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Valley Focus: Ieva Engel – Oshkosh Area Humane Society

Maino and the Mayor · Tue Jul 8, 2025

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin, live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Good morning.

Happy Tuesday for ya.

To ya.

Looks a little bit nasty out there, doesn't it?

I think so.

What's it threatening?

Well the battleship gray.

Yes guys.

Let's get that working.

It'll be threatening.

58 in Green Bay, 64 in Appleton, 64 in Oshkosh.

Mostly cloudy with showers and storms high in the upper 70s today.

I don't know.

I'm not gonna be that old guy who just

Biaches and good, but this has been a crappy since may hasn't it it was the

inconsistency of it

I mean there hasn't been like a two-week stretch.

Oh man this weather has

just been

unbelievable.

Do I have to worry

about tomorrow?

Yeah,

or it's been either really really dry Yeah, or kind of wet like crazy nothing in between

no or even like like Saturday or the Fourth of July day was that Friday?

Saturday, Friday.

It was like so hot.

Yeah.

Then the next day was like 53 years.

Wow.

When did the Wednesday night?

I don't know what it is one tomorrow night, but remember to guide the

farmers market.

I said,

what, seven?

Five out of seven?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's a lot.

What do you do?

And again, I've never gone camping in my life, like in a tent.

What do you do if you're at a campground and it's just like pouring rain all day?

What do you do?

Me?

Back up to ten kids.

Let's go.

Let's go to Chuck E. Cheese.

Yeah.

Is there still a Chuck E. Cheese?

Or is that an old guy's thing?

I think they're still around.

I think they're

still around.

That was when you're back in the day.

Not cheap.

No, but when you take your kids to Chuck E. Cheese for like a birthday, you just sit back, let them do their thing.

That's true.

People would take care of them.

Yeah.

That is just like a babysitting thing.

I thought that one bear was kind of creepy

though.

You can

go mine.

They open up that curtain.

Yeah.

You can go online and you can find like empty like graveyard areas of all these old mechanical really?

Oh, yeah, they're out there like the the Bob's big boys and stuff like that There's areas that just have all that stuff and some of that

memory lane for us Yeah, there's I told you about the that that shipyard thing where we're gonna have our little train car businesses or restaurants and I was

that sign park that they have up in Anaheim.

Show me a picture.

That's really cool.

That is Soak Clark gas station.

Love it.

And just all these signs, and they're around.

Okay,

you want me to tell you one that I want in my place and you've failed miserably at getting for me?

Just wait, the one on Main Street?

Yeah, you want that.

It's cracked, but I could fix it.

I could glue it.

I put a piece of plexiglass behind it.

It's the Packers City Motel site.

That's what it was.

I want that.

Bet literally I could go over there with a with a with a well I need something big to other I said correct I was gonna say I could go over there the hacksaw and I could cut that thing down I bet nobody would notice nobody'd be like hey That's private property or miss it or miss

it.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah,

huh Yeah, but that sign park is really cool.

I know just sit there with

coffee or beer, whatever, and just look around.

Remember that?

It's an alcohol.

All those signs

that... Well, one that I would love, because I grew up in a Sinclair gas station.

Oh, yeah.

When do you see Sinclair anymore?

There's a little gas station in Oshkosh.

The old-fashioned kind that actually has to the dinosaurs out front and the old gas pumps there and

say really

right on I think on Oregon right down from Pete's garage bar.

I know where you mean.

I've driven past.

Yeah, I know exactly where you mean and I thought about that.

Well, that's really cool Yeah,

but that Zephyr and just

was your brother's brand.

What is he in Claire?

Oh,

yeah, it's in Claire Okay, but that would be a cool park because you want to do something right there's a land over there.

They're trying to carve it out into

Different you don't want to just have a bench and nothing wrong with all that but they want to do something different that and that's kind of low maintenance I mean the signs if they're kept up, but just cool to just sit on those benches and look around remember that

There have been times where I've been tempted to like take signs off of places that are abandoned And but then you'll see oh no trespass.

Yeah, it's like is that really a law or a suggestion

well

That

is true that's

a suggestion and not a good one

because I love old signs

Yeah, red owl.

I just have some old Pepsi ones that were really cool.

Yeah.

Yeah, I sold them all I don't know why I sold a

lot of people I know or just

You know when I show people something it's like I'll give you a $200.

It's like hard to turn that down sometimes Yeah, I regret everything I've sold in that

way.

I we're talking last night.

It's some friends over that

by the way

Greatest breakfast Those hot dogs you just brought in yeah, even I eat that brought cold

I'm sitting here right now wanting one of those cold.

Oh my gosh, but those hot dogs you get from Costco Yeah, are the best tasting hot dogs I've ever tasted.

Yeah And

they're like 10 inches.

Yeah, they are did you put?

put nothing on them.

You gotta melt that cheese.

That cheese is really, really good.

I didn't know there was cheese.

That cheese, I made that.

That's got

melted

cheese.

There's some mustard in there.

That is really, really good

cheese.

Hot dogs are brought for breakfast is so underrated.

Yeah.

People say, oh, well, I'm having sausage with my eggs.

But he said, well, I'm going to have a hot dog.

He said, oh, that's wrong.

Hot dogs are good.

It's a good breakfast.

People like

it.

They're just not around to tell us about it.

Terry says, supposed to be nice tomorrow.

Glam Band at the Sardine can.

That's always huge, man.

It is.

I just put that up.

Vicki says, good morning, gents.

Hi, Vicki.

Michael says, hi, gents.

Beautiful day from downtown Madison.

He's got

some pretty good digs down there.

He's telling me about that.

Michael's so much poorer than us.

Uh, Texas from, uh, Bob says signs, Wally spots supper club.

Oh, that would be great.

Vic theater, Bay theater, caps.

Was it caps?

Cops.

No, that was the ice cream place.

Yeah.

Chocolate, right?

Yeah.

Um, but the, that sign park would, it doesn't look

junky either.

Remember when I showed you that?

It was just all around the

perimeter.

And then

if you could do it on,

and then just, and then you could look at that.

or look at the water.

Like, wouldn't that be like a cool place just to like, I don't know, hang out?

That reminds me of a Charles Corral

story.

I used to meet her there.

It was all the old stuff like that.

No, I'm hitting to my picturesque cabin in Montev.

I was doing a ghost podcast yesterday, and we were talking about Charles Corral that I said, hey,

did you ever hear

the story of?

I said, I don't know if this is true, but one

of my partners always tells me.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, it's so true.

We had a good laugh on that.

We're seeing to the tinkling springs,

flowing over the rocks.

Well, Martha.

Yeah.

And he had one of those, those broadcaster esches.

Yeah.

Yes.

Right.

Yes.

Well, that was almost like that era.

You almost had to have that.

You know what I mean?

That was part of the Rush Limbaugh.

I had that a little bit.

Yeah, that was kind of the allure of those guys.

There's another guy that did that with the bow tie that,

um... Charles

Ozgood.

Charles

Ozgood.

Yeah.

Yeah, he was good

to me.

I like the guy.

He's a little off kilter, but the guy that does that Sunday morning show that I've started watching.

He's a little quirky though.

Roka?

Moka?

Because he wears the bow tie.

Bow tie, right?

Yeah.

Charles Roka?

Something

like that.

Yeah.

He's a little...

You need to listen to that Bob Costas interview.

You'd like that.

Yeah, I'd like to.

Because he's... Moraka.

Moraka, yeah.

He's

not the... Normally, it's Jane Pauley is normally

the host.

Okay, that's right.

Because when I turned it on the first time, her picture was up.

I thought, is that Jane Pauley?

And then he was the host or a guest or something.

A couple of weeks off.

She's a

host.

But

he does fill in.

Boy, when I started in this business, and I was, well, the station I worked at was so small, it was...

I still got a business card.

Okay cam VT TV CBS ABC Wow was all listed on there because it was the only station the market So it was great.

They could cherry pick whatever shows they want Wow every night the best shows on ABC and whoever they would cherry pick them off Yeah, but but the thing is the the big thing going we ran the NBC Was that good morning today?

What was the today show today show and it was?

Jane Pauley.

And then Brian Gumbel.

Well, he came later, I think.

Tom Broca.

Tom Broca was

it.

That's right.

Tom Broca.

And the coolest thing was then we got the live satellite feed all the time.

Yeah.

So when they were kind of like with here, where, you know, I said, I'm not going to sit here during breaks anymore.

Cause like, I'm going to sit back like this.

Right.

Okay.

We would get the live feed when they were during breaks.

And every one time Tom Broca put his feet up on the thing and people were going,

You might want to put your feet down you get a big hole in your shoe But that was so cool to see those people as like normal people right and the other one Who we had where it was like we always wanted to see the you know the the satellite feet Yeah, was um guys just Tom Snyder.

Oh my god

the

tomorrow show.

Yes.

Oh, that's great Yeah,

that was

funny

the guy was just a Bob Casas spoke highly of Brian Gumbel.

And I thought Brian Gumbel was not the most difficult, right?

Isn't the word on him?

I've

never

met

him.

That's what I've heard.

Yeah.

His brother was awesome.

Yeah.

His brother just died recently,

right?

Yeah.

never met Brian Gumbel.

But he, he was just talking about how sports and you know, you don't know this better than anybody, but just to change HBO sports, how just everything has just changed

much.

And of course I told you yesterday about.

You know, he's not like gambling at all.

It's just, it's really taken away from the sport.

And anyway, it's an interesting interview from a guy that, you know, he still looks nice to me.

He still looks like he's 35, 40, but he, you know, 40 years.

And he said he went back to call games.

They called him back.

Yeah.

He said, I didn't do a very good job of that.

He was very just self cause that, that wasn't me.

I didn't really enjoy it.

Cause I had my, my better days were behind me when it comes to that.

He goes, I just want to be an emeritus status and help.

Anyway, I can, but I don't I don't want to be the front guy anymore.

He I will say this.

He never shied away from anything.

I remember he did the big interview with who's a pro wrestling guy, Vince McMahon.

Yeah.

And he was talking about the steroids and all the things going on in the guys dying really young.

And he kind of he went after him.

Put that Penn State guy away, too.

Didn't he at that interview?

Yeah.

When

he went at him, pretty much on national TV.

He said, Jerry, what?

Sandusky.

Yeah, well, what did you just say?

Yeah.

He did.

You're right.

He didn't shy away.

I helped him out one time, but he called me at home.

What?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Tell the story.

Yeah.

Okay.

When Charles Martin slammed Jim McMahon.

Remember that?

Yeah.

586.

Yeah.

And got suspended and everything.

And he was trying to get an interview with Charles McMahon.

Okay.

And we're, I was with NBC.

I was with Fox 11 or whatever NBC, whatever we were then.

Yeah.

And so he called me.

Instead is there any chance, you know, we could get this blah blah blah and Charles Martin and I okay.

This is a true story.

I'm not I don't make up this stuff, okay?

the night before I was with Charles McMahon at Sebastian's and Charles Charles Martin not McMahon Charles Martin was slamming man, and he was doing shots

One after another, he had like 14 shots lined up.

And in his big hands, they're like thimbles.

And it was, it was a crazy night.

Yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Uh, next day, the whole thing happens.

He gets suspended.

I go to his apartment.

I got the only interview that Charles Martin did.

Really?

Well, the Bob McGinn from the Milwaukee Journal even called me, asked if he could use excerpts from it.

Okay.

He sat in Charles Martin's living room, told me about how his mom was a bootlegger.

He was an alcoholic by the time he was like 14.

and the whole thing, yada yada.

I set up, Bob Costa said the only national interview with Charles Martin because of me.

Because of you.

Because of me.

How come, how

did I

not hear the story already?

I've

known you how

many years.

Right.

You

know what I got out of it?

I was just asking.

He sent me a cap.

Oh man.

Not even a note?

Like hey.

Yeah he was.

I'm trying to find if John thanks so much for helping and he sent me an NBC sports cap.

You didn't call back saying, hey, Bob, you know, the Olympics are coming up, you know.

I always thought I could hold it sometime for as a thing, but I'd never, you know, in the back pocket.

Yeah.

Try and

pull that out now.

I know,

right?

He seems like he would have taken care of you.

He seems

like a nice guy.

I don't know.

I had never met him either, so, but, yeah.

Nobody's taking care of

me, Jim.

I'm an orphan.

Come on.

Help with those hot dogs you got this morning.

Oh, man, we got another one.

We're trying.

We're going to set a quick break.

Mind of the matter.

Great lineup for you.

Stay with us.

never saw that movie.

Really?

Footloose.

Wow.

I know right?

Never saw that movie.

The Broadway play too.

What was that?

Did you see the Broadway play?

Yeah.

Kevin Bacon?

No.

There's a lot of 80 movies I never saw.

So why is that?

Like I never saw, okay, some of them I'd have to give my man card because I was too old.

Like Pretty in Pink, never saw that.

Nobody

saw that.

I saw that.

You

saw

that.

I didn't like the Brad Pack type movies.

Oh, I didn't like all of them.

I thought Breakfast Club was my life, where they're all in detention on a Saturday.

I told you

my story about the principal, right?

Well What's the story?

All right or not the principal the guy that what would it be

the janitor?

No, no the the monitor the monitor Yeah for the day.

Oh, he was the vice vice principal or something like

that.

Yeah, yeah

So I was in Tucson and Get said to do a live shot at the What was it the I remember two side Toros minor league baseball team and you know people around a guy comes up to me goes hey, hey

What channel you with I told him you know whatever he goes hey, I was watching last night boy.

It's a cute anchor you got there.

No, okay creepy guy We're in a Hawaiian shirt.

It's kind of whatever.

Yeah He goes hey Yeah, let's talk to her my good.

Yeah, okay creepy guy go sleep on your park bench and whatever whatever They goes hey does Carl Kinberg work for you?

Yeah, he's one of my producers.

Hey, tell him I said hello.

I'm an old friend I okay

My name's Paul.

Okay.

Go back.

Hey Carl.

One of your loser friends sleeping in the park wanted to say hello and he's trying to hook up with Kathy or Oh, yeah, Paul Gleason.

Yeah, he's in town shooting a movie And what?

He goes, oh, yeah, he's a big time actor.

You didn't know that like no, I didn't know that So he's in town shooting a movie.

So the next time I saw

I sucked up to him like

you can't believe.

Hey, nowhere it

got me.

Nowhere.

Kind of like what you did for Costas.

Nothing.

Same thing.

Nowhere.

Nothing.

See, maybe that's... I know.

I should leverage that a little bit more.

I know.

He was thinking, we were talking about Costas.

Remember he had that show on after Letterman called Later?

Yes.

And it was just two chairs, him and another person, and it wasn't necessarily always sports.

No,

uh-uh.

He was actually just a really good interviewer.

I think

he's the best interviewer there's ever been.

I really and truly

do.

Yes.

He's a good interviewer.

Yeah.

could drag it out a

little bit though.

Yeah.

Remember when he did that?

Well, he sometimes wants everybody to know exactly how smart he is in

his asking his question.

Sure.

But remember when, I don't know, was it LeBron James was going from one team to another?

Yeah.

And he dragged that announcement out like for two hours in an interview.

Do you remember that?

There was a pre-show to that.

Was that

him?

Wasn't

it cost?

I don't

think no, I don't think it was cost us.

Oh god it went on

forever ever that was the dumbest thing of all time wasn't it even ESPN I think which has a

certain

arrogance about itself like we're the king of sports.

That's what they even kind of came back and said Yeah, maybe we kind of over did this.

Yeah, that's actually considered one of the biggest like What's the food and sports sports broadcasting history like they built this up so big

Maybe it was three hours.

It was forever just and yeah, it wasn't him though.

I don't think Cuz I know what you're talking about.

Yeah, I'm gonna take my services or talents to the self-beach.

Okay.

Why would you do that?

Yeah, that was the whole thing.

Yeah

Anyway, but I do agree that he was a

great interviewer though.

But also that would never that wouldn't be Bob Costas.

That would be the network saying you need to make this

right.

Yeah.

No, but he seemed though later in life.

Again, I just listened to one interview.

So but he seemed like he is not defined, isn't the right word.

But he kind of said, look, I'm not going to do that.

You know, he kind of got a little bit more confident.

Maybe at that time he couldn't.

Maybe you get to a certain

point

where it's like, I'm not going to do this, but he did.

I don't know how many Olympics he did.

And, um, can you imagine?

I don't know if he was a diva or not, but probably got the room he wanted and

you know, the food

he wanted.

You know what I mean?

Like he probably had pretty decent, um, yeah, travel

arrangements.

Remember the Olympics where he had pink guy, but they still made him.

He talks about that.

He basically made him work.

He has a pink guy looking like he said that.

I remember that.

Yeah.

And I just seemed like later on in life, I don't know, it was 35 years or the last five or something, but he, that's when he said, like, I'm not reading that.

You know, I was like, wow.

You know what's funny though, you think back, even on the Olympics at those times, there were certain people that were, they would use the Olympics to really billboard and marquee younger talent.

And so many of them just disappeared then.

You know what I mean?

It's like they're right in the precipice of making

huge.

And then you never hear of them again.

Like what like remember Bill McAfee?

I used to do stuff for Bill McAfee, and then he just boom disappeared.

Hmm.

Yeah

Got this my favorite

cost this interview was the Bob Knight interview after the incident with Neil Reed He this tree.

Okay.

He said something that was so Politically and sexually or whatever you want to inculcate Bob Knight did

yeah, yeah, I remember that

remember that

yeah,

I do Can I say it Todd?

No,

I don't know

that's too early.

Okay?

Okay,

basically he's, well, it's kind of like if, if a sexual assault is inevitable, enjoy it.

So he said,

and it's like, yeah.

And it's like that.

Yeah.

That was horrific.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah.

You wonder sometimes how it's like, what are you thinking?

You know, I don't know.

This is what we should do.

Bob Costas owns John Minow a favor.

No, he does.

And he is.

He loves this emeritus status.

He says that he goes, I want to just, that's what I'm going to do from now on.

I'm just, I want to be viewed from an emeritus status.

I'm not calling any games or not doing any, he didn't say grunt work because I'm just not going to do anything except maybe we should call him as just someone, give us a reflection and a perspective on sports.

had him on my radio show one time.

It was he nice or was he,

he was, he was great.

Um.

Okay, I

asked him a question that

he absolutely put that on John's list I'm doing I asked him a

question that he absolutely loved because we're both big baseball card guys.

Oh,

yeah,

I said he loves base 1965 you put your nickel down you get a pack of baseball cards What would be the worst five cards you could possibly get like

that and

loved that he was bringing out names He loved that

and that guy knows this big

time

on Monday Was he an athlete?

No, he's really little

is he okay like five foot five oh yeah but he was anyway it was a great interview all right so that's a new goal all right we'll get started quick break back after this

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Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Good morning coming your way at Tuesday 58 in Green Bay 64 now 1064 in us gosh mostly cloudy with showers and storms high in the upper 70s Today is a video game day something.

I have never done.

I've never played a video game

No, you're not even like in a tablet or something or any of that Never played you've never dropped a quarter in and played Pac-Man or your Pac-Man.

No,

I was I had my granddaughters at

The right place month or so ago when they're in town.

Yeah, and there's a Pac-Man and I didn't I couldn't show her how to play it

Oh, man,

isn't that bizarre

that?

That was a great

every I know I've never played a video game

Wow, yeah, they were talking about Set in the cost not good been the cost of this interview.

There was another interview.

They're talking about how Kids not so much in the United States, but some in the United States, but really in some other countries

are just so addicted to video games like an addiction like like I'm talking serious addiction you know cocaine type stuff and that they're they have no social skills at all and it's just these it's it's really sad how addictive video games have gotten it's just crazy the and then there's yes you can play you can be in

Taiwan and play some guy in Germany.

Absolutely.

I mean, it's just

crazy the way that's networked, but that it's all day.

Like, I'm talking eight, nine hours a

day.

Oh, yeah.

Would you see them all every time those people make?

Yeah.

But it's just,

what do you

with

that?

What's, Todd, what's

Fortnite?

I don't know, but I do know it's a thing.

I've heard that's like the

most addicting thing when people get into that.

It's like

unbelievable.

Like they'll play all night long.

So, like, I know these friends were, they had to put a lock.

Unlike they're the door of where the things were so that their kid wouldn't be up all night long playing that

so there's a My parents did the same thing on the liquor cabinet

That was

the

games we

played

you know my dad had such terrible tasting stuff though I never had the thing you know what his go-to Shot was every day coming to have two Pam's blue ribbons and two shots.

You know what the shots were old crow.

Oh That is the worst tasting thing

All right.

It's like gasoline.

Oh, you ever taste that old crow?

It's horrific.

It's still wrong.

I don't think so.

Is it Todd?

I don't know.

I had an old crow decanter one time that was really cool.

Well, it's funny because we were talking about the signs, but no, the bicentennial.

Oh,

yeah.

Those canters that they made for the 200th.

Yeah.

And it's gonna be cool.

And I wish I would have saved some of those.

I'm ready to talk to you about that.

But just those are just cool things to have.

And yeah.

No, I don't remember

old crow.

It's made by Jim Beam now.

Oh, is it still being made?

Yes.

I've never seen that in a bar.

I've never like sat in a bar and looked up at her bottom shelf and seen old crow.

It's

not on the top

shelf.

It's not it.

You don't have to look up.

It's on the bottom shelf.

Yeah.

Wow.

Today's also cow appreciation day.

I appreciate cows.

Shout out to Kiwani County, right?

Okay.

Why?

They have more cows than people.

Oh,

really?

I didn't know that.

Oh, I find that interesting.

I did not know that

because it's living in the hood.

I just

think that's like really interesting.

Huh?

Okay, so I don't know.

Are you sure about

that?

Here's so I just looked at

it.

Okay.

No, Keewanee County has roughly 4.74 cows for every person.

So right now,

that's a lot.

I wouldn't have thought Keewanee County would be I would think more

Southwestern sort of like

there are some down that way too, but yep Kiwani County

But I think Kiwani County leaned into that one year because I remember it was when I was in office and I'm like I Don't know that I would use that.

You know, it's a breaking thing.

You know, I would rather say I don't know

I would think like Shelton new Holstein those areas are big farm areas with big farms pushing four to one Wow Almost five to

one almost five.

We have

four.

Yeah.

Yeah, but would that

attract you.

It might for me.

I would rather come across a cow than a human.

Yeah, that

is true.

What did somebody tell us one day?

How many people get killed by cows every year?

Yeah, there's a lot.

Yeah, there are a lot of people.

They

act like they're all cool.

We're nice.

Boom.

Look out.

Okay.

Just turn your back on

him.

I still say if I didn't have an artificial hip, I would race one for money.

They can you wouldn't even come close not even close

with my real hips

not with your real hips not at your best At your peak, which is what we were at 17 18 19 20 whenever you were at your peak you could never outrun a cow

peak I did not you're right.

I didn't just say it.

All right.

You sure ain't there now.

Okay.

Wait, so

No, Cal appreciation it is

what I read that I thought okay that I'm gonna

mentioned Q1 County.

But I think they tried or they thought about using that as a catch

type thing, you

know, home of the Green Bay Packers or longest this, oldest this and

never caught

on.

I don't know if the mayor put the smack down on it or the county exec or if they just or if it didn't, maybe it didn't catch on her.

And I don't know what that would do for you.

I guess that would get, you know, the four H clubs and stuff to be like, wow, that's

Awesome, and if you're like Todd that would rather talk to a cow than a human may attract people.

Anyway,

all right, so that's that

Ham shall come from pigs.

So hamburgers are from no they come from cows He's got to do another one of those George Washington.

Thanks, man.

I hope so.

Maybe he's

awesome Maybe he'll do that with the 250

at the

concert.

No,

didn't like I said, you know, yeah Careful going to stuff with

expectations

I was watching an interview with Bill Burr.

Yeah.

I haven't seen him in a while.

Yeah.

He was pretty normal in this.

He wasn't like, you know, but he talked about something where, and he talked about that about coming up with fresh stuff all the time.

He says, when he started in comedy clubs, if anybody was there with a notebook, the bouncers would kick him out because people would be stealing their jokes and they'd be writing down jokes.

He said, now you do something.

It's worldwide 20 seconds later.

Yeah.

Yeah, so

when you said about Nate Bargazzi, you said he was good, but you've heard all everything he said you had heard pretty much, right?

Yeah, oh, yeah, not only that the stuff I wanted to hear like if you went and saw the stones you'd want to hear certain things,

right?

I just didn't hear what I like I'm with you on that George Washington.

I think

good.

I think he talked about his family, which I think is funny, but like Gaffigan

You know, I've seen him a couple times and he is just really really really funny and he there's some stuff that I've heard before But I don't know man.

Tell me that joke ten times.

I'll laugh

I still think Jimmy one Jim Gaffkin one that I laugh at our time I visited my wife's family in Wisconsin.

I was there for eight pounds

or grown up like a Milwaukee, you know, and then it comes summer, where are we going?

It's

like, it just went through

winter.

Now the best weather,

where are we going, where are you

going?

Today is also a freezer pop day.

Did everybody hear, I bet everybody in these two rooms, maybe not you, made their own ice

cubes with Kool-Aid.

Yeah.

Yeah,

we did,

did that.

We put you.

I'm trying to, I remember seeing

them.

How do you get the, how do we get?

Mine were made with low sugar Wailers.

Oh, Wailer.

How

did you get the tongue depressors to stick in there?

First of all, there were no tongue depressors.

don't remember having a tongue depressor.

Well, how do you, we just pop them out, just eat them like that with your hand.

Oh, no, I don't remember those.

Then you get all over your shirt and the mosquitoes would come after and the flies and.

Cause those

ice cubes,

like I

was

wondering how you get the

thing

to hold up till it froze.

No, no.

There is a way to do that.

You can use toothpicks.

You put cellophane or saran wrap over the top and stick it through that way.

And that'll hold those in place.

I never heard that.

That makes sense.

I saw that on an ABC after school special.

Wow.

I had

never.

Oh, I wish I would have

known that back in the day.

That makes sense.

Cause then you got the sticks are more fun,

right?

You always got the cheap stuff at home.

Well,

yeah.

Okay, I that's a really good idea.

I like it try that today is also blueberry day.

I've been eating a lot of blueberries That's one of my things I'm gonna have it for the Johnny juice our place

It's not our place.

We're next to each other

whatever blueberries and raspberries and frozen bananas all mixed in with the With the Greek yogurt and a little bit of honey.

There's a lot

beyond and you know what else I put in there Todd quenona

quinoa.

Yes

Okay, there's I Think about the ingredients.

I told this It's

an unbelievable blend that just your palate goes insane.

It's like Charles Corralt going to the cabin.

Yeah, that's what it is

And someone's getting yeah I'll be talking about this in a couple hours the that that

The spoilage on that's unbelievable.

It's too fast.

You don't want things that raspberries go quickly.

I freeze them.

And even by frozen, I know by the frozen avocados, the little cubes of the avocados, these are the healthiest things.

It's changed my life.

It's one of the reasons I'm so healthy now.

It's mind

boggling.

Ray Todd, have you noticed too?

did not hit my goal.

I was trying to get to 207.

Yeah.

for tomorrow?

Yeah, basically.

What

did you hit?

210.

Close.

