely because we're
given a oxygen, given a oxygen. I don't want to do that. But there's something did happen today
in Leticia James's case for fraud, never in front of Judge Erdogan, in New York,
Ingarana, I should say, in New York. Trump had notified the court that he wanted to give
part of the closing argument. So the idea would be, and that's happening right, I think tomorrow.
So the way he wanted it was his lawyers to get up and give the legal mumbo drumbo,
then Trump would get up and assign legs in front of the jury, and he gave a political speech.
That's what he wanted. So judging, just so you know, in a civil case, you can do that if you have
the judge's permission. The judge has exclusive authority, and if he doesn't let you do it, you can't
do it. In a criminal case, it's different. In a criminal case, you're permitted to represent
yourself, and there's some defendants who won't take a public defender. The judges will
sometime assign to shadow lawyer who sits behind the rail and whispers to them, and most of these
people are crazy and they say the hell with you and then convict themselves. If Trump wanted to
give a closing statement in the criminal case in Washington, DC, in my view, it's very, very likely
that the judge would have to let him do that, although she would not have to
permit two people to give closing statements. So he couldn't say, okay, my lawyer is going to do
the legal mumbo jumbo, and then I'm going to do the politics. I think she could say, you can do whatever
you want, but there's only one of you speaking, so make up your mind. I said on Todd Albo's show earlier
today, great show, he's a great host, great friend, and I always am honored to be invited on to do
a segment on his show where for a non-lawyer, and even for a lawyer, you've heard the phrase
somebody who represents himself, a lawyer who represents himself as a fool for a client,
and that's very true. You can't sort out your emotions, but if you think you're going to get up
and give a closing argument in any case, it's very similar to a guy taking a booing knife and
trying to take out his appendix without anesthesia. I mean, that's really what it is.
Trump right now, in New York, Latisha James is asking for $370 million from him.
168 of it is just interest that he cheated, banks at it. Now, if he gets up and shoots his mouth off,
he's liable quite frankly, no matter what he says to make things really worse and cement his fate,
but the judges came down and said, no, you can't do it. It's the civil case. I have control.
Not going to let you do it. I think that's the right decision. Go to the lines. Dick of
Madison, my friend, thanks for calling. Dick, what's in your mind today?
Well, I think it's probably the right decision too, but you know, he's going to turn around tomorrow
and ran and rave about it when he leaves the courtroom, but she did him a favor is what she did,
because he would have made a fool of himself like he always did, and he would have just what
you said. He would have dug himself in deeper. In a way, I kind of wish they wouldn't lie to him,
because he still hang himself out the dry. No, you're right. In a sense, they did do him a favor,
because he has lawyers who can do the legal mumbo jumbo, but the truth of the matter is that the
prime of the guy like Trump, you know, a lot of people want to get up in front of a jury and,
you know, there'll be a disaster. He's an accomplished speaker, sort of a seductive speaker,
to some people. And so depending on who's on the jury, I think that he would have to be told,
because lawyers know this, you can't say something that wasn't introduced in evidence. You can't just
say, make up new evidence. If something was introduced in evidence like a document,
you can oppose it, but you can't lie about it and say it was forged or something like that,
even if it hadn't been introduced as evidence in the trial. But he would get up,
and he doesn't give a damn. Remember when CNN, Caitlin Collins early on, CNN thought they were
going to be nonpartisan, and they let everybody do a town hall, and they said ground rules for Trump,
Trump ran roughshod over her. He doesn't care. Now in this one, let me give you a scenario,
which you may not believe, but this could happen. In the closing argument, after the mumbo jumbo,
he gets up, and he starts to walk to the jury box and talk to them, disobeying the judge.
If you or I did that, the judge would say, sit down, and if you didn't, the bailists would grab you.
If he says, sit down, suppose Trump gives him the bird, or let's say he doesn't do that,
he just ignores him. The only remedy, sort of declaring a mistrial and continuing this thing forever,
is to have the sheriff's deputies and the bailiffs seize him. Now the secret service around,
they presumably negotiate with him, and they lead him out of the courtroom.
So this guy is such a narcissist. To what extent does he think that would help him with his base?
To what extent does he think that would help him with his base? If he had a decent sense of shame,
or honor, or frankly, regard for the country, he wouldn't do it, but he has no sense of shame,
he has no sense of honor, and he's not loyal to the country. He's simply not loyal to the country.
So I theorized to one person back when he was debating Biden in 2020. Remember when he stalked,
Hillary, he walked up behind her and stood right behind her. Biden is larger. Biden was an athlete,
but Biden is also three years older than he is. What happens with Trump if he's running against
somebody and he walks up and just punches him? What happens? He should be arrested on TV.
Do not discount any of this. It's far fetched. I understand it's far fetched, but this guy
operates outside of the law. He's a walking crime scene. So I can see him at Engoron's trial,
Latisha James is getting up and talking anyway, having to be arrested. And I think Engoron has
to have taken that into account. Has to have taken that into account.
Coming up, E. Jean Carroll's case goes to the jury on Tuesday and there's certain things
that Donald Trump can't do.
