Valley Focus: Kathy Snell -  Special Events Coordinator for the City of Oshkosh

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Valley Focus: Kathy Snell - Special Events Coordinator for the City of Oshkosh

Maino and the Mayor · Tue Jul 1, 2025

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your

hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Good morning.

Happy Tuesday to you.

A nice morning.

This is one of those mornings, man.

I would have been like rocking.

like

jogging

yeah where I would have gotten up where it's still really early I had a couple raw eggs got my old sweats yeah have a towel or you know type nobody does that anymore

that's all I know but they don't nobody wears those gray things anymore right hmm do they I got a pair all over the Johnny

real they're comfortable though man oh they're comfortable but that was a lost art in getting that towel right right in your shirt just right

to keep your neck warm and everything.

Is that what was the purpose of that?

Just keep your, yes, you don't sweat down.

You know, when you're sweating, the cold doesn't go down.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

There was an arc.

It's hard to put in just perfect.

Yeah.

But yeah, I went to Western yesterday.

I did.

Pick something up

or

what?

No, no, no, no.

I know it was, I left something.

It was packed.

And see you there.

How's the crock center going, John?

Good.

Okay, good.

You know, um, do you, so yours, um, that is paid for by the taxpayer, um, through silver sneakers.

Oh, you knew that.

Do you have to go twice a week or so many times a month or else it gets,

they've never said anything.

I wonder how that works.

Cause,

but I'll tell you what, my granddaughters, like I said, just for the, just,

just, just to subscribe

to that thing or whatever.

So if you get grandkids or stuff around to take that.

And again,

They've got to every place there is in the Dells or whatever.

They're like, Grandpa, can we come back here?

Yeah, that

is a good place.

They just thought that water park was unbelievable.

Yeah.

Just loved it.

Yeah.

Loved

it, loved it, loved it.

And they

don't, Western doesn't have a pool, so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But anyway, I was surprised how crowded it was yesterday.

And people probably getting ready for the fourth, right?

Yeah, I would think so.

Maybe add 11 pounds or something.

There's

no way you could add 11 pounds.

I dropped seven, by the way.

Ah, you need a new scale.

I think that's junk.

Is battery?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No.

You need new batteries.

Why can't you just give me, like, can't you just give me a, hey, that's great.

Nice job.

Keep her going.

I just, that's, that's significant.

What's that, what is that called?

Like what the parent almost where it's like, no matter what.

Dad, dad, look, I got a E minus semi project.

Hmm.

How come you didn't get an A?

I got an A. I would have gotten an A. Your sister would have gotten an A.

Hey, you guys have been super proud of me yesterday, last night, like 12 30, I'll even show you on my phone.

So I had to go to Milwaukee, pick up May.

My daughter, um, and I don't listen to the radio.

I should, but I just, I like dead silence when I drive.

I, and I was thinking about what we talked about yesterday, my goals, you know, and I didn't say I was going to buy the Panama Canal.

I said, or help with that.

I, but I did talk about the Pope.

Yeah.

And I think I want to do a little survey.

You like surveys.

This is, so I got home last night cause I was thinking on the way down there.

So we have the, um, Pope the green Bay.com for marketing.

Guess what I bought last night Pope.

It's it's it's Pope Leo, right?

Yeah Leo to Lambeau

Oh

Todd

you can't have the Leo leap This is gonna work You know you're onto something here.

I think I am you know what I was reading there was a pope Over the last over many years.

He was at like mile-high stadium.

I think

in Denver.

Yeah.

Yeah

Okay.

Hey, did you see Campbell?

I handle

by the way the other day the people there for that Morgan Wayland concert.

You know why?

Did you see their concert lineup?

Yeah.

You know why they're doing concerts again?

Why?

They got their alcohol license.

That's what it is, isn't it?

But they jammed the people in there.

Yeah.

What do they see?

85, I believe, for

that.

They're

very, very close to

us.

Right.

Yeah.

And that's

was anybody there is anybody out there?

Oh by the way, Michael.

Maybe Michael's there.

Hi guys I've been to the gym at 4 a.m.. And then 30 minutes of meditation my new routine swim Monday Wednesday and Friday gym Tuesday and Thursday Michael That's awesome.

Wow,

you know they offer meditation classes at Western How do you not fall asleep, you know, I know in the morning.

Yeah Close your eyes.

There'd be a good nap.

That would be nap time.

So I

I want to get into that because there's people who absolutely swear by that.

I

would give any, if I could go back in time, if I could go back in time and you could like change something about yourself.

I swear to God, you know what mine would be?

You could change something about yourself.

That's something that I would do.

I would learn how to do.

And now it's too late.

Swim.

Swim.

It's not too late.

It's not.

Hey, we had those people on here.

The YMCA has said, come on down.

There's adult swim lessons.

Actually, and we had somebody, was that on our show or my show, but it was private?

Because you probably at your age don't want to be, that would be awful if they put you in there with a bunch of like that.

That's what I mean.

No, no, no, no.

It's an adult swim class.

It's adult.

Yes, it's not like you would.

Adults that never learn how to swim.

Yeah.

Check it out.

YMCA.

friend of

mine.

Even that show I was telling you about that I've been watching, he's in his pool and it's like, God, that looks so good to swim.

I would be like a seal.

I'd be like a Navy

seal.

That swimming's harder than it looks.

A friend of mine did that and like, because he was a great runner, great athlete, didn't know how to swim and really wanted to do those triathlons and you had to swim.

So he went to the Y, private lessons and learned how to swim and he's

You know, I don't I haven't talked about this if he swims recreationally, but you know, you know,

yeah,

but and that's tough swimming there.

You get kicked in the head and everything.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's they said that's unbelievable.

Right.

That's like every person for themselves.

So if you knew how to swim, what would you would you like out of the why?

Yeah, that's good for your knees.

It's

good for because everything else I do, you know, you're asking with okay, well, you know, you guys have lived it.

I come limping in here or I'm on crutches or whatever.

And I always have great, you know,

I want to do it.

I'm gonna do it.

Oh man.

I walked 8,000 miles or 8,000 steps today.

I did this.

I did that.

And every time what happens?

You hurt yourself.

I hurt myself.

Something in my ankles or my knees.

You know, you don't

really have to have to know how to swim to do water things because they have that, um, they have exercise in the water.

Yeah.

I mean,

that's the other thing you

could do.

Yeah.

Well, that's the big thing in rehab now for sports.

is that's the number one thing they found is having guys run in water and water has become so funny.

The thing we're most abundant with here in our world.

Okay, and there's almost like they're just finding out new uses for it.

But it's like, okay, the number one thing that has saved people from heat stroke now, hey, a big bucket of water to sit

in.

Imagine that.

Michael says, your swimming has been amazing.

My body feels incredible.

Yeah.

And you know what's really good is those reverse wave pools.

And so I've heard, is that the Michael Phelps thing?

Yeah, no, you know, Carl King had one in his house.

Oh, really?

Mm-hmm.

That guy's in great shape.

So, yeah, lived a long time.

Todd.

What?

You're from a small town, though.

Did you have swim lessons?

Oh, no.

We didn't.

No.

Okay.

We did.

I told you

about

those.

My dad

never knew

how

to, so it wasn't a deal.

No, my dad didn't either.

My dad

didn't know how to swim.

No.

Nobody in my family knows how to swim.

Yeah, he did.

He did jack knife off the, he's a good diver.

My dad.

Really?

Mm-hmm.

Oh, wow.

And one time we went to a pool.

Did you have a pool?

No at your house.

No with this swim club a swim club, you know like you pay and then oh Tourist family swim club We didn't have a swim club.

It's the three pools.

I was your swim club.

I was a pond out back No, we went on like a little trip and he I remember that I'm answering I must have been a little kid, but he dove off the board and

You know, touch his toes and wow, he came up and he was bleeding.

We all freaked out at the bottom.

Yep.

You get by.

I still say one of the freakiest things ever was the Olympics in 88

with that Luganas.

Oh,

yeah.

Oh, that was good.

Was that 88?

I think so.

Do I?

Wow.

Yeah.

That was just did he

he hit his head though, right?

Yeah.

Remember the blood starting to come out as he's going down.

I remember

that 88 was right.

He ate That was nasty man.

That was really nasty Some of those sports that they're scary.

Do you see that new sport the dumbest sport in the history of the world not they started up?

What's that pillow fighting?

No,

God really?

I think ESPN even had a thing on it

No, okay.

Here's a question.

Okay.

No, let me just ask this question.

Is it like you know

Like athletes doing this, or is it kind of the it's two

people in a ring?

Is it bras and panties?

No, yeah, no, it's not

like W. W. E. thing.

It's ganky.

It's not that it's they have two pillows.

Is it like gloves?

I think

it's just

what like if two people would have a pillow fight, that's how it would be.

I remember American Gladiators and they had those poles with the pillows on the end.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jousting kind of thing.

Pungy

sticks.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember that.

Yeah.

Yeah, and then they're beyond the thing.

Remember trying

to get the other one off.

Oh, absolutely

pedestals.

I

used to watch it all the

time.

Do they really not sure?

That's supposed to mean because we all know

why you are

watching on Because I appreciate athletic ability.

Yeah, that is exactly why you watch that shot

So

to remember dynamo she was a coming of age for a lot of you

No, I didn't the the pillow fight thought you win.

You just knock them down and you win I'll look it up.

All right.

Yeah So that's

making a comeback or it's it's brand

new.

Yeah, I mean, that's just something I was reading about it.

No, so but I was talking about it's it's fun when you find a new key what

you find something I did.

It's called the PFC pillow fight championship.

There you go.

Yeah

And, uh, and I think the pillows may have a little bit more than just feathers in them.

They look a little heavy, but yeah, that's pretty much what you're doing.

It's, it's like MMA.

Yeah.

They're, you know, they got the gloves on, they got the shorts, they're doing that, but it's pillows.

Yeah.

No helmets.

Nope.

No

helmets.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm sure the police and fire commission loves that

title.

I mean, there's some big sponsors on this thing.

Wow.

But didn't ESPN televised the pillow guy?

It's possible.

Yeah, FC pillow fight championship

There you go.

Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, I'm just saying but you know what so I found this new TV show What's the name of a time?

Oh, man, I'll have to relook it up Friends and neighbors neighbors and friends But anyway, it's John Hamm who I really like from Mad Men it's a

Roger's old girlfriend whose name I still can't remember your friends and neighbors your friends and neighbors.

Yeah, John Hamm.

What's her name?

They're Roger's old girlfriend.

Oh, yeah, Olivia.

I love your month.

Yep Amanda tween.

No, Amanda Pete Amanda Pete man to Pete Some other big name type people, but it's but it's about this guy multi-million dollar multi-million dollar hedge broker mm-hmm what there's and Lose this job

There's a little something something at work yet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay So not to give away the whole thing, but he's almost like basically broke his wife leaves him for a former NBA player So he's just out in the you know, whatever nothing, okay?

So he starts he like his people.

Hey listen, we're going to Belize for the week just kind of keep and you'd go in and like steal their Rolexes And that's like supported himself from the none.

It's really good.

Has anybody seen that?

What's David Todd?

It's friends and neighbors.

Yeah, something like that.

Yeah, you got to watch this if you get a chance it is really really you know sometimes when You see stuff coming and it's like okay.

Oh those writers kind of phone this one in

but then it totally isn't just

like

And you go

the other way that's when you know you've got a good TV show that you want to keep

Breaking bad and suits did that to me.

I just like this is

yeah

unbelievable.

Yeah, that's so it is it like

So you can binge watch it.

It's all done.

Yeah, the series are done.

So it's been on

for

yes, I think just I think it just got 20 25.

Yeah, yeah brand brand

new Yeah, it's been on so you can watch it till it's yes.

Okay.

I watch the whole thing It's tough when you get into that and

then you forget for a week

Yeah, I know

exactly Terry says if it's like the pillow fight an animal house, I mean

Hey, it's a beautiful morning out there.

61 in Green Bay, 63 in Aptin, 63 in Oshkoshheim, the mid 80s.

We got a perfect July first day.

June was not so good.

July is going to be phenomenal.

Back after this.

So this was probably 1972 three No, two and this guy is still rocking.

That's the best.

Isn't that amazing?

He's going blind Yes, something has the house what you're

73 73

congratulations.

That's I mean Jim that might be the first time I

think it

is

John I'm gonna say crocodile rock was 72 though

Because I think that was his first big one.

Man.

Yeah.

But isn't that for longevity?

And he was performing back then.

Well, that's

what I mean.

I mean, just bringing it.

Yeah.

It's not like he was

just

writing

music.

I regret.

We were talking.

You asked if I stopped.

I mean, Todd, who are you?

OK, I'm going to give a top five list.

That could be as, OK, Eagles.

I'm not spending $100 for a ticket.

Elton John, Rod Stewart, Rolling Stones, and Bob Dylan.

I throw all

five.

I had a chance to see I would say Fleetwood Mac would be in there for me too when they did there

Well, I saw what's her name did her own thing here at the rest of the night.

Yes, thanks went to that That was cool.

Did you go to that?

Stevie Nick's thing when she was in town She's at the rush.

Yeah, I Don't think so.

So I was glad I saw her at least She

I'm

glad I saw Elton John.

I did see the one you want to see, Bob, not Rod Stewart.

I saw Rod Stewart.

The other guy, I went with my Bob

Dylan.

How did I pass up the Eagles?

Oh, but you know what?

It seemed like, you know, once they reunited, it's like they're gonna be together forever.

You know what I mean?

Like they're gonna, they performed here with the symphony, right?

I don't know.

It was a thrash.

Yeah.

No, he

performed here with,

but it's like, oh

man.

Cause then it wasn't long after, wasn't it?

That Glenford, I got sick, got some weird disease and then died.

I'm glad I saw Bob Seeger and I've seen Springsteen twice.

I'm glad I saw

the drummer.

Don Henley?

No.

No.

Phil

Collins.

Oh, Phil Collins.

And Don wanted to see him, so

we saw him.

And she's really glad we had him.

Yeah.

And he was really, really good.

Like, sometimes... He's got issues too,

though, doesn't he?

Yeah, he's not gonna play too

good.

You talk about, you know, we didn't call it foreign.

They just weren't into it, you know?

But he really worked hard.

He was, that was great.

And one of those artists back in the eighties, I mean, hit after hit,

I

mean, just incredible together.

Just put it out with Genesis and without.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Country wise as such night tween.

Glad I saw her back in her heyday.

Um, Toby Keith.

Uh, I don't, I didn't see Tim McGraw in Faith Hill, but they, you know, they.

They've brought some big-time people through here.

Although, you know what's funny?

When you go back and people put it on Facebook, like in the 70s at the Brown County Arena, it'd be like Johnny Cash and George Jones and it's like, stick it, front row, $6.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

I mean, they had some big names come through the old arena.

Yeah.

I wonder what those people thought of it back then.

Was it, I guess it was okay,

huh?

The arena?

Yeah.

I think so because a lot of a lot of the places they would play were like

that.

Right.

That's right.

They were

rodeo places and

it's amazing that Green Bay, I mean, like, yes, but, you know, they picked up, you know, Chicago sticks.

There's a lot of, they had some

decent

entertainment here when we were in high school.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I remember down in

Tucson,

you'd have, they'd have those things and I went to them and you're, you're not, you're not joking though.

Places where they'd have the carton or the circuses and rodeos and then a concert.

Yeah.

And you just, when you walked away, you just had that certain smell

to you.

Yeah, well, it's weird that there's so much entertainment dollars now.

It's so competitive right now.

And it's, I don't know, is that, you know, what do you pick?

There's, you know, there's so many more venues right now.

There's the music.

Well, you can't go to a thing for less than $100 these days.

Can you between parking and buying a beer?

If people budget, if you would say, well,

let's say you're going to do a family budget, $2,000 for entertainment, which is a lot.

You know, you throw a couple of packer games in there.

If you have a couple of kids, you know.

Some money.

Okay, I was going to run this by you.

I saw a thing where it's like, okay, guy, maybe he made this up, but it's, I can just be through.

He said, we had three kids in the family.

My dad was the only person that worked.

All three kids went to college.

No student debt, no whatever.

What happened?

At what point did some because he when I went to Arizona state, it was it was dirt cheap You know what my tuition was that he asked you like five grand a year a year And we're not talking the dark ages here.

We're talking late 70s early 80s So I mean when did when did that just go, you know the cost of education goes so crazy

Yeah,

boy, I don't know why wouldn't you say that rose as high as Anything else in the country?

Yeah, that's why I can't like listen to Charlie Kirkwood's a lot.

Is it, you know, is it worth it?

I mean, it's like, my God, the price of

education is mind boggling.

And is it, you gotta, is it worth it?

That's what I mean, is it?

I don't know.

And I think a lot of times, unless you're a doctor, right?

Right.

It's tough to pay off those loans.

Oh my God.

Because a lot of places want you to have a degree

But they want to pay you 16 bucks an hour.

Exactly.

You know, it's like, you gotta be kidding me.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

No question about it.

You know,

but I still say, I will say one thing.

I am an advocate for community colleges.

Oh, man.

Get those same things at a tenth of the price or whatever, the same classes.

You know, and we've had, there's a lady in town and used to work for the city, work for NWTC.

And her big thing is like student debt.

Then I went to one of those seminars.

It was at the Meyer theater and Some girls stood up.

She's a hundred thousand dollars in debt.

No,

but get this John two degrees and they're in Art history Really,

yeah, and no disrespect but me no jobs are there out there.

She was she works for a downtown association Thirty thousand maybe yeah

Dad, sit down and talk to you about this.

But it's really easy to get that money.

You

know what I mean?

It's easy to get

that.

I just

think there's got to be some kind of...

I know.

I know.

I'm with you on that.

Because I don't think she's gonna... Why?

I mean, I didn't have a dime in debt.

I wouldn't even know how to do that if I was in college.

I worked for the mines in the summer and my dad helped out a little bit and boom.

That's all you needed.

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63 in Green Bay, 64 in Ampton, 63 in Oshkosh.

Sunshine high in the mid 80s today today is July 1st International reggae day.

All right I'll tell you what and everybody should do it one time Go to Jamaica.

Yeah, and sit on a beach and hear a reggae kind of entertainer It is really cool.

I mean, it's one of those things.

It's kind of like with bluegrass I like it but it kind of sounds the same after a while does but one night sitting in like a Jamaica on the beach that is quite the experience

There's a local band called well kind of local Luminati Okay, I think we've had them on the show possibly or members of the group But they do reggae and they'll take songs like Ring of Fire and turn it reggae stuff like that.

So it's songs you kind of know Yeah, but you

know where that might come from though, you know Johnny Cash Yeah, lived there and

he

used to bring those entertainers in all the time So I'll bet there was some kind of connection could be between Johnny Cash and the reggae scene

but

It's like happy

music, right?

Oh

yeah,

that's what I mean.

You just feel good.

You just feel good music.

Yes.

And Jim's favorite, maybe a little weed with that.

That's somebody else.

That

is

like, you know, yeah, don't worry, be happy stuff.

It really is.

I mean, it's cool.

You got to experience that one time.

Just don't go off the resort.

Well, yeah, I did.

You know what I told you that.

country doesn't do much for me.

Because it's so sad getting to the resort and

then it gets there.

It's literally sad.

Yeah.

Too much poverty there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Although I will say.

And then you go

to this all inclusive, it's like.

You want to know what the worst, like I've never been to Skid Row in Los Angeles.

I've seen, you know, video and whatever.

But the worst, the most sad thing that I've experienced over the last few years, going to Milwaukee Brewer Spring Training Site in Phoenix, Arizona.

That part of town is so it's all homeless It's all people living on the bridges with like a tarp with cardboard.

You wouldn't think one of our own cities

would be that way.

What?

They all are San Francisco and New Orleans.

They all San

Diego.

They all are John.

But you think, oh, we're Scottsdale, Arizona, or beautiful, the resort, the PGA is here.

And it is blight for miles.

Miles.

But you want to stack to my buddy of mine, those houses are still like $350,000 houses.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's really something.

If anybody's been to Springtrain, I'm not trying to discourage anybody, but just that area getting to Mayville.

It's really something Nah get arms around that I know I'd also chicken wing day Hate to say it in my opinion a little overrated the amount of work for the amount of the reward Mm-hmm like crab legs.

Give me boneless chicken wings.

Give me thighs.

Give me a good thigh.

Yeah, no that I like it apples and oranges.

That's like fish flip No chicken wings and chicken wings so

Why, okay, first of all, chicken wings, they're not a lot of work.

They're a lot of

work.

Would you like, what do you like, Parmesan, garlic?

Those are

the best.

Doesn't matter.

They're a lot of work, Jim.

That's like stringy little piece.

Oh, he's just one of those.

The bones are kind of

fun to eat.

Overrated, I'm sorry, overrated Jim.

The bones are like chicken nuggets that

little kids eat them.

Overrated a little bit, overrated a little bit.

For

the amount

of work.

Put them in a grill, just, no.

I think they're there.

I think

they're they used to be a waste.

Tom's playing the music.

I mean, Todd's playing the music.

Go ahead, Todd.

Reason number 593 that Jim and John are not alike.

They're fun to have around.

I would.

That's not a meal or anything, but

they're a mess and they're whatever.

I'll tell you what is under.

I'll tell you why.

If they're good, if they're really good, boy, they're worth it.

If they're just kind of like, well, you know,

but.

Cause I used to buy bags of them from, um, what was the place?

Do they still have that place over on West mason Sam's club?

Do they stop at Sam's clubs?

Yeah.

Okay.

That's why those big bet you'd buy those big things of everything.

Remember?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They bulk.

I gotta tell you something though

that they're overpriced though.

I mean, that used to be just to be a wasted product.

Somebody came up with it and it's like crazy now.

They're, they're way overpriced, but yeah, they're, I just, it's nice to have as something.

So anyway, um,

I gotta tell you, Todd, you would have loved this.

You would have loved this.

And I felt back, I'm sitting there by myself.

Like, who's the creepy guy sitting by himself with his face just covered in barbecue sauce and just eating and drinking beer and everything.

I went to that rib fest that our guy Cody Creplen was a part of up in Brussels a couple of weeks ago.

I had three platters of ribs.

I gotta be honest with you.

They were so, and all the different, because everybody had their own different sauces and stuff.

And I buy one from one place, another one, another, another one.

Oh, when you get good barbecued ribs, that's gotta be as good as anything you could taste, isn't it?

Ribs are good, but that takes a long

time to

look.

I know.

So that's patience.

But you could almost like taste the time and the

effort.

Ribs are good.

That is great.

But that's ours.

I know, I know, but it's cook

and

but I would rather go to that and just devour three platters of something over wings.

Absolutely.

Hands down.

Yeah.

Today is also postage stamp day.

Where do you, where do you buy a stamp these days?

I don't know, but I do.

Whoever came up with Nick Barkatsy.

You gotta find an old person.

But the forever stamp was the best idea ever.

The U.S.

Post Office, I don't give them a lot of credit for business acumen.

That was a great idea.

What was it?

No, you buy a stamp, it's good forever.

You don't have to like, remember you had to look around for those two cent stamps to put on with it.

You buy a stamp, now it's good forever.

I did not know that.

John's been around for like 15 years.

Are you serious?

Yeah, it's great.

So all you do is go buy a roll.

Now, if you bought them, 10 years would be cheaper than they are today.

I don't know how much stamps are, but if you buy it today, let's say they're...

I think they're 52 cents or 55 cents.

I don't know what you are, but you buy a roll of stamps, and if you mail it in 2032, that stamp is still good.

Okay, that kind of takes away from the poor guys or the artists.

Remember in Fargo, which says, how did you do?

Oh, I only got the four-cent stamp.

See, those days are over.

Well, that's good though, because then when somebody, the price goes up, they need them.

You really think so, Margie?

Oh, you betcha.

Remember?

I do.

That was a weird movie.

That was a great

movie.

That was so weird.

Oh my God, that was a great

movie.

That was a COVID

movie, right?

Huh?

No, way before COVID.

Oh my God, that was way before, way, way, way, way before.

Yeah.

I watched

it

during COVID.

Yeah.

That's what I watched.

Oh my God, I can

recite so

many

lines from that movie.

Do you want me

to take some time?

No,

thanks.

No, that lion thing I watched during COVID, that was such a, ugh.

The what?

You watched the Lion King?

The Tiger King or something.

Tiger King, that Florida thing.

Oh yeah, I didn't like that at all.

I didn't even see it once.

Uh, it is international joke day.

All right.

Uh, ginger snap day.

Not a fan.

Not a fan.

I love them.

I love them.

All right.

Zip code day.

I don't know why zip code has a day.

Uh, Liv Tyler is 48.

Um, Melissa Peterman, who I'm trying to figure out.

Maybe this will help.

She was Barbara Jean on the Reba show.

Okay, she still hangs out with Reba a lot.

I think she's at Reba's new show that okay.

I know you mean

yep You know, it's good about like redhead like ginger type people

Stand by for some really smart talk now from John Minow from Bill Barr.

They don't really age Like Reba McIntyre doesn't look any different than she looked 25 years ago

might be a little bit plastic surgery Maybe you

know little but it seems like you know, that's how they come out They're stamped that way and they just stay that way

You ever noticed that?

No?

I would say no to that.

Okay.

I mean, look at Lucille Ball.

And her hair was probably not red, but I don't know that Rebus is red.

But it's

like their hair doesn't get gray, it seems like.

Let's all die.

They don't get age.

It seems like they don't age.

They don't get wrinkles.

Lucille Ball at the end.

Okay, I want to be in the

show.

Pamela Anderson, 58.

Boy.

Boy.

Have you seen her lately?

Yeah.

No disrespect, but she's let everything go completely natural.

Just completely natural.

You'd not know it was her.

I mean, you realize how much people used to put into making themselves look like a character with all the injections, all the different things.

And she's let it all go.

And I mean, she's still great, but I mean, not

What would be the word we used to use for her?

Um Not voluptuous anymore.

Does anybody use the word voluptuous anywhere?

That's what I would think.

Yeah.

Yeah Just like looks like a mom looks like a mom taking her kids to school Carl Lewis 64.

Okay You guys have to admit worst rendition of the national anthem of all time Yeah, that was

bad.

I

think that was 88 too.

Is that

88 Olympics?

Do you remember that?

We

played it on the show once.

