Unbelievable to Me (Hour 2)

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Unbelievable to Me (Hour 2)

Matt Flynn Direct · Wed Jan 3, 2024

We're talking on all political subjects and taking on all colors. This is Matt Flynn

direct with your host Matt Flynn. Welcome back to the second-ever Matt

Flynn direct coming you live statewide on civic media. Our lines are open 844-967-2789. See you in

the lines. I'll get to you in a second. I want to finish up my prior thought. Why does

this presidential preference committee get to meet at all? Because the law in

Wisconsin is that any party that got 10% or more in the last

gubernatorial election can designate which of their candidates in these

upcoming elections should be on the primary ballot and there were only two

parties in Wisconsin that got 10% or more in the last governor ballot and

that was the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Does that mean that

somebody else can't get on the ballot if they want to? Does that mean that Dean

Phillips and Marianne Williamson and I suppose if Tim Scott changes mine and

wanted to get back in could he do it? Yeah they can do it. They can do it by

getting signatures. They don't need any signatures if the presidential selection

committee puts them on the ballot. The problem is that the Republicans change the

law made it very difficult to get the signatures and why is that? Because they

have to get 8,000 signatures from the eight congressional districts 1,000 from

each. 1,000 from each. Now in the old days and even now if you want to run

statewide you only have to get a thousand signatures for sending or

governor even although normally it turned in 2,000 so that it you're covered and

they may have increased that to 2,000 then it's 4,000. But to get 8,000

signatures with 1,000 from each congressional district is a very very tough task

and you'd absolutely need good organization so effectively it kind of

squeezes people out. So what you're going to see on the ballot unless something

happens with these signatures in the spring, April 2nd, April 2nd, the

primary six candidates who are Republicans and Joe Biden are president. The

Democrat going to the lion's dick of Madison my friend. Thanks for calling

dick. What's in your mind today? Well the Supreme Court situation that you know

with should they shouldn't make toss them off. It's strictly in my mind a law

period and yes they shouldn't. Guess who else would agree with it? Trump

himself. In 2016 when he ran against Hillary Clinton there's all kinds of

audio of him during speeches when he's calling her cricket Hillary and all this

ranting and raving saying she's not qualified to be on the ballot because she's

being investigated. Never mind the fact that investigated is a little different

than indicted or being what 91 felony charges but he he constantly said that when

he was out on the stump in 16. So you know show that to the mega groups in his

own words. Make him eat his own words. I mean it's right there for everybody to

see just like the stuff from January 6th. Just go look at the film. Yeah that's a

very very good point because he did do that and in addition what he didn't

disclose dick was he was being investigated too on the Russia connection and

Komi stuck a knife in Hillary. He's supposed to keep his mouth shut because you

don't say something like that in the middle of an election. He did it. Komi by

the way is and was a Republican. He only turned on Trump after he told Trump

about the steel dossier and about the cup of file allegations of the strange

sexual practices that Putin had on video in the hotel room and then Trump got

mad at him. He was a Trump supporter which is why he did that and the thing that

really kills me is you shouldn't have done it with Hillary but he was investigating

Trump at the same time and he didn't disclose that. He betrayed the country. Komi is

no damn good just so you were clear about how I think about him anyway. Okay well

guess what guess what the Homeland Security Committee is going to impeach

Alejandro Mallorca's the the the secretary for Homeland Security and then they're

going to refer it out to the House and it will pass. He will be impeached. Now a couple

of things to keep in mind and right now by the way you know we talked about Mike Johnson

before Mike Johnson right now is down at the border basically causing trouble not to

anything constructive you know what he could do would be to produce a bill that would give

aid to the the border hire more agents pay them well get them the resources they need

give aid to Ukraine aid to Israel and put that through that's what he could do no he isn't doing

that flew down on a private plane and he and a bunch of other Republican Yahoo's are at the

border just posing for pictures you know going Tisk Tisk doing nothing put it in a put it in

an immigration bill put it in with all the poison pills you want just show what you stand for

they don't do that why don't they do that because even going back to 2016 Mitch McConnell