You

still got a day.

I still got a day.

You still got a day.

When you're at last.

How many hot dogs?

Yeah, I know,

right?

That helped.

Having

two hot dogs and a brat for breakfast here helped.

Did you go to your 40th?

No.

So these people, you know, I'll tell you what, if you ever feel like, go stand next to the lunch lady.

You'll feel good.

You know what I mean?

I think she

died 26 years ago.

Don't stop.

The lady you showed me the picture of.

Today is, that's her mom.

That was her shoes on the committee.

No, it's not.

It was her mom.

Today is chocolate with almonds date.

Nothing better.

Nothing better at almonds with chocolate.

Cashews.

Jaiden, yeah, I might give you that one.

Yeah, cashews are better.

I might give you that one.

I might give

you

that one.

Yeah.

Uh, siruji, white chocolate cashew turtles.

No argument

here.

Yeah, I gotta give you that one.

Uh, Jaiden Smith.

Will Smith's son.

Yep.

Okay.

Kevin Bacon.

We're talking about Footloose.

Yeah, that's why I played Footloose today.

Angelica Houston.

Okay, you know what you know what you know what in movies sometimes where you have to just think yourself really some writer producer didn't say that's like such a cheesy dumb line Kevin Bacon and and what's his name Tom Cruise in in Officer and gentlemen

Okay.

When they were getting into it about, you know, yeah, he goes, Hey, you, you want to know something?

You're a lousy softball player.

Remember that?

And it's like, ah, that was such a cheesy life.

That's like, really?

You

remembered it.

Yeah, I know.

But you remember it because it was so cheesy.

Yeah.

So that was not officer and a gentleman.

Yeah.

No.

No, no, no, no, no.

Danger zone.

You

want the

truth?

Oh, I deserve it.

A few good men.

Yes.

Thank you.

They were both in a few

good men.

Thank you.

That was good money.

Dodgers at Brewers again tonight, which is a great series.

Brewers really gave it to him last night.

Six o'clock on WISS.

Text here from Bob.

That's the caps sign.

Oh, man.

Caps or cops?

Cops?

I think it's cops.

Cops.

Restaurant, candy, soda, bakery.

Right.

Where is that?

I think it was

right down here.

know it's on your, well, no,

I see that, but.

No, no, but I mean, I think it might have actually, that might have actually been right where we're sitting.

And I'm not even joking about that.

That might have been like right here on this block where we are, where the old Caps Cops restaurant was.

It says the University of

Wisconsin Green

Bay.

But I'm pretty sure it was on Washington Street, like right here.

Cause I remember going in there and having a big hot punch Sunday when I was a real little kid and

Then you said the booths are, is it Nicollet

restaurant?

So it was originally located at 125 Main Street and 211 Pine.

Later moved to 212 South Washington.

So down that way.

Just right down here.

Yeah.

Probably where Hagemeister is.

I thought it was south because

south would be south of Washington.

But it was on Washington.

That's where I went when I was a little kid.

Yeah.

That sign is, they said UWGB archive.

I didn't know they had a place like that, but.

didn't either.

I'd like to see

that.

Well, we have to maybe go get that Because if it's sitting some warehouse, what

is it exactly?

We're gonna do though.

I we get to talk sometime about your sister or Sister-in-law Okay, which okay who you were talking about before we went on the air this morning.

Oh, who's over last picks up stuff at like garage sales and sells it for ten times as much.

Yeah

I wanna do that.

That

has been my dream.

I wanna sell stuff on eBay.

Serious side hustle.

I want it.

I got great stuff.

Great stuff.

Get into Todd's head figure out what music he's playing.

Why?

Really none this time,

okay?

Very cool coming up.

We got Katie Burke three rivers rolling No, rollio three rivers rollio

rodeo

rollio log rolling event coming up in Howard coming up on July 12 We had Joe I was trying by the way

to get you guys to actually go and and compete

I think there might be some insurance issues.

She's smart.

I don't remember her, but I would have to practice.

You know what I mean?

Because that's going to be tough the first time you go at it.

you know what?

I took to it like, yeah, I was unbelievable.

I was unbelievable.

I remember doing a story down in Flint on that and people were like, you should do this.

Yeah, I remember that.

We're actually on camera,

right?

The whole, the whole gear.

Yeah.

I'll take out the story.

I've still got it somewhere.

I'm sure you do.

I will.

I'll find

it.

My guess is the key to that is kind of.

I got

a good low center of gravity.

And that helps a lot.

I would think.

And your feet are wider apart.

They told me, man, if you wanted to pursue this, you could make a lot of

money.

Why are you sitting

here?

I had a lot of other things going on.

I got it.

Later on we got Joe Verdegetter is our great guy, our racing expert, and Scott Hansen.

Scott Hansen is legendary in stock car racing circles throughout the entire Midwest.

Five time WIR champion, which is big time.

Then he raced on the truck circuit, the national truck circuit right here from Green Bay.

He is just legendary when it comes to racing in this area.

Then we got John Kramer coming up, headlines for the press times.

the monk community events coming up with my new thing.

There you go.

Yeah.

My new thing.

Yeah.

All right.

And then, uh,

Adriana Vander, at least, and Chef Lauren Rue there with the Oshkosh Mary at Waterfront Hotel and Conference Center, their new restaurant right on the water.

Right across the bridge from where our station.

That's okay.

Yeah, it's right

there It's called anchor and port grand opening coming up on the 29

nice

and you guys have some menus in there with you So you can take a look at some of the stuff

nice nice.

Thank you that I like that.

I like that a lot Okay, I want to talk more about your your cousin things.

Does anybody here's what I would be willing to here's what I'd be willing to do Well, then you looks great.

I would be one.

Yeah, I would be willing to share my profits

with somebody if they would do the selling and the shipping.

For like eBay type

stuff, huh?

So you're gonna be the, you're gonna buy it.

No, I would, I would have, I got this stuff.

Okay,

I got this stuff.

And then what I would do is I would, in fact, you know what I do, I see my books all the time on eBay, my books.

I would do just my books to start out with, sell them on eBay, but I don't wanna do all the stuff.

Why?

Because

I don't know how to do I don't know whatever I don't know I don't know how to put I don't know how to go on the internet and put an ad I don't know how to do that stuff.

I would send them I would put them in the package with the name and I would send them

Okay, I know her little name and I just don't give an accent

right, but I would give them a part a partial profits with them why?

Because I don't want to get involved with the whole internet part of the whole

get a scale Okay, so

here we probably

have one

and you weigh that, and the charts right in front of you, and the person's gonna say, I saw this on eBay, and you're gonna have come up with a minor something, and people are gonna say, I'd like to buy that.

Well, give me an example of something, like I said

in Facebook.

Frontlines, my book,

frontlines.

Okay, so you got this book, and you're willing to sell it for $18.

Okay, $20, and people say, I'd love to get that, and would you personalize it?

Absolutely.

Okay.

come back, all right, I'll take it and say, all right, one minute, wait, well, you're gonna know what the book weighs.

Where do you live?

I live in Tucson.

Okay, it's $2.40.

So the total is 24, or whatever it is, 22.40.

And they do that PayPal, you'll be set up for that.

I don't know what

that is.

know, but then I'm just-

I know

it's way too complicated

for me, Chip.

Why would you give

money away if you can, in three hours, you can learn how to do it?

Why would you give that away?

Todd, you wanna do it for

me?

I was just thinking maybe we could have like an assistant

help you with that.

That would be fantastic.

Actually, what you really want to do is get an intern to help you with that.

You don't have to pay him a student and they can say, look,

I'll give him class credit.

Well, you're really not in that authority.

You

have to sign the thing.

You have to put a whole bunch of forms to get class credit.

No, it's just it's good for students to do that.

They

to their marketing class and what was your project I did?

Well, I worked with this John Minow guy who was

way out there.

And I brought it to where he is actually turning a profit, thanks to my effort of designing his website.

But, but eventually you got to learn how to do that.

And I'm kind of preaching to, I don't know how to do that.

I was just gonna say, yeah.

Dad here telling me how to drive a motorcycle.

But I don't know why we,

I don't know, you want to give 20% away.

I would give, I would do that for the effort, for somebody.

I would, I would do the shipping.

Would take it to the post office all you gotta do is take one book and they'd say how much it is then you'll know You know how much it would be I would do that.

I would package it by those nice With the with the with the what you

might be cheaper ways to ship it than the post office.

All right, whatever I would is anybody out there wants to go partners with me

Yes, or no, but you got to keep it busy.

That's you know, what are you one book a week?

People don't want to do that.

Can you can you do like?

Three items a day.

Well, I don't know.

How does that do they still bid on you on eBay?

You can do that.

Or is it just like the flat

price?

Look, I'm not you need to talk to her.

She's made serious side hustle money on this thing.

She's really good at it and she loves it.

She has more fun with this.

I've always wanted to do it.

And

I always want to do

it.

She has her niche too.

Like you have your niche in memorabilia.

Yeah, probably.

Well, been really

involved.

I'm sorry, don't mean to laugh.

Yes, I do.

At the same time, from Nancy.

As I'm listening to this, I'm thinking to myself, is the man who claims he always has an assistant preaching to John right now about how to do things for himself?

Nancy.

Okay.

Thank you, Nancy.

Alright, Nancy, you may be onto something.

Yeah,

yeah.

So who's going to help me out?

Looking for a partner.

This could be very lucrative for you.

Brian Mills just said, John, I've done the eBay thing.

I'll help you out.

Thank you, Brian.

There's

a good

guy.

I can help you.

There's Brian.

Brian, we're in business.

And

I'll tell you what, I'll participate.

I will get you.

No, you're not good, Shuffle.

No, no, no, no, I don't want to see anybody.

He's getting in there for money.

No, no,

I'm not.

I will.

No, this is what I'm getting in there for.

I will get, find a student to help you.

I got Brian.

I don't need your student.

Brian's doing it.

We don't need your student.

We don't need your students.

Brian's in.

He's the right guy.

Brian.

I'm gonna make you so much money, you're gonna pay cash for that Blake Superior Beachfront property in Marquette.

Run, Brian, run.

Stay with me, Brian.

Back at us.

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim

Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

My name here, hour number two, 97.9 FM, WGBW 98.3, 96.5 FM.

W-I-S-S, of course, is Civic Media app, mostly cloudy with showers and storms high in the upper 70s today.

We got a thing here from Todd.

Todd, can you read that one?

Well, that's a

nice,

Todd.

This makes a lot of sense.

I bet Todd is speaking for a lot of people.

Todd from Depeer says, since this shipping thing is never going to happen, I'll throw my name in the hat.

How's that birdhouse from 20 years ago coming along, John?

Yep.

Also another one, Vinny says I'd pay to watch Mino Log Rule.

There you go.

Michael Freeman says, Lisa from Simple Life will help JM, meaning Mino.

Also, can she sell her quiche at Johnny Juice?

There you go.

Yes,

yes.

She does

have

good quiche.

And by the way, okay, my buddy, Knob.

Yeah.

He found when he's cleaning out like his dad's place, a shoe box from Air Jordans, like an original shoe box.

All right.

Read how much he got for that.

Wow,

$1,500

for a shoebox!

I got shoeboxes like you can't believe.

So does Jim, but they've got $1,500.

Yeah.

From

back,

from

back

when he was

mayor.

We're talking, we're talking earlier, this log rolling thing.

I really wouldn't get you, but we're just talking about three

rivers, Rolio log rolling event coming up in Howard on July 12th.

were just talking about side hustle money.

That's how we got into this eBay, all that kind of jobs are authors.

So he's going to sell his books.

And anyway, but this log rolling thing, it's, there's a little buzz out there for this.

You've been getting some.

exposure on it.

Yeah, we are very excited to be in Brown County for the first time and for our 17th annual Three Rivers Rolio.

I did not know you were talking about where people could go to train for this.

I didn't realize there were training centers in the Green Bay area.

Yeah, absolutely.

People can give it a shot at the YMCA's if you look it up or the Kroc Center.

That's amazing.

So what is like, I guess training is what sense of balance.

Don't get on the log.

There's gotta be other things you do before you get on the log.

Like, what is training?

Well, training for the amateurs, you sign up out of YMCA.

Amateur meaning child or adult.

Adults can absolutely learn.

Don't worry, I dragged my boyfriend now, husband, into trying this.

So any age can come out and try it.

It's getting on a log in a pool as the first type of training.

Now professionals are going to cross train, they're going to sprint, they're going to do strength training, they're going to do all your normal training than an athlete would.

But the number one thing that they want to do is make sure they're on a log.

I can stop doing that.

I'm guys getting ready for this

thing.

I didn't know there were professional log rollers.

No.

Is that like a professional circuit?

There is a professional circuit.

There's a governing body, and we are just coming off the U.S.

Loggerly Open in Gladstone, Michigan, headed here.

One more event on Sunday, and then the World Championships.

You're in a little Beatty Knock, were you up there?

No.

That's on the Lake Michigan up there?

No, we're

not.

We're in Gladstone.

They have a place for this.

Van Cleave Park.

Oh, sure.

And the harbor.

Oh, very cool.

When you train...

Do you train with someone right off the bat because I gotta believe it's different if you train by yourself and then get somebody else jumps on there

Yeah, it's very different.

So at the Y I mean most people are gonna get in class and they want to get on the log with someone But we'll spend in a 45 minute class will spend 35 minutes doing stuff by themselves And then because they will all we want to challenge another person you want to be the last one standing really that's that's the goal of any of it We'll let them start rolling against

people very young.

Do they have real little cleats on the shoes?

So professionals do have spikes on their shoes.

The amateurs and the why?

No, we don't put spikes in the pools.

Okay, is it, do they wear shoes or can you go barefoot?

So amateurs in pools go barefoot.

And their logs are carpeted or synthetic.

And so you'll go barefoot.

You're not on the log for a long time when you're starting to learn.

And so they'll go barefoot.

As you progress and you're up there for a longer time, we'll add a tennis shoe.

And then the pros go to the barewoods and wear spike shoes.

So I

mean, when the pros do the actual logs, I mean, it's like a log,

right?

Yep.

They are actual logs.

Amateurs do too, but they're wrapped in carpet.

This is like outdoor carpeting or something or just carpet.

Okay, the question was, can they bump each other?

No, there is a center line.

Boy, that looks pretty

good.

They're pretty close,

this one picture.

This picture you showed us is

like one arm, but you

don't just say that.

So there's incidental contact.

So if you're both flaring your arm and you hit each other, that's called incidental.

There's no intent behind it, and that's fine.

If you reach across and push your competitor, the other person automatically wins that fall.

You cannot intentionally push them off the log.

It's a sparring match.

You would

never argue incidental versus

intentional.

So, okay, you're facing opposite directions, right?

It depends.

Okay, yeah, explain that again.

Okay, so every roller, just like you have a right-handed person, right-footed person, left-hand, every roller is going to pick a shoulder, right shoulder or left shoulder.

So if I'm a right-shoulder roller, rolling another right-shoulder roller, to watch each other's feet, we face opposite directions.

So one of us has to run backwards on this.

14 inch to 12 inch diameter log and the other person gets to go forward and then you're battling back and forth to take control of that log It's a little bit more strength match and you're gonna see That battle for control and then if I'm a right shoulder drooling a left shoulder droler Then it's a running match.

So you're gonna run more across the body of water because you're both gonna want to go forward There'll be some back in there.

So it just depends if Who you're matched up against in the bracket?

So if your if a right is going against the left, so it's gonna be one

forward, one backwards.

How do you decide that?

Do you flip a coin?

Cause wouldn't you rather run forward?

No, it's a battle of your feet.

You got your, your feet, your spikes are on that log.

And so you're going to fight to be the one to run forward or backwards.

And sometimes you'll be the smaller roller and you just have to see the

people like, you know, talk about a dominant hand, obviously in dominant eye.

Do people have a dominant foot?

Do they have dominant feet?

Uh, they can.

Yeah.

I think I

do like a kicker.

I mean a field goal kicker is gonna have a dominant foot They're not gonna kick one field goal with their right and one with their left

good point good point good point I didn't think of that, but now let me ask you this in the professional Game yeah of this you said the world championship is in Hayward correct these Love we used to call lumberjack competitions.

They've become really popular.

Haven't they?

Yeah, they still are Wow

We're growing and

spreading.

I remember when White Rolled to Sports did a thing on him one time.

I was more than one time and I competed in the very final great outdoor games and then the Steel Timbers.

I'm White Rolled to Sports?

Yeah.

No kidding.

I was down to Florida, running the boom.

Oh my gosh, that's awesome.

How long were you on the log?

Like, is it seconds a minute?

So...

The rolling can be anywhere from a 20 second match to 20 minutes.

Is there

a time when it's like, come on, like a baseball game?

Or is there no scoring?

Yeah, there's scoring.

So it's bracket style tournament, double elimination.

And so a match is best of five.

So you have to beat the other competitor.

three times in order to win.

So if that happens, boom, boom, boom, match over in an early round, later rounds, when you're getting the semifinals and finals.

And even the early rounds can run longer.

And there's also log sizes.

So the men will start on 15 inch in diameter.

And every time you hit a time limit, so men is one minute, three minute, five minute, they move down to one inch in diameter.

So now the log spins faster, so you get more action.

So there is also the- Oh, that's

cool.

What makes it spin faster?

Well, the diameter.

Oh, I switch, okay, okay.

You drop the diameter and it'll spin faster.

Ah!

So, hmm, I just want to talk about the length of this.

You said that it can be for 20 minutes, but eventually they just call a truce and then...

No, they never call a truce.

They just wait for someone to get exhausted and fall in the water.

Really?

I bet it would get exhausting.

Oh, now you're kidding?

That's like jump rope.

Yeah,

that's gotta be... I mean, it's like a mini sprint on and off.

Right.

I mean, you have to have cardio.

How do you train for something like this if you're not in the water?

So, cross training, strength training in the gym, lifting.

Other people will train, cardio, bike, run, swim.

But again, time on log is very important.

Wow, this is cool.

And you got it coming up, the 17th annual Three Rivers Rolio, heading to an exciting new venture thrilled to be partnered with the Village of Howard.

for an action-packed weekend Friday, July 11th, amateur starting at four o'clock.

So can people just come there and say, hey, I want to give this a shot?

They cannot.

They have to be registered in advance.

OK.

And is there a do like to pre-register?

Is there more to it than that?

I mean, do you think I take a little bit of a physical or something?

No, they don't.

the amateurs, members of the United States Lawyer.

Turn

your head and cough.

We don't have to

say that.

I mean, come

on.

What if the guy can't even get on a log, you know?

Well, they have to be members of the United States Lawyer Land Association, so.

Oh, OK.

Oh, that's

pretty good.

OK.

And I mean, you have to know where to register

to.

OK.

All right.

these are dumb.

Yeah,

we are.

She's like, I knew that along.

She's well into this.

Todd, you're prep these guys for God's sakes.

OK.

So then professionals start at 10 o'clock on Saturday morning.

Yeah, absolutely.

And if you're coming down, there's food trucks, coffee vendors, so feel free to grab a coffee.

And if you want to come for the lunch hour, there's beer and food on site.

And people can just sit in the luncheers and watch.

And it's

free.

Yeah, free to the public.

That's awesome.

This is going

to be fun.

Yeah, how did you get into

this?

How did you get started?

So I started the local YMCA

on Alaska

in yeah, the unalaskan area the lacrosse Y And my brother saw it wanted to try and I was a 20 months younger So then after he started I wanted to do it at the age of six, but

age of six you started

this Wow, so then you you were talking me for the show or before the segment you played other sports How did this help you in other sports?

Longer lane gives you a great sense of balance and really quick feet like so any sport that you need quickness.

I mean you're on a small diameter log keeping your balance So all cardiovascular strength quickness are all gained from the longer lane.

You know, it's funny.

We we interviewed a kid that is top score in football 400 some yards his last game five touchdowns and he's and we asked him what his biggest strength was and he said balance

Yeah.

He just, I don't know if he did log one.

I wish we would

have them

back on our show, but he just said, you know, I, I, I just have been gifted with it or not gifted.

He works really hard at it, but he goes, it's balance.

And yeah, that's, that's a, that's a key thing to have in any sport,

but it's an important skill,

especially this one.

Okay.

Tell me again, though, you, you said, and I didn't realize this because I'm a member of the crack center and the white don't, what don't.

He has, I'm not going to take that away from him.

He's there.

But the question is, how many times have you gone?

Really, Todd?

Well, I

mean, Todd's on my... Okay.

If I'd known there was a lot growing, I would have gotten

a lot

more.

He would have gone twice.

Right.

Excuse them for they know not what they speak, but

they

teach this

He's gonna be going every day now.

I'm

sure perfect.

That's great.

It's easy as easy as falling off long and then going for a little

swim Okay, I don't I don't mean to

sound creepy.

Okay.

Let's the latter part.

You want it?

Do you want to dress that at all?

I don't mean it's not creepy.

I do you want to see my calves?

They're unbelievable.

Let's go back to the first part

You want to touch it?

Right on your calf.

Yeah.

Don't

touch it.

Don't touch it.

Look, we got three pending lawsuits.

Just stay, stay away.

I think, I think because of my calves, I'd be really good at this.

How's your balance in your core?

Phenomenal.

Your core's phenomenal?

My what?

See,

look at her.

Look at her.

Just like that lady that looked at you.

That's the core.

When you said I'm 210, I'm like, are you wheeling?

How deep is water?

Do you have to swim or is it like a...

three feet of water.

What are you guys log rolling?

It all, it all depends because we're going to never over your head.

Is it?

Absolutely.

We need a minimum depth for safety so people can fall and splash in the water, but any depth is, I mean, deep is good.

You're not going to hit the bottom, land and twist an ankle.

Let me ask you, do you have to learn how to swim before you log roll?

I mean, you can wear a lifejack if you want.

My daughter does

I would wear a life jacket You would

Okay,

well this is exciting.

This is great.

What age do you start at you?

What are your brackets?

Is it it's gotta be eight?

the professionals any age you can turn professional Declare and you can go professional.

We have people as young as 16 in the pros then the amateur side there are age divisions So there's seven and under and then

And that's co-ed and then ten eight to ten boys eight to ten girls eleven to thirteen boys and girls and then

14 to 17 boys and girls and then there's an adult sport for anyone who wants to get involved as an adult at

the competition Is it just one going on at a time?

Or is there like a bunch from going on

or so the pros will start on to docks So yeah, we're

gonna we're gonna keep you keep you around for another few minutes.

Yeah, okay, we're

gonna send a quick break This is exciting stuff Katie Burke three Rivers rollio law-growing event in Howard coming up this weekend Is this gonna be televised?

You know

this one is not

okay?

But I've seen a televised.

It has been for five years.

I mean,

it's big

time.

Yeah.

That's cool.

All right.

We'll be back right after this.

Hey, welcome back with Katie Burke from the Three Rivers Rolio log rolling event in Howard coming up this weekend on the Undeck Circle Joe vertigo Scott Hansen legendary legendary area racer and Mark Houston chiming in I got a great name for your new next segment.

It'll be called name John's new injury

That would be we really can't go that long in a segment because we have to

breaks, put

it in itself again.

Talk to the producer about that.

Hey, this is exciting stuff, Kay.

I would love to come out and watch you guys do this.

As I

said, Kay, this is different.

And I think people want to get outside.

And this is all, obviously,

outside.

This is

an indoor, this is outside.

And, you know, the weather's going to be great this weekend.

And it's something different.

I think in the food trucks, it's just going to be a fun thing to do for, I don't know, a couple hours.

Yeah, absolutely.

I think we're going to head out there.

We've got something else going on, but I don't want to get out there.

I hope you can make it.

Yeah, this is going to be fun.

Now when you were okay, we got a thing here.

Do you have to be good to declare pro or it can just be a pro and suck?

You can't be a pro and suck you'll go out twice in a row in the tournament.

How competitive?

I mean this is this far away from each other basically looking at each other's feet or whatever I mean this has to get kind of personal almost doesn't

it?

It does and when you have a circuit I mean we're together

all summer, weekend after weekend, competing against each other.

It's a close-up family, but I would say it's also like siblings, where you're gonna butt the second you get on that log, it's go time.

Isn't

the trick, I don't know, I've never done it, but the trick to like the start, to like really just jackrabbit start and throw them off.

So the second the whistle blows, you're gonna pull off the dock.

So you gotta get a safe distance away from the dock.

You step on a log, pull off, and now you're out in open water, as a picture you can see.

But as soon as the judge is going to call time in, so you have to be both balancing and get a steady start, and the judge blows a whistle.

Now, it is legal if you're both timed in the split second that goes off to kick the log.

Rarely is this successful, but every once in a while it is.

There's a couple people who pull it off really well.

Just to knock their balance off like?

Yeah.

Instead of just, you know, gradually getting faster and faster, just wow.

Or go the other way, like say, I'll go forward, you go backwards, and then just trick them.

Yeah, you can.

That's called give and go.

You're gonna fake them like you're gonna come go one way and then you go back the other way.

Give and go.

I like it.

I like this a lot.

Once again, this is at the quarry in Howard this coming weekend and free admission, which is great.

That's cool.

That's so cool.

Food trucks,

little live acoustic music.

I'm assuming they should bring their own lawn chairs.

There will have some bleachers.

Oh, you do have bleachers sitting out there.

But you're welcome to bring a lawn chair if you want to be a little more kind.

comfortable and

what would be considered like the hotbed the Hayward area for these kind of things when you go to where the most attendance

the most attendance is probably Hayward

but the

Midwest is a big log rolling bet I mean people from Hayward will go up to Squamish and British Columbia and compete and there will be some international competitors it's

when you find a place to go is this ever called because of white caps or something or do you and tell me about like

The environment, how you say this is where we're going to go, how do you pick a spot?

Like the quarry is awesome because that's super calm there.

Yeah.

Like would you do it on the Fox River here in front of the city deck?

I think that would be a little too hard with the wake

for competition.

Me too.

Well, last night I tried to train on the Fox River where I am and it got a little wavy for a bit.

So typically you try to find a clone body of water, a quarry, a lake, a lagoon in Gladstone where in the heart, like wrap around the harbor in this little lagoon area off of Lake Michigan, but like Lake Michigan or the middle of the Fox River where you have large amounts of old traffic is not ideal.

Lakes are, lakes are again, wraparounds from larger bodies of water are great.

Cool thing for a small community.

Do you, cause everybody's looking to get people to come in.

food trucks and have events, and you can make a little bit of money on beverages.

I think of a place even like Elkhart Lake that's a very quiet body of water on Sundays, right?

I think this is going to be fun to watch.

I'm looking forward to coming.

I hope so.

There's a lot of action.

Like I said, we're in a bracket double elimination.

We have multiple world champions coming in to compete this weekend.

We have all five of the top men.

Rollers ranked rollers in the country coming in four-time world championship on a first against coming in

Wow

up-and-coming rookie who's podiumed every tournament this season, but yet to actually win one.

I need Anderson

Okay, I gotta say one thing.

Okay, everyone ever that I'm gonna bet on this.

I'm gonna bet on something When you talk about international world champions, I'm gonna make up a wager that the top log rollers are from Sweden I would I would say no no

The U.S.

Really?

Oh, I would have thought like these big Danes type of guys like Sven Orgensen.