Yeah,

because he won like his four or five gold medals or whatever.

So then he was the big soul.

And he wanted to become a singer then.

He's going to become a big singer, soul

singer.

So I think it was a Dodgers game.

He was going to sing the national anthem.

Oh,

poor guy.

1993.

Oh, it

was horrible.

Dan Ackroyd, 73.

Deborah Harry is 80 from Blondie.

He's 80.

80.

And this

was in 1980.

This song

was from 1980.

78, 79.

77.

77.

She was great.

Jamie Farr, 91.

Clinger is 91 years old.

Good for him.

Brewers at the New York Mets tonight on WISS.

That's at 530.

What else we got going here?

All our techs go to the text line.

Zeppelin is touring first time since 2007.

October 28th, that's United Center in Chicago.

Let's all go.

Says Michael.

How old are those guys?

They got to be close to 80, don't they?

Such a nice area down there.

Where?

United Center?

Woo!

I was there for Springsteen.

You gotta be careful, some of those neighborhoods.

The one band I'm glad I got to see was The Grateful Dead when Jerry Garcia was still alive, Chicago, 1992 till 1995.

Boy, they had a following.

It's unbelievable.

Was that the most devoted following there was in the history of American

music?

I don't know.

It was up there.

I mean, I was unbelievable, people.

I told you my brother was one of those guys.

It's surprising who some of those people are.

Like, I forget, it wasn't like Dan Rather, but there was some news person who- Well, there's some professionals that followed those guys.

Oh,

yeah, absolutely.

And they were, like, passionate.

My top five would be the Flying Burrito Brothers, Buffalo Springfield.

I remember Buffalo Springfield albums when I was high school.

Keith Whitley.

Linda Ronstadt.

I would love to see her in the 70s.

Rolling Stones.

Yeah, those are all good ones.

Got another text here.

Happy Tuesday from a tent at Highcliff State Park.

Had some fun with four raccoons in our screen tent last night.

Note to self, don't forget to put the dog food in the truck before you go to bed.

Good idea.

Mike, wow.

Been listening to you over 20 years, John, but you're on thin ice when you say chicken wings are overrated.

Todd and a peer.

Dentist school says Kyle, $130,000 tuition a year.

You

know, Kyle, when we got that, I don't know if that's that bad, because you what, make 160?

So paybacks maybe, you gotta live, but you get that paid off in five years?

Four years?

No?

I don't know, man.

You get a lot of money there at 130 a year.

How

long have you spent at school?

Four or five years?

What is it?

I don't know.

I don't know.

1988.

Be happy.

Hey beautiful morning once again great way to start the month of July 63 and Green Bay 64 napton 63 and Oshkosh high in the mid 80s today Todd you getting big vacation type plans this year

no

I know you don't really huh I mean you could you're you know you're

Tell you what I did do yesterday though.

I pulled some beats out of my garden

Okay, and cook those up and had those.

Okay.

They're okay.

You know, I'm big into health food.

Okay.

Natural.

Absolutely.

And, um, beets are one of the most underrated nutritional things a person could possibly eat.

Yeah,

that's something I'm like in every way.

It's less than me at a beach on Tuesday.

Okay.

So,

Why do you have to do that?

Why can't I just come out with some of

my knowledge?

All right, all right, all right.

Okay.

All right.

Okay, go ahead.

So anyway, I would agree though that beets are very healthy and they're really good.

They are.

I gotta be honest with you.

I have not, I had a beet salad at a restaurant one time, which is really, really good.

Cut up in those little cubes and stuff.

That was good.

But I, I don't think, I don't know, unless you grow them, I guess they're in stores.

I just haven't had them.

How do you cook them?

I just, I boiled it, boiled them for a little

bit.

That's some butter and salt and pepper.

Folks used to do it.

Yeah.

Just slice them up like that.

That was, yeah.

But a salad bar at like a supper club and you get the beat,

the pickle beats.

You always have to do that.

And I pulled a couple of potato plants and they were

like

smaller potatoes, but I made a little bit of that too last night.

Okay, so I was going to go back.

The other one that is underrated is sweet potatoes.

Yeah.

First, how good they are

for you.

Yeah.

But I think I told you that my go-to snack when we're...

at our place this week, because my kids, oh, don't do that, don't put all that food, is gonna be that bruschetta.

And we cut the, I cut the mint for, I'm just gonna throw that in the water, ice water, you know, because that's always good.

So I do too.

But then I, yeah.

And then we, where do you get mint?

Do you grow some?

Yeah.

All the stuff is out of the, we have just, you've been at my house, we just had six foot flower bed.

It's amazing what you can pull out of it.

Yeah, absolutely.

And we got, but I really like

The prosciutto.

Yeah.

Okay, be a prosciutto.

I just cut that stuff out of that garden.

Parsley or do you use cilantro?

Yeah, cilantro.

And that's really good.

And then I put on the, you know, I don't put, I don't put it on olive oil, but I get that stuff from, it's not vinegar.

I get it over at my buddy's own title town.

It's it's kind of like vinegar, but it's a little thicker than that balsamic.

Yeah, it's balsamic.

It's even a little it's called balsamic So it's more rust from stuff, but man, is that good with the mozzarella?

I mean, you know what everything everything I know is like really spicy like when I make my scrambled eggs I put in garlic that crushed garlic and I put in jalapenos.

I bet that's good It's really good.

Then I even put cayenne pepper on it I try to make my I try to make everything so spicy.

That's what I mean

I want to make, I like to like sweat when I'm eating something.

You know what I mean?

We're literally like going for it and sweat pops up.

Do you

go up a phase by yourself?

A guy at the table by himself.

Napkins.

That was me at Rip Fest.

I was in the bar.

It was

really hot.

So I went in the bar.

Tina, and I was sitting at the end of the bar, and I actually thought that.

Did you pat your forehead with that?

I was sweating.

Oh, I was sweating.

You're right.

I think I

even took the beer bottle and grabbed it.

I was like, forehead a couple of times.

It was that really hot day.

Yeah.

And I didn't want to sit outside because then you're just, you know, you're drenched.

But yeah, I was

funny.

Were the, were the ribs spicy or was it just the meat sweats because you were having so much of it?

So fast.

A little both because, but the thing is I wish they would have had it more where you knew exactly who or what type, you know, because then you would know, it's like, oh, if you ever see that guy something, I mean, Cody's are always good.

But I mean, you know, to know somebody else and you see that pop up is, oh, you got to try that guys.

We're eating really fast.

Without question.

Oh, there's not even I was

I was like

and that would be torture for me to watch someone eat Yep,

Vinny just texted and he said my no sweats just eating popcorn Much

less than I

do much.

I just told Jim that this morning I would my t-shirt when I woke up this morning that was drenched Drenched I just sweat.

I don't know why

yeah,

but that the spicy stuff the garlic

Everything that that's really good.

That's a good type of sweat.

I don't know about this text What

beats are full of sugar?

Well, they're called sugar beets

They do have a lot of sugars in them.

Yeah,

but they also have some other vitamins that are phenomenal for you Yes, but yeah, they're they're called sugar beets, but but I got to okay the old-fashioned buffets y'all supper clubs like my hoots.

Oh

that the

No, that's all you need.

Right, right, right.

Yeah, just go

Back

we have somebody coming on though.

I want to what's the best snack?

Because fourth in 80 degrees the snacks aren't the same as yeah Football right because you don't right

right right right

so those pickled beets Anything cold that that would be good Greek salads are good.

There's long Greek

salads,

you know,

well

on it

But I wanted I'm gonna I want to learn how to cook ribs

I'm gonna that's a long process.

Well, I'm gonna build my own smoker.

You don't want to

You're not going to cook them in the oven, right?

That's what I mean.

I'm

going to build a smoker.

You can't have that.

I found my... On your deck.

Hey, man, I have to walk again.

Oh, you can... Oh, all right.

All right.

Because I found my welder that I bought from Harbor Freight.

I'm getting back into

welding.

Okay.

Your smoker, why don't you just put some wood chips in like a coffee can?

Have that...

Put that on the grill, let that smoke and put them on, like a two and one.

I want to do this right.

Yeah, that's, then you have two smokers, then you have a smoker and a grill on your deck that looks a little junky.

No, I won't.

I'll camouflage it, put stuff around it.

Brian

says, good day

for Johnny,

for a DJ.

Johnny sweats.

It's a DJ name, not bad.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they just roll a refrigerator out there.

I just feel so healthy when I sweat.

Who

are you?

You feel like you're- If I'm in a gym, not.

When I walk around the house or in bed,

yeah.

Or sitting with a plate of ribbons

in front of you at a buffet.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I just, he feels good.

But

you're doing something good for your body.

Are you really going to make a smoker or are you going to buy a smoker?

I'd

like to make it because I did find my

welder.

If you, I might buy one from you because I

might.

Okay.

Think about it.

Got another text.

Look up the three to one method to make great ribs.

That's

three to one method.

Yep.

Okay.

All right.

I will look at that and look at that right

now.

Thank you, Alex.

We're gonna start a quick break.

Back with Shanice Dean, Ireland.

All right.

We're gonna find out.

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your hosts, John

Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

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It is perfect weather out there right now.

A little bit cool this morning, but it's going to be so nice.

It is.

This is the July is going to be a phenomenal month.

And of course, we get the fourth of July coming up and we've been talking all morning.

This was almost like a cooking show all morning we've had here today.

And we want to talk to somebody who's in

expert on the ultimate fourth of July and summer menu, Shaaniste, Ireland.

Good morning, Shaaniste.

Good morning.

How are you today?

Phenomenal.

Hungry.

Yes, because we've already been talking about this stuff.

I got to tell you something, just going through all your background and all the different things you like to talk about, you had me at, hang on here, because I could live on Shakuta Reboards, but the barbecue Shakuta Reboard is over and

above.

extra for you.

That's okay.

I'm all about the board because you guys, when you're when entertaining, I just think it's the easiest way to do things, especially if you have everything lined up, even for hot dogs and hamburgers as a DIY.

That way people can just kind of go down the line, prepare how they want it.

They want chili on it.

If they want cheese on it, if they want onions, you know, that way it doesn't have the host making all these things and preparing it.

So kind of having the board.

I know that it sounds cliche and there's so many charcuterie boards for everything, but it just makes sense.

I agree.

I love them.

And it's nice to entertain and not have to work.

Have it all set up ahead of time so you can enjoy the party.

I mean, that's the goal, right?

Right.

I love the prepping ahead of time.

Now is the time to check the grill, make sure it works, make sure you have everything you need.

You can go ahead and start preparing some of those side dishes, even, you know, the macaroni and cheese casserole.

You can go ahead and freeze that.

You can, anything that you can prepare ahead of time, even the dips, some of the dips you can make way ahead of time, go ahead and prepare that now.

That way you're not super stressed the day of.

Of course, the night before, we want to make sure that we're marinating everything, having our meat ready to go, and that way nobody is running out to the store last minute.

And also guys, don't be afraid to ask

your guests to bring something they can bring a side dish they can bring a bag of chips they can bring a six pack whatever it may be invite people to experience the party with you as the host and bring something and this also helps out if people have dietary needs or if they have allergies they could bring something that they know that they can eat on the 4th of

July.

We kind of, in this neck of the woods, have the hot dogs and brats down.

Tell me about the ribs.

What would you, if you want to serve ribs, you know, sometimes it takes a long time and sometimes, you know, tell me how you would prepare and serve ribs if you're having a picnic barbecue at one o'clock in the

afternoon.

You know, pre cut the ribs definitely before serving to just kind of make sure that everything is put together really well.

You want to keep them warm, but you of course don't want to dry them out.

So you can actually put a bit of warm barbecue sauce and a splash of apple juice to keep them really moist.

Cover them with foil.

Make sure that they are in a warm oven or on the cool side of the grill.

You do not want to keep cooking these things.

So that way everything's ready to go.

And then of course.

you know, make sense, serve them with wet wipes because they're going to get dirty.

People are going to get dirty.

And, you know, it's always just best taste not to wear white to barbecue anyway.

Go ahead, Todd.

Todd was going to jump in on something right here.

I was just going to say, Sean, to see Jim would never have wet wipes because they're disposable.

The man loves linens.

So he would have special linens.

Would you just correct linens at a rib party?

I mean, you guys said the Bump the Star Foodery Board was extra.

A linens?

Yeah.

You don't want to have that.

The wet wipes, the disposable napkins.

I know it's not the best for the environment this year.

It's once a year, right?

Well, yeah, okay, well, we'll see.

But when would you cook the ribs, though?

When would you cook them?

You would cook them the day before, would you?

When would you?

You're gonna... No, no, no.

So

you just morning of the morning and you're just gonna want to slow slow cook them You know, you don't want to rush anything slow is is the name of the game with barbecue Absolutely, but the day off for sure.

I think that if you do it ahead of time, they're just gonna be nasty

Can you do

it in a

gas grill or does it have to be charcoal or wood?

You know, this is an often very heated debate.

I think that charcoal and wood just tastes better I think most people would agree with that

If you don't have the option to have that, you can even put wood chips in foil and put them on your grill.

That kind of gives it a little bit of that smoky taste.

But I think that if you want to go with ultimate ribs, you got to have the charcoal or you got to have the wood chips for sure.

Or at a coffee can too, you can throw some wood chips in there.

Yeah, that doesn't sound

too... One of the things in the information you sent along, Shanice, was some of the stores that you can find some of the products that you're talking about this morning.

And one of the, it was a dollar store, which by the way, John Minow, okay, loves the dollar stores.

Yes.

Jim Schmidt, not so much.

You could actually get good stuff there, right?

I love the Dollar Tree.

You guys, I buy so much stuff at Dollar Tree.

Thank you.

I have five kids.

So things get broken and destroyed very, very quickly in my house.

So the Dollar Tree is the way to go.

That's because they're from

the Dollar Tree.

Quiet you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the product I think you're talking about is the Rayburn sandwiches.

They have these pulled pork sandwiches that you can find at the Dollar General.

And you can pop them in the microwave for 90 seconds.

You can pop them on the grill.

And they're just fresh and ready to go for your guests when they arrive for your party.

I

know exactly what

you were

talking about.

You see he's

drooling.

Yeah.

But how about High V?

You have that listed too.

Yeah, you can also purchase them there as well.

I don't know if you admire.

Oh yeah, we love them too.

Yeah.

Okay, yeah.

You can also find Rayburns at Myer or you can just go to Rayburns.com.

to look at the different variety of the flavors they have, the filly, cheesesteak, the chicken sandwich, as I mentioned, the pulled pork sandwich, and then you can find out where they are locally there.

But you know, another thing, just going back to the ribs and cooking stuff like that, do people, when they go to something like that, like if it's all family, it's no big deal, you know, you got stuff all over your face and you're sweating and your food and whatever and everything, but if you're at a little bit more of a formal type party, what would you suggest you kind of stay away from?

Because sometimes people want to be a little bit hoity-toity with what they serve, but

You know what I mean?

You don't want to be that guy with a big splotch on his shirt, which I've been

at times.

You

know what I'm saying?

I mean, I know exactly what you're saying.

I mean, I guess you would have to stay away from the wings and the ribs and anything that's really super juicy.

But I don't know.

Maybe you need to take a bib with you or have your linen napkins on your chest.

But I think that would be.

I think, you know, my father-in-law would slap a bib on.

Oh boy.

We

had

some pretty.

I was like, really?

But

he did.

Hey, do you have to?

What are some of the things, Shonesty, right now that, you know, every year something might be a little bit trendy or something cool that if you wanted to like go, I don't want to say over the top, but you want to really impress some people at where it's like, oh, it wasn't just brats in the, you know, pasta salad.

It was, oh, what could somebody do without like breaking the bank, you know, going to these stores that you and I like to frequent and whatever.

What could you really impress people

with?

You know, you gotta have a good dessert and you know, you guys, it sounds so cliche, but just having those sliced up strawberries and the blueberries to make the American flag and perhaps a sheet cake dessert with full width and some vanilla pudding and a little bit of crust at the bottom of it.

I actually have a recipe for that over on my Instagram and then even having the angel food cake in cups with.

the little toothpicks with anything red, white and think it really elevates th it can really make a bo something super stiff.

S in mind with the theme a you can even have some for the kids.

Those a favorite.

You don't have to

But at the same time, you can make everything look really nice.

Where can we find you?

I'm on Instagram.

It's just at Shanesty Ireland.

I also have a blog.

It's called She's Becoming Domestic.com, YouTube, TikTok, all the social media.

If you just Google my name, you can find me.

I do think that American flag, and that's

kind of a little bit becoming, you know, the pumpkin pie of Thanksgiving.

I just think it's, but that's a little, that's kind of healthy because you do have the blueberries and you do have the strawberries.

What did you say about the cups for the kids?

What, what is that again?

You

mentioned- Yeah, so I just take little plastic cups and I put angel food cake in it with some cool whip.

strawberries and blueberries, put one of those little American flag toothpicks on top and it's super festive and wonderful.

All right, to make

it

the red, white and blue.

All right, I got it.

I gotta go back to that.

One other thing though, what would you not recommend people trying to serve, especially if they haven't done it before?

Um, that's a great question.

Lobster.

That's

pretty tricky.

a good one.

Lobster is a good one.

I don't know if everyone's going to love lobster at the table.

It's a little tricky.

You don't want to be getting the live lobsters and trying to make them dail.

That could be really disastrous.

I think you just got to stick to the basis.

Brought hot dogs, burgers, ribs, pasta stuff.

People are gonna expect and that's what they want.

I would just say that

would be weird to go to if you're the July party and see a lot of fish or lobster People are like, okay, this is weird.

The only thing I would think would be weirder than that Jim is going to a fourth of July party Let's say mmm at your house and the cake is a Panamanian flag I

Was I would have made a Panamanian flag.

I thought he was from Puerto Rico.

That was the difference.

It wasn't I would

have made.

If he would have come over, I was going to present him a Puerto Rican flag, which is an American, which they're from America.

So I'm glad he's not coming.

I know that would have been

weird.

That would have been weird

because

they're not part of us.

Yeah.

Okay.

So thanks for bringing that up.

Yeah.

Throw that one out to your people there, Shanice.

Yeah.

Hey, this is a lot of fun.

I just have to ask you though, are you one of those people that, you know, then you have people expect you when you do have a backyard party or something, they expect you to have the coolest one in the block?

I mean, obviously, yeah, 100%.

I mean, the parties are themed.

Like I said, I have five kids, so I have a built-in circus in the backyard.

Lots of entertainment, lots of fun.

And yeah, it's a lot of fun.

I love to entertain.

I love having all the neighbors over.

Don't really love the cleanup.

Would really like my husband to step up in that aspect, but that's OK.

We're learning.

Well, this has been fun Shaughnessy any have you ever had any Wisconsin food you ever been up here for anything?

You know, I actually have not I need to make a trip.

Don't I?

Absolutely.

I will say about your dollar general and dollar tree.

Those are good places to get like

the balloons, the decorations.

No, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about like, I mean, all those kind of little things that, you

know, but the fest of the things that you put on the table.

Yeah.

You know, that's cool

stuff.

They don't they don't have the cloth linens.

No, they don't.

But Jim's got several sets.

Yeah.

And I bought those candles, the red, white and blue candles.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Yeah.

That's stuff.

Sorry.

But

why

not

go there instead of paying twice as much as someplace else?

firm believer in that and with five kids like you said Shaughnessy I took my granddaughters one day I told them I said you can each have ten dollars to buy anything you want they were in heaven that was the greatest ten dollars you could

possibly ever

spend

yeah yeah I mean unless be honest guys we're probably gonna be throwing away all of that stuff

That's after the fourth after this weekend.

So it's best to not to invest a ton of money in these decorations that are probably gonna get ripped or staying with your barbecue sauce or whatever it could be.

Right.

Okay.

One last time.

Tell us where everybody can find you.

You've got a phenomenal personality.

I'd love to watch some of your things.

Right.

Thank you.

I'm on Instagram.

It's just at Shanice, the Ireland, YouTube, TikTok, blog, all of it.

So I think there's only one of me out there.

So.

Same deal.

Oh

my

gosh.

Lobsters and linens.

That's his new place.

Nothing says the fourth better

than that.

Before we go live.

Can I have you guys just look at the camera real quick in front of you and just see how you're sitting?

Well, Jim you should be over that way a little bit.

You should both be see how the TV screens are right behind you.

Yep.

See how that works.

Got it.

Perfect.

Thanks guys.

All right back to Mino and the mayor now.

Can you

see him being a wedding photographer?

Two years.

Got it.

Yeah.

Do we though?

in order to get back into welding, don't you first have to be a welder?

All right, Tori, pretty much.

I think he's right.

I think he's on to something.

I think you're right, Jim.

Shaughnessy was great.

She was fun.

You know, what's nice about what she said is, don't make it too difficult.

Yeah.

Just.

Make it kind of simple and get the decorations and

spend

too much money.

Well,

like your hot dog bar,

right?

Was

that

difficult?

That was

awesome.

No, that

was like, that

was... Okay, can I just... No one, no one says about their own party.

It was awesome.

You may not actually judge their own parties.

Okay, let me...

Todd,

am I

right or am I wrong?

All I'm saying, John, it was... Well, Jim would know if it was good or bad, and I think he would be honest with us about that.

First of all, okay, I don't want to say rave reviews.

What was nice about that party was I really got...

to spend time with the guests because it was all set up and all I did was kind of visit people because it was it was easy.

They just got the hot dogs, get the mums, they could beer and wine and there's an open bar.

They could mix whatever they want.

People didn't drink very much that night.

Yeah, I and that's what she's telling you.

Don't do all the work.

Don't wait on people.

Set it up.

Shakuri board, whatever you want to do and let them.

And I think people are OK with picnics.

It's a little bit different, you know.

dinners, but I like that.

And I think she made some good points on a dollar tree and going there to get the decorations and some of the stuff.

Absolutely.

About the food.

But yeah, no, it's great.

I mean, we're going to have parties every night.

What are you doing for the fourth?

We're going to be up at Elkhart Lake.

Oh, that's right.

What's going to be fun about that is I have three adult children with husbands and every night

A different family is in charge of the meal.

That's cool.

And they actually volunteered.

It wasn't my idea.

Like I was trying to delegate.

They are really doing that.

And then, um, like the, like the snacks and stuff, that's me, but it's, it's healthy.

They're not going to, I don't want them to get mad at me.

So like I said, it's going to be, um, healthier things.

Good.

So that's great.

Sounds like a good time.

It's going to be great.

And we have.

Different rooms because there's too many of us for

a

large room.

So yeah, that sounds fantastic.

So that'd be fun.

And then the it's got the beach and rented a pontoon boat and some other

stuff.

Perfect.

Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

And we don't get together as often as I'd like.

So

that's gonna be great.

How about you?

What do you not sure yet?

Not sure yet might be a game time decision.

Put your kids are in

Madison, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's not too far away.

Yeah.

Um, Todd, how about you?

What do you like your family take ours was that we always had the same

thing every single 4th of July for my entire lifetime would go to my Uncle Bill and Auntie Mary's camp that was on Little Shag Lake outside of Gwyn and everybody would be there and everybody would play horseshoes and you have firecrackers and it was always just everybody get together like that and then there'd be some boat rides and

things at night, bottle rockets and, I mean, just fun family type thing.

I think all the summer events at my, for my family were pretty much the same.

Yeah.

You know, you'd grill out, maybe it'd be brats, maybe be chicken or something like that.

Everybody would have a salad or whatever.

So it was pretty standard.

This year I'm going to, um, Oshkosh Menominee Park for the fireworks on Friday.

Cool.

Enjoying that.

A little bit of food truck action down there.

Very nice.

Very nice.

How's your food truck buddy doing?

Good, he's gonna be

there.

Reggie?

Yep, Reggie's doing

well.

Excellent.

Yep.

Excellent.

Big fan of his.

Trying to... Absolutely.

Actually, where's he from?

He's from Haiti.

Haiti.

Could you have him make a flag for Jim's flag?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I just, you know what?

It's one of those things that when you look back, you know, it seems like nowadays there's...

a lot more holidays and a lot more get-togethers and a lot more whatever.

But back then, that was like your one big day of the summer.

Wasn't it?

I mean, there

weren't festivals at every little town, every weekend, everything here, everything there.

That was your one shot.

And then did you drink red, white and blue beer?

My dad used to buy that sometimes.

For that day, right?

Well, I probably, no, I was cheap.

My dad bought it because it was cheap.

It was that papst, old style or Blatz.

Well, we only had that on the fourth.

Really?

Yeah.

Well, we didn't have that Michigan, I don't think.

Cause like I said, we used to come down to shop co liquor and that's where we'd get those

beers.

But yeah, that was red, white and blue beer apps.

I still remember the cans, the whole thing.

Yeah.

I still say Blats is the worst beer I've ever tasted.

No, um, it's not good.

Worst ever.

I've got a picture of him.

I was just a baby.

He's holding me and he's giving me some schlitz.

Yeah, that was up there, too.

That was

big.

That was popular.

But Pam's was my dad's go-to.

Pam's.

But the other thing I'm doing, because my three daughters and their husbands, I'm picking up my mom and bringing her there for a day.

Nice.

Because it's too crazy.

to go to her place.

And

bring everybody.

Right.

And

the other people are there.

Yeah.

We're doing that.

She's going to go.

I'm going to take her out on the pontoon.

But we just have to visit.

And that'd be good.

But that is a fun day.

Because the weather's good.

It's chill.

And there's no gifts.

You know what I mean?

It's like a

little bit of a Thanksgiving.

Absolutely.

I think that sounds great.

Maybe your daughter's home.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

So.

Somebody let us know through even Texas people.

What are your like a family tradition?

that you guys always did that maybe you can't do anymore, that you shouldn't

do anymore.

This is kind of getting up as one of the favorites, because like I said, there's not a lot of pressure, right?

They put on the fireworks.

The fireworks are done by the community, so you don't have to really do that.

You eat, and like I said, I'd like the fact that there's not this pressure of gifts, and you kind of don't have to go to church.

I agree.

Wow, no not bad, but some people I know I agree.

I agree.

I mean you know what?

I'm not as big of a churchgoer as I used to be simply because I

Had to go so much back when I was an altar boy and that just feel like I've got a grace period.