those days it's called Moscow Mitch now he sort of mellowed a little bit I said we don't have

a platform a platform can only get you in trouble people can make fun of it say that's terrible

hold you to it why don't we try not having a platform I was on the Democratic Party platform

committee several times I was on the committee back before I was party chairman a long time ago

and we said we'd argue about things we were very specific and we put in these detail platforms

the Republicans back then in the 70s and 80s put in a kind of a nasty sad little platform

wasn't real specific even back then they understood that if they stood for anything they'd lose

but at least they put something in and call it a platform if you want to read the party platforms

you can get the blue book and it used to be that the legislature would give free copies out

get them in a library you can probably get them online right now and you can see what the Democratic

Republican Party platforms are except by the way the Republican Party does not have a platform

at the national level because they frequently betrayed it frequently whatever they said

looked terrible because it is terrible well right now they are down on the border

posing for pictures saying this is terrible as Biden's fault not lifting a finger not funding

anything shutting down the government shutting down the government now here's how this is going to work

the statement they put out on the impeachment of Alejandro mayorkas is quote we will be conducting

hearings and taking up those articles of impeachment within the coming weeks

makes it sound on the up and up makes it sound like they're doing some work they're not doing

work they're lazy as hell most of them take taking this week off but next January 10

January 10 Wednesday of next week they are going to start these hearings and this is simply

a political show like the Benghazi hearings against Hillary Clinton just to hopefully get some

television and just say this is all Joe Biden and Alejandro mayorkas's fault now when this hearing

these hearings are done it's going to be done pretty quickly there's no doubt in my mind that

they are going to then recommend impeachment articles of impeachment to the entire House this

they have to do the committee can impeach all by itself here are the charges that they're talking

about Alejandro mayorkas is guilty and this is great egregious misconduct and refuse

to enforce the law now wait a minute remember that was Janet Proto say whistle when they're going

to impeach her and then they backed off the chicken doubt she hadn't even done anything and in

Wisconsin you can't impeach somebody and remove them from office unless they committed a criminal

act or fraud in the office she hadn't even taken office so they had a bit of a problem well here with

this character Mike Johnson egregious misconduct is a nose of wax it's whatever it is you have the

statues made out of wax you push us nose inch to the left inch to the right whatever you want

egregious misconduct to be refusal enforce the law there are no border agents who are refusing to

enforce the law none of them none of them they're doing their best with insufficient manpower

insufficient resources and people swarming up it's going to take a change in the law

and that is something that the Republican Party has resisted it's resisted for years now

because they milk this issue they milk the issue so stand by you will see you absolutely will see

in my judgment these hearings starting on the 10th next week and then shortly after that you're

going to see you're going to see meorkas impeached okay it doesn't matter who the home of the

secretary is with the resources he has and the laws and they are in the books there is only so

much that he can do and that's what is going to be an issue and again it's simply well the heck

with funding the government the heck with funding the patrol at the border why don't we instead

put a hold in the senate and defense department in our defense and why don't we in the house

just impeach everybody remember something they already passed a law that said that his salary will

be one dollar a year and Lloyd Austin's will be one dollar a year and a number of the other

cabinet members one dollar a year now why is it that they are not in fact being paid one dollar a

year because that had to be passed in the senate as well Chuck Schumer laughed stuck in the drawer

and if it had gone to Biden he would have vetoed it then it would have taken a two thirds override

and I can picture two thirds of the Congress and the senate saying that Lloyd Austin should get one

dollar a year this is the kind of stuff they do do you understand that they fight for a month

on their speaker they're not conservative enough while they pass no bills they passed

legislation with a lot of discussion to cut the wages of cabinet members who are Democrats to

one dollar a year at least a lot of time it ain't going anywhere it didn't go anywhere

and now with Mallorca some peaching them and they're going to impeach Joe Biden for what so that

they can go into this election and say well it's a horse of peace they impeach our guy we impeach

their guy you know if that makes you uneasy don't vote all of the data shows that when that happens

the Republicans gain because the people who don't vote typically or people would have voted