Maybe a Lumberjack.

would say some little guy with a

really

unbelievable sense of balance.

I would be made.

I would have thought Barbara Mayer.

No.

This takes away some of the mystique.

I wanted to see the big Sven guys.

No?

No, I know

maybe a little more on the chopping side in

here

Do they still have all those competitions?

Absolutely.

Oh, those are something else, aren't they?

They

are.

You ever see that with the chopping things?

Those guys go through those logs like nothing.

They do,

but

I'll stick to the water in the summer.

It's a lot

more refreshing.

Tell me about the lessons that people can take on this.

Do you teach the lessons?

I have taught lessons at both the Kroc and the YMCA, currently teaching a little bit on and off at the YMCA.

Here

in Green Bay?

Here in Green Bay,

yeah.

Awesome.

I try to teach instructors more so that we have

greater reach as opposed to me showing up for all the classes.

But at the Y, you can look on their schedules and see when you can take lessons.

The Y should be offering them again in the fall.

I think they took a little break this summer.

But you sign up for a lesson and you'll go to the Y, go into the pool area, they'll hold the log.

So to start, they'll hold the log.

We'll talk you through how...

Get three core things of learning quick feet balance eyes on the other end So never stop moving your feet keep your arms out like you're on a balance beam but in front and behind and then

just a Gymnastic people are like really really good at this.

I'm really liking the spoken music

You know I can see me doing though You know I can see me doing at the crock if I come out there for a lesson like slip it off in my face hitting the log

That is so unlikely because gravity is gonna take you for a swim and you have to be good with that core to stay over the log

That is why he's gonna hit the log.

Why do you keep bringing up my core, Katie?

Because it is a core part of log, right?

Yeah, enough from you, Katie.

Katie Burr.

She's very smart.

Rollio Library event in Howard this weekend, July 12th.

Thanks so much.

This is great.

It's gonna

be fun.

Thanks for

having me.

Love to watch you.

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That was so much fun having Katie Burke here the three Rivers roll the old lot grilling event in Howard coming up this weekend Todd great job lighting that up Joe vertigin here actually says he's gonna try to compete

Every

city said

every other athletic event there is

when pigs fly exactly Joe

vert again and Scott Hanson Scott Hanson I just say that name man I just think about the days back at WIR coming down there on those Thursday nights or whatever it was great times man the red white and blue series and all the different things and man you were a competitor five time WIR champion people if you're not from this or maybe people from this look with this way people from this area

who haven't seen racing in other areas, might not understand the competitiveness and the quality of the drivers in the cars that take to the track at WIR.

Oh, I'm telling you, there was so many champions and stuff, Quickie and Watson and Trickles, and lots of good guys came through that race track.

And that's the thing, you know, everything was the self, the self, the self.

And sometimes these guys from the South would come up and they'd be like, holy crap.

This northern boy is no hotter ride.

Oh, yeah.

Mark Martin, who did the forward for the WIR book, he says WIR is genuinely one of his favorite tracks he's ever seen.

And Scott, he was one of the first Green Bay champion from there.

There have been two others, Mark Schrader in 96 and Chad Butts last year, who's actually from Howard, but Scott won five in a row.

And sometimes that didn't sit real well with the Dutch mafia.

He didn't have that Fox Valley zip code, Scott.

You know what I'm talking

about, right?

I hear you there.

Michigan people didn't enjoy.

Well, the thing is, people,

it was one of

those things, though, too, where it was like, even like, what's his name?

Kenceth.

Oh,

man.

Yeah.

Has told me that he had some animosity when he started winning down there as well.

Yeah.

It was a tough.

Stuff for our extract to win at, you know, just because of the people that came in there, you know, I mean, everybody back then had the same equipment, good equipment, you know, so you just had to hustle your way through whatever it took.

Scott, we're talking about racing, and it was a big deal when I was in high school.

I mean, everybody went and-

Here's the regular, 141.

Right.

Okay.

Man talked to rivers and then I think it maybe took a little bit of a lull or maybe just, there's just a lot more to do today than there was.

30, 40 years ago.

Joe and I were just talking.

We don't understand why it's dropping off.

There's a lot of streaming and stuff going on.

A lot of people sitting home watching it in the garage nowadays.

Maybe a lot of us are just getting older and the car guys are going away.

But it's exciting.

What I'm saying is, what would it take to get people back to that?

Because I think it is more competitive.

There's more outdoor concerts.

There's log rolling things.

There's just a lot to do on a Saturday night, Wednesday night.

in this community.

I think there's more than there was years ago, but I mean, does it take somebody like you, a five-time champion, was it more the race or was it more you that they came out to see?

I'd like to think it was

me.

I think it was you, but also your rivals.

There were like hardcore rivalries back then.

You know, what we did back when we raced is we not only raced hard,

we sat with the fans for hours and hours and hours and invested time with them.

You know, that was, that was as much as the race ever was.

People came out of the grandstands, we sat there, I mean, many times till the sun came up.

And they just- He had a

great sponsor and Budweiser too.

A really good one.

That's a great story in itself, Scott.

How he got the Budweiser sponsorship, that's a story.

Well, they called me, you know, they wanted to go with Terry Baldry.

It's

another legendary name.

Oh, I'm telling you.

They went right down the line.

They took the guy who won the championship was Baldry.

It was my first year down there.

I run second.

Baldry family, I don't know if they even drank.

They got a Pepsi deal.

And they said, we're going to go with the Pepsi.

And I don't think they had a clue what they passed up on.

Because Jimmy Dean and the Budweiser guys.

Dean, boys.

They invested a lot in me and we had such a good time.

Well, you paid up

for them.

Cause I'll tell you

what, that Budweiser car was on TV and in the papers an awful lot.

Yeah.

And they did pretty well too.

So those are

great guys.

Yeah.

That

was, I go back to Rustin, the major.

Yeah.

But you know, one of the things I'll do back in your days, that was such an event.

That was such a local event was to come out to the track on those.

I swear almost everywhere.

Well, Joe, when you were my intern, we did a live shot every week.

there, didn't it?

Yeah, it was it was a big deal.

And like I said, there was no internet back then.

Nobody had cell phones.

You had to be there.

There was

online streaming of races.

And back to his Budweiser thing.

The half of that was actually Anheuser-Busch, right,

Scott?

Yep, right from the.

And I

tell you, my college dorm, when I moved in the fall of 87, it was Bud like this, but Mackenzie that I mean, they were very generous with oh my gosh, it was a it was a great sponsorship put it that way.

I had to be

the D.D.

of Spuds McKinsey won

Halloween or something.

I remember him being in your pit one time,

the actual dog.

What

was it like when you went to NASCAR the bigger time, I guess you want to call it, but what was that like with those people?

Different.

It's politically correct I was not.

My mouth got me in too much trouble and I enjoyed, like I just told you, I enjoyed when you were done racing, you had fun with the people and this and that.

And you had to watch so much of your P's and Q's.

And I just didn't, I'm sorry to say, but I didn't fit in.

A little

more corporate.

A lot more corporate.

And I guess if I'd have shut up, I'd have been a little higher up the ladder.

But

I think every kid though likes racing, right?

I mean, I don't

know.

would like to think that.

So what would your advice be to get into it?

Because I think that's.

I don't

know, I think

it's very cool.

Find a rich grandpa is the only way to do it.

Is that deterrent right now?

If you don't have money, Joe and I were just talking, you go through the truck and the Xfinity series, there aren't a half a dozen guys getting actual paid.

They bring the money into that deal and they gotta siphon their money out of the sponsorship they bring in is how they're making their money to do this.

Wow.

Yeah, it's gotten so...

Money-oriented

so before Scott went to NASCAR.

He had the luxury in the late 80s early 90s He made a living racing short track

cars

like what race caught through the ASA series Art go which he was rookie of the year He was a five-time winner at the Milwaukee mile as well, which is pretty amazing It is I mean but guys could make a living running short tracks before he hitched up with Kenny Schrader and did the NASCAR thing You can't make a living running short tracks anymore.

It's the class have gotten so high and the pay hasn't

not matched it.

It's just not feasible anymore.

I thought I was doing good in Wisconsin, racing for Jerry Gunnerman and Donnie Finetti and the Baker guys.

Until I went to work for Kenny Schrader, who ran NASCAR for 25 years.

That's when I started making money.

I had no clue that those guys were getting what they were getting.

And Kenny put me on a whole different level and that's what made me

As far as making it, that's where

you say he was paid

150 cases of beer one time.

Oh, it's more than that wasn't it?

How much beer did you get from them?

That was part of the sponsorship deal wasn't it?

We got a pallet a week And went through it

But the competitiveness, is it still there in these tracks?

Because the thing is, and I know there was the different factions down there, I remember when I first came to Green Bay, I think it was J.J.

Smiths was one of the big guys.

Yeah, hero.

J.J.

was my hero.

When I started going, I started out on dirt track.

And I watched J.J.

and Jerry Smith and Medina and Paul Rodriguez.

Those guys.

Those were racers.

Yeah, they sat in there and they just pulled their way around there and you know today It's you know luxury riding around.

Well,

that's what I mean It's so similar just you know race the doors off with each other and then but then they'd sit around the pits and talk if somebody needed a

bar

Crescent wrench or a socket or something they would give it to him But on the track there was no, you

know, it was wide open competitive Yes, and like you said if you slipped and somebody made a mistake get into each other somebody got wrecked You got out you said, okay

Don't do that or watch how you do this.

And they jumped right in and helped you fix

what you were doing.

I got to hear one dick trickle story.

Did he really have a cigarette lighter in his car?

Oh, he had a cigarette lighter.

He had packs of cigarettes packed in.

He was...

a one of a kind that you'll just, you'll never see again, ever in any racing era.

Telling the story about when you decided it was around 83, 83 or 82, Scott ditched the dirt and went pavement full time and Dick Trickle kind of helped you out.

Telling

that story.

I called him up one day and I said, Hey, can I, what are the chances you'd let me come over and talk me through some of the setups of some of that?

And he's like,

Here's my address.

See you there on Tuesday.

We took a I got a 12 pack of paps drove over there and He had a setup book that was staying near a foot thick on his bench and we started drinking I said, okay, I'd like to know about this racetrack He says there's the book send your kid over there Paper and pencil and write down anything you want to know out of that book

Wow,

and and that that escalated my career so fast overnight, you know, I mean

Here it is, the shocks, the springs, the tires, everything.

You know, where it takes years to learn that.

Pretty confident guy, but pretty generous, right?

To just share that with you.

He must have saw something in you as well.

Well, that, and he was, he would rather keep you straight on the racetrack than you out there flipping flopping and wrecking and stuff like that.

Right, right, right.

You know, it took me a long time.

This is a quick story with Trickle.

He was the man.

So he came in, he never hot lap, he was quick time.

So finally one day we had it right.

We'll go there, I got quick time, he was second.

I won the dash, he was second.

I won the 25 lap feature, he was second.

We went to the bar afterwards, he came up to me, he says, man, I gotta give you so much more credit than, he says, you've come a long way.

He said, but not only that, you can really drive.

And I'm like.

Well, thanks.

He says, I have not seen anybody drive a car that out of control.

And he worked on me.

I went home.

I changed everything in that car.

I stayed up till four in the morning and come back to the race the next day.

The big race, 30 laps.

I think he was lapping me because he talked me.

Right?

He was so smart.

He talked me right out of everything I had done.

But he didn't just lap me.

He pulled up alongside me.

I think we ran side by side for two or three laps until I looked over and he gave me the all.

No kidding.

See you later.

That's unbelievable.

That's what happened.

It was crazy.

But he was good.

He was good at everything he did.

I guess.

Well, you said one of the biggest changes was the cost.

Why the costs are so high now versus 30 years ago?

Is it the the equipment?

Is it

it's the equipment and we don't None of us understand why you know, we built a car for right $30,000 now.

I just told Joe a new ferry cars $125,000 of fury

cars like the super late model that that Chad butts races on Thursday nights, for example, okay That's not cheap to race for weekly.

I mean, that's a very very cost

and I don't know what the

pay is to win now it is but it did probably a thousand

all right so then keep pace with that

okay i got

it yep wow

yeah it was 400 to win when i would win they might get a thousand now and

get the car went from 30 to 120 yeah and that i

and they're the same basic part right yeah a hub is the

hub

Was there anything different?

And obviously everybody's got different skills, different skill levels of whatever before we go to a break here.

But when you would race some of those other guys, even like when Bobby Allison came to the track and some of these Mark Martin, these, these different guys, when they came there, was there anything different where you say, okay, that separates him from us?

Well, they did it every day.

They did it every day, every day, every day.

And then they ran four or 500 mile races.

So they just got a feel.

They got a look.

They got to listen to that.

It was anything different.

No, it was just their amount of time in the vehicle.

I think.

Yeah.

But it's one of those things that's like that with all sports, like a golfer or something, same thing.

You know, some guy that grows up in Arizona, Florida versus Wisconsin who wants to be a golfer.

Oh, yeah.

You know, we learned so much, you know, from going down south.

If I wasn't racing.

Carl Wagner was a huge mentor of mine.

He would send us down south, you know, with engines and stuff for these guys.

Carl was a noted engine builder in Wisconsin.

And the year they came out with the restrictor plates, Bobby Allison won the 500 because of something they had done.

where they tapered the gasket on the restrictor plate.

Well, we did restrictor plates.

We did the same thing.

We won 13 out of 16 races

up here.

You learned.

heard Joe's dad did something illegal one time with your tires.

Is that true?

We're

going to send her

a quick

break.

Legendary Scott Hansen and Joe Verde get in the house.

Back up there.

you

Smoke was coming from out of the back when I started to gain on that Cadillac.

Knew it could catch him.

I thought a good pass.

Don't you know, by then we'd be low on gas.

Hey, welcome back.

Mine of the mirror here.

We've got a great, great couple of great guests.

Joe Vernegan and Scott Hansen.

Scott legendary racer.

And Joe, of course, a legendary author of racing and legendary announcer.

How many, we got

five gigs this week or something, Joe?

Announcing three nights and five days tonight.

Got to go back home and do Eagle River if it doesn't rain.

And then Seymour from

Friday and 141 Speedway Saturday.

Good for

you,

man.

Got a question here from Todd, the period.

Hey, Scott, how prevalent is knowingly cheating in NASCAR racing?

It takes place.

And don't you don't

think it doesn't,

you know, they've gotten so smart, you know, they're, if they cheat, they do five things.

to give the official something to catch so that they don't look at the ones that they really matter.

But it happens, trust me.

Oh yeah.

There's so much money involved in all of them, huh?

Isn't that mind boggling?

Oh God.

A cup deal today is just, I think it's one big reason Stewart got out of it because they said this car was going to be

the fix all for the owners and everything, and it turned out to be just the opposite of what they caused.

No.

What's one of those things though too?

It's like, you know, every couple of years, okay, Chevy's got this something, Ford's got this something, Toyota's got this something.

It's like there's such a competitiveness amongst the engineering of these cars now, isn't

it?

Tense of a second is what they're looking for.

They're not looking for this

and that.

Tense of a second.

There's more engineers in a pit crew than there are workers for the car.

You know, you go to a race, a NASCAR race.

I was just in Phoenix here last fall.

There's a table.

Got to be eight engineers all on computers, all looking at different parts of the car, different things.

If you're an engineer, you can make it NASCAR.

Well, even, you know, that's the thing.

We've got the one kid from the UP that.

was made a big time for juniors car, didn't he?

Oh, Greg Ives.

Yeah.

And I mean, you know, normally, or back in the day, you'd be, oh, this guy is a grease monkey and he's, you know, good with cars.

You know, he's Michigan tech mechanical engineering degrees.

And even I

was watching the Chicago race the other day and one of the cars stalled out and they were trying to pull out the computer from the car to bring it into the shop and they just plug it in now for the whole thing.

Yeah.

So Scott, with that said, though, with the eight engineers and this team of mechanics, like, where does the driver come in?

Yeah, you're flying a spaceship.

I mean, you've got an unbelievably piece of equipment that you're in control.

They all

sit in these simulators

nowadays, and that's how they learn to race.

That's how you train that.

mean, that simulator time is so key.

Well,

years ago, Dick Trickle just raced.

He never, did you ever see Dick Trickle never practice?

He would just race, you know.

William Byron, who was as good as they come in the NASCAR world.

I don't think he did all of his video racing and stuff.

That's how he got his ride is unreal

through the

video

games.

I know.

We were just talking about this morning about the video games.

It's just, it's just a different way of learning, right?

I mean, we,

it is, you know, and the cars are, you know, you don't know what you don't know, right?

Right.

When

these kids come in, you know, they're, they sit in these simulators and like I said, these engineers, they set that car up.

You get the exact feeling sitting in that simulator as you do on a race.

They got the cracks in the racetrack on these simulators.

They got the

bumps.

They've got everything down to the thousands.

We didn't have that when you started.

I couldn't say simulator.

They didn't have simulators.

What year did you start?

Got 1975?

About that time, huh?

Did you

peer?

Deep here, Wisconsin did six or seven years of dirt track off and on, not nothing full time.

Couldn't afford it.

Well,

yeah, you have to have a

job, right?

His break actually came meeting a guy to car wash by the name of Steve Marlar and tell him that story.

Yeah, every Sunday morning, we'd go wash the car up here on Fisk and Mason Street.

And one Sunday morning, Steve Marlar owned an insurance company.

Come walk in and he says, what's it gonna take for you to stay out of this car wash?

He said, I love, this is my time away to come in and wash my Mercedes every Sunday.

And the kid with me said, just buy us an asphalt car.

And he says, really?

And I'm like, yeah, Richie Waters.

Oh, sure.

You

know, good as they come.

Big name, yeah.

Buy us an asphalt car.

Steve sat there for about 10 seconds.

He says, my office is right next door.

Be there at nine o'clock tomorrow morning.

We were there.

You

gotta be kidding

me.

And the rest is history.

That's

unbelievable.

Right place, right time.

So with all those years, all those races, all those awards, she'd been asked this a million times, but you got a favorite?

My Milwaukee races and my Phoenix races are probably the most prestigious ones and the who of who's who were always

those.

It was fun to go out there and beat the best.

I didn't race against 20 of the same guys.

We did, we chased money races.

So back in the day, there was 40, 50 guys at every race.

And we just, we went coast to coast, border to border.

I know you were too busy to notice this, but when I worked in Arizona, I used to cover the race at PIR.

International Raceway.

I just want to say on those really hot days, the scenery was really nice.

Like I said,

you're Charles

Groll, I'm sure.

Charles Groll the

racing.

Scott Hansen, thank you so very much, man.

It is an honor to have you here.

enjoyed covering you for all those years and it's great to sit here and talk.

Thanks

for having me.

Then really, thanks for what you did for that whole industry, right?

Because we talk about how, you know, every industry has ebb and flows, but I mean, you were part of the flow on that.

Had a blast

doing it and just can't wait to get back and just keep watching these guys evolve and what they're doing today.

Okay, one last thing about PIR on some of those races, they'd have the, I mean, Sunday at Phoenix International Raceway, a thunderly pounding thing.

Ladies and Haltertops, get in half price.

Sure story.

Scott Hadsett, thanks so much for being here, buddy.

Any time, boys.

Joe, also, you've been bringing us such great guests.

Please

keep it going.

I'll work on Jerry Munster next.

Thank you.

Tell everybody about your books.

Oh, well jovertigan.com got a lot of racing books, True Crime, The Reformatory, and we got the Monfile Six book coming out in December.

Stay tuned.

How's that coming

along, Joe?

It's coming along well.

In fact, from here, I'm going to have lunch with a couple of

People that worked at the mail, we're gonna do some interviews for the book, but it's coming very quick.

We're setting up a book signing tour in December at a lot of locations in and around Green Bay, so.

I want this show to be your first interview before it comes out.

You got it.

Don't play, I said hello.

I will.

Thank you guys.

Thank you so much.

We're gonna set a quick break.

Back up this.

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim

Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Jim has to take off to go teach his class.

Headlines with the press times.

John Kramer into house.

We're talking about something very cool.

But first, I want to say once again, thanks to Joe vertigo and Scott Hansen, legendary stock car racer and Joe, of course, who's done so much to promote stock car racing in the area.

It's absolutely unbelievable.

They were just fantastic to have on.

Katie Burke, three rivers, rollio, log growing event in Howard taking place this weekend.

That sounds so cool.

I'm challenging John Kramer.

He and I to do that.

Todd, who would you put your money on?

Absolutely, John is who I. Mino?

John I

used to

able to ride a unicycle.

Did you really?

Yeah, I was that nerdy kid

Well, you've got some very special guests in here for headlines of the press times.

It's the monk community events taking place Manu and to welcome.

Thank you.

It's pleasure to be here.

Great

to have you

What have you got going on?

Well, most recently, just a couple of weeks ago, John was at one of our events where it was our first year collaborating with On Broadway.

My passion foundation is the nonprofit's name for the Mung Organization that we are board members of.

And we just love being able to bring this event to the community.

for free, which is amazing.

And so with the right collaborations and resources, we were able to create this event that actually exceeded our expectation.

The weather was not the greatest, but people still showed up, stayed through the rain, danced in the rain and had a great time.

The weather has been the greatest for any events this summer.

It's just crazy, isn't it?

It rained a lot.

Unbelievable.

You know, it's so admirable, though, with you folks come over.

What, 50 years now probably?

Yes, 50 years.

From Southeast Asia.

And what you've established in communities and how strong you have all stayed together to support one another, to help one another, to the way you have all thrived.

It's a pretty amazing American story, wouldn't you say?

I mean, you have to be proud of it.

I would definitely say so.

I mean, in 50 years, we've got senators, mayors, lawyers, doctors, and then local...

business professionals in the area here as well too.

And that's a great accomplishment in 50 years.

Do they ever talk, your parents ever talk about, you know, how cool you guys have it now?

Maybe your kids have it versus what it was like when they first came over and dealing with this weather and all the different things.

Oh yeah, they're always talking about high expectations, right?

Everyone's dream is for their kid to be a doctor or lawyer.

And you know, there's a lot.

to just be very thankful for, you know, we're always happy to have the support of our elders and to have them kind of just help push us so that we can continue to be the best that we can be here.

You're talking about your event that you had.

Talk a little bit about that.

Yeah, so it was a collaboration that kind of started last summer.

Fatma from on Broadway, she actually reached out to my dance academy to come perform as a placeholder.

And so we came to perform at the LaVette concert series.

And then from there, they wanted to hear community input.

How can we engage the community more, especially at, you know, the Monk communities or other communities that we can reach out to, to bring everyone together, especially for events that are amazing like this, where they're free, it's in an open space.

using, you know

the Lutch Park there that you know a lot of people can have access to in the middle of the city and so it was great to have them see something in us in our organization that we have connections with the monk community to be able to bring them out and to be able to um voice at the tables which artists could really bring the community together and so um it started a year ago and then with the team they asked us to join the planning committee we were able to suggest and recommend artists in the monk

that we thought could really bring people out.

And we were so happy that they took a chance on us and really just, you know, it was our first year.

So we didn't know what to really expect.

We didn't want to over promise anything, but we're very grateful for this partnership with on Broadway that they believed in us and supports us.

And we did it.

And, you know, it was, I believe when we met last, there was over like 500, 600 people that showed up for this one.

That's

awesome.

It was awesome.

Yeah.

How is it taking the culture?

Moving it forward.

I mean you're similar now.

You're you know, you're like I said, you're just a guy lives in Bellevue But you know what I mean to make sure that the young coming up don't lose the traditions

It's it's very special.

I mean I was born in a refugee camp.

So I was a month old Came to the United States lived in Chicago the most diverse city ever and then the early 90s move to Green Bay You saw it was very different at the time, but I called myself a lifelong Green Bay

Right.

No, you know, and I don't see myself moving out of here.

We always joke at 13, 14, as soon as I hit 18, I'm gone.

You know, this town is too small for me.

But the longer that we stay here, the more you take pride in belonging and being a part of the community.

And I think with this event here, it did a lot because a lot of our local entertainers for the event was all local people within 20, 30 miles and to see the talent that we have here.

And again, this is on an entertainment level, but the professionals that we have in the area that have said

I'm making Northeast Wisconsin my house.

This is where I belong now.

For myself, I'm a realtor and I love it.

Every time I get to help someone buy a house and stay in Northeast Wisconsin, I know they're going to be contributing good contributing members to society as well.

Do you ever talk with your parents or did you talk about that?

Or did they not want to talk about the, as my parents, you say about Italy, the old country.

My dad loves it.

He was 18.

So I mean, for him coming in at 18, not knowing what to do, getting his technical degree, working in Chicago.

And so I moved here to Green Bay and worked for the community as a community relations person for the Old Monk Center of Green Bay.

He loved everything about it.

Then he eventually left and started his own business.

So he wants to talk about the progression of what happens in the 45 years he's

been

here.

It's very special to hear them talk about it.

I now have kids of my own and to try to tell them, hey, there's more to it than just go to school, get your degree and work.

There's a legacy of the hard work of what your family and ancestors have done.

What I want to know is how did the Hmong community get so good at volleyball?

How did that... So I originally met her at the Hmong New Year at...

Edison

yeah, so

you're a teacher at Lombardy, correct?

Yes.

Yep.

My day job is an educator So I currently work at Lombardy Middle School and I love it there The Green Bay School District has done wonders to support me and all the extra things I do I hope to advise the Asian clubs and from that I was able to work with the district to host the Hmong New Year's for the last four years and so it started very small just you know where I can give impact in my classroom and then as students hear about it

They're like, Mrs. Vang, can you do one year for us too?

Can you come over here and help us too?

Because they all...

crave that, you know, they want to know about their identity.

They want to feel a sense of belonging.

And so to have my principals and the district be able to support me and my vision and to continue to help me grow that vision, to become something this big, it's been amazing.

And so last year, we were able to host Mung New Year at the biggest middle school, which is Addison Middle School here.

And it was great.

We had over a thousand people that showed up.

Wow.

Yeah.

For just one day, John came in, was amazing, took pictures too.

And we were kind of

scattered a little bit because there was two floors of events and so as people kind of it's free-flowing but we had cornhole we had volleyball we had dance performances

We had a documentary specialist called Ning Nao, who actually went to Southeast Asia to do studies and research about monk instruments.

And we watched his video that he created.

It was just an all around great day.

And we just had a blast, you know, to hear everyone enjoyed it and bringing the community together just makes a smile.

And so it's great.

I think the best part about that event was

our mom kids don't really know.

I always tell my sons, if you don't know why we're here, then you've got some history.

Yeah, that's what I was kind of asking a little bit earlier.

Are they interested?

Do they want to know?

Yes, yeah.

I think most recently, one of our programming sets in the works is...

among language course so we're seeing what's already out there so that we don't have to start something from scratch because some of my students are saying they want to learn their language because they want to be able to help translate you know and they want to be able to help do things and to remember you know like the roots and all and so um we're really excited to hear the feedback from the community and to create something that's meaningful for them and so we're hoping that we can continue to create things that will help our youth stay connected and interested and engage.

Do you I mean

Do you sugarcoat it or do you let him know how horrible it was at the fall of, you know, 1975, the United States left and the North Vietnamese took over and pretty much wanted to, they wanted to annihilate the Hmong, didn't they?