Yeah,

you know what I mean

for the rest of your life

Well, yeah, because if everybody out if other people go like one day a week, okay, you're there and I was there like three months every day I got like years you do have a built

up.

Yep.

Mm-hmm.

Okay, so

I don't know that you could stockpile

I have to read up on that sure that's in the Bible.

It's in the Old Testament Look it up.

It was carved in stone.

It wouldn't be in the old they found it

An archaeologist found it in, like,

some place.

The third tablet.

He just, right.

He found it.

Wasn't that good draft?

Yes.

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Here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank

you very much.

Welcome back.

Mino in the Mayor.

You're in a beautiful morning.

And do we have Marla?

We've got Marla, Marla Capecchi, Penny, and Power Freedom.

Focus on freedom.

Just a little background.

We had you in the studio in Oshkosh a month or so ago, and we were so impressed.

Jim and I were both talking about this.

We were so impressed with people like yourself and others do.

And again, I came from my mother because a serious stroke was disabled for

No, man, 42 years of her life.

Um, I've dealt with so many, you know, wounded people and, and different types of things and amputees and that, and there's a special brand of people that say, I'm going to wake up every single morning and I give these people a bit of a lift and to help them out in certain ways.

And you've devoted your life to that.

So Jim and I were talking during the break and how much we admire you and what you do.

Well, thank you so much.

And I'm so excited to be back.

Oh, it's great to have you back.

That is, um, well, it's.

kind to do, that is tough work.

I, you know, really just to cut to the chase.

It's just, it takes a special type of person.

It's not a come

from the heart.

It's just not a, here's my, you know, my thing and boom.

So tell us why you're doing this and just the special person that takes.

Um, that's a great question.

Why am I doing this?

I fell into it.

I think I shared that the last time I kind of fell into this work.

And I just love looking at all the possibilities of what everyone is able to do and able to contribute.

And I believe everyone wants to live a life of purpose.

And it is so rewarding and it fills your heart so much when you see clients or students or your children or your parent be able to do something that they haven't been able to do and to fulfill a purpose.

They feel so excited about themselves and knowing that you've helped and you've supported them along that journey also fills your heart because you feel that excitement as well.

I'm just going to recap or restart who you are here.

Founder Marla Capecchi-Penny has spent the last 20 years working with children and adults with disabilities as an in-

in-home therapist, respite care provider, special education teacher, evaluator and so much more.

Marlon, her Empower Freedom team are focusing on helping folks of all abilities reach their goals through proven resources, guides, checklists and more.

And to see that advancement, maybe something that we may not notice, but you being that close to it, maybe a small thing, but something that would be

huge to them.

And that's I should have read that part too.

Yeah, you're empowering individuals with disabilities, families and caretakers to live more independent lives and have more freedom to dream again and do what they love to do.

Yeah, it's the first time I remember feeling that moment was I had been working with a client and he had sensory issues was my first client and had significant needs and sensory issues were

or one of them touching different textures, being willing to do that.

And we worked for months on different activities.

And at that time, you know, 20 plus years ago, 25, actually, when I sit down and think about it.

And all I did was one step at a time, just like, you know, get your hand closer to the bowl to touch the shaving cream, because we were working on the shaving cream texture.

And

when he finally touched the shaving cream and then he started playing in the shaving cream.

Like it was such a rewarding experience.

That was the first moment I felt it and I felt it so many times since just that feeling of their excitement when they do it, their pride when they do it, when they achieve it.

I just had one of my lean trainers send me a picture of a client of mine who's just learned to tie a shoe.

You know, it's things we take for granted.

So oftentimes because so many people just can do those things and can experience those things that when you take the moment to appreciate every little small step, that's where it really lies.

I could not agree more with you because I've lived through that too and I know exactly what you're mean.

And we have to give communities credit for advancing

I think disabilities sometimes think about, you know, wheelchairs walking, but that sensory, even here in Green Bay, and I'm sure Oshkosh Appleton has addressed this as well, but, you know, we all worked the booth, the civic media booth at the county fair, and they did a lot more with sensory issues a couple years ago.

And we have Bay Beach is one of our amusement parks here in Green Bay, and they put it in like a sensory...

Smaller area and I think that's just great that people are realizing that it is a disability like you talked about the kid with the shaving cream I mean those are just things that people need to the feel the touch And yeah

So

when you guys are always looking for new employees, aren't you?

We are always looking for new employees I actually just had one of my employees because we're starting to work on our file schedule And it just hit she messaged me last night.

She goes hey, here's what I'm looking at for fall and

Um, one of my friends is going to apply and she's doing this currently and all excited.

And I said, that's great.

We always have a wait list.

Like, and she goes, wait, a wait list for employees.

I go, no, no, no, no.

I go, we have a wait list for clients

who need employees, but tell everybody the type of person it takes.

Again, it's not just punch a time clock type of job.

Not at all.

Um, so as far as employees, it's really.

My leads and my trainers can teach you how to do the job.

You have to have passion.

You have to want to be there.

You have to engage and Just have that heart.

It's just It's the person that when you walk into the room you feel loved Right like you feel good being in their presence Those are those are who we're looking for like that just person where you they make you laugh it's

really looking at that personality because we can teach you how to do the work.

The

impact

that person can have on somebody's life is immeasurable and they might not really realize it.

Wouldn't you agree?

Oh, 100%.

And it's not just on the individual.

It's on the family, you know, and we're really starting to branch out into that as well because

As we've just alluded to the wait list, that's everywhere.

Everyone's on wait lists.

So we're not only now branching out into supporting the clients, which we've done for six years with Focus on Freedom.

We're now building out and supporting the caregivers, offering different seminars, offering different coaching and person classes to help empower them as well along in the journey.

So if you're ready and when you're ready,

We're here wherever you're at in that journey to take that nugget and apply it is really, really what we do.

So we've started to look at it as a whole family approach because we all impact each other.

So tell me the, the client, how they get connected with and power freedom.

And I know you have a waiting list, but still I want listeners to know how to

get on

the list.

So Focus on Freedom is the company that has the waitlist.

So in Power Freedom, I have two sister companies.

So we'll

We'll clarify that.

So Empower Freedom is a subscription-based model that you can access anywhere.

So all those people who are on waitlist, they can check out empower-readom.org and they can go on and I have all the blogs that I've created, which are quick how-to reads, one to three minutes.

So you're not having to spend a ton of time or I have now videos that I'm uploading to give you nuggets of information.

Then I have third-party resources to help you implement the strategy, as well as whatever visual supports.

So I'm not sure if you're familiar with a visual schedule, but think of it as a to-do list, a checklist.

Those types of tools are extremely beneficial when we are talking about children and adults with diverse abilities.

It helps them to structure up what we call executive functioning.

I don't know if you've ever heard of that term before, but it's really being able to organize and put things in order and break them down.

That's really where those pieces and parts come into play.

So in that subscription-based model, they can go in.

Become a member you can pay monthly or yearly and all the tools are there So you don't have to spend the hours the months Researching and trying to figure out how to implement reading these big long books reading all these different resource It's there for you because people don't have the time so that's empower freedom and then focus on freedom is the one I started six years ago that is Based within the counties that I serve

And so the reason that Empower Freedom started was because I was getting calls from all over.

So Madison, Racine, North Carolina, Canada, I mean, all over for help because they found me online.

And I said, I need to start helping these people too.

If they don't have support there, how can we get it to them?

So if they're willing to do it and read it and work through implementing it and connect with me,

that resource is there for them.

And then Focus on Freedom is the company that really works here in northeast Wisconsin in the Winnebago, Audigamey, Fond du Lac counties and and slightly beyond we're starting to to branch out a little bit where we're really working with the clients in the home and doing those wraparound coaching one-to-one in-person classes.

So those are the two different companies.

Are you, do you get funding from the state?

Are you funded through the school system?

Okay, good.

So focus on freedom is purely funded through what we call the CLTS waiver program.

I'm not sure.

Are you familiar at all with the CLTS waiver program?

I'm not

that one, but I, you don't have to get into that.

I just, I'm just, I'm glad to hear that because, you know, there's

But that would be the avenue with which we're funded.

There's a TV station up in the UP that I somehow get on Spectrum Cable here.

And I swear half their newscasts are sponsored by one of the groups up there looking for people, exactly the type of people that you find and train and employ and everything.

But the lady talked, I saw one of the specialists says, you have no idea how many services

We've had to cut back.

That would be helping these people.

We just can't do it.

We don't have, I mean, it's breaking their hearts that they don't have people to help out.

That's really why I started diving into the caregiver piece.

I really started diving in about a little over two years ago, I think, where I started my foundations and caregiving course, which is an on-demand course for parents and caregivers.

It's kind of like a one-on-one style of course.

And then this past year actually I've launched two programs within the last three months that have kind of started taking off and it's all about helping parents and caregivers.

right one-to-one.

So my personalized family support plan, we create a personalized plan where we're working with them.

If you know anything about special education and school districts, it's called the individual education plan and IEP.

We walk through that, we walk through 504s, all of those tools, but we also do and show them how to implement strategies in the home.

So then I'm in working with them.

So for example, the client I'm working with right now, we're working on it.

We did their IEP.

first and now we're working on an emotional regulation strategy in the home using visuals to help them implement and calm during those frustrations.

Marla Kopecki, Penny, Phenomenal and Power Freedom, tell everybody a one-stop shop where they can find you and get any information they need.

So for focus on freedom, it's at focusonfreedom.org.

So that's if you're Winnebago, Audigamey, Fond du Lac Counties, check us out there.

And for our subscription, it's at empower-freedom.org.

Thanks for what you do.

I mean, you really, you truly help make people's lives better who wouldn't have that if it wasn't for people like you and all the people that you employ and take care of these people.

So seriously, from my heart, thank you for what you do.

Thank you.

You bet.

We gotta set our quick break.

Sean in the house, Sean Catspeck in the house.

How he didn't see a little box of treats.

What's up with that?

Thank you for doing that, Sean.

Director of Tours in the city of Marinette logging in Heritage Festival coming up had a nice drive down

didn't have a chance of

course to get you know those little kind of those fruity little

things you brought over that

were so delicious those raspberry ones are unbelievable.

Did you have the raspberry?

I did.

Raspberry is my favorite.

It really comes to that stuff.

Best of all the different fruits.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

Good stuff.

Well like I said I was going to buy you breakfast sandwiches too.

Right.

You pulled off the oldest minor line in

history.

I forgot

my wallet.

I didn't forget it.

I realized where it was.

I was like, I traveled all the way from Marinette without my wallet.

You're doing

all right gas mileage to get

back

home?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, could you give me a 20?

Yeah, like I got a 20 in my pocket.

Um, what we got here, Blats was great.

No one wanted to drink our beer in college when we had it.

Shunt, Brian.

We were talking about back in the day

with the family.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, your dad threw a barbecue or whatever you did.

Do you remember the kind of beer that you had?

We had Stroze.

I forgot about strolls.

Huge Michigan beer.

Yeah, and being a good Chicago in old style.

Old style.

Yeah, old style was.

Was there a kind of a, did it kind of go?

by nationalities.

I think so.

I think so too.

Yeah, I do.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

I mean, you know, growing up, that was my grandfather's beer.

He was German.

That's what I was going to say.

That seems like a real

German beer.

But the 4th of July was not a hard liquor day.

No, it was beer.

It was beer.

Totally.

Yeah, totally.

Because my dad...

Didn't drink beer, but I think he did on that day,

you know, it's interesting my wife and I were talking about this out back in the day that yeah that you know the amount of hard liquor that our parents drink though I mean it was it was I've got these beautiful Tom Collins glasses that hardly ever come out that were my grandfather's that you know, I mean because yeah, everything was a mixed drink, you

know, and I like when they travel and they had those little

No

one ever carries a flask anymore.

My dad

would carry a flask to every game, every packer game, every high school football game.

They would always carry a

flask.

You know what I'm talking about?

Those

little

things.

The jiggers and just to make the stuff.

I had one once again for my grandfather.

I'd like to find that.

Both my grandfathers were German, but my mom's father was on the, well, I mean, he just, I mean, he had his own bar set up.

I mean, it was the coolest thing.

But I mean, at

Packer Games, when the Packers of Skr touched on him, he

passed it around.

He would take out the flask and have a shot.

You don't see that anymore.

But, you know, they don't, I come to think of that.

They didn't really have a lot of diversity in their drinks.

I mean, it was pretty much Manhattan's and Martini's at our house.

I didn't know how to make those

when I was a

little kid, and I mean a little kid.

No, I'm only laughing because I would often joke around that my grandfather would yell out to my uncle.

My uncle actually worked for a distributor, so he'd get all these different types of liquors all the time.

They just yell, Bob!

Fixed me a high ball.

So in our house, it was

a

high ball.

I mean, it just was what it was.

But yeah, I mean, you knew how to make them there.

And you knew how to drink

them

at a very early age.

Yeah.

Todd, I imagine you did too.

Dad was always brandy old fashioned.

So here's, and I got to tell this story, because my dad worked for the railroad for 35 years.

Never, ever missed a day of work.

Wow.

OK, except once.

OK.

It was his birthday.

the night before and he had a few too many brandy old fashions.

So I was getting up and get ready for work and I realized I didn't have any work socks.

So I thought, well, I'll just borrow a pair of dads, right?

So I walked in and my dad's laying in the bed.

And I'm like, oh my God, he's dead because my dad was never in bed at seven o'clock in the

morning.

Just hung over

Never had a brandy old-fashioned again, okay that

yeah until I moved to Wisconsin I had never heard or I didn't know what an old-fashioned or a man Hatton were I those are not other parts of the state or other parts of the country I should say I didn't know what either one of those were Manhattan's aren't everywhere

I had never seen

one before.

Really?

Oh.

I mean, maybe

they are.

I mean,

Brandy, old fashions, I know, are kind of us.

Yeah, and I never knew what an old fashion was.

I didn't know what a Manhattan was.

Okay.

But I never, like, heard anybody getting one.

Yeah, okay.

You know what I mean?

But an old fashion, yeah.

Never until I got here, then I tried it.

And then it's like, I didn't put those martinis in it.

Yeah.

If

you put in too much of that.

Driver moves.

It's like a dad.

Why even buy this stuff?

You know you put it on like a what is that for what is verbose for well in the Manhattan?

It's sweet vermouth, right?

And so it's just a little bit or

I don't get

vermouth.

Well, there's driver moves and sweet vermouth, right?

Are they

now do they have alcohol?

Yeah, a little bit.

Oh, yeah, they do a little bit, but but you know, I think sometimes I think if I forget he wouldn't even know but you know, but it's just a little sometimes you just

so splash.

Yeah.

Yeah

I just never knew exactly what the purpose

was.

The only thing he would change up once in a while was the garnishment on mushrooms or something.

I'll tell you, first time I had a thing with pickled

mushrooms.

Right.

It's like, whoa!

Or even the pickled

green beans and stuff.

That's great.

That's what I'm

saying.

Kind of the fun part of it, you know.

Yeah, I never, I've never put any vegetables in my tree.

No.

No, nothing.

Yeah.

All right.

Oh, well, I think I will put a lime or lemon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well,

I never known the art of Bloody Mary's that people do

around here.

Oh, that's good.

Over the top that.

Yeah, I mean, you got burgers in there.

You've got.

Right.

I mean, it was.

Brought horses.

Right.

Chicken.

Yeah.

I mean.

Chicken thigh.

Right.

It's nice when you put in the hot stick.

You'll have the sausage

stick.

But I mean, now it's like, it's a

dinner.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, they're like 18, 20 bucks.

Oh, yeah.

It's

unbelievable.

It's unbelievable.

Yeah.

It's like a buffet in there.

But it's

amazing how if you just have one Bloody Mary type thing and you just have that one real good pickled piece of garnish.

How much that?

Oh, yeah, the Bloody Mary mixers is the bomb.

That's what makes and there and there are some really good places.

But all

right, you got to go.

I do.

Sean, Sean, we're going to talk about your great logging and heritage

festival that's coming

up.

You guys do it right up there.

Every festival is great.

This is going to be a fun one to

looking

for.

Bring the kids and

re talking.

Alcohol.

A35 with

a cross-distribute.

Back

after this.

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin, live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your

hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Hour number three, Mino the Mayor, Jim, going off to teach his class at NWTC.

Take a look at some of the text we got here.

This is from Vinnie, says,

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I was talking earlier.

I had a situation a couple weeks ago.

I went to a ribs fest and I had three platters of ribs.

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it was super hot and

it was just Sweat like you can't

believe I don't

I don't think I was a pretty sight Michael says John they're good for you beats are good for you but moderation is the word for the day moderation is minos worth worth the day and

Snarky Brian says we're tackled family traditions on the fourth Jason Pierre Paul's family tradition the fourth was Visiting the ER to find his fingers That's wrong with you

Brian.

That was the I mean, how do you pull your hand off and you're the and you're like

starting defense event for the New York But you when you saw that might oh, yeah, you laughed really hard.

Yeah

I laughed so hard.

Oh, yes, indeed.

That was a story.

That was a story.

So,

Sean, how you doing, buddy?

We're doing really

good, Jack.

I was good to

have you here.

Boy, I'll tell you what.

You have a lot of events.

I give you credit.

I mean, you wouldn't think of Marinette being the hub of all these different festivals and great events.

But you are.

You guys have turned that into a destination in the summer with all of your different events you got going on.

Tell me about your latest.

Our latest, which

we've done for 13 years.

Kind of started out hyper localized logging in Heritage Festival,

and that is the heritage of exactly.

Yeah, so so basically speaking back 13 years ago what the idea was is that Menominee was doing

just a fantastic job of Fourth of July.

So we wanted to kind of etch something a little bit different and do something.

Your own identity, so to speak.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we went with the logging and heritage festival and basically what we started doing and what we've continued to do is we focus on our logging heritage.

So we have logging exhibitions, we've got people doing sawing and log rolling, things like that.

And then

but we've continually every year added a little bit more.

So we've got BMX stunt bikes in the parking lot.

And these guys, I mean- They're amazing.

They're probably 30 feet in the air.

They're amazing.

Letting their bike go.

I know.

And catching it.

You know, I mean, if you've ever watched the X Games, that's what these people are.

And then, you know, we've got live music.

And the one thing that the committee, when they started, my understanding is, because now I've been a part of it for four years, but prior to that, this was their focus, is that this was going to be a festival that wasn't going to

be expensive, that we were going to keep it as

inexpensive as possible.

So all the kids stuff is free.

Awesome.

Um, so, you know, like we've got, we've got a ton of jumpers.

Um, you know, the big jumper slide, all that stuff.

Um, we've also got, uh, the bungee jumpers where the kids can jump up and down and do flips.

We've got a rock wall that's client that, that climbs.

Did you try

it

out?

Um, yeah.

No,

you

got me

too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Me and you.

Whoever gets to five feet first wins.

Yeah, I don't think that would be a pretty

sight.

I don't think so either.

You want to talk about flooding.

Yeah.

And then from there, we went.

So we've got that.

We've got food trucks.

But all the kid stuff, face painting, balloons, sawdust, dig, all of those fun things are absolutely free for your kids.

I give you guys credit, man.

You want to make sure you get hit every level.

Exactly.

And then, like I said, live music.

We've got Neon Detour is going to be playing.

And then Oz, the grouper, Oz.

I can't remember the name of it, but they're an iron mountain cover band.

Oh rock and roll band the Oz the band Okay, Oz the band and and so they'll be ending the night and then we have a fireworks display

fantastic

Yeah, and when it's all taking place here.

It's July 12th and 13th So we always go a week after the fourth so it'll be what in a week and a half

There's not

a

lot going on the week after the fourth.

You guys got a good spot there

That's why we chose that was because we really and once again we wanted

to be respectful to other areas doing their thing and saying, OK, well, we don't want to take away from your stuff.

So yeah, it just works out well that it's that week after.

Now, when you guys put together these events, John, and it's all winter type, I mean, people don't realize you're starting probably next year now.

And there

is

so much more pressure and

obstacles in putting these things together behind the scenes, that people would have any idea.

Isn't there?

Absolutely.

And then on top of it, you know, I mean, I've been in this position for four years, so I'm learning the nuance and the rhythms.

But, you know, early on, I had no idea.

So, you know, I'm kind of just cutting my teeth, kind of going through this stuff.

Luckily, we've had some great leadership that has continued to

helping to do those things.

But yeah, early on, you know, and that's the whole thing is that these guys, they're talking.

Like you said, I mean, we'll be taught, we'll be, we'll have a meeting.

Our first meeting is always like in November for the following July.

Exactly, right.

Exactly.

You know, just to kind of like say, okay, well, where are we?

I mean,

there's, people don't realize how much pressure there's involved in putting these things together.

Oh, there, and that's the other part.

I mean, you know, you have a, you have a mayor and a city council who, you just always want to do right by them.

I mean, you know, I mean, nobody says I want to do a bad job.

You know, so, so yeah, you want to put these things together.

You want to put them together in a.

way that really plays towards the customer.

It appeals to the people coming to the

event.

People don't want, I hate to say it, but back in my day, it was almost, everything was more of a beer

fest.

All the church picnics, people just go there and drink, just drink and drink and

drink.

It's not that way anymore.

It totally isn't that way.

And I think to some degree, that's a great

great part of it is that, yeah, there's a little bit more responsibility involved and you want to say, hey, we want to have fun.

We do have, you know, we do have beer tents and we do have things like that.

But exactly.

I mean, Menominee for years used to have a waterfront festival that was out of this world.

It was phenomenal.

But because the beer tent was kind of like you said, the place to go.

And I mean, if you've ever been downtown Menominee on First Street, it's not appealing when you go to a beautiful

in the front, you know what I mean?

And that's what these business owners- That's what it became, and that's what

some of those places became.

Exactly.

I know, I mean I-

I mean, you hate to say it, but even church picnics and all things there were issues at times.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fireman's picket years ago.

Remember that one incident and like, what was it?

Greenfield?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, it was but that was almost the theme.

It's like, let's go there to get drunk.

Yeah.

Type of atmosphere.

Exactly.

It

wasn't family friendly.

No, it because now

everything is

so

I'm glad that's changed.

Yeah, it really that and that's kind of what I know our committee's focus is on is is making that

change.

So now, you know, we have all those things we've added.

One of those, I think they're called henna or henna.

It's doing the little dots on your hand and stuff.

It's more like a native tribal look to it.

Okay.

Almost looks like a tattoo, but it's not.

Todd, I don't know.

Have you ever heard of them?

It's like henna or

henna?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's painting on the

hands and stuff like that.

Yeah.

And so we've added that this year.

So we always try to find something that might be a little bit different than what the normal

event.

And I will say this, though, too, in regards to those things.

And I've had a lot of bar owners joke around, but I went on a bar and everything.

And people are like,

you have no idea the things that come or the responsibility aspect of the knuckleheads how they can ruin an event.

And you know

what I mean?

You know the type.

I mean, for

you've had them just like everybody else has, right?

And you want to just kind of laugh.

I mean, you know, I literally one time had a guy at a glam band concert in Marinette.

OK.

And so for some reason, and they had asked somebody to stand in the back to

keep people off the speakers and everything.

Hey man, can you not sit on their speakers?

They're expensive, right?

Yeah, exactly.

He looks at me and he gets off it and he's just giving me this eye and takes off his shirt.

And I'm like, okay, what does that mean?

Is he throwing down by taking his

shirt off?

Mino, would you throw down with Sean?

I don't

think I'd go against

that, would you?

I would run.

I just was like, OK.

And I said, listen, you know, I just want you to understand that I work for the city and we got police all around here.

I ain't doing anything.

But all I have to do is make one phone

call.

Yeah.

But why is that you always because even Dennis has told me we could talk with this with Dennis when he comes on this week.

He's told me that he's had to kick guys in the face because guys were reaching up at some of the people and he's had to kick

them in the face.

I don't know.

I mean, it's a shame that there's some people that they take that fun to another level and they then feel like they've been challenged.

And you're like, listen, I'm not trying to challenge you.

Have a great time.

I want you to have fun.

I just want everything to be safe.

Because like you said, the responsibility behind it, it's never the person.

It's just like in sports, right?

It's not the guy who took through the first punch.

It's the second guy.

It's the second guy.

It's the guy who catches it.

And that's what they don't understand is that, no, we don't think you're going to get hurt.

We're worried about this personal.

over here, who's going to get hurt?

Where do you get your security from?

The Marinette Police Department.

Oh, they handle everything?

Yeah, they handle everything.

So they'll just, we'll just have them parading around the area and making sure that they just kind of keep an eye on something.

Well, that's

cool.

Yeah.

That's a good way to

do

it then.

Because, you know, sometimes some of these private security things you can get some hotheads, too.

And that's what I was saying.

Because I've seen that.

Yes, absolutely.

And that's why I will say that both our captain and our chief of police, these guys are really good guys.

I mean, neither one I'd want to hustle with, but especially the chief, he's like, his son is a power lifter.

I mean, his son's like 16.

But, you know, but yeah, and they

firmly talk with their officers.

I don't mean firmly, but I mean, they just give great direction.

They give great direction.

That's awesome.

Yeah,

that's

very cool.

Yeah,

well

good.

Okay, we're gonna keep you hanging around.

Is that okay?

Yeah, I

like more about that.

Actually, we'll keep you around when Dana's here if you want.

She's a Northeast brand ambassador for the cross distilling stubborn brothers brewery.

They turn out some amazing product that they have right next door here at the market.

Oh, she's great.

She's great.

Fun friend of ours.

Great friend of the program.

So we're really happy to have her in.

So we'll be doing that.

We'll talk some more about all your great things going on and marinate with

the

heritage fest and everything.

And we're gonna send it to a quick

break.

Oh, you got two minutes.

Oh, I

I was giving you to read

that I was I thought you're dark back there is hard to see you

today Todd you're dark No, you're in a dark place aren't you?

So I

have to ask it.

Did you replace it thinking that me and my granddaughters may have broken?

No,

no, no, what

did you break?

Well, we want to take a picture on the

log on the horses

Did he break something?

Well,

they're plastic and it kind of came off the mount when I we climbed up You know because once again, we got to climb up Well, she wanted a picture and grandpa was gonna show that

he's still athletic

climbing up with her that he could handle that You should

put

a sign up there or something

Sean.

Yeah ironically Sean went on another radio show and said let me tell you about this guy

So I just, I just didn't, I just trying to help.