Democratic and that is the sad situation coming up coming up the fifth circuit court of appeals says

that hospitals don't have to provide care to a woman even if her life is in danger you won't

believe this decision coming up

you

welcome back to met with the director lines are open eight four four nine six seven two seven eight

nine well there is the unanimous decision that just came down from the fifth circuit court of

appeals it's a down in the south federal and pellet court just below the U.S. Supreme Court

all of the the federal pellet courts of the courts just below the U.S. Supreme Court

and this is one of them the seven circuit court of appeals Chicago that I clerked on

was the same but the fifth circuit covers states like Texas

they just ruled and this was unbelievable to me on a 1986 statute let me tell you what the statute

provides statute provided that hospitals especially when they get federal funding which they all

do hospitals have to provide abortion services if the life of the mother is at risk doesn't matter

what other laws there are one way or the other if the mother's life is at risk they have to provide

abortion services the fifth circuit court of appeals

prejudges unanimously just decided that that statute can't be used to require emergency care

if the mother's life is at risk now you know enough to enough you have Texas with the snitch

bounty and all this and you have all sorts of disputes and divisions if a mother's life

is at risk we're guaranteed life liberty in the pursuit of happiness and life is the first word in

that phrase life liberty in the pursuit of happiness it is unthinkable that a federal court

would rule that if her life is at risk the hospital doesn't have to do anything

that is wrong that is morally wrong absolutely morally wrong and will the supreme court overturn it

has the power to will the sixth tarantulas overturn it we'll see if there's an appeal but the other

thing in these cases is appeals take time and a woman in that circumstance does not have time

one of the lines eric of reedsberg thanks for calling eric what's in your mind today

hey mad how you going good thanks what's that so much years a little bit back order the

immigration problem here my question would be for all the for all these migrants that are coming in

and people like the scientists and Abbott are putting these people on planes and flying them to

other cities with all the bad terrorists and all the terrible terrible people that are coming

how do they pass the checkpoints to get on these planes you know eric that you should be

are you a lawyer you should be a lawyer that's very good the reason they get on the checkpoints in

the planes and I don't think they are old terrorists but you're right there have been people

on the watch list who have slipped through there have been they catch them and and you think

could others just slip through I don't know but statistically it's probable

but how do they get on a plane without an ID right you and I can't do it and the answer is these are

private planes it's not like that they're just going down and they're going hey you know going

up to the delts of the united desk and you know booking a flight that isn't what's happening what

happens is that the governments of these states Florida and Texas in particular but Arizona too

did do it before the democrats but Texas is the one

the state will hire rent a plane at least a plane or they use a state plane

with the least one and they're they're these migrants are bus to an airfield and it's not

like michael field it's not a normal airfield that does passenger traffic and the plane takes off

you know you're not carted when you fly in a private plane one of the weaknesses in our

fae system and I've flown on private planes and as a passenger for legal cases that kind of thing

and you just walk up and you get on so there is not absolutely is not scrutiny on how you get on

a private plane sadly in a sense because if somebody wants to commit another terror act like 9-11

they could try to do that now they have to file a flight plan they have to identify themselves

and there's a lot of that those kinds of checks and balances but that's how they do it

uh Abbott Greg Abbott I do not know if he uses a state plane or I do not know if he you know has

a donor or the state at a taxpayer money just rents a uh rents a large passenger plane

and just buses them on and they don't have to show any ID at all not at all and so something

in my view has got to give on this congress isn't a deadlock there has been a call for Joe Biden

to do it by executive order a lot of that comes from Mike Johnson who is trying to get him

to uh do things that'll help Donald Trump um Joe Biden has signals to Chuck Schumer in the

