Gridiron Dreams and Gourmet Schemes (Hour 2)

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Gridiron Dreams and Gourmet Schemes (Hour 2)

Maino and the Mayor · Tue Jun 24, 2025

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim

Schmidt.

Still working?

Okay.

Con cons last day convo last day his last day working with us because Todd's gonna be back tomorrow.

Well,

we'll see about

that We like con better.

We're gonna take a vote

convoy.

Yes You're right there.

I'm doing good.

Yeah Happy Tuesday.

I called I got here and I called con I didn't see him here.

I'm like, dude, you know, where are you?

He's I didn't even look out the window.

He's sitting in his car eating breakfast like okay

So he was here early, but having

what does the con have for breakfast?

No, he's a healthy guy get this I asked him that I thought for sure it was a McDonald's drive-thru Was con watermelon, right?

It was watermelon and I had some scrambled eggs.

That's that sounds weird the water little weird little weird water melon's my favorite side, okay?

Okay, I enjoy with everything scrambled eggs

That kind of healthy though, I think really

he might be on to something there con Well, you know you eat that you eat the watermelon and then

Don't eat together, obviously.

Oh, I thought it was kind of like mixed together.

No.

No.

Oh, that's what I thought when you said that.

That's what I thought.

OK.

We're in a hurry.

We only take so many spoonfuls.

So spoonfuls, we just kind

of... God, we're old.

You have to

eat... Right, right.

As long as it's... Well,

all right.

So I have eggs and watermelon on the side.

OK.

That's great.

That's good.

That's good.

You know

I've been eating?

What why do you always do that cuz it's you know, it's funny cuz I was talking to somebody yesterday.

She goes, you know, you guys sure talk about food a lot

It's the nourishment of life one

night it was I did what she said I said, well, we're we're working on a plan we're on a we're on a program So anyway, yes, but hey, I'm gonna try something today, too, and I get home this morning,

but no so anyway, okay?

Here's what I eat get back to all right under I'm 211 by the way not bad not horrible

What

No that, just wait.

That's good,

isn't it?

That's okay.

I was down at 209 and then I put a couple on quickly.

Yeah.

Okay, so I told you I wanted to get

up.

You know what I've been drinking?

I shouldn't say this.

No, don't drink alcohol, man.

Mm-mm.

Oh, then I won't say it.

Yeah.

So anyway, but no, here's what I've been eating,

okay?

Mm-hmm.

So I get these frozen chicken breasts from Aldi, I think.

Yeah, that's fine.

Okay.

They have good meat there, actually.

They buy right.

Yeah.

They buy a lot of their beef comes from AFG, which is really, really good beef.

So anyway.

Sweet.

OK.

So chicken breasts.

All you gotta do is put them in the microwave for 10 minutes.

I don't like microwave

chicken, but OK.

OK.

I don't know how to use an oven, Jim.

I told you that.

That's true.

You're right.

So, Mike, if I don't want to fry it because I feel like it's going to stink up my place when I fry stuff.

Then frying garlic.

Do you like to smell garlic?

I love garlic.

OK.

You have that stuff that's ground up already, don't you?

Yeah, those little jars.

Don't buy a little jar.

That's too expensive.

Buy the

bigger jar.

They ain't cheap, I'll be honest with you.

No, that

little jar is like $4.99.

You get a

big jar for like $7.99.

So it's probably three or four of those little jars.

So yeah, you get a big jar, especially if you use it.

And I like garlic

too.

Oh, I do, yeah.

That's my favorite.

Yeah, that's good to see.

So anyway, but listen to me.

This is healthy.

I'm helping people.

I heat it up for 10 minutes in the microwave, the chicken.

Then...

There's a little rubber

on it that comes out.

Oh, God, can I continue?

Can

I... Okay, I don't know, man.

Why don't know why you're not...

Do you have an air fryer?

Do you

have an air fryer?

No.

Do you have

an air fryer?

That's chicken in the microwave.

That's the best way to cook it.

Why don't you bake it?

Just let me know when you're... Con, let me know when he's done.

What are you saying, Con?

Do you eat chicken?

Would you take a frozen chicken breast and put it in the microwave?

Well, no, I know you

heat up food in the microwave.

That's why they're that's what they're for.

I mean, I would I would thought before anything.

Yeah.

Well, you know what, you're not me.

All right.

I just think you have other resources.

Can I just finish?

OK.

So I take I put in the microwave for 10 minutes.

OK.

Then I put it in the frying pan with olive oil.

I cut it up into small cubes.

Yeah.

Cubby old type things.

And I put it in the frying pan with olive oil.

OK.

and eggs and jalapeno peppers.

And I put some of the jalapeno juice in there to cook

it.

Okay, that's good.

All right, that's good.

That's good.

I don't know why you wouldn't do the whole thing like that.

What do you mean?

Why are you putting the microwave?

Just cut up the chicken into cubes.

You know, slice the chicken breast in half because it's too thick.

And you cut it up in cubes.

put it in with the just do it in the frying pan

well okay well because eggs only take like two minutes versus cooking at the chicken who says

you gotta put everything at the same time just

put what else you're gonna

do put the chicken in first wait till that gets you know almost done and then throw the eggs in and then put some lettuce you put some lettuce spinach in there no that'd be good some tomatoes no jalapenos oh jalapenos that's good

but the garlic juice

is really good to cook eggs with is what I'm saying yeah it's

a little vinegar

yeah

that's not bad no I don't get the microwave thing though

but anyway what

do

you

mean I don't know why you're using the microwave because that makes the chicken more

rubberous because I don't want to get food poisoning

how's that uh I do it my way you wouldn't get food poisoning it cooks it's just that it cooks first so you don't this is the reason why you don't

This is the reason you use microwaves.

You don't know that you could cook the chicken first and then add the jalapeños and eggs later.

But you could.

And that's what you should do.

And you should throw in a teaspoon of garlic.

Yeah, I would.

Yeah, garlic, I would.

If I had the garlic.

But it goes through so fast.

That's one of those things where you buy it and it's like you use it twice and it's gone.

Excuse me, you buy that little jar.

I know.

I know.

I'm just saying.

But anyway, throw it out of myself.

That's much better than...

a lot of other stuff you shared with us.

So yeah, good.

I pretty much don't drink anymore.

What?

Do you get that kind of like you think that's definitive?

I pretty much don't drink anymore.

But when I do, did you drink a lot?

No, I don't.

I only buy little bottles.

I like by the little

bottles.

That's

more expensive

too.

Hey, you're

always talking to me about, you know,

I.

Okay, whatever.

All right.

I'm just saying I'm trying to help you a little bit,

but you know, it is a really good summer drink.

Actually, I did this last night, sat out of my patio where it was 116 degrees.

Okay.

I thought, you know what song I kept thinking of?

Um, hot child summer in the city, back to my next getting dirty and gray.

Red and pretty,

right?

Remember that?

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So anyway, that Tennessee whiskey, Tennessee Convoy, what's the name of that stuff?

It's kind of like a red ball.

It's a Jack Daniels, but it's, it's a red label.

Yeah, that's expensive

Jack

is Jack

fire.

That's why I only buy yes

Jack

fire.

That's why I only buy real little bottles

What Because this is what he does con he'll go by eight little bottles He could buy one big bottle and have like 12 to 13 little bottles, but he doesn't think like that But the probably it's better for you.

You know what?

I'll take that back.

It's better for you to buy the little bottles.

Because if you have a big bottle, you might drink

too much.

I

watch.

I know.

Okay.

So

this is like discipline in the little.

Yes.

I'm disciplined.

What?

I got big bottles of vodka

and shit.

No, I got little but the biggest bottle of booze I've had is the one that you gave me at your Christmas party.

Yeah, I, I, okay.

I don't.

Yeah, I don't drink.

So that's, I know you don't.

All I'm saying is it's a perfect summer drink.

So what was in there?

Just that, just that.

I just drink it right out of the bottle.

I thought you were going to tell me that you remember that bar we went to and they kind of grilled the lemons.

And yeah,

it was like

smoked.

Yeah, I do.

Where was that?

Was that that was that was that Zamboles Zambinis?

No, I don't think they have

a girl in

there.

Where was that?

That was good.

That's they did kind of took a lemon.

And I think it was like I could have been.

Vodka, I'm not sure but then they you're right.

They took the lemon and

oh They brought it here.

They brought it here,

and it was it's it was like a smoked Yeah, vodka tonic.

It was

really expression lemon.

Yeah

That was good.

Who was that?

That would be a perfect summer that would be

a great course.

You could have a grill though on your deck.

Can you know

I?

Just use a candle or something even

I could maybe you know, we live close enough.

I could run some

Oh my gosh, that was that was a good

good thinking about

that, but I

refreshing

they brought it.

Yeah, you're right We didn't go out get a text here Jim is quite snarky this morning and that's from snarky Brian Wow.

Yeah.

All right.

What does that say

something?

Brian.

I'm getting ready.

You are the educator I have to teach today at 8 30.

So I'm kind of getting getting ready for the students.

That's why I'm snarky We've ever flunked anybody No, I

Well, it's like, drop this class, or I'm going to flunk you.

Oh, OK.

One of those things.

So they drop because they don't want that on the record.

D's, I think I told you at TC, they don't transfer.

A lot of kids go to TC, save a little bit of money, go there for one or two years, then transfer to GB.

And, you know, these, yeah, that's too bad.

You know, isn't that crazy, though?

When you look back on things, and I did it this, I did it this.

Believe it or not, the one smart thing I've done in my lifetime was going to a junior college, a community college first.

It's the exact same classes that I would have had at Arizona State University for 10 times the amount.

It was still English 101 or whatever, whatever, for a 10th of the amount.

And sometimes like at TC, they'll help you with some remedial things at no cost.

Like I say, look, you're not, you really should, you should be a little bit more advanced in math and they'll like coach you along.

They have great

student support at that place.

So, but, I mean, if you can, a D, yeah, and that's too bad.

I felt bad about it and they were all upset about it, but I'm like,

look man.

What are you gonna do?

You know what were great classes to have for those kind of things that's not in your major?

The ones where they had a program for teachers, for future educators, where they wanted them to just have some

Knowledge of like like I said that physics class was gonna be that I although I dropped it half way through the syllabus But those types were just to give you a taste of those things.

Yeah,

those are good classes Well that

right that's called a that that was one of my

concerns I walked out half way through the syllabus,

but I didn't know you did have to do the syllabus What does that mean that does it syllabus is the outline of the course?

Yeah, it's

So you got halfway through the course.

No, I got halfway through the professor going through the syllabus.

20

minutes.

I thought you were talking about four weeks.

20.

It was probably 14 minutes.

Well, I got up and walked out through the syllabus.

Yeah.

Okay, yeah, that

guy just knew it right then.

It's gonna happen.

You know what this ain't gonna work This I'm out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Got a text here from Michael says Jim I'd love to be a guest professor in your business class I'll bring microwave chicken for the students a treat.

I tell you what Michael

I'll take half of that I will take you as a I like I love bringing

you would be a good you'd be a

good speaker.

He would

be

really good.

Although I you know Yes, I like and I think I'm

gonna work for

him.

Yeah, that'd be good Mike is hiring

me.

Yeah

Well, now that he can't respond, I like bringing in guest speakers

for like, oh,

can you

never ask

me?

An hour.

You know who's going to speak at my class is Nick.

I just love a side hustle out the doors.

Cheese curd, Nick.

Oh, yeah, that's that dude has his whole business financials on his phone.

Like he, everybody looks at him like I just, you know, hand him off.

It's like, no, that guy knows what he's doing.

He's got savings and he's going to come in and talk.

I would.

Yeah, Michael would be great.

Anything that has.

to educate the students on business in the real world.

Because the theory, we have so many books and articles, and even today we gotta watch some video on, it's interesting, today we learn about different types of- Do you ever do film clips?

Remember those?

Convoy.

Do you

have

film clips?

No.

No, today it's about entities, right?

Soul proprietorship, partnership, LLC.

I could do that.

What You do have your

own LLC I did you

okay

minor productions, right?

Absolutely.

That's

cool.

We could talk about the advantages and disadvantages to that.

Yeah

tax implications.

I could say the real reason I did that during the break.

There's been some financial things.

Convoy!

Did you get a hold of my buddy?

I screwed up, man.

We've got

to get a new

board.

Well, that's probably with our board.

So just we need Todd.

All

right, we're going to run out of time.

The listeners, we have a board of what's coming up and John didn't know when Wednesday was.

So he kind of filled up Thursday.

I did.

But today I fixed it.

All right.

We're going to stop the break.

Back after this.

Yes, you know what the okay the next break you don't show on a what okay lawyers guns and money

I'll see if I can

find warren sieve on great song lawyers guns and money

I'll find it.

Okay.

Thank you

some Guy die yesterday some famous musician.

Oh, I don't know.

Hey

played his song.

I know I never heard his music before who?

Yeah Like real famous

Yeah, I mean it was it was a national I don't know.

I saw that but

suddenly type thing or

yeah, I think so I don't know but one of those like bands like like like meatloaf that kind of band Well,

he's dead.

Yeah, he died.

Yeah.

I met him one

time.

Did you

yeah?

You know what?

He was a huge Packers fan.

That's awesome.

I did a story with him.

There's a couple

of

guys out there that are like, oh man, was he like a county fair or something like that here?

And I interviewed him

And I didn't put it together.

Somebody else, I think, put it together.

His hero was Fuzzy Thurston.

Wow.

Yeah.

And he got to meet Fuzzy Thurston.

That was a big thing for him.

That's a big thing for him.

That's cool.

That was his, he was a high school football player and Fuzzy Thurston was his hero.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Huge pack.

You know what?

We have a great, interesting guest coming on.

And you're going to take the last half hour with him alone because I'm going to leave.

I wonder who his hero is this Christian Collins.

Yeah What he did in that state championship game last year was beyond anything I've covered sports since you know 1910 and I've never seen anybody have a single game like he had did

Like I don't I he's my neighbor, right?

I mean I know him and his brother and his dog all the time But I read about him last night a little bit Wow Amazing That this guy is

in the state of Wisconsin and all record-keeping for yards.

And that game was unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, he's a super nice kid.

I mean, that's how I know him.

I think that's great when great things happen to great people.

Anyway, so he's coming on at eight.

Great.

Talk to him.

Let's see who's.

Hero is.

Besides you.

Yeah, absolutely.

Besides you, of course.

Actually, I spoke with our boys from Channel 26, Channel 32.

We're doing high school football again this year.

Oh, cool.

So that'll be fun.

We're actually getting ready to shoot our pre-game show.

and uh that's you know what that people i get this all the time hey planar you're still doing this god you're like 80 years old to be able to it's like i don't care that's something i still there's something about friday night football that i still there's something about high school sport i wouldn't do it for the packers i wouldn't do it for college but high school sports yeah just the whole atmosphere i still love

did you did you do

Any Notre Dame's games or isn't that

part of your network?

No, we didn't.

Okay.

Well, it is, and they're on our schedule this year, but just by chance, for whatever reason, they weren't on our schedule last year.

Who picks them?

Do you go into those meetings?

Ted pretty much does it.

Huh.

Yeah.

He follows.

I mean, he studies that like you can't believe.

So.

Do you have a

spotter?

for like the with the binoculars because

you know to be honest with you the booths are so small you can't really we're still talking behind you Ted's such a big body my god Ted is like six foot yeah he just takes up a lot of space okay there's there wouldn't be room in 95% of the booth there wouldn't be room for another person

well

yeah yeah okay

But still, I love it.

Yeah, you do.

You know who our spotter is at times?

Mark Houston.

Oh, yeah.

He's a good guy.

Oh, my God.

Mark sees everything.

And so Mark's kind of like our spotter when he's at.

Oh, yeah.

That's gotta be fun.

It is.

Just the atmosphere.

Did you have to go through like a big assessment?

Like you can't gamble, right?

On high school?

No.

Didn't you tell me one time that like to do a sports announcer, you have to fill out this form and you gamble and I thought they asked a

lot.

Oh, no, that was for the Wisconsin herd.

Oh, that's an NBA thing.

Oh, NBA.

That's through the NBA.

That's why I didn't do it.

I'm serious.

That's why I said, I'm out.

I wouldn't do it.

I know, right?

Take my phone away.

Yeah.

Actually, you know, it's so funny.

I got to show you something.

This isn't good.

A buddy sent me a picture that he took of me in high school.

You see it?

Yeah.

I

know.

Go into your reunion right two weeks.

I don't know.

With the lunch lady.

Yeah, I don't know if I'm going or

not.

Hang on.

Okay,

anyway.

Want to see me in high

school?

Not really, but hey,

who are

you?

Which one are you pointing?

I'm the guy throwing the pass.

Oh, it looks like you're pointing.

No, see the balls appear.

Oh, you already threw

it.

Yeah.

Oh, that's great, John.

Good form.

Good form.

Why do you have that with you?

He sent it to me last night.

Oh.

He was a photographer.

And he's going through all the pictures.

He's got like 1,000 pictures of stuff that he took over the years.

You know what's cool about that?

I just, I'm doing that right now.

Let me tell you.

This is something you can do.

I was going through my phone and just some pictures of, because it goes back, I don't know, when did I get my phone?

What, 20 years?

and you can just click the pictures and send them and they print them for two cents each.

Print them, what do you mean print them?

Like they'll send them back to you, print it.

And then what you do with them is you just take that and that becomes like a postcard, just write the address on the back and hey, and you can send like, I would print that out, send it to you and say, hey John, good times, see you at the reunion.

You're not very impressed by that picture.

No, I'm not, I'm more impressed

with

the concept.

You're not the slightest bit impressed with that.

She'll let the con at the break and see convoy.

Maybe I'm missing something.

He's got to work over there.

Let me

want this Johnny I want to broadcast a game with you.

I'd be a good color commentator Michael absolutely.

Yeah, he would be he's so knowledge.

Yes.

Wow,

you know that

That could work.

Yeah, I do in the heartbeat.

Yeah, so you don't pick the games though.

Okay, I know that we got it We got the schedule lined up though for this year.

All right, that'd be fun I just can't announce it yet.

We're gonna be announcing we're doing our extra.

We're shooting our pregame special at little shoot high school

That's a cool point.

You know what?

Those little towns are so under.

I mean, God bless Appleton.

We talk about it Nina, whatever the little shoots, the grand shoots, the cacanas.

They're cool little towns, aren't they?

I mean, they got their own identities.

They do.

And they, you know, they work together.

Even that.

Is that one of the She's Fest where all the money

went back to

public public parks?

That's

very, very

cool.

So

what have you got, Con?

No, you didn't you fail.

No, I got it.

I

got it.

I got it coming up after this break.

I got it.

Don't

worry.

Let's get some coffee.

Who's this

orange even lawyers guns and money?

Keep it up.

Keep it up.

Keep it up.

Is

his birthday or what?

No, he's dead Turn it up con These kids all right All

right, let's get to our

guest.

She's awesome.

Come on.

She's this

is gonna be good.

All right Pam Yankee.

Good morning

I'm, I'm with you.

Turn it off.

We'd rather listen to you.

You get so much going on to share with our listeners and with us.

Midwest Farm report.

Yes.

When we had you on the other day and we just kind of scratched the surface when you were talking about something which was so like compelling.

It's like, and it's about the mental health of people in agriculture.

It's mental health awareness month for men.

Yeah.

So we were talking about that.

And then it's like, people talk a lot about different industries and people don't really think about corporate thing or divorces and all that, but people don't really think about the entrepreneur, the farmer, the risk they take.

And there's some issues there.

And Pam, you want to just, we started talking about them around at a time.

You want to pick up the

right where we were, Pam, if you don't mind.

Yeah, no problem.

Do me a favor though.

Introduce yourself.

Tell everybody what you do.

I thought everybody knew.

Sorry.

Sure.

Happy to do it.

Happy to do it.

Yeah.

So they call me the fabulous farm babe.

I'm a Wisconsin born dairy kid from O'Connell County that struck it lucky to find her passion.

sharing the stories about Wisconsin agriculture.

I've been doing it for a couple decades now.

I am the farm director of the Midwest Farm Report Network that's heard on civic media.

We've got 40 radio stations across the state that we're sharing our stories with every day, Monday through Friday in our website newsletter, et cetera, doing all that kind of stuff.

And like I said, just love trying to help people better understand agriculture today.

It's not the bibs and

you know, pick a toothpick in the mouth, red barn, white picket fence that many people have been led to believe looks a whole lot different today.

And we like to remind people about

those changes that have happened.

Still 98% of Wisconsin is family farms.

So no matter what you drive past, no matter how big that dairy barn may look, it probably is multi generations that are there, which can lead to some of the stress that we're talking about.

So the first thing I want people to realize is that farmers, specifically male farmers, are one of the highest risk.

for suicides that we have in the United States.

They are two times, I believe, more likely to commit suicide than any other demographic.

And part of what you brought up is part of the reason why most of what agriculture involves are beyond the control of an individual farmer, namely weather.

You know, right now this morning I'm using our top

our talk text line and we're talking a lot about the rain.

Toma this morning, checking in with seven into the rain.

Fondlack this morning picked up more than two inches of rain, power out.

If you're like me, I need air conditioning, so do our cows.

So farmers are waking up trying to deal with that.

The other reason why farmers seem to fall into a very high risk category for suicide, a couple of different things.

In Wisconsin, we're really comfortable with alcohol.

It's kind of just the way a lot of us grew up.

The other thing is in agriculture, we're pretty familiar with firearms.

Hunting obviously is something that a lot of people in Wisconsin enjoy.

Farmers are part of that category.

So when you put the two together and then you put in commodity prices, we cannot control.

Weather that we cannot control.

Dynamics of being very much alone in agriculture.

There was a time when husband and wife or maybe the kids were always around.

Now a lot of these farming operations, it's kind of just me, myself and the dog.