They pretty much did.

And I, it was telling someone earlier, um, it's stuff that's not taught in books.

Right.

That's what

mean.

I mean, it's,

it's brutal.

I moved here from Chicago in the early nineties.

and there was a big monk population, but no one really understood who the monk

was here, right?

Right, exactly.

Right.

The Vietnam vets knew.

Yeah, the veterans knew.

The Vietnam vets knew, and they had all the respect in the world up to hear that.

As a kid, 12, 13-year-old walking down the streets and having a Vietnam veteran come up to you and say, hey, thank your family for what you did, or I would still not be here myself.

That's awesome.

That was very powerful.

But I think in our society, too, as time goes by, I have two boys, they're 22 and 20 right now.

they don't know anything else besides what

everybody else knows.

So it's very important.

But that's, I think it is because I think we as all Americans need to do more to let people know exactly why you're here, why you came here, why you had to leave your country.

I mean, you were forced out or you would have been killed and what it took for your parents and your grandparents for them somehow to persevere

to escape and for you to be sitting right here and for your kids to be sitting where they are and all these kids at Edison or whatever.

It's an amazing story, a perseverance.

Imagine leaving your home with nothing but the clothes on your back.

Nothing.

It's just- And

imagine being chased, literally chased through the jungles for weeks and months on end.

It's

impossible

for us

to- Us to realize it.

To conceptualize it and to understand what a people has gone through.

And for what you did and-

I have some of my Vietnam vets say one of the worst things ever as far as when we left Vietnam the way we did was that we abandoned in some ways the monk and and some of the ones that other ones that have helped us that was that that's a black mark against the United States at the time and that's why I know so many Vietnam vets have done whatever they can in you know in more modern times or everyone I call it to try to show their respect towards the monk and and

to a man, whenever I talk about them, they can tell a story about, you know, a helicopter that was shot down or something.

And they were thinking they were just an NVA territory and they were done for.

And all of a sudden, a monk patrol would show up and take them and hide them for safety until a Lerp unit would come and find them.

I think the part that most people don't know is you're asking for mong men, but...

These are among teenagers, 13, 14, 15-year-olds that were out there rescuing people.

So there's a lot of PTSD

that still

goes

because of that.

And tough issues that are around because of that.

I'll bet.

We got a text here, such a great event at Edison.

I got to briefly explain to a guy who was up from Plymouth to throw bags about diversity in Green Bay Area Public Schools.

Okay, Brian, but one of those events, you know what it was kind of John another another event You covered was out at Oh nighta correct where they're having they reminded me of the same things as far as with the dance and the young kids in the culture and Making sure that stays alive with the young.

I think that was very cool But I thought both events were very similar didn't you John in covering a both?

Yeah, the the oh night of pow wow and I'm waiting to hear confirmation from those folks because they should be here next week Okay, cool.

What a what an amazing event

If you live here in the area and have never had a chance to get out there, you know, find out what it is next year and and check it out.

Absolutely.

If you can do one thing for me, just confirm that I have a really bad cold.

So when I weasel out of the corporate event tomorrow, there's

a reason why I'm sitting so far away from you and you smell like a jar of vixen.

He's just trying to get out of the corporate event tomorrow.

Chris is probably listening my editor.

So just.

Confirm that I have a really bad cold.

He looks fine, Chris.

He's fine.

I'm dying here.

We think his voice sounds great

for radio.

Yeah,

yeah.

Manu and two, can you stick around?

Definitely.

I'll stand back with more right after this.

Hey

welcome back Got a ill John Kramer here headlines of the press times Manu and to from the mung community events You guys were talking about the community of bringing everybody together like that.

Did you ever talk about with your parents that?

You almost had to do that for support back in the day, because like I said, my family moved over from Italy and other families moved over from like, you know, Germany or wherever.

They all lived kind of together because this strange new world, they needed that support in a lot of ways.

Do your families talk about that?

Oh yeah, Hmong people are very family oriented where they stay with their clans a lot and sometimes when you know someone goes somewhere and say hey there's job opportunities it's great over here then the whole clan moves over you know and like they all go together as a unit.

Back in Laos and Thailand, you know, people stay based on their clans and then you would go, this is the villages of the Vings or this is the villages of the Yangs and stuff like that.

So as we came here, you started seeing that and, you know, being a realtor, I hear people, there's more extended families living together now.

Yeah.

I mean.

When I came here in the 90s, you mean it was my grandpa and my uncles and then their kids and maybe another cousin somewhere So if it was all family-based

I was working with a veterans group out at Appleton and they were pushing hard to try to get veterans rights For the mong that fought for our country.

Is that still going on to you guys now?

I Know there's still pushes for it.

Okay.

I think part of it is as that property has gotten older

and there's not that

much

right

voice anymore.

Yeah, but I think that's important.

I mean, they gave their lives for our country.

I mean, that's, you know, to help our servicemen, I think that's an important aspect.

I really and truly do.

So I hope that goes through somehow.

That definitely.

By the way, you know what you guys got to get, John?

I'll tell you what you got to get, John.

When I went, when my clients, my monk clients in Appleton, okay, had a bad cold and I walked in one day.

and they were cooking something, and everything cleared up.

My sinuses cleared, my throat cleared, everything cleared, and they gave me some of that sauce.

It's like, it almost looks like chili peppers.

And I put that in chili.

And that, like, cured me.

So if you guys have that, it's like chilly flakes, it's so hot, it's incredible, but it will clear you up, John, like you can't believe.

I need something.

I'm dying here.

I might have some upstairs.

I'll go try to get yourself.

Isn't it ironic we have the Lysol wipes right in there?

Just give that to John as a parting gift.

He's

blowing his nose with them.

Exactly.

John, you've been doing great stuff with the press times.

I mean, they've got you busy.

You've been really...

Going all over the place.

Yeah.

Um, so this weekend, um, talking to some of the Holstein royalty.

So yeah, gonna meet them out at a local farm and do a little interview with the queen of Holsteins and her court.

So,

but I mean, you seem to really be enjoying this.

I mean, you start out, you know,

as a photographer, as an intern or whatever, now you're writing, you're doing everything, you got all the, you know, you got the cool aspect it seems like with the paper.

Well, what I try to do is find stuff that interests me before I get assigned stuff that doesn't.

Right.

So.

Welcome to the media.

Yeah, I try to find things that are basically interest me or are fun or just fun to photograph or video rather than

being stuck with something.

Don't go to city council meetings and things

like that.

She knows I like the warm feel good stories.

So I'm fortunate word that that's where she usually.

Okay, you got to get back to something you mentioned.

You mentioned about why are they so good in volleyball?

We didn't get the full answer on that one.

We didn't.

Seriously.

So I was at the New Year event, they had volleyball going on and then the concert, they had volleyball going on.

And these kids can get in the air.

I mean, it's crazy.

How did volleyball

get so involved with the monk community.

How'd that?

Oh, I'll let Tulan talk about that because he does a lot of my volleyball coronations.

For me on a personal story, I started at 13, you know, just I grew up in Chicago and it was along the beach.

You see people playing all the time.

But in our community, I think people just automatically stereotypically put you with soccer.

And there was just guys like, I was like, I can't run all day.

But I think in Asia, volleyball is also very popular.

So as we came over, it just started going through the generations, but it became more coordinated.

I mean, again, I started at 13, I finally stopped playing at 40 because my body wouldn't let me do it anymore.

But coordination and passing on what you know, teaching.

The next generation and I think it's kind of kind of it's kind of like the family thing as well too, right?

You want to pass on your legacy to your next generation?

So at the Monday or the David Levitt production I had my nephew help me run it, you know And it was very I had a lot of pride because I knew that it was okay I'm passing on to my nephew teaching and how to be organizational and stuff like that But he got back and he just had one request was can I just take a picture with David Yang, you know?

the entertainer.

But I think it just was something that we just always just did and kept passing on.

And as you start doing more, it becomes more organized and more competitive.

So the skills really.

What is the major sport?

What would be the, because when you consider yourself, Thailand or Laos?

I could serve myself more tight.

I'm tight.

Okay.

Cause I was born there, but I'm more because soccer's huge there, isn't it?

Soccer is everything.

Yeah.

I mean, that's huge.

I mean, but I, again, I grew up in America.

So what am

Sitting in

the Packard chair.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, I'll tell you what, whenever you guys have other events coming up, please let us know.

We'd love to promote this as much as humanly possible.

One thing I wanted to ask, have you, do you know about that?

What's the flower garden outside of Denmark?

Is it a community flower garden?

run by a group of mungs right along the highway there.

You ever stop there?

I've always wanted to stop in because their flowers are unbelievable.

I think they do farmers market.

Oh, is that the farmers market?

Oh, they don't sell them there then, huh?

Oh, they grow them there and then bring them down here because they're unbelievable.

Oh, that's beautiful.

I just drove by that the other time and it's like, oh my God, this is unbelievable.

Where is it?

Just outside of Denmark.

Between here and Denmark.

I don't even know what highway that is.

Not 41.

It's the other one.

It's

like, if you went by Twin Oaks Golf Course, whatever that's on.

I'll look for that.

OK.

Please

do.

There's your next story that you can do before

somebody assigns it.

I'm serious, John.

You got to check that out.

They're unbelievable.

It's really, really cool.

I'll find it.

All right.

How come there's not a good Hmong restaurant here in

town?

It's growing.

We've

got four or five of them now right across the street.

There are Asia Fusion Cafe, Arkandeli, Fo One.

and foot lodge.

It's growing.

You

know, it's

amazing.

Seven years ago, you had hardly none.

And then

what do you consider the best one?

Oh, I go to all of them.

He's got stock in all of them.

Hey, it's great having you guys here.

John, thanks for bringing them.

This wonderful Manu and to the monk community events.

Anytime you have something coming on, we'd love to have you back on.

Thank

you.

John, I got nothing.

John, stop breathing in my studio.

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Now back to Mino and the Mayor, here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much very special.

Thanks for John Kramer and my you and two from the monk community events joining us now We've got Audrey Anna Vanderleest the marking director for the Oshkosh Marriott Waterfront Hotel and Convention Center and chef Lauren Rue Hello How are you good?

How

are

you good?

Thanks for having us.

Yeah.

Well, I'm not very good Why is that because I was all excited about this menu?

Okay, and let's look at some of these great things you have in your menu and you've said you've changed it now We have because I had like three things.

I want to come down an order right away What were those tell me about them?

Well, I'll be honest with you at the waterfront burger itself sounded really good.

Okay, it's a big one I thought that I wanted to try the smoked schnitzel.

I want to take my son down He's big and he lived in Prague and he's big into schnitzel and through Germany I want to try that and I wanted to try the I didn't even know what it would how to pronounce exactly the steak up a plop a plop

I want to try the

steak.

Apoie.

Well, our new steak, so we have a wonderful partnership with Barry Mollat from Mollat in Green Bay here.

Mollat meat.

See, I'm Mollat distributing.

All of our beef is actually now coming from the state of Wisconsin.

So born, bred, and butchered.

So 94% of all cattle farms in the state are dairy farms.

So only 6% are for beef consumption.

And we're fortunate enough to work with Barry.

He produces a great product for us.

So we're using some beautiful filet from Barry.

We're doing a chimichurri.

marinated skirt steak, which is fantastic.

It's in a skirt steak sandwich.

We're also serving it as an entree with some grilled zucchini and some some fingerling potatoes.

Really delicious.

Nice.

Do you know which county in Wisconsin has more cows than people?

Oh, we're going to play a little quiz.

This is

our

trivia question this morning.

Trivia question.

I'm going to guess is it Marathon County?

No.

Okay.

You gotta have a

guess.

Are you from

Wisconsin?

Come

on, Adriana.

Oh my gosh.

I don't know.

I'm

drawing a flag.

I don't

remember.

And we didn't know this earlier this morning.

The mayor told us this.

Yeah.

Kiwani County has five cows for every human.

Interesting.

So now you know.

Now we know.

Now we

know.

You can use that one day at work.

Everybody think you're the smartest.

Let's back up just a little bit because the

This hotel's been in Oshkosh for quite some time, many, many years, but it's just kind of been taken over, remodeled, and now it's this wonderful location right on the waterfront.

And correct us right across the bridge from our

studio.

Absolutely, yeah.

Our WISO studio.

So tell us a little bit about where it's at right now as opposed to the past.

Well, we've completely rebranded into a Marriott property, so the hotel is

received a multi-million-dollar overhaul.

So really from soup to nuts, all of the rooms have been renovated, the entire Great Room Bar have been renovated.

We're going to be the only Marriott in Wisconsin with an M Club, which is for all of their titanium and ambassador clients, for those who are looking for an exceptional high-quality experience.

That's really what we're all about, is bringing that beautiful Marriott experience and then also

projecting that through the food and the ambient, you know.

environment of the restaurant.

Can I tell you that if Todd comes there or when he comes there, I guarantee I'm gonna tell you what he's gonna order.

Okay, what is it?

Spotted cow fry, walleye

sandwich.

Anything that has Spotted Cow in the menu, I'm there.

So it's cool, you know, a lot of what we tried to do with the menu is bring a lot of locality to everything that we're doing.

So we've highlighted a bunch of things with little state icons.

So using fresh cheese courage, using local beer, using local beef.

So our burger blend is a blend of chuck,

short rib brisket.

just for us from, and again, in the state of Wisconsin.

So, you know, for someone who just wants the pizza, I'm sorry, who just wants a burger, you know, the burger you can't go wrong with, whether it's a restaurant burger where we take a temperature, or we do a smash burger where it's kind of cooked to medium well, well done, but still, still juicy in the middle and beautiful.

But we're really going to be focused on pizza.

Pizza is going to be.

I got

to just one quick question for you

and then go on for

there.

What

is semolina and cornmeal crust?

Yeah, so.

Tavern style pizza is what we're really trying to accomplish.

And what I've found is in my time in Oshkosh is there's not really a lot of great pizza.

You know, you have a couple of places that have bar pies, and then everything else is your big box, dominoes, you know.

pizza hut, whatever.

So I'm really trying to bring some flair to Oshkosh with this pizza program.

And Semolina is a type of flour that is a little bit more coarse than your traditional all-purpose white flour.

It brings a really nice rigidity and texture to the crust.

And traditionally in the land of our friendly Illinois brethren, the bar pie is a

thin crust pizza that has that cornmeal dust on the bottom, really just gives a really nice crispy, really crispiness to the crust.

So there's no flop to the pizza.

You know, we're using belgioso, whole milk mozzarella.

So, you know, again, trying to do as much.

in-state local as possible.

Okay, so I have to ask, because when I grew up, our Sunday meal was polenta.

Have you

ever heard

of polenta?

For sure, of course.

So do you cook it that same way, where you stir for like an hour, because my dad would stand there and stir for like an hour till he was sweating at it, and then take it

out.

So cornmeal is, how we're using it is we're literally just dusting the base of the pizza in the cornmeal.

So it gives it a touch of texture on the crust side.

We're actually getting this beautiful new oven.

It's arriving today.

As soon as we, well, I leave here,

I'm going back to the hotel.

I'm so excited.

We have a pizza master oven coming, which is like the Cadillac of pizza oven.

Oh my God, Mino, you've always wanted to have a pizza

oven.

I know, I know.

Quiet,

Todd.

I'm working on it here.

So they're amazing pieces of equipment.

They go up to, like, 850 degrees.

It's a Stonehearth oven.

Oh, wow.

So we have the ability to not only make pizzas, but bake breads, do paninis and sandwiches in there as well.

So I'm super jacked.

It's been a long time coming to get this oven, but super excited to have the right equipment.

But really, the semolina, it starts with any traditional pizza dough recipe where you're taking hot water, yeast, sugar.

letting that bloom, then adding the semolina flour.

We actually use a little bit of bread flour and AP flour as well in our mix.

We let that proof overnight.

And then the next day, we basically roll it out in semolina and then pass it through a sheeter.

So something of one of my biggest grievances for pizza places, especially for hand toss is that the crust isn't always consistent.

There's cold spots or there's like, there's little bubbles or places where the pizza will have a little bit of dip where like the crust just

doesn't set up as well.

So by using a cheater, it's consistently the same texture every single time.

When I come there, I'm going to get the Lily Lou.

The Lily Lou.

It's named after my daughter.

She's big.

She's big on prosciutto.

So anytime you have

prosciutto on this,

prosciutto, burrata, you know, it's, it's, it's really what she loves to eat.

So the, the, the Benito is my son and he's anytime we go for pizza, he's the barbecue chicken pineapple pizza guy.

So I had to, had to give a little nod out to the kids in the menu.

They, they're.

big pizza fanatics and super excited to bring this concept to Oshkosh.

Now, I gotta be honest with you, the one thing that you got on your menu for toppings that I've never seen before on a pizza, asparagus.

Oh, that sounds really good.

Yeah.

So, you know, a lot of what the menu is, you know, we're in the Marriott, so we need to have, it can't just be pizza.

So we have a full list of bar appetizers, sandwiches, soup salads and entrees.

And, you know, for me,

really brings a little bit of uniqueness to a topping.

I love asparagus.

I think that especially coming into the season, I mean, we're right at the tail end of asparagus where we can get at the local farmer's market.

You're just seeing it kind of beginning of July tail off.

But asparagus just works really well.

We have it on our surf and turf plate as well.

So for those people looking for a unique vegetarian option in toppings, it was kind of a no-brainer.

So what does that taste like?

Is it grilled basically?

when you hit it at a really high temperature, we'll coat it in a little bit of olive oil, kosher salt, black pepper, and then just give it a char.

And then you'll finish it on the pizza.

Because the Romania sounds good.

Not a Romagna.

Romagna.

So that's actually like a very popular sandwich in Rome.

So if you go to Rome, it's a focaccia.

Roman pizza is focaccia pizza.

So they basically cook it in a pan and then they're big on their vegetables as well.

So the Romagna has pesto, roasted peppers, olives, asparagus, and slow roasted tomatoes.

So again, really trying to hit that vegetarian and give everybody else an opportunity to enjoy.

that they might not always enjoy.

So, Chef, you talk about your kids and how

they play a part in what you create, right?

For

sure.

What's your background?

What's your family life like?

Where are you in the area?

He drove up from Kohler this morning.

Oh, wow.

Not even from Oshkosh.

Thank you for that.

Oh, of course.

So I've been in Wisconsin for the last 16 years.

So I practically feel like I'm a Scotty.

All right.

I can see it.

So again, I'm originally from Illinois, which is where the tavern style pizza comes from.

I figured that by looking at the menu.

You know, again, that's why I say we're Fibs.

We're friendly Illinois brothers, right?

I don't know what else it would ever stand for.

Thank you.

You know, I moved up here.

I've been doing fine dining for the last, you know, for the first 10 years of my career.

Were you in Kohler?

Well, I worked in Kohler for five years.

I worked at the American Club.

I was the executive chef and restaurant manager.

My son

worked for about five years at, is it Tavern on the Lakes?

Tavern on Woodlakes?

Sure.

Tavern on Woodlakes.

He was fired

three times by Herb Kohler.

Oh yeah?

Yeah.

And Herb Kohler's wife told Herb to be quiet and rehire them each

time.

Mr. Kohler, I've actually had some awesome interactions with him.

I've done some tastings for him where he's been taking notes off of what you say.

So he really always respected somebody in a chef coat.

And then when you do a tasting with him and you're not in the chef coat, he does like, who are you?

What do you know?

And I'm like, Mr. Kohler, I'm the chef.

He goes, well, where's your chef coat?

So my experience in Kohler was phenomenal.

I still live there.

That was back in 2010 through 20.

2015.

After that, I went to Blue Harbor.

So I was at Blue Harbor right on the lake for five years, overseeing all food and beverage operations and culinary operations there.

And then the last five years prior to joining Scarlet Hotel Group, I was the executive chef for the Milwaukee Brewers.

So, you know, my favorite foods are hot dogs and cheeseburgers and locks and bagels and pot stickers.

So, you know, and as a kid, if you looked at like my five year old drawings, what I wanted to be when I grew up, I wanted to be a baseball player.

That was the closest thing that I could get at that time in my life.

So for the brewers team or for the organization?

For the organizations.

I oversaw culinary for concessions, sweets, tailgates, catering, restaurants.

It was a blast.

It was an amazing point in my career.

Quanty food production driven.

I had nine chefs working for me.

It was really, really fantastic at the height.

In 2020, end of 2023, we were nominated second best food in the nation for stadium food across all platforms.

So pet my own back a little bit.

I was really proud of my team and made a big impact in Milwaukee.

Really enjoyed my time there, but was itching to get back into a more, I guess you'd say, well-rounded food portfolio.

And Scarlet is giving me that opportunity to really bring some creation not only to Oshkosh, but really to the vision of

of the organization.

When they interviewed you for the job at the Brewers, did you admit that you'd been a Cubs fan?

You know, we didn't talk about that.

I actually had to do a tasting at Lambo, and I asked them to borrow a hat, because I didn't have a hat, and they gave me a packer's head, and I'm like, do you have a Lambo hat that I can try?

No, but they're a good group of dudes up there at Lambo as well, still talk to a Lambo.

Well, I gotta tell you

one thing, though.

Cause I was a sports caster for a hundred years, whatever.

And you'd go into the locker room after the game, so obviously whatever.

Those guys eat well in their post game, don't they?

You know, they eat five times a day.

It's unbelievable.

It's crazy.

They pre, a breakfast, pre-batting practice, post-batting practice, pre-game post game.

And then a spread, and then get like $300 per diem to go have a meal.

That is not a bad life.

Every club deciding a little bit different, like the, I want to say the Dodgers and the Yankees actually travel with a chef.

So, like, we wouldn't have to cater for the chef in that regard.

Oh, yeah.

You guys see these spreads.

Big market teams, you know, they can afford that.

Whereas, you know, with the Brewers, they're very analytical based.

They actually had a nutritionist who was kind of planning out all of the meals for the team and obviously very big meat and bean people and rice people.

So that's what

I do.

When you come back, I want to talk about how the community is embracing.

the changes in the restaurant and all that kind of stuff.

For sure.

And then I want to talk about getting a picture of that oven when it comes into

it.

Yeah.

Because

my note is going

to be salivating all over the place.

That is a big Mike's dream.

This oven is so amazing, I got to tell you.

Chef Lauren Rue, back after this.

From local stories to local voices, we're shining a spotlight on what matters right here in Northeast Wisconsin.

It's more than just talk.

It's about connecting with the community.

This is Mino and the Mayor.

Now, here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

This is a lot of fun.

We're talking with some great people here from a great restaurant.

And Lauren, we're going to talk a little bit more about the great things you got going on.

But first, I'm going to tell you again what

Todd is going to order for breakfast.

Also, I want to know if they're going to put Johnny juice on the

menu.

We'll talk after this show.

Todd is going to order the butter biscuit beer brought breakfast skillet.

or secret recipe, biscuits, blanket, and spotted called brats.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, it's a spotted-crow gravy.

I mean, again, we're in the state.

How can you not use the nectar of the gods?

I mean, I

hate to say this.

You might be my new favorite place in the world.

Oshkosh, Marriott, Waterfront, Hotel and Conference Center, their grand opening coming up for the restaurant, Anchor and Port.

That's coming up on the 29th, right?

It is, yeah.

High noon, correct?

Is it noon o'clock?

Very excited about that.

restaurant is just beautiful.

We have an amazing staff and really excited.

I mean, we have a whole bunch of new equipment coming in this week.

I think I mentioned that a little bit ago.

If you didn't know, I'm a little excited about it.

But no, the breakfast, you know, again, we're a full service hotel.

So whether you want breakfast, lunch or dinner, we are open.

We do have, you know,

I would consider it probably just the greatest assortment of breakfast foods that really anyone would want.

So you have your standard breakfast.

We're using Jones Dairy Farm Sausage.

We're using Newskies Bacon out of Wittenberg.

Best bacon in the world.

Shout out Tanya Newski if you're listening.

What's up?

using fresh stone cut oats from ants and mills.

We have, again, that skirt steak and eggs using that chimichurri marinated skirt steak.

And then probably my favorite thing on the menu, there's a restaurant up in Saint Germain that unfortunately closed this past season.

It's called Wolfpack Cafe, and they had the best pancakes in the world.

Their slogan was peace, love and pancakes.

And they unfortunately are retired, but I I've tried my best to replicate their pancakes as best as possible.

And they're just they're fantastic.

They're flapjack, so they're thinner than a pancake, thicker than a crepe.

They're gooey.

They're delicious.

We also have fresh Wisconsin maple syrup that you can throw on them.

And then we're basically taking fresh blueberries, making a compote out of those with a little bit of raw sugar.

They're just amazing.

When you talk about gooey and delicious, I gotta tell me about the bananas foster waffle.

Yeah, I mean, waffles are amazing.

And bananas foster is basically rum and caramel and bananas.

And it's flambéed.

to order, so it's just, it's an amazing, amazing waffle topping.

How's that?

I was gonna ask you, sorry, John.

No, go ahead.

How's the community embracing this?

As I told you before we went on the air, like, I'm excited because it's a great location.

You're right on the river, right on the water there.

Beautiful sunrises coming up over the water.

It's a great location.

we finally have something there that seems like it's going to be worthy of being there.

Yeah, you know, it's really exciting because we're just finishing our third phase of construction.

So we're just finishing our ballroom inside the hotel in our private dining spaces.

So we really haven't...

spoken to the community.

This is

really kind of our, our, our, our launch, if you will, to, to get to that, that finish line of the grand opening.

We haven't, we haven't done a lot as it relates to sharing this with the community.

It's all just been word of mouth, but very excited to start getting into some press, you know, some media coverage, really exploiting the menus.

I mean, the menus speak for themselves.

The service.

It's fun just reading this menu.

It's fun.

It's fun to write, you know, like I said,

mention the, what is it?

It's the butter biscuit beer brought breakfast skillet.

And I think we're going to switch the word skillet to bowl.

And if you look at the menu, it says

in very small print at the bottom.

Say

that three times

fast.

Right.

So, you know, it's meant to be fun and approachable.

We want people to come in and feel at home and feel really comfortable dining inside or outside on the patio.

I mean, we have an amazing patio space.

There are seven boat port or seven docks.

So, you know, anyone who's fishing on Lake Winnebago.

or on the Fox River or in the Fox Lake, can literally drop anchor at the port, pull up a table, sit at the bar, and have a full service menu, whether it's pizza or a sandwich or a snack.

And just what we say is dock, dine, and deliver.

Jim can pull up his, what kind of boat does he have?

Pontoon,

right?

Yeah, he'll pull up a

pontoon.

One thing I want to say about this is, I mean, you're high quality.

Scratch kitchen.

Whatever, everything like that.

But you're having fun with it too.

100%.

Yeah, you got to have fun.

If you're not having fun, you know, you have to provide an environment where people want to come to work every day, where people are engaged and own what they're doing.

And post COVID, a lot of cooks, a lot of the hospitality industry has kind of fallen off because it's hard work.

And it's just it's turned a lot of chefs away.

So I try to be inclusive with my team when it comes to creating menus.

I try to get their feedback from all the service staff.

You know, it's important to collaborate.

And again,

have fun with it.

Ultimately, the menu can't be too big.