Senate that he wants them to do a deal that involves greater border security he's already

signaled that the hold up is going to be in the house Schumer has sat down with Mitch McConnell

and they are close to agreeing that's the latest word Schumer issued that statement earlier this

morning they're close to agreement they're all in agreement on Israel and Ukraine and they're

close to agreement on much more strict enforcement of the border in return for money to put it into

effect and hire the agents more agents that is very close to fruition the Senate the problem is

and this gets back to the first topic we talked about at the beginning of the last hour

when it gets to the house you have at least 30 people in the in the freedom caucus maybe 40

and you certainly have 10 who are sociopaths and all of them will injure the United States to

injure Biden they won't vote for it that means that Mike Johnson has got to get democratic votes to

vote for it and like on the continuing resolution there were more Democrats that voted for it than

Republicans remember that's the one that kicked the can down the road to January 19th and February

2nd and that as far as I remember it got something like 200 democratic votes and it got like

160 or 70 Republican votes that has to be done again Mike Johnson has to step up to the plate

warts and all warts and all he has to step up to the plate but when he does that this time

I think one of the sociopaths is going to declare the chair vacant and by the way that rule has

got to change that can't just be the Republican party there has got to be a rule that covers

the whole Congress that says this takes 20 to 30 percent of the Congress to say the chair is vacant

not one sociopath but that's where it is right now so one sociopath will call the chair vacant

and then there'll be a vote and Mike Johnson has to figure out how many votes he has to get these

kinds of bipartisan things through and if he figures out I can only get 150 or 160

Republican votes to stay on his chair or 200 or whatever it is he's got to go to the Democrats

and this time they've got to give him the votes to stay in as much as I don't like the guy

you cannot continue to go along in that funding the government you can't just continue to do that

come in up let a news lot of weather and then Trump or Biden is about to give a speech I'll

tell you about where he lays it to Trump as a fascist and as an enemy of democracy

you

welcome back to Matt Ben direct our lines are open eight four four nine six seven two seven eight

nine well Joe Biden is going to give a major speech I'm looking forward to it's on the

anniversary of January 6th the insurrection and the anniversary and it's going to be in Valley

forge now Valley forge remember from American history where George Washington's heroic stand against

the British a lot of significance in the general Philadelphia area and he's going to speak there

looking forward to the speech and then a few days later he's going to speech down in South

Carolina in that that church that was a terrible thing where that white supremacist went in and

gunned down a number of people remember that a couple of years ago to speak there Joe Biden is

simply the most experienced president we've ever had in foreign policy and frankly in governance

and I am very very grateful that he's the president um he and Trump both gave

New Year's Eve speeches to your Eve statements and you will not believe well you'll believe

what Joe said you're not going to believe what Trump said but before he gets to that I'm

going to the lines Tom and McFarlane my friend thanks for calling Tom what's in your mind today

hi Matt I just wanted to bring you up to speed I'm not sure if you saw the news as far as how

elections matter and voting matters thanks to having judge Janet on the court they just came

down with the ruling that absentee ballots that if a ballot doesn't have full information

that in himself has not disqualifier for example it used to be in the Republicans champion this

if I put on my uh for absentee ballot if I put my first being first to let me initials my first

name with my last name and then my full address because I didn't put my full name on that ballot

that's missing information according Republicans that's an invalid vote if I just put my last

name and I didn't put my first name that's missing information and according to Republicans

that's an invalid vote but a court just ruled that no that's not the way it works that information

like that is still considered a valid ballot and the only reason why that has been the case is

because of the elections that we've been having so people get out there and vote it matters it

makes a difference and you're seeing it within our democracy today thank you

yeah that's a great point time yeah I did see that case and you're right with the Republicans

were doing that if you didn't perfectly write down what your address was in your name even though

as obvious as the nose in your face that you gave the full information they would disqualify the

ballot because they found that in the long run that disqualified more democratic ballots than

than other ballots but you're right you can put your first initial then your full last name and

address what does if you don't put a zip code down or what if you put your name your address

and say Milwaukee but don't put a zip code down or or that kind of thing or if you put a zip code

but no town I mean all of this stuff they would nitpick they'd have all these gimlinite people

with the green ice shade sitting there going well we'll throw this one out and that one out

and they especially like to do it in areas of high democratic turnout so if you start throwing

votes out in Dane County and in Milwaukee County but you're not throwing votes out and say