Or maybe it's another,

employee but not many neighbors around that we have to share, you know.

thoughts with.

So we really noticed a severe downturn in mental health in the entire agricultural community happened during the pandemic.

Farmers are generally social creatures.

They like to be with each other while all of our farm conventions were canceled.

Sports, they love to get out and support the kids at sports.

Well, that's not happening.

Church, another foundation that a lot of agriculture leans on.

While we're not really going to church or we're not interacting the same way.

So all of a sudden that ice

I know my husband's an agriculture as well and Even to go out and visit a farm as an agribusiness The protocol that was in place meant that you had to stay six feet away from that farmer So, you know that that just it puts an awkward space in and and again lend to

that mental health concern that we've got for agriculture.

Now the good news is when we open Pandora's Box during the pandemic, we also realized the shortage of tools that were available not just for Wisconsin farmers but farmers in general.

And that's when we really saw funding start to stream in for services that are kind of designed not just for farmers but for their families as well.

You know, think about it.

Farm families face not only the stress of being in agriculture, but they face the stress that a lot of families deal with in general.

Alcohol abuse, domestic abuse, drug problems in rural communities, that may be part of the mix here.

So the Wisconsin Department of Ag Trade and Consumer Protection really championed a couple different things that Wisconsin farmers have been able to lean on.

The first is always the Wisconsin Farm Center hotline.

Now that's housed within the Wisconsin Department of Ag, Trade and Consumer Protection.

It's a fantastic staff that does a lot of different things.

They are not only about your mental health, but they're also counselors in farm finances.

Maybe you can't figure out how to make ends meet.

They will help you when it comes to dairy questions.

Maybe cows are just stumping you as far as why they're not producing or why they're sick.

They'll help you there.

They will connect you with attorneys if you're looking at a transition or generational planning.

Just a lot of things in one spot.

And that number is 800-942-2474.

Again, that's 800-942-2474.

Or you can also send them an email, farmcenterat...

Wisconsin dot gov.

Now they handle, they handle calls and emails during normal business hours.

There's another

one.

I

just want to jump in real quick on one quick thing here.

When you mentioned tools, I mean, just you weren't talking about that literally, you're talking about legal and mental type of health type of tools that are available to those people.

But with that being said, aren't they kind of an independent breed of people

too proud?

Yeah.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, that's probably our biggest.

That's honestly, boys, that's probably our biggest obstacle right there is number one for that individual to admit that they need help.

Yeah, because we are very much a and you know this to be true.

You guys are you guys are from Wisconsin in agriculture.

It's all about.

Come on.

Tough not.

Yeah.

You lace up your boots.

Get up.

Get out there.

work it off, that type of thing.

And like I said, I grew up in agriculture.

This is my whole life.

And I understand that stigma to get especially a male to admit that they need help is paramount to trying to find, you know, get answers.

But boy, oh boy, I have had too many stories where getting them to admit that never happens.

And then the family suffers a loss.

And like I said, sometimes it's been happening over years.

It's not a one incident.

It's not a barn fire.

It's not a farm accident.

It's not one incident.

It's something that seems to generally build over time.

And then finally, it's just somewhere they reach a tipping point.

But you're exactly right.

And those counselors that I mentioned at the Wisconsin Farm Center are trained to listen for keys.

for tells, something in your voice, something that you say.

I had a really eerie conversation with an insurance agent the other day.

Now, remember, I am immersed in agriculture.

This is all I do.

And he just came up to me and he said, hey, Pam, keep doing what you're doing.

He said, yeah, I just had a guy call me the other day wanting to know about the value of his life insurance.

And he said that automatically set off sirens.

He said, when somebody calls and asks about life insurance, he said, I automatically start kind of rallying resources around them so that they have people paying close attention to them.

Because generally, the only reason why a farmer is inquiring about something like that is they are starting to mentally plan to take care of, and they want their family taken care of.

They want the farm taken care of.

If a farm, you

know.

I say to me that you talked about the pressures of, you know,

uncontrollable forces, the external, the weather, the commodity pricing, the isolation.

But the pressure on me would be to kind of screw up or mess up or lose a generation

of business.

I would

think of my great, great grandfather

who's

never met, but say, what is he looking down on me thinking?

That would be like, and I, I've made some money, I've lost some money, but it was always mine.

I just wouldn't want that pressure.

Totally agree.

That would be like.

And that's got to be there, huh?

Yeah.

And unfortunately, some of the things we're talking about will never go away.

The weather issues, the whatever, whatever.

Yeah.

That is part of the game,

right?

But to lose

that

after four generations, I'd be like, uh-uh.

Oh, yeah.

Well, and, you know, like I said, I am fourth generation on our family farm in O'Connell County.

We still farm.

Now, granted, my broadcast headquarters in Madison, but you will see my truck.

Burning up and down highways all the time when it's time for the cows are gone But we still do cash crops and you're right carrying that mantle of Continuing the legacy of that farm is a big responsibility and the other thing is some when farms are forced through economics or otherwise to Sell the cows change professions per se.

They may still have the farm, but maybe the cows leave

Yeah.

The identity of that farmer leaves.

I hear this time and time again.

If I'm not a farmer, what am I?

That's right.

Yeah, completely, completely.

And I try to tell them, you don't realize how good you are.

A farmer is an accountant.

A farmer is a nutritionist.

A farmer is a mechanic.

A farmer is, you know, a

really a community spokesperson, a farmer is a nutrient manager.

They do so many things in their life farming, but if those cows go, my identity is gone.

And getting them to think beyond milk and cows, beyond plowing fields.

is really a challenge.

And I had mentioned to your producer before, there's a gal named Jess Bochamp.

She actually lives in Abrams.

She is the farmer wellness counselor.

And I've talked to Jess and those questions and those conversations happen often with her.

She also has a free service provided through the Department of Agriculture, but it's a different phone number.

And they're available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Wow.

And the farmer wellness hotline is 888-901-2558.

I'll give it again.

888-901-2558.

And what Jess does is listen.

24 hours a day, seven days a week, you call that number and somebody is going to listen.

Pam, we have to

send it to a quick break.

Can you hang on?

We're going to have you back on in two minutes.

Pam Yankee, the Farm Babe Midwest Farm Report.

This is fascinating stuff.

Back right after this.

Hey, welcome back mind of the mayor here gonna look at Tuesday morning 72 in Green Bay 71 in Alton 71 and I today 72 degrees it is swimming lap day Swim a lap day.

I'm gonna do that

If

I know

how to do that, yeah,

we're

with yeah, I'm Yankee and Pam you see a swimming lap day.

Where's that?

Would you know that under a high 72?

Oh

Yeah, Pam.

Yeah, I just got it.

We just got a text um

from vicki pam just from vicki pam jay is absolutely crushing it this morning great content thank you for educating us so those are the people that are listening right now pam and you're bringing such important stuff to the forefront that we don't talk about right that's what you didn't even know about

no that's what's cool about this show is we kind of bring some stuff to the surface that we didn't know right

Because we don't know a lot of stuff.

There's a lot of stuff we don't know.

Our listeners know a lot more.

We're just

scratching the surface.

Hey, I want to talk about mental health, but I also want to, we just talk about the connections that farmers have that they can't control.

Even this Iran thing, right?

Doesn't that affect farming a little bit?

Do we send product to them?

Exporting.

Lately.

Lately.

since 1970s, not so much.

But I did pull some statistics that I thought were interesting, just in case there's a consumer out there that feels a disconnect, might want to keep an eye on pistachios.

Iran is the number one pistachio man grower in the world, ahead of the United States.

They are also big in certain fruits and raisins, things like that.

I don't see a lot of impact on things like dairy or livestock.

But remember some of the technologies that we've got in Wisconsin may end up going to Iran where they are still working to try to make sure that they are food secure themselves They do not have as much arable land for agriculture as we have in the United States So I'm learning a little bit more there as well But like I said for on the short term not a big impact for Wisconsin agriculture,

but exporting is a big part of their business, right?

just exporting well

Go ahead.

I just think that export the big part of our business Yeah, that's what I'm saying because I have some friends who are in manufacturing and I think that tariff thing is settling down a little bit But they're like holy mackerel.

Are we gonna these days could be a customer or not, you know You know that's something else that's out of their control I just you know the more I think about it the less I mean, it's it's great It's rewarding your feet in the community, but I don't know maybe too much risk for me on that and I love I could never do it

Hey, Pam, did you see them way?

I know I asked this last time you're on green and gold.

Is that the name?

Yeah.

Did you see it?

Oh, yeah, I

was at the premiere.

Oh, what did you think?

I really enjoyed it.

I mean, it was a little cheesy with the Packer aspect, but what did you I thought that kind of like boy, it kind of opened my eyes to the fact that if this is based on reality, how farmers and I mean, it's it's serious stuff, huh?

Well, it remember was the reality of the 90s right not today, right?

Although I am a diehard packer fan, and I love agriculture So those two components were there do not think that the way that Craig T. Nelson was farming outside of Sturgeon Bay is kind of the way we're farming today, but green and gold I love it I endorse it support it if you haven't seen it try to watch it because it is a it's a good it's a good story

to get people connected with some of the challenges of agriculture.

Yeah, I don't think people use horse and plow anymore the way he did, right?

Correct.

Hey, Pam, we're talking a little bit more about it.

We're Pam Yankee here of the Farm Bay Midwest Farm Report.

You are so passionate about this.

I can't think that agricultural people could possibly have a better advocate than you.

Well, like I said, there's a lot of us out there.

I just happen to be lucky enough to be an old broad in this business.

So have built an audience.

You know how it is and half the time in radio or broadcast is just hang on and survive.

Well, I've been very fortunate to kind of be the dodo bird.

You don't see many of me anymore.

So the uniqueness and the specialized area that I talk about is something that people really care about and cared about, especially during the pandemic.

And now I've got a staff of six that are

young enough to be my kids and they are just as passionate, just as excited and just as ready to carry the baton and help people better understand where their food comes from and how difficult any more these days it is to get it to your table and still find profitability.

Pam, I want to circle back to a few minutes left.

I want to circle back to the services that are offered.

You mentioned two, you give us some 800 numbers that they can contact given really any issue.

Is that all confidential?

Because maybe they want to call at night when the brother's not around or the kids aren't around.

Oh, for sure.

All

right, that's

cool.

And you bring up an excellent point that I hear from the counselors all the time.

Number one, of course, it is always confidential, absolutely confidential.

And the other thing is, you're right.

Jess Boatchamp was telling me some of her call volumes will tend to go up.

After about 11 o'clock at night, you know when you're you can't get away from your brain and You're by yourself or you're out in a tractor And you're just driving driving driving trying to get crops in or trying to harvest and you're all by yourself That is when a lot of people feel most comfortable to try to open up their soul to a complete stranger That isn't in isn't going to judge doesn't know your background or anything like that.

You are exactly right and quite frankly fellas

I give a rat's dairy air when you call.

The catch is call.

Yeah.

Make an effort.

Reach out.

You don't want to leave people behind.

Don't leave people behind.

And if you feel like somebody in your family, I don't care if it's agriculture or not.

If you feel like they're at risk, one thing that I've been told by the trainers is ask them.

Yeah.

Do you feel like you're suicidal?

Because sometimes just that in their face.

question will shake them into reality that they need to reach out or they need to unburden themselves and just but I don't know if I'd have that's a that's a big question you know what I mean

so I do so

searching myself but it's something to think about

Pam we got 30 seconds tell people how they can hear you

Love to.

Midwestfarmreport.com.

We've got our podcast playlist.

We've got a downloadable app.

And of course, any of the civic media partners that we've got, you can pick us up every day, Monday through Friday.

We'd love to share our stories.

Thanks

guys.

We love having you on.

You're fantastic.

Thank you for what you do, Pam Yonkey.

We get center break back after this.

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Thank you, Con.

Okay, is it working?

Yeah.

All right.

So Convoy.

Yes.

You haven't thanked us.

Yeah, who gave you a free 18 holes?

No,

not really

Well, I do I do appreciate it.

I'm definitely gonna use that

so Khan has been filling in for Todd the last but four days right five six

Okay, anyway seems so much longer and he gets paid more than we do but we're not gonna bring that up But we are we didn't give him a little thank-you gift Johnny went and it was his idea went but did you drive up there and get it?

Yeah, well, that's cool.

That's

a further drive than you

It's

like you think of Seymour just being ten minutes away.

Yeah.

No,

it's out

there.

Yeah You know what I wanted to stop and buy though bison

Burgers, yeah, there's that that buffalo that buffalo or uh brats buffalo brats They had advertised.

I've never tasted buffalo.

I think buffalo is better meat for you than I would think so right cuz it's leaner or something.

Yeah

Conroy when you go golfing buy me some 40 $54 worth that's what

we

spent on you Boy, I give those people credit that wrote their golfing yesterday though.

Oh

You know, it's not as busy.

So I know.

Oh, we got this from Terry.

He says, I recommend Pope's Pizza.

We went there last night, had the Supremo and we went to the third floor overlooking the Packer practice field.

Do you think somebody will try to film a practice from there?

You know, years ago,

well, they

still do it.

They've got those green curtains.

What Terry's saying is you can see over the green.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know what?

That's a good question.

Actually, that's a good idea.

I'm like a viking scout or

exactly go up there and just order a pizza and eat really slow and Act like you're talking on the phone, but I have it videoing.

Oh, no.

No.

No,

you can't act like you can't set it up.

No those glasses that lady had on

oh

Yeah,

oh, yeah.

Hey, there was a lady on here Terry yesterday from I should put the app in chamber Fox Valley chamber Fox Valley chamber and they've got these

These glasses that are there the metal glasses, but it's something like I spy or whatever and you and they look good they're Ray bands and you put them on and they can film you just film it they can identify people like identify the person you're talking to and John might know they it's it's amazing what those glasses can do and they look they're not like these big frames now you'd never know

that was unbelievable

300 bucks unbelievable 350 yeah

You know what?

That's what I would do.

I'd stand up there and watch the practice like I'm interested.

I'd wear all packer stuff so that they wouldn't know.

You could film the whole practice.

Right.

And just with your Jordan Love jersey on and I'd bring a couple kids with me so they would not suspect me at all.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Yeah.

Wow.

I wonder, could we do that and sell it?

I don't know.

Maybe.

I mean, when I was looking for a side hustle,

right?

We did

one so miserably.

Well, no, no, I'm sorry.

I'm backing up.

We have not our people have failed us so miserably in finding us side hustle.

So all right, we're going to go outside our listening area.

We're going to go failed.

We're going to go film.

We're going to bring her bring.

We're going to bring like our grandkids will act like they're grandkids.

We'll just rent a few kids and then we'll have

ice cream.

Would you bring my grandkids?

Jumping over that railing.

Oh my god, Lord.

Nope.

I think they're so wild.

It's inconceivable,

but then to sell it I don't think that's like legal so we would have to talk to somebody who can get us into the What's that con you're techie that dark web where you can buy and sell stuff Nobody knows who you are the black market the black market.

Oh, okay.

Okay, so

so we could probably sell it like you was gonna pay us a lot I can tell you boys.

I can tell you this I can tell you this so Julie Yeah, call me last night.

She's gonna call from Nikoi Bank

Hmm

her credit card was sold on the dark web.

Oh I Don't even know what the dark web is, but it was sold there.

Yeah, is that amazing?

Yeah

Yeah, that's pretty deep.

That's just where

it does a great job.

I mean they immediately nothing was you know, I we didn't get whatever whatever But isn't that they were told I mean she was told specifically the dark with the term dark web.

I don't know What is the dark web?

I don't even know what's dark.

They can't trace it, right?

You know, I don't really

Look into that because it kind of freaks me out.

Okay.

It's like it's like they some people think it's they're the ones like calling all the shots How about that guy?

This is a lot of the guy and some Mormon, you know, uh, Utah kids Went into the dark web as someone else to knock off somebody

Can you do

that?

Oh, yeah.

How do you do it?

Well, that's that's where they get that murder for hires all on there, right?

Con I mean, that's yeah, huh?

That's where all that stuff happens.

Oh, so that's like the selling this Packer practice for yeah to the Cowboys We wouldn't you know take an ad out in the Dallas Tribune or something We would go through the dark web and all of a sudden we'd get money transferred to us and we would

cut.

Yeah, what could some?

Wow,

but I mean those glasses

unbelievable that was so cool.

She

told us that yesterday.

She was here.

It's just like

Are you kidding me?

She just pushes this little button, but doesn't it go back to the spy movies or

totally smart?

Yeah,

the phone and as a shoe, but

they but

those things

always look geeky guy, but these things they're so sleek

and yeah That was on but I'm gonna get that I tell you what

pay for them pretty quick with this idea.

Yeah

Got a text here.

Patrick Grayson from Weston Pierce senior quarterback signed with South Dakota.

You like that

guy.

Oh my God.

He's the best high school quarterback I've ever seen around here.

Yeah.

Ever.

He's I've never seen a high school kid throw a football like he throws a

football.

I'm assuming that's D1.

Oh,

yeah.

I mean, like below Wisconsin, but they'll play those kind of teams.

You know, they play.

It's a phenomenal cut.

North Dakota State, North Dakota, South Dakota,

South Dakota State.

Where our buddy's going.

Uh, Northern Iowa?

Yeah, Northern Iowa.

Yeah.

Probably.

Cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Got a thing here.

Um, Chris Vinnie says, Minow could finally find his manual labor gig he's been longing for on the dark web.

Actually.

I would do that Vinnie.

I'm still looking for a manual labor job.

Yeah, that dark web isn't it?

Because I think that will, it'll help with my weight loss.

Which has been going spectacular.

You have to admit that.

Are you talking to Khan?

Both of you.

You know what?

I'm you know what you were a lot of black.

I don't know Yeah, I don't

like I could I would be so uncomfortable wearing like pink You're wearing pink and peach.

I couldn't do it.

I could not leave the house wearing that color of a shirt.

Why

I just don't know I'm God

I mean, I I like wearing black so

cut would you wear a shirt of the color?

He's wearing right now.

Yes, or no,

honestly I do have a couple of polos that are pink.

Okay

I have a bunch of different colored polos.

Yeah, I have peach paint.

I'm

only comfortable in dark black-type color.

I don't know why.

It's summer, man.

Still, I don't know.

No, but think about this, Jim.

Hey, you know what I bought?

I don't care.

Listen, I'm down 36 pounds.

Well, OK, that's, you know, I give you too much credit for that.

That was like 10.

You give me no credit.

It was 10 years ago during COVID.

So that doesn't really come.

Five.

Five.

Yeah.

But since we started, we are going to be on the air two years on Wednesday to your anniversary.

We waited.

Michael just told me what job.

Michael's hired me as a home inspector for simple life hospitality.

Thank you, Michael.

That could work.

Yes.

Because you know that stuff because you're real estate license.

Yes.

You're also pretty handy.

That could work for you.

Thank you, Michael.

However, if.

Someone doesn't agree with you.

You'd have them up against the wall.

So I would not

change.

I've not liked that anymore

the old me Yeah, a lot of people change when they get to be 65 that's that's when people make it was whatever 67 how old you are They know that wouldn't be a bad job.

That'd be a phenomenal job

Michael I'm in thank you

and really that inspector we had the inspector come through our house when we're doing the draft and

It's You didn't like look into the like really the plumbing or anything is just what it's you could do that inspection And I think we paid her like 400 bucks.

I think she was there for I don't know 15 minutes maybe 200 bucks Anyway, whatever if she she'd make a fortune if she was busy all day with the inspections and yeah That's something they look for the obvious, but you would know all that.

Yeah,

huh?

I'm in boom.

I could work.

I'm excited now.

That's a side hustle.

Yeah

Thank you, Michael.

Appreciate that very much.

Good cash.

Hey, another thing you were talking about earlier though, okay?

Because you cook a lot.

You cook a lot.

Too much.

Okay.

You, okay, wait.

Hey,

I made that salmon last night.

What'd you do?

I put it on the grill.

I seasoned it.

I've got some like friends of mine send like for my birthday and stuff.

They send me seasoning because they think I do like to cook.

I'm not a good cook, but I like to cook and seasoning can make a difference.

So they have all that seafood, different stuff for fish, beef, whatever.

So

I seasoned it and I

What does this mean Michael said but one thing you would not be allowed to speak to?

He

knows you and then I I But in with the foil on the salmon I put in asparagus too.

Oh, and then I put it on the grill.

However, I May have knotted off a little bit.

You know how I sit down.

It was I should have taken it off.

Maybe

Five minutes earlier than I did because it was a little little dry, and I like salmon when I was getting at

me with my weight loss of which you have zero respect for whatever right, but I I Think it would be hard because you enjoy cooking.

I know that you enjoy it You get your pleasure from I do I can spend all day, right?

That's got to be hard to lose weight when you enjoy something like that.

I told you I saw shrink He's like you got to find something else.

Did you really know that he's the guy that told me that no I said to him

build like make candles.

Oh yeah.

You want to eat wax?

I have to be more disciplined, you know, but I do like giving stuff away so I can make it and give it to like my neighbors.

Yeah.

And there's a neighbor that lives next to me.

Two houses down and he's like, I don't know, he's got to be 85.

So he likes my cooking.

What do we

say?

It's almost like, well, I shouldn't drink beer, but I like making beer.

Right.

Do you know what I mean?

It's

hard because I can't cook.

Yeah.

I mean, I microwave.

But whatever.

Cooking has gotten so easy because of the YouTube and you know, they're so you just it's not like you read the recipe.

You can actually watch a guy and then they talk to you like you're a little kid, like, you know, do this and stir it, you know, gently.

You know, I really

don't get a chance to see her a lot, but I sure like what's her name at Channel 11 now.

I don't see that.

I know you don't see it, but she's I like

she's just

got a great personality.

She's been on here, right?