I'm not a fan of a Cheesecake Factory menu where there's 40 items on the menu.

We have 12 breakfast items, and they're all fantastic.

We have 16 items on the lunch dinner menu plus pizza, and they're all really, really great items.

So no matter what you eat, we're really just excited to have the community and really start to get our name out there for people to enjoy.

Adriana, give us a little as marketing director, tell everybody why they should come down.

Well, I mean, you really can't beat the atmosphere.

If you want to come in for dining right on the water this time of year, you're really not going to get any kind of better place to go.

That's what I look forward to.

I look forward to the hot days in the summer.

We might be working on a boating partnership where you can actually rent a boat and come and dine with us.

They'll come and pick you up and you can rent a boat for a day or go to their place and rent it.

Again, that's a partnership in the works.

We're trying to get that ready for some complimentary boat tours on the day.

Well, your

location is phenomenal.

It's great.

mean, there's honestly it's in the state of Wisconsin.

You'll find many better places than that.

It's I want.

I mean, we are officially the pizza sponsor of Lake Winnebago.

They don't know it yet.

I'm saying it right now.

We're going for it.

But I also love your talk.

We're giving Todd a hard time on the spot of cow because that's his go to.

But but it's wonderful that like new skis and all these different things.

That's awesome how you're incorporating all the local, you know, endeavors.

I love

that.

We're in such a agricultural hotspot.

You know, there's so much.

good farming produce proteins.

You got to leverage what we have around us.

And there's no better place to do it.

I'm super enthused to be in Oshkosh and really try.

It comes across.

It certainly does.

I love it.

It's been awesome.

The restaurant's beautiful.

If you haven't come in, come check it out.

You can literally, like you said, dock boatside.

We're ready to have you.

Oshkosh, Marriott Waterfront, thank you both so very much.

We will definitely be there.

And when we're in Oshkosh, Todd, for our next show.

OK.

pizza Yeah, we're coming over for sure.

It's

good.

Yeah anchor import grand opening July 29th.

Thanks for being here.

Thanks guys sounds awesome We're out of time.

We are thanks everybody.

See ya

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Happy Tuesday for ya to ya to ya looks a bit nasty out there doesn't it?

It's got that What's

threatening?

Well the battleship gray.

Yes

guys.

It's got that working.

It'll be threatening 58 green Bay 64 and Appleton 64 gosh gosh

Mostly cloudy with showers and storms high in the upper 70s today.

Yeah.

I know.

I'm not gonna be that old guy who just biatches and... But this has been a crappy since May, hasn't

it?

It was like... It's the inconsistency of it all.

I mean,

there hasn't been like a two-week stretch.

Oh man, this

weather has just been

unbelievable.

Right.

Do I have to worry about

tomorrow?

This is awesome.

Yeah.

No.

Or it's been either really, really dry.

Yes.

Or kind of wet.

Like crazy.

Nothing in between.

No.

or even like like Saturday or the Fourth of July day, was that Friday?

Saturday, Friday.

It was like so hot.

Yeah.

Then the next day was like 53.

Wow.

When did the Wednesday night?

I don't know what it is one tomorrow night, but remember to guide the

farmers market.

I said, what, seven?

Five out of

seven?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's a lot.

What do

you do?

And again, I've never gone camping in my life, like in a tent.

What do you do if you're at a campground and it's just like pouring rain all day?

What do you

do?

Me?

Pack up the ten kids.

Let's go.

Let's go to Chuck E. Cheese.

Yeah.

Is there

still a Chuck E. Cheese?

Or is that an old guy's thing?

I think they're still around.

That was when you're back in the day.

Not cheap.

No, but when you take your kids to Chucky Cheese

for like a birthday,

you just sit back, let them do their thing.

That's true.

People take care

them.

Yeah.

That is just like a babysitting.

I thought that one bear was kind of creepy

though.

Well, you can go online.

They open up that curtain.

Yeah.

You can go online and you can find like empty, like graveyard areas of all these old mechanical things.

Oh yeah, they're out there.

Like the Bob's Big Boys and stuff like that.

There's areas that just have all that stuff and some of that every

lane for us.

Yeah

There's I told you about the that that shipyard thing where we're gonna have our little train car businesses or restaurants And that was that sign park that they have up in Anaheim show me a picture.

Oh, that's really cool Clark station and just all these signs and they're around you got okay You want me to tell you one

that I want my place and you've failed miserably at getting for me.

Just wait at the

the one on uh main yeah yeah you want that

it's cracked but i could fix it i could glue it i put a piece of plexiglass behind it yeah it's the packer city motel site

that's what

it was i want that um i bet literally i could go over there with a with a with a uh well i'd need something big to otherwise i'd correct i was gonna say i could go over there the hacksaw

And I could cut that thing down a bit.

Nobody would notice.

Nobody would be like, Hey, that's private property.

Or miss it.

Yeah.

And be like, OK.

Yeah.

Huh.

Yeah.

But that sign park is really cool.

I know.

I just sit there with a coffee or beer or whatever and just look around.

Remember that?

Senoko or just all those signs that.

Well, one that I would love because I grew up in

a Sinclair gas

station.

Sinclair.

Oh, yeah.

When do you

see Sinclair

anymore?

Right.

There's a little there's a little gas station in Oshkosh.

The old-fashioned kind that actually has to the dinosaurs out front and the old gas pumps there and say really right on I think on Oregon right down from Pete's garage bar.

I know where you mean.

I've driven past.

Yeah, I know exactly where you mean and

I thought about that.

Well, that's really cool

Yeah, but that Zephyr and just what was your brother's brand?

What

is he in Claire?

Oh, yeah, it's in Claire Okay, but that would be a cool park because you want to do something right there's a land over there.

They're trying to carve it out into

There have been times where I've been tempted to like take signs off of places that are abandoned And but then you'll see oh no trespass.

Yeah, it's

like is that really a law or a suggestion

well

That's

a suggestion and not a good one

because I love old signs.

Yeah, red owl.

I just have some

old Pepsi ones that were really cool.

Yeah,

yeah,

I sold them all.

I don't know why I sold

a lot of people I know or just

You know when I show people something.

It's like I'll give you a $200.

It's like hard to turn that down sometimes

regret everything I've sold in that way.

I we're talking last night get some friends over that by

the way

Greatest breakfast Those hot dogs you just brought in yeah, even I eat that brought cold

I'm sitting here right now wanting one of those cold.

Oh my

gosh, but those hot dogs you get from Costco Yeah, are the best tasting hot dogs I've ever tasted.

Yeah And they're like

10 inches.

Yeah, they are Did you put I put nothing

on them?

You gotta melt that cheese.

That cheese is really, really good.

I didn't

know there was cheese.

That cheese, I made that.

That's got

melted

cheese, there's some mustard in there.

That is really, really good cheese.

Hot

dogs are brought for breakfast is so underrated.

People say, oh, well, I'm having sausage with my eggs, but

I'm

gonna have a hot dog.

Oh, that's wrong.

Hot dogs are good.

It's a good breakfast.

People like it.

They're just not around to tell us about it.

Terry says, supposed to be nice tomorrow.

Glam Band at the Sardine can.

That's always huge, man.

It is.

just put that up.

Vicki says, good morning, gents.

Hi, Vicki.

Michael says, hi, gents.

Beautiful day from downtown Madison.

He's got

some pretty good digs down there.

He's telling me about that.

Michael's so

much poorer

than us.

Uh, Texas from, uh, Bob says signs, Wally spots supper club.

Oh, that would

great.

Vic theater, Bay theater, caps.

Was it caps?

Cops.

No, that was the ice cream place.

Yeah.

Chocolate, right?

Yeah.

Um, but the, that sign park would, it doesn't look junky either.

Remember when I showed you that?

It was just all around the perimeter.

And then if you could do it on, and then just, and then you could look at that.

or look at the water.

Like, wouldn't that be like a cool place just to like, I don't know, hang out?

That reminds me of a Charles Corral

story.

I used to meet her there.

It was all the

old stuff like that.

No,

I'm hitting

to my picturesque cabin in Montana.

I was doing a ghost podcast yesterday, and we were talking about Charles Corral that I said, hey, did you ever hear the story of?

I said, I don't know if this is true, but one of my partners always tells me.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, it's so true.

We had a good laugh on that.

We're seeing to the tinkling springs, flowing over the

rocks.

Well,

Martha.

Yeah.

And he had one of those, those broadcaster ashes.

Yeah.

Yes.

Right.

Yes.

Well, that was almost like that era.

You almost had to have that.

You know what I mean?

That was part of the Rush Limbaugh had that

a little bit.

Yeah, that

was kind of the allure of those guys

another guy that did that with the bow tie that Charles Osgood Charles

Osgood Yeah, yeah, he was good.

I like the guy.

He's a little off kilter But the guy that does that Sunday morning show that I've started watching he's

a little

cork mocha Because he wears a bow

tie right.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's Charles roka something

like that.

Yeah,

he's a

little

You need to listen to that Bob Costas interview.

You'd like that.

Yeah, I'd like to.

Because he's... Moraka.

Moraka, yeah.

He's not the... Normally, it's Jane Pauley is normally the host.

Okay, okay, that's right.

Because when I turned it on the first time, her picture was up.

I thought, is that Jane Pauley?

And then he was the

host or a guest or something.

No, she's a host.

But he does fill in.

Boy, when I started in this business, and I was, well, the station I worked at was so small, it was...

I still got a business card.

Okay cam VT TV CBS ABC Wow was all listed on there because it was the only station the market So it was great.

What was the today show today show and it was?

Jane Pauley and then Brian Gumbel.

Well, he came later.

I think Tom Broca was

on that's right.

Tom Broca.

And the coolest thing was then we got the live satellite feed all the time.

Yeah.

So when they were kind of like with here where, you know, I said, I'm not going to sit here during breaks anymore.

Cause like, okay, we would get the live feed when they were during breaks.

And every time Tom Broca put his feet up the thing and people are going.

You might want to put your feet down you get a big hole in your shoe But that was so cool to see those people as like normal people right and the other one who we had Where it was like we always wanted to see the you know the

the

satellite feet Yeah, was um guys just Tom Snyder.

Oh my god the tomorrow show.

Yes.

Oh, that's

great

the guy was just a Bob Casas spoke highly of Brian Gumbel.

And I thought Brian Gumbel was not the most difficult, right?

Isn't the word on him?

I've

never met him.

That's what I've heard.

Yeah.

His brother was awesome.

Yeah.

His brother just died recently, right?

Yeah.

I never met Brian Gumbel.

But he, he was just talking about how sports and you know, you don't know this better than anybody, but just to change HBO sports, how just everything has just changed so much.

And of course I told you yesterday about.

You know, he's not like gambling at all.

It's just, it's really taken away from the sport.

And anyway, it's an interesting interview from a guy that, you know, he still looks nice to me.

He still looks like he's 35, 40, but he, you know, 40 years.

And he said he went back to call games.

They called him back.

He said, I didn't do a very good job of that.

He was very just self cause that, that wasn't me.

I didn't really enjoy it.

Cause I had my, my better days were behind me when it comes to that.

He goes, I just want to be an emeritus status and help.

Anyway, I can, but I don't I don't want to be the front guy anymore.

He I will

say this.

He never shied away from anything.

I remember he did the big interview with who's a pro wrestling guy, Vince McMahon.

Yeah.

And he was talking about the steroids and all the things going on in the guys dying really young.

And he

kind of

he went

after him.

Put that Penn State guy away, too.

Didn't he at that interview?

Yeah.

When he went at him, pretty much on national TV.

He said, Jerry, what?

Sandusky.

Yeah, well, what did you just say?

Yeah.

He did.

You're right.

He didn't shy away.

I helped him out one time, Bob.

He called me at home.

What?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Tell the story.

Yeah.

Okay.

When Charles Martin slammed Jim McMahon.

Remember that?

Yeah.

8586.

Yeah.

And got suspended and everything.

And he was trying to get an interview with Charles McMahon.

Okay.

And we're, I was with NBC.

I was with Fox 11 or whatever NBC, whatever we were then.

Yeah.

And so he called me.

Instead is there any chance, you know, we could get this blah blah blah and Charles Martin and I okay.

This is a true story.

I'm not I don't make up this stuff, okay?

the night before I was with Charles McMahon at Sebastian's and Charles Charles Martin not McMahon Charles Martin was slamming man, and he was doing shots

One after another, he had like 14 shots lined up.

And in his big hands, they're like thimbles.

And it was, it was a crazy night.

Yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Uh, next day, the whole thing happens.

He gets suspended.

I go to his apartment.

I got the only interview that Charles Martin did.

Really?

Well, the Bob McGinn from the Milwaukee Journal even called me asked if he could use excerpts from it.

Okay.

He sat in Charles Martin's living room, told me about how his mom was a bootlegger.

He was an alcoholic by the time he was like 14.

and the whole thing, yada yada.

I set up, Bob Costas had the only national interview with Charles Martin because of me.

Because of you.

Because of me.

How come, how did I not hear the story already?

I've known you how many years.

Right.

You know what I got

out

of it?

I was

just asking.

He sent

me a cap.

Oh man.

Not

even a

note?

It might have

leverage.

Yeah,

was.

I'm trying to find if John thanks so much for helping and

he sent

me an NBC sports cap.

He didn't call back saying, hey, Bob, you know, the Olympics are coming up.

Yeah.

I always thought I could hold it sometime for as a thing, but I'd never, you know, in the back pocket.

Yeah.

Try and pull that out now.

I know, right?

He seems like he would have taken care of you.

He seems like a nice guy.

I don't know.

I had never met him either, so, but, yeah.

Nobody's taking care of me, Jim.

I'm an orphan.

Come

on.

Help with

those

hot dogs you got

this morning.

Oh, man, we got another one.

We're trying.

We're

going to set a quick break.

Mine or the mayor?

Great lineup for you.

Stay

with us.

I never saw that movie.

Really?

Footloose.

Wow.

I know, right?

Never saw that movie.

The Broadway play, too.

What was that?

Did you see the Broadway play?

Yeah.

Kevin Bacon?

No.

Um, yeah.

There's a lot of 80 movies I never saw.

So why is that?

Like, I never saw it.

Some of them I'd have to give my man card because I was too old.

Like, Pretty in Pink?

Never saw that.

Nobody saw

that.

I saw that.

You

saw that.

I didn't like the Brad Pack type movies.

Oh, I didn't like all of them.

I thought Breakfast Club was my life, where they're all in detention on a Saturday.

I told you

my story about the principal, right?

Well, what's the story?

All right.

Or not the principal, the guy that, what would it be?

The janitor?

No, no.

The monitor?

The monitor, yeah.

For

the

day?

Oh, he was the vice vice principal or something like that.

Yeah.

So I was in Tucson and getting sent to a live shot at the, um, what was it?

The, uh, I don't remember.

I had two son Toros, minor weight baseball team.

And, you know, people around a guy comes up to me and goes, Hey, hey, uh, what channel are you with?

And I told him, you know, whatever he goes, Hey, I was watching last night.

Boy, it's a cute anchor you got there.

Oh, okay.

Creepy guy.

We're in a Hawaiian shirt and just kind of whatever.

Yeah.

He goes, hey, let's talk to her.

Yeah, OK, creepy guy.

Go sleep on your park bench and whatever, whatever.

Then he goes, hey, does Carl Kinberg work for you?

Yeah, he's one of my producers.

Hey, tell him I said hello.

I'm an old friend.

OK, he goes, hey, my name's Paul.

OK, go back.

Hey, Carl, one of your loser friends sleeping in the park wanted to say hello, and he's trying to hook up with Kathy.

Oh yeah, Paul Gleason.

Yeah, he's in town shooting a movie.

You know what?

He goes, oh yeah, he's a big time actor.

You didn't know that?

Like, no, I didn't know that.

So he's in town shooting a movie.

So the next time I saw him, I sucked up to him like you

can't believe.

And you know where it

got

me?

Nowhere.

Kind of like what you did for Costas.

Nothing.

Say nothing.

Nowhere.

Nothing.

See, maybe that's.

Know I know I know he was thinking we were talking about cost us remember he had that show on after Letterman called later

Yes,

and it was just two chairs in another person and heat and it wasn't necessarily always sports now He was actually just a really here's great interviewer.

I think

he's the best interviewer.

There's ever been I really and truly do

yes,

I he's a good interview.

Yeah, yeah

He could drag

it out a little bit though.

Yeah.

Remember when he did that?

Well, he sometimes wants everybody to know exactly how smart he is in his

asking his question.

Sure.

But remember when, I don't know, was it LeBron James was going from one team to another?

Yeah.

And he dragged that announcement out like for two hours in an interview.

Do you remember that?

There was a pre-show to that.

Was that him?

Wasn't it cost?

I don't

think no, I don't think it was cost us.

Oh god it went on forever ever that was the dumbest thing of all time wasn't it even ESPN I think which has a

certain

arrogance about itself like we're the king of sports.

That's what they even kind of came back and said Yeah,

maybe

we kind of over did this.

Yeah, that's actually considered one of the biggest like What's the food and sports sports broadcasting history like they built this up so big

Maybe it was three hours.

It was forever just and yeah, it wasn't him though.

I don't think Cuz I know what you're talking about.

Yeah, I'm gonna take my services or talents to the self feature.

Okay, why would you do that?

Yeah, that was the whole thing.

Yeah

Anyway, but I do agree that he was a

great interviewer though, but also that would never that wouldn't be Bob Costas That would be the network saying you need to make this right Yeah,

right.

Yeah, no, but he seemed though later in life again I just listened to one interview so but he seemed like he is not defined isn't the right word, but he kind of said look I'm not gonna do that

You know, he kind of got a little bit more confident.

Maybe at that time he couldn't.

Maybe he gets to a certain point where it's like, I'm not going to do this, but he did.

I don't know how many Olympics he did.

And, um, can you imagine, I don't know if he was a diva or not, but probably got the room he wanted and

you know, the

food he wanted.

You know what I mean?

Like he probably had pretty decent, um, yeah, travel

arrangements.

Remember the Olympics where he had pink eye, but they still made him.

He talks about that.

He basically made him work.

He has pink eye looking like.

Yep.

He said that.

I remember that.

Yeah.

And I just seemed like later on in life, I don't know, it was 35 years or the last five or something, but he, that's when he said, like, I'm not reading that.

You know, I was like, wow.

You know what's funny though, you think back, even on the Olympics at those times, there were certain people that were, they would use the Olympics to really billboard and marquee younger talent.

And so many of them just disappeared then.

You know what I mean?

It's like they're right in the precipice of making

huge.

And then you never hear of them again.

It's like what like remember Bill McAfee I used to do stuff for Bill McAfee and then he just boom disappeared.

Hmm.

Yeah

Got this my

favorite costume interview was the Bob Knight interview after the incident with Neil Reed He there was a treat.

Okay.

He said something that was so Politically and sexually or whatever you want to inculcate Bob Knight did

yeah, yeah, I remember that

remember that

yeah,

I do Can I say it Todd?

No,

I don't know that's too early.

Okay?

Okay, basically he's, well, it's kind of like if, if a sexual assault is inevitable, enjoy it.

So he said,

and it's like, yeah.

And it's like that.

Yeah.

That was horrific.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah.

You wonder sometimes how it's like, what are you thinking?

You know, I don't know.

This is what we should do.

Bob Costas owns John Minow a favor.

No, he does.

And he is.

He loves this emeritus status.

He says that he goes, I want to just, that's what I'm going to do from now on.

I'm just, I want to be viewed from an emeritus status.

had him on my radio show one time.

It was he nice or was he, he

was, he was great.

Um,

Okay, I

asked him a question that

he absolutely put that on John's list I'm doing I asked him

a question that he absolutely loved because we're both big baseball card guys Oh, yeah, I said he loves base 1965 you put your nickel down you get a pack of baseball cards What would be the worst five cards you could possibly get like

that and

loved that he was bringing out names He loved that

and that guy knows this big time

on Monday

Was

he an athlete

no, he's really little

is he okay like five foot five

yeah but he was anyway it was a great interview all right so that's a new goal all right we'll get started quick break back after this

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Welcome back.

Good morning coming your way at Tuesday 58 in Green Bay 64 now 1064 in us gosh mostly cloudy with showers and storms high in the upper 70s Today is a video game day something.

I have never done.

I've never played a video game No,

you're not even like in a tablet or something or any of that Never played you've never dropped a quarter in and played Pac-Man or your Pac-Man.

No, I

was I had my granddaughters at

The right place month or so ago when they're in town.

Yeah, and there's a Pac-Man and I didn't I couldn't show her how to play it

Oh, man,

isn't that bizarre

that?

That was a great every I know I've never

played a video game

Wow, yeah, they were talking about Set in the cost not good been the cost of this interview.

There was another interview they're talking about how Kids not so much in the United States, but some in the United States, but really in some other countries

are just so addicted to video games like an addiction like like i'm talking serious addiction you know cocaine type stuff and that they're they have no social skills at all and it's just these it's it's really sad how addictive video games have gotten it's just crazy they and then there's yes you can play you can be in um

Taiwan and play some guy in Germany.

I mean, it's just crazy the way that's networked, but that it's all day.

Like I'm talking eight, nine hours a day.

Oh yeah.

Would you see them all every time those people make?

Yeah, but it's just,

what do you do with that?

What's, Todd, what's

Fortnite?

I don't know, but I do know it's a thing.

I've heard that's like the

most addicting thing when people get into that.

It's like

unbelievable.

Like they'll play all night long.

So like, I know these friends were, they had to put a lock.

Like they're the door of where the things were so that their kid wouldn't be up all night long playing that

so there's a My parents did the same thing on the liquor cabinet That was the

games

we played

you know my dad had such terrible tasting stuff though I never had the thing you know what his go-to Shot was every day coming to have two Pam's blue ribbons and two shots.

You know what the shots were old crow.

Oh That is the worst tasting thing

All right.

It's gasoline.

Oh, you ever taste that old crow?

It's horrific.

It's still around.

I don't think so.

Is it Todd?

I don't know.

I had an old crow decanter one time.

That was really cool.

Well, it's funny because we were talking about the signs.

No, the bicentennial.

Oh, yeah.

Those canters that they made for the 200th.

Yeah.

And it's gonna be cool.

And I wish I would have saved some of those.

I'm ready to talk to you about that.

But just those are just cool things to have, right?

No question.

Yeah.

No, I don't remember old

crow.

It's made by Jim Beam now.

Oh, is it still being made?

Yes.

I've never seen that in a bar.

I've never like sat in a bar and looked up at their bottom shelf and seen old crow.

It's

not on the top shelf.

It's not it.

You don't have to

look up.

It's on the bottom shelf.

Yeah.

Wow.

Today's also cow appreciation day.

I appreciate cows.

Shout out to Kiwani County, right?

Okay.

Why?

They have more cows than people.

Oh, really?

I didn't know that.

Oh, I find that interesting.

I did

not know that because it's living in the hood.

I just think that's like really interesting.

Huh?

Okay.

So I don't

know.

Are you

sure

about

that?

Here's.

So I just looked at that.

Okay.

No, Keewani County has roughly 4.74 cows for every person.

So right now,

that's a lot.

I wouldn't have thought Keewani County would be.

I would think more.

Southwestern sort of

like there are some down that way too, but yep Keewanee County

But I think Keewanee County leaned into that one year because I remember it was when I was in office And I'm like I don't know that I would use that.

You know, I could yeah, it's a breaking thing.

You know, I would rather say I don't know I would think

like Shelton new Holstein those areas are big farm areas

with those

big farms

pushing four to

one Wow

Almost

five to

one almost

five.

We have four.

Yeah.

Yeah, I would that

attract you.

It might for me.

I would rather come across a cow than a human.

Yeah, that is true.

What

did somebody tell us one day how many people get killed by cows

every year?

Yeah, there's a lot.

Yeah, there are a lot of people realize.

They act like

they're all cool.

We're nice.

Boom, look out.

Okay, just turn your back on

him.

I still say if I didn't have an artificial hip, I would race one for money.

They can you wouldn't even come close not even close my real hips not with your real hips not at your best At your peak, which is what we were at 17 18 19 20 whenever you were at your peak.

You could never outrun a cow My peak I did not you're right.

I didn't just say it.

All right.

You sure ain't there now.

Okay.

Wait,

No, Cal appreciation it is

what I read that I thought okay that I'm gonna

mentioned Q1 County.

But I think they tried or they thought about using that as a catch type thing, you know, home of the Green Bay Packers or longest this, oldest this and never cut on.

I don't know if the mayor put the smack down on it or the county exec or if they just

Or if it didn't maybe it didn't catch on her and I don't know what that would do for you I guess that would get you know the 4h clubs and stuff to be like wow that's Awesome, and if you're like Todd that would rather talk to a cow than a human.

Yeah, might attract people

anyway.

All right, so that's that

Ham shall come from pigs so hamburgers are from no they come from cows He's got to do another one of those church watches and things man.

I hope

Nate Bargassie.

He's awesome Maybe I'll do that with the 250 at the concert

No, he didn't.

Like I said, you know.

Yeah.

Well, you know what?

OK, I got to be careful going to stuff with expectations.

Who was I?

Bill Burr.

I was watching an interview with Bill Burr.

Yeah.

I haven't seen him in a while.

Yeah.

He was pretty normal in this.

He wasn't like, you know, off the wall.

But he talked about something where, and he talked about that about coming up with fresh stuff all the time.

He says, when he started in comedy clubs, if anybody was there with a notebook, the bouncers would kick him out because people would be stealing their jokes.

Oh,

and they'd be writing down jokes.

He said now you do something.

It's worldwide 20 seconds later.

Yeah.

when you said about Nate Bargazzi, you said he was good, but you've heard all everything he said you had heard pretty much, right?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Not only that, the stuff I wanted to hear, like if you went and saw the stones, you'd want to hear certain things.

Right.

I just didn't hear what I like.

I'm with you on that George Washington.

I think that's a

hilarious.

So good.

I think he talked about his family, which I think is funny, but

Like Gaffigan, you know, I've seen him a couple times and he is just really really really funny And he there's some stuff that I've heard before but I don't know man.

You tell me that joke ten times I'll laugh I still

think Jimmy one Jim Gaffigan one that I laughed at our time I visited my wife's family in Wisconsin.

I was there for eight pounds

or grown up like a Milwaukee, you know, and then it comes summer, where are we going?

It's like, it

just went through a winter.

Now the best weather,

where are we going?

Where are you

going?

Today is also a freezer pop day.

Did everybody hear?

I bet everybody in these two rooms, maybe not you, made their own ice

cubes with Kool-Aid.

Yeah.

We did,

we did

that.

Did ya, did ya, did ya.

I tried to, I remember seeing

them.

How do you get the, how do we get- We got a friend's house.

Mine were made with low sugar wilers.

Oh, wiler,

yeah.

How

did you

get the tongue depressors to stick

in there?

First of all, there were no tongue depressors.

don't remember having a tongue depressor.

Well, how do you- We just pop them out, just eat them like that with your hand.

Oh.

No,

I don't remember.

Then you get all

over your shirt and the mosquitoes would come after in the flies.

And

it was great.

Because those

ice cubes,

I was wondering

how

you

get

the thing to

hold up till it froze.

No, there's a way to do that.

You can use toothpicks.