Walker Show County or Washington County just statistically you're benefiting the Republican party

this was a common sense solution the the Supreme Court isn't saying you don't have to comply

with the law but they're saying is there's a thing called substantial compliance and that's true

with with with nomination papers some people will you know I'll put my name in my my I'll sign

it my name for a candidate my address and under Milwaukee I'll put you know

two lines indicating that it's the same as the one before so you'll see Milwaukee at the top

and then slash slash slash slash slash slash rest of the page that is sufficient that shows that

you mean Milwaukee well when it's in this context you can't do that but you can if you if you're

if you don't put down the full first name if you don't have a zip code or something as long as

they can figure out that it's you that's what it is and that's just terrific so thanks very very

much time for a great call well Biden is going to give the speech January six and then a few days

later Trump is going to give a speech somewhere right at the same time in Iowa this campaign said

that one of the Iowa papers couldn't attend then they corrected themselves at the end when they

took a lot of heat over it the guys playing games but here's what they said this is their new years

their new years speech what what what what what what Biden says was was a beautiful speech

there's a statement really not a speech but he said the economy's doing great

create 14 million jobs lowest unemployment rate in 50 years

America's optimistic we're standing by our allies great great talk what you expect to be president

here's what Trump said and I'm reading this is unbelievable Trump for New Year's this statement quote

I would like to wish an early New Year's

salutation to crooked Joe Biden and his group of radical left misfits and thugs on their attempt to

destroy our nation through invasion and rigged elections look I for four more years I do not want to

hear these Christmas and New Year's speeches anymore I mean as Easter speech one time was just made

the hair on your your next stand up the guy is losing his marbles nobody running for president

keeps flagging to dead horse there about rigged elections and calling everybody crooked the reason

he does that is because he himself is crooked the old adage with fascism in the thirties and

Italy in the forties in and with the twenties in Italy in the 20s thirties and forties in Germany

was you accuse your opponent of what you did or how you are and make it even worse and then repeat

it stridently forever and ever you will get a number of people who will believe it and a number

of other people shrug their shoulders and say well that sounds terrible but that guy was terrible

too maybe they're both terrible and then they stay home that is that is the idea the other

thing I want to say is take a look at those two statements Biden and Trump Biden's

statement and his speeches reiterate themes he's been talking about for a long time he doesn't

articulately and he's based on solid fact what Trump is doing is partly sociopath but it's

partly dementia I mean it's dementia you get angry like this just because it's New Year's Eve

and you go quote I would like to wish an early New Year's salutation a crooked Joe Biden in his

group of radical left misfits and thugs and their attempt to destroy our nation through invasion

invasion and rigged elections that's incoherent that is incoherent is wrong and this guy shouldn't

be rained for president however the opposition the republican primary is so weak you know people

say oh well nobody could beat him I don't know about that the santa's can't beat him trying to

run to his right trying to knife Ukraine like Trump does just for the heck of it he lost a lot of

people when he did that they were looking for more you know Ronald Reagan or John Kennedy's

statement of standing up for our allies and they didn't get it from this guy frankly they're never

going to get it from this guy Nikki Haley are you kidding me I mean Nikki Haley what's the

civil war about well it was about I don't know what it was about could have anything to do with

the fact that South Carolina fired and fought something and you want to get into nasty things and you

know I don't know there is a discussion and this is this is more than discussion

that Trump's strategy at his upcoming trial is a mega freak show and then I'll get to the lines

I see when the lines do not hang up he is planning a mega freak show in the DC trial before

Tonya Chutkin bogus conspiracy theories he's gonna get up and say he wants to subpoena nancy

Pelosi to blame her for January 6th he wants to disclose classified intelligence which will

jeopardize our agents and then he wants to make allegations that China and his will are behind

Joe Biden because Russia was behind him and he's gonna rant at the judge for election and

interference that's what he's planning to do Joe of Madison my friend thanks for calling Joe what's

in your mind today thanks Matt I appreciate the information you've just provided is really

important to understand what the game plan is of this guy and I did want to make comment too about