Oh, yeah, we got to get her again.

He's he's done today man.

I can't wait to be out here.

I Didn't get a name.

I don't know I used to be called cooking with Amy now.

It's called cooking with like is it Kathy?

What's your name?

Anyway, she's yeah Sorry, I

don't know.

We should know I don't watch that stuff, but she but she's really I mean

you

see because okay, you know who I used to have a little bit of a There is one cooking show I watched religiously Giada

Remember Giata.

No.

No, remember Giata?

No.

The Italian cook?

She was old.

No, she wasn't.

I'm thinking of somebody else.

A lady on PBS that she's Italian lady.

No,

no, no,

Giata's

gorgeous.

No, that ain't her.

No.

Okay.

Who are you thinking

of?

She's on PBS and she does Italian food.

Yeah, she does.

No.

Yeah.

Okay.

I don't think her name's Giata, but it...

No, she's not something that... Do you watch PBS?

Look at Italian cooking on PBS.

We'll do that during the break.

It's

not

PBS!

Oh, where's Gianna?

She has no show?

Yeah,

she was on the Food Network.

Oh, I don't get that.

I don't think.

There was a big thing that she was getting it on with Matt Lauer and the whole thing.

Oh, you remember that?

No.

Oh man, you gotta start

following things more.

I know.

So you

gotta go teach today,

huh?

I do.

I do.

So TC 830 to 1130.

All right.

Sent out my, who sent their letter to the students.

It's like, this is third week.

You got to get with the program.

Okay.

You should read some of this.

Are you like kind of nasty for your first few days just to like,

I just get with me.

Once you get with the program, it's a great class that you got.

Don't fall behind.

All right.

So anyway.

It's summer, it's hard though, you gotta admit.

Don't you think, yes, don't you think summer school, though, people kind of go in there with a little bit of an attitude that's gonna be easier than they?

I love summer school.

Tuesday morning, isn't it gray out?

I mean, it's

like, wow.

It looks like it's gonna rain 72 degrees.

Okay.

What was Pam saying that Toma got seven?

I didn't want to interrupt her because when she's on a roll, yeah, just let her go.

Was that much?

I mean, seven inches is like a flood.

Did they really get seven inches?

Like six feet of snow, right?

Isn't like, I mean, that that's a tremendous amount

of

something.

That's unbelievable.

Yeah, I didn't hear that.

Wow.

Anyway, all right 72 out there right now in Green Bay 71 aptin 71 nash gosh and high of 72 although that report earlier said 80s today Yeah, so I don't

know Todd.

I mean Todd's not here, but come on.

Do you when's he coming back?

I know that we got the weather report long

so okay convoy.

Yes, Jim and I each have our favorite cooking.

Yes, and which one would you watch?

Well

mine

So on the stream, if you're watching, I have a picture of Giada in Italy on the stream right now.

Giada.

So yes, I would.

Yeah.

But can she cook?

It

doesn't matter.

And then the one the lady in apron.

And then you got Jim's favorite.

It looks like the lunch you should be cooking.

Lasagna at school, at the middle school in O'Connell Falls.

No disrespect to middle school in O'Connell Falls.

They're listening.

I'm sorry.

I'm just

saying.

My lady is, yeah, she

would not,

yeah.

I have Lydia's kitchen.

Lydia.

It's who I watch.

Oh yeah.

She's a peach.

She is, she's a plum.

She's something.

But she's Italian cooking and she's on PBS.

She likes

wrong cooking.

She samples a little bit more than your

girl.

I think she has a little gromp on the side.

I'm just saying, I'm not trying, whatever, whatever.

I want to

get that cooking though.

And you say you can't cook.

That's because, you know, maybe you didn't pay attention to your mom or your dad when they were cooking, but now you just sit and watch a video.

It's like, I can do that.

And sometimes it costs a little bit of money because you got to get all these ingredients.

And it says right under the recipe, seven ingredients, 10 ingredients, but, and don't try to.

cheat that.

I mean, if you don't have garlic powder, go get it.

Or if you don't have mustard seeds, go get it.

You know what I mean?

But that stuff's not that expensive.

But you know, some we were talking about during one of the breaks, I was reading a thing about Wisconsin, the state of Wisconsin and Michigan for whatever all these about how unhealthy we are.

But it's like, okay, and they listen, I want to say the top five foods that are

and fish fries, which is such a staple, such whatever.

It's so, you hate to say, because they're so delicious.

And everybody does

it on Friday.

And

it's not only the fry, it's the fish, it's the fries.

I mean,

it's not

like you have a fish and sea salad.

You know what I mean?

Like it's, yeah, and then.

Because

they were doing a thing.

It was also internationally.

There's another category internationally.

I think it was through men's health.

I was nobody buys magazines anymore.

You get them all online.

But another one was other countries and Britain was one of them where the fish and chips are like the worst thing you could eat there.

I forget what Italian was, something with the pasta and whatever, but whatever.

But it's it's just funny, but.

They're so good.

It's like, you know what I mean?

At what point do you just say that's part of like enjoying life?

It is.

But

with that said, there are healthy people who eat fish in Wisconsin, but you'll eat fish.

We have a couple old fashions and we go home and sleep.

And if you

would get up and go to the gym, I look, I'm just.

preaching that.

I don't do what I say.

I'm getting better though.

I think I'm getting better.

Well, I tell you, I've come up.

I'm not even joking about this.

When the shipyard starts, I want to have a shipping container things and I'm having my smoothie shop.

Okay.

Yeah.

And it's gonna be so healthy.

I'm telling you.

Let's you want to go on a shipping crate together?

Yeah.

Okay, that, however, it just means we're going to be next to each other.

No financial relationship at all.

Cause I want my side, my rent, my money, my profit.

You

can- Well then why going it together?

Cause we're

like, well, people, the marketing will be, oh, hey, mine on the mayor got a, they're going to come and I'll probably be the

lead on it.

I need a financial partner.

I don't have any money.

Michael, can you help me?

Cowboy Dave says, hey, rye bread and raw onion is

helping.

Yeah, that rye bread with butter.

What is that with the onion?

Oh, man, dude,

are you kidding me?

I don't get it.

You know what?

That's a good

question.

Why do you put cherries on ice cream?

I don't know.

It's just a thing.

It works.

Tastes great.

Do you actually eat it?

Absolutely.

Everybody eats it.

Con?

I love having some on my rye

bread.

That's what it is.

Yeah, if you gave someone a fish fry and rye bread,

without the onion?

Dude, they'd send that back so fast?

No, it's just that's a thing.

So we used to eat, when we used to have fish, we always ate brook trout, fresh cut brook trout, okay?

We would always, Mike, this was a family thing, you had to have a piece of buttered bread when you ate in case you choked on a bone.

Did you guys have that?

I don't know, it's because if we choked on a bone, but yeah.

That's what it was, it was because if you, I think that goes back to the gospel.

I'm serious where they had the 12 loaves and stuff.

So that's why they had the fish in the loaves.

Yeah.

In case you choked on a bone.

You know what?

God did that.

They just had that reading.

That was

last week.

And I didn't, I don't know.

I'm going to ask.

No, actually, you know who started that?

I'm not even so close.

St.

Peter.

St.

Peter.

He said, hey, Lord, have some white bread with butter.

You sure that

didn't have anything to do with that?

God might have been like, well, what about an onion?

They're like, no, nobody's going to use an onion.

Why do you need an onion?

I think...

Do you know what they have in that picture of the 12 apostles?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think that's what they're arguing over.

Oh, but

onion or the bread?

Yeah.

And that's funny that some people think the bread had to do with like the body of Christ, but you say

it had to do with not

choking on a chicken bone.

We got this new guy now, this...

The Chicago Pope.

You ask

him.

That's the guy.

He's coming here someday.

I told

you I got a cousin who was a brother.

Same type of thing.

My brother's

a

priest.

Whatever.

We're gonna set

up a quick break.

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Join the conversation now by calling 920-264-0606.

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Now, once again, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, welcome back.

Mino and the Mayor.

We got a text from William.

Thank you, William.

Also, by the way, Michael Friedman says, I'm in.

John, I'll help with your.

Storage unit a smoothie place.

Okay, and you will not be involved Jim.

No,

no

So no, he just said you will not be

so as we as the city Develops to retract to attract talent like we have somebody who's coming out in just a second who is super

talented

You know this shipyard district is gonna be like this container park where you're gonna have like shipping containers and part of them are gonna be restaurants, so

John and I are gonna get like we're gonna go in on a container No,

I don't

I want anything to do with you.

We're gonna have we're gonna be next to each other because I

even be next to each other

Because I think from the marketing standpoint they might say oh hey these guys you know they like each other Which you know that's also a facade out there so we can say we're kind of in business together and people are gonna come but I want

all my money and I want all my expenses under my responsibility.

Michael's my partner, Michael Friedman's my

partner.

Okay, well, you got some of the bankroll you.

I'm not gonna get that.

And then William says, yes, John is absolutely 100% correct.

That is the reason they give bread with fish fries in case you choke on a bone.

Thank you, William.

Catholic kid right next to us.

We'll talk, we'll get to that too.

Hey, look, we've got someone in here that

I've been trying to get in here, and I see him very, very often because we live a couple houses from each other.

And

I gotta be honest, when he walked in, it was like looking in a mirror.

It's all about

John.

You know, we'll get through this, but... What do you weigh these days?

Let me guess, 192.

Higher?

200?

200.

What were you two years ago in high school?

We did your game two years ago, whatever.

You were, what, 170?

Probably about 175.

Isn't that something?

Man, have you lived in the weight room?

Absolutely.

Good for you.

Okay, we're gonna introduce

him to you.

This guy

has been bragging about you for

so long.

Two years.

You can't believe it.

So go ahead.

Two years.

I've known this kid for a long time.

You are a good kid, and I will get to the football later.

That's really not how I know you.

I know you more as a neighbor.

But Christian Collins is just an unbelievable athlete.

Great student.

We'll get to that as well.

But in his last game, scored five touchdowns.

Correct.

Yep.

408 yards.

Correct.

And you are OK.

Did you set the

album record at camp ran or did or did was it Gordon

Ball

had one year.

It was a tie.

It was a tie.

Exactly.

Right.

That's unbelievable.

OK.

That's a pretty good company.

And you in the state of Wisconsin and we've been around forever.

You are the fifth in in Russian yards.

Correct.

Yes.

In history.

In history.

Who's who's ahead

of you.

I would think Brent Moss.

I don't know exactly know maybe

okay.

I

know there's a

guy from a there's a guy from Grafton we both tie the Most yards in one season, which

is

okay thousand eighty-four like

exactly Yeah, do you get together I mean is like sometimes

Like a lunch or breakfast or something no no not really the only thing that we really get together for is the all-state banquet

which is like a week after the season ends.

Or maybe like two weeks after the season ends.

Are you playing in that this year?

No, that's also a game.

That's also a game.

Are you good at

play?

No, I'm not going to be able to.

I leave in like 10

days for college.

So we'll get to that.

You recruited right as you should be.

A little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I read some stuff about that where you thought maybe it should be a little bit quicker.

But what I like that you read, what I read about you was

you like to run people over.

I do.

I

do.

And you're kind of- It's fun.

No, this is what you said.

You said, I like to run people over.

That's kind of my thing.

And yet, I would like to think people would look at me that way in the corporate world.

It's kind of my thing.

I just, you're confident- I would like to run you over.

And you, when you get the ball, do you, like, what do you think when you get it?

You said when the play's called, you know,

I know

exactly what to do right like I mean we practiced everything so much that it was just like second nature to me I just feel like at the running back position.

It just came so natural So I really didn't have to think much which is which is what you want You just want to think about what you're doing in that moment and just react just react I gotta do is react to the blocks because sometimes it's not gonna go the way you want and you just got to be able to react and

That's that what that's what makes a good running back.

I feel like

you play for the gladiators who'd you play for when you're young?

I play for that way bucking years.

No, the bucking years rather.

Yeah, man.

You guys were so good.

They were so good.

They were so good.

I think we went on in years.

We went on this feed for probably about two years.

I remember when they had because my daughter went to, you know, the whole schools and everything and resurrected.

Where'd you go to junior high or

resurrection

resurrection?

My kids went to resurrection.

I love just down the street from it.

And I remember she was a cheerleader.

So it come out and I remember they had one of the kids they had was, um, oh, he ended up going to the Air Force Academy and they had a polemotic games because

He was so good.

Is that it play for the Packers?

I can't think of his name now.

And he was just like and he would like cry because why can't I play but he was so good.

Then I remember Island Felt remember the Island Felt Island

Felt's were amazing.

Amazing.

He was there.

The players they had come through the Buccaneers program.

But when you what you're talking about here like what Jim asked you about with the plays you guys

got great coaching at really young ages.

We do.

Like Nate Island Fall actually came back for a couple of years.

He was my running back coach for a little bit as well with Ben Augustine.

Two great coaches.

So we're talking with Christian Collins here who is going to Northern Iowa and I know they're delighted to have you and that's going to be great to watch you.

All-time record setter at Notre Dame and in the state.

When did you like know or like I know your parents and

Did they push you or they're super supportive parents?

Oh my god.

I mean When did you know you're a little kid and said look I this I like this or did you like a lot of these guys come in and they like basketball like baseball and it's like I'm not sure what I really wanted to do Well, they're

very supportive.

My dad was a big football guy I mean we played soccer up until probably about fifth grade and then

which is great

Yeah,

because I mean Kevin Borseth still says when he recruits

or he used to recruit, he loved it if they played soccer

in

their younger days.

I feel like it just builds a lot of speed and agility.

Well, we played up until fifth grade and then we went into Bucks and it was just supported mainly by my dad at the time.

My mom was a little skeptical because, you

know, moms,

they don't like the hitting.

She's

very

protective and all that

stuff.

Yeah.

But she she loved it after probably a year.

Like she loved it.

She loved watching it.

So no, they're super supportive.

I mean, there's there's been nothing, nothing better, really.

What at what point did you realize, holy cow?

I'm not bad.

This is what I want to do.

Yeah.

Well, I remember there was something that coach Rader said.

Um, who's our head coach now?

He coached us a little bit in LA Buccaneers.

Uh, he said, he said, Oh, this is

not horrible

either.

No, he's great.

He was really

good.

He was our, uh, offensive tackle this year.

He's six, 10.

I mean, no

one can reach him.

I mean, cause he's his arms are so long.

So what did the, what did the coach say?

Did you coach, you said this kid coach Raider said, like, Oh, this, I'll put money.

This kid goes to you.

Well, yeah.

I was playing in wide receiver at the time.

I didn't I was running back only until freshman year like I started freshman year

You were wide receiver.

Mm-hmm.

I was

a wide out.

Yeah, were you?

Upset when I sometimes you read about this stuff is guys.

I really don't want to do that Were you open to them?

Did you believe in the coaching or you believe in it

was it was mainly my decision and also my dad's because he said he knew the offense at the time because we would go to Notre Dame games and it like

All it would be is running the ball.

And so my dad's like, if you

want to- I was going to say, the water receiver at Northern Dave is kind of a lonely position.

Right.

Right.

And he said, if you want to play and if you want to be kind of that guy, be a running back.

Like that's what you want to do.

So first day of practice, it's like kind of figure out what you want to do.

It's like either there's like rotations of like running back, wide receiver, linebacker, all that stuff.

I went to wide receiver, running back.

linebacked.

That's what that was kind of my thing.

And I just kind of fell in love with running back.

That's just what I love.

I love when you guys go because I think there is such a prejudice against Northeast Wisconsin football due to the the graftens of the world, the Milwaukee's the you know what I mean?

And even when it comes to all state teams and things like that, I think kids from this area get for a lack of better words screwed over at times because of the media down there.

So for you to go in there, you guys and just

Destroy that that was wonderful.

That was so much fun to watch wasn't it?

Yeah, it was awesome even because we had They had an all-state running back as well.

Yeah, we only held him I think to like 26 yards or something like that was just amazing I can he's going to college with one of my teammates will always probably rub that in his face.

Where's he

going?

He's going to Northern Iowa.

Oh, all right.

I'm sorry northern, Michigan.

Oh, northern, Michigan.

Okay

God

bless northern Michigan.

I know

their coaches looking up their thing the other day, because we got some local kids, one of their quarterbacks is from Westy Pier.

But anyway, so I just kind of this coach, you know, they they list and you don't map the floor coach there.

I mean, big to Robert Sala.

I mean, OK, this coach, you know, they lift your record and everything.

Oh, and twenty two.

This is record.

They haven't won a game in three years.

That's terrible.

And it's unbelievable.

Have you ever been up there?

Did you go on a recruiting trip?

I never did.

I was trying to tell Jim.

About where they curse where you're going the uni dome is really cool.

I used to do basketball games there when play that But the but the dome up at Marquette is amazing the indoor wooden dome.

It is for a D2.

It's amazing

He was tell me about that.

I've never been up there, but it's and it's like the largest in the state or they in the country in the

world It's a large.

I believe that it's it's it's a largest

wooden facility in the world.

I Think that's a spruce goose.

No, I'm

serious

All right, so you're excited.

You went down for some orientation.

And how is that?

Are you a special person?

Are you all in the same team?

Tell me how that is.

Go on walking on campus.

Can I

jump in and just tell me if I'm wrong?

You're a special person while they recruit you.

And as soon as you're signed, you're meat on the hoof.

And here's how it's going to be.

Isn't that kind of the truth, though, as far as with college football?

When you're talking scholarships,

This is serious.

This isn't, you know, this is serious now.

I mean, you're very serious about this.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

I mean, I wouldn't say meet on the bone, but I would say just like.

I mean,

you're expected to.

Here's here's your classes.

Here's your practice here.

It's great lifting here.

It's a cut.

Yeah, it's

exactly.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

I mean, we have I think it's like.

Maybe 7 a.m.

To 4 p.m.

That's we're basically doing everything Wow from it's like six days a week.

I think it's a there's like a morning morning run and then there's a little break and then there's a left after and then I think we go through like film study we go through plays and all that stuff That's mainly what fresh

and during the season there will be study

halls study halls mandatory study halls three days a week.

Yeah, you're

Academically, you're not gonna have any problem.

I don't know.

No, I'm not

What I'm saying is every minute every minute is Yeah,

yeah, right now

they're making a big investment in you,

right?

I

mean, there's a hundred kids that would give anything for your spot

Yeah, by more.

Yeah, you know Tell me about the process.

Well, we're gonna go to a quick break.

I'm gonna talk about the process of there's a lot of schools out there I don't know how many D1 schools there are but

You pick this and you never look back.

I remember reading about that.

You're like, this is where I belong.

It's a

cool place though, Northern Iowa.

Well, I think Northern Iowa is a great place.

It's a cool facility.

It's

cool.

We got to send her a quick break.

We'll be back.

Christian Collins, back after this.

Hey, do you want something to drink or eat?

Oh, I don't think so.

Good morning with a very special guest, Christian Collins, just one of the greatest running backs.

Truthfully, one of the greatest high school running backs in Wisconsin high school football history, going down to play for the Panthers of Northern.

Iowa, you know, we're just talking we got this thing where Patrick Grayson just announced he's going to South Dakota That is people don't realize how good that conference is North Dakota State North Dakota Northern Iowa all those schools That is a

real tough brand of football.

Isn't it?

It is for sure.

Yeah, the Missouri Valley's made a conference for even like basketball and like every sport.

They're just the teams are great very competitive Great fan support.

Oh great

Great fan support.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Christian, you're going to be there soon, right?

10 days.

You're

going to be down

there.

Are you guys into all that NIL stuff?

I mean, you're a good looking guy.

People are going to like you.

You're going to get the ball a lot, right?

Enough about me, Joe.

That's a lot about Christian.

Do you talk about that?

Does anybody approach

you and say, hey, look, you want to sign here?

Not fully yet.

I mean, I've reached out to a few, like, underdog athletics.

It's like a clothing brand, and then Bubbler, which is like a Wisconsin-owned company.

It's a

drink.

They said to reach back out in July, because that's when they accept athletes and all that stuff.

So I mean, I feel like most of the time you got to kind of do it yourself, unless you're like a big time name, and then they'll come to you, but... Well,

even, what's his name?

From Wisconsin, Play to Find a Lack?

Braille and Allen?

Yes.

I mean, he's got some local type of contacts like you probably get bigger now that he's whatever a veteran in the NFL.

But that's how you start with some and the safety for Wisconsin Woolers.

He's got those.

So I mean, they're out there.

They like athletes like you guys.

Well, hey, you're not really driven by money.

I'm not.

I

know you're not.

I mean,

I know you, which is good.

And I think either

way, that's where we're on

radio.

I really think it's sometimes people like you that the money comes, you know, and I just stay focused on what you're doing.

I just want to ask you a couple of things about, um, did you, were you born and raised here?

Cause you guys, were you born and raised

in Green Bay?

No, that's what I thought.

No, I've lived in a few other places.

Um, I moved from Denver, Colorado when I was eight months, just about.

And then

We lived in St.

Charles, Illinois for six years and then moved here.

Okay, and tell me what you think you're 19, what, 20?

19-year-old?

18,

18.

You're 18,

alright.

What do you think of Green Bay as an 18-year-old?

I mean, I have kids a little bit older than you, not much, but I guess they are a little bit older than you.

What do you think of Green Bay?

You went to school at Notre Dame, you went to Rez, I

mean... I love Green Bay, I think it's a great place to live.

I'm not super invested into looking at the place that I live, but I love it more than I did at St.

Charles.

I think the cost of living is low, which I think is really great.

I think the schools here are pretty amazing.

Notre Dame Academy, academically, athletically, they thrive, so I think it's great.

And then when it came time, when did...

I'd see so you were or you were always a good football player when did you think?

You start getting recruiting and like what's a decision process at playing time is that?

Location is it coaching?