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Well, I'll tell you what, the Engoron Latisha James trial for fraud in New York
is not the only trial Trump is facing. It's not even the only civil trial Trump is facing. It's
facing forced criminal trials, but the other one is the other civil one is E. Jean Carroll,
E. Jean Carroll, suing Donald Trump for defamation, for lying about his sexual assault over.
Remember what I said before, defamation. You've heard a lot of terms. You've heard defamation,
defamation of character, libel, slander. What does it all mean? There's an overriding
tort, it's called defamation. The tort is a non-contractual injury you impose on someone,
the car accident, that kind of thing. libel and slander are the two prongs off of defamation.
libel is written defamation. slander is verbal defamation. There's slight differences in proof
and damages, but basically they're quite similar. This one exception to what I just said,
if you go on TV or radio is verbal and you defame someone that is libel because of the broad
reach of radio and television. And what is defamation? defamation is sane or writing something
that lowers the other person in the esteem of the community.
You could say as a criminal conviction and he doesn't, he has a communicable disease,
he doesn't, that kind of thing. That's defamatory. In the case of E. Jean Carroll
from sexually assaulted her. She said so and he said she was a liar and made fun of her.
Saying someone's a liar is defamatory. In this case, it was libel because he did it on TV.
Now, there already was a trial. He didn't show up. He gave rallies, he gave speeches,
jury came back and nailed them for five million dollars. And they found that he had sexually abused her.
But there was a question that said did he rape her and they, and they, jury said no.
Let me explain all of that. He then goes on CNN, I think it was the Caitlin Collins disastrous
town hall and he against says she's a liar. So she sues him again.
The difference between rape and sexual assault and sexual abuse is really kind of a matter of
terminology. You've heard things mentioned like rape, murder one, first degree murder. These are all
layman terms. Rape is first degree sexual assault, second degree sexual assault, etc., etc.,
murder is first degree intentional homicide, second degree intentional homicide, etc., etc.
What he did was he followed in the redressing room and burgoff goodman with his no one around
threw her up against the wall, put his hand under his skirt into her pants and he penetrated her
with his finger. So the jury apparently felt that as long as he hadn't penetrated her with his
penis, that it wasn't rape. That's false. Any penetration against the will of the woman is
is sexual assault, but they nailed them for the sexual abuse. And that's what this is all about.
Well, the judge came up with two terrific rulings and then I see when the lines do not hang up,
it'll get you right away. Here are the two terrific rulings.
Ruling number one, the access Hollywood tapes can be played. Remember those from the last campaign,
or the 2020 campaign, 2016 campaign, access Hollywood, which says he goes around grabs women
between the legs he uses a naughty word for it and they like it. That's pretty relevant
since that's exactly what Eugene Carroll had happened to her. And the second thing he said,
this is not a do over. All the facts from the previous jury can't be contributed. So Trump can't
get up there and say she's lying and didn't happen. The only issue before this jury is damages.
Trump is frankly in a very, very tough position in this thing because the judge will instruct
them. He did this. How much does he or for it? And the only question is, will he let Trump say,
I've already paid her five million. Yeah, but then you shot your mouth off again. We may not even
let him do that. So he's in very bad shape. Bob Madison, my friend, thanks for calling Bob. What's
in your mind today? Well, I'm thinking isn't it amazing what can happen? Where the presidential
candidates picked their announcement place like Greg and picked Philadelphia, Mississippi,
because the two Jews and the black civil rights worker were killed there. And he's identifying
with the segregationist south, you know, confirming the other strategy of Nixon, which was
muddied by the Wallace thing, kind of put it in the place. And then Valley Forge, sometimes
soldier, the hard winter of Valley Forge is like the hard winter of going through the pandemic
and coming out where we are now and so forth. I think that's a good metaphor in addition to
the democracy thing, you know, for the president to choose. But look at what Trump did. He's
identifying with David Kuresh, a Waco Texas, Ruby Ridge, Waco, the gun nuts and the religious nuts
combined in the form of David Kuresh. And that's what that's what we're getting out of Trump.
So it tells you a lot about the people where they're coming from.
Yeah, you know, that's a very good, that's an interesting insight. It's true that Reagan picked a
location where three great civil rights workers had been murdered. And he did that exactly
to pander to the south. And I'm not sure how successful that wasn't overall simply because
the south has really changed quite a bit. It has been a lot of migration, a lot of companies
have opened and all that. But that's what he did. And it's true that Biden did something, I think,
is terrific, which is he went to Valley Forge. The George Washington was hungered down in that
cold winter. There was absolutely no indication that he could even feed his troops, arm his troops,
some of them deserted, some officers conspired to try to replace him as general. But he knew better.
He kept them in place. And then he attacked. He attacked and he drove the British out.
And that was a good place for Joe Biden to be. But you're right. Waco, Texas, David Corration,
because Trump, quite frankly, is insane. Absolutely insane. Coming up, a lot of news, a lot of weather
and disruption in the Republican ranks over Mike Johnson's deal with Chuck Schumer. Come in.
I won't lie down. No, I won't lie down.