Marx call in an earlier hour we're just playing out the fact that my Johnson is a Baptist and

seems to be kind of ignorant of what the history was of the people who followed the Baptist religion

as you look at our country they were just not allowed in certain colonies and they were jailed

for their beliefs and that he is so willfully ignorant about this is it's daunting it's daunting

to understand that this person who is the speaker of state or speaker of our house is just so

presumably ignorant I wanted to ask you a legal question on that about an issue that you just

brought up that had to do with a fifth circuit court as I understand it ruling that it is hospitals

are not required to provide abortion care to women who are facing a life threat threatening

emergency they ruled that that was not required and that they could thus deprive the woman of

her right to an abortion saying that that just too bad you know go dying the parking lot I guess

my question to you is there's there's something and I don't quite know this or understand it

it's called the deprivation of rights under the color of law and it says the title 18242 makes it a

crime for a judge or an official acting under the color of any law to willfully deprive a person

of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or U.S. law wouldn't the right to life

guaranteed by the Constitution be a place to start to sue this particular judges of this

particular court if someone loses their relative to the decision this decision can you talk this

through a little bit more it's called again the deprivation of rights under the color of law

and it's a crime for a judge or official acting under the color of law to deprive a person

of right of a privilege that's guaranteed by the Constitution what are your thoughts on that

man I really appreciate your help in this matter yeah great great great question and I want to say

to other people on the line I see you I'll get back to you right away do not hang up but that's

an important question I want to handle for Joe and then we're going to briefly cut away and come

back the statute 42 USC section 1983 says that it provides a it provides a civil remedy as well

and that was called the Ku Klux Klan statute it was passed during reconstruction when people

are going around the south murdering black people the problem with using it here is there already

is a statute it was passed in 1986 that says these hospitals must provide if the woman's life is

in danger and the fifth circuit says go die in the parking lot you you put it I mean I can't believe

this quite frankly we're talking life I think some of these judges don't understand medicine but who

cares they're not doctors but the point of the matter is if a woman has sepsis or a woman has an

ectopic pregnancy and could die even Texas law but not Idaho and Oklahoma law but Texas law so they

can have abortion but then the attorney general down there will disagree that it was life threatening

and sue the doctor this is what's happening and you can't sue a judge they have complete immunity

sadly for anything now if they pull out a gun and shoot somebody yes but for any decision they

make sadly you can't excellent excellent question and thank you Jack AmeriMac my friend we have

little time before the we cut away for a bit what's on your mind today Jack

well I hope that I wanted to go back it's not as important as the previous question but yeah

I just wanted to go back a bit to the discussion on immigration first thing is that

it's about two thousand Republicans have been screaming I want to say I'm pretty sorry the

thousands of thousands of bills that I don't want to cross the taxes but you know what the

Kelvin keep Jack on the line Jack stay on the line we're gonna cut away very briefly but I want

to finish this discussion do not hang up and coming up I'm gonna talk to Jack and then we are also

to talk about a decision where Michael Cohen now cannot sue Donald Trump believe it or not I'll explain

civic media app

you

welcome back to met with the director lines are open eight four four nine six seven two seven eight

nine we'll right back to Jack AmeriMac Jack please continue your comments I thought they were

very good all right well the second thing that I wanted to say is the first

it's called illegal whatever that means I'm coming to steal your jobs and the

the fact that we have probably the lowest unemployment rate certainly in in decades if not

even you know not ever just be why is that statement second thing is this so-called border issue

uh this is again part of the republic on a uh cut the cut the cut the cut budget and then all

of a sudden the government doesn't work as well as it should and oh oh it's the democrats fall

no it's not you guys cut the money out and you're trying to blame the democrats for what you've

done and unfortunately all you know basically all of the intelligence that was seem to go along

with this goal uh I'll keep the rest of that statement off the air because the SEC might

object the the third thing is if anybody deserves impeachment for this or for for other border

problems it's got to be the republicans who are in office from 2016 to 2018 who literally did