What makes you pick a school because you you were recruited like you said maybe not as much as you wanted to but I think the fact that you're recruited is speaks highly of you What made you pick where you went?

Well, a lot of it was the caliber of play that the plant I mean that's I really only got fcs offers.

So I mean I only had Dayton and University of Iowa, and then there was like a 2d2's

Which is mind-boggling?

It's like what

more do

you need to do for the love of the Lord?

You know what I mean?

That's

crazy.

It was it was pretty slow for

Michigan Tech or northern Michigan those schools that's

Michigan Tech did

You should have been Michigan Tech.

They play good

football.

Yeah.

Yeah, they do.

I mean

that conference too with Grand Valley and everybody

has

a real

tough conference.

Grand Valley is really good.

Yeah,

Ferris, all

those schools.

The caliber of play was high on your list.

It was.

It was.

The caliber of play and then the coaching staff is just amazing.

You've said that a couple times.

You must have been super impressed with them.

I was.

I really was.

We had to sit down one-on-one with a lot of the coaches and I just loved.

Coach Steps is what's great.

He was super welcoming.

He put family first.

Like we didn't even talk about football until like probably five to 10 minutes into the meeting.

I don't get this mixed

up.

Cedar Falls or Cedar Rapids?

Cedar Falls.

Cedar Falls.

Yes.

But is that the guy that came from Drake?

Yes.

Okay.

All right.

I

know you were impressed with them.

That's pretty cool that

you says a lot about you, too, that they started talking about your family and the environment versus just into home often.

You didn't carry the ball.

Wisconsin didn't show any love?

No.

It's unbelievable

not even after that game in Russia.

I thought I thought maybe fickle head or something I don't know I mean even if they said that's strong

or whatever, but that's unbelievable.

I'll just have to prove his right

and he's out of a job anyway.

Yeah,

yeah He will I'm serious.

I think they're I'm sorry, but he just hasn't gotten it done.

I was just talking with Kaden Yakimeli yesterday and

He's a great guy, great running bag, big dude.

He's gonna be either the number one or number two at Wisconsin this year, so.

That's

awesome.

It was pretty sweet just picking his brain.

You

know what's funny though too, you get these kids that are so highly touted, like, remember when they recruited Graham Mertz, and it's like, oh, this is gonna be the next great quarterback ever to come through, and nothing.

No, yeah.

Just, you know.

I do.

There's such

a difference between high school success and what it takes to, at the big level.

College football.

Yeah, you just got to sell yourself.

Sometimes people do it just right.

It might not be as good.

Did my old-school, Masabi State Junior College contact you at all?

Mm-hmm.

Damn it.

You missed on another one.

Yeah.

Well, at least they got me.

We gotta start

a

quick break.

Back after this.

Stick

around.

We are together, chasing the moonlight, my sun

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

a good look at Tuesday morning, 72 in Green Bay, 71 in Ampton, 71 in Oshkosh being joined by Christian Collins from the greatest high school ringbacks in the state of Wisconsin history.

And now we're going to talk to a gentleman who covered maybe the most successful high school football team in the history of Wisconsin football.

My great friend, Tom Aiello, former sports editor of the Manitowoc Herald Times.

Tom, good morning, my friend.

Hello, John.

How are you?

I'm good.

So you covered an error of high school foot.

We got Christian Collins here and I don't know if you followed him, but he had over 400 yards rushing in the state championship game last year.

You covered a team that was amazing at Lincoln High School in Manitowoc in the mid 80s.

Could you describe what that team and that legendary coach was like covering them back in the day, Tom?

Yeah, the coach Ron Rubick was a pretty.

low key guy when you just talk to him that way but he had been a former michigan state uh... star running back back in the day before that but then uh... that era just kind of started at the end of a season before when they won a couple games and then they went down the wind you know forty eight straight which at the time was the longest in the nation.

What would you don Davey and some of those guys tell me about those teams?

I remember come down to watch them practice and you're right It wasn't anything, you know, he wasn't like this rah rah Vince Lombardi, whatever But they were man.

They were just good for lack of I can't come up with a better support.

They were just good

Yeah, they pretty much people knew what they're going to run right and everything but they couldn't stop it their offensive line was

You know, you would think Davey was the biggest guy, but he really wasn't.

You know, a guy named Robin Meisner, being part of that time, too, was just a heck of a lineman, but they were like, how size or bigger offensive line.

So, you know, if you're,

you

know, a sophomore cornerback or something, and you see these guys coming around the corner at you, it couldn't have been fun to...

You know, try to stick your head in there and make a tackle.

So yeah, they were pretty dominant, uh, pretty much a running team, you know, most, most of the time.

So, um, Ron was an interesting guy in a lot of ways.

There was a quarterback at the time named Craig Erickson, um, playing in Florida, I think, uh, Miami, Miami, Miami.

Yeah.

That's right.

Miami.

And his dad was a man called Lincoln graduate.

And I had asked, you know, around one time, I said, what would you have done if you had Craig Erickson here?

Because, you know, I got passes the ball all the time.

And he, he replied in typical Rubick manner.

He said, I'd make him a running back.

Craig Erickson, the Heisman Trophy winner, his dad is from Manitowoc.

I never knew that.

Yeah.

Yeah, his dad was a Lincoln graduate and they moved away, apparently.

So anyway, you know, we all thought that it was funny, like you could imagine him being at a camp or something in Manitouk and him going, yeah, you have a good arm, but

by

the way, the,

uh, the quarterback of one of those state championship teams replaced my hip for me.

Oh, really?

What's shown us that D Ramondo, the

left.

Oh, yeah.

His dad was, his dad was the team doctor and I used to kid him, Harold.

Um,

He used to tease him on the sidelines once in a while about, you know, he had the ship schedule in his office.

Like guys, injuries always came back, you know, right for the key game.

So

Jim here, Jim here couldn't get into Lincoln academically.

So he had to go to Ron Colley.

It's so untrue.

Yeah, they

had the acceptance rate like your college, John.

So anyway.

Christian Collins, who is, of course, the running back here at Notre Dame, he's talking about coaching.

I want to ask you, Christian, what do you look for in coaching?

Well, what I look for in coaching is just not, especially at the college level.

Stepsis was so welcoming and talked about family.

He was family first, academics first.

That's what I look for.

And I also look for a coach that is

Um, that just pushes you really hard and pushes you to like like he knows your potential and pushes you to that, you know And kind of puts you in the best place to perform at your 100%

And I think that's a good coach.

Hey, Tom, I just want to say one thing.

I don't know if anybody besides Don Davy went on to college, because I remember I had a couple of college coaches talk to me about, hey, could you kind of put in a word for us?

And you know what?

None of them wanted to go to college.

They didn't want to give up hunting season.

They were like the most blue collar type guys.

weren't they though,

Tom?

Yeah, they were.

Eric Olson went to Air Force and was a punter there.

But, um, yeah, this Meissner was, uh, uh, I think Michigan State, but I'm not positive on that, but he was a big, uh, B1 recruit.

And then he just decided when they were at his house, uh, and the story goes when they were at his house, he just came downstairs and said he decided not to play football.

Then he was going to come back a few years later after doing other work.

He came back and, um,

asked about, you know, going back.

And I guess there was an assistant coach who was then at Northern Michigan, who was excited to try to get this guy there.

But, you know, I don't think he ever ended up playing there.

Well, that's exactly, it was a coach, it

was a coach from Michigan Tech and one from Northern that would call me and say, Hey, could you put in, and I told them, I said, well, all these kids want to do is hunt and fish.

That's like, perfect.

Bring him up here.

They can hunt and fish the whole time.

So they thought they had them, but they were just a bunch of blue collar kids who were just tough football players, weren't they?

I mean, you, you, you have to look back on that.

And we're talking with Tommy, I have a longtime sports writer for the Manitouac Papers.

Um, you have to look back at what a golden error you had to cover sports on the lake shore.

Yeah, I did because, uh, before Manitouk Lincoln, one of those three straight.

D1 titles, two rivers had also won three in a row, previous like, you know, one year gap in between.

And before that, two rivers, I think from about 80 to 82, had one title, and I think brilliant one-one, and then Manon Clark Lincoln had their run a three in a row, and then Ron Cowley was winning some.

I was waiting.

I was waiting for that.

Come on, man.

Well, I remember

another thing I remember.

I remember.

Get to the Jets.

Valder's had really great basketball teams.

Yeah, Valder's had Van der Velden, I think was one of the big stars.

And he had actually had a little stint with the Milwaukee Bucks.

Yeah.

And Manituck had a really good basketball.

team going for a while to about the nineteen eighties maybe a little before that it started with bad Juergensen who went down the play at South Carolina and then was also a draft pick with the Bucks who you know back then they had a more rounds in the draft but.

That's pretty

amazing for that

area,

isn't it?

Right, for that area.

And we'll just talk about this.

I'm great athletes in this area too.

And I don't know because walkie is all the big time media, but we have plenty here.

It's just I want to ask you because that's the 80s and Don Davies really going on to be quite the financial wiz, you know, he's a consultant and I mean,

Amazing he's amazing didn't make big big money I mean, but he is really parlayed that into

he's made a lot of money for other guys though Yes, I mean that's

what he does.

He's just a smart guy And I think that's great that these people have careers after and I he's the guy that I know the best that you covered But I want to ask Christian do you think about that or is it like next year?

I mean like where years you had that right now in terms of I mean you're 18 years old for God's sake Do you think of life down in 20 years or you just really thinking of life in the next?

two months or what?

I mean, sometimes I do.

I think of the future.

But I think right now, I'm really focused on football.

And I mean, obviously, I got to keep my academics up.

But right now, I got to focus on football and keep that keep that my number one for now.

But you're fortunate

in that the academics, you're not going to struggle with that.

You know, I

mean, like, I think there's some people that are good athletes, it's like, hey, and they need that.

What do they call that like not student advisors, you know, they give you that John you yeah tutors John you hit those Wild guess,

but I think you if you got Hey, if you saw my 2.7 my tutor failed

All right, so yeah, you got we got a great four years coming up right I mean

Probably a terrific four years coming up, you know, stay healthy and, you know,

or five.

Yeah.

I mean, so many kids these days take that extra year.

Yeah.

Hey, Tom, going, looking back on your era, covering sports here in this area, and obviously the Packers were terrible.

Isn't it funny how you and I go back to the days of being in the trenches, standing out there in those practices and forest, Greg and the whole thing.

People that are younger around here, like somebody like Christian has never experienced.

Horrible Packer teams like we used to cover.

Isn't that crazy looking back at what we used to deal with?

Well, that wasn't a very good era for Packer football and back in that day We always got to go into the locker room for interviews to like not Not now where there's as much where they bring a style player or whatever So, you know, you just kind of fixed around the locker room if you were a newspaper guy anyway

But yeah, so it's totally different.

I did want to mention about academics and Don Davy.

He was a mechanical engineering major at Wisconsin.

Yeah, I talked to him once and he was disappointed because he had an A minus in a class.

Unbelievable.

High school through college, the guy was just like all his A's and stuff.

Such a good guy we've had him on the show here number time.

He's just a wonderful human being which is really cool

Yeah, I've been friends with his family to his mother actually used to work at our newspaper part-time So when Don was a little kid he'd bring in his football pole for his mom and oh wow That too so you know here I saw this kid growing up from you know walking in their office and doing things to becoming this

you know, style player and, and all

that.

We're talking about how many years has a sports writer

taught?

It was, um, from about 21 and a half years, a sports editor for the last 20 plus of that, about a year or so into sports writing me, you know, have me become the sports editor.

So then I moved to

Delevin here and was the overall editor of some weekly newspapers here for about 11 and a half more years I

gotta be honest.

It's

sad when I drive past that building in Manitowoc That was such a great paper and what has happened to newspapers in general?

Oh That was it that's been tough, you know, I love the building that was a cool It's a great

building.

Yeah, but I still think there's some sports writers that are just

Better than sports broadcasters and this kid that likes you the Scott Vinci He's a big big fan of yours Christian and I just like reading his stuff.

I just think it's a little bit There's I mean there's not I'm not taking anything away from TV But I I like to read stuff because there's not commercials, you know, I can just grab the paper

I read it

and he's written some I've read a bunch of your stuff the last few days I mean I read it when it came out, but you know, I he's the

best he could go any place

Well, and I think he's not and I think he's just really honest, you know, sometimes these guys

are too critical because they want a name for themselves.

They're too nice and they're not really feeling the story.

And I just think he's very fair.

And

we got to talk about reporting.

Do you have to run right now?

I'm not staying.

OK, stick around.

We got Tommy Yellow, longtime sports reporter, manager.

We've got Christian Collins, unbelievable high school football player, back after this.

in the state of Wisconsin, Christian Collins in the house heading out to play for the Panthers of Northern Illinois, excuse me, Northern Iowa.

We've got Tom, my yellow longtime sports reporter for the Manitouac Herald Times.

And Tom, I hate to say it because I was a journalism major.

I don't know if I would advise anybody to go into that field these days.

Would you?

Well,

you know why

why because there's so many fewer opportunities.

There's so many fewer newspapers I mean everything's online now

and I

guess but but you know what I mean Tom I mean that was a real I don't want to say prestigious But that was a pretty cool profession back in the day.

Wouldn't you agree?

Yeah, I think so that that was You know big for me that I knew from high school on what I wanted to do and you know back when I started they were just using

typewriters and scanning the pages and you know then it went to computers and then it went to doing our own pagination so it took a you know a lot of changes but with that it also cost some departments some people you know positions so that was a tough part of that as well but um but yeah i think now people are finding other ways to put out the news and

You know, I've had some calls and things too, people asking about, you know, doing online stuff.

So I think that's kind of the way it's been going.

But yeah, the true old newspaper is one of my very good friends from high school, still one of my best friends is Chuck Salaturo.

And he was the sports editor of the Milwaukee Journal before they merged.

And then he left them to become like a senior editor at ESPN.

So

There's different outlets, I guess.

You know, these are different people, but he had a pretty long run being the person behind the scenes of a lot of real good shows on ESPN.

But, you know, the delivery of the information hasn't changed, has changed a lot, but the demand for it is higher than it's ever been.

I mean, people love, it's unbelievable what the NFL and some of these teams pull in financially.

It's just, I can't get over how many

when John and I talked about getting this show off the ground, you know, there's a lot of sports stations out there right now.

And one of the reasons we kind of picked this niche is there's not a lot of local.

I agree with

that, Jeff, but I'm just saying, I think Tom would agree with me that the big time sports writers in the state of Wisconsin were like big time celebrities, like a Bud Lee, where they carried so much weight, their words.

Remember, Tom?

Yeah, definitely.

Bud's column was, you know, how so much to read there.

There are several others like that.

You know Green Bay had a couple that ended up going to Milwaukee, but like a cliff crystal or Bob McGinn, you know From a packer standpoint and the sports standpoint those guys too were standouts But yeah, we'd have our Associated Press sports editor's meetings and there are some big names, you know, that's cool.

I

mean, that's that's gone by the way Yeah,

yeah

But, Tom, when you look back on it, how has the media changed?

Has it gotten, because Jim and I have talked about this, and Jim's had a few battles with the media over the years, or whatever, whatever.

I mean, everybody doesn't.

Right, Christian?

In politics.

But it's like, where is it right now?

Is it too caustic in some ways?

It's a little bit hard to follow at times, because they're coming in with different views.

I used to write a column also, um, every week, a pioneering column.

And, you know, I sometimes it was just, you know, certain topics, but other times I tried to push a point on something.

And, but it was stated as bad as a column.

And now it seems like it just comes out in general reporting, like, you know, the team networks, especially you'll see.

You know, they're obviously aligned with, say, a political party or a movement, and that's so different to me, because we're real.

I'll give, if I can give one quick non-sports example.

You know, when I became the editor here,

Paul Ryan used to make regular stops twice a year at least to come by the office for interviews and once my man is out by his mobile unit and I guess he was asking my editorial assistant if she knew who I voted for, what party I was for, whatever, and she said, you know, I worked for him for three and a half years and I really don't know.

And I guess Ryan thought about it for a while and said, I guess that's a good thing.

It's a great

thing.

That is the greatest compliment you

can get.

Yeah.

No, you don't.

Old school ones.

Yeah, it does.

You got a nonpartisan.

I will say, I don't think the reporters, and I don't want to, well, I guess I am going to criticize someone in this next statement.

I just don't think they're as knowledgeable as they used to be.

They come in and they're young, and I think they want to be on TV.

They were in ballet or whatever, or they played in their cheerleaders.

And I'm like, you know, but they ask these questions that, I mean, come on.

I mean,

It's like, really, you're asking me that?

And I think that hurts them more than it hurts me.

I mean, I've given the answer whatever they want.

But I just think if a reporter would, you guys, you guys, you, Johnny, bunch of you guys are just extremely knowledgeable, Cliff Crystal.

I mean, and I just think people appreciate good questions.

That's my point on today.

I think it's just, I think, I don't think it's as, I don't know what the word I'm looking for.

No, I

think you're exactly right.

And Tom, I think that's also a compliment of the people that...

were our mentors, right?

Wouldn't you agree?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think so.

Um, you know, I, I thought it was just the responsibility there.

We were talking to somebody the other day and I said, yeah, like half our new staff, I also had a lot of input with when they were newer and coming in or they would move from sports to news.

And I just thought that was important to keep.

keep them going with the journalistic part.

And I think one

other thing, and it's no secret, but there's just, you don't get, this isn't a really high-paying industry, but I think if your passion's there, you can figure it out.

You know what I mean?

I used to remember my daughters in journalism, and I had her sit down with a friend of mine, and he's like, I don't know, stay away from this, there's no money in this thing.

That's not what you kids care for anymore.

I mean, you don't care about money.

But that's why you had that slush fund with a cardboard box under your bed.

Hey, Tom, my yellow has been great

having you on my

pie side.

Christian, you stick around.

You're the best.

Appreciate it,

Tom.

Take care, buddy.

We'll get us

in a quick break.

Back in place.

Yeah,

that'd be great, actually.

Christian Collins are very special.

He wants you here now so he can see you on camera.

Is that correct?

Yep.

Thank you Conrad.

Wow.

When's Todd coming back tomorrow?

Tomorrow, yes.

Slave driver.

Slave driver.

We're the Christian Collins who had one of the most amazing high school football careers I've ever seen in my life and I've covered in sports since ever, forever.

Tell me what it was like in that state championship game when you gained, what was it, 400 yards?

Yeah,

408 yards.

408, that's mind boggling.

You know, I was just watching a really good special on Barry Sanders.

And when he gained 2,000 yards or whatever, and...

You know it was one of those things where it goes you just you just get out there and sometimes you're just in some kind of a groove and everything is moving slower for you then I mean did it have that kind of a feeling can did you have any feeling going into that game that?

Okay, this is my day.

I mean absolutely That's that's how you kind of going got to go into every game.

All right You got to got to go and think that you're that you're gonna do that you're gonna do your job and do it well, so I don't know that's just kind of how I thought and I mean every game

Like, there's a lot of news writers that said, like, every game got better and better and

better.

Right.

And every game just felt like almost easier and easier and easier.

Which normally is just the

opposite.

Right.

It is.

It is.

It's just

like- Because the competition level gets harder and harder and harder.

Our team as a whole got better and better and better and better.

Like, there's just no- there's no plateau.

Like, we just kept on getting better and better.

It was great.

Did you guys know you could be- I mean-

I remember when you were a junior, I think we televised one of your games, and you guys were like, okay, you know.

But for what you guys put together down the stretch last year was incredible.

What was the key?

I think the key was just our overall willingness to win, or overall eagerness to win.

We just wanted to win so bad, and we just knew what we needed to do, because last year we lost in the level four.

We just knew what we needed to do, what it took.

And we had such great practices.

We had a rain practice the week before our grafting game.

And because we didn't want to lose them.

I mean, we were a little nervous because we were going

in and

we were like, oh, this team's good.

Every year they turn out somebody D1.

Every year.

They have some offensive linemen or defensive linemen that go D1

consistently.

I mean, we would.

We had an amazing like Friday practice right before the game.

It was raining and I think it was the best practice we ever had it It was you could just tell the tempo.

We were gonna win that game.

Isn't that great?

It was

amazing now heading into college going to northern Iowa, which is big-time school big-time competition early on

Everybody tries to kind of show their stripes.

They're gonna be hitting as hard as possible They're gonna be doing whatever then things kind of weed out though.

What are you expecting?

Cuz there's a big difference between playing at Notre Dame and whatever and then all of a sudden going to big time I mean like you've been said on the schedule Nebraska's on the schedule Wyoming's on the schedule.

I mean, this is the best of the best.

What are you expecting physically?

Absolutely.

I'm well physically I'm expecting I'm expecting a lot

Lot of hard hitting right away.

What do you wait right now 200

200?

Okay.

Yep.

I think that's a good weight I feel like I've I feel like one of my strengths is balance and being able to take a hit so I think You know, I think that's a big thing in High-level yeah football is I think you just got to be able to take a hit and be able to know how how to take it You know, it's because a lot of kids get hurt just from

You can't oh tough everybody at that level,

right?

Yeah, right some guys is just massive You know Yeah, there's there's some there's some really big really big linemen at you and I right now

And you have to see them in person like face-to-face to realize how big some of these human beings are absolutely And you guys okay, so wait wise you're 200.

Is that what you want to play at your like 510 511?

Yeah,

I'll probably I'll probably want to play at like maybe 205 this year.

Okay

tail

back.

Yep.

All right

now when it

How long have you wanted to be a college football player because you know there's so many these camps these days where kids go to them and and sometimes they realize I was a big fish in a small pond and you see the talent level out there.

It's like for yourself.

At what point did you say I could do this.

I could play Division one football.

I mean I've always wanted to be a football player.