You put cellophane or saran wrap over the top and stick it through that way.

And that'll hold those in place.

I never heard that that makes sense.

I saw that on an ABC after school special

Then

you got the sticks are more fun,

right

Cheap stuff at home.

Well, yeah, okay.

I that's a really good idea I like it try that today is also blueberry day.

I've been eating a lot of blueberries That's one of my things I'm gonna have it for the Johnny juice our place

It's not our place.

We're next to each other

whatever blueberries

and raspberries and frozen bananas, all mixed in with the Greek yogurt and a little bit

of honey.

Okay, there's a lot wrong

with that.

And you know what else I put in there, Todd?

Quinoa.

Yes.

Okay, there's... All right.

Think about the ingredients.

I told this... It's an

unbelievable blend that just... Your palate goes insane.

It's like Charles Corralt going

to the cabin.

Yeah, that's what it is.

Um, and someone's getting,

yes.

Um, so we do, I'll be talking about this in a couple of hours.

The, that, that the spoilage on that's unbelievable.

It's too fast.

You don't want things that raspberries go quickly.

I freeze

them.

I freeze them.

And even by frozen, I know by the frozen avocados, the little cubes of the avocados, these are the healthiest things.

It's changed my life.

It's one of the reasons

I'm so

healthy now.

It's

mind-boggling.

Ray Todd, did you notice too?

Okay, I did not hear

that.

I was trying to get to 207 for tomorrow.

Yeah,

basically.

What did

you hit?

210.

Close.

You still got a day.

When you're at last, hot dogs.

Yeah,

I know,

right.

That helped.

Having

two hot dogs and a brat for breakfast here helped.

Did you go to your 40th?

No.

So these people, you know, I'll tell you what if you ever feel like go stand next to the lunch lady You'll feel good.

You know, I mean think

she died 26 years ago Don't stop the lady.

You showed me the picture of today is that's her mom Today is chocolate with almonds date nothing better nothing better almonds with chocolate

cashews

Jane

Yeah, I might give you that

one.

Yeah, I'm gonna give you that one.

Yeah,

uh, siruji white chocolate cashew turtles

No, are you?

Yeah,

I gotta give you that one.

Uh, Jaden Smith Will Smith son.

Yep.

Okay.

Uh, Kevin Bacon.

We're talking about foot lose.

Yeah, that's why I play that lose

today.

Um, Angelo Angelica Houston 71.

Okay.

You know what?

You know what in movies sometimes where you have to just think yourself really

Some writer, producer didn't say that's like such a cheesy dumb line.

Kevin Bacon and, and what's his name?

Tom Cruise in, in, um, officer and gentlemen.

Okay.

When they were getting into it about, you know, yada, yada, he goes, Hey, you, you want to know something?

You're a lousy softball player.

Remember that it's like that was such a cheesy life them.

It's like really You

remembered it.

Yeah, I know

but you remember it because it was so cheesy.

Yeah, so that was not officer and a gentleman.

Yeah, no,

no, no, no, no

Danger zone you

want

the truth.

Oh, I deserve it

a few good men few good men.

Yes.

Thank you

Thank you.

Yeah Dodgers at Brewers

Again tonight, which is a great series brewers really gave it to him last night six o'clock on W. I. S. S. Text here from Bob.

That's the caps sign.

Man.

Caps or cops?

Cops.

I think it's cops.

Cops.

Restaurant, candy, soda, bakery.

Right.

Where is that?

I think it was

right down here.

I know it's on your, well, no,

I see that,

but.

No, no, but I mean, I think it might have actually, that might have actually been right where we're sitting.

And I'm not even joking about that.

That might have been like right here on this block where we are.

Where the old caps cops restaurant was

it says the University of Wisconsin Green Bay,

but I pretty sure was on Washington Street like right here because I remember going in there and having a big hot fudge sundae when I was a real little kid and Then you said the booths are is it Nicolae

restaurant?

So it was originally located at 125 Main Street, okay, and 211 pine later moved to 212 South Washington so down that way

just right down here.

Yeah, probably we're a Hagemeister is

thought the south would be south of

Washington.

But it was on Washington.

That's where I went when I was a little kid.

Yeah.

That sign is, they said UWGB archives.

I didn't know they had a place like that, but we may have to go.

I didn't either.

I'd like to see that.

Well, we have to maybe go get that because if it's sitting somewhere else, what is it?

Exactly.

We're going

to destroy it.

We're going to talk sometime about your sister or sister in law.

Okay, which.

Okay, who you were talking about before we went on the air this morning.

Oh, who's overlast

pick stuff out

like garage sales and sells it for 10 times as much

Yeah,

I want to do that.

It's more than

10 that has been my dream serious stuff on eBay

serious side hustle

and I want it I got great stuff great stuff back

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I always try to get into Todd's head and figure out what music he's playing why.

Really none this time.

Okay.

Just a great sign.

Very cool.

Coming up, we got Katie Burke, three rivers rolling.

No.

Rollio.

Three rivers rollio.

Rollio.

Log rolling event coming up in Howard, coming up on July 12th.

I was trying, by the way, to get you guys to actually go and compete.

I think there might be some...

insurance issues.

She's smart.

I don't remember her, but

I would have to practice.

You know what I mean?

Cause that's gotta be tough the first time you go at it, right?

I, you

know what?

I took to it like,

yeah, I was unbelievable.

was unbelievable.

I remember doing a story down in Flint.

On that and people are like you should do this.

Yeah, I remember that.

Yeah, we're actually on camera right the whole yeah the

whole gear

Yeah, I

still got it somewhere.

I'm sure you do.

will I'll find

it my guess is the key to that is kind of Scratched on I got a good low

center of gravity.

Yeah, and that helps a lot I would think yeah feet are wider apart right they

told me they said man if you ever if you

want to

pursue this

this can make a

lot of money

and

Why are you sitting?

I had a

lot of other things going

on.

I got it.

Later on, we got Joe Verdegetter is our great guy, our racing expert and Scott Hansen.

Scott Hansen is legendary in stock car racing circles throughout the entire Midwest.

Five time WIR champion, which is big time.

Then he raced on the truck circuit, the national truck circuit right here from Green Bay.

He is just legendary when it comes to racing in this area.

Then we got John Kramer coming up headlines for the press times.

the monk community events coming up with my new thing.

There you go.

Yeah.

My new thing.

Yeah.

All right.

And then, uh, Adriana Vander at least and chef Lauren Rue there with the Ash gosh, Mary at Waterfront Hotel and Conference Center, their new restaurant right on the water.

Right across the bridge from where our station.

That's okay.

Yeah, it's right

there It's called anchor and port grand opening coming up on the 29 nice and you guys have some menus in there with you So you can take a look at some of the stuff nice

nice.

Thank you

that I like that.

like that a lot Okay, I want to talk more about your your cousin things.

Does anybody here's what I would be willing to here's what I'd be willing to do Well menu looks great.

I would be

one.

Yeah, I would be willing to share my profits

with somebody if they would do the selling and the shipping.

For like eBay type stuff, huh?

So you're gonna be the, you're gonna buy it.

No, I would, I would have, I got this stuff.

Okay,

I got this stuff.

And then what I would do is I would, in fact, you know what I do, I see my books all the time on eBay, my books.

I would do just my books to start out with, sell them on eBay, but I don't wanna do all the stuff.

Why?

Because

I don't know how to do I don't know whatever I don't

know I don't know how to put I don't know how to go on the internet and put an ad I don't know how to do that stuff.

I would send them I would put them in the package with the name and I would send them

Okay, I know her little name and I just don't give an accent right, but I

would give them a part

partial profits with them why?

Because I don't want to get involved with the whole internet part of the whole

get a scale Okay, so here we probably have one

and you weigh that, and the charts right in front of you, and the person's gonna say, I saw this on eBay, and you're gonna have come up with a minus something, and people are gonna say, I'd like to buy that.

Well, give me an example of something, like I said in Facebook.

Frontlines, my book,

frontlines.

Okay, so you got this book, and you're willing to sell it for $18, okay, $20.

And people say, I'd love to get that, and would you personalize it?

Absolutely.

Okay.

Come back.

All right.

I'll take it and say, all right, one minute.

Well, you're gonna know what the book weighs.

Where do you live?

I live in Tucson.

Okay.

It's $2.40.

So the total is 24 or whatever it is, 2240.

And they do that PayPal.

You'll be set up for that.

I don't know what that is.

I know, but then I know it's way too complicated for me.

Why would you give money away?

If you can in three hours, you can learn how to do it.

Why would you give that away?

Todd, you want

do it for me?

I was just thinking maybe we could have a little like an assistant help you with that.

That would be fantastic.

Actually what you really want to do is get an intern to help you with that.

So you don't have to pay him a student and they can say, look, I'll give a class

credit.

Well, you're really not in that authority.

You have to

sign the thing.

You have to put a whole bunch of forms to get class credit.

No, it's just it's good for students to do that.

They go to their marketing class and what was your project I did?

Well, I worked with this John Minow guy who was

way out there.

And I brought it to where he is actually turning a profit, thanks to my effort of designing his website.

But, but eventually you got to learn how to do that.

And I'm kind of preaching to, I don't know how to do that.

I was just gonna say, yeah.

Dad here telling me how

to drive a motorcycle.

But I don't know why

we,

I don't know, you want to give 20% away.

I would give, I would do that for the effort for somebody.

I would, I would do the shipping.

I would take it to the post office all you gotta do is take one book and they'd say how much it is then you'll know You know how much it would be.

I would do that.

I would package it by those nice With the with the with the what should we call

it might be cheaper ways to ship it than the post office.

All

right, whatever I would is anybody out there wants to go partners with me

Yes, or no, but you got to keep it busy.

That's you know, what are you one book a week?

People don't want to do that.

Can you can you do like?

Three items a day.

Well, I don't know.

How does that do they still bid on you on eBay?

You can do that.

Or is it just like the flat price?

Just just look I'm not you need to talk to her.

She's made serious side hustle money on this thing.

She's really good at it and she loves it.

She has more fun with this.

I've

always wanted to do it.

And I always want to do it.

She has her niche too.

Like you have your niche in memorabilia.

Yeah, probably.

Well, been brilliant both.

I'm sorry, don't mean to laugh.

Yes, I do.

the same time, from Nancy.

As I'm listening to this, I'm thinking to myself, is the man who claims he always has an assistant preaching to John right now about how to do things for himself?

Nancy.

Okay.

Thank you, Nancy.

Alright, Nancy, you may be onto something.

Yeah.

So who's going to help me out?

Look for a partner.

This could be very lucrative for

you.

Brian Mills just said, John, I've done the eBay thing.

I'll help you out.

Thank you, Brian.

There's a good guy I can

help.

There's Brian.

Brian, we're

in business.

And I'll tell you what, I'll participate.

I will get you.

No, you're not going to jump in.

No, no, no, I don't want to see anybody.

He's getting in there for money.

No, no, I'm not.

I'm not.

I will.

No, this is what I'm getting in there for.

I will get a fine a student to help you.

I got Brian.

I don't need your student.

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We got a thing here from Todd.

Todd, can you read that one?

Well, that's a nice,

Todd.

This makes a lot of sense.

I bet Todd is speaking for a lot of people.

Todd from Depeer says, since this shipping thing is never going to happen, I'll throw my name in the hat.

How's that birdhouse from 20 years ago coming along, John?

Yep.

Also another one, Vinny says I'd pay to watch Mino Log Rule.

There you go.

Michael Freeman says, Lisa from Simple Life will help J.M., meaning Mino.

Also, can she sell her quiche at Johnny Juice?

There you go.

Yes, yes.

She does have good quiche.

And by the way, okay, my buddy, Knob.

Yeah.

He found when he's cleaning out like his dad's place, a shoe box from Air Jordans, like an original shoe box.

All right.

Read how much he got for that.

Wow,

$1,500

for a shoebox!

I got shoeboxes like you can't believe.

So does Jim, but they've got $1,500 in him.

Yeah.

From

back, from back when he was mayor.

We're talking, we're talking earlier, this log rolling thing.

I really wouldn't get you, but we're just talking about three

rivers, Rolio log rolling event coming up in Howard on July 12th.

We were just talking about side hustle money.

That's how we got into this eBay, all that kind of jobs are authors.

So he's going to sell his books.

And anyway, but this log rolling thing, it's, there's a little buzz out there for this.

You've been getting some.

exposure on it.

Yeah, we are very excited to be in Brown County for the first time and for our 17th annual Three Rivers Rolio.

I did not know you were talking about where people could go to train for this.

I didn't realize there were training centers in the Green Bay area.

Yeah, absolutely.

People can give it a shot at the YMCA's if you look it up or the Kroc Center.

That's amazing.

So what is like, I guess training is what sense of balance.

Don't get on the log.

There's gotta be other things you do before you get on the log.

Like, what is training?

Well, training for the amateurs, you sign up out of YMCA.

Amateur meaning child or adult.

Adults can absolutely learn.

Don't worry, I dragged my boyfriend now, husband, into trying this.

So any age can come out and try it.

It's getting on a log in a pool as the first type of training.

Now professionals are going to cross train, they're going to sprint, they're going to do strength training, they're going to do all your normal training than an athlete would.

But the number one thing that they want to do is make sure they're on a log.

I can stop doing that.

I'm guys getting ready for this

thing.

I didn't know there were professional log rollers.

No.

Is that like a professional circuit?

There is a professional circuit.

There's a governing body, and we are just coming off the U.S.

Loggerly Open in Gladstone, Michigan, headed here.

One more event on Sunday, and then the World Championships.

You're in a little Beatty Knock, were you up there?

No.

That's on the Lake Michigan up there?

No, we're

not.

We're in Gladstone.

They have a place for this.

Van Cleave Park.

Oh, sure.

And the harbor.

Oh, very cool.

When you train...

Do you train with someone right off the bat because I gotta believe it's different if you train by yourself and then get somebody else jumps on there

Yeah, it's very different.

So at the Y I mean most people are gonna get in class and they want to get on the log with someone But we'll spend in a 45 minute class will spend 35 minutes doing stuff by themselves and then because they will all we want to Challenge another person you want to be the last one standing really that's that's the goal of any of it We'll let them start rolling against

people very young.

Do they have real little cleats on the shoes?

So professionals do have spikes on their shoes.

Okay.

The amateurs and the why?

No, we don't put spikes in the pools.

Okay.

Is it, do they wear shoes or can you go barefoot?

So amateurs in pools go barefoot, and their logs are carpeted or synthetic, and so you'll go barefoot.

You're not on the log for a long time when you're starting to learn, and so they'll go barefoot.

As you progress and you're up there for a longer time, we'll add a ton of shoe, and then the pros go to the barewoods and wear spike shoes.

So they, I

mean, when the pros do the actual logs, I mean, it's like a log,

right?

Yep, they are actual logs.

Amateurs do too, but they're wrapped in carpet.

But this is like outdoor carpeting or something, or just carpet.

Okay, the question was, can they bump each other?

No, there is a center line.

Boy, that looks pretty

good.

They're pretty close, this one

picture.

This picture

you

showed

us is

like one arm,

but you don't just say that.

So there's incidental contact.

So if you're both flaring your arm and you hit each other, that's called incidental.

There's no intent behind it, and that's fine.

If you reach across and push your competitor, the other person automatically wins that fall.

You cannot intentionally push them off the log.

It's a sparring match.

You would

never argue incidental versus

intentional.

So, okay, you're facing opposite directions, right?

It depends.

Okay, yeah, explain that again.

Okay, so every roller, just like you have a right-handed person, right-footed person, left hand, every roller is going to pick a shoulder, right shoulder or left shoulder.

So if I'm a right shoulder, rolling another right shoulder roller, to watch each other's feet, we face opposite directions.

So one of us has to run backwards on this.

So you're gonna run more across the body of water because you're both gonna want to go forward There'll be some back in there.

So it just depends if Who you're matched up against in the bracket?

So if you're if a right is going against the left, so it's gonna be one

forward, one backwards.

How do you decide that?

Do you flip a coin?

Cause wouldn't you rather run forward?

No, it's a battle of your feet.

You got your, your feet, your spikes are on that log.

And so you're going to fight to be the one to run forward or backwards.

And sometimes you'll be the smaller roller and you just have to see the

people like, you know, talk about a dominant hand, obviously in dominant eye.

Do people have a dominant foot?

Do they have dominant feet?

Uh, they can.

Yeah.

I think I

do like a kicker.

I mean a field goal kicker is gonna have a dominant foot They're not gonna kick one field goal with their right and one with their left

good point good point good point I didn't think of that, but now let me ask you this in the professional Game yeah of this you said the world championship is in Hayward correct these We used to call lumberjack competitions.

They've become really popular.

Haven't they?

Yeah, they still are Wow

We're growing and

spreading.

I remember when White Rolled to Sports did a thing on him one time.

I was more than one time and I competed in the very final great outdoor games and then the Steel Timbers.

I'm White Rolled to Sports?

Yeah.

No kidding.

I was down to Florida, running the boom.

Oh my gosh, that's awesome.

How long were you on the log?

Like, is it seconds a minute?

So...

The rolling can be anywhere from a 20 second match to 20 minutes.

Is there

a time when it's like, come on, like a baseball game?

Or is there no scoring?

Yeah, there's scoring.

So it's bracket style tournament, double elimination.

And so a match is best of five.

So you have to beat the other competitor.

three times in order to win.

So if that happens, boom, boom, boom, match over in an early round, later rounds, when you're getting the semifinals and finals, and even the early rounds can run longer.

And there's also log sizes.

So the men will start on 15 inch in diameter.

And every time you hit a time limit, so men is one minute, three minute, five minute, they move down to one inch in diameter.

So now the log spins faster, so you get more action.

So there is also the- Oh, that's

cool.

What makes it spin faster?

Well, the diameter.

Oh, ice, okay, okay.

You drop the diameter and it'll spin faster.

Ah,

so, hmm, I just want to talk about the length of this.

You said that it can be for 20 minutes, but eventually they just call a truce and then...

No, they never call a truce.

They just wait for someone to get exhausted and fall in the water.

Really?

I bet it would get exhausting.

Oh, now you're kidding?

That's like jump

rope.

Yeah, that's gotta be... I mean, it's like a mini sprint on and off.

Right.

I mean, you have to have cardio.

How do you train for something like this if you're not in the water?

So, cross training, strength training in the gym, lifting.

Other people will train, cardio, bike, run, swim.

But again, time on log is very important.

Wow, this is cool.

And you got it coming up, the 17th annual Three Rivers Rolio, heading to an exciting new venture thrilled to be partnered with the Village of Howard.

for an action-packed weekend Friday, July 11th, amateur starting at four o'clock.

So can people just come there and say, hey, I want to give this a shot?

They cannot.

They have to be registered in advance.

OK.

And is there a do like to pre-register?

Is there more to it than that?

I mean, do you think I take a little bit of a physical or something?

No, they don't.

the amateurs, members of the United States Law

Girl... Turn your head and

cough!

We don't have to say that!

I mean, come on,

what if the guy can't even get on

a log,

you know?

Well, they have to be members of the United States Law Girl & Association, so... Oh, okay.

Oh, that's

pretty good.

Okay.

And I mean, you have to know where to register to.

Okay.

All right.

So,

we're dumb.

Yeah, we are.

She's like, I knew that a long piece.

We're well into

this.

Okay, so then professionals start at 10 o'clock on Saturday morning.

Yeah, absolutely.

And if coming down, there's food trucks, coffee vendors, so like feel free to grab a coffee.

And if you want to come for the lunch hour, there's beer and food on site.

And people can just sit in the luncheers and watch.

Yeah, free.

Yeah, free to the public.

That's awesome.

It's

gonna be fun.

Yeah, how did you get

into this?

How did you get started?

So I started the local YMCA

on Alaska

in yeah the unalaskan area the lacrosse Y And my brother saw it wanted to try and I was a 20 months younger So then after he started I wanted to do it at the age of six, but

age of really started

this Wow, so then you you were talking me for the show or before the segment you played other sports How did this help you in other sports?

Longer lane gives you a great sense of balance and really quick feet like so any sport that you need quickness.

I mean you're on a small diameter log keeping your balance So all cardiovascular strength quickness are all gained from longer lane.

You know, it's funny.

We we interviewed a kid that is top score in football 400 some yards of the last game five touchdowns and each day and we asked him what his biggest strength was and he said balance

Yeah.

He just, I don't know if he did log one.

I wish we would have them back on our show, but he just said, you know, I, I, I just have been gifted with it or not gifted.

He works really hard at it, but he goes, it's balance.

And yeah, that's, that's a, that's a key thing to have in any sport,

but it's an important skill,

especially this one.

Okay.

Tell me again, though, you, you said, and I didn't realize this because I'm a member of the crack center and the white don't, what

don't.

He has, I'm not going to take that away from him.

He's there.

But the question is, how many times have you gone?

Really, Todd?

Well, I

mean, Todd's on

my,

OK.

If I'd known there was a lot growing, I would have gotten

a lot more.

He would have gone twice.

Right.

Excuse them for they know not what they speak,

but they

teach this

He's gonna be going every day now.

I'm

sure perfect.

That's great.

It's easy as easy as falling off long and then going for a little

swim Okay,

I don't

I don't mean to

sound creepy.

Okay.

Let's the latter part.

You want to dress that at all?

I don't mean it's not creepy.

I do you want to see my calves?

No serious.

They're unbelievable.

Let's go back to the first part

You want to touch it?

Right on your calf.

Yeah.

Don't touch it.

Look, we got three pending lawsuits.

Just stay, stay away.

I think, I think because of my calves, I'd be really good at this.

How's your balance in your core?

Phenomenal.

Your core's phenomenal?

My what?

See, look at her.

Look at her.

Just like that lady that looked at you.

That's the core.

When you said I'm 210, I'm like, are you wheeling?

How deep is water?

Do you have to swim or is it like a...

three feet of water, what are you guys log rolling?

It all depends, because we're going to start.

I mean, it's never over your head, is it?

Absolutely.

It is.

Oh, I'm out.

I'm out.

You're not a swim.

Wow.

So is.

We need a minimum depth for safety so people can fall and splash in the water, but any depth is, I mean, deep is good.

You're not going to hit the bottom, land and twist an ankle.

Let me ask you, do you have to learn how to swim before you log roll?

I mean, you can wear a lifejack if you want.

My daughter does

I would wear a life jacket

You would Okay, well this is exciting.

This is great.

What age do you start at you?

What are your brackets?

Is it it's gotta be eight?

the professionals any age you can turn professional Declare and you can go professional.

We have people as young as 16 in the pros then the amateur side there are age divisions So there's seven and under and then

And that's co-ed and then 10 8 to 10 boys 8 to 10 girls 11 to 13 boys and girls and then

14 to 17 boys and girls and then there's an adult sport for anyone who wants to get involved as an adult

at the competition Is it just one going on at a time?

Or is there like a bunch from going on

or so the pros will start on two docks So yeah, we're

gonna we're gonna keep you keep you around for another few minutes.

Yeah, I

said a quick break.

This is exciting stuff Katie Burke Three Rivers rollio log rolling event in Howard coming up this weekend.

Is this gonna be televised?

You know

this one is not

okay

But I've seen it televised.

It has been for five years.

I mean,

it's big time.

That's

cool.

All

right, we'll

be back right

after this.

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Yeah, growth.

Katie Burke from the Three Rivers Rolio log rolling event in Howard coming up this weekend on the on deck circle.

Joe vertigris, Scott Hansen, legendary, legendary area racer, and Mark Houston chiming in.

I got a great name for your new next segment.

It'll be called Name John's New Injury.

Name

John's New Injury.

That would be, we really can't go that long in a segment because we have to.

The brakes put in, so we can talk to the producer about that.

Hey, this is exciting stuff, Kay.

I would love to come out

and

watch you guys do this.

That's right.

I said, Kay, this is different.

And I think people want to get outside.

And this is all obviously outside.

This is an indoor, this is outside.

And, you know, the weather's going to be great this weekend.

And it's something different.

I think in the food trucks, it's just going to be a fun thing to do for, I don't know, a couple hours.

Yeah, absolutely.

I think we're going to

head out there.

We've got something else going on, but I don't

want to get out there.

I hope you can make it.

Yeah, this is going to be fun.

Now when you were okay, we got a thing here.

Do you have to be good to declare pro or it can just be a pro and suck?

You can't be a pro and suck you'll go out twice in a row in the tournament.

How competitive?

I mean this is this far away from each other basically looking at each other's feet or whatever I mean this has to get kind of personal almost doesn't

it?

It does and when you have a circuit I mean we're together

all summer, weekend after weekend, competing against each other.

It's a close-up family, but I would say it's also like siblings, where you're gonna butt in the second you get on that log, it's go time.

Isn't

the trick, I don't know, I've never done it, but the trick to like the start, to like really just jackrabbit start and throw them off?

So the second the whistle blows, you're gonna pull off the dock.

So you gotta get a safe distance away from the dock.

You step on a log, pull off, and now you're out in open water, as a picture you can see.

But as soon as the judge is going to call time in, so you have to be both balancing and get a steady start, and the judge blows a whistle.

Now, it is legal if you're both timed in, the split second that goes off to kick the log.

Rarely is this successful, but every once in a while it is.

There's a couple people who pull it off really well.

Just to knock their balance off like?

Yeah.

Instead of just, you know, gradually

getting

faster and faster, just, wow.

Or go the other way, like say, I'll go forward, you go backwards, and then just trick them.

Yeah, you can that's called give and go you're gonna fake them like you're gonna come go one way And then you go back the other way give and go

I like it a lot in Howard this coming weekend and Free admission, which is great.

That's cool.

That's

cool

food trucks a little live if you stick music up

I'm assuming they should bring your own lawn chairs

there.

We'll have some bleachers Oh,

you're bleeding out

there.

Okay, but you're welcome to bring a lawn chair if you want to be a little more fun

comfortable and what

would be considered like the hotbed the Hayward area for these kind of things when you go to where the most attendance

the most attendance is probably Hayward but the Midwest is a big log rolling bet I mean people from Hayward will go up to Squamish and British Columbia and compete and there will be some international competitors it's

when you find a place to go just this ever called because of white caps or something or do you and tell me about like

The environment, how you say this is where we're gonna go, how do you pick a spot?

Like, the quarry's awesome because that's super calm there.

Yeah.

Like, would you do it on the Fox River here?

front of

the city deck?

I think that would be a little too hard with the wake for competition.

too.

Well, last night I tried to train on the Fox River where I am and it got a little wavy for a bit.

So typically you try to find a clone body of water, a quarry, a lake, a lagoon in Gladstone.

We're in the heart, like wrap around the harbor in this little lagoon area off of Lake Michigan.

But Lake Michigan or the middle of the Fox River where you have large amounts of old traffic is not ideal.

Lakes are, again, wraparounds from larger bodies of water.

are great.

Cool thing for a small community.

Do you know because everybody's looking to get people to come and food trucks and have events and you know you can make a little bit money on beverages.

I think of a place even like Elkhart Lake.

That's a very quiet body of water on Sundays, right?

I think this is going to be fun to watch.

I'm looking forward to coming.

I hope so.

There's a lot of action.

Like I said, we're in a bracket double elimination.

We have multiple world champions coming in to compete this weekend.