absolutely nothing about the so-called border problem when they had majorities in both houses

of congress and the presidency and they didn't ask to do anything at all about it and uh you know

of a sudden it's a problem but it didn't seem to be then so uh you know again this is part of

the the the con artist that these republicans have become and the biggest problem we've got is that

even the major news out with uh you know hey one of the large numbers of people gathered at the

border by golly those those news outlets are all down down there but there's nobody that is going

to comment or is saying hey you guys are in charge in the case it's in the house right now

you could do something about this but you're not why um this is this is an issue we've got

what Joe Biden has done is a lot of good stuff that's not publicized sufficiently the the bold

with this with the republicans keep on preaching it is all you ever hear and I'm discussing with

it frankly the people are disgusted with the news outlets well I'm not really with the objective

ones the problem is putting those objectives in whose outlets to tell the whole truth instead of

just what they constantly are bombarded by this republican so that's the end of my rant for

today excellent college heck you're nailed you nailed it on the head as you always do thank you

thanks very much for calling um I want to also go back to Joe a Madison and uh and add a couple of

things because there's a request for the legal opinion um you can't sue judges the reason you can't

sue judges is if you think about it if a judge says something from the bench it's unflattering to

one you know the criminal defender or someone um if you said they could be sued you they could

be sued for libel they could be sued for torts then you'd have to defend them you the attorney

general or somebody to have to defend them or they have to and you'd have trials within trials

so you can't you you don't do it so the way they solve that is to say uh judges have complete

immunity complete immunity I've had clients come up to me in my practice and say okay I want to

sue the DA I want to sue the judge and my advice always is you can't you really can't because um

that's they are performing a function if they do it badly they should be impeached or they should

be removed from office or if they're elected they shouldn't be re-elected but uh you can't sue

them so what Joe was describing because this is a really a dangerous decision quite frankly a very

serious decision to say that despite a 1986 statute that the Congress passed and Reagan was the

president back then so he had to have signed it in 1986 to say that um well okay the Congress and

the president at the time said that hospitals uh must provide a medical care if a woman's life

is in danger but we say now no now I haven't read the decision I assume they're

leaning on dobs but they may not even be doing that it could just be right out of thin air

because there's ellipse their doctrine air the fifth circuit is the most conservative

circuit in the country the most conservative some people say the eleventh circuit which covers

Florida in that area but that's nowhere near as bad as the fifth circuit and so you have states

like Oklahoma and Idaho who don't permit abortions even to save the life of the mother

that to me has got to be unconstitutional but that hasn't been tested in the US Supreme Court

Texas has a provision that if the life of the mother is at stake then abortion is permitted

but the problem is who decides that it's a factual matter who decides that her life is at stake rather

than just her health and they use that distinction believe it or not and so you would think well how

about a doctor that would be a good idea but you remember there was the Texas Supreme Court said a

woman couldn't have an abortion when her doctor said it was needed because they hadn't put it

under oath or something like that and she went to another state when you require someone to

engage in time-consuming litigation it's not only expensive but given the human body time

is dangerous you can't spend a lot of time on these things it shouldn't be this way at all dobs

is the wrong decision but now we're faced with what we're faced with and the fact that the fifth

circuit said that even if a woman's life is in danger the hospital doesn't have to provide that

service despite the statute is is wrong it's immoral it's got to be appealed but the problem is the

appeal is going to be to the six tarantulas that's the problem it's a very real problem so be

aware of that and that's why in my judgment that the dobs has got to be overturned either by

active congress although they could still come back in and say we're the Supreme Court and we rule

they're basically all the Supreme Court and they're setting up all of these impediments that are

absolutely wrong now I said in the early we don't have a ton of time but a court just came down

and said Michael Cohen's can't sue Donald Trump even though Donald Trump had him thrown back

in jail because he was going to write a book bad about Trump there's a terrible decision as well

coming to the end of the show great show great callers as always great cause stayed by for another

great show devil's having a diamond crew mat Flynn direct will be back and in the meantime I'm

signing off for today