I like I've.

like every Halloween or like every chance I get, I would want to be like a college or, you know, like a, I would dress up as a NFL football player.

I

would always be a, um, a Bears player.

I was a big Bears fan.

Okay.

Thanks for being here.

Um, really?

Yeah.

Cause your dad's from Chicago or Illinois.

Yeah.

We lived in Chicago for a long time.

Okay.

Yep.

It's your Peyton.

Who are you?

Uh, actually our dogs named after Walter Peyton.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

That's phenomenal.

Now, heading into college like this, obviously academics are a huge thing.

What would you tell kids?

In case somebody's parents are listening or whomever and their son maybe is, you know, gonna be a freshman or what would you say is the best way to try to prepare it to be where you are right now?

And I'm gonna talk about running for 400 yards in a championship game, but just in general, the journey of every aspect of it from resurrection grade school to, you know, playing for the Panthers of Northern Iowa.

Explain that journey and advice.

Well,

I think that the vast I would give to a kid Maybe starting from eighth grade going to senior year is you got to stick to the weight room That's something and you got to stick to the to the dinner plate, you know, you gotta gotta eat

gotta have a lot of protein and just gotta stay in that weight room.

That's the

biggest thing.

The weight room will take you so far and I feel like that's the main reason where I'm at today is because of the weight room.

And I think the eagerness to practice, the eagerness to get better,

That's just that.

That's

kind of like the equalizer of the weight room, isn't it?

I mean, I'm so old, I remember coaches would tell us not to lift weights because you'd get muscle-bounded.

Even Rocky Blyre, who's four Super Bowl championships with the Steelers, one year he decided he was just going to really work out in the weight room more than anybody else.

And his coach said,

This is ridiculous.

You're muscle bound.

You can't play football if you're muscle bound.

Nobody uses the term muscle bound anymore because it scientifically has become so advanced, hasn't it?

It's not just a matter of, I lift heavy things and I put them down.

That's not it at all, is it?

No, it's not.

No, I think it just enhances your performance, your balance, your ability to run someone over and just being that solid

You know wall going towards someone I feel like that's the that's kind of the key especially as a running back you got to be able to run someone over or even like go

You know like the 510 5 like that kind of drill you got to be able to be agile and all that stuff and all that stuff helps

I think Green Bay and we've talked about this to not just Green Bay northeast Wisconsin I was mentioning this earlier and we had Tom there from the Manitowoc paper talking He just texted me to about some other state championships that they want in that area But I just for whatever reason feel like our area our whole market up here is underrated by the rest of the state for the athletes that we turn out I really I really believe that

I think we are definitely underrated.

I mean, maybe not after this year since,

you

know, Bayport and Notre Dame both went to the state championship.

And we had the two best teams in the state.

I think it was... I would have loved to play him this year.

That would have been a fun

game.

And I had a Westy Pier.

How good they were.

Pecana.

We played

Pecana, our first game.

That was a really close game.

I mean, it was mainly just like a field goal fast.

That was really it.

I mean, I would run down there.

We'd score a field goal.

And that was pretty much the game.

Right.

That was it.

But for whatever reason, the sports casters, sports writers, whomever marketing people in the Milwaukee, Madison area just kind of don't give us this area its due.

And I feel that way even with obviously you made all state and everything like that.

But it's hard sometimes.

And Grayson made all state as well.

But it's hard for those guys to get all state recognition.

Right.

Yeah.

I just think, um, well, unless you're like on the state leaderboard, that's, that's really it.

Right.

Um, but I think that the FRCC, uh, North and South, I think this South

is, I didn't even mention Kimberly.

No.

I mean, it's

like Nina.

I mean, Pulaski's usually pretty decent.

I'm maybe not in the last couple of years, but they're usually,

but I will say this ball, Pulaski, they've got the toughest 162 pound.

They're all 562 pounds and we'll just smack you in the mouth.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yep.

But what do you want to do then down the road?

I mean, obviously everybody wants to play pro football, but you know, it's one and a whatever, whatever.

What would you like to do?

How would you like to turn this football scholarship into a career?

Well, um, I'm looking to do business finance.

So something in that.

that area.

I mean, I'm still kind of exploring my options.

So I think that Northern Iowa will definitely help with that and help me make a decision on what I want to continue.

We're talking about Don Davy.

That's exactly what he does.

And that is so needed in professional sports.

I can't, I could sit here for the next 15 minutes and do nothing but tell you stories of guys that lost every dime they ever had playing pro football.

It's, it's unbelievable.

It's shocking.

how many guys go broke after making half a million, a million dollars a year.

They need, and that's why Don Davy has really, who was it?

I think Yerco or one of the guys where Davy just went off on him because he wasn't, I don't know what it was.

He flew first class or something.

You know what I mean?

One of those things you wouldn't think of.

And he's like, no, you got to be really fiscally sound with every dime you make or you'll be shocked at how quickly it goes.

So I mean, that's a great career if you got into that.

I mean professional career doesn't last forever So you

got to

be able to you know make that money that you make for a shorter period short amount of time You got to make that last so

if you had had your pick, where would you have got college rice to play

ball?

Hmm.

I mean I've thought I Always thought that you know, Texas or like the SEC schools were always so core like Tennessee, you know like watching them like run out of the tunnel and all that stuff That's I was always really fun

I would say probably Tennessee being and running back at Tennessee.

Okay, that

would be probably my number one

86,000 fans every game.

Yeah,

it's just a great atmosphere.

Yeah, you know, I mean when I retire if I ever do retire my Dream or what I'm going to do is I'm just gonna travel around the country and go to a different college football game every Saturday

That's awesome.

And that's what I wanted.

I think there's something about I will I've been to almost every stadium in the NFL and that doesn't really do anything for me college football

the atmosphere of a college football game is unsurpassed.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

How much fun is going to be running out of the tunnel at the uni dome?

It'll be fun.

It'll be fun.

I think they average like 10,000 fans.

So it'll be fun.

It's

a great place.

They actually used to, when I used to do the green big games, we used to play down there all the time.

They had the big thing of Bryce pop was hanging and it's too bad.

He's not there anymore.

But there's a little thing of him hanging there, the big banner.

He's like their most legendary player ever to come on.

They've turned, they've put out a lot of guys in the pros though.

Yeah.

Bryce pop that he reached out to me a few times and when it was recruiting time, like he recruited me and then there was like a dead period.

Then he then he left and then they kind of picked up last minute with the Drake the Drake squad that came in and placed them

You guys you guys got a whole new coaching staff there now, right?

Yeah,

well except I think one Wow except one, you know what that's good though because then there's no You know preconceived type of you know, this guy like this guy better than the other guy guys I'll start him from the fresh.

Mm-hmm.

That's awesome man.

Good for you.

This is cool

All right, we got sort of a quick break with Christian Collins, the number one running back in the state of Wisconsin.

Quick break back after this.

Little sly in the family stone.

Convoy.

Yeah.

Do you even know who's sly in the family stone?

Where?

I didn't until like, I don't know, three months ago.

All right.

So we're educating you a little bit, huh?

I guess so, yes.

Proud of that.

Proud of that.

We're with Christian Collins.

Great having you here.

Top running back in the state of Wisconsin, heading down to Northern Iowa to play college football.

Christian, when you were that young kid at Resurrection School and now you're a scholarship player going Division One.

Tell me some of the things that, again, with parents listening or whatever, tell me some of the things that you look back at now that made a difference to get you where you are.

Well, I think just the support.

for my parents was a big thing.

And my dad always had a lot of good things to say, like mentality wise, mentality was huge.

And attitude, you know, just kind of having that.

That's so important.

It's so important.

I mean, just having the attitude to be able to push through, you know, either adversity or to push through.

You know the down times just having like a bad game absolutely bounce back You know those are the hard things in football or really any sport you got to be able to have that attitude or the ability to bounce back

Tell you what you guys had a good run of coaches or you still do at Notre

Dame.

I mean coach Raider

is great.

Yeah, I mean, that's it.

I still miss coach.

No lock.

He was legendary, but

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I

don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't

know.

I'm really excited.

Mentally, I'm just getting prepared for the first week and kind of just looking forward to it.

I got 10 days left, counting down the days, just getting prepared, getting in the weight room every day for the next 10 days.

Hey, going back, people don't understand.

I shouldn't have used the term meat on the hoof, but that's

the

alter from my era.

But what I mean is,

They pretty much own you.

Yeah.

As far as like almost every minute of the day is scheduled, isn't it?

Once you're

there.

Pretty much.

Yeah.

And I'm not, um, as of right now, I'm not even a scholarship player.

Well, you're going to be.

Well, yes, I, I hope to be, and that's, that's something I got to prove you to the coaches and to myself because, you know, I've been under recruited, you know, ever since.

Right.

Which is my bonding, which is crazy, but go ahead.

I think it's just, for me, it's a way to improve myself, improve my mentality and improve my play just because I can.

That means I still have room to get better.

And that means that I can prove to the others that...

I am worthy of a scholarship.

But you will be judged on everything.

You'll be judged on what you do in study hall.

You'll be judged on what you do in the weight room.

You'll be judged on every practice.

You'll be judged on the mental aspect of football, which at that level is pretty tough in certain ways.

Are you prepared for that?

You will be under the spotlight every second.

Yeah.

I think I'm prepared for that.

I think the months leading up to now, I think I've been preparing pretty well for that.

That's awesome, man.

This is so exciting.

I mean, I wish I could go back 50 years and be in your shoes.

I mean, I just think that's everybody wants an opportunity to play at that level.

And, uh, and you're there and you're 10 days away.

Yeah.

It's really, it's really exciting.

It's so cool.

Yeah.

How's Notre Dame going to be this year?

I think they're going to be pretty good.

Uh, they got to get, um, I don't know who the running back is going to be for sure yet, but, uh, got a new

field going in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's going to be cool.

Yeah.

I wish we had that last.

I mean, uh, it was, it was good to have a state champion chip on that last, last piece of turf.

So it was the oldest turf in the state.

Isn't that something?

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

And I remember when they put that in the first time, it's like, Oh, is this ever cool?

But it's,

it's

incredible.

But, but once again, going back to the game, you had a camp Randall, no, it'll ever be able to take that away from you.

I mean, that's actually the record.

I don't think anybody's going to run for 400.

What did you have 400?

408, 408.

I don't think anybody's going to.

go for 409.

I hope not.

I don't think it's ever

going to happen.

I'm glad you're not playing in the all-star game.

Yeah.

And I mean

that in a way that I've known kids that have got to play in those games and they get hurt and then it kind

of

screws up their whole first year.

And once you're behind the eight ball at that level, they're always going to be bringing in other kids that are pretty good.

And so I'm glad you're not doing that.

And you never know what kind of injury it's going to be.

Exactly.

I mean, I asked the coaches beforehand if it was like

Even worth it.

They said yeah, it's worth it, but it's like the kids go 110% Yeah, you know, it's not like some lax a day's a call our game that people want to be there and have fun It's a game.

It's a hard-hitting game

Yes, cuz I meant for 99% of those kids.

It's the last time they put on pads It's

the

last time they'll put on pair of shoulder pads and they there's no reason to hold anything back, right?

So I'm glad you're not doing that

Yeah, I am too.

I think it was like fun being recognized like thank you and I would have loved to do the fundraiser and all that stuff, but I think it's probably best that I stay away from.

Yeah, you don't need it.

Stay away from injury, you know.

Last thing, give advice.

All the parents listening out there, not that their kids are all going to play D1 football, but just in general, the best advice that you could give to somebody.

Best advice is, you know, just stay humble, stay, be yourself, be true to yourself.

And, you know, just listen to your coaches.

They know what they're talking about.

And hit the weights.

Hit the weights.

Just got to hit the weights.

Yes.

What are you benched?

I benched around 245, 250.

I haven't maxed out in a while.

Me too.

Oh, I thought you said, what are I way?

No, I'm sorry.

Christian College, great having you here, man.

We're going to watch you at Northern Iowa.

We're going to follow your success.

It was so much fun watching you in your high school career.

And thanks for coming in.

And you said it right.

Stay humble.

Absolutely.

Thanks for having me on.

Thank you, buddy.

Convoy.

Yeah, it's been great.

Haven't you?

Yeah, it's it's been a fun six days.

Yeah, I'm excited not to wake up at 4 a.m.

Tomorrow though

But let's be honest people probably said wow you get to go in with John Minow and the former mayor every morning at 6 o'clock Did a lot of people say that to you?

No, I'm not one

yet.

None yet, huh?

No,

they sometimes they might they might

thanks again for the for the golf you bet.

Yes.

Thanks, buddy

Tidal me back in tomorrow, mine or the mayor?

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Yeah!

It's all working?

Con?

Okay.

Con's last day.

Convoy.

Not last day.

It's his last day working with us, because Todd's gonna be back tomorrow.

Well, we'll see about that.

We like Con better.

We're gonna take a vote.

Convoy.

Yes.

You're

John Maino

right there.

I'm doing good.

Yeah.

John Maino

Happy Tuesday.

I called, I got here and I called Conn.

I didn't see him here.

I'm like, dude, you know, where are you?

He's, I didn't even look out the window.

He's sitting in his car eating breakfast.

Like, oh, okay.

So he was here early, but having-

John Maino

What does a Conn have for breakfast?

No, he's a healthy guy.

Get this.

I asked him.

I thought for sure it was a McDonald's drive-through.

Uh-uh.

Conn?

Watermelon, right?

It was watermelon and I had some scrambled eggs.

That's- Ooh, that sounds weird, the watermelon and scrambled eggs.

It's a little weird, a little weird, a little weird.

Well, watermelon's my favorite fruit, so I- Okay.

Okay.

Enjoy with everything rambled eggs.

That's kind of healthy though.

I think really

he might be on to something there con Well, you know you eat that you eat the watermelon and then don't eat together obviously.

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Oh, I thought it was kind of like mixed together.

No I thought okay,

we're in a hurry.

We only take so many spoonfuls.

So spoonfuls would you come

on?

We're old you have to be

right right as long as it's well

eggs and watermelon on the side,

okay?

That's great.

That's

That's good.

That's good.

You know

I've been eating?

What why do you always do that cuz it's you know, it's funny cuz I was talking to somebody yesterday.

She goes, you know, you guys sure talk about food a lot It's the nourishment

John Maino

of life

one night it was I did what she said I said, well, we're we're working on a plan we're on a we're on a program So anyway, yes, but hey, I'm gonna try something today, too, and I get home this morning, but

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no so anyway, okay?

Here's what I eat get back to all right.

I'm 211 by the way not bad not horrible

What

John Maino

No that, just wait.

That's

good isn't it?

John Maino

That's okay.

I was

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down at 209.

Oh you're

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tonight.

Put a couple on quickly.

Yeah.

Okay so I told you I want to get up.

You know I've

John Maino

been drinking, I shouldn't say this.

No don't drink alcohol man.

Mm-mm.

Oh then I won't say it.

John Maino

Yeah.

So anyway, but now here's what I've been eating.

Okay?

John Maino

Mm-hmm.

So I get these frozen chicken breasts from um, Aldi I think.

Yeah that's fine.

Okay.

Um.

They have good meat there actually.

They buy right.

Yeah.

They buy a lot of their beef comes from AFG, which is really, really good beef.

So

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anyway, swing.

OK, so chicken breasts.

All you got to do is put them in the microwave for 10 minutes.

I don't like microwave chicken, but OK.

John Maino

OK.

I don't know how to use an oven, Jim.

I told you that.

That's true.

You're right.

So Mike,

I don't want to

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fry it because I feel like it's going to stink up my place.

Like

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fry stuff.

Then frying garlic.

Do you like to smell garlic?

I love garlic.

OK.

You have that stuff that's ground up already, don't you?

John Maino

Yeah, those little jars.

Don't buy a little jar.

That's too expensive.

Buy the bigger jar.

They ain't cheap, I'll be honest with you.

No, that little jar is like $4.99.

You get a big jar for like $7.99.

So it's probably three or four of those little jars.

So yeah, you get a big jar, especially if you use it.

And I like garlic too.

John Maino

Oh, I do, yeah.

That's my

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favorite.

Yeah,

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that's

good to see.

But anyway, but listen to me.

This is healthy.

John Maino

I'm helping people.

I heat it up for 10 minutes in the microwave, the chicken.

Then,

oh god,

John Maino

can I continue?

Can I just?

Okay, I don't know, man.

Why don't know why you're not?

Do you have an air fryer?

Do you have an air fryer?

No.

Do you have an air fryer?

That's chicken in the microwave.

That's the best way to cook it.

Why don't you bake it?

John Maino

Just let me know.

Conn, let me know when he's done.

What are you saying, Conn?

Would you take a frozen chicken breast and put it in the microwave?

Well, no, I know

you heat up food in the microwave.

That's why they're that's what they're for.

I mean, I would I would thought before anything.

Yeah.

Well, you know what, you're not me.

All right.

I just think you have other resources.

John Maino

Can I just finish?

OK.

John Maino

So I take I put in the microwave for 10 minutes.

OK.

Then I put it in the frying pan with olive oil.

I cut it up into small cubes.

Yeah.

Cubby old type things.

And I put it in the frying pan with olive oil.

OK.

and eggs and jalapeno peppers.

And I put some of the jalapeno juice in there to

cook it.

Okay, that's good.

All right, that's good.

That's good.

I don't know why you wouldn't do the whole thing like that.

What do you mean?

Why are you putting the microwave?

Just cut the chicken into cubes.

You know, slice the chicken breast in half because it's too thick.

Right.

Cut it up in cubes.

put it in with the just do it in the frying pan

John Maino

well okay well because eggs only take like two minutes versus cooking at the chicken

who says you gotta put everything at the same time just put what else you're gonna do put the chicken in first wait till that gets you know almost done and then throw the eggs in and then put some lettuce you put some lettuce spinach in there no that'd be good some tomatoes no jalapenos oh jalapenos that's good but the garlic

John Maino

juice

is really good to cook eggs with is what I'm saying yeah it's

a little vinegar

John Maino

yeah

that's not bad no I don't get the microwave thing though but anyway what do you mean I don't know why you're using the microwave because that makes the chicken more rubberous because

John Maino

I don't want to get

food

John Maino

poisoning

how's that uh I do it my way you wouldn't get food poisoning it cooks it's just that it cooks first so you don't this is the reason why you don't

This is the reason you use microwaves.

You don't know that you could cook the chicken first and then add the jalapeños and eggs later.

But you could.

That's what you should do.

And you should throw in a teaspoon of garlic.

Yeah, I

John Maino

would.

Yeah, garlic, I would.

If I had the garlic.

But it goes

through

John Maino

so fast.

That's one of those things where you buy it and it's like you use it twice and it's gone.

Excuse me, you buy that little jar.

I know.

John Maino

I know.

I'm just saying.

But anyway, throw it out of myself.

That's much better than...

a lot of other stuff you've shared with us.

So yeah, good.

John Maino

I pretty much don't drink anymore.

What?

Do you get that kind of like you think that's definitive?

I pretty much don't drink anymore.

John Maino

But when I do, did you drink a lot?

No,

I

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don't.

I only buy little bottles.

I like buy

the little bottles.

That's more expensive too.

Hey, you're always talking to me about, you know,

Okay, whatever.

All right.

I'm just saying I'm trying to help you a little bit,

John Maino

but you know, it is a really good summer drink.

Actually, I did this last night, sat out of my patio where it was 116 degrees.

Okay.

I thought, you know what song I kept thinking of?

Um, hot child summer in the city, back to my next getting dirty and gray.

Red and pretty, right?

Remember that?

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

John Maino

Yeah.

So anyway, that Tennessee whiskey, Tennessee Convoy, what's the name of that stuff?

It's kind of like a red ball.

It's a Jack Daniels, but it's, it's a red label.

Yeah, that's expensive Jack is

John Maino

Jack fire.

That's why I only buy yes Jack fire.

That's why I only buy real little bottles

What Because this is what he does con he'll go by eight little bottles He could buy one big bottle and have like 12 to 13 little bottles, but he doesn't think like that But the probably it's better for you.

You know what?

I'll take that back.

It's better for you to buy the little bottles.

Because if you have a big bottle, you might drink too much.

I watch.

I know.

OK.

So I was like discipline in the little.

John Maino

Yes, I'm disciplined.

What I got big bottles of vodka and no,

John Maino

I got little but the biggest bottle of booze I've had is the one that you gave me at your Christmas party.

Yeah, I I OK.

John Maino

I don't.

Yeah, I don't drink.

So that's I know you

John Maino

don't.

All I'm saying is it's a perfect summer drink.

So what was in there?

Just that, just that.

I just drink it right out of the bottle.

I thought

you were going to tell me that you remember that bar we went to and they kind of grilled the lemons.

And yeah, it was like smoked.

John Maino

Yeah, I do.

Where was that?

Was

that?

That was good.

John Maino

Was that Zamboles?

Zambinis.

No, I don't think they have a girl in there.

Where was that?

That was good.

That's they did kind of took a lemon.

And I think it was like I could have been.

Vodka, I'm not sure but then they you're right.

They took the lemon and oh They

John Maino

brought

it here.

They

John Maino

brought it here,

and it was it's it was like a smoked Yeah, vodka tonic.

It was really expression

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lemon.

Yeah

That was good.

John Maino

Who was that?

That would be a perfect summer

that would be a great course.

You could have a grill though on your deck.

Can you know I?

Just use a candle or something even

That's my favorite I could maybe you know, we live close enough.

I could run some Oh

John Maino

my gosh,

that was that was a good good

John Maino

thinking about that, but I refreshing they brought it.

Yeah,

John Maino

you're right We didn't go out get a text here Jim is quite snarky this morning and that's from snarky Brian Wow.

Yeah.

All right.

John Maino

What does that say

something?

Brian.

I'm getting ready.

You are the educator I have to teach today at 8 30, so I'm kind of getting getting ready for the students.