We have all five of the top men.

Rollers ranked rollers in the country coming in four-time world champion Shauna Verstigans coming in Wow and up-and-coming rookie who's podiumed every tournament this season, but yet to actually win one.

I need Anderson

Okay, I gotta say one thing.

Okay,

everyone ever that I'm gonna bet on this.

I'm gonna bet on something When you talk about international world champions, I'm gonna make up a wager that the top log rollers are from Sweden I would I would say no no

The U.S.

Really?

Oh, I would have

thought like these big Danes type of guys like Sven Orgensen.

Maybe a

Lumberjack.

I would say some little guy with a

really

unbelievable sense of balance.

Like I would have thought Barbara Mayer.

No.

This takes

away some of the mystique.

I wanted to see the big Sven guys.

No?

No, I know

maybe a little more in the shopping site in

here

Do they still have all those competitions?

Absolutely.

Oh,

those are something else, aren't they?

They are.

You ever see that with the chopping things?

Those guys go through those logs like nothing.

They do, but I'll stick to the water in the summer.

It's a lot more refreshing.

Tell me

about the lessons that people can take on this.

Do you teach the lessons?

I have taught lessons at both the Kroc and the YMCA, currently teaching a little bit on and off at the YMCA.

Here

in Green Bay?

Here in Green Bay, yeah.

Awesome.

I try to teach instructors more so that we have a greater reach as opposed to me showing up for all the classes.

But at the Y, you can look on their schedules and see when you can take lessons.

The Y should be offering them again in the fall.

I think they took a little break this summer.

But you sign up for a lesson and you'll go to the Y, go into the pool area.

They'll hold the log.

So to start, they'll hold the log.

We'll talk you through how.

Get three core things of learning quick feet balance Eyes on the other end so never stop moving your feet keep your arms out like you're on a balance beam But in front and behind and then just

some gymnastic people are like really really good at this.

I'm really liking the spoken

music Like slipping off of my face hitting the log

That is so unlikely because gravity is gonna take you for a swim and you have to be good with that core to stay over the log

on my car.

Why do you keep

bringing up my car, Katie?

Because

it is

like war part of life.

Yeah,

enough from you, Katie.

Katie

Berger.

He's very smart.

Rollio Library event in Howard this weekend, July 12th.

Thanks so much.

This is

great.

It's gonna be fun.

Thanks

for

having me.

Love to watch you.

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Hey, welcome!

That was so much fun having Katie Burke here, the three rivers, rolly old log rolling event in Howard.

Coming up this weekend.

Todd, great job lighting that up.

Joe Vertigan here actually says he's going to try to compete.

There

he said

every other athletic event there is

when pigs fly.

Yeah,

exactly Jovert again and Scott Hanson Scott Hanson I just say that name and I just think about the days back at WIR coming down there on those Thursday nights or whatever great times man the red white and blue series and all the different things and man you were a competitor five time WIR champion people if you're not from this or maybe people from this look with this way people from this area

who haven't seen racing in other areas, might not understand the competitiveness and the quality of the drivers in the cars that take to the track at WIR.

Oh, I'm telling you, there was so many champions and stuff, Quickie and Watson and Trickles and lots of good guys came through that racetrack.

And that's the thing, you know, everything was the self, the self, the self.

And sometimes these guys from the South would come up and they'd be like, holy crap, these Northern boys know how to ride.

Well, Mark Martin, who did the forward for the WIR book, he says WIR is genuinely one of his favorite tracks he's ever seen.

And with Scott, he was one of the first Green Bay champion from there.

There have been two others, Mark Schrader in 96 and Chad Butts last year, who's actually from Howard, but Scott won five in a row.

And sometimes that didn't sit real well with the Dutch mafia.

He didn't have that Fox Valley zip code.

Scott, you know what

I'm talking about, right?

that Michigan people didn't enjoy.

Well, the thing is, people,

it was one of

those things though too, where it was like, even like, what's his name?

Kenseth.

man,

yeah.

Has told me that he had some animosity when he started winning down there as well.

Yeah.

It was a tough.

Duffer extract to win at because of the people that came in there.

I mean, everybody back then had the same equipment, good equipment.

So you just had to hustle your way through whatever it

took.

Scott, we're talking about racing.

It was a big deal when I was in high school.

I mean, everybody went and- Here's the

regular

at 141.

Right.

Man talked to rivers.

I think it maybe took a little bit of a lull or maybe there's just a lot more to do today than there was.

30, 40 years ago.

Joe and I were just talking.

We don't understand why it's dropping off.

There's a lot of streaming and stuff going on.

A lot of people sitting home watching it in the garage nowadays.

Maybe a lot of us are just getting older and the car guys are going away.

But it's exciting.

What I'm saying is what would it take to get people back to that?

Because I think it is more competitive.

There's more outdoor concerts.

There's log rolling things.

There's just a lot to do on a Saturday night, Wednesday night.

in this community.

I think there's more than there was years ago, but I mean, does it take somebody like you, a five-time champion, was it more the race or was it more you that they came out to see?

I'd like to think it was me.

I think it was you, but also your rivals.

There were like hardcore rivalries back then.

You know, what we did back when we raced is we not only raced hard,

We sat with the fans for hours and hours and hours and invested time with them.

You know, that was that was as much as the race ever was.

People came out of the grandstands.

We sat there.

I mean, many times till the sun came up.

And he had a

great sponsor and Budweiser too.

A really good one.

That's a great story in itself, Scott.

How he got the Budweiser sponsorship.

That's a story.

Well, they called me, you know, they wanted they wanted to go with Terry Baldry.

It's

another legendary name.

Oh, I'm telling you.

They went right down the line.

They took the guy who won the championship, was Baldry, who was my first year down there.

I run second.

Baldry family, I don't know if they even drank.

They got a Pepsi deal.

And they said, we're going to go with the Pepsi.

And I don't think they had a clue what they passed up on.

Well, Jimmy Dean and the Budweiser guns.

Dean, boys.

They invested a lot in me and we had such a good time.

Well, you paid

off for them

because I'll tell you what,

that Budweiser Kerr was on TV and in the papers an

awful lot.

Yeah.

And they did pretty well too, so.

Yeah.

Those are great guys.

Yeah, that

was.

I go back to Rustin,

the major.

Yeah.

But you know, one of the things I'll do back in your days, that was such an event, that was such a local event was to come out to the track.

Right.

I swear almost everywhere.

Well, Joe, when you were my intern, we did a live shot

every week for

there didn't yeah it was it was a big deal and like I said there was no internet back then nobody had cell phones you had to be there there was no online streaming of races and back this Budweiser thing the half of that was actually Anheuser-Busch right Scott

yep right from the and I

tell you my college dormant I moved in the fall of 87 it was Bud like this but Mackenzie that I mean they were very generous I with oh my gosh it was a it was a great sponsorship put it that way

I had to be

the DD of Spuds McKinsey won

Halloween or something.

I remember him beating in your pit one time,

the actual

dog.

What

was it like when you went to NASCAR the bigger time, I guess you want to call it, but what was that like with those people?

Different.

It's politically correct I was not.

My mouth got me in too much trouble and I enjoyed, like I just told you, I enjoyed when you were done racing, you had fun with the people and this and that.

And you had to watch so much of your P's and Q's.

And I just didn't, I'm sorry to say, but I didn't fit in.

A little more

corporate.

A lot more corporate.

And I guess if I'd have shut up, I'd have been a little higher up the ladder.

But

I think every kid though likes racing, right?

I mean, I don't

know.

would like to think that.

So what would your advice be to get into it?

Because I think that's.

I don't know,

I think

it's very cool.

Find a rich grandpa is the only way to do it.

Is that a deterrent right now?

If you don't have money, Joe and I were just talking, you go through the truck and the Xfinity series, there aren't a half a dozen guys getting actual paid.

They bring the money into that deal and they've got to siphon their money out of the sponsorship they bring in is how they're making their money to do this.

Wow.

Yeah, it's gotten so...

money-oriented.

So before Scott went to NASCAR he had the luxury in the late 80s early 90s

He made a living racing short track

cars,

like what race, through the ASA series, Art Go, which he was rookie of the year.

He was a five time winner at the Milwaukee mile as well.

Which is pretty amazing.

It is.

I mean, but guys could make a living running short tracks before he hitched up with Kenny Schrader and did the NASCAR thing.

You can't make a living running short tracks anymore.

It's the costs have gotten so high and the pay has not matched it.

It's just not feasible anymore.

I thought I was doing good.

in Wisconsin, racing for Jerry Gunnerman and Donnie Fanetti and the Baker guys.

Until I went to work for Kenny Schrader, who ran NASCAR for 25 years.

That's when I started making money.

I had no clue that those guys were getting what they were getting.

And Kenny put me on a whole different level and that's what made me

And as far as making it, that's where I'm

at.

You

say he was paid 150 cases of beer one time?

Oh, it's more than that, wasn't it?

How much beer did you get from them?

That was part of the sponsorship deal, wasn't it?

We got a pallet a week.

And went through it.

Oh, yeah.

Wow.

Oh, yeah.

But the competitiveness, is it still there in these tracks?

Because the thing is, and I know there was the different factions down there, like I remember when I first came to Green Bay, I think it was J.J.

Smiths was one of the big guys.

Yeah, hero.

J.J.

was my hero.

When I started going, I started out on dirt track.

And I watched J.J.

and Jerry Smith and Medina and Roger Paul, Roger Regis.

Those guys, those were racers.

They sat in there and they just bowled their way around there.

You know, today it's, you know, luxury riding around.

Well, that's

what I'm saying.

But they're just, you know, race the doors off with each other.

And then, but then they'd sit around the pits and talk if somebody needed a

bar,

Crescent wrench or a socket or something, they would give it to them.

But on the track, there was no, you

know, it was wide open competitive.

Like you said, if you slipped and somebody made a mistake, got into each other, somebody got wrecked, you got out and said, okay.

Don't do that or watch how you do this.

And they jumped right in and helped you fix

what you were doing.

I gotta hear one dick trickle story.

Did he really have a cigarette lighter in his car?

Oh, he had a cigarette lighter.

He had packs of cigarettes packed in this way.

He was a one of a kind that you'll just, you'll never see again.

ever in any racing era.

Telling the story about when you decided it was around 83, 83 or 82, Scott ditched the dirt and went pavement full time and Dick Trickle kind of helped you out.

Telling

that story.

I called him up one day and I said, Hey, can I, what are the chances you'd let me come over and talk me through some of the setups of some that?

And he's like, here's my address.

See you there on Tuesday.

We took a, I got a 12 pack of paps drove over there and

He had a setup book that was dang near a foot thick on his bench.

And we started drinking.

I said, okay, I'd like to know about this race track.

He says, there's the book.

Send your kid over there, paper and pencil and write down anything you want to know out of that book.

And that escalated my career so fast overnight.

I mean, here it is, the shocks, the springs, the tires, everything.

It takes years to learn that.

Pretty.

confident guy, but pretty generous, right?

To just share that with you.

He must have saw something in you as well.

Well, that and he was, he would rather keep you straight on the racetrack than you out there flipping flopping and wrecking stuff like that.

Right, right, right.

And you know, it took me a long time.

This is a quick story with trickle.

He was the man.

So he came in, he never hot lap.

He was quick time.

So finally one day we had it right.

We'll go there.

I got quick time.

He was second.

I wanted to dash, he was second.

I wanted a 25 lap feature, he was second.

We went to the bar afterwards, he came up to me, he says, man, I gotta give you so much more credit than, he says, you've come a long way.

He said, but not only that, you can really drive.

And I'm like, well, thanks.

He says, I have not seen anybody drive a car that out of control.

And he worked on me.

I went home, I changed everything in that car, stayed up till four in the morning.

Come back to the race the next day, the big race.

30 laps, I think he was lapping me because he talked me right.

He was so smart.

He talked me right out of everything I had done, but he didn't just lap me.

He pulled up alongside me.

I think we ran side by side for two or three laps until I looked over and he gave me the old, see you later.

Unbelievable.

It was crazy, but he was good.

He was good at everything he did.

I guess.

Well, you said one of the biggest changes was the cost.

Why the costs are so high now versus 30 years ago?

Is it the equipment?

It's

the equipment, and none of us understand why.

We built a car for... Right.

$30,000.

Now, I just told Joe, a new Ferry car is $125,000.

Ferry car is like the super late model that Chad Butts races on Thursday nights, for example.

Okay.

That's not cheap to race for weekly.

I mean, that's very, very cost.

And I don't know what the pay is to win now it is, but it did.

Probably a thousand.

All right, so then keep pace with

that.

Okay,

I got it.

Wow.

Yeah, it was 400 to win.

When I would win, they might get a thousand now.

And

get the car went from 30 to 120.

Yeah.

And that, I get it.

And they're the same basic part.

Right.

Yeah.

A hub

is a hub.

Yeah.

Was there anything different?

And obviously everybody's got different skills, different skill levels of whatever before we go to a break here.

But when you would race some of those other guys, even like when Bobby Allison came to the track and some of these, Mark Martin, these, these different guys, when they came there, was there anything different where you said, okay, that separates him from us?

Well,

They did it every day.

They did it every day, every day, every day.

And then they ran four or 500 mile races.

So they just got a feel, they got a look, they got to listen to that.

Was anything different?

No, it was just their amount of time in the vehicle, I

think.

But it's one of those things that's like that with all sports, like a golfer or something, same thing.

You know, some guy that grows up in Arizona, Florida versus Wisconsin who wants to be a golfer.

Oh, yeah.

You know, we learned so much, you know, from going down south.

If I wasn't racing, Carl Wagner was a huge mentor of mine.

He would send us down south, you know, with engines and stuff for these guys.

Carl was a noted engine builder in Wisconsin.

Okay.

And the year they came out with the restrictor plates.

Bobby Allison won the 500 because of something they had done.

where they tapered the gasket on the restrictor plate.

Well, we did restrictor plates.

We did the same thing.

We won 13 out of 16 races up here.

You learned.

I heard Joe's

dad did something illegal one time with your tires.

Is that true?

We're going to send her a quick

break.

Legendary Scott Hansen and Joe Verde get in the house.

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Smoke was coming from out of the back when I started getting on that Cadillac.

Knew I could catch him.

I thought I could pass.

Don't you know, by then we'd be low on gas.

Hey, welcome

back.

Mine of the mirror here.

We've got a great, great couple of great guests.

Joe Vernegan and Scott Hansen.

Scott legendary racer.

And Joe, of course, a legendary author of racing and legendary announcer.

How many, we got five gigs this week or something, Joe?

Announcing three nights and five days tonight.

Got to go back home and do Eagle River if it doesn't rain.

And then Seymour from

Friday and 141 Speedway Saturday.

Good for you,

man.

Got a question here from Todd DePierre.

Hey, Scott, how prevalent is knowingly cheating in NASCAR racing?

It takes place.

And don't just don't think it doesn't.

You know, they've gotten so smart, you know, they're if they cheat, they do five things.

to give the official something to catch so that they don't look at the ones that they really matter.

But it happens, trust me.

Oh yeah.

There's so much money involved in all of them,

huh?

Isn't that mind

boggling?

Oh God.

A cup deal today is just, I think it's one big reason Stewart got out of it because they said this car was going to be

the fix all for the owners and everything, and it turned out to be just the opposite of what they caused.

No.

What's one of those things though too?

It's like, you know, every couple of years, okay, Chevy's got this something, Ford's got this something, Toyota's got this something.

It's like there's such a competitiveness amongst the engineering of these cars now, isn't

it?

Tenths of a second is what they're looking for.

They're not looking for this and that tenths of a second.

There's more engineers in a pit crew than there are workers for the car.

You know, you go to a race, a NASCAR race, I was just in Phoenix here last fall.

There's a table, gotta be eight engineers, all on computers, all looking at different parts of the car, different things.

If you're an engineer, you can make it in NASCAR world.

Well, even, you know, that's the thing, we've got the one kid from the UP that.

was made a big time for a junior's car, didn't he?

Oh, Greg Ives.

Yeah.

And I mean,

you know, normally, or back in the day, you'd be, oh, this guy is a grease monkey and he's, you know, good with cars.

You know, he's Michigan tech, mechanical engineering degrees.

And even as I was watching the Chicago race the other day, one of the cars stalled out and they were trying to pull out the computer from the car to

bring

it into the shop and they just plug it in now for the whole thing.

Yeah.

So Scott, with that said, though, with the eight engineers and this team of mechanics, like, where does the driver come in?

You're flying a spaceship.

I mean, you've got an unbelievably piece of equipment that you're in control.

They all sit in these simulators nowadays, and that's how they learn to race.

That's how you train that.

That simulator time is so key.

They've been a pilot now.

Dick

Trickle just raced.

He never, you'd never see Dick Trickle never practice.

He would just race,

you know.

William Byron, who was as good as they come in the NASCAR world,

I don't think he did all of his video racing and stuff.

That's how he got his ride is unreal through the video games.

I know.

Yeah.

We were just

talking about this morning about the video games, how it's just, it, it's just a different way of learning, right?

I mean, we,

it is, you know, and the cars are, you know, you don't know what you don't know, right?

Right.

These kids come in, you know, they're, they sit in these simulators and like I said, these engineers, they set that car up.

You get the exact feeling sitting in that simulator as you do on a race.

They got the cracks in the racetrack on these simulators.

They got the bumps.

They've got everything down to the thousands.

We didn't have that when you started.

I couldn't say simulator.

In 1975?

They didn't have simulators.

What year did you start?

Got 1975?

About that time, huh?

Did

you

peer?

Deep here, Wisconsin did six or seven years of dirt track off and on, not nothing full time.

Couldn't afford it.

Well, yeah, and you have to have a job, right?

His break actually came meeting a guy to car wash by the name of Steve Marlar and tell him that story.

Yeah, every Sunday morning we'd go wash the car up here on Fisk and Mason Street.

And one Sunday morning, Steve Marlar owned an insurance company.

come walk in and he says, what's it gonna take for you to stay out of this car wash?

He said, I love, this is my time away to come in and wash my Mercedes

every Sunday.

And the kid with me said, just buy us an asphalt

car.

And he says, really?

And I'm like, yeah, Richie Waters.

Oh, sure.

Good as they come.

Big

name, yeah.

Buy us an asphalt car.

Steve sat there for about 10 seconds.

He says, my office is right next door.

Be there at nine o'clock tomorrow morning.

We were there.

You gotta be kidding

me.

And the

rest is history.

That's unbelievable.

Right place, right time.

So with all those years, all those races, all those awards, she'd been asked this a million times, but you got a favorite?

My Milwaukee races and my Phoenix races are probably the most prestigious ones and the who of who's who were always

those.

It was fun to go out there and beat the best.

I didn't race against 20 of the same guys.

We chased money races, so back in the day, there was 40, 50 guys at every race, and we went coast to coast, border to border.

I know you were too busy to notice this, but when I worked in Arizona, I used to cover the race at PIR.

International Raceway.

I just want to say on those really hot days, the scenery was really nice.

Then really, thanks for what you did for that whole industry, right?

Because we talk about how, you know,

every

industry has ebb and flows, but I mean, you were part of the flow on that.

Had a blast doing it and just can't wait to get back and just keep watching these guys evolve and what they're doing today.

Okay, one last thing about PIR on some of those races, they'd have the, I mean, Sunday at Phoenix International Raceway, a thunderly pounding thing.

Ladies and Haltertops, get in half price.

Sure story.

Scott Henson, thanks so much for being here, buddy.

Anytime, boys.

Joe,

also, you've been bringing us such great guests.

Please keep it going.

I'll work on Jerry Munster next.

Thank you.

Tell everybody about your books.

Oh, well jovertigan.com got a lot of racing books, True Crime, The Reformatory, and we got the Monfile Six book coming out in December.

Stay tuned.

How's that coming

along, Joe?

It's coming along well.

In fact, from here, I'm going to have lunch with a couple of people that worked at the mill, and we're going to do some interviews for the book, but it's coming very quick.

We're setting up a book signing tour in December at a lot of locations in and around Green Bay, so.

I want this show to be your first interview before it comes out.

You got it.

Tell Pai I said hello.

Well, thank you guys.

Thank you so much for a quick break back up this

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Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your hosts, John Minow and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Jim has to take up.

Go teach his class.

Headlines with the press times.

John Kramer into house.

We're talking about something very cool.

But first I want to say once again, thanks to Joe vertigo and Scott Hansen, legendary stock car racer and Joe, of course, who's done so much to promote stock car racing in the area.

It's absolutely unbelievable.

They were just fantastic to have on.

Katie Burke, three rivers, rolly old log growing event in Howard taking place this weekend.

That sounds so cool.

I'm challenging John Kramer.

He and I to do that.

Todd, who would you put your money on?

Absolutely, John is who I. Mino?

John I

used

able to ride a unicycle.

Did you really?

Yeah, I was that nerdy kid

Well, you've got some very special guests in here for headlines of the press times.

It's the monk community events taking place Manu and to welcome.

Thank you.

It's pleasure to be here.

Great

to have you What have you got going on?

Well, most recently, just a couple of weeks ago, John was at one of our events where it was our first year collaborating with On Broadway.

My passion foundation is the nonprofit's name for the Mung Organization that we are board members of.

And we just love being able to bring this event to the community.

for free, which is amazing.

And so with the right collaborations and resources, we were able to create this event that actually exceeded our expectation.

The weather was not the greatest, but people still showed up, stayed through the rain, danced in the rain and had a great time.

The weather has been the greatest for any events this summer.

It's just crazy, isn't it?

It rained a lot.

Unbelievable.

You know, it's so admirable, though, with you folks come over.

What 50 years now probably 50 years from from Southeast Asia and what you've established in communities and how strong you have all stayed together to support one another to help one another to the way you have all thrived.

It's it's a pretty amazing American story.

Wouldn't you say?

I mean, you have to be proud of it.

I would definitely say so.

I mean, in 50 years, we've got senators, mayors, lawyers, doctors and then local.

business professionals in the area here as well too.

And that's a great accomplishment in 50 years.

Do they ever talk, your parents ever talk about, you know, how cool you guys have it now?

Maybe your kids have it versus what it was like when they first came over and dealing with this weather and all the different things.

Oh yeah, they're always talking about high expectations, right?

Everyone's dream is for their kid to be a doctor or lawyer.

And you know, there's a lot.

to just be very thankful for, you know, we're always happy to have the support of our elders and to have them kind of just help push us so that we can continue to be the best that we can be here.

You're talking about your event that you had.

Talk a little bit about that.

Yeah, so it was a collaboration that kind of started last summer.

Fatma from on Broadway, she actually reached out to my dance academy to come perform as a placeholder.

And so we came to perform at the LaVette concert series.

And then from there, they wanted to hear community input.

using, you know...

that we thought could really bring people out.

And we were so happy that they took a chance on us and really just, you know, it was our first year.

So we didn't know what to really expect.

We didn't want to over-promise anything, but we're very grateful for this partnership with On Broadway that they believed in us and supports us.

And we did it.

And, you know, it was, I believe, when we met last, there was over, like, 500, 600 people that showed up for this one.

That's

awesome.

It was awesome, yeah.

How is it taking the culture?

Moving it forward.

I mean, you're similar now.

You're, you know, you're like I said, you're just a guy lives in Bellevue.

But you know what I mean?

To make sure that the young coming up don't lose the traditions.

It's very special.

I mean, I was born in a refugee camp.

So I was a month old, came to the United States, lived in Chicago, the most diverse city ever.

And then the early nineties moved to Green Bay.

You saw it was very different at the time.

But I called myself a lifelong Green Bay.

Right.

No, you know, and I don't see myself moving out of here.

We always joke at 13, 14, as soon as I hit 18, I'm gone.

You know, this town is too small for me.

But the longer that we stay here, the more you take pride in belonging and being a part of the community.

And I think with this event here, it did a lot because a lot of our local entertainers for the event was all local people within 20, 30 miles and to see the talent that we have here.

And again, this is on an entertainment level, but the professionals that we have in the area that have said

I'm making Northeast Wisconsin my house.

This is where I belong now.

For myself, I'm a realtor and I love it.

Every time I get to help someone buy a house and stay in Northeast Wisconsin, I know they're going to be contributing good contributing members to society as well.

Do you ever talk with your parents or did you talk about that?

Or did they not want to talk about the, as my parents, you say about Italy, the old country.

My dad loves it.

He was 18.

So I mean, for him coming in at 18, not knowing what to do, getting his technical degree, working in Chicago.

And so I moved here to Green Bay and worked for the community as a community relations person for the Old Monk Center of Green Bay.

He loved everything about it.

Then he eventually left and started his own business.

So he wants to talk about the progression of what happens in the 45 years he's been here.

It's very special to hear them talk about it.

I now have kids of my own and to try to tell them, hey, there's more to it than just go to school, get your degree and work.

There's a legacy of the hard work of what your family and ancestors have done.

What I want to know is how did the Hmong community get so good at volleyball?

How did that... So I originally met her at the Hmong New Year at...

Edison

yeah, so

you're a teacher at Lombardy, correct?

Yes.

Yep.

They're like, Mrs. Vang, can you do one year for us too?

Can you come over here and help us too?

Because they all...

crave that, you know, they want to know about their identity.

They want to feel a sense of belonging.

And so to have my principals and the district be able to support me and my vision and to continue to help me grow that vision, to become something this big, it's been amazing.

And so last year, we were able to host Mung New Year at the biggest middle school, which is Addison Middle School here.

And it was great.

We had over a thousand people that showed up.

Wow.

Yeah.

For just one day, John came in, was amazing, took pictures too.

And we were kind of

scattered a little bit because there was two floors of events and so as people kind of it's free-flowing but we had cornhole we had volleyball we had dance performances

We had a documentary specialist called Ning Nao, who actually went to Southeast Asia to do studies and research about monk instruments.

And we watched his video that he created.

It was just an all around great day.

And we just had a blast, you know, to hear everyone enjoyed it and bringing the community together just makes a smile.

And so it's great.

I think the best part about that event was

our our mom kids don't really know I always tell my sons if you don't know why we're here then you've got some history yeah that's what I was kind of asking a little bit earlier

if they are they interested that do they want to know yes

yeah they really yeah I think most recently one of our programming sets in the works is um

Do you I mean

They pretty much did.

And I, it was telling someone earlier, um, it's stuff that's not taught in books.

Right.

That's what I mean.

I mean, it's, it's brutal.

I moved here from Chicago in the early nineties.

And there was a big monk population, but no one really understood who the monk was here, right?

Exactly.

Right.

The Vietnam vets knew.

Yeah, the veterans knew.

The Vietnam vets knew, and they had

all the respect in the world up to hear that.

As a kid, 12, 13-year-old walking down the streets and having a Vietnam veteran come up to you and say, hey, thank your family for what you did, or I would still not be here myself.

That's awesome.

That was very powerful.

But I think in our society, too, as time goes by, I have two boys, they're 22 and 20 right now.

they don't know anything else besides what everybody else knows.

So it's very important.

But that's, I think it is because I think we as all Americans need to do more to let people know exactly why you're here, why you came here, why you had to leave your country.

I mean, you were forced out or you would have been killed and what it took for your parents and your grandparents for them somehow to persevere

to escape and for you to be sitting right here and for your kids to be sitting where they are and all these kids at Edison or whatever.