Stay off the animals.

Stay off the

animals.

Stay off the

animals.

Alright, quick break back after this.

So daddy rest his soul.

Left mom.

Hey, welcome back to the mayor.

The mayor had his stuff out to go teach his class, but you know what?

We're capably filled with the energy and always entertaining Sean Katzbeck, director of tourism, city of Marinette, logging and heritage festival coming up.

Yeah, we're going to have a great festival.

Um,

On Saturday, we also have a 5k run walk.

Oh.

And we have people dressed up as loggers, which is cool.

Yeah, we give away prizes for the best dress.

Hey, I got to tell you, you want to talk about it.

You know, I come from an area where it was underground iron ore mining,

tough job

and everything.

Absolutely.

But then in the other areas around the UP in northeast Wisconsin, those loggers, I was talking to somebody who, when he was a kid, like worked in the logging camps in the summer.

He'd wash their clothes and do it.

He said you want to talk about a tough breed of individuals?

I've got a friend who is He's got to be at least second, but maybe third generation.

Okay.

Okay

I've never saw a guy work this hard in my entire life.

I would never in my life work that hard, John.

I just, I can't even imagine it.

And he does it seven days a week.

He actually won a bid for the city that was like 50 trees that he had to cut down because they had that, they had the ash.

Yeah, ash borer.

So on one street, he had to cut them down and he had three days.

Wow.

And he's like, yeah, I can do

it.

Yeah.

I'm like, dude, are you crazy?

It's just in the genes or something after a while.

But what a tough

life that was for those guys.

Oh, my goodness.

And you think about back when, at least, now there's, the technology really hasn't changed, changed, because it's chainsaws.

And it's always been chainsaws.

But back in the day, you know, it was, it, it, it, it, you were.

Okay,

so there's a weird thing happening.

You know, I old royal is that island off the UP between Canada and the UP so to speak and

They had a terrible thing happen there last month.

Todd, have you been following that with the, they think it was a murder suicide?

A

little bit.

Yep.

Yeah.

The guy, two of the park rangers had to hike 11 miles overnight to get to this campsite.

That's how remote it was.

Wow.

And they found what they're, and the FBI is involved.

It's been unbelievably quiet where they won't come out with any information, but they believe it was a father son, a murder suicide.

Oh wow.

Okay.

But, and it's like, oh my God, at this most, you know, gorgeous place and, you know.

But then, the Detroit Free Press, I think it was, did a story on the history of that island.

Yeah.

And it talked about when they still find graves, okay, from like these loggers who were worked there, and they would just die.

And they just bury them and put up like a little wooden thing

or maybe a stone

and they would move on

because

there was no way to get them off

the

island in time for any medical help.

So

they were, they'd pop up, they still find these graves on the island because these loggers that probably came from Sweden or

Finland or someplace

like that.

And then they would just die and that's it.

That

was their

life.

So what

you guys are celebrating is a really cool aspect of Northeast Wisconsin.

Well, it really is because another part of it that I think people tend to forget just because of how technology has moved so fast is

100 years ago, 150 years ago, which isn't crazy long ago, that was the staple of how we built buildings, how we did things.

We really were not a steal until the 1900s is when that started to move over.

But in the 1800s, and so when you think of our area, think of how strategically placed, Marinette,

Green Bay, all that, you can ride down the bay, you can then go out to Lake Michigan, you can go down to Chicago, and from Chicago, you can go to anywhere in the world.

And down in Oshkosh, of course, all the wood down there, the doors that were created and all that, I mean, right off the Fox down Lake Winnebago.

Your mom worked for one of the places.

She worked for Buckstaff

for a long time.

I

didn't realize Oshkosh had been like...

And it's kind of funny because like some of the white pine was taken from the UP and then floated down and everything and a whole bunch more from your area up there.

Then we go to Oshkosh, then it would get milled and then it's so every

place, it seems like that's how they grew, but it's kind of ironic though.

It's like, okay, so you got Oshkosh with all that.

And then it's also beer capital of like North.

But you know

what I mean?

Germans, like we're talking to Germans that came over to work

with the woods and do those things.

But it's so funny.

You wonder sometimes, you know, I love history.

Just love history.

Fascinated by how towns became who they are.

And it's funny how one thing got it started and that branched out to

this and this and that and I love it when they and I like what you guys are doing in Manitowoc County their their areas do this too they really honor what made them

yeah and that's and that's the idea behind it is to remember that because John I don't know you know like once again a lot of people don't know this

at that point in history, Marinette was the largest, the third largest city in the state.

Wow, I did not know that.

It was its population, it was the third largest in the state, Menominee, which obviously right across, you know, so let's just say the Marinette region, but number one exporter of wood in the world was coming out of Menominee, Michigan.

But I believe it.

So, I mean, it's... Yeah.

It's a great, great heritage we have here.

And it's

fun that you guys still...

Yeah,

so July 12th and 13th, we're going to be doing this.

It opens at noon.

The actual fairgrounds open at noon.

Food trucks free for kids as far as all of the activities for jumpers and all that stuff.

And then live music, fireworks, BMX acrobats.

It's a great, great way to spend a day.

and inexpensively and just enjoy it.

Do people

buy tickets at the door, at the

gate?

No, it's free to come in.

Everything

is free.

Everything is free.

I mean, other than the food and everything, but there's no entrance fee whatsoever.

No entrance fee whatsoever.

No parking fees?

No parking fees, no nada.

It is a great, great way to spend a Saturday.

You know, it's 45 minutes away from here, so come on down.

Are the

Navy guys gonna be walking around?

Yeah, they sure

will.

Now Mino won't go.

No, cuz they make him look bad, right?

You know what you want?

Okay, you want to see women swoon?

When the guys that do the flyover at the Packer games come walk you by in their flight suits, you're an old Air Force guy.

What is it about that?

Women swoon.

Grown women.

Chickstig aviators man.

Get that

on a

t-shirt.

There you

go.

You're

the greatest.

You guys set it up right.

Back after this.

somebody's baby

From local stories to local voices, we're shining a spotlight on what matters right here in northeast Wisconsin.

It's more than just talk.

It's about connecting with the community.

This is Mino and the Mayor.

Now here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Dave, you

can put your headphones on.

Oh, special thanks to Sean Katzbeck, Director of Tourism, City of Marinette.

Go ahead, Todd.

Oh, I think you're saying something.

We've got a very special guest right now.

Dana, I can never pronounce your name, so go ahead and pronounce it for me.

Well, the Polish version would be Pawełczak.

Pawełczak.

But most

people know me as Pawełczak.

Pawełczak.

Yes.

All right, very cool.

Northeast Brand Ambassador for La Crosse, Distributing, Stubborn Brothers Brewery.

We'll all get to that.

But we, Todd, Todd, listen to me.

Hang on here.

I'm trying to chat with, what are you trying to do?

I'm just telling you, I like covered her.

when she was with the all America, or not all American, the state championship, Ashwabana and Jaguar softball team.

Wow.

I used to cover her

games.

Yeah.

And that's how you guys kind of matter what?

Well, not really.

I think that was

the bar.

Exactly.

But we

kind

of

realized through.

But I'm not curious.

I haven't noticed since she was like 16.

Yeah.

And now her son is here who's 16.

Gonna be yeah

a

couple weeks

small world how it turns.

Yeah, or you get back to Sean

Well, you knew my grandfather's story

well, he said my book

and I have that book

tell the story about that

um, so my grandfather was a prisoner of war and you know World War two and I

have this book and actually John signed the cover and everything and it was kind of really kind of cool and amazing and he's got an amazing story and you know that.

It's amazing story.

I

grew up as a child with him coming to schools and discussing and everything and telling his story which is just.

Tell his name.

Sylvester Karch.

He was the coolest cat.

He was awesome.

I remember every time I go into the room I told you this story I couldn't leave until I have banana

split.

Or like molten milk.

Or molten milk.

every single time

or an old-fashioned

but what a great just one of those old-school good northeast Wisconsin guys

yeah yeah it was a great and then my grandmother was Ellie

and

they were just a cool little pair they came from Chicago and so anyway long story short you wrote this you know cool book and my

first one yeah one of the last times I was with him was I'll never forget this the Memorial Day

celebration at Pulaski High School when he and I both spoke and he was honored.

And I remember such a hot day.

Pulaski, I was wearing those big thick uniforms.

It seems like they're bad.

And like a couple of kids dropped and everything like that.

But they still invited me over to the house afterwards for a little beverage.

And I think I still got the, from the Pulaski Times or something, the article about a picture of me, him and your grandma

together.

It's so cool.

It's

so cool.

And then both my parents, you know, went to Pulaski High School back in the day.

And so, um, yeah, just

a small world.

Yeah.

And then they became your heated rival in softball.

Oh, I know.

Well, not, you know, not too much, but always.

Just kidding, Pulaski, we love you.

Well, Dana, tell everybody what you do.

Yeah, so I currently, I work for two companies, actually, kind of a cool little thing, how they put the two companies together for me to represent.

So I work, I do brand ambassador work for

La Crosse Distilling.

Can I just say one thing?

Yeah.

Are you like, what is that?

No, because my daughter does that.

Oh.

Daughter has a great, both daughters, I believe.

And I always say marketing.

How's the marketing work?

I don't know.

We're not in marketing.

I'm like, yeah, I think it's branding, dad.

There's a big difference.

It's like building a brand.

I don't know what the difference is, but so when you say that in the same pool,

right?

It's kind of in the same pool.

So basically, so for Summer Brothers Brewery and it's great because they're right in Chano and then lacrosse distilling.

So this is I have a huge passion for supporting local.

So essentially I.

kind of cover or like help accounts get our brand in restaurants, bars, and the retail stores.

And I just kind of do fun events and things like that to help promote the brand essentially for our local spirits out of La Crosse and then the local beer out of Chateau.

If you ever want to move...

And

spent a lot more for rent,

talked to

my daughter, helped me get a job with her.

She works at a New York City.

Last week, she had to do a thing in the Hamptons for a wine company.

That's so cool.

Yeah, and I said, oh my God, that's so cushy.

Yeah, but Dad, do you have any idea how expensive it is?

We have to get an Airbnb and share it because it's so expensive.

So it's like, you've got such an extreme job, Lindsay, and you're, you know what I mean?

I know, it's

the most fun

work, though, ever.

It seems like.

I'm

like, what is so hard about, like I'm going into bars and restaurants during the day, I'm like, hey, and then you have lunch and maybe have a cocktail, maybe don't, just to kind of, it's all.

relationship building, right, in this kind of work.

I do that.

I don't even get paid

for it.

Exactly.

So it's been great.

And, you know, with the distillery, it's great because we actually, all of our grains and everything are from our local farmers.

Talk about that.

That's one of the ways I wanted to have you on.

Because when we had, Todd, when we did the brew fest or we did our contest, what was the name of it?

Craft pick yes top craft pick.

Yes.

I always said it was really interesting like I remember the guy from fun to lack and other ones where it's like The water they use is from

like on their property.

Oh, yeah,

the things they grow Goes right into their things and that's becoming the cool thing now.

So that's one reason I really want to get you on here explain that what your company is that you're branding for how they use local

products So the the distillery it'll be seven years in August that we opened and so

It's kind of this whole big concept of, in La Crosse in general, the glaciers essentially

didn't touch that

whole

area, so you've got

this most amazing organic farming right in our backyard.

So

there's a few owners, a couple Green Bay guys actually, a couple La Crosse guys got together and they're like, hey, let's have this.

great passion and approach for using our local farmers, supporting local, growing right in our own backyards.

So the distillery, there's a few farmers.

One of the farmers is actually out near Holman.

So he's about seven, eight miles away.

So everything from our corn down to our corn for our bourbon is actually coming like.

Is

that

amazing?

It's amazing, honestly.

And I have a big passion just for farming and eating as pure as we can and supporting our

local farmers.

I know organic is such a cheesy word, but it's true.

It's

so true.

We are organic.

It took our farmer, I think, three years at least to fully go without any spray and pesticides, and it's all open pollination, and it's a really cool process.

And not only is the process of what we do amazing,

relationships with the farmers is what I love the most.

We know them personally, their families, their hardworking, and it's a big full circle.

At the distillery, he actually comes back a few times a week and will take all that spend grain, and that goes back to feed for his livestock, goes

back to the crops.

It's such a full circle thing, and it's just cool to see.

And I'm

proud to support that.

I mean, that's what's so cool about this.

There's all this company out of St.

Louis.

is coming up here and trying to sell their stuff.

This is all right here that's growing right here.

Yeah, it's in our backyard.

It's

like, hey, Wisconsin, you know?

And so for the last three years, we were the official local Vakav of the Packers.

So that was a huge thing that.

you know, we did and was a part of it.

Well, that's the thing though, too.

You know, it's really cool.

I mean, some people were very adventurous, maybe 20 years ago.

Like I remember doing a story when I was in TV on a small place in Cracow and they were making their own.

That's where my dad's from.

Is

it?

Yeah.

Okay.

And but he was telling me the hoops they had to jump through back in those days because the state wasn't quite ready for small town, independent, you know, producers.

But now I think they've seen, well, these people

really quality people and really put a lot of pride in what they're turning out.

Sure.

Wouldn't you feel that way too?

Yeah,

absolutely.

Absolutely.

And kind of just turning little page two with stubborn brothers.

It was this really cool.

I used to work for the distributor, right?

So now I work directly for the supplier, you know, it kind of goes down the chain that way.

As far as, you know, distributing, you can sell or I can't actually sell our products.

I'm just there to promote.

But stubborn brothers, the owner there and then the owner at the disability kind of got together and said, Hey, let's split one rep and then

and she can cover and do both.

So Stubborn Brothers is also great, they're right in Chano, make amazing products, and you know, came from...

Farming their family is original farmers from Clintonville and so it's

really

cool It's always just family owned businesses that I am just like proud to stand behind and be a part of

only had some personality.

I know right I know

I know I know I'm kind of a dud But it's been it's been great and at the end of the day, right?

I I don't look at my job is like I'm not in sales.

I'm in the I'm in the business of people, right?

I mean, I think regardless

what you stand behind.

It's people first, product second.

Right.

But when you got into this business at first, did you think to yourself, oh man, this is, this is out of my wheelhouse a little bit.

How can I do it?

But like you said, it doesn't, you don't have to be a mixologist who knows all that stuff.

You just have to be passionate about what you do.

Yeah, absolutely.

I tell people that all the time.

Yeah, you just have to care and love it.

But I did come from the service industry.

I

know that.

I know that.

Oh, I taught

you how to make an old fashion.

So you

did it.

So yeah, so I kind of came from it.

Well, okay.

We

gotta talk about that.

Yeah, let's talk about it.

How did he do?

Let me just put that right out there.

How did he do making it?

He put me to shame.

I feel like any event I do, you want to come?

Everyone.

Everyone.

Wait a minute, are you being serious about this?

It was actually kind of amazing.

He filled the cocktail to the brim though.

but it was, yeah, it

was amazing.

It was a lot of fun.

We gotta do more of those.

It was so

much fun.

We had a video we did together.

It

was a video, and it was so organic, and that's what's so

cool about all this.

We totally winged it.

It was like we knew each other for 25 years.

But the history of the old-fashioned that you told was passing.

Put me on the spot.

We got time.

We got three minutes, and then we're gonna take it to a break, then we're gonna have more, but three minutes, tell the history of the old-fashioned.

I knew this was gonna come up.

I should have brushed up on Mike.

Google skills, I'm just kidding.

So essentially this, the old fashioned is huge, especially in Wisconsin, right?

And we

have- Like I said, before I moved to Wisconsin, I'd never heard of an old fashioned.

And we have a

different version, right, of our old fashioned.

It's the Wisconsin version.

We add soda.

We add a wash,

you know,

essentially.

You go out of state and they're like, what is this old fashioned you speak of?

You want a Manhattan is what you're looking

for.

So essentially way back in the day during prohibition where, you know,

Distillers were studying down.

There's a lot of things made with neutral grain spirits.

The great bartenders were leaving the country essentially.

So the spirits and the alcohol was so poor quality.

So they had to make it palatable for people.

So that's why how the cocktail essentially kind of started.

And so the basis for a cocktail was your sugar, your bitters and your spirit.

And so old fashioned just really just means this is the old fashioned way of the original cocktail that was made.

So it's just kind of this

Old-school

had a good flavor

components I guess to it

So

I was saying, it sounds like the old fashioned way that we used to have drinks.

The old fashioned

way of making a cocktail.

Right.

And

here today, it's like one of the most mainstream.

Is that cool?

Did you actually muddle in all that?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, he was

muddling.

He's a muddler?

Wow, muddle like nobody.

I know he's a muddler, but that's in different

terms.

I've listened to his show for many years.

It was great, but

yeah, so it was a ton of fun, and I'm just happy to be here

today.

Oh, man, we get to do that some more.

Wow.

You know what's funny, you said that though, because my family grew up with, during Prohibition, with Grappa.

Do

you guys have grappa?

We don't.

No, okay.

Yes.

But anyway, it was so bad.

I mean, it was so harsh that they would put a piece of lemon in the thing.

Just one or two pieces of lemon in the bottle.

Oh.

And let that just give it some kind of cutting.

So

we have one of our spirits at the distillery.

It's called our Downtown Toodaloo Rock and Rye.

It's a

really popular spirit.

It has a profile of an old-fashioned.

Way back in the day, Rock and Rye is kind of one of these

old school categories of flavored whiskey.

There's tons of flavored

whiskey

now.

But way back in the day when the whiskey quality was so poor, they had to put rock candy.

So pharmacists

put rock candy into

the whiskey.

That's what sweetened it up.

So now today we have this really cool category that we make one of ours.

What we use Chris Lai's honey is our sugar sores, lemon, cranberries, and that just kind of macerates on top of the spirit.

And essentially

you have a

better, palatable, approachable whiskey.

Wow.

Is it wrong for me at 847 in the morning to want something?

No.

I walked

in and I thought, oh, I

should have had these prepped

to go.

I'm thinking the exact same way.

In case she's going

back next

week.

I'll be

a regular.

Where do I sign?

Bring it on.

Bring it on.

This is great stuff.

One last quick thing before we send her a quick break as far as with this business though.

You know, years ago, we used to talk about the old school kind of things and whatever, whatever.

There is a young breed of people

that pay respect and homage to those that got them here, but now have their new ideas and marketing ideas.

It's a real nice little combination of the two, isn't it?

It is.

It really is.

So we're going to be sending a quick break.

Dana, pronounce your last name again, both the Polish version and the American version.

Dana, Polish version, Paweł Czek.

Paweł Czek.

Or Dana, American version.

Poel check.

Poel check.

You know, does it depend on who you're talking to at the time?

It does.

I remember the Lions' old football coach, Wayne Fonts.

OK.

But people used to say it looked like, which wasn't a compliment.

But anyway.

No, it

wasn't.

It wasn't.

It wasn't.

But one of the, one of the sports writers in Detroit, I was talking to, he goes, well, he's Wayne Fonts to the media, but he's out at the bars at night chasing women.

It's Fontane.

Oh, yeah.

I love it.

Quick break back with more data right after this.

Every time you kiss me, it's like sunshine and whiskey.

That's for you, Dana.

Oh, sunshine and whiskey.

Dana Palacheski.

Oh, I could be Palacheski.

I'm throwing the esky in part.

Yeah, let's do Palacheski.

I gotta be honest.

I'm really impressed with your son over here.

He's the best.

Yeah, my son Penn's here today kind of listening in.

Wow.

He's a cool dude.

High school wrestler, high school rugby, high school football.

How do you handle it all?

Ah, it's kinda just a lot of work.

I mean, it's like an outlet, you know what I'm saying?

It's like everything that's going on.

I can just go do my sport and I'll hit somebody.

That's cool, man.

Good for you.

Did she ever talk about her glory days in high

school?

All the time.

That's all she talks about.

It's

all the time.

Oh my God.

Okay, Volpen, you did this, but when I was in

high school.

All right.

Easy.

When I was in Jaguar.

Those were the glory days.

They were the best.

I loved high school.

You know, I love those times.

Those were the best.

We were talking about other who else was teams that were good.

I remember the two pitchers.

We've talked about that.

Kapless.

Oh, yeah.

Well, they're my family.

So I'm related.

Right.

That's what I mean.

But they were really good.

Bobby

Joe and Bailey Joe.

Yes.

Hi,

girls.

There you go.

Very nice.

But you guys had a rain.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And they were a few years

older than us, but we kept that

track

going.

I mean, and and I'm just going to, you know, give a little props to our coaches back in the day.

Phil Adam and

Larry Epps.

Larry Epps

was our pitching coach.

Larry, do you know how good of a pitcher he was?

I

sure do.

I

had to catch for him so many times.

I played against him one time.

Did you?

In the Rhinelander softball tournament.

Rhinelander.

Remember that the whole day?

Oh, the whole day for sure.

That's a great little town.

And he was a pitcher, I want to say, for Tommy's Angels.

OK.

And he was incredible.

That guy could make a ball jump.

It was incredible.

And then I went to Arizona State.

OK.

OK.

After junior college, went to Arizona State.

And they had the World Championship, a fast-pitched softball daughter.

OK.

And who was like the star pitcher of the World Championship?

Yeah, Larry.

Was Larry Apps.

Yeah.

Wasn't that something?

I mean, he was your.

you know, assistant coach type thing, but he was worldwide known.

Yeah.

We were blessed.

And, you know, as a high school kid, I don't think you really understand that.

Right.

Looking back now, I'm like, wow, that's such a cool opportunity that we got to work with two of the best coaches.

And that's why I'm going to put a little plug.

We were good bunters because.

We had to practice

against worry

ass.

So he would pitch to us and you'd put your bat out and you're like, oh my gosh,

that ball can fly.

Didn't he have a little mound at his home or something?

I wasn't,

I'm not sure.

I don't,

you know, I

don't know there, but as far as me being a catcher for so many years, I, you know, Phil Adam was amazing.

Love the, love the guy, but I spent most of my time with Larry.

Can we compare fingers?

What do you mean?

Every catcher I know, fast pitch has a broken finger like mine that never healed.

Oh, no,

I don't, but I've had all sorts of weird finger hand, my knees, everything, but it's all worth it.

Those, again, those were the times of my life as far as sports and the friendships I still have, I would say like,

Our starting nine on that infield are still the girls that I see today in

each other's

weddings.

I mean, two of my best friends, I was just at Channel Lake over the weekend, Stacey and Jenny, and we, these are girls who have been in my

life forever.

And me and Jenny always talk about it, because we used to pick people off at third base.

Not everybody does

that.

What's that?

Do you have a secret sign?

What are you going to be throwing?

Yeah, it

was just my eye contact.

We knew.

And it was a little risky to be in a state tournament and have the third base girl leading off.

And I looked at Jenny and Mike.

We're going to get her.

She's off a little too far.

I love it.

That's fantastic.

This is great stuff.

Well, Dana, give yourself a plug one more time and your company is what you do.

Yeah.

Again, so.

kind of do a brand ambassador work for Southern Brothers, Beer and Chano.

If you guys have not had, Aaron is the head, he's the owner there and in the brewery and drop top, try it, buy it, it's the best.

Yeah, it's actually, so it's actually made with sandrop soda.

So it's a

random style.

So I mean, of

course.

And so it's just like, you go in many bars in the area and you're like, ah.

drop tops on tap.

I gotta try that.

It's a

patio pounder.

It's really great.

So, and again, Aaron and his whole family

business.

I know.

Yeah, patio pounders.

I know, I love it.

It's like

I know what I'm doing.

I'm getting an

education here.

So he's great.

His wife's great.

Their family's great.

Again, family owned family business.

And then again, lacrosse distilling, locals, organic

farmer

forward approach.

Great people.

I love my job because I love who I work

for.

Give me a good summer.

drink sitting back in the patio.

Give us a patty patty pounder.

Oh, man.

Like a nice sipping whiskey or something.

Oh, see, if you're talking patio pounder for me, it's our gin or vodka all day long.

OK.

And people, you know, gin is becoming bigger and bigger and bigger, and I want people

to just.

See, to me, that's an old guy.

Gin knows what his dad used to drink.

But we have an

American-style gin.

It's not this, like, chewing on a pine cone

type

of gin.

OK.

And that's what you don't like about gin.

That's exactly because it's like taking a bunch of air fresher from your car and grinding them up.

After I'm done here, I'm bringing that bottle in,

and we're going to

sample

it.

And for you, too.

Sorry, do you have a problem?

Sorry.

Sorry, Jim.

Sorry, you weren't here for this.

Hey, just our buddy knob.

Yeah.

Just said, drop top is the crack cocaine of craft brews.

It's

true.

It's true.

It's true.

And then not only was drop top so big, Aaron then realized how big it was getting.

So he partnered with Jolly Good.

So our newer collab has been called, it's our Jolly Beer Orange Cream Skull.

And that's made with Jolly Good Orange.

Well, those are real summer beers.

That's a patio ponder as far as a.

good thing on the patio.

I mean, any kind of summer hummer or a vodka lemonade or, you know, gimlet.

It's like, I'm all about the lighter style, but we have an amazing bourbon.

Our bourbon is made with like red, red corn.

It's this ancient heirloom varietal.

It's a really cool style and everything is actually.

in our open air giant, like barn

up in La Crosse.

So you could go up

to La Crosse

and see.

$1,800 bottles of bourbon.

It's not.

It's not.

It's maybe $50 on the shelf and

pretty much

all the local places here have it.

You know, I was asked to join a bourbon club.

And I don't know enough about it.

I mean, it'd be fun to just assemble.

But man, has that become a big deal, huh?

It is.

It is.

The bourbon clubs.

And I mean, obviously, we don't do tequila.

And let me explain why.

I mean, a lot of people are like, oh, tequila, it's like, well, we grow everything here.

Right.

Because we

don't have agave.

Guava.

You know,

right?

Are you referring to guava?

It's agave.

Agave.

Agave.

Agave.

Because we don't live in Mexico.

We can't do that.

What?

Guava.

What is guava?

That's a

fruit.

That's a fruit.

But close.

That was so

close.

It's

unbelievable.

Guava.

That's as close.

You can't give him credit like that because he will take all of it and then some.

Wow.

But it was really close

though.

She knows.

Tony, you have to do this for the company, especially her.

But so we had this really.