That's why I'm snarky We've ever flunked anybody No, I

Well, it's like, drop this class or I'm going to flunk you.

Oh, OK.

One of those things.

So they drop because they don't want that on the record.

D's, I think I told you at TC, they don't transfer.

A lot of kids go to TC, save a little bit of money, go there for one or two years, then transfer to GB.

And, you know, these, yeah, that that's too bad.

John Maino

You know, isn't that crazy,

though?

John Maino

When you look back on things, and I did it this, I did it this.

Believe it or not, the one smart thing I've done in my lifetime was going to a junior college, a community college first.

It's the exact same classes that I would have had at Arizona State University for 10 times the amount.

It was still English 101

or

John Maino

whatever, whatever, for a tenth of the amount.

And sometimes like at TC, they'll help you with some remedial things at no cost.

Like I say, look, you're not, you really should, you should be a little bit more advanced in math and they'll like coach you along.

They have great

student support at that place.

So, but, I mean, if you can, a D, yeah, and that's too bad.

I felt bad about it and they were all upset about it, but I'm like, what are you

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gonna do?

You know what were great, great classes to have for those kind of things that's not in your major?

The ones where they had a program for teachers, for future educators, where they wanted them to just have some

Knowledge of like like I said that physics class was gonna be that I although I dropped it half way through the syllabus But those types were just to give you a taste of those things.

Yeah, those are good classes Well that

right that's called a that that was one of my

John Maino

concerns I walked out half way through the syllabus,

but I didn't know you did have to do the syllabus What does that mean that does it syllabus is the outline of the course?

Yeah, it's

So you got halfway through the course.

No,

John Maino

I got halfway through the professor going through the syllabus.

20 minutes.

I

John Maino

thought you were talking about four

weeks.

John Maino

20.

It was probably 14 minutes.

Well, through the syllabus.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, that guy

John Maino

just knew it right then.

It's gonna happen.

John Maino

You know what this ain't gonna work.

Yeah, I'm out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Got a text here from Michael.

He says, Jim, I'd love to be a guest professor in your business class.

I'll bring microwave chicken for the students

as a treat.

I tell you what, I'll take half of that.

I will take you as a, I like, I love bringing.

He would be a good speaker.

John Maino

He would be really

good.

Um, although I, you know, yes, I like, you know, I think I'm gonna bring in.

I'm gonna work for him.

Yeah, that'd be a good deal.

Michael's hiring me.

Yeah.

Well, now that he can't respond, I like bringing in guest speakers for like... Oh,

John Maino

can you never ask me?

An hour.

You know who's going to speak at my class is Nick.

I just love side hustle entrepreneurs.

Cheese curd, Nick?

Oh, yeah, that's good.

That dude has his whole business financials on his phone.

Like he, everybody looks at him, like I just, you know, hand him off.

It's like, no, that guy knows what he's doing.

He's got savings and he's going to come in and talk.

I would, yeah, Michael would be great.

Anything that has...

to educate the students on business in the real world.

Because the theory, we have so many books and articles, and even today we gotta watch some video on, it's interesting, today we learn about different types of- Do you ever do film clips?

Remember those?

Convoy.

Do you have film clips?

No.

No, today it's about entities, right?

Soul proprietorship, partnership, LLC.

I could do that.

What You do have your own LLC I did

John Maino

you

okay

John Maino

minor productions,

right?

Absolutely.

That's cool.

We could talk about the advantages and disadvantages to that.

John Maino

Yeah

tax implications.

John Maino

I can tell you the real reason I did that during the break There have been some financial things Convoy, did you get a hold of my buddy?

I screwed up, man.

We've got

John Maino

to get a new board.

Well, that's probably with our board.

So just we need Todd.

All right, we're going to run out of time.

The listeners, we have a board of what's coming up and John didn't know when Wednesday was.

So he kind of filled up Thursday.

I did.

But today I fixed it.

All right.

Put the right stuff on.

We're just going to

John Maino

break.

Back after this.

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John Maino

started.

Yes, you know, okay the next break you don't show on a what?

Okay lawyers guns and money.

I'll see if I can

find

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Warren Zevon great song lawyers guns and money.

I'll find it.

Okay.

Thank you.

Some guy died yesterday.

Some famous musician.

Oh, I don't know.

He played his song.

I don't know.

I never heard his music before.

It was on

who?

I'll look that

up.

Yeah.

Like real famous.

Yeah.

I mean, it was it was a national.

I don't know.

I saw that but

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Suddenly type thing or

yeah, I think so.

I don't know but one of those like bands like like like meatloaf that kind of band Well,

John Maino

he's dead.

Yeah, he died.

Yeah, I met

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him one time.

Did you yeah, you know

John Maino

what?

He was a huge Packers fan

There's a couple

John Maino

those

guys out

John Maino

there that are what oh man was he like a county fair or something like that here um and I interviewed him and

I didn't put it together.

Somebody else, I think, put it together.

His hero was Fuzzy Thurston.

Wow.

Yeah, and he got to meet Fuzzy Thurston.

That was a big thing for him.

That's a big thing for him.

That's cool.

That was his

John Maino

high school football player, and Fuzzy Thurston was his hero.

Hmm.

John Maino

Yeah.

Huge

pack.

You know what?

We have a great, interesting guest coming on, and you're going to take the last half hour with him alone because I'm going to leave.

I wonder who his hero is this Christian Collins.

John Maino

Yeah What he did in that state championship game last year was beyond anything I've covered sports

since

John Maino

you know 1910 and I've never seen anybody have a single game like he had

Did like I don't I he's my neighbor, right?

I mean I know him and his brother and his dog all the time But I read about him last night a little bit.

Wow Amazing That this guy is

highest in the state of Wisconsin and all record keeping for yards.

And that game was unbelievable.

Yeah, he's a super nice kid.

I mean, that's how I know him.

I think that's great when great things happen to great people.

Anyway, so he's coming on at eight.

Talk to him.

Hero is.

Besides you, besides you.

John Maino

Actually, I spoke with our boys from channel 26, channel 32.

We're doing high school football again this year.

So that'll be fun.

We're actually getting ready to shoot our pre-game show.

and uh that's you know what that people i get this all the time hey planar you're still doing this god you're like 80 years old to be able to it's like i don't care that's something i still there's something about friday night football that i still there's something about high school sport i wouldn't do it for the packers i wouldn't do it for

yeah

John Maino

college but high school

yeah they're working

John Maino

yeah just the whole atmosphere i still love

did you did you do

Any Notre Dame's games or isn't that part of your network?

No,

John Maino

we

didn't.

John Maino

Okay.

Well, it is, and they're on our schedule this year, but just by chance, for whatever reason, they weren't on our schedule last year.

Who picks them?

Do you go into those meetings?

John Maino

Ted pretty much does it.

Huh.

Yeah.

He follows.

I mean, he studies that like you can't believe.

So.

Do you have a spotter?

for like the with the binoculars because you

John Maino

know, to be honest with you, the booths are so small.

You can't really.

We're still

John Maino

talking behind you.

Ted's such a big body.

My God, Ted is like six foot eight.

He just takes up a lot of space.

There's there wouldn't be room in 95 percent of the booth.

There wouldn't be room for another person.

Well, yeah.

John Maino

Yeah.

OK.

John Maino

But I love it.

Oh, yeah, you do.

You know who our spotter is at times?

Mark Houston.

Oh, yeah.

He's a good guy.

Oh, my God.

John Maino

Mark sees everything.

And so Mark's kind of like our spotter when he's

at

John Maino

times.

Yeah, that's gotta be fun.

It is just the atmosphere.

Did you have to go through like a big assessment?

Like you can't gamble, right?

On high school?

No.

Didn't you tell me one time that like to do a sports announcer, you have to fill out this form and you gamble and I thought they asked a

John Maino

lot.

Oh, no, that was for the Wisconsin herd.

Oh, that's an NBA thing.

Oh, NBA.

That's through the NBA.

That's why I didn't do it.

I'm serious.

That's why I said, I'm out.

I wouldn't do it.

I know, right?

Take my phone away.

John Maino

Yeah.

Actually, you know, it's so funny.

I got to show you something.

This isn't good.

A buddy sent me a picture that he took of me in high school.

You see it?

Yeah.

I know.

You're going to your reunion in two weeks?

I don't

John Maino

know.

With the lunch lady?

John Maino

Yeah, I don't know if I'm going

or not.

Hang on.

Okay.

You want to sing in high school?

Not really, but hey,

John Maino

who are

you?

Which one are you pointing?

John Maino

I'm the guy throwing the pass.

Oh, it looks like you're pointing.

John Maino

No, see the balls appear.

Oh, you already threw

it.

Yeah, hands down.

Oh, that's that's great, John.

Good form.

Good form.

Is that a why do you have that with you?

John Maino

Oh, he was a photographer and he's going through all things got like a thousand pictures of stuff that he took over the years.

You know, it's cool about that.

I just I'm doing that right now.

Let me tell you what this is something you can do.

I was going through my phone and just some pictures of because it goes back when I wanted to get my phone 20 years.

and you can just click the pictures and send them and they print them for two cents each.

Print them, what do you mean print them?

Like they'll send them back to you, print it.

And then what you do with them is you just take that and that becomes like a postcard, just write the address on the back and hey, and you can send like, I would print that out, send it to you and say, hey John, good times, see you at the reunion.

John Maino

You're not very impressed by that picture.

No, I'm not, I'm more

John Maino

impressed

with the concept.

John Maino

You're not the slightest bit impressed with that.

She'll let the con at the break and see Convoy.

Maybe I'm missing something.

He's got to work over there.

Let him alone.

Let him alone.

John Maino

Got this, Johnny.

I want to broadcast a game with you.

I'd be a good color commentator, Michael.

Absolutely.

Yeah, he

John Maino

would be.

He's so knowledge.

He is.

John Maino

Wow.

You know, that,

that could work.

Yeah.

John Maino

I'd

do it in the heartbeat.

Yeah.

So you don't pick the games though.

Okay.

I know that.

John Maino

We got it.

We got the schedule lined up though for this year.

All right.

That'd be fun.

I just can't announce it yet.

We're going to be announcing it.

We're doing our extra.

We're shooting our pregame special at Little Shoot High School.

That's a cool point.

You know what?

Those little towns are so under I mean God bless happened.

We talked about it Nina, whatever the little shoots the grand shoots, right?

Cucanas, they're cool little towns, aren't they?

I mean, they

got

John Maino

their own identities.

They do and they, you know, they work together.

That's one of the she's fest where all the money went back to public public parks.

That's very, very cool.

So

John Maino

what have you got, Con?

No, you didn't you fail.

No, I got it.

John Maino

I got it.

I got it coming up After this after this break, I got it.

Don't worry.

Let's get

John Maino

some coffee

Who's this

John Maino

orange even lawyers guns and money?

Keep it up.

Keep it up.

Keep it up.

Is his birthday or what?

John Maino

No, he's dead Turn it up con These kids right

All

right, let's get to our guest she's awesome.

Come on.

She's gonna be good.

John Maino

All right Pam Yankee.

Good morning

Pam Jahnke

I'm, I'm with you.

John Maino

Turn it

off.

We'd rather listen to you.

You got so much going on to share it with our listeners and with us.

John Maino

Midwest Farm report.

Yes.

When we had you on the other day and we just kind of scratched the surface when you were talking about something which was so.

like compelling it's like and it's about the mental health of people in agriculture.

It's mental health awareness month for men.

So we were talking about that and then it's like people talk a lot about different industries and people don't really think about corporate thing or divorces and all that but people don't really think about

The entrepreneur the farmer the risk they take and there's some issues there and Pam you want to just we started talking about them around at a time You want to pick up?

Right

John Maino

where we were if you don't mind Introduce yourself tell everybody what

I thought everybody knew sorry

Pam Jahnke

sure I Happy to do it.

Happy to do it.

Yeah, so they call me the fabulous farm babe.

I'm Wisconsin-born Dairy kid from O'Connell County that struck it

Lucky to find her passion.

Sharing the stories about Wisconsin agriculture.

I've been doing it for a couple decades now I am the farm director of the Midwest farm report network that's heard on civic media We've got 40 radio stations across the state that we're sharing our stories with every day Monday through Friday in our website newsletter etc doing all that kind of stuff and Like I said, just love trying to help people better understand agriculture today.

It's not the bibs and

you know, pick a toothpick in the mouth, red barn, white picket fence that many people have been led to believe looks a whole lot different today.

And we like to remind people about

those changes that have happened.

Still 98% of Wisconsin is family farms.

So no matter what you drive past, no matter how big that dairy barn may look, it probably is multi generations that are there, which can lead to some of the stress that we're talking about.

So the first thing I want people to realize is that farmers, specifically male farmers, are one of the highest risk for suicides that we have in the United States.

They are two times

I believe more likely to commit suicide than any other demographic.

And part of what you brought up is part of the reason why most of what agriculture involves are beyond the control of an individual farmer, namely weather.

You know, right now this morning, I'm using our text line and we're talking a lot about the rain.

Toma this morning, checking in with seven into the rain.

Fondlec this morning picked up

more than two inches of rain, power out.

If you're like me, I need air conditioning, so do our cows, so farmers are waking up trying to deal with that.

The other reason why farmers seem to fall into a very high risk category for suicide, a couple different things.

In Wisconsin, we're really comfortable with alcohol.

It's kind of just the way a lot of us grew up.

The other thing is in agriculture, we're pretty familiar with firearms.

Hunting obviously is something that a lot of people in Wisconsin enjoy.

Farmers are part of that category.

So when you put the two together and then you put in commodity prices, we cannot control.

Weather that we cannot control.

Dynamics of being very much alone in agriculture.

There was a time when husband and wife or maybe the kids were always around.

Now a lot of these farming operations, it's kind of just me, myself and the dog.

or maybe it's another employee, but not many neighbors around that we have to share.

thoughts with.

So we really noticed a severe downturn in mental health in the entire agricultural community happened during the pandemic.

Farmers are so generally social creatures.

They like to be with each other while all of our farm conventions were canceled.

Sports, they love to get out and support the kids at sports.

Well, that's not happening.

Church, another foundation that a lot of agriculture leans on while we're not really going to church or we're not interacting the same way.

So all of a sudden that ice

I know my husband's an agriculture as well and Even to go out and visit a farm as an agribusiness The protocol that was in place meant that you had to stay six feet away from that farmer So, you know that that just it puts an awkward space in and and again lend to

that mental health concern that we've got for agriculture.

Now the good news is when we open Pandora's box during the pandemic, we also realized the shortage of tools that were available not just for Wisconsin farmers but farmers in general.

And that's when we really saw funding start to stream in for services that are kind of designed not just for farmers but for their families as well.

You know, think about it.

Farm families face not only the stress of being in agriculture, but they face the stress that a lot of families deal with in general.

Alcohol abuse, domestic abuse, drug problems in rural communities, that may be part of the mix here.

So the Wisconsin Department of Ag Trade and Consumer Protection really championed a couple different things that Wisconsin farmers have been able to lean on.

The first is always the Wisconsin Farm Center hotline.

Now that's housed within the Wisconsin Department of Ag, Trade and Consumer Protection.

It's a fantastic staff that does a lot of different things.

They are not only about your mental health, but they're also counselors in farm finances.

Maybe you can't figure out how to make ends meet.

They will help you when it comes to dairy questions.

Maybe cows are just stumping you as far as why they're not producing or why they're sick.

They'll help you there.

They will connect you with attorneys if you're looking at a transition or generational planning.

Just a lot of things in one spot.

And that number is 800-942-2474.

Again, that's 800-942-2474.

Or you can also send them an email, farmcenterat...

Wisconsin dot gov.

Now they handle, they handle calls and emails during normal business hours.

There's

John Maino

another jump in real quick on one quick thing here.

When you mentioned tools, I mean, just you weren't talking about that literally, you're talking about legal and mental type of health type of tools that are available to those people.

But with that being said, aren't they kind of an independent breed of people

too

Pam Jahnke

proud?

John Maino

Yeah.

Pam Jahnke

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, that's probably our biggest that's honestly boys That's probably our biggest obstacle right there is number one For that individual to admit that they need help.

Yeah, because we are very much And and you know this to be true you guys are you guys are from Wisconsin in agriculture.

It's all about Come on tough not.

Yeah, you lace up your boots.

Yep, get up get out there

work it off, that type of thing.

And like I said, I grew up in agriculture.

This is my whole life.

And I understand that stigma to get especially a male to admit that they need help is paramount to trying to find, you know, get answers.

But boy, oh boy, I have had too many stories where getting them to admit that never happens.

And then the family suffers a loss.

And like I said, sometimes it's been happening over years.

It's not a one incident.

It's not a barn fire.

It's not a farm accident.

It's not one incident.

It's something that seems to generally build over time.

And then finally, it's just somewhere they reach a tipping point.

But you're exactly right.

And those counselors that I mentioned at the Wisconsin Farm Center are trained to listen for keys.

for tells, something in your voice, something that you say.

I had a really eerie conversation with an insurance agent the other day.

Now, remember, I am immersed in agriculture.

This is all I do.

And he just came up to me and he said, hey, Pam, keep doing what you're doing.

He said, yeah, I just had a guy call me the other day wanting to know about the value of his life insurance.

And he said that automatically set off sirens.

He said, when somebody calls and asks about life insurance, he said, I automatically start kind of rallying resources around them so that they have people paying close attention to them.

Because generally, the only reason why a farmer is inquiring about something like that is they are starting to mentally plan to take care of, and they want their family taken care of.

They want the farm taken care of.

You have a farm, you

know.

I say to me that you talked about the pressures of, you know,

uncontrollable forces, the external, the weather, the commodity pricing, the isolation.

But the pressure on me would be to kind of screw up or mess up or lose a generation

Kathryn Lake

of business.

I would

think of my great-great-grandfather

Kathryn Lake

who's

never met, but say, what is he looking down on me thinking?

That would be like, and I've made some money, I've lost some money, but it was always mine.

I just wouldn't want that pressure.

Totally agree.

That would be like...

John Maino

And that's got to be there, huh?

Yeah.

And unfortunately, some of the things we're talking about will never go away.

The weather issues, the whatever, whatever.

Yeah.

That is

John Maino

part of the game,

huh?

But to lose that after four generations, I'd be like, uh-uh.

Oh, yeah.

Pam Jahnke

Well, and, you know, like I said, I am fourth generation on our family farm in O'Connell County.

We still farm.

Now, granted, my broadcast headquarters in Madison, but you will see my truck.

Burning up and down highways all the time when it's time for the cows are gone But we still do cash crops and you're right carrying that mantle of Continuing the legacy of that farm is a big responsibility and the other thing is some when farms are forced through economics or otherwise to sell the cows

Change professions per se.

They may still have the farm, but maybe the cows leave Yeah, the identity of that farmer leaves.

I hear this time and time again if I'm not a farmer What am I that's right?

Yeah, completely completely and I try to tell them you don't realize how good you are a farmer is an accountant a farmer is a nutritionist a farmer is a mechanic a farmer is a

You know, really a community spokesperson.

A farmer is a nutrient manager.

They do so many things in their life farming, but if those cows go, my identity is gone.

And getting them to think beyond milk and cows, beyond plowing fields.

is really a challenge.

And I had mentioned to your producer before, there's a gal named Jess Bochamp.

She actually lives in Abrams.

She is the farmer wellness counselor.

And I've talked to Jess and those questions and those conversations happen often with her.

She also has a free service provided through the Department of Agriculture, but it's a different phone number.

And they're available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Wow.

And the farmer wellness hotline is 888-901-2558.

I'll give it again.

888-901-2558.

And what Jess does is listen.

24 hours a day, seven days a week, you call that number and somebody is going to listen.

Pam, we have to

John Maino

send it to a quick break.

Can you hang on?

We're going to have you back on in two minutes.

Pam Yankee, the Farm Babe Midwest Farm Report.

This is fascinating stuff.

Back right after

this.

Kathryn Lake

You're listening to Civic Media.

Find the latest news, information, and archives of all your favorite shows on the Civic Media website,

John Maino

civicmedia.us.

Swim a lap day.

I'm gonna do that.

If I know

how to do that.

Yeah,

John Maino

we're with

Pam Yonkey and Pam.

Where do you see a swimming lap day?

Where's that?

Where'd you know that?

Under high 72.

See?

Oh.

John Maino

Yeah.

Pam, I just got it.

We just got a text from Vicky.

Pam is from Vic.

Pam J is absolutely crushing it this morning.

Great content.

Thank you for educating us.

So those are the people that are listening right now, Pam.

And you're bringing such important stuff to the forefront.

That we don't talk about.

Right.

That's what you didn't even know about.

No, that's what's cool about this show is we kind of bring some stuff to the surface.

That we didn't know.

Right.

Because we don't know a lot of stuff.

There's a lot of stuff we don't know.

Our listeners know a lot more.

We're just

John Maino

scratching the surface.

Hey, I want to talk about mental health, but I also want to, we just talk about the connections that farmers have that they can't control.

Even this Iran thing, right?

Doesn't that affect farming a little bit?

Do we send product to them?

Pam Jahnke

Exporting.

Lately.

Lately.

since 1970s, not so much.

But I did pull some statistics that I thought were interesting just in case there's a consumer out there that feels a disconnect.

Might want to keep an eye on pistachios.

Iran is the number one pistachio man grower in the world ahead of the United States.

They are also big in certain fruits and raisins, things like that.

I don't see a lot of impact on things like dairy or livestock.

But remember, some of the technologies that we've got in Wisconsin may end up going to Iran, where they are still working to try to make sure that they are food secure themselves.

They do not have as much arable land for agriculture as we have in the United States.

So I'm learning a little bit more there as well.

But like I said, on the short term, not a big impact for Wisconsin agriculture.

But exporting is a big part of their business, right?