It's an amazing story, a perseverance.

Imagine leaving your home with nothing but the clothes on your back.

Nothing.

It's just-

And imagine being chased, literally chased through the jungles for weeks and months on end.

It's impossible for us

to- Us to realize it.

To conceptualize it and to understand what a people has gone through.

And for what you did and-

to a man, whenever I talk about them, they can tell a story about, you know, a helicopter that was shot down or something.

And they were thinking they were just an NVA territory and they were done for.

And all of a sudden, a monk patrol would show up and take them and hide them for safety until a Lerp unit would come and find them.

I think the part that most people don't know is you're asking for among men, but...

These are among teenagers, 13, 14, 15-year-olds that were out there rescuing people.

So there's a lot of PTSD that goes on because of that.

And tough issues that are around because of that.

All bet.

We got a text here, such a great event at Edison.

I got to briefly explain to a guy who was up from Plymouth to throw bags about diversity in Green Bay Area Public Schools.

Okay, Brian, but you one of those events you know what it was kind of John another another event You covered was out at Oh nighta correct where they're having they reminded me of the same things as far as with the dance and the young kids in the culture and Making sure that stays alive with the young.

I think that was very cool But I thought both events were very similar didn't you John in covering a both?

Yeah, the the oh night of pow wow and I'm waiting to hear confirmation from those folks because they should be here next week Okay, cool.

What a what an amazing event

If you live here in the area and have never had a chance to get out there, you know, find out what it is next year and and check it out.

Absolutely.

If you can do one thing for me, just confirm that I have a really bad cold.

So when I weasel out of the corporate event tomorrow, there's a

reason why I'm sitting so far away from you and you smell like a jar of vixen.

He's just trying to get out of the corporate event tomorrow.

Chris is probably listening my editor.

So just.

confirm that I have a really bad cold.

He looks fine, Chris.

He's fine.

I'm dying here.

We think his voice sounds great

for radio.

Yeah.

Manu and two, can you stick around?

Definitely.

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Il John Kramer here, headlines of the press times, Manu and Tu from the Hmong community events.

You guys were talking about the community, bringing everybody together like that.

Do you ever talk about with your parents that you almost had to do that for support back in the day?

Because like I said, when my family moved over from Italy and other families moved over from like, you know, Germany or wherever, they all lived kind of together because this strange new world, they needed that support in a lot of ways.

Do your families talk about that?

Oh, yeah.

Mung people are very family oriented.

Yeah.

Where they stay with their clans a lot.

And sometimes when, you know, someone goes somewhere and say, hey, there's job opportunities.

It's great over here.

Then the whole clan moves over, you know, and like they all go together as a unit.

Back in Laos and Thailand, you know, people stay based on their clans and then you would go, this is the villages of the Vings or this is the villages of the Yangs and stuff like that.

So as we came here, you started seeing that and, you know, being a realtor, I hear people, there's more extended families living together now.

Yeah.

I mean.

when I came here in the 90s, it was my grandpa and my uncles and then their kids and maybe another cousin somewhere.

So it was all family-based.

I was working with a veterans group out of Appleton and they were pushing hard to try to get veterans' rights for the mung that fought for our country.

Is that still going on, do you guys know?

I know there's still pushes for it.

I think part of it is that property has gotten older and there's not that much of it.

You know voice anymore.

Yeah, but I think that's important.

I mean they gave their lives for our country I mean that's you know to help our servicemen.

I think that's an important aspect.

I really truly do So I hope that goes through somehow

that definitely

by the way, you know what you guys got to get John I'll tell you what you got to get John when I went to one of my clients my monk clients in Appleton Okay, and a bad cold and I walked in one day

and they were cooking something, and everything cleared up.

My sinuses cleared, my throat cleared, everything cleared, and they gave me some of that sauce.

It was, it's like, it almost looks like chili peppers.

And I put that in chili, and that like cured me.

So if you guys have that, it's like chili flakes, it's so hot, it's incredible, but it will clear you up, John, like you can't believe.

I need something.

I'm dying here.

I might have some upstairs.

I'll go try to get yourself.

Isn't it ironic we have the Lysol wipes right in there?

Just give that to John as a parting gift.

He's

blowing his nose with them.

John, you've been doing great stuff for the press times.

I mean, they've got you busy.

You've been really going all over the place.

Yeah.

So this weekend, I'm talking to some of the Holstein royalty.

So yeah, gonna meet them out at a local farm and do a little interview with the...

Queen of Holsteins and her court, so.

But I

mean, you seem to really be enjoying this.

I mean, you started out as a photographer, as an intern or whatever.

Now you're writing, you're doing everything.

You got all the, you know, you got the cool aspect it seems like with the paper.

Well, what I try to do is find stuff that interests me before I get assigned stuff that doesn't.

Right.

So.

Welcome to the media.

Yeah, I try to find things that are basically interest me or are fun or just fun to photograph or video rather than.

being stuck with something.

Don't go to city council meetings and things like that.

She knows I like the warm feel good stories.

So I'm fortunate word that that's where she usually.

Okay, you

got to get back to something you mentioned.

You mentioned why are they so good in volleyball?

didn't get the full answer on that one.

We didn't.

Seriously.

So I was at the New Year event, they had volleyball going on and then the concert, they had volleyball going on.

And these kids can get in the air.

I mean, it's crazy.

How did volleyball

get so involved with the monk community.

How'd that?

I'll let Tulon talk about that because he does a lot of my volleyball coronations.

For me, on a personal story, I started at 13, you know, just I grew up in Chicago and it was along the beach.

You see people playing all the time.

But in our community, I think people just automatically stereotypically put you with soccer.

And there was just guys like, I was like, I can't run all day.

But I think in Asia, Volvo is also very popular.

So as we came over and just started going through the generations, but it became more coordinated.

I mean, again, I started at 13, I stopped playing at 40 because my body wouldn't let me do it anymore.

But coordination and passing on what you know, teaching.

The next generation and I think it's kind of kind of it's kind of like the family thing as well, too, right?

You want to pass on your legacy to your next generation?

So at the Monday or the David Levitt production I had my nephew help me run it, you know, and it was very I had a lot of pride because I knew that it was okay I'm passing on to my nephew teaching and how to be organizational and stuff like that But he got back and he just had one request was can I just take a picture with David Yang, you know?

the entertainer.

But I think it just was something that we just always just did and kept passing on.

And as you start doing more, it becomes more organized and more competitive.

So the skills really.

What

is the major sport?

What would be the, because when you could see yourself, Thailand or Laos?

I could serve myself more tight.

I'm tight.

Okay.

Cause I was born there, but I'm more because soccer is huge there, isn't it?

Soccer is everything.

Yeah.

I mean, that's huge.

I mean, but I, again, I grew up in America.

So what am I?

Sitting in the Packard chair.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, I'll tell you what, whenever you guys have other events coming up, please let us know.

We'd love to promote this as much as humanly possible.

One thing I wanted to ask, have you, do you know about that?

What's the flower garden outside of Denmark?

Is it a community flower garden?

run by a group of mungs right along the highway there.

You ever stop there?

I've always wanted to stop in because their flowers are unbelievable.

I think they do farmers market.

Oh,

is that the farmers market?

Oh, they don't sell them there then, huh?

Oh, they

grow them there and then bring them down here because they're unbelievable.

Oh, that's beautiful.

I just drove by that the other time and it's like, oh my God, this is unbelievable.

Where is it?

Just outside of Denmark.

Between here and Denmark.

I don't even know what highway that is.

All right.

Not 41.

That's the

other one.

Okay.

It's like, if you went by Twin Oaks Golf Course, okay, whatever that's on.

I'll look for that.

Okay.

Yeah, please do.

There's your next story that you can do before somebody assigns.

I'm serious, John.

You

gotta check that out.

They're unbelievable.

No, it's really, really cool.

I'll find it.

All right.

How come there's not a good Hmong restaurant here in town?

There is.

It's growing.

Yeah, it's growing.

We've got four or five of them now right across the street.

They're Asia Fusion Cafe, Arkandeli, Fo One.

And for large, it's growing.

You know, it's amazing.

Seven years ago, you had hardly none.

And then what do

you consider the best one?

Oh, I go to all of them.

He's got stock at

all.

Hey, it's great having you guys here.

John, thanks for bringing them.

This wonderful Manu and to the monk community events.

Anytime you have something coming on, we'd love to have you back on.

Thank

you, John.

I got nothing.

John, stop breathing in my studio.

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It's easy to take Mino and the Mayor wherever you go.

Now back to Mino and the Mayor.

Here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much very special.

How are you good?

Thanks for having us.

Yeah.

Well, I'm not very good

Why is

that because I was all excited about this menu?

Okay, and let's look at some of these great things you have in your menu and you've said you've changed it now We have because I had like three things.

I want to come down an order right away What were those tell me about them?

Well, I'll be honest with you at the waterfront burger itself sounded really good.

Okay, it's a big one I thought that I wanted to try the smoked schnitzel.

I want to try the steak.

Apoie.

Well, our new steak, so...

We have a wonderful partnership with Barry Molot from Molot in Green Bay here.

Molot

Meats.

Molot Meats, yeah, Molot Distributing.

All of our beef is actually now coming from the state of Wisconsin.

So born, bred and butchered.

So 94% of all cattle farms in the state are dairy farms.

So only 6% are for beef consumption.

And we're fortunate enough to work with Barry.

He produces a great product for us.

So we're using some beautiful filet from Barry.

We're doing a chimichurri marinated skirt steak, which is...

Fantastic.

It's in a skirt steak sandwich.

We're also serving it as an entree with some grilled zucchini and some, uh, some fingerling potatoes.

Really delicious.

Nice.

Do you know which county in Wisconsin has more cows than people?

Oh, we're going to play a little quiz.

This is our

trivia question this morning.

Trivia question.

I'm going to guess, is it Marathon County?

No.

Okay.

You

gotta have a guess.

Are you from Wisconsin?

Come on,

Adriana.

Oh my gosh.

I don't know.

I'm drawing a

blank.

don't remember.

And we didn't know this earlier this morning.

The mayor told us this.

Yeah.

Kiwani County has five cows for every human.

Interesting.

So now you know.

Now we know.

Now we

know.

You can use that one day at work.

Everybody think you're the smartest.

Let's back up just a little bit because the

This hotel's been in Oshkosh for quite some time, many, many years, but it's just kind of been taken over, remodeled, and now it's this wonderful location right on the waterfront.

And correct us right across the bridge from our

studio.

Absolutely, yeah.

Our WISO studio.

So tell us a little bit about where it's at right now as opposed to the past.

Well, we've completely rebranded into a Marriott property, so the hotel is

received a multi-million-dollar overhaul.

So really from soup to nuts, all of the rooms have been renovated, the entire Great Room Bar have been renovated.

We're going to be the only Marriott in Wisconsin with an M Club, which is for all of their titanium and ambassador clients, for those who are looking for an exceptional high-quality experience.

That's really what we're all about, is bringing that beautiful Marriott experience and then also

projecting that through the food and the ambient, you know.

environment of the restaurant.

Can I tell you that if Todd comes there or when he comes there, I guarantee I'm gonna tell you what he's gonna order.

Okay, what is it?

Spotted cow fry, walleye

sandwich.

Anything that has Spotted Cow in the menu, I'm there.

So it's cool, you know, a lot of what we tried to do with the menu is bring a lot of locality to everything that we're doing.

So we've highlighted a bunch of things with little state icons.

So using fresh cheese curds, using local beer, using local beef.

So our burger blend is a blend of chuck,

short rib brisket.

just for us from, and again, in the state of Wisconsin.

But we're really going to be focused on pizza.

Pizza

is going to be.

I got to just one quick question for you and then go on for there.

What is semolina and cornmeal crust?

Yeah, so.

Tavern style pizza is what we're really trying to accomplish.

And what I've found is in my time in Oshkosh is there's not really a lot of great pizza.

You know, you have a couple of places that have bar pies, and then everything else is your big box, dominoes, you know.

pizza hut, whatever.

You know, so I'm really trying to bring some flair to Oshkosh with this pizza program.

And Semolina is a type of flour that is a little bit more coarse than your traditional all purpose white flour.

It brings a really nice rigidity and texture to the crust.

And traditionally in the land of our friendly Illinois brethren, you know, the the bar pie is a is a

thin crust pizza that has that cornmeal dust on the bottom, really just gives a really nice crispy, really crispiness to the crust.

So there's no flop to the pizza.

You know, we're using belgioso, whole milk mozzarella.

So,

you know, again, it's trying to do as much in-state local as possible.

Okay, so I have to ask, because when I grew up,

Our Sunday meal was polenta polenta for sure.

Of course.

So do you cook it that same way where you stir for like an hour because my dad would stand there and stir for like an hour till he was sweating in it and then take it

out.

So cornmeal is where we're how we're using it is we're literally just dusting the base of the pizza in the cornmeal.

So it gives it a touch of texture on the crust side.

We're actually getting this beautiful new oven.

It's arriving today as soon as we I leave here.

I'm going back to the hotel.

I'm so excited.

We have a pizza master oven coming which.

is like the Cadillac of pizza oven.

Oh my God, Mino,

you've always

wanted to have a pizza

oven.

I know, I know.

Quiet,

Todd.

I'm working on it

here.

So they're amazing pieces of equipment.

They go up to, like, 850 degrees.

It's a Stonehearth oven.

Oh,

wow.

we have the ability to not only make pizzas, but bake breads, do paninis and sandwiches in there as well.

So I'm super jacked.

It's been a long time coming to get this oven, but super excited to have the right equipment.

But really, the semolina, it starts with any traditional pizza dough recipe where you're taking hot water, yeast, sugar.

letting that bloom, then adding the semolina flour.

We actually use a little bit of bread flour and AP flour as well in our mix.

We let that proof overnight.

And then the next day, we basically roll it out in semolina and then pass it through a sheeter.

So something, one of my biggest grievances for pizza places, especially for hand toss is that the crust isn't always consistent.

There's cold spots or there's like, there's little bubbles or places where the pizza will have a little bit of dip where like the crust just

This isn't set up as well.

So by using a cheater, it's consistently the same texture every single time.

When I come there, I'm going to get the Lily Lou.

The Lily Lou.

It's named after my daughter.

She's

big.

She's big on prosciutto.

So anytime

you have prosciutto on this,

prosciutto, burrata, you know, it's, it's, it's really what she loves to eat.

So the, the, the Benito is my son and he's anytime we go for pizza, he's the barbecue chicken pineapple pizza guy.

So I had to, had to give a little nod out to the kids in the menu.

They, they're.

big pizza fanatics and super excited to bring this concept to Oshkosh.

Now, I gotta be honest with you, the one thing that you got on your menu for toppings that I've never seen before on a pizza, asparagus.

Oh, that sounds really good.

Yeah.

So, you know, a lot of what the menu is, you know, we're in the Marriott.

So we need to have, it can't just be pizza.

So we have a full list of bar appetizers, sandwiches, soup salads and entrees.

And, you know, for me,

It really brings a little bit of uniqueness to a topping.

I love asparagus.

I think that especially coming into the season, I mean, we're right at the tail end of asparagus where we can get at the local farmer's market.

You're just seeing it kind of beginning of July tail off.

But asparagus just works really well.

We have it on our surf and turf plate as well.

So for those people looking for a unique vegetarian option in toppings, it was kind of a no-brainer.

So what does that taste like?

Is it grilled based?

the asparagus first or yeah absolutely

so we're basically wrote we'll end up roasting it in the hearth oven

okay

so when you hit it at a really high temperature uh we'll we'll coat it in a little bit of olive oil kosher salt uh black pepper and then just give it a like a char um and then you'll finish it on the pizza

because the romania sounds good

Not Romagna.

Romagna.

So that's actually like a very popular sandwich in Rome.

So if you go to Rome, it's a focaccia.

Roman pizza is focaccia pizza.

So they basically cook it in a pan and then they're big on their vegetables as well.

So the Romagna has pesto, roasted peppers, olives, asparagus, and slow roasted tomatoes.

So again, really trying to hit that vegetarian and give everybody else an opportunity to enjoy food.

that they might not always enjoy.

So, Chef, you talked

about your kids and how they play a part in what you create, right?

For sure.

What's your background?

What's your family life like?

Where are you in the area?

He drove up from Kohler this morning.

Oh, wow.

Not even from Oshkosh.

Thank

you for that.

Oh, of course.

So I've been in Wisconsin for the last 16 years.

So I practically feel like I'm a

Scotty.

All right.

can see it.

So again, I'm originally from Illinois, which is where the Tavern Style Pizza House drove.

I figured that.

by looking at the menu.

You

know, again, that's

why

I say

we're fibs.

We're

friendly, Illinois brothers, right?

I don't know what else it would ever stand

for.

Thank you.

You know, I moved up here.

I've been doing fine dining for the last, you know, for the first 10 years of my career.

Were you in

Kohler?

Well, I worked in Kohler for five years.

I worked at the American Club.

I was the executive chef and

restaurant manager.

My son worked for about five years at, is it Tavern on the Lakes?

Tavern on Woodlakes?

Tavern on Woodlakes.

He was fired three times by Herb Kohler.

Oh,

yeah?

Yeah.

And Herb Kohler's wife told Herb to be quiet and rehire them each time.

Mr. Kohler, I've actually had some awesome interactions with him.

I've done some tastings for him where he's been taking notes off of what you say.

So he really always respected somebody in a chef coat.

And then when you do a tasting with him and you're not in the chef coat, he does like, who are you?

What do you know?

And I'm like, Mr. Kohler, I'm the chef.

He goes, well, where's your chef coat?

my experience in Kohler was phenomenal.

I still live there.

That was back in 2010 through 20.

2015.

After that, I went to Blue Harbor.

So I

was at Blue

Harbor right on the lake for five years, overseeing all food and beverage operations and culinary operations there.

And then the last five years prior to joining Scarlet Hotel Group, I was the executive chef for the Milwaukee Brewers.

So, you know, my favorite foods are hot dogs and cheeseburgers and locks and bagels and pot stickers.

So, you know, and as a kid, if you looked at like my five year old drawings, what I wanted to be when I grew up, I wanted to be a baseball player.

That was the closest thing that I could get at that time in my life.

So for the brewers team or for the organization?

For

the organizations.

I oversaw a culinary for concessions, sweets,

tailgates,

catering, restaurants.

It was a blast.

It was an amazing point in my career.

Quantity food production driven.

I had nine chefs working for me.

It was really, really fantastic.

At the height.

In 2020 end of 2023, we were nominated second best food in the in the nation for stadium food across all platforms.

So Pat, my own back a little bit was, you know, really proud of my team and made a made a big impact in Milwaukee.

Really enjoyed my time there, but was itching to get back into a more, I guess you'd say well rounded food portfolio.

And Scarlet is giving me that opportunity to really bring some some creation, not only to Oshkosh, but really to the vision of

the organization.

When they interviewed you for the job at the Brewers, did you admit that you'd been a Cubs fan?

You know, we didn't

talk about that.

I actually had to do a tasting at Lambo and I asked them to borrow a hat because I didn't have a hat and they gave me a packer's head and I'm like, do you have a Lambo hat that I can try?

No, but they're a good group of dudes up there at Lambo as well, still talk to

them.

Well, I gotta tell you one thing though.

Cause I was a sports caster for a hundred years, whatever.

And you'd go into the locker room after the game, so obviously whatever.

Those guys eat well in their post game, don't they?

You know, they eat five times a day.

It's

unbelievable.

It's crazy.

They pre, a breakfast, pre-batting practice, post-batting practice, pre-game post game.

And then a spread.

And then you get like $300 per diem to go have a meal.

That is not a bad

life.

Every club deciding a little bit different.

Like the, I want to say the Dodgers and the Yankees actually travel with a chef.

So, like, we wouldn't have to cater

for the

chef in that regard.

Oh, yeah.

You guys

see these spreads?

Big market teams, you know, they can afford that.

Whereas, you know, with the Brewers, they're very analytical based.

They actually had a nutritionist who was kind of planning out all of the meals for the team and obviously very big meat and bean people and rice people.

So that's what

I do.

I want, when you come back, I want to talk about how the community is embracing the changes and the restaurant and all that kind of stuff.

For sure.

And then I want to talk about getting a

picture of that oven when it comes in today, because my note is gonna

be salivating all over the

place.

I'm so Jan.

This oven's so amazing, I gotta tell ya.

Chef Lauren Rue, back after this.

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This is Mino and the Mayor.

Now, here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

This is a lot of fun.

We're talking with some great people here from a great restaurant.

And Lauren, we're going to talk a little bit more about the great things you got going on.

But first, I'm going to tell you again what Todd is going to order for breakfast.

Also, I want to know if they're going to put Johnny juice on the

menu.

We'll talk after

the

show.

Todd is going to order the butter biscuit beer brought breakfast skillet.

or secret recipe, biscuits, blanket, and spotted called brats.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, it's a spotted-crow gravy.

I mean, again, we're in the state.

How can you not use the nectar of the gods?

I mean, I hate to say this.

You might be my new favorite place in the world.

Oshkosh, Marriott, Waterfront, Hotel and Conference Center, their grand opening coming up for the restaurant, Anchor and Port.

That's coming up on the 29th, right?

It is, yeah.

High noon, correct?

Is it noon o'clock?

Very excited about that.

restaurant is just beautiful.

We have an amazing staff and really excited.

I mean, all we have a whole bunch of new equipment coming in this week.

I think I mentioned that a little bit ago.

If you didn't know, I'm a little excited about it.

But no, the breakfast, you know, again, we're a full service hotel.

So whether you want breakfast, lunch or dinner, we are open.

We do have, you know,

I would consider it probably just the greatest assortment of breakfast foods that really anyone would want.

So you have your standard breakfast.

We're using Joan's Dairy Farm Sausage.

We're using Newskies Bacon out of Wittenberg.

Best bacon in the world.

Shout out Tanya Newski if you're listening.

What's up?

using fresh stone cut oats from ants and mills.

We have, again, that skirt steak and eggs using that chimichurri marinated skirt steak.

And then probably my favorite thing on the menu, there's a restaurant up in St.

Germain that unfortunately closed this past season.

It's called Wolfpack Cafe, and they had the best pancakes in the world.

Their slogan was peace, love and pancakes.

And they unfortunately are retired, but I've tried my best to replicate their pancakes as best as possible.

And they're just, they're fantastic.

if they're flapjack, so they're thinner than a pancake, thicker than a crepe, they're gooey, they're delicious.

We also have fresh Wisconsin maple syrup that you can throw on them.

And then we're basically taking fresh blueberries, making a compote out of those with a little bit of raw sugar.

Just amazing.

We talked about gooey and delicious.

I gotta tell me about the bananas foster waffle.

Yeah, I mean, waffles are amazing.

And bananas foster is basically

rum and caramel and bananas.

And it's flambé to order.

So, uh, we're, it's just, it's, it's an amazing, amazing waffle topping.

How's that?

I was going to ask you, sorry, John.

No, go ahead.

How's the community embracing this?

As I told you before we went on the air, like, I'm excited because it's a great location.

You're right on the river, right on the water there.

Beautiful sunrises coming up over the water.

It's a great location and.

we finally have something there that seems like it's going to be worthy of being there.

Yeah, you know, it's really exciting because we're just finishing our third phase of construction.

So we're just finishing our ballroom inside the hotel in our private dining spaces.

So we really haven't

spoken to the community.

This

is really kind of our, our, our, our launch, if you will, to, to get to that, that finish line of the grand opening.

We haven't, we haven't done a lot as it relates to sharing this with the community.

It's all just been word of mouth, but very excited to start getting into some press, you know, some media coverage, uh, really exploiting the menus.

I mean, the menus speak for themselves.

Uh, the service,

reading this

menu, it's, it's fun.

It's fun to write, you know, like I said,

mentioned the, what is it?

It's the butter biscuit beer brought breakfast skillet.

And I think

we're going to switch the word skillet to bowl.

And if you look at the

menu,

says in very small print at the bottom, say

that three times

fast, right?

So, you know, it's meant to be fun and approachable.

We want people to come in and and feel at home and and and feel really comfortable dining inside or outside on the patio.

I mean, we have an amazing patio space.

There are seven boat port or seven docks.

So, you know, anyone who's fishing on Lake Winnebago.

or on the Fox River or in the Fox Lake can literally drop anchor at the port, pull up a table, sit at the bar and have a full service menu, whether it's pizza or a sandwich or a snack.

And just what we say is docked, dined and delivered.

Jim can pull up his, what kind of boat does he have?

Pontoon, right?

He'll pull up a

pontoon.

One

thing I want to say about this is, I mean, you're high quality.

Scratch kitchen.

Whatever, everything like that.

But you're having fun with it too.

100%.

Yeah, you gotta have

fun.

If you're not having fun, you know, you have to provide an environment where people want to come to work every day, where people are engaged and own what they're doing.

And post COVID, a lot of cooks, a lot of the hospitality industry has kind of fallen off because it's hard work.

And it's just, it's turned a lot of chefs away.

So I try to be inclusive with my team when it comes to creating menus.

I try to get their feedback from all the service staff.

You know, it's important to collaborate.

And again, have fun with it.

Ultimately, the menu can't be too big.

I'm not a fan of a Cheesecake Factory menu where there's 40 items on the menu.

We have 12 breakfast items, and they're all fantastic.

We have 16 items on the lunch, dinner menu, plus pizza, and they're all really, really great items.

So no matter what you eat, we're really just excited to have the community and really start to get our name out there for people to enjoy.

Adriana, give us a little as marketing director, tell everybody why they should come down.

Well, I mean, you really can't beat the atmosphere if you want to come in for dining right on the water this time of year.

You're really not going to get any kind of better.

place to go.

That's what I look forward to.

I look forward to the hot days in the summer.

We might be working on a boating partnership where you can actually rent a boat and come and dine with us.

They'll come and pick you up and you can rent a boat for a day or go to their place and rent it.

Again, that's a partnership in the works.

We're trying to get that ready for some complimentary boat tours on the day.

Well, your

location is phenomenal.

It's great.

I mean,

there's honestly it's in the state of Wisconsin.

We're all five many better places than that.

It's I want.

I mean, we are officially the pizza sponsor of Lake Winnebago.

They don't know it yet.

I'm saying it right now.

We're going for it.

But I also love your talk.

We're giving Todd a hard time on the spot of cow because that's his go to.

But but it's wonderful that like new skis and all these different things.

That's awesome.

How you're incorporating all the local, you know, endeavors.

I love

that.

We're in such a agricultural hotspot.

You know, there's so much.

good farming produce proteins.

You got to leverage what we have around us.

And there's no better place to do it.

I'm super enthused to be in Oshkosh and really try.

comes across.

certainly

does.

love it.

It's been awesome.

The restaurant's beautiful.

If you haven't come in, come check it out.

You can literally, like you said, dock boatside.

We're ready to have

you.

Oshkosh, Marriott Waterfront, thank you both so very much.

We will definitely be there.

And when we're in Oshkosh, Todd, for our next

show.

OK.

pizza.

Anchor in port grand opening July 29th.

Thanks for being here.

Thanks guys.

Sounds awesome.

We're out of time.

We are.

Thanks everybody.

See

ya.

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