Crazy other whiskey that tastes like a tequila.

That's really cool.

So,

we've got a lot.

I hope so.

Did I

make the cut?

You made the cut.

Awesome.

This is my debut, man.

This is my break.

First cut.

You could do a podcast called the patio pounder

podcast.

Yes!

Can I do

it with

you?

The patio, Puelchik's patio.

Puelchik's patio,

oh man.

Oh

my god.

Right here.

We're doing it right in this studio.

Deal.

What's your son's name again?

This is Penn.

Penn, really look forward to watching you this season.

Thank you.

Thank you football rugby wrestling wrestling.

God bless your man.

Thank you so much.

Thank you guys.

It's great to see

you too

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Here are your hosts John Minow and Jim Smith

Happy Tuesday to you a nice morning.

This is one of those mornings man.

I would have got you I would have been like rocked like jogging Yeah, where I would have gotten up where it's still really early had a couple raw eggs Got my old sweats.

Yeah, have a towel or you know tug nobody does that anymore.

That's all I know they don't nobody wears those gray things anymore, right?

I

got a

pair

They're

comfortable though, man.

Oh, they're comfortable.

But that was a lost art in getting that towel right right in your shirt.

Just right to keep your neck warm and everything.

Is that what was the purpose of that?

Just keep your yes.

You don't sweat down.

You know, when you're sweating, the cold doesn't go down.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

There was an art that is hard to put in just perfect.

Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, I went to Western yesterday.

I did.

Pick something up or what?

No, no, no, no.

I know it was.

I left something.

It was like I didn't see you there.

How's the crock center going, John?

Good.

OK, good.

You know, do you so yours that is paid for by the taxpayer through silver sneakers?

Oh, you knew that.

Do you have to go twice a week or so many times a month or else it gets

they've never said anything.

Wonder how that works

cuz but I'll tell you what my granddaughters like I said I just for the just

Just subscribe to

that thing or whatever.

So if you get grandkids

or something around take that

and again They've got every place there isn't the Dells or whatever.

They're like grandpa.

Can we come back here?

That

is a good place.

They just thought that water park was unbelievable.

Yeah, just loved it.

Yeah

Loved it, loved it, loved it.

And they don't.

Western doesn't have a pool, so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But anyway, I was surprised how crowded it was yesterday.

And people probably getting ready for the fourth, right?

Yeah, I would think so.

Maybe add 11 pounds or something.

There's

no way you could add 11 pounds.

I dropped seven, by the way.

Ah, you need a new scale.

I think that's junk.

Is battery?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, no.

You need new batteries.

Why can't you just give me, why can't you just give me a, hey, that's great.

Nice job.

Keep it going.

I just.

That's that's significant.

What's it?

What is that called like with a parent almost where it's like no matter what dad dad Look, I got a E-minus on my project.

Hmm.

How come you didn't get an A?

I got an A. I would have gotten an A. Your sister would have gotten an

A. Hey, you guys have been super proud of me yesterday last night like 12 30.

I'll even show you on my phone So I go to Milwaukee pick up my my daughter and I don't listen to the radio I though they should but I just I like dead silence when I drive I was thinking about

But we talked about yesterday my goals.

Yeah, and I didn't say I was gonna buy the Panama Canal I said or help with that.

I said, but I did talk about the Pope.

Yeah And I think I want to do a little survey you like surveys.

This is so I got home last night cuz I was thinking on the way down there.

So we have the Pope to Green Bay comm.

Yeah for marketing Guess what I bought last night Pope.

It's it's it's Pope Leo, right?

Yeah Leo to Lambeau

Oh.

Todd.

You can have the Leo Leap.

This is

going to

work.

You know you're onto something here.

I think I am.

You know what I was reading?

There was a pope over the last over many years.

He was at like Mile High Stadium, I think,

in Denver.

Well, yeah, it's a yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

OK.

Hey, did you see Campbell?

Handle

by the way the other day.

The people there for that Morgan Wayland concert.

You know why?

Did you see their concert lineup?

Yeah.

You know why they're doing concerts again?

Why?

They got their alcohol license.

That's what it is, isn't

it?

Uh-huh.

They jammed the people in there.

Yeah.

What did they see?

85, I believe, for

that.

They're

very, very close to us.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's

was anybody there is anybody out there?

Oh by the way, Michael.

Maybe Michael's there.

Hi guys I've been to the gym at 4 a.m.

And then 30 minutes of meditation my new routine swim Monday Wednesday and Friday gym Tuesday and Thursday Michael That's awesome.

Wow, you know they

offer meditation classes at Western How do you not fall asleep, you know, I know in the morning.

Yeah Close your eyes.

There'd be a good nap.

That would be nap time.

So I

I want to get into that because there's people who absolutely swear by that.

I

would give any, if I could go back in time, if I could go back in time and you could like change something about yourself.

I swear to God, you know what mine would be?

You could change something about yourself?

That's something that I would do.

I would learn how to do.

And now it's too late.

Swim.

Swim.

I don't know why.

It's not.

Hey, we had those people on here.

The

YMCA has said, come on down.

There's adult swim lessons.

Actually, and we had somebody, was that on our show or my show, but it was private?

Because you probably at your age don't want to be, that would be awful if they put you in there with a bunch of like that.

That's what I mean.

No, no, no, no.

It's an

adult swim class.

It's adult.

Yes, it's not like you would.

Adults that

never learn

how to

swim.

Yeah.

Check it

out.

YMCA.

friend

of mine.

Even that show I was telling you about that I've been watching, he's in his pool and it's like, God, that looks so good to swim.

I would be like a seal.

I'd be like a Navy

seal.

That swimming's harder than it looks.

A friend of mine did that and like, because he was a great runner, great athlete, didn't know how to swim and really wanted to do those triathlons and you had to swim.

So he went to the Y, private lessons and learned how to swim and he's

You know, I don't I haven't talked about this if he swims recreationally, but you know, you know, yeah, but and that's tough swimming there.

You get kicked in the head and everything.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's they said that's unbelievable.

Right.

That's like every person for themselves.

So if you knew how to swim, what would you would you like out of the why?

Yeah, that's good for your knees.

It's

good for because everything else I do, you know, you're asking with okay, well, you know, you guys have lived it.

I come limping in here or I'm on crutches or whatever.

And I always have great, you know,

I want to do it.

I'm gonna do.

Oh man.

I walked 8,000 miles or 8,000 steps today.

I did this.

I did that and every time what happens?

You hurt yourself.

I hurt myself.

Something in my ankles or my knees.

You know, you don't

really have to have to know how to swim to do water things because they have that, um, they have exercise in the water.

Yeah.

I mean, that's the other thing you

could do.

Yeah.

Well, that's the big thing in rehab now for sports.

is that's the number one thing they found is having guys run in water and water has become so funny.

The thing we're most abundant with here in our world.

Okay, and there's almost like they're just finding out new uses for it.

But it's like, okay, the number one thing that has saved people from heat stroke now, hey, a big bucket of water to sit

in.

Imagine that.

Michael says, your swimming has been amazing.

My body feels incredible.

Yeah.

And you know what's really good is those reverse wave pools.

And so I've heard, is that the Michael Phelps thing?

Yeah, I don't know.

You know Carl King had one in his house.

Oh, really?

Mm-hmm.

That guy's in great shape.

So yeah lived a long time Todd What?

You're from a small town though.

Did you have swim lessons?

No, no,

okay.

We did

my

dad never knew how to So my dad didn't either.

My dad

didn't know to swim.

No,

nobody in my family knows how to swim

Yeah, he did you could jack knife off the he's a good diver.

I did

really?

Oh, wow at one time we went to

No at your house.

No with this swim club a swim club, you know like you pay and then oh Tourist family swim club We didn't have a swim club.

It's the three pools.

I was your swim club.

I was a pond out back No, we went on like a little trip and he I remember that I'm actually I must have been a little little kid, but he dove off the board and You know touch his toes and wow.

No, he came up and he was bleeding

We all freaked out.

Hit the bottom?

Yep.

You goodbye.

I still say one of the freakiest things ever was the Olympics in 88.

With that Luganis?

Oh,

yeah.

Oh, that was good.

Was that 88?

I think so.

So do I. Wow.

Yeah.

That was just.

Did he, he hit his head though,

right?

Yeah.

I remember the blood starting to come out as he's going down.

I remember that.

88 was right.

88.

That was nasty, man.

That was really nasty.

Some of those sports, they're, they're scary.

Do you see that new sport, the dumbest sport in the history of the world, not they started up?

What's that pillow fighting?

No,

God, really?

I think ESPN even had a thing on it.

No.

Okay.

Here's a

question.

Okay.

No.

Let me just ask this question.

Is it like, you know, like athletes doing this or is it kind of the, it's two

people in a ring.

Is it bras and panties?

No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, it's not.

It's like, yo, WWE thing where they get real skanky.

It's not that.

Do they have two pillows?

Is it like gloves?

Or is it gloves?

I think it's just like, if two people would have a pillow fight, that's how it would be.

I remember American Gladiators, and they had those poles with the pillows on the end.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The

jousting kind of thing.

Pungy

sticks.

Yeah.

Yeah, I remember that.

I remember that.

Yeah.

Yeah, and then they're beyond the thing.

Remember trying to knock the other one off?

Oh, absolutely.

On the

pedestals,

right?

I used to watch it all the

time.

So how do you, do they really knock people out?

What is that supposed to mean?

Because we all know you are watching it.

Oh, God.

Because I appreciate athletic ability and competition.

That

is exactly why you watch that show.

God,

Todd.

Remember

Dynamo?

She was awesome.

That show was a coming of age for a lot of young

men, I

think.

You didn't watch it?

No, I didn't.

The the pillow fight thought you win.

You just knock them down and you win.

You look that one up.

I'll look it up.

All right.

Yes

So that's making

a comeback or it's

it's brand

new.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that's just something I was reading about it.

No, so but I was talking about it's it's fun when you find a new what you find something I did.

It's called the PFC pillow fight championship.

There you go.

Yeah

And I think the pillows may have a little bit more than just feathers in them.

They look a little heavy, but

yeah, that's pretty much what you're doing.

It's, it's like MMA.

Yeah.

They're, you know, they got the gloves on, they

got the

shorts,

they're doing

that, but it's pillows.

Yeah.

No helmets.

No, no helmets.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm sure the police and fire commission loves that

title.

I mean, there's some big sponsors on this thing.

Wow.

But didn't ESPN televised it?

The pillow guy.

It's possible.

Yeah, FC pillow fight championship

There you go.

Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, I'm just saying but you know what so I found this new TV show What's the name of a time?

Oh, man, I'll have to relook it up Friends and neighbors neighbors and friends But anyway, it's John Hamm who I really like from Mad Men it's a

Roger's old girlfriend whose name I still can't remember your friends and neighbors your friends and neighbors.

Yeah, John Hamm.

What's her name?

They're Roger's old girlfriend.

Oh, yeah, Olivia.

I love your month.

Yep Amanda tween.

No, Amanda Pete Amanda Pete man to Pete Some other big name type people, but it's but it's about this guy multi-million dollar multi-million dollar hedge broker mm-hmm what there's and Lose this job

There's a little something something at work yet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay So not to give away the whole thing, but he's almost like basically broke his wife leaves him for a former NBA player So he's just out in the you know, whatever nothing, okay?

So he starts he like his people.

Hey listen, we're going to Belize for the week just kind of keep and you'd go in and like steal their Rolexes And that's like supported himself from the none.

It's really good.

Has anybody seen that?

What's David Todd?

Friends and neighbors.

Yeah, something like that.

Yeah, you got to watch this if you get a chance.

It is really really you know sometimes when You see stuff coming and it's like okay.

Oh those writers kind of phone this one in

but then it totally isn't just like You go

the other way that's when you know you've got a good TV show that you want to keep

Breaking bad and suits did that to me.

I just like this is

yeah

unbelievable.

Yeah, that's so it is it like

So you can binge watch it.

It's all done.

Yeah, so the series are done.

So it's been on for yes, I think

just I think it just got 20 25.

Yeah Yeah, it's been on so you can watch it till it's yes.

Okay.

I watch the whole thing It's tough when you get into that and

then you forget for a week

Yeah, I know

exactly Terry says if it's like the pillow fight an animal house, I mean

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And this guy is still rocking

today.

He's

the best.

Isn't that amazing?

He's going blind.

He has something.

What year?

73.

73.

Congratulations.

Jim, that might be the first time you beat

John.

I'm going to say crocodile rock was 72, though, because I think that was his first big one.

Man.

Yeah.

But isn't that for longevity?

And he was performing back then.

That's what I mean.

I'm just bringing it.

Yeah, it's not

like he was just Yeah,

right

music.

I regret we're talking if

I stop I mean oh Todd who are you okay?

I'm gonna give a top five list of that could be as okay Eagles I'm not spending a hundred bucks for a ticket Elton John Rod Stewart Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan I throw all five.

I had a chance to see I would say Fleetwood Mac would be in there for me too when they did their

Well, I saw, what's her name, did her own thing here, Therash.

Stevie Nicks.

Yes.

Stevie Nicks.

Went to that.

That was cool.

Did you go to that?

Stevie Nicks thing, when she was in town.

She was Therash?

Yeah.

I don't think

so.

So I was glad I saw her at least.

Bobby

Vinton.

She wore a blue velvet.

I haven't seen that yet.

So much of the better songs.

I

don't know

why you guys pick on that one.

I'm glad I saw Elton John.

Yeah, I wish I would have one Did see The one you want to see Bob not Rod Stewart.

Yes.

I'll rod Stewart No, the other guy I went with my Bob Dylan.

Yeah How did I pass up the Eagles?

Oh, but you know what it seemed like, you know once they reunited

It's like they're gonna be together forever.

You know what I

mean?

Yeah, they're gonna he proved they performed here with the symphony, right?

I don't know.

It was at the rash.

Yeah, okay But it's like

oh man cuz then it wasn't long after wasn't that Glen for I got sick got some weird disease and then died I'm glad I saw Bob Seeger.

I've seen Springsteen twice I'm glad

I saw the drummer Don Henley

No.

No.

Phil

Collins.

Oh, Phil Collins.

And Donna wanted to see him, so

we saw him.

And she's

really glad.

Yeah.

And he was really, really good.

Like, sometimes... He's got issues too, though, doesn't he?

Yeah, he's not gonna play good.

You talk about, you know, we didn't call it foreign.

They just weren't into it, you know?

But he really worked hard.

He was, that was great.

And one of those artists back in the 80s...

I mean, hit after hit.

Yeah.

I mean,

just

incredible together.

Just put it out with Genesis without.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Country wise as such night tween.

Glad I saw her back in her heyday.

Um, Toby Keith.

Uh, I don't, I didn't see Tim McGraw in Faith Hill, but you know, they.

They've brought some big-time people through here.

Although, you know what's funny?

When you go back and people put it on Facebook, like in the 70s, at the Brown County Arena, it'd be like Johnny Cash and George Jones, and it's like, stick it, front row, $6.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

I mean, they had some big names come through the old arena.

Yeah.

I wonder what those people thought of it back then.

Was it, I guess it was

okay, huh?

The arena?

Yeah.

I think so because a lot of a lot of the places they would play were like

that, right?

That's right.

They were

rodeo places and

it's amazing that Green Bay, I mean, I guess, but, you know, they picked up, you know, Chicago sticks.

There's a lot of, they had some decent entertainment here when we were in high school.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I remember down in

Tucson,

you'd have, they'd have those things

and I went

to them and you're, you're not, you're not joking though.

Places where they'd have the carton or the circuses and rodeos

and

then a concert.

Yeah.

And you just, when you walked away, you just had that certain smell

to you.

Yeah, well, it's weird that there's so much entertainment dollars now.

It's so competitive right now.

And it's, I don't know, is that, you know, what do you pick?

There's, you know, there's so many more venues right now.

There's the music.

Well, you can't go

to a thing for less than $100 these days.

Can you between

parking and buying a beer?

If people budget, if you would say, well,

Let's say you're going to do a family budget, $2,000 for entertainment, which is a lot.

You know, you throw a couple of packer games in there.

If you have a couple of kids, you know.

Some money.

Okay, I was going to run this by you.

I saw a thing where it's like, okay, guy, maybe he made this up, but it's, I can see this being through.

He said, we had three kids in the family.

My dad was the only person that worked.

All three kids went to college.

No student debt, no whatever.

What happened?

at what point did some, cause when I went to Arizona State, it was dirt cheap.

You know what my tuition was at ASU like five grand a year, a year.

And we're not talking the dark ages here.

We're talking late 70s, early 80s.

So I mean, when did, when did that just go, you know, the cost of education goes so crazy.

And why?

Wouldn't you say that rose as high as anything else in the country?

Yeah, that's why I can't like listen to Charlie Kirkwood's a lot.

Is it, you know, is it worth it?

I mean, it's like, my God, the price of education is mind boggling.

And is it, you gotta, is it worth it?

That's what I mean, is it?

I don't know.

And I think a lot of times, unless you're a doctor, right?

Right.

It's tough to pay off those loans.

Oh my God.

Because a lot of places want you to have a degree

But they want to pay you 16 bucks an hour.

Exactly.

Absolutely.

No question about it.

But I will say one thing.

I am an advocate for community colleges.

Get those same things at a tenth of the price or whatever, the same classes.

There's a lady in town.

She used to work for the city, work for NWTC.

And her big thing is student debt.

And I went to one of those seminars.

It was at the Meyer Theater and some girls stood up.

She's a hundred thousand dollars in debt.

No, but get this John, two degrees and they're in art history.

Really?

And no disrespect, but how many jobs are there

out

there?

And then she was she works for a downtown association.

Thirty thousand maybe?

Yeah.

I know.

Dad, sit down and talk to you about this.

But it's really easy to get that money.

You know what I mean?

It's easy to get that.

I just think there's got to be some kind

of... I know.

I know.

I'm with you on that.

Because I don't

think she's gonna... boy.

I mean, I didn't have a dime in debt.

I wouldn't even know how to do that if I was in college.

I worked for the mines in the summer and my dad helped out a little bit and boom.

That's all you needed.

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63 in Green Bay, 64 in Ampton, 63 in Oshkosh.

Sunshine high in the mid 80s today.

Today is July 1st international reggae day.

All right I'll tell you what and everybody should do it one time Go to Jamaica.

Yeah, and sit on a beach and hear a reggae kind of entertainer It is really cool.

I mean, it's one of those things.

It's kind of like with bluegrass I like it but it kind of sounds the same after a while does but one night sitting in like a Jamaica on the beach that is quite the experience

There's a local band called well kind of local Luminati Okay, I think we've had them on the show possibly or members of the group But they do reggae and they'll take songs like Ring of Fire and

turn it reggae

stuff like that.

So it's it's songs you kind of know Yeah,

but you know where that might come from though, you know Johnny Cash Yeah, lived there and he used to bring those entertainers in all the time So I'll bet there was some kind of connection could be between Johnny Cash and the reggae scene

but

It's like happy music, right?

I mean, it kind of like makes you feel like chill.

Yeah.

You just feel good music.

Yes.

And Jim's favorite, maybe a little weed with that.

That's somebody else.

That is like, you know, yeah, don't

worry, be happy

stuff.

It really is.

I

mean, it's cool.

You got to experience that one time.

Just don't go off the resort.

Well, yeah, I did.

You know what?

I told you that.

country doesn't do much for me.

Because it's so sad getting to the resort and then it gets there.

It's literally sad.

Yeah.

Too much poverty there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Although

I will say.

And then you go to this all inclusive, it's like.

You want to know what the worst, like I've never been to Skid Row in Los Angeles.

I've seen, you know, video and whatever.

But the worst, the most sad thing that I've experienced over the last few years, going to Milwaukee Brewer Spring Training Site in Phoenix, Arizona.

That part of town is so it's all homeless It's all people living on the bridges with like a tarp with cardboard.

You wouldn't think one of our own cities

would be that way.

What?

All our

San Francisco, New Orleans, San Diego, they all are John.

But you think,

oh, we're Scottsdale, Arizona, or beautiful, the resort, the PGA is here.

And it is blight for miles.

Miles.

But you want to stack to my buddy of mine, those houses are still like $350,000 houses.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's really something.

If anybody's been to spring train, I'm not trying to discourage anybody, but just that area getting to Mayville.

It's really something.

Nah.

Get arms around that.

I know.

Uh, it also chicken wing day.

I hate to say it.

In my opinion, a little overrated.

The amount of work for the amount of the reward.

Mm-mm.

Like crab legs.

Give me boneless chicken wings.

Give me thighs.

Give me a good thigh.

Yeah, no, that- I like it.

Dapples and oranges.

That's like fish fl- No, no.

Chicken wings are chicken wings.

So...

Why, okay, first of all, chicken wings, they're not a lot of work.

They're a lot of work.

Would you like, what do you like, Parmesan, garlic?

Those are the best.

Doesn't matter.

They're a lot of work, Jim.

That's like stringy little pizza.

And the bones are kind of fun to eat.

The bones are like chicken nuggets that little kids eat though.

Overrated a

little bit, overrated a little bit.

For

the

amount

of work.

Put them in a grill, just no.

I think they're there.

I think they're they used to be a waste.

Tom's playing the music.

I mean, Todd's playing the music.

Go

ahead, Todd.

Reason number 593 that Jim and John are not alike.

They're fun to have around.

I would.

That's not a meal or anything, but they're a

mess and they're whatever.

I'll tell you what is under.

I'll tell you why.

If they're good,

if

they're

really

good, boy, they're

worth

it.

If they're just kind of well, you know,

but.

Cause I used to buy bags of them from, um, what was the place?

Do they still have that place over on West Mason Sam's club?

Do they stop at Sam's clubs?

Yeah.

Okay.

That's why those

big bet you'd buy those big things of everything.

Remember?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They bulk.

I gotta tell you something though

that they're overpriced though.

I mean, that used to be just to be a wasted product.

Somebody came up with it and it's like crazy now.

They're, they're way overpriced, but yeah, they're, I just, it's nice to have as something.

So anyway, um,

I gotta tell you, Todd, you would have loved this.

You would have loved this.

And I felt back, I'm sitting there by myself.

Like who's the creepy guy sitting by himself with his face just covered in barbecue sauce and just eating and drinking beer and everything.

I went to that rib fest that our guy Cody Creplen was a part of up in Brussels a couple of weeks ago.

I had three platters of ribs.

I gotta be honest with you.

They were so different because everybody had their own different sauces and stuff.

And I buy one from one place, another one, another, another one.

Oh, when you get good barbecued ribs, that's got to be as good as anything you could taste, isn't it?

Ribs

are good, but that takes a long time to cook.

I know.

So that's patience.

But you could almost like taste the

time and the effort.

Ribs are good.

That is great.

But that's ours.

I know, I know, but it's a cook and

but I would rather go to that and just devour three platters of something over wings.

Absolutely.

Hands down.

Yeah.

Today is also postage stamp day.

Where do you, where do you buy a stamp these days?

I

don't

know, but I do whoever came up

with Nick Barkatsy.

You gotta find an old person.

But the forever stamp was the best idea ever.

The U.S.

Post Office, I don't give them a lot of credit for business acumen.

That was a great idea.

What was it?

No, you buy a stamp, it's good forever.

You don't have to like, remember you had to look around for those two cent stamps to put on with it.

You buy a stamp, now it's good forever.

I did not know that.

John's been around for like 15 years.

Are you serious?

Yeah, it's great.

So all you do is go buy a roll.

Now, if you bought them, 10 years would be cheaper than they are today.

I don't know how much stamps are, but if you buy it today, let's say they're...

I think they're 52 cents or 55 cents.

I don't know what you are, but you buy a roll of stamps, and if you mail it in 2032, that stamp is still good.

Okay, that kind of takes away from the poor guys or the artists.

Remember in Fargo, which says, how did you do?

Oh, I only got the four-cent stamp.

See,

those days are over.

Well, that's good, though,

because then when somebody, the price goes up, they need them.

You really think so, Margie?

Oh, you betcha.

Remember?

I do.

That was a weird movie.

That was a great movie.

Oh my

God.

That was

a great movie.

That was a COVID movie, right?

Huh?

No way before COVID.

Oh my God.

That was way before way, way, way, way before.

Yeah.

I watched it during COVID.

Yeah.

That's what I watched.

Oh my God.

I can

recite

so many

lines from that movie.

Do you

want

me

to take some time?

No, thanks.

No, that lion thing I watched during COVID.

That was such a, ugh.

The what?

You watched the Lion

King?

The Tiger King or something, right?

Tiger

King, that Florida thing.

Oh yeah, I didn't like that at all.

I didn't even see it once.

Uh, it is international joke day.

All right.

Uh, ginger snap day.

Not a fan.

Not a fan.

I love them.

I love them.

All right.

Zip code day.

I don't know why zip code has a day.

Uh, Liv Tyler is 48.

Um, Melissa Peterman, who I'm trying to figure out.

Maybe this will help.

She

was Barbara Jean on the Reba show.

Okay, she still hangs out with Reba a lot.

I

think she's at

Reba's new show that

okay.

I know you mean

yep

You know, it's good about like redhead like ginger type people

Stand by for some really smart talk now from John Minow from Bill Barr.

They don't really age Like Reba McIntyre doesn't look any different than she looked 25 years ago

might be a little bit plastic surgery

Maybe you know little but it seems like you know, that's how they come out They're stamped that way and they just stay that way

You ever noticed

that?

No?

I

would say no to

that.

Okay.

I mean, look at Lucille Ball.

And her hair was probably not red, but I don't know that Rebus is red.

But it's like their hair doesn't get gray, it seems like.

Let's all die.

They don't get age.

It seems like they don't age.

They don't get wrinkles.

Lucille Ball at the end.

We're okay.

I want to be in the show.

Pamela Anderson 58 boy Boy have you seen her lately?

Yeah, no disrespect, but she's let everything go completely natural Just completely natural you'd not know it was her I mean you realize how much people used to put into making themselves look like a character With all the injections all the different things and she's let it all go and I'm she's coming.

She's still great, but I mean not

What would be the word we used to use for her?

Um Not full up choice anymore.

Does anybody use the word voluptuous anywhere?

That's

what I would think.

Yeah.

Yeah Just like looks like a mom looks like a mom taking her kids to school Carl Lewis 64.