Just exporting.

Go ahead.

I just think that export the big part of our business Yeah, that's what I'm saying because I have some friends who are in manufacturing and I think that tariff thing is settling down a little bit But they're like holy mackerel.

Are we gonna these guys could be a customer or not, you know You know that's something else that's out of their control I just you know the more I think about it the less I mean, it's it's great It's rewarding your feet in the community, but I don't know maybe too much risk for me on that and I love I could never do it

John Maino

Hey, Pam, did you see the way I know I asked this last time you're on green and gold.

Is that the name?

Yeah.

Did you see it?

Pam Jahnke

Oh, yeah, I was at the premiere.

John Maino

Oh,

Pam Jahnke

what

John Maino

did you think?

I really enjoyed it.

I mean, it was a little cheesy with the Packer aspect.

But what did you I thought that kind of like boy, it kind of opened my eyes to the fact that if this is based on reality, how farmers and I mean, it's it's serious stuff, huh?

Pam Jahnke

Well, remember it was the reality of the 90s, not today.

Although I am a Die Hard Packer fan and I love agriculture, so those two components were there.

Do not think that the way that Craig T. Nelson was farming outside of Sturgeon Bay is kind of the way we're farming today.

But green and gold, I love it.

I endorse it, support it.

If you haven't seen it, try to watch it because it's a good story.

to get people connected with some of the challenges of agriculture.

John Maino

Yeah, I don't think people use horse and plow anymore the way he did, right?

Pam Jahnke

Correct.

John Maino

Hey, Pam, we're talking a little bit more about it.

We're Pam Yankee here of the Farm Bay Midwest Farm Report.

You are so passionate about this.

I can't think that agricultural people could possibly have a better advocate than you.

Pam Jahnke

Well, like I said, there's a lot of us out there.

I just happen to be lucky enough to be an old broad in this business.

So have built an audience.

You know how it is and half the time in radio or broadcast is just hang on and survive.

Well, I've been very fortunate to kind of be the dodo bird.

You don't see many of me anymore.

So the uniqueness and the specialized area that I talk about is something that people really care about and cared about, especially during the pandemic.

And now I've got a staff of six that are

young enough to be my kids and they are just as passionate, just as excited and just as ready to carry the baton and help people better understand where their food comes from and how difficult any more of these days it is to get it to your table and still find profitability.

Pam, I want to circle back to a few minutes left.

I want to circle back to the services that are offered.

You mentioned two, you give us some 800 numbers that they can contact given really any issue.

Is that all confidential?

Cause maybe they want to call it at night when the brother's not around or the kids aren't around.

Oh, for sure.

Pam Jahnke

And you bring up an excellent point that I hear from the counselors all the time.

Number one, of course it is always confidential, absolutely confidential.

And the other thing is you're right.

Uh, Jess Boatchamp was telling me some of the, her call volumes will tend to go up.

After about 11 o'clock at night, you know when you're you can't get away from your brain and You're by yourself or you're out in a tractor And you're just driving driving driving trying to get crops in or trying to harvest and you're all by yourself That is when a lot of people feel most comfortable to try to open up their soul to a complete stranger That isn't and isn't going to judge doesn't know your background or anything like that.

You are exactly right and quite frankly fellas

I give a rat's derriere when you call.

The catch is call.

Yeah.

Make an effort.

Reach out.

You don't want to leave people behind.

Don't leave people behind.

And if you feel like somebody in your family, I don't care if it's agriculture or not.

If you feel like they're at risk, one thing that I've been told by the trainers is ask them.

Yeah.

Do you feel like you're suicidal?

Because sometimes just that in their face.

question will shake them into reality that they need to reach out or they need to unburden themselves and just but I don't know if I'd have that's a that's a big question you know what I mean so I do so searching myself but it's something to think about Pam

John Maino

we got 30 seconds tell people how they can hear you

Pam Jahnke

Love to Midwest farm report.com.

We've got our podcast playlist We've got a downloadable app and of course any of the civic media partners that we've got you can pick us up every day money through Friday We'd love to share our stories.

Thanks guys.

We love your

John Maino

fantastic.

Thank you for what you do Pam Yankee We get center break back after this

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Here are your hosts John Minow and Jim Smith

John Maino

Thank You con okay, is it working?

Yeah, all right, so convoy Yes, you haven't thanked us Yeah, thank you.

Yeah, we would who gave you a free 18 holes.

I said thank you did not No,

not really

Well, I do I do appreciate that.

I'm definitely gonna use that

so Khan has been filling in for Todd the last but four days, right five six Anyway, so much longer and he gets paid more than we do but we're not gonna bring that up But we are we didn't give him a little thank-you gift Johnny went and it was his idea went but did you drive up there and get

John Maino

it?

Yeah.

Well, that's cool.

John Maino

That's a further drive than you It's like you think of Seymour just being ten minutes away.

Yeah, no

You know what I wanted to stop and buy though?

Bison burgers.

Yeah, there's that that buffalo That buffalo or uh brats buffalo brats.

Yeah, they had advertised.

I've never tasted buffalo

I think buffalo is better meat for you than I

John Maino

would think so

right cuz leaner or something.

Yeah, huh?

John Maino

Conroy, when you go golfing buy me some buffalo broth.

$54 worth.

That's what we spent on

you.

John Maino

Boy, I give those people credit that were off their golfing yesterday though.

Always been

hot.

You know, it's not as busy.

So

John Maino

I know.

Oh, we got this from Terry.

He says, I recommend Pope's Pizza.

We went there last night, had the Supremo and we went to the third floor overlooking the Packer practice field.

Do you think somebody will try to film a practice from there?

You know, years ago, well, they still do it.

They've got those green curtains.

What Terry's saying is

you can see over the green.

John Maino

Yeah.

Yeah, you know what?

That's

John Maino

a good question.

That's

actually that's a good idea.

John Maino

I'm like a viking scout or exactly

go up there and just order a pizza and eat really slow and Act like you're talking on the phone, but I have it videoing.

John Maino

Oh, no.

No.

No,

what you

John Maino

can't act like you can't set

it up.

John Maino

No those glasses that lady had on oh Yeah,

oh, yeah.

Hey, there was a lady on here Terry yesterday from I should put

the

African chamber Fox Valley chamber Fox Valley chamber and they've got these

These glasses that are there the metal glasses, but it's something like I spy or whatever and you and they look good they're Ray bands and you put them on and they can film you just film it They can identify people like identify the person you're talking to and John might know they it's it's amazing what those glasses can do and they'd look they're not like these

John Maino

big frames.

No, you'd never know that was unbelievable

300 bucks Unbelivable

John Maino

350.

Yeah

You know what?

That's what I would do.

I'd stand up there and watch the practice like I'm interested.

I'd wear all packer stuff.

Nobody would know.

Right, so they wouldn't know.

You know, and... You could film the whole practice.

Right, and just with your... Yeah.

Jordan Love Jersey on and I'd bring a couple kids with me so they would not suspect me

John Maino

at all.

Yeah, yeah,

yeah.

You know?

John Maino

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, wow.

I wonder, could we do that and sell it?

John Maino

I don't know, maybe.

I mean, when I was looking for a side hustle, right, that would be a good one.

We have failed so miserably.

Well, no, no, I'm sorry.

I'm backing up.

We have not.

Our people have failed us so miserably in finding us side hustles.

So we're going to go outside our listening area.

We're

John Maino

going to

go film.

We're going to bring our grandkids.

We'll act like grandkids.

We'll just run with a few kids.

Oh my god.

And then we'll

John Maino

have ice cream.

Would you bring my grandkids?

Jumping over that railing.

John Maino

Oh my god, Lord.

Nope.

I think they're so wild.

It's inconceivable,

but then to sell it I don't think that's like legal so we would have to talk to somebody who can get us into the What's that con you're techie that dark web where you can buy and sell stuff Nobody knows who you are the black market the black market.

John Maino

Oh, okay.

Okay, so so we could probably sell it like

you was

John Maino

gonna pay us a lot I got boys.

I gotta tell you this I gotta tell you this so Julie Yeah, call me last night.

She's gonna call from Nikoi Bank

Hmm

John Maino

her credit card was sold on the dark web.

Oh I Don't even know what the dark web is, but it was sold there.

Yeah, is that amazing?

Yeah Yeah, that's pretty deep.

That's just where

John Maino

it does a great job.

I mean they immediately nothing was you know, I we didn't get whatever whatever But isn't that they were told I mean she was told specifically the dark with the term dark web.

I don't know What is the dark web?

I don't even know what's

dark.

They can't trace it, right?

You know, I don't really

Look into that because it kind of freaks me

out.

Okay.

It's like it's like they some people think it's they're the ones like calling all the shots How about that guy?

This is a lot of the guy and some Mormon, you know, uh, Utah kids Went into the dark web as someone else to knock off somebody Can you do that?

Oh, yeah.

How do you do it?

Well, that's that's where they get that murder for hires all on there, right?

Con I mean, that's yeah, huh?

That's where all that stuff happens.

Oh, so that's like the selling this Packer practice for yeah to the Cowboys We wouldn't you know take an ad out in the Dallas Tribune or something We would go through the dark web and all of a sudden we'd get money transferred to us and we would cut.

Yeah, what could some?

John Maino

Wow, but I mean those glasses unbelievable that was so cool.

She told us that yesterday.

She was here.

It's just like

Are you kidding me?

She just pushes this little button, but doesn't it go back to the spy movies or totally smart?

Yeah, the phone and as a shoe,

but they but those things always look geeky guy,

John Maino

but these

things they're so sleek

John Maino

and yeah That was on but I'm gonna get that I tell you what

pay for them pretty quick with this idea.

John Maino

Yeah

Got a text here Patrick Grayson from Weston Pierce senior quarterback signed with South Dakota.

You like that guy.

Oh my god.

He's the best high school quarterback I've ever seen around here.

Yeah,

John Maino

ever.

He's I've never seen a high school kid throw a football like he throws a football.

I'm assuming that's D1.

Oh,

John Maino

yeah.

I mean, like below Wisconsin, but they'll play those kind of teams.

You know, they play.

It's a phenomenal cut.

North Dakota State, North Dakota, South Dakota, South Dakota

State.

Where are buddies going?

John Maino

Yeah,

no northern Iowa.

Yeah,

John Maino

probably

cool.

John Maino

Yeah.

Yeah Got a thing here Chris Vinnie says Minow could finally find his manual labor gig.

He's been longing for on the dark web

Actually,

John Maino

I would do that Vinnie.

I'm still looking for a manual labor job

Yeah, that dark web isn't it

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because I think that will it'll help with my weight loss Which has been going spectacular.

You have to admit that

we talking to con

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both of you

You know what I'm you know what you were a lot of black.

I don't know Yeah,

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I don't like I could I would be so uncomfortable wearing like pink You're wearing pink and peach.

I couldn't do it.

I could not leave the house wearing that color of a shirt.

Why

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I just don't know I'm God I mean,

I I like wearing black so

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cut would you wear a shirt of the color?

He's wearing right now.

Yes, or no,

honestly, I do have a couple of golf polos that are pink Okay

I have a bunch of different colored polos.

Yeah, I have peach pink.

I'm only

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comfortable in dark black-type color.

I don't know why.

It's summer, man.

I still, I don't know.

No, but think about this, Jim.

Hey, you know what I bought?

I don't care.

Listen, I'm down 36 pounds.

Well, OK, that's, you know, I give you too much credit for that.

That was like

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10.

You give me no credit.

It

was 10 years ago during COVID.

So that doesn't really come.

Five.

Five.

Yeah.

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But since we started,

we are going to be on the air two years on

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Wednesday to your anniversary.

We waited.

Michael just told me what job.

Michael's hired me as a home inspector for simple life hospitality.

Thank you, Michael.

That could work.

John Maino

Yes.

Because you know that stuff because you're real estate license.

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Yes.

You're also pretty handy.

That could work for you.

John Maino

Thank you, Michael.

However, if.

Someone doesn't agree with you.

You'd have them up against the wall.

John Maino

So I would not change.

I've not liked that anymore.

Sealed me.

Yeah, a lot of people change when they get to be 65.

That's that's when people make their, or whatever, 67 how old you are.

They, no, that wouldn't be a bad job for you.

That'd be a phenomenal job.

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Michael, I'm in.

Thank

you.

And really that inspector, we had the inspector come through our house when we were doing the draft and

It's You didn't like look into the like really the plumbing or anything is just what it's you could do that inspection I think we paid her like 400 bucks.

I think she was there for I don't know 15 minutes maybe 200 bucks Anyway, whatever if she she'd make a fortune if she was busy all day with the inspections and yeah That's something they look for the obvious, but you would know all that.

Yeah, huh?

I'm in boom.

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I could work.

I'm excited now.

That's a side hustle.

John Maino

Yeah

Thank you, Michael.

Appreciate that very much.

Good cash.

Hey, another thing you were talking about earlier though, okay?

Because you cook a

lot.

You cook a lot.

Too much.

Okay.

John Maino

You, okay, wait.

Hey,

I made that salmon last night.

What'd you do?

I put it on the grill.

I seasoned it.

I've got some like friends of mine send like for my birthday and stuff.

They send me seasoning because they think I do like to cook.

I'm not a good cook, but I like to cook and seasoning can make a difference.

So they have all that seafood, different stuff for fish, beef, whatever.

So I seasoned it and I

John Maino

What does this mean Michael said but one thing you would not be allowed to speak to

anyone knows you and then I I But in with the foil on the salmon I put in asparagus too.

Oh, and then I put it on the grill.

However, I May have knotted off a little bit.

You know how I sit down.

It was I should take it off.

Maybe

Five minutes earlier than I did because it was a little little dry,

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and I like salmon when I was getting at is me with my weight loss of which you have zero respect for whatever right, but I I Think it would be hard because you enjoy cooking.

I know that you enjoy it You get your pleasure from I do I can spend all day, right?

That's got to be hard to lose weight when you enjoy something like that.

I told

you I saw shrink He's like you got to find something else.

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Did you really know that

he's the guy that told me that no I said

build, like, make candles.

Oh, yeah.

You want to eat wax?

I have to be more disciplined, you know, but I do like giving stuff away so I can make it and give it to, like, my neighbors.

Yeah.

And there's a neighbor that lives next to me, two houses down, and he's like, I don't know, he's got to be 85.

So he likes my cooking.

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What do we say?

It's almost like, well, I shouldn't drink beer, but I like making beer.

Right.

Do you know what I mean?

It's got to be a hard type, because I can't cook.

Yeah.

I mean, I microwave.

But whatever.

Cooking has gotten so easy because of the YouTube and, you know, they're so you just, it's not like you read the recipe.

You can actually watch a guy and then they talk to you like you're a little kid, like, you know, do this and stir it, you know, gently.

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You know, I really, I don't get a chance to see her a lot, but I sure like what's her name at Channel 11 now.

I don't see that.

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I know you don't see it, but she's, I like, she's just got a great personality.

She's been on

here, right?

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Oh yeah, we got to get her

again.

He's done today,

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man.

He can't

wait to be out here.

I didn't get a name.

I don't know.

It used to be called cooking with Amy.

Now it's called cooking with, like, is it Kathy?

What's her name?

Anyway, she's, yeah.

Sorry.

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What is her

name?

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I

don't

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know.

We should know.

I don't watch that stuff.

But she's really, I mean, because, OK, you know who I used to have a little bit of a, there was one cooking show I watched religiously, Giada.

Remember Giata.

No.

John Maino

No, remember Giata?

No.

The Italian cook?

She was old.

John Maino

No, she wasn't.

I'm thinking of somebody else.

The lady on PBS

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that she's Italian lady.

No, no, no, Giata's gorgeous.

No, that ain't her.

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No.

Okay.

Who are you thinking

of?

She's on PBS and she does Italian food.

Yeah, she does.

No.

Yeah.

Okay.

I don't think her name's Giata, but it...

No, she's not something that...

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Do you

watch PBS?

Look at Italian cooking on PBS.

We'll do that

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during the break.

It's not PBS.

Oh, where's Gianna?

She has no show?

She was on the

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Food Network.

Oh, I don't get that.

I don't think.

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There was a big thing that she was getting it on with Matt Lauer and the whole thing.

Oh, you remember that?

No.

Oh, man, you got to start following things more.

I know.

So you got to go teach today, huh?

I

do.

I do.

So TC 830 to 1130.

All right.

Sent out my, who sent their letter to the students.

It's like, this is third week.

You got to get with the

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program.

Okay.

You should read some of this.

Are you like kind of nasty for your first few days just to like,

I

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just get with me.

Once you get with the program, it's a great class that you got.

Don't fall behind.

All right.

So anyway.

It's summer, it's hard though,

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you

gotta admit.

Don't you think summer school though, people kind of go in there with a little bit of an attitude, it's gonna be easier.

I love summer

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school.

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John Maino

Tuesday morning.

Isn't it gray out?

I mean, it's like, wow.

It looks like it's gonna rain 72 degrees.

Okay.

What was Pam saying that Toma got seven?

I didn't want to interrupt her because when she's on a roll, yeah, just let her was that much.

I mean, seven inches is like a flood.

Did they really get seven?

There's

like six feet of snow, right?

Isn't like, I mean, that that's a tremendous amount

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of

something.

That's

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unbelievable.

Yeah, I didn't

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hear

that.

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Wow.

All right.

72 out there right now in Green Bay, 71 Aptin, 71 Oshkosh, and high of 72, although that report earlier said 80s today.

Yeah.

So I don't

know.

I don't know.

Todd, I mean, Todd's not here, but Khan do.

When's he coming back?

I know that we got the weather report.

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So okay, convoy.

Yes.

Jim and I each have our favorite cooking person.

Which one would you watch?

Well, this or

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mine?

So on the stream, if you're watching, I

a picture of Giada in Italy on the stream right now.

Giada, so yes, I would, yeah, but can she cook?

It

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doesn't matter.

And then the one, the lady.

And then you get Jim's favorite.

It looks like the lunch you should be cooking lasagna at school, at the middle school, it'll kind of falls.

No disrespect.

They're listening.

I'm

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sorry.

My lady is, yeah, she

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would

not, yeah.

I have Lydia's kitchen.

Lydia.

It's who I watch.

Oh yeah.

She's

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a

peach.

She is, she's a plum.

She ain't something.

But she's Italian cooking and she's on PBS.

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She likes

wrong cooking.

She samples a little bit more than your

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girl.

I

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think she has a little gromp on the side.

I'm just saying, I'm not trying, whatever, whatever.

I want to

get that cooking though.

And you say you can't cook.

That's because, you know, maybe you didn't pay attention to your mom or your dad when they were cooking, but now you just sit and watch a video.

It's like, I can do that.

And sometimes it costs a little bit of money because you got to get all these ingredients.

And it says right under the recipe, seven ingredients, 10 ingredients, but, and don't try to.

cheat that.

I mean, if you don't have garlic powder, go get it.

Or if you don't have mustard seeds, go get it.

You know what I mean?

But that stuff's not that expensive.

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But you know something we were talking about during one of the breaks, I was reading a thing about Wisconsin, the state of Wisconsin, Michigan, whatever all these things about how unhealthy we are.

But it's like, okay, and they list and I want to say the top five foods that are

and fish fries, which is such a staple, such whatever.

It's so, you hate to say, because they're so delicious.

And everybody does

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it on Friday.

And

it's not only the fry, it's the fish, it's the fries.

I mean,

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it's not like

you have a fish and sea salad.

You know what I mean?

Like it's, yeah, and then.

I

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don't because they were doing a thing.

It was also internationally.

There's another category internationally.

I think it was through men's health.

I was nobody buys magazines anymore.

You get them all online.

But another one was other countries and Britain was one of them where the fish and chips are like the worst thing you could eat there.

I think what Italian was something with the pasta and whatever, but whatever.

But it's it's just funny, but.

They're so good.

It's like, you know what I mean?

At what point you just say, that's part of like enjoying life.

It is.

But with that said, there are healthy people who eat fish in Wisconsin.

But you'll eat fish.

We have a couple old fashions and we go home and

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sleep.

And

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if

you would get up and go to the gym.

And look, I'm just.

preaching that I don't do what I say.

I'm getting better though.

I think I'm getting better.

I'm

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well I tell you I've come up.

I'm not even joking about this.

When the shipyard starts I want to have a shipping container things and I'm having my smoothie shop.

Okay.

Yeah.

And it's gonna be so healthy.

I'm telling you.

Let's you want to go on a shipping crate together.

Yeah.

Okay, that, however, it just means we're going to be next to each other.

No financial relationship at all, because I want my side, my rent, my money, my profit.

You

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can- Well, then why going it together?

Because we're

like, well, people, the marketing will be, oh, hey, mine on the mayor got a, they're going to come and I'll probably be the

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lead on it.

I need a financial partner.

I don't have any money.

Michael, can you help me?

Cowboy Dave says, hey, rye bread and raw onion is

helping.

Yeah, that rye bread with

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butter.

What is that with the onion?

Oh, man, dude,

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are you kidding me?

I

don't get it.

You know what?

That's a good

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question.

Why

do you put cherries on ice cream?

I don't know.

It's just a thing.

It works.

Tastes great.

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Do you actually eat it?

Absolutely.

Everybody eats it.

Con?

I love having some on my

rye bread.

That's what it is.

Yeah, if you gave someone a fish fry and rye bread,

without the onion?

Dude, they'd send that back so fast?

No, it's just that's a thing.

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So we used to eat, when we used to have fish, we always ate brook trout, fresh cut brook trout, okay?

We would always, like, this was a family thing, you had to have a piece of buttered bread when you ate in case you choked on a bone.

Did you guys have that?

I don't know, it's because if we choked on a bone, but yeah.

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That's what it was, it was because if you, I think that goes back to the gospel.

I'm serious where they had the 12 loaves and stuff.