Okay You guys have to admit worst rendition of the national anthem of all time Yeah, that was bad.

I think that was 88 too.

Is that 88 Olympics?

Do you remember that?

when he was singing the name.

We played it on the show one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because he won like his four or five gold medals or whatever.

So then he was the big soul and he wanted to become a singer then.

He's gonna become a big

singer, soul singer.

Yeah.

So I think it was a Dodgers game.

He was gonna sing the national anthem.

Oh.

Poor guy.

1993.

93.

Oh, it was horrible.

Dan Ackroyd, 73.

Debra Harry is 80 from Blondie.

She's 80.

80.

And this was in 1980.

This song was from 1988.

78, 79.

77, 77.

She was great.

Jamie Farr, 91.

Clinger is 91 years old.

Good for him.

Brewers at the New York Mets tonight on WISS.

That's at 530.

What else we got going here?

All our techs go to the text line.

Zeppelin is touring first time since 2007.

October 28th, that's United Center in Chicago.

Let's all go.

Says Michael.

How old are those guys?

They got to be close to 80, don't they?

Such a nice area down there.

Where?

United Center?

Woo!

I was there for spring scene.

You gotta be careful.

Some of those neighborhoods, uh, the one band I'm glad I got to see was a grateful dead one.

Jerry Garcia was still alive.

Chicago 1992 till 1995.

Boy, they had a follow.

Was that the most devoted following there was in the history of American

music?

I don't know.

It, it was up there.

I mean, I was unbelievable.

People just, I told you my brother was one of those guys.

It's surprising who some of those people are.

Like, I forget, it wasn't like Dan Rather, but there was some news person who- Well, there's some professionals

that followed those

guys.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

And they were

like passionate.

My top five would be the Flying Burrito Brothers, Buffalo Springfield.

I remember Buffalo Springfield albums when I was in high school.

Keith Whitley.

Linda Ronstadt.

I would love to see her in the 70s.

Rolling Stones.

Yeah, those are all good ones.

Got another text here.

Happy Tuesday from a tent at Highcliff State Park.

Had some fun with four raccoons in our screen tent last night.

Note to self, don't forget to put the dog food in the truck before you go to bed.

Good idea.

Mike, wow.

Been listening to you over 20 years, John, but you're on thin ice when you say chicken wings are overrated.

Todd and a peer.

Dentist school says Kyle, $130,000 tuition a year.

You know,

Kyle, when we got that, I don't know if that's that bad, because you what make, 160?

So paybacks, maybe you gotta live, but you get that paid off in five years, four years?

No?

I don't know,

man.

You get a lot of money there at 130 a year.

How

long you spent at school?

Four

or five years?

What is it?

I don't know.

I don't know.

1988.

Be happy.

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Hey, welcome back,

Man on the Mirror here, and a beautiful morning once again, and a great way to start the month of July.

63 in Green Bay, 64 in Apton, 63 in Oshkosh High in the mid-80s today.

Todd, you getting big vacation-type plans this year?

No.

I know, you don't really, huh?

No.

I mean, you could.

You're, you know, you're...

Tell you what I did do yesterday, though.

I pulled some beats out of my garden.

Okay, and cook those up and had those.

Okay.

They're okay.

You know, I'm big into health food.

Okay.

Natural.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And, um, beets are one of the most underrated nutritional things a person could possibly eat.

Yeah.

Isn't that something?

I'm like in every way.

It's less than me at a beach on Tuesday.

Okay.

So, no way, Jim.

Why do you have to do that?

Why can't I just come out with some of

my knowledge?

All right, all right, all right, all right.

Okay, go ahead.

I would agree though that beets are very healthy.

And they're really good, right?

They are.

I gotta be honest with you.

I have not, I had a beet salad at a restaurant one time, which is really, really good.

Cut up in those little cubes and stuff, that was good.

But I don't think, I don't know unless you grow them, I guess they're in stores.

I just haven't had them.

How do you cook them?

I just, I boiled them for a little

bit.

That's some butter and salt and pepper.

Just slice them up like that.

That was, yeah.

But a salad bar at like a supper club and you get the beat,

the pickle beats.

You always have to do that.

And I pulled a couple of potato plants and they were

like

smaller potatoes, but I made a little bit of that too last night.

Okay, so I was going to go back.

The other one that is underrated is sweet potatoes.

Yeah.

First, how good they are for

you.

Yeah.

But I think I told you that my go-to snack when we're at our place this week, because my kids, oh, don't do that.

I don't bring all that food.

is gonna be that bruschetta.

And we cut the, I cut the mint for, I'm just gonna throw that in the water, ice water, you know, cause that's always good.

So I do too.

But then I, yeah.

And then we- Where do you get mint?

Do you grow some?

Yeah.

All the stuff is out of the, we have just that, you've been at my house, we just had six foot flower bed.

It's amazing what you can pull out of there.

Yeah, absolutely.

And we got, but I really like the bruschetta.

Yeah.

Okay, people should.

I just cut that stuff out of that garden.

Parsley or do you use cilantro?

Yeah, cilantro.

And that's really good.

And then I put on the, you know, I don't put, I don't put it on olive oil, but I get that stuff from, it's not vinegar.

I get it over at my buddy owns the title town.

It's kind of like vinegar, but it's a little thicker than that.

Balsamic?

Yeah, it's balsamic.

It's even a little, it's not really called balsamic.

So it's more restaurant stuff, but man, is that good with the mozzarella?

I mean, you know what, everything, everything I eat, you know, is like really spicy.

Like when I make my scrambled eggs, I put in garlic, that crushed garlic, and I put in jalapenos.

I bet that's good.

It's really good.

And then I even put cayenne pepper on it.

I try to make my, I try to make everything so spicy.

That's what I mean.

I want to make, I like to like sweat when I'm eating something.

You know what I mean?

We're literally like going for it a sweat pop.

So you go to the face by yourself

I got the table by myself napkins

I was in the bar.

Yeah, it's

really hot.

So I went in the bar

Tina and I was sitting at the end of the bar and I actually thought that

did you pat your forehead with I was sweating Oh,

I

was sweating.

You're right for you guys.

I

think I even took the beer bottle like rubber you guys like forehead a couple of times So was that really hot day?

Yeah,

and I didn't want to sit outside because then you're just you know, you're drenched

But yeah, I was

funny.

Were the, were the ribs spicy or was it just the meat sweats because you were having so much of it?

A little both cause, but the thing is, I wish they would have had it more where you knew exactly who or what type, you know, cause then you would know, it's like, Oh, if you ever see that guy sometime, I mean, Cody's are always good, but I mean, you know, to know somebody else and you see that pop up is, Oh, you gotta try that guys.

We're eating really fast.

Without question.

There's not even, I

was, I was

like, and that would be torture for me to watch someone eat.

Yep.

Vinny just texted and he said, minor sweats, just eating popcorn.

Much less the runs.

I just told Jim that this morning, I would, my t-shirt, when I woke up this morning, it was drenched, drenched.

I just sweat.

I don't know why.

Yeah.

But that, the spicy stuff, the garlic and everything that, that's really good.

That's a good type of sweat.

I don't know about this text.

What?

Beets are full of sugar.

Are

they?

Well, they're called sugar beets.

They do have a lot of sugars in them.

Yeah.

But they also have some other vitamins that are phenomenal for you.

Yes.

But yeah, they're, I mean, they're called sugar beets, but that's true.

They are.

But I got to, okay.

The old fashioned buffets, you'll supper clubs like Mahoots.

Oh, that's all you need.

Right, right, right, right.

Yeah.

Just go back.

We have somebody coming on though.

I want to, what's the best snack?

because in 80 degrees, the snacks aren't the same as football.

Right.

Right, right,

right.

So those pickled beets, anything cold, that would be good.

Greek salads are good this time of year.

I love Greek

salads,

you know?

Love it.

But I want to learn how to cook ribs.

That's a long process.

Well, I'm going to build my own smoker.

You're not going to cook them in the oven, right?

That's what I mean.

I'm

going to build a smoker.

You can't have that.

On your deck.

Oh, you can all right.

All right, cuz I found my welder that I bought from Harbor Freight.

I'm getting back into welding

Okay up your smoker Why don't you just put some wood chips in like a coffee can have that put that on the grill let that smoke and put them on and look at two and one

I want to do this, right?

Yeah, that's then you have two smokers then you have a smoker and a grill on your deck that looks

Little junkie.

No, I won't I'll camouflage it put stuff around it

Brian

says good day

for Johnny

for a DJ Johnny sweats.

It's a DJ name.

Oh,

yeah.

Yeah, they just roll a refrigerator out there.

I just feel so healthy when I sweat

Who

you

if you're if I'm in a gym not when I'm walking around the house or in bed.

Yeah,

we're sitting with a plate of rib

and out of the bay.

Yeah,

I don't know I just

He feels good.

But you're doing something good for your body.

Are you

really going to make a smoker or are you going to buy a smoker?

I'd like

to make it because I did find my

welder.

If you, I might buy one from you because I

might.

Okay.

Think about it.

Got another tax.

Look up the three to one method to make great ribs.

That's

from Alex.

Three to one method.

Yep.

Okay.

All right.

I will look at that and look at that right

now.

Thank you, Alex.

We're going to set a quick break.

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It is perfect weather out there right now.

A little bit cool this morning, but it's going to be so nice.

It is.

This is the July is going to be a phenomenal month.

And of course, we get the fourth of July coming up and we've been talking all morning.

This was almost like a cooking show all morning.

We've had here today and we want to talk to somebody who's an expert on the ultimate fourth of July and summer menu.

Shaughnessy Ireland.

Good morning, Shaughnessy.

Good morning.

How are you today?

Phenomenal.

Hungry.

Yes, because we've already been talking about this stuff.

I got to tell you something just going through all your background and all the different things you like to talk about.

You had me.

Hang on here because I could live on Shikudori boards, but the barbecue Shikudori board is over

and above

I just think it's the easiest way to do things, especially if you have everything lined up, even for hot dogs and hamburgers as a DIY.

That way people can just kind of go down the line, prepare how they want it.

They want chili on it, if they want cheese on it, if they want onions, you know, that way it doesn't have the host making all these things and preparing it.

So kind of having the board, I know that it sounds, you know, cliche and there's so many charcuterie boards for everything, but it just makes sense.

I

agree, I

love them.

And it's nice to entertain and not have to work.

Have it all set up ahead of time so you can enjoy the party.

I mean, that's the goal, right?

Right.

I love, I love the, you know, prepping ahead of time.

Now is the time to check the grill, make sure it works, make sure you have everything you need.

You can go ahead and start preparing some of those side dishes even, you know, the macaroni and cheese casserole.

You can go ahead and freeze that.

You can, anything that you can

prepare ahead of time.

Even the dips, some of the dips you can make way ahead of time.

Go ahead and prepare that now.

That way you're not super stressed the day out.

Of course, the night before we want to make sure that we're marinating everything, having our meat ready to go, and that way nobody is running out to the store last minute.

And also guys, don't be afraid to ask your guests to bring something.

They can bring a side dish.

They can bring a bag of chips.

They can bring a six pack, whatever it may be.

Invite people to

experience the party with you as the host and bring something.

And this also helps out if people have dietary needs or if they have allergies, they could bring something that they know that they can eat on the 4th of July.

So we kind of, in this neck of the woods, have the hot dogs and brats down.

Tell me about the ribs.

What would you, if you want to serve ribs, you know, sometimes it takes a long time and sometimes, you know, tell me how you would

Prepare and serve ribs if you're having a picnic barbecue at one o'clock in the afternoon.

Yeah, so I think you know pre-cut the ribs definitely before serving to just kind of make sure that everything is put together really well.

You want to keep them warm, but you of course don't want to dry them out.

So you can actually put a bit of warm barbecue sauce and a splash of apple juice to keep them really moist.

Cover them with foil.

Make sure that they are in a warm oven or on the cool side of the grill.

You do not want to keep cooking these things, so that way everything's ready to go.

And then of course,

you know, make sense, serve them with wet wipes because they're going to get dirty.

People are going to get dirty.

And, you know, it's always just best taste not to wear white to barbecue anyway.

Go ahead, Todd.

Todd was going to jump in on something right here.

I was just

going

to say, Sean, honestly, Jim would never have wet wipes because they're disposable.

The man loves linens, so he would have special linens.

Would you discourage linens at a rib

party?

I mean, you guys said the Bump the Stratutory board was extra.

A linens?

Yeah.

I know it's not the best for the environment this year.

It's once a year, right?

Well, yeah, okay.

Well, we'll see.

But when would you cook the ribs though?

When would you cook them?

You would cook them the day before, would you?

When would you?

No, no, no.

She's

just warning up the morning.

You're just gonna want to slow slow cook them You know, you don't want to rush anything slow is is the name of the game with barbecue Absolutely, but the day of for sure.

I think that if you do have ahead of time, they're just gonna be nasty

Can you

do

it in a gas grill or does it have to be charcoal or wood?

You know, this is an often very heated debate.

I think that charcoal and wood just tastes better I think most people would agree with that

If you don't have the option to have that, you can even put wood chips in foil and put them on your grill.

That kind of gives it a little bit of that smoky taste.

But I think that if you want to go with ultimate ribs, you got to have the charcoal or you got to have the wood chips for sure.

Or at a coffee can too, you can throw some wood chips in there.

Yeah.

That doesn't sound too... One of the things in the

information you sent along, Shanice, was some of the stores that you can find some of the products that you're talking about this morning.

And one of the, it was a dollar store, which by the way, John Minow, okay, loves the dollar stores.

Yes.

Jim Schmidt, not so much.

There's, you could actually get good stuff there,

right?

I love the Dollar Tree.

You guys, I buy so much stuff at Dollar Tree.

Thank you.

I have five kids.

So things get broken and destroyed very, very quickly in my house.

So the Dollar Tree is the way to go.

That's because they're from the

Dollar

Tree.

Quiet you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the product I think you're talking about is the Rayburn sandwiches.

They have these pulled pork sandwiches that you can find at the Dollar General.

And you can pop them in the microwave for 90 seconds.

You can pop them on the grill.

And they're just fresh and ready to go for your guests when they arrive for your party.

I

know exactly what you

were talking about.

He's drooling.

Yeah.

But how about Hi-V?

You have that listed too.

Yeah, you can also purchase them there as well.

I don't know if you admire.

Oh, yeah, we love them too.

Yeah.

OK, yeah.

You can also find Rayburns at Myer or you can just go to Rayburns.com.

to look at the different variety of the flavors they have, the Philly cheesesteak, the chicken sandwich, as I mentioned, the pulled pork sandwich, and then you can find out where they are locally there.

But you know, another thing, just going back to the ribs and cooking stuff like that, do people, when they go to something like that, like if it's all family, it's no big deal, you know, you get stuff all over your face and you're sweating and your food and whatever and everything.

But if you're at a little bit more of a formal type party, what would you suggest you kind of stay away from?

Because sometimes people want to be a little bit hoity-toity with what they serve, but

You know what I mean?

You don't want to be that guy with a big splotch on his shirt, which I've been at

times.

You

know what I'm saying?

I mean, I know exactly what you're saying.

I mean, I guess you would have to stay away from the wings and the ribs and anything that's really super juicy.

But I don't know.

Maybe you need to take a bib with you or have your linen napkins on your chest.

But I think that would

be... I think, you know, my father-in-law would slap a bib on.

We had some pretty...

I

was like, really?

But he did.

Hey, do you have to?

What are some of the things, Shonesty, right now that, you know, every year something might be a little bit trendy or something cool that if you wanted to like go, I don't want to say over the top, but you want to really impress some people at where it's like, oh, it wasn't just brats in the, you know, pasta salad.

It was, oh, what could somebody do without like breaking the bank, you know, going to these stores that you and I like to frequent and whatever.

What could you really impress people

with?

a dessert.

You know, you g a good dessert.

And you guys, it sounds but just having those slice blueberries and make the amer a sheet cake dessert w some vanilla pudding and a little at the bottom of it.

I actually for that over on my I'm even having the angel

the little toothpicks with anything red, white and think it really elevates t can really make a boring something super stiff.

So with the theme and the amer even have some books out th those are always a fan you don't have to get super

But at the same time, you can make everything look really nice.

Where can we find you?

I'm on Instagram.

It's just at Shanesty Ireland.

I also have a blog.

It's called She's Becoming Domestic.com, YouTube, TikTok, all the social media.

If you just Google my name, you can find me.

I

do think that American flag, and that's

kind of a little bit becoming, you know, the pumpkin pie of Thanksgiving.

I just think it's, but that's a little, that's kind of healthy because you do have the blueberries and you do have the strawberries.

What did you say about the cups for the kids?

What is that again?

So I just take little plastic cups and I put angel food cake in it with some cool with strawberries and blueberries Put one of those little American flag toothpicks on top and it's super festive and wonderful.

All right to

make it the red white and blue.

All right.

I

got it

I gotta go back to that one other thing though.

What would you not recommend people trying to serve especially if they haven't done it

before?

Lobster.

That's

pretty tricky.

Lobster is a good one.

Lobster is a good one.

I don't know if everyone's going to love lobster at the table.

It's a little tricky.

You don't want to be getting the live lobsters and trying to make them dail.

That could be really disastrous.

I think you just got to stick to the basis.

Brought hot dogs, burgers, ribs.

That's what people are going to expect and that's what they want.

That

would be weird to go to a Fourth of July party and see a lot of.

fish or lobster, people are like, okay, this is weird.

The only

thing I would think would be weirder than that, Jim, is going to a fourth of July party, let's say at your house, and the cake is a Panamanian flag.

We got a young guy here from Panama, wonderful gentleman.

I would have made a Panamanian flag.

I thought he was from Puerto Rico.

That was the difference.

It wasn't, I wouldn't have made.

If he would have come over, I was going to present him a Puerto Rican flag, which is an American, which they're from America.

So I'm glad he's not coming.

I know that would have been weird.

That would have been weird because they're not part of us.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

So thanks for bringing that up.

Yeah.

Throw that one out to

your people there, Shaughnessy.

Yeah.

Hey, this is a lot of fun.

I just have to ask you though, are you one of those people that, you know, then you have people expect you when you do have a backyard party or something, they expect you to have the coolest one in the block?

I mean, obviously, yeah.

I mean, the parties are seemed like they said I have five kids, so I have a built in circus in the backyard.

Lots of entertainment, lots of fun.

And yeah, it's a lot of fun.

I love to entertain.

I love having all the neighbors over.

Don't really love the cleanup.

would really like my husband to step up in that aspect, but that's okay.

We're learning.

Well, this has been fun, Shaughnessy.

Have you ever had any Wisconsin food?

Have you ever been up here for anything?

You know, I actually have not.

I need to make a trip, don't I?

Absolutely.

I will say about your Dollar General and Dollar Tree, those are good places to get like the balloons, the

decorations.

No, no, no, I'm talking about I know but I mean all those kind of little things that

you know, but the festive the things that you put on the table Yeah, you know, that's no question.

They don't

they don't have the cloth linens.

No, I don't know but

Jim's got several sets

Yeah, and I bought those candles the red white blue candles.

Yeah, that's what I mean

Yeah,

that's stuff.

Sorry, but anything why

not go there instead of paying twice as much as someplace else?

Firm believer in that and with five kids like you said Shaughnessy

I took my granddaughters one day.

I told them, I said, you can each have $10 to buy anything you want.

They were in heaven.

That was the greatest $10 you could

possibly ever

spend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, and let's be honest, guys, we're probably going to be throwing away all of that stuff after the fourth, after this weekend.

So it's best not to invest a ton of money in these decorations that are probably going to get ripped or stained with your barbecue sauce or whatever it could

be.

Right.

OK, one last time, tell us where everybody can find you.

You've got a phenomenal personality.

I'd love to watch some of your things.

Right.

Thank you.

I'm on Instagram.

It's just at Shanice the Ireland YouTube TikTok blog all of it.

So I think there's only one of me out there.

So if you Google me, you're bound to find me.

S-H-A-N-I-S-T-Y Ireland like the country.

Yes, that's it.

Outstanding.

You've been fun.

Thank you.

You bet.

It was fun.

Happy 4th of July.

Same deal.

Enjoy your linen.

And,

um, I

hope I make

it

back again

soon!

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Can I have you guys just look at the camera real quick in front of you and just see how you're sitting?

Well Jim you should be over that way a little bit you should both be

see how

the TV

screens right

behind you Yep, see how that works got it perfect.

Thanks guys.

All right back to Mino in

the mayor now.

You see him being a wedding photographer two years.

Got it.

Yeah Tori

He says, in order to get back into welding, don't you first have to be a welder?

All right, Tori.

OK.

Very much.

I think he's right.

I think he's onto something.

I think you're right, Jim.

Shonesty was great.

She was fun.

You know, what's nice about what she said is, don't make it too difficult.

Yeah.

Just.

Make it kind of simple and get the decorations and spend too much money.

Well, like your hot dog bar, right?

Was that difficult?

That was awesome.

No, that was... Okay, can I just...

No one says about their own party.

It was awesome.

You can't know what's being said.

You're right.

Their own parties.

Okay, let me...

Todd, am I right or am I wrong?

All I'm saying, John, it was... Well, Jim would know if it was good or bad, and I think he would be honest with us about

that.

First of all, okay, I don't want to say rave reviews.

What was nice about that party was I really got...

to spend time with the guests because it was all set up and all I did was kind of visit people because it was it was easy.

They just got the hot dogs, get the lungs.

They could beer and wine and there's an open bar.

They could mix whatever they want.

People didn't drink very much that night.

Yeah, I and that's what she's telling you.

Don't do all the work.

Don't wait on people.

Set it up.

She could reward whatever you want to do and let them.

And I think people are OK with picnics.

It's a little bit different, you know.

dinners, but I like that.

And I think she made some good points on a dollar tree and going there to get the decorations and some of the stuff.

Absolutely.

About the food.

But yeah, no, it's great.

I mean, we're going to have parties every night.

What are you doing for the fourth?

We're going to be up at Elkhart Lake.

Oh, that's right.

What's going to be fun about that is I have three adult children with husbands and every night

A different family is in charge of the meal.

That's cool.

And they actually volunteered.

It wasn't my idea.

Like I was trying to delegate.

They are really doing that.

And then, um, like the, like the snacks and stuff, that's me, but it's, it's healthy.

They're not going to, I don't want them to get mad at me.

So like I said, it's going to be, um, healthier things.

Good.

That's

great.

Sounds like a good time.

It's going to be great.

And we have.

Different rooms because there's too many of us for a large room.

So yeah, that sounds fantastic.

So that'd be fun And then the it's got the beach and rented a pontoon boat and some other stuff Perfect.

Yeah, it's gonna be fun and we don't get together as often as I'd like so That's gonna be great.

How about

you?

What do you not sure yet?

Not sure yet might be a game time decision

Put your kids are in Madison, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah far away.

Yeah Um, Todd, how about you?

What do you like your family take ours was that we always had the same?

thing every single 4th of July for my entire lifetime would go to my Uncle Bill and Auntie Mary's camp that was on Little Shag Lake outside of Gwyn and everybody would be there and everybody would play horseshoes and

you have

firecrackers and it was always just everybody get together like that and then there'd be some boat rides and things at night bottle rockets and I mean

Just fun family type thing.

I think all the summer events at my, for my family were pretty much the same.

Yeah.

You know, you'd grill out, maybe it would be brats, maybe be chicken or something like that.

Everybody would have a salad or whatever.

So it was pretty standard.

This year I'm going to, um, Oshkosh Menominee Park for the fireworks on Friday.

Cool.

Enjoying that.

A little bit of food truck action down

there.

Very nice.

Very nice.

How's your food truck buddy doing?

Good.

He's going to be Reggie.

Yep.

Reggie's doing well.

Excellent.

Yep.

Excellent big fan of his trying to absolutely actually where's he from?

He's from Haiti.

Hey, could you have him make a flag for Jim's?

Yeah, but I just you know what it's one of those things that you when you look back, you know, it seems like nowadays there's

a lot more holidays and a lot more get-togethers and a lot more whatever.

But back then, that was like your one big day of the summer.

Wasn't it?

I mean, there

weren't festivals at every little town, every weekend, everything here, everything there.

That was your one shot.

And then did you drink red, white, and blue beer?

My dad used to buy that sometimes.

For that

day, right?

Well, I probably, no, I was cheap.

My dad

bought it because it was cheap.

It was that papst, old style, or Blatz.

Well, we only had

that

on the fourth.

Really?

Yeah.

But we didn't have that Michigan, I don't think.

Cause like I said, we used to come down to shop co liquor and that's where we'd get those

beers.

But yeah, that was red, white and blue beer apps.

I still remember the cans, the whole thing.

Yeah.

I still say Blats is the worst beer I've ever tasted.

No, um, it's not good.

Worst ever.

I've got a picture of him.

I was just a baby.

He's holding me and he's giving me some schlitz.

Yeah, that

was up

there

too.

That

was

big.

That was popular.

But Pam's was my dad's go-to.

Pam's.

But the other thing I'm doing, because my three daughters and their husbands, I'm picking up my mom and bringing her there for a day.

Nice.

Because it's too crazy.

to go to her place because she's bring everybody and other people are there.

And so

we're doing that.

She's going to go and I'm going to take her out in the pontoon.

But we just visit and that'd be good.

But that is a fun day because the weather's good.

It's chill and there's no gifts.

You know what I mean?

It's like a little bit of a Thanksgiving.

Absolutely.

I think that sounds great.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

So somebody let us know three Texas people.

What are you like a family tradition?

that you guys always did that maybe you can't do anymore, that

you don't do anymore.

This is kind of getting up as one of the favorites, because like I said, there's not a lot of pressure, right?

Right.

They put on the fireworks.

The fireworks are done by the community, so you don't have to really do that.

You eat, and like I said, I'd like the fact that there's not this pressure of gifts, and you kind of don't have to go to church.

I agree.

Wow.

No, not bad.

Some people I

know I agree.

I agree.

I

agree.

You know what?

I'm not as big of a church goer as I used to be Simply because I

Had to go so much back when I was an altar boy and that just feel like I've got a grace period.

Yeah,

you know what I mean

for the rest of your life

Well, yeah, because if everybody out if other people go like one day a week, okay,

you're there

and I was there like three months every day I got like years

you do have a

built-up.

Yep.

Mm-hmm.

Okay, so I'm gonna I didn't realize you could stockpile I have to read up on that.

I'm not sure that's in the Bible in the

Old Testament Look it up

It was carved in stone.

It wouldn't be in the old.

They found it!

An archaeologist found it in, like,

some place.

The third tablet.

He

just read

some place.

He found it.

Didn't that guy drop?

Yes.

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Just a little background.

We had you in the studio in Oshkosh a month or so ago, and we were so impressed.

Jim and I were both talking about this.

We were so impressed with people like yourself and others do.

And again, I came from my mother because a serious stroke was disabled for

No, man, 42 years of her life.

Um, I've dealt with so many, you know, wounded people and, and different types of things and amputees and that, and there's a special brand of people that say, I'm going to wake up every single morning and I give these people a bit of a lift and to help them out in certain ways.

And you've devoted your life to that.

So Jim and I were talking during the break and how much we admire you and what you do.

Well, thank you so much.

And I'm so excited to be back.

Oh, it's great to have you back.

That is, um, well, it's

Kind to do that is tough work.

I you know, really just to cut to the chase.

It's just It's a special type of really it just does it's not come

from the heart.

It's just not a here's my you know my thing and boom

So tell us why you're doing this and just the special person that takes

That's a great question.

Why am I doing this?

I fell into it.

I think I shared that the last

And I just love looking at all the possibilities of what everyone is able to do and able to contribute.

And I believe everyone wants to live a life of purpose.

And it is so rewarding and it fills your heart so much when you see clients or students or your children or your parent be able to do something that they haven't been able to do and to fulfill a purpose.

They feel so excited about themselves and knowing that you've helped and you've supported them along that journey also fills your heart because you feel that excitement as well.

I'm just going to recap or restart who you are here.

Founder Marla Capecchi-Penny has spent the last 20 years working with children and adults with disabilities as an in-

in-home therapist, respite care provider, special education teacher, evaluator, and so much more.

Marlon, her Empower Freedom team are focusing on helping folks of all abilities reach their goals through proven resources, guides, checklists, and more.

And to see that advancement, maybe something that we may not notice, but you being that close to it, maybe a small thing, but something that would be

huge to them.

And that's I should have read that part too.

Yeah, you're empowering individuals with disabilities, families and caretakers to live more independent lives and have more freedom to dream again and do what they love to do.

Yeah, it's the first time I remember feeling that moment was I had been working with a client and he had sensory issues was my first client and had significant needs and sensory issues were

or one of them touching different textures, being willing to do that.

And we worked for months on different activities.

And at that time, you know, 20 plus years ago, 25, actually, when I sit down and think about it.

And all I did was one step at a time, just like, you know, get your hand closer to the bowl to touch the shaving cream, because we were working on the shaving cream texture.

And

when he finally touched the shaving cream and then he started playing in the shaving cream.

Like it was such a rewarding experience.

That was the first moment I felt it and I felt it so many times since just that feeling of their excitement when they do it, their pride when they do it, when they achieve it.

I just had one of my lean trainers send me a picture of a client of mine who's just learned to tie a shoe.

You know, it's things we take for granted so often times because so many people just can do those things and can experience those things that when you take the moment to appreciate every little small step, that's where it really lies.

I could

not agree

more with you because I've lived through that too and I know exactly what you're mean.

And we have to give communities credit for advancing

I think disabilities, we sometimes think about, you know, the wheelchairs walking, but that sensory, even here in Green Bay, and I'm sure Oshkosh Appleton has addressed this as well, but, you know, we all worked the booth, the civic media booth at the county fair, and they did a lot more with sensory issues a couple years ago.

And we have Bay Beach is one of our amusement parks here in Green Bay, and they put it in like a sensory...

smaller area.

And I think that's just great that people are realizing that it is a disability like you talked about the kid with the shaving cream.

I mean, those are just things that people need to feel the touch.

And yeah.

So when you guys are always looking for new employees, aren't you?

We are always looking for new employees.

I actually just had one of my employees because we're starting to work on our file schedule.

And she messaged me last night.

She goes, hey, here's what I'm looking at for fall.

And one of my friends is going to apply.

And she's doing this currently and all excited.

And I said, that's great.

We always have a wait list.

And she goes, wait, a wait list for employees?

I go, no, no, no.

I go, we have a wait list for clients.

Who need an employees.

Exactly.

Tell everybody the type of person it takes.

Again, it's not just punch a time clock type of job.

Not at all.

So as far as employees, it's really, my leads and my trainers can teach you how to do the job.

You have to have passion.

You have to want to be there.

You have to engage and just have that heart.

It's just, it's the person that when you walk into the room, you feel loved, right?

Like you feel good being in their presence.

Those are who we're looking for.

person where you, they make you laugh.

It's really looking at that personality because we can teach you how to do the work.

The impact that person can have on somebody's life is immeasurable and they might not really realize it.

Wouldn't you agree?

Oh, 100%.

And it's not just on the individual, it's on the family, you know, and we're really starting to branch out into

that as well because as we've just alluded to the wait list, that's everywhere.

Everyone's on wait lists.

So we're not only now branching out into supporting the clients, which we've done for six years with Focus on Freedom.

We're now building out and supporting the caregivers, offering different seminars, offering different coaching and person classes to help empower them as well along in the journey.

So if you're ready and when you're ready,

We're here wherever you're at in that journey to take that nugget and apply it is really, really what we do.

So we've started to look at it as a whole family approach because we all impact each other.

So tell me the, the client, how they get connected with and power freedom.

And I know you have a waiting list, but still I want listeners to know how to

get on

the list.

So Focus on Freedom is the company that has the waitlist.

So in Power of Freedom, I have two sister companies.

So we'll...

We'll clarify that.

So Empower Freedom is a subscription-based model that you can access anywhere.

So all those people who are on waitlist, they can check out empower-readom.org and they can go on and I have all the blogs that I've created, which are quick how-to reads, one to three minutes.

So you're not having to spend a ton of time or I have now videos that I'm uploading to give you nuggets of information.

Then I have third-party resources to help you implement the strategy, as well as whatever visual supports.

So I'm not sure if you're familiar with a visual schedule, but think of it as a to-do list, a checklist.

Those types of tools are extremely beneficial when we are talking about children and adults with diverse abilities.

It helps them to structure up what we call executive functioning.

I don't know if you've ever heard of that term before, but it's really being able to organize and put things in order and break them down.

That's really where those pieces and parts come into play.

So in that subscription-based model, they can go in.

Become a member you can pay monthly or yearly and all the tools are there So you don't have to spend the hours the months Researching and trying to figure out how to implement reading these big long books reading all these different resource It's there for you because people don't have the time so that's empower freedom and then focus on freedom is the one I started six years ago that is Based within the counties that I serve

And so the reason that Empower Freedom started was because I was getting calls from all over.

So Madison, Racine, North Carolina, Canada, I mean, all over for help because they found me online.

And I said, I need to start helping these people too.

If they don't have support there, how can we get it to them?

So if they're willing to do it and read it and work through implementing it and connect with me,

that resource is there for them.

And then it focused on freedom is the company that really works here in northeast Wisconsin in the Winnebago, Audigamey, um, finally like counties and, and slightly beyond, we're starting to, to branch out a little bit, um, where we're really working with the clients in the home and doing those wraparound coaching one-to-one in-person classes.

So those are the the two different companies.

Are you to get funding from the state?

Are you funded through school system?

Okay, good.

So focus on freedom is is purely funded through what we call the CLTS waiver program.

I'm not sure.

Are you familiar at all with the CLTS waiver

program?

But I you don't have to get into that.

I just I'm just I'm glad to hear that because, you know, there's

But that would be the avenue with which we're funded.

There's a TV station up in the UP that I somehow get on Spectrum Cable here.

And I swear half their newscasts are sponsored by one of the groups up there looking for people, exactly the type of people that you find and train and employ and everything.

But the lady talked, I saw one of the specialists says, you have no idea how many services we've had to cut back.

that would be helping these people.

We just can't do it.

We don't have, I mean, it's breaking their hearts that they don't have people to help out.

That's really why I started diving into the caregiver piece.

I really started diving in about a little over two years ago, I think, where I started my foundations and caregiving course, which is an on-demand course for parents and caregivers.

It's kind of like a one-on-one style of course.

And then this past year actually I've launched two programs within the last three months that have kind of started taking off and it's all about helping parents and caregivers.

right one to one.

So my personalized family support plan, we create a personalized plan where we're working with them.

If you know anything about special education and school districts, it's called the individual education plan and IEP.

We walk through that, we walk through 504s, all of those tools, but we also do and show them how to implement strategies in the home.

So then I'm in working with them.

So for example, the client I'm working with right now, we're working on it.

We did their IEP.

first and now we're working on an emotional regulation strategy in the home using visuals to help them implement and calm during those frustrations.

Marla Kopecki, Penny, phenomenal and power freedom.

Tell everybody a one stop shop where they can find you and get any information they need.

So for focus on freedom, it's at focusonfreedom.org.

So that's if you're Winnebago, Audigamey, Fond de la Counties, check us out there.

And for our subscription, it's at empower-freedom.org.

Thanks for what you do.

I mean, you really, you truly help make people's lives better who wouldn't have that if it wasn't for people like you and all the people that you employ and take care of these people.

So seriously, from my heart, thank you for what you do.

Thank you.

You bet.

We gotta set our quick break.

Sean in the house, Sean cats back in the house.

Did he perhaps didn't see a little box of treats?

What's up with that?

Thank you for doing that Sean.

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festival coming up had a nice drive down didn't have a chance of course to get you know those little kind of those fruity little things you brought over so delicious those raspberry ones are unbelievable.

Did you have the raspberry?

I did.

Raspberry is my favorite of all the different

fruits.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

Good stuff.

Well like I said I was going to buy you breakfast sandwiches too.

Right.

You pulled off the oldest minor line in

history.

I forgot about it.

Yeah.

Yeah, I didn't forget it.

I realized where it was.

I was like, I traveled all the way from Marinette without my wallet.

You're doing all right gas mileage to get back home?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, could you give me a 20?

Yeah, like I got a 20 in my pocket.

Um, what we got here, Blats was great.

No one wanted to drink our beer in college when we had it.

Shunt,

Brian.

We were talking about back in the day

with the family.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

your dad threw a barbecue or whatever you did.

Do you remember the kind of beer that you had?

We had Stroze.

I forgot about Stroze.

Huge Michigan beer.

Yeah,

and being a good Chicagoan old style.

Old style.

Yeah, old style was.

Was there a kind of a, did it kind of go?

by nationalities.

I think so.

I think so too.

Yeah, I do.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

I mean, you know, growing up, that was my grandfather's beer.

He was German.

That's

what I was going to say.

That seems like a real

German beer.

Yeah.

But the 4th of July was not a hard liquor day.

No, it was beer.

It was beer.

It was beer.

Yeah, totally.

Because my dad...

Didn't drink beer, but I think he did on that day,

you know, it's interesting my wife and I were talking about this out

back in the

day that yeah that you know the amount of hard liquor that our parents drink though I mean it was it was I've got these beautiful Tom Collins glasses that hardly ever come out that were my grandfather's that you know I mean because everything was a mixed drink,

you know, and I like when they travel and they had those little

My

dad would carry a flask to every game, every packer game, every high school football game.

They would always carry a

flask.

You

know what I'm talking about?

Those little things, yeah.

You had the jiggers and just to make the stuff.

Yeah, I had one.

Once again, for my grandfather.

I'd like to find that.

Both my grandfathers were German, but my mom's father was on the, well, I mean, he just, I mean, he had his own bar set up.

I mean, it was the coolest thing.

But I mean, at Packer

Games, when the Packers of Skr touched on him, he

passed it around.

He would take out the flask and have a shot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You don't see that anymore.

But, you know, they don't, I come to think of that.

They didn't really have a lot of diversity in their drinks.

I mean, it was pretty much Manhattan's and Martini's at our house.

I didn't know how to make those when I was a little kid, and I mean a little kid.

No, I'm only laughing because I would often joke around that my grandfather would yell out to my uncle.

My uncle actually worked for a distributor, so he'd get all these different types of liquors all the time.

They'd just yell, Bob!

Fixed me a highball.

So

in our house, it was a

highball.

I mean, it just was what it was.

But yeah, I mean, you knew how to make them there.

Yeah.

And you knew how to drink

them at a

fairly age.

Yeah.

Todd, I imagine you did too.

Dad was always brandy old fashioned.

So here's, and I got to tell this story, because my dad worked for the railroad for 35 years, never, ever missed a day of work.

Wow.

OK,

except once.

OK.

It was his birthday.

the night before and he had a few too many brandy old fashions.

So I was getting up and get ready for work and I realized I didn't have any work socks.

So I thought, well, I'll just borrow a pair of dads, right?

So I walked in and my dad's laying in the bed.

And I'm like, oh my God, he's dead because my

dad was

never in bed

at seven o'clock in the morning.

Just hung over never had a brandy old-fashioned again.

Okay, that yeah until I moved to Wisconsin I had never heard or I didn't know what an old-fashioned or a Manhattan were I those are not other parts of the state or other parts of the country I should say I didn't know what either one of those were Manhattan's aren't everywhere

I had never seen

one before.

Really?

Oh.

I mean, maybe they are.

I mean, Brandy, old fashions, I know are kind of us.

Yeah, and I

never knew what an old fashion was.

I didn't know what a

Manhattan was.

Okay.

But I never, I never, like, heard anybody getting one.

You

know what I

mean?

But an old fashion, yeah.

Never until I got here, then I tried

it.

And

then, it's like, I didn't...

But for those martinis in Indiana, if you put in too much of that...

Driver moves.

It's like a dad.

Why even buy this stuff?

You know, you put it on like a hat.

What is that for?

What is for booth for?

Well in the Manhattan, it's sweet for mousse, right?

And so it's just a little bit or

I

don't get for mousse.

Well, there's driver moves and sweet for mousse, right?

Once are they

out.

Do they have alcohol?

Yeah, a little bit.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, they do have a little bit.

But you know, I think sometimes I think if I forget, he wouldn't even know.

But, you know, but it's just a

little sometimes you just just splash.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just never knew exactly what the purpose

was.

Oh, the only thing he would change up once in a while was the garnishment on mushrooms or something.

But

I'll tell you, first time I had a thing with pickled

mushrooms.

Right.

It's like, whoa.

Or even the pickled

green beans and stuff.

That's great.

That's what I'm saying.

That was always.

Kind of the fun part of it, you know.

Yeah, I've never put any vegetables in my tree.

No, not

like the Brussels.

No, nothing.

Yeah.

All right.

Oh, well, I think I will put a lime or lemon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I'd never known the arts of Bloody Mary's that people do around here.

Oh, that's good.

Over the top.

Yeah, I mean, you got burgers in there.

Right.

I mean,

it was brought

worse than that.

Right.

Chicken.

Yeah.

I mean, the only thing you really... Chicken thigh.

Right.

I mean, it's nice when you put it in the hot stick.

You'll have the sausage stick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like those.

But, I mean, now it's like, it's a dinner.

Oh, it's a, yeah.

I mean, they're like 18, 20 bucks.

Oh, yeah.

It's unbelievable.

It's unbelievable.

Yeah.

It's like a buffet in

there.

But it's amazing how if you just have one Bloody Mary type thing and you just have that one real good pickled piece of garnish, how much that

Oh, yeah, the Bloody Mary mixers is the bomb.

That's what makes I'm in there and there's some really good places, but all

right You got to go.

I do Sean Sean we're gonna talk about your great logging and heritage festival That's coming up.

You guys do it right up there.

Every festival is great.

This is gonna be a fun one to look in for bring the kids and

re talking

Alcohol.

A35 with a cross-distribute.

Back after

this.

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Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your hosts John Mino

and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back our number three Mino the Mayor Jim going off to teach his class at NWTC.

Take a look at some of the text we got here.

This is from Vinnie says, Mino sweats just eating popcorn.

I was talking earlier.

I had a situation a couple weeks ago.

I went to a ribs fest and I had three platters of ribs.

Oh my.

And

it was super hot.

And

it was just.

Sweat like you can't

believe I don't

I don't think I was a pretty sight Michael says John they're good for you beats aren't good for you, but moderation is the word for the day moderation is my nose worth worth the day and Snarky Brian says we're tackled family traditions on the fourth Jason Pierre Paul's family tradition the fourth was visiting the ER to find his fingers That's wrong with you Brian

That

was the I mean, how do you pull your hand off and you're the and you're like

starting defense

event for the New York Giants?

Yeah, but you when you saw that might.

Oh, yeah, you laughed really hard.

So hard.

Yeah.

I laughed so hard.

Oh, yes, indeed.

That was a story.

That was a story.

So

Sean, how you doing, buddy?

Doing really

good.

I was good to

have you here.

Boy, you I'll tell you what.

You have a lot of events.

I give you credit.

I mean, you wouldn't think of Marinette being the hub of all these different festivals and great events.

But you are.

You guys have turned that into a destination in the summer with all of your different events you got going on.

Tell me about your latest.

Our latest, which we've

done for 13 years.

Kind of started out hyper localized logging in Heritage Festival,

and that is the heritage of exactly.

Yeah, so so basically speaking back 13 years ago what the idea was is that Menominee was doing

just a fantastic job of Fourth of July.

So we wanted to kind of etch something a little bit different and do something.

Your own identity, so to speak.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we went with the logging and heritage festival and basically what we started doing and what we've continued to do is we focus on our logging heritage.

So we have logging exhibitions, we've got people doing sawing and log rolling, things like that.

And then

but we've continually every year added a little bit more.

So we've got BMX stunt bikes in the parking lot.

And these guys, I mean- They're amazing.

They're probably 30 feet in the air.

They're amazing.

Letting their bike go.

I know.

And catching it.

You know, I mean, if you've ever watched the X Games, that's what these people are.

And then, you know, we've got live music.

And the one thing that the committee, when they started, my understanding is, because now I've been a part of it for four years, but prior to that, this was their focus, is that this was going to be a festival that wasn't going to

be expensive, that we were going to keep it as

inexpensive as possible.

So all the kids stuff is free.

Awesome.

Um, so, you know, like we've got, we've got a ton of jumpers.

Um, you know, the big jumper slide, all that stuff.

Um, we've also got, uh, the bungee jumpers where the kids can jump up and down and do flips.

We've got a rock wall that's client that, that climbs.

Did you try it

out?

Um, yeah.

No, you got me too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Me and you.

Whoever gets to five feet first wins.

Yeah, I don't think that would be a pretty sight.

I don't think so either.

You want to talk about flooding.

Yeah.

And then from there, we went.

So we've got that.

We've got food trucks.

But all the kid stuff, face painting, balloons, sawdust, dig, all of those fun things are absolutely free for your kids.

I give you guys credit, man.

You want to make sure you get hit every level.

Exactly.

And then, like I said, live music.

We've got Neon Detour is going to be playing.

And then Oz, the group, or Oz...

I can't remember the name of it, but they're an iron mountain cover band.

Oh rock and roll band the Oz the band Okay, Oz the band and and so they'll be ending the night and then we have a fireworks display

fantastic

Yeah, and

when it's all taking place here.

It's July 12th and 13th So we always go a week after right the fourth so it'll be what in a week and a half

There's not

a

lot going on the week after the fourth.

You guys got a good spot there

That's why we chose that was because we really and once again we wanted

to be respectful to other areas doing their thing and saying, OK, well, we don't want to take away from your stuff.

So yeah, it just works out well that it's that week after.

Now, when you guys put together these events, John, and it's all winter type, I mean, people don't realize you're starting probably next year now.

And there

is

so much more pressure and pressure.

obstacles in putting these things together behind the scenes, that people would have any idea.

Isn't

there?

Absolutely.

And then on top of it, you know, I mean, I've been in this position for four years, so I'm learning the nuance and the rhythms.

But, you know, early on, I had no idea.

So, you know, I'm kind of just cutting my teeth, kind of going through this stuff.

Luckily, we've had some great leadership that has continued to

helping to do those things.

But yeah, early on, you know, and that's the whole thing is that these guys, they're talking.

Like you said, I mean, we'll be taught, we'll be, we'll have a meeting.

Our first meeting is always like in November for the following July.

Exactly.

Right.

Exactly.

You know, just to kind of like say, okay, well, where are we?

I mean,

there's, people don't realize how much pressure there's involved in putting these things together.

Oh, there, and that's the other part.

I mean, you know, you have, you have a mayor and a city council who, you just always want to do right by them.

I mean, you know, I mean, nobody says I want to do a bad job.

You know, so, so yeah, you want to put these things together.

You want to put them together in a.

way that really plays towards the customer, to the, to the, it appeals to the people coming to the

event.

People don't want, it's, I hate to say it, but back in my day, it was almost, everything was more of a beer fest.

Yeah.

You know, all the church picnics, people just go there and drink, just drink and drink and drink.

Right.

It's not that way anymore.

It totally isn't that way.

And you know, I think to some degree that's a great

great part of it is that, yeah, there's a little bit more responsibility involved and you want to say, hey, we want to have fun.

We do have, you know, we do have beer tents and we do have things like that.

But exactly.

I mean, Menominee for years used to have a waterfront festival that was out of this world.

It was phenomenal.

But because the beer tent was kind of like you said, the place to go.

And I mean, if you've ever been downtown Menominee on First Street, it's not appealing when you go to a beautiful

in the front, you know what I mean?

And that's what these business owners- That's what it became, and that's what

some of those places became.

Exactly.

I know, I mean I-

I mean, you hate to say it, but even church picnics and all things there were issues at times.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fireman's picket years ago.

Remember that one incident and like, what was it?

Greenfield?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, it was but that was almost the theme.

It's like, let's go there to get drunk.

Yeah.

Type of atmosphere.

Exactly.

It

wasn't family friendly.

No.

And now

everything is.

So

I'm glad that's changed.

Yeah.

And that's kind of what I know our committee's focus is on is making that

change.

So now, you know, we have all those things we've added.

One of those, I think they're called henna or henna.

It's doing the little dots on your hand and stuff.

It's more like a native tribal look to it.

Okay.

Almost looks like a tattoo, but it's not.

Todd, I don't know.

Have you ever heard of them?

It's like henna or

henna?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's painting on the

hands and stuff like that.

Yeah.

And so we've added that this year.

So we always try to find something that might be a little bit different than what the normal event.

And I will say this, though, too, in regards to those things.

And I've had a lot of bar owners joke around, but I went on a bar and everything.

And people are like,

you have no idea the things that come or the responsibility aspect of the knuckleheads how they can ruin an event.

And you know what I mean?

You know the type.

I'm sure you've had them just like everybody else has, right?

And you want to just kind of laugh.

I mean, you know, I literally one time had a guy at a glam band concert in Marinette.

OK.

And so for some reason, and they had asked somebody to stand in the back to

keep people off the speakers

and everything.

Hey man, can you not sit on their speakers?

They're expensive, right?

Exactly.

He looks at me and he gets off it and he's just giving me this eye and takes off his shirt.

And I'm like, okay, what does that

mean?

Is he throwing

down by taking his shirt off?

Mino, would you throw down with Sean?

I don't

think I'd go against

that, would you?

I would

run.

I

just was like, OK.

And I said, listen, you know, I just want you to understand that I work for the city and we got police all around here.

I ain't doing anything.

But all I have to do is make one

phone call.

Yeah.

But why is that you always because even Dennis has told me we could talk with this with Dennis when he comes on this week.

He's told me that he's had to kick guys in the face because guys were reaching up at some of the people and he's had to kick

them in the face.

I don't know.

I mean, it's a shame that there's some people that they take that fun to another level and they then feel like they've been challenged.

And you're like, listen, I'm not trying to challenge you.

Have a great time.

I want you to have fun.

I just want everything to be safe.

Because like you said, the responsibility behind it, it's never the person.

It's just like in sports, right?

It's not the guy who took through the first punch.

It's the second guy.

It's the second guy.

It's the guy who catches it.

And that's what they don't understand is that, no, we don't think you're going to get hurt.

We're worried about this personal.

over here, who's going to get hurt?

Where

do you get your security from?

The Marinette Police Department.

Oh, they handle everything?

Yeah, they handle everything.

So they'll just, we'll just have them parading around the area and making sure that they just kind of keep an eye on stuff.

Well, that's

cool.

Yeah.

That's a good way to

do

it then.

Because, you know, sometimes some of these private security things you can get some hotheads, too.

And that's what I was saying.

Because I've seen that.

Yes, absolutely.

And that's why I will say that both our captain and our chief of police, these guys are really good guys.

I mean, neither one I'd want to hustle with, but especially the chief, he's like, his son is a power lifter.

I mean, his son's like 16.

But, you know, but yeah, and they

firmly talk with their officers.

I don't mean firmly, but I mean, they just give great direction.

They give great direction.

That's awesome.

Yeah,

that's

very cool.

Yeah,

well

good.

Okay, we're gonna keep you hanging around.

Is that okay?

Yeah, I

like more about that.

Actually, we'll keep you around when Dana's here if you want.

She's a Northeast brand ambassador for the cross distilling stubborn brothers brewery.

They turn out some amazing product that they have right next door here at the market.

Oh, she's great.

She's great.

Fun friend of ours.

Great friend of the program.

So we're really happy to have her in.

So we'll be doing that.

We'll talk some more about all your great things going on and marinate with

the

heritage fast and everything.

And we're gonna send it to a quick

break.

Oh, you got two minutes.

Oh, I

I was giving you to read

that I was I thought you're dark back there is hard to see you

today Todd you're dark No, you're in a dark place aren't you?

So I

have to ask it.

Did you replace it thinking that me and my granddaughters may have broken?

No,

no, no, what

did you break?

Well, we want to take a picture on the

log on the horses

Did he break something?

Well,

they're plastic and it kind of came off the mount when I we climbed up You know because once again, we got to climb up Well, she wanted a picture and grandpa was gonna show

that he's still

athletic climbing up with her that he could handle that You should put a sign up there or something

Sean.

Yeah ironically Sean went on another radio show and said let me tell you about this guy

So I just, I just didn't, I'm just trying to help.

Stay off the animals.

Stay off the animals.

Stay off the

animals.

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about to go teach his class, but you know what, we're capably filled with the energy and always entertaining Sean Katzbeck, director of tourism, city of Marinette, logging and heritage festival coming up.

Yeah, we're going to have a great festival.

On Saturday, we also have a 5k run walk.

Oh.

and we have people dressed up as loggers, which is cool.

Yeah, we give away prizes for the best dress.

Hey, I gotta tell you, you want to talk about it.

You know, I come from an area where it was underground iron ore mining.

Yeah, yeah.

Just

tough job and everything.

Absolutely.

But then in the other areas around the UP in northeast Wisconsin, those loggers, I was talking to somebody who, when he was a kid, like worked in the logging camps in the summer.

He'd wash their clothes and do it.

He said you want to talk about a tough breed of individuals?

I've got a friend who is He's got to be at least second, but maybe third generation.

Okay.

Okay

I've never saw a guy work this hard in my entire life.

I would never in my life work that hard, John.

I just, I can't even imagine it.

And he does it seven days a week.

He actually won a bid for the city that was like 50 trees that he had to cut down because they had that, they had the ash.

Yeah,

ash borer.

So on one street, he had to cut them down and he had three days.

Wow.

And he's like, yeah, I can do it.

Yeah.

I'm like, dude, are you crazy?

It's just in the genes or something after a while.

But what a tough

life that was for those guys.

Oh, my goodness.

And you think about back when, at least, now there's, the technology really hasn't changed, changed, because it's chainsaws.

And it's always been chainsaws.

But back in the day, you know, it was, it, it, it, it, you were.

Okay,

so there's a weird thing happening.

You know, I old royal is that island off the UP between Canada and the UP so to speak and

They had a terrible thing happen there last month.

Todd, have you been following that with the, they think it was a murder suicide?

A little bit.

Yep.

Yeah.

The guy, two of the park rangers had to hike 11 miles overnight to get to this campsite.

That's how remote it was.

Wow.

And they found what they're, and the FBI is involved.

It's been unbelievably quiet where they won't come out with any information, but they believe it was a father son, a murder suicide.

Oh wow.

Okay.

But, and it's like, oh my God, at this most, you know, gorgeous place and, you know.

But then, the Detroit Free Press, I think it was, did a story on the history of that island.

Yeah.

And it talked about when they still find graves, okay, from like these loggers who were worked there, and they would just die.

And they just bury them and put up like a little wooden thing

or maybe a stone

and they would move on because there was no way to get them off the island in time for any medical help.

So

they were, they'd pop up, they still find these graves on the island because these loggers that probably came from Sweden or

Finland or someplace

like that.

And then they would just die and that's it.

That

was their

life.

So what

you guys are celebrating is a really cool aspect of Northeast Wisconsin.

Well, it really is because another part of it that I think people tend to forget just because of how technology has moved so fast is

100 years ago, 150 years ago, which isn't crazy long ago, that was the staple of how we built buildings, how we did things.

We really were not a steal until the 1900s is when that started to move over, but in the 1800s.

And so when you think of our area, think of how strategically placed, Marinette,

Green Bay, all that, you can ride down the bay, you can then go out to Lake Michigan, you can go down to Chicago, and from Chicago, you can go to anywhere in the world.

And down in Oshkosh, of course, all the wood down there, the doors that were created and all that, I mean, right off the Fox down Lake Winnebago.

Your mom worked for one of the

places.

She worked for Buckstaff for a long time.

I

didn't realize Oshkosh had been like...

It's kind of funny because like some of the white pine was taken from the UP Yep, and then floated down and everything and a whole bunch more from your area up there Then we go to Oshkosh then it would get milled and then it's so every place it seems like that's how they grew

But it's kind of ironic though.

It's like, okay.

So you got Oshkosh with all that.

And then it's also a beer capital of like North.

But you

know what

I mean?

It's German.

It's like German that came over to work

with the woods and do those things.

But it's so funny.

You wonder sometimes, you know, I love history.

Just love history.

Fascinated by how towns became who they are.

And it's funny how one thing got it started and that branched out to.

this and this and that and I love it when they and I like what you guys are doing in Manitowoc County their their areas do this too they really honor what made them

yeah and that's and that's the idea behind it is to remember that because

John, I don't know, you know, like, once again, a lot of people don't know this.

At that point in history, Marinette was the largest, the third largest city in the state.

Wow, I did not know that.

It was its population.

It was the third largest in the state.

Menominee, which obviously we're at across, you know, so let's just say the Marinette region, but number one exporter of wood in the world.

was coming out of Menominee, Michigan.

But I believe it.

So, I mean, it's a great, great heritage we have here.

Yeah.

And it's

fun that you guys still...

Yeah,

so July 12th and 13th, we're going to be doing this.

It opens at noon.

The actual fairgrounds open at noon.

Food trucks free for kids as far as all of the activities for jumpers and all that stuff.

And then live music, fireworks, BMX acrobats.

It's a great, great way to spend a day.

and inexpensively and just enjoy it.

Do people

buy tickets at the door, at the

gate?

No, it's free to come in.

Everything is free.

Everything is free.

I mean, other than the food and everything, but there's no entrance fee whatsoever.

No entrance fee whatsoever.

No parking fees?

No parking fees, no nada.

It is a great, great way to spend a Saturday.

You know, it's 45 minutes away from here, so come on down.

Are the Navy

guys gonna be walking around?

Yeah,

yep, they sure

will.

Now Mino won't go.

No, cuz they'll make him look bad, right?

Okay, you want to see women swoon?

Like legitimately swoon?

When the guys that do the flyover at the Packer games come walk you by in their flight suits, you're an old Air Force guy.

What is it about that?

Women swoon.

Grown women.

Chickstig aviators,

man.

Get

that on a t-shirt.

There you

go.

Flyin'

on

you're the greatest.

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Now, here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Uh, David, you can put your headphones on.

Oh, special thanks to Sean Katzbeck, director of tourism, city of Marinette.

Go ahead, Todd.

Oh, I think you're safe.

Um, we've got a very special guest right now.

Dana, I can never pronounce your name.

So go ahead and pronounce it for me.

Well, the Polish version would be Pavel check.

But most people know me as Pavel check.

Pavel check.

Yes.

All right.

Very

cool.

Northeast brand ambassador for lacrosse, distributing stubborn brothers brewery.

We'll all get to that.

But we, Todd, Todd, listen to me.

Hang on here.

I'm trying to chat with what are you trying to do?

I just tell you, I like.

covered her when she was with the all America or not all American.

Oh, yeah, you can say the state

championship.

Ashwabana and Jaguar softball team.

Wow.

I know.

I

used

to cover her

games.

Yeah.

And

that's how you guys kind of matter.

What?

Well, not really.

I think that was

exactly.

But we kind of realized through.

But I'm not

interested.

I'm noticing she was like 16.

Yeah.

And now her

son is here who's 16.

Gonna be yeah a couple weeks

small world how it turns.

Yeah,

or you get

back to Shana

Well, you knew my grandfather's story well, he said my

book

and I have that book

tell the story about that.

Um, so my grandfather was a prisoner of war and

World War II and I have this book and actually John signed the cover and everything and it was kind of really kind of cool and amazing and he's got an amazing story and you know that.

Amazing story.

I grew up as a child with him coming to schools and discussing and everything and telling his story which is just.

Tell his name.

Sylvester Karch.

Sy.

He was the coolest cat.

He

was awesome.

I remember every

time I go into

the room I told you this story I couldn't leave until I had a banana

split.

or I'm like molten milk.

Or molten

milk every single time.

Or in old fashioned, depending on the time.

But what a great, just one of those old school good northeast Wisconsin guys.

Yep, yep.

It was great.

And then my grandmother was Ellie.

Yes.

They were just a cool little pair.

They came from Chicago.

And so anyway, long story short, you wrote this, you know, cool book and my grandfather's.

That was in front lines,

my first one.

Yeah.

One of the last times I was with him was, I'll never forget this, the Memorial Day celebration at Pulaski High School.

Sure.

I both spoke and he was honored.

And I remember such a hot day.

Pulaski, I was wearing those big thick uniforms.

It seems like they're bad.

And like a couple of kids dropped and everything like that, but they still invited me over to the house afterwards for

a little

beverage.

And I think I still got the, from the Pulaski times or something, the article about picture of me, him and your grandma

together.

It's so cool.

It's so cool.

And then both my parents, you know, went to Pulaski high school back in the day.

And so, um, yeah, just a small world.

Yeah.

And then they became your heated rival in softball.

Oh, I know.

Well, not, you know, not too much, but we always, we always.

Just kidding, Pulaski, we love you.

Well, Dana, tell everybody what you do.

Yeah, so I currently, I work for two companies, actually, kind of a cool little thing, how they put the two companies together for me to represent.

So I work, I do brand ambassador work for La Crosse.

Can I just say one thing?

Yeah.

Are you like, what is that?

No, no, because my daughter does that.

Oh.

Daughter has a great, both daughters, I believe.

And I always say marketing.

How's that marketing work?

I don't know.

We're under marketing.

I'm like, yeah, I think it's branding, dad.

There's

a big

difference.

It's like- Yes, building

a

brand.

I don't know what the difference is, but so when

you say that- It's kind of in the same pool, right?

It's kind of in the same pool.

So basically, so for Summer Brothers Brewery, and it's great because they're right in Chano, and then La Crosse Distilling.

So this is, I have a huge passion for supporting local.

So essentially, I kind of cover or like help accounts, get our brand in restaurants, bars, and the retail stores.

And I just kind of do fun events and things like that.

to help promote the brand essentially for our local spirits out of La Crosse and then the local beer out of Chattano.

If you ever want to move...

And

spent a lot more for rent,

talked to my daughter,

helped me get a job with her.

She works at a New York City.

Last week,

she had to do a thing in the Hamptons for a wine company.

That's so cool.

Yeah, and I said, oh my God, that's so cushy.

Yeah, but Dad, do you have any idea how expensive

it is?

We have to get an Airbnb and share it

because it's so expensive.

So it's like, you've got such an extreme job, Lindsay, and you're, you know what I

mean?

I know, it's the most fun work, though, ever.

It seems like.

I'm like, what is so hard about, like I'm going into bars and restaurants during the day, I'm like, hey, and then you have lunch and maybe have a cocktail, maybe don't, just to kind of, it's all.

relationship building, right?

I do that.

I

don't even get paid

for it.

Exactly.

So it's been great.

And, you know, with the distillery, it's great because we actually, all of our grains and everything are from our local farmers.

Talk

about that.

That's one

of the ways

I wanted to have you on.

Because when we had, Todd, when we did the brew fest or we did our contest, what

was the name of

it?

Craft pick.

Yes.

Top craft pick.

Yes.

I always said it was really interesting.

Like I remember the guy from fun to lack and other ones were like the water they use is from

like on their property.

Oh, yeah.

The

things they grow goes right into their things and that's becoming the cool

thing now.

It's cool.

So

that's one reason I really want to get you on here.

Yeah.

Explain that what your company is

that you're

branding for, how they use local products.

Sure.

So the distillery, it'll be seven years in August that we opened.

And so

It's kind of this whole big concept of, in La Crosse in general, that's the whole, the glaciers essentially

didn't touch that whole area.

You've got

this most amazing organic farming right in our backyard.

So

there's a few owners, a couple Green Bay guys actually, a couple La Crosse guys got together and they're like, hey, let's have this.

great passion and approach for using our local farmers, supporting local growing right in our own backyards.

So the distillery, there's a few farmers.

One of the farmers is actually out near Holman.

So he's about

seven,

eight miles away.

So everything from our corn down to our corn for our bourbon is actually coming like miles

from the distillery.

It's amazing, honestly.

And I, I have a big passion just for farming and eating, eating as pure as we can and supporting our.

I know

organic is such a.

easy word, but it's

true.

It's so true.

We are organic.

You know, it took our farmer, I think, three years at least to fully, you know.

you know, go without any spray and pesticides and it's all open pollination.

And it's a really cool process.

And not only is the process of what we do amazing, the relationships with the farmers is what I love the most.

Like we know them personally, their families, their hardworking.

And it's a big full circle.

At the distillery, he actually comes back a few times a week and will take all that spend grain.

And that goes back to feed for his livestock, goes back to the crops.

It's such a full circle thing.

And it's just cool to see.

And I'm proud to support that.

I mean, that's what's so cool about this.

company out of St.

Louis is coming up here and trying to sell their stuff.

This is

all right

here that's growing right here.

In our backyard, it's like, hey, Wisconsin, you know?

And so for the last three years, we were the official local Vakav of the Packers.

So that was a huge thing that...

you know, we did and was a part of it.

Well, that's the thing though, too.

You know, it's really cool.

I mean, some people were very adventurous, maybe 20 years ago.

Like I remember doing a story when I was in TV on a small place in Cracow and they were making their own.

That's where my dad's from.

Is it?

Yeah.

Okay.

And but he was telling me the hoops they had to jump through back in those

days

because the state wasn't quite ready for small town, independent, you know, producers.

But now I think they've seen, well, these people

are really quality people and really put a lot of pride in

what they're turning out.

Sure.

Wouldn't you feel that way

too?

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And kind of just turning little page two with stubborn brothers.

It was this really cool.

I used to work for the distributor, right?

So now I work directly for the supplier, you know, it kind of goes down the chain that way.

As far as, you know, distributing, you can sell or I can't actually sell our products.

I'm just there to promote.

But stubborn brothers, the owner there and then the owner at the disability kind of got together and said, Hey, let's split one rep and then.

and she can cover and do both.

So Stubborn Brothers is also great.

The Wright and Shanno make amazing products and came from...

Farming their family's original farmers from Clintonville and so it's really cool It's always just family owned businesses that I am just like proud to stand behind and be a part of

I've only had some personality.

I know right I know I know I know I'm kind of a dud

But

it's been it's been great and at the end of the day, right?

I I don't look at my job is like I'm not in sales.

I'm in the I'm in the business of people, right?

I mean, I think regardless

what you stand behind.

It's people first, product second.

Right.

But when you got into this business at first, did you think to yourself, oh man, this is, this is out of my wheelhouse a little bit.

How can I do it?

But like you said, it doesn't, you don't have to be a mixologist who knows all that stuff.

You just have to

be

passionate about what

you do.

Yeah, absolutely.

I tell

people that all the time.

Yeah, you just have to care and love it.

But I did come from the service industry.

I know that.

Yeah.

Oh, I taught you how to make an old fashion.

So you did it.

So yeah, so I kind of came from it.

Well, okay.

We gotta

talk about

that.

Yeah, let's talk about it.

How did he do?

Let me just put that right out there.

How did he do making

it?

He put me to shame.

I feel like any event I do, you want to come?

Everyone, everyone.

Wait a minute, are you being serious about this?

It was actually kind of amazing.

He filled the cocktail to the brim though.

But it was, yeah, it was amazing.

It was a lot of fun.

We got to do more of those.

It was so much fun.

It's a

video we did together.

It was a video, and it was so organic.

And that's what's so cool about all this.

We just winged it.

We totally winged it.

It was like we knew each other for 25 years.

But

the history of the old fashion that you told

was fast and cut.

We got

time.

We got

three minutes.

And then we're going to

take it to a break.

Then we're going to have more.

Three minutes, tell the history of the old fashion.

I

knew this was going to come up.

I should have brushed up on my Google skills.

Just kidding.

So essentially, the old fashion is huge, especially in Wisconsin.

Like I said,

before I moved to Wisconsin, I'd never

heard of an old fashion.

And we have a different version of our old fashion.

It's the Wisconsin version.

We add soda.

We add a wash.

Essentially, you go out of state, and they're like, what is this old fashion you speak of?

You want a Manhattan is what you're looking

for.

So essentially, way back in the day during prohibition, where

Distillers were studying down.

There's a lot of things made with neutral grain spirits.

The great bartenders were leaving the country essentially.

So the spirits and the alcohol was so poor quality.

So they had to make it palatable for people.

So that's why how the cocktail essentially kind of started.

And so the basis for a cocktail was your sugar, your bitters and your spirit.

And so old fashioned just really just means this is the old fashioned way of the original cocktail that was made.

So it's just kind of this

Old school because I had a good flavor

right

components I guess to it It sounds like the

old-fashioned way that we

use the fashion way of making a cocktail and here today It's like one of the most mainstream.

Did

you actually muddle in all

that?

He was like

nobody.

I know he's a muddler, but that's in different

terms I've listened to his show for many years.

It was a ton of fun and I'm just happy to be here Oh man, we can do that some more Wow,

you know, it's funny you said that though because my family grew up with during prohibition with Grappa,

okay?

Do you guys just you guys have Grappa?

We don't

know.

Okay.

Yes,

but anyway It was it was so bad as I mean it's so hard that they would put a piece of lemon

in the thing.

Just

one or two pieces of lemon in the bottle.

And

let that just give it some kind

of cut.

So we have one of our spirits at the distillery.

It's called our Downtown Toodaloo Rock and Rye.

It's a really popular spirit.

It has a profile of an old-fashioned.

Way back in the day, Rock and Rye is kind of one of these

old school categories of flavored whiskey.

There's tons of flavored whiskey now.

But way back in the day when the whiskey quality was so poor, they had to put rock candy.

So pharmacists

were putting rock candy into

the whiskey.

That's what sweetened it up.

So now today we have this really cool category that we make one of ours.

What we use Chris Lai's honey is our sugar sores, lemon, cranberries, and that just kind of macerates on top of the spirit.

And essentially you have a better, palatable, approachable whiskey.

Is it wrong for

me at 8.47 in the morning to want

something like that?

I walked in and thought, oh, I should have had these prepped to

go.

I'm thinking the exact same way.

I guess she's going

back next

week.

I'll be a regular.

Where do I sign?

Bring it on.

Bring it

on.

This is great stuff.

One last quick thing

to

consider.

Quick break as far as with this business, though.

You know, years ago, we used to talk about the old school kind of things and whatever, whatever.

There is a young breed of people that pay respect and homage.

to those that got them here, but now have their new ideas and marketing ideas.

It's a real nice little combination of the two, isn't it?

It is.

It really is.

So we're gonna be sending a quick break.

Dana, pronounce your last name again, both the Polish version and the

American version.

Dana, Polish version, Paweł Czek.

Paweł Czek.

Or Dana, American version.

Po-well check.

Po-well check.

You know, does it depend on who you're talking to at the

time?

It does.

I remember the Lions old football coach, Wayne Fontz.

OK.

But people used to say it looked like, which wasn't a compliment.

But anyway.

No, it wasn't.

It

wasn't.

It wasn't.

But one of the sports writers, Richard Osdauer, he goes, well, he's Wayne Fontz to the media, but he's out at the bars at night chasing women.

It's Fontane.

Oh,

yeah.

I love it.

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Oh, I could be Paula Chesky.

I'm throwing the Esky in part.

Yeah, let's do Paula Chesky.

I gotta be honest, I'm

really impressed with your son over

here.

He's the best.

Yeah, my son Penn's here today kind of listening in.

Wow.

He's a cool dude.

High school wrestler, high school rugby, high school football.

How do you handle it all?

It's kind of just a lot of work.

I mean, it's like an outlet, you know what I'm saying?

It's like everything that's going on.

I can just go do my sport and I'll hit somebody.

That's cool, man.

Good for you.

Did she ever talk about her glory days in high school?

All the time.

That's all

she talks about.

It's

all the time.

Oh, my God.

It's like, OK, well, Penn, you did this, but when I was a nice

girl.

All right.

Easy.

When I was a

Jaguar.

Those were the glory days.

They were the best.

Like, I loved high school.

You know, I love those times.

Those were the best times.

We were

talking about other who else was teams that were good.

I remember the two pitchers.

We've talked about that.

Capless.

Oh, yeah.

Well, they're my family.

So I'm related.

Right.

That's what I mean.

But they were really good.

Bobby Joe and Bailey Joe.

Yes.

Hi, girls.

There you go.

Very nice.

But you guys had a rain.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And they were a few years older than us, but we kept that track going.

I mean, and, and I'm just going to, you know, give a little props to our coaches back in the day, um, um, Phil Adam and Larry Epps.

Larry Epps was our pitching coach.

And

Larry, do you know how good of a pitcher he was?

I sure do.

Okay.

I had to catch for him so many times.

I

played against him one time.

Did you?

In the Rhinelander softball

tournament.

Rhinelander.

Remember that the whole day?

Oh, the whole day, for sure.

That's a great little

town.

And he was a pitcher I want to say for Tommy's Angels.

OK.

And he was incredible.

That guy can make a ball jump.

It was incredible.

And then I went to Arizona State.

OK.

OK.

After junior college, went to Arizona State.

And they had the World Championship, a fast-pitched softball down there.

OK.

And who was like the star pitcher of the World Championship?

Yeah, Larry.

It was Larry Apps.

Yeah.

Wasn't that

something?

He was incredible.

I mean, he was

your.

you know, assistant coach type thing, but he was worldwide

known.

Yeah.

We were blessed.

And, you know, as a high school kid, I don't think you really understand that.

Right.

Looking back now, I'm like, wow, that's such a cool opportunity that we got to work with two of the best coaches.

And that's why I'm going to put a little plug.

We were good bunters because.

We had to practice against Maria.

So he would pitch to us and you'd put your bat out and you're like, oh my gosh, that ball can

fly.

Didn't he have a little mound at his home or something?

I'm not sure.

I don't, you know, I don't know there, but as far as me being a catcher for so many years, um, I, you know, Phil Adams was amazing.

Love the, love the guy, but I spent most of my time with Larry.

Can we compare fingers?

What do you mean?

Every catcher I know, fast pitch has a broken finger

like mine that never healed.

No, I don't, but I've had all sorts of weird finger hand of my knees, everything, but it's all worth it.

Those, again, those were the times of my life as far as sports and the friendships I still have, I would say like,

Our starting nine on that infield are still the girls that I see today in

each other's weddings.

I mean, two of my best friends, I was just at Channel Lake over the weekend, Stacey and Jenny and we, these are girls who have been in my life forever.

And me and Jenny always talk about it because we used to pick people off at third base.

Not everybody does

that.

What's

that?

Do you have a secret sign?

What are you going to be throwing?

Yeah, it was just my eye contact.

We knew.

And it was a little risky to be in a state tournament and have the third base girl leading off.

And I looked at Jenny and Mike.

We're going to get her.

She's off a little too far.

I

love it.

That's fantastic.

This is

great stuff.

Well, Dana, give yourself a plug one more time

and your company is what

you do.

Yeah.

Again, so.

kind of do a brand ambassador work for Southern Brothers, Beer and Chano.

If you guys have not had, Aaron is the head, he's the owner there and in the brewery and drop top, try it, buy it, it's the best.

Yeah, it's actually, so it's actually made with sandrop soda.

So it's a

random style.

So I mean, of

course.

And so it's just like, you go in many bars in the area and you're like, ah.

drop tops on tap.

I gotta try that.

It's a patio pounder.

It's really great.

And again, Aaron and his whole family business.

I know.

She's got all these turrets.

I know.

I love this.

It's like I know what I'm doing.

I'm

getting

an education here.

So he's great.

His wife's great.

Their family's great.

Again, family owned, family business.

And then again, lacrosse distilling, locals, organic farmer forward approach.

Great people.

I love my job because I love who I work for.

Give me a good summer.

drink sitting back in the patio.

Give us a patty patty pounder.

Oh, man.

Like a nice sipping whiskey or something.

Oh, see, if you're talking patio pounder for me, it's hard gin or vodka all day long.

OK.

And people, you know, gin is becoming bigger and bigger and bigger, and I want people to just.

See, to

me, that's an old guy.

Gin

always talks about his dad used to drink.

But we have an American-style gin.

It's not this, like, chewing on a pine cone type of gin.

OK.

And that's what you don't like about it.

That's exactly

because

it's like

taking

a bunch

of air fresher from your car and grinding them

up.

After I'm done here, I'm bringing that bottle in, and we're going to sample it.

And for you, too.

Sorry, do you

have a problem?

Sorry.

Sorry, Jim.

Sorry, you weren't here for this.

Everybody knob.

Yeah.

Just a drop top is the crack cocaine

of craft brew.

It's true.

It's true.

It's true.

And then not only was dropped up so big, Aaron then realized how big it was getting.

So he partnered with Jolly Good.

So our newer collab has been called it's our Jolly Beer Orange Cream Skull.

And that's made with Jolly Good Orange.

It's

well,

those are real summer beers.

That's a patio ponder as far as a.

good thing on the patio.

I mean, any kind of summer hummer or a vodka lemonade or, you know, gimlet.

It's like, I'm all about the lighter style, but we have an amazing bourbon.

Our bourbon is made with like red, red corn.

It's this ancient heirloom varietal.

It's a really cool style and everything is actually.

in our open air giant barn up in La Crosse.

So you could go up to La Crosse and see.

$1,800 bottles

of bourbon?

It's not.

It's maybe $50 on the shelf and pretty much all the local places here have it.

You know, I

was asked to join a bourbon club.

And I don't know enough about it.

I mean, it'd be fun to just

assemble.

But man, has

that become a big deal,

huh?

It is.

It is.

The bourbon clubs.

And I mean, obviously, we don't do tequila.

And let me explain why.

I mean, a lot of people are like, oh, tequila, it's like, well, we grow everything here.

Right.

You don't grow.

Because we don't have agave.

Guava.

You know,

right?

Honey friend,

guava?

It's agave.

Agave.

Agave.

Agave.

Because we don't live in Mexico.

We can't do that.

What?

Guava.

Hey.

What is guava?

That's a fruit.

That's a fruit.

But close.

That was so close, it's unbelievable.

That was

close.

You can't give him credit like

that because he will

take all of it and then some.

Wow.

But it was really close

though.

She knows.

Todd, you have to listen for the company.

Especially her.

But so we had this really crazy other whiskey that tastes like a tequila.

That's really cool.

So we got a lot.

I hope so.

Did I make the cut?

You made the cut.

Awesome.

This is my debut, man.

This is my break.

First cut.

You could do a podcast called the patio pounder

podcast.

Can I do

it with

you?

The patio, Puelchik's patio.

Puelchik's patio.

Oh, man.

Oh, my God.

Right here.

We're doing it right in this studio.

For

these.

Deal.

What's your son's name again?

This is Penn.

Penn, really look forward to watching you this season.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Football, rugby.

Wrestling.

Wrestling.

God bless your man.

Thank you so much, Dan.

It's awesome seeing you.

And thank you, guys.

It's great to see you, too.

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