So that's why they had the fish in the loaves.

Yeah.

In case you choked on a bone.

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You know what?

They just had that reading.

That was

last week and I didn't... I don't know.

I'm gonna

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ask.

No, actually, you know who started that?

St.

Peter.

He said, hey, Lord, have some

white

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bread with butter.

You sure that

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didn't have anything to do with that?

God might have been like, well, what about an onion?

They're like, no, nobody's going to use an onion.

Why do you need an onion?

I think that's

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the picture of the 12 apostles.

Yeah.

I think that's what they're arguing over.

Oh, but

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I know the bread.

Yeah.

And that's funny that some people think the bread had to do with like the body of Christ, but you say

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it had to do with not

choking on a chicken bone.

We got this new guy now.

The Chicago Pope.

You ask him.

That's the guy.

He's coming here someday.

I told

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you I got a cousin who was a brother.

Same type of thing.

My brother's a priest.

Whatever.

We're gonna set up a quick break.

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Now, once again, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

John Maino

Hey, welcome back.

Mino the Mayor.

We got a text from William.

Thank you, William.

Also, by the way, Michael Friedman says, I'm in.

John, I'll help with your

Storage unit a smoothie place.

Okay, and you will not be involved Jim.

No, no So no, he just said you will not be as a

way as we as the city Develops to retract to attract talent like we have somebody who's coming out in just a second who is

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super

talented, you know This shipyard district is gonna be like this container park where you're gonna have like shipping containers and part of them are gonna be restaurants, so

John and I are gonna get we're gonna go in on a container

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No, I don't I

want anything to do with you we're gonna have we're gonna be next to each other because

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I even be next to each other Because I

think from the marketing standpoint they might say oh hey these guys you know they like each other But you know that's also a facade out there so we can say we're kind of in business together and people are gonna come but I want

all my money and I want all my expenses under my responsibility.

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Michael's my partner, Michael Friedman's my

partner.

Okay, well you got some of the bankroll you, I'm not gonna get that.

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And then William says, yes, John is absolutely 100% correct, that is the reason they give bread with fish fries in case you choke on a bone.

Thank you William.

Catholic kid right next to us,

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we'll talk, we'll get

to that too.

Hey look, we've got someone in here that

I've been trying to get in here and I see him very, very often because we live a couple houses from each other.

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And I gotta be honest, when he walked in, it was like looking in a mirror.

It's all about John.

You know, we'll get through this, but... What do you weigh these days?

Let me guess, 192.

Higher?

200?

200.

What were you two years ago in high school?

We did your game two years ago, whatever.

You were, what, 170?

Probably about 175.

Isn't that something?

Man, have you lived in the weight room?

Absolutely.

Good for you.

Okay, we're gonna introduce him here.

This guy has been bragging about you for so long.

Two years.

You can't believe it.

So go ahead.

Two years.

I've known this kid for a long time.

You are a good kid, and I will get to the football later.

That's really not how I know you.

I know you more as a neighbor.

But Christian Collins is just an unbelievable athlete.

Great student.

We'll get to that as well.

But in his last game, scored five touchdowns.

Correct.

Yep.

408 yards.

Correct.

And you are

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OK.

Did you set the album record at camp ran or did or did was it Gordon Ball had one year.

It was a tie.

It was a tie.

Exactly.

Right.

That's unbelievable.

OK.

That's a

pretty good company.

And you in the state of Wisconsin and we've been around forever.

You are the fifth in in Russian yards.

Correct.

Yes.

In history.

In history.

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Who's who's ahead

of you.

I would think

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Brent Moss.

Don't

know exactly.

No, I may be okay.

I know there's a guy from there's a guy from Grafton we both tie the Most yards in one season, which is okay thousand eighty-four like exactly It's unreal

yeah, do you get together?

I mean you're like y'all sometimes

Like a lunch or breakfast or something no no not really the only thing that we really get together for is the all-state banquet

which is like a week after the season ends or maybe like two weeks after the season ends.

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Are you playing in that this year?

No, that's also a game.

That's also a game.

Are you going to play?

No, I'm not going to be able to.

I leave in like 10 days for

college.

So we'll get to that.

You recruited right as you should

be.

A little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I read some stuff about that where you thought maybe it should be a little bit quicker.

But what I like that you read, what I read about you was

you like to run people over.

I do.

I do.

And you're kind of- It's fun.

No, this is what you said.

You said, I like to run people over.

That's kind of my thing.

And yet, I would like to think people would look at me that way in the corporate world.

It's kind of

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my thing.

I just, you're confident- I would like to run you over.

And you, when you get the ball, do you, like, what do you think when you get it?

You said when the play's called, you know,

I

know exactly what to do right like I mean we practiced everything so much that it was just like second nature to me I just feel like at the running back position.

It just came so natural So I really didn't have to think much which is which is what you want You just want to think about what you're doing in that moment and just react just react I gotta do is react to the blocks because sometimes it's not gonna go the way you want and you just got to be able to react and

That's that what that's what makes a good running back.

I feel like

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do you play for the gladiators?

Could you play for when you're young?

I play for that way bucking years.

No, the bucking years rather.

Yeah,

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man.

You guys

were so good.

They were so good.

They were

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so

good.

I think we went on in years.

We went on this feed for probably about two years.

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I remember when they had because my daughter went to you know the whole schools and everything and resurrect where'd you go to junior high or

resurrection

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resurrection?

My kids went to resurrection.

I love just down the street from it and I remember she was a cheerleader So it come out and I remember they had one of the kids they had was

Oh, he ended up going to the Air Force Academy and they had to pull him out of games because he was so good.

His dad had played for the Packers.

I can't think of his name now.

And he was just like, and he would like cry.

He goes, why can't I play?

But he

was so good.

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Then I remember Island Felt.

Remember the Island Felt?

Island Felt's were amazing.

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Amazing.

He was there.

The players they had come through the Buccaneers program.

But what you're talking about here, like what Jim asked you about with the plays, you guys.

got great coaching at really young ages.

We do.

Like Nate Island Fall actually came back for a couple of years.

He was my running backs coach for a little bit as well with Ben Augustine.

Two great coaches.

So we're talking with Christian Collins here who is going to Northern Iowa and I know they're delighted to have you and that's going to be great to watch you.

All-time record setter at Notre Dame and in the state.

When did you like know or like I know your parents and

Did they push you or they're super supportive parents?

Oh my god.

I mean When did you know you're a little kid and said look I this I like this or did you like a lot of these guys come in and they like basketball like baseball and it's like I'm not sure what I really wanted to

do Well, they're very supportive.

My dad was a big football guy I mean we played soccer up until probably about fifth grade and then which is

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great

Yeah, because I mean Kevin

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Borseth still says when he recruits

where he used to recruit, he loved it if they played soccer

in

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their younger days.

I feel like it just builds a lot of speed and agility.

Well, we played up until fifth grade and then we went into Bucks and it was just supported mainly by my dad at the time.

My mom was a little skeptical because, you know, moms, they don't like the hitting.

She's very protective and all that stuff.

Yeah.

But she she loved it after probably a year.

Like she loved it.

She loved watching it.

So no, they're super supportive.

I mean, there's there's been nothing, nothing better, really.

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What at what point did you

realize,

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holy cow?

I'm not

bad.

This is what I

want to do.

Yeah.

Well, I remember there was something that coach Rader said.

Who's our head coach now?

He coached us a little bit in LA, Buccaneers.

He said, he said, oh, this kid's going D1 when he's older.

His son's not horrible either, is he?

No, he's great.

He was really good.

He was our offensive tackle this year.

He's like 6'10".

He's

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incredible.

His size

is unbelievable.

I mean, no one can reach him.

I mean, because his arms are so long.

So what did the coach say?

Did the coach just say this kid?

Coach Rader said, oh, I'll put money.

This kid goes D1 when he's older.

Wow.

Yeah.

I was playing in wide receiver at the time.

I didn't I was running back only until freshman year like I started freshman year

You were wide receiver.

Mm-hmm.

I was a wide out.

Yeah, were you?

Upset when I sometimes you read about this stuff is guys.

I really don't want to do that Were you open to them?

Did you believe in the

coaching or you believe in it was it was mainly my decision and also my dad's because he said he knew the offense at the time because we would go to Notre Dame games and it like

All it would be is running the ball.

And so my dad's like, if you wanna- I was gonna say,

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the

water

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receiver at Northern James is kind of a lonely position.

Right, right.

And he said, if you wanna play and if you wanna be kind of that guy, be a running back.

Like that's what you wanna do.

So first day of practice, it's like kind of figure out what you wanna do.

It's like either, there's like rotations of like running back, wide receiver, linebacker, all that stuff.

I went to wide receiver, running back,

linebacked.

That's what that was kind of my thing.

And I just kind of fell in love with running back.

That's just what I love.

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I love when you guys go because I think there is such a prejudice against Northeast Wisconsin football due to the the graftens of the world, the Milwaukee's, you know what I mean?

And even when it comes to all state teams and things like that, I think kids from this area get for a lack of better words, screwed over at times because of the media down there.

So for you to go in there, you guys, and just

Destroy that that was wonderful.

That was so much fun to

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watch wasn't it?

Yeah, it was awesome even because we had They had an all-state running back as well.

Yeah, we only held him I think to like 26 yards or something like that was just amazing I can he's going to college with one of my teammates will always probably rub that in his face.

Where's it going?

He's going to Northern Iowa.

Oh, all right.

I'm sorry northern, Michigan.

Oh, northern, Michigan.

Okay

God bless northern Michigan.

I know

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their coaches looking at their thing the other day, because we got some local kids, one of their quarterbacks is from Westy Pier.

But anyway, so I just kind of this coach, you know, they they list and you don't map the floor coach there.

I mean, Big Tech, Robert Sala.

I mean, OK, this coach, you know, they lift your record and everything.

Oh, and twenty two.

This is record.

They haven't won

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a game in three years.

That's

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terrible.

And

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it's unbelievable.

Have you ever been up there?

Did you go on a recruiting

trip?

I never did.

No,

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I was trying to tell Jim.

About where they curse where you're going the uni dome is really cool.

I used to do basketball

games

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there when play that But that but the the dome up at Marquette is amazing the indoor wooden dome.

It is

for a

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D2.

It's amazing

He was tell me about that.

I've never been up there, but it's and it's like the largest in the state or they

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in the country in the world It's a large.

I believe that

it's it's

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it's a largest wooden facility in the world.

I Think that's a spruce goose.

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No, I'm

serious

All right, so you're excited.

You went down for some orientation.

And how is that?

Are you a special person?

Are you all in the same team?

Tell me how that is.

Go on walking on campus.

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Can

I jump in and just

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tell me if I'm wrong?

You're a special person while they recruit you.

And as soon as you're signed, you're meat on the hoof.

And here's how it's going to be.

Isn't that kind of the truth, though, as far as with college football?

When you're talking scholarships,

This is serious.

This

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isn't, you know, this is serious now.

I mean, you're very serious about this.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

I mean, I wouldn't say meet on the bone, but I would say just like.

I mean,

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you're expected to.

Here's here's your classes.

Here's your practice here.

It's

great lifting here.

It's a cut.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

I mean, we have I think it's like.

Maybe 7 a.m.

To 4 p.m.

That's we're basically doing everything Wow from it's like six days a week.

I think it's a there's like a morning morning run and then there's a little break and then there's a left after and then I think we go through like film study we go through plays and all that stuff That's mainly what fresh and during the season there will be study halls study halls mandatory study halls three days a week.

Yeah, you're

Academically, you're not gonna have any problem.

I don't know.

No, I'm not What I'm saying is every minute every minute is Yeah, yeah, right now

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they're making a big investment in you,

right?

I

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mean, there's a hundred kids that would give anything for your spot

Yeah, by more.

Yeah, you know Tell me about the process.

Well, we're gonna go to a quick break.

I'm gonna talk about the process of there's a lot of schools out there I don't know how many D1 schools there are but

You pick this and you never look back.

I remember reading about that.

You're like, this is

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where I belong.

It's a cool place though, Northern Ireland.

Well, I think Northern Ireland is a great place.

It's a cool facility.

We got to send her a quick break.

We'll be back.

Christian Collins, back after

this.

Hey, do you want something to drink or eat?

Oh, I don't think so.

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Truthfully, one of the greatest high school running backs in Wisconsin high school football history going down to play for the Panthers of Northern Iowa.

You know, we just talked we got this thing where Patrick Grayson just announced he's going to South Dakota.

That is people don't realize how good that conference is North Dakota State, North Dakota, Northern Iowa, all those schools.

That is a real tough brand

of football, isn't it?

It is for sure.

Yeah, the Missouri Valley's amazing conference for even like basketball and like every sport.

They're just the teams are great.

Very competitive.

I would say great fan support.

Oh, great.

Great fan support.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Christian, you're going to be there soon, right?

10 days.

You're

going to be down

there.

Are you guys into all that NIL stuff?

I mean, you're a good looking guy.

People are going to like you.

You're going to get the ball a lot, right?

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Enough about me, Jim.

Do you talk about that?

Does anybody approach

you and say, hey, look, you want to sign here?

Not fully.

I mean, I've reached out to a few, like, underdog athletics.

It's like a clothing brand.

And then Bubbler, which is like a Wisconsin-owned company

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to

drink.

They said to reach back out in July, because that's when they accept athletes and all that stuff.

So, I mean, I feel like most of the time you got to kind of do it yourself, unless you're like a big time name and then they'll come to you, but... Well,

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even, what's his name?

From Wisconsin, Play to Find a Lack?

Braille and Allen?

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Yes.

I mean, he's got some local type of contacts like you probably get bigger now that he's whatever a veteran in the NFL.

But that's how you start with some and the safety for Wisconsin.

Woolers, he's got those.

So I mean, they're out there.

They like athletes like you guys.

Well, hey, you're not really driven by money.

I'm not.

I

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know you're not.

I mean,

I know you, which is good.

Either

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way, that's where we're on

radio.

I really think it's sometimes people like you that the money comes, you know, and I just stay focused on what you're doing.

I just want to ask you a couple of things about, were you born and raised here?

Were you born and raised

in Green Bay?

No, that's what I thought.

I've lived in a few other places.

I moved from Denver, Colorado when I was eight months, just about, and then

We lived in St.

Charles, Illinois for six years and then moved, moved here.

Okay.

And tell me what you think, you know, 19, you're 19, what, 20?

19

year old.

18, 18.

You're

18,

all

right.

Like, what do you think of Green Bay as an 18 year old?

I mean, I have kids a little bit older than you, not much, but it, well, I guess they are a little bit older than you.

What do you think of Green Bay?

I mean, what's the school at Notre Dame?

You want to res?

I mean,

I love, I love Green Bay.

I think it's a great place to live.

I'm not super invested into looking at the place that I live, but I love it more than I did at St.

Charles.

The cost of living is low, which I think is really great.

I think the schools here are pretty amazing.

Notre Dame Academy, academically, athletically, they thrive, so I think it's great.

And then when it came time, when did...

Let's see, so you were, or you were always a good football player.

When did you think you start getting recruiting and like, what's a decision process at plane time?

Is it location?

Is it coaching?

What makes you pick a school because you, you were recruited?

And like you said, maybe not as much as you wanted to, but I think the fact that you're recruited speaks highly of you.

What made you pick where you went?

Well, a lot of it was the caliber of play that the play at I mean that's I really only got FCS offers so I mean I only had Dayton and University of Iowa, and then there was like a 2d2's

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Which is mind-boggling?

It's like what

more do

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you need to do for the love of the Lord?

You know what I mean?

That's

crazy.

It was it was pretty slow for

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Michigan Tech or northern Michigan those schools that's

Michigan Tech did

It should be Michigan Tech.

They play good football.

Yeah.

Yeah, they do.

I mean

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that conference too with Grand Valley and everybody

has a real tough conference.

Grand Valley is really good.

Yeah, Ferris, all those schools.

The caliber of play was high on your list.

It was.

It was.

The caliber of play and then the coaching staff is just amazing.

You've said that a couple of times.

You must have been...

Super impressed with them.

I was.

I really was.

Like, we had to sit down one-on-one with a lot of the coaches, and I just loved Coach Steps is what's great.

He was super welcoming.

He put family first.

Like, we didn't even talk about football until, like, probably five to 10 minutes into the meeting.

I

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don't get this mixed up.

Cedar Falls or Cedar Rapids?

Cedar Falls.

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Cedar

Falls.

Yes.

But is that the guy that came from Drake?

Yes.

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Okay.

All

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right.

I know you were impressed with them.

That's pretty cool that you...

Says a lot about you too that they start talking about your family and the environment versus just into home often right carry the ball

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Wisconsin didn't show any love.

No,

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it's unbelievable

not even after that game I thought I thought maybe fickle head or something.

I don't know I mean even if they said that's strong

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or whatever, but that's unbelievable.

I'll just have to prove

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he's out of a job anyway.

Yeah

He

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will I'm serious.

I think they're I'm sorry, but he just hasn't gotten it done.

I was just talking with Kaden Yakimeli yesterday and He's a great guy great running bag big dude He's gonna be that either the number one or number two at Wisconsin this year.

So

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that's

awesome.

It was pretty sweet just picking his brain and

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You know what's funny though too, it's you get these kids that are so highly touted like remember when they recruited Graham Mertz and it's like, oh, this is going to be the next great quarterback ever

to

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come through and nothing.

No, yeah.

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Just, you know,

I

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do.

There's such

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a difference between high school success and what it takes to at the big level of college football.

Yeah, you just got to sell yourself.

Sometimes people do it just right.

It might not be as good.

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Did my old school, Masabi State Junior College contact you at all?

Dammit.

They missed another one.

At least they got me.

We gotta start a quick break.

Back after this.

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around.

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Hey,

John Maino

thank you very much.

Welcome back, Minow the Bear.

Here in a good look at Tuesday morning, 72 in Green Bay, 71 in Alpton, 71 in Oshkosh, being joined by Christian Collins from the greatest high school ringbacks in the state of Wisconsin history.

And now, we're going to talk to a gentleman who covered maybe the most successful high school football team in the history of Wisconsin football.

My great friend, Tom Aiello.

former sports editor of the Manitowoc Herald Times.

Tom, good morning, my friend.

Hello, John.

How are you?

I'm good.

So you covered an error of high school foot.

We got Christian Collins here, and I don't know if you followed him, but he had over 400 yards rushing in the state championship game last year.

You covered a team that was amazing at Lincoln High School in Manitowoc in the mid 80s.

Could you describe what that team and that legendary coach was like covering them back in the day, Tom?

Yeah, the coach Ron Rubick was a pretty low key guy when you just talked to him that way.

But he had been a former Michigan State star running back back in the day before that.

But then

That era just kind of started at the end of a season before when they won a couple games and then they went down the win, you know, 48 straight, which at the time was the longest in the nation.

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What would you don Davey and some of those guys tell me about those teams?

I remember come down to watch them practice and you're right It wasn't anything, you know, he wasn't like this rah rah Vince Lombardi, whatever But they were man.

They were just good for lack of I can't come up with a better support.

They were just good

Yeah, they pretty much people knew what they're going to run right and everything but they couldn't stop it their offensive line was

You know, you would think Davey was the biggest guy, but he really wasn't.

You know, a guy named Robin Meisner, being part of that time, too, was just a heck of a lineman, but they were like, how size or bigger offensive line.

So, you know, if you're,

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you

know, a sophomore cornerback or something, and you see these guys coming around the corner at you, it couldn't have been fun to...

You know, try to stick your head in there and make a tackle.

So yeah, they were pretty dominant, uh, pretty much a running team, you know, most, most of the time.

So, um, Ron was an interesting guy in a lot of ways.

There was a quarterback at the time named Craig Erickson, um, playing in Florida, I think, uh, Miami, Miami, Miami.

Yeah.

That's right.

Miami.

And his dad was a man called Lincoln graduate.

And I had asked, you know, around one time, I said, what would you have done if you had Craig Erickson here?

Because, you know, I got passes the ball all the time.

And he, he replied in typical Rubick manner.

He said, I'd make him a running back.

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Craig Erickson, the Heisman Trophy winner, his dad is from Manitowoc.

I never knew that.

Yeah.

Yeah, his dad was a Lincoln graduate and they moved away, apparently.

So anyway, you know, we all thought that it was funny, like you could imagine him being at a camp or something in Manitouk and him going, yeah, you have a good arm, but by the way, the, uh,

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the quarterback of one of those state championship teams replaced my hip for me.

Oh, really?

What's shown us that D Ramondo, the left.

Oh yeah.

His dad was, his dad was the team doctor and I used to kid him, Harold.

Um,

He used to tease him on the sidelines once in a while about, you know, he had the ship schedule in his office.

Like guys, injuries always came back, you know, right for the key game.

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Jim here, Jim here couldn't get into Lincoln academically.

So he had to go to Ron Colley.

It's so untrue.

Yeah, they had the acceptance rate like your college, John.

So anyway.

Christian Collins, who is of course the running back here at Notre Dame, he's talking about coaching.

I want to ask you, Christian, what do you look for in coaching?

What I look for in coaching is just not, you know, especially at the college level.

I didn't, like, stepsis was so welcoming and talked about family.

It was like family first, academics first.

That's what I look for.

And I also look for a coach that is

Um, that just pushes you really hard and pushes you to like like he knows your potential and pushes you to that, you know And kind of puts you in the best place to perform at your 100%

And I think that's a good coach.

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Hey, Tom, I just want to say one thing.

I don't know if anybody besides Don Davy went on to college, because I remember I had a couple of college coaches talk to me about, hey, could you kind of put in a word for us?

And you know what?

None of them wanted to go to college.

They didn't want to give up hunting season.

They were like the most blue collar type guys.

weren't they though,

Tom?

Yeah, they were.

Eric Olson went to Air Force and was a punter there.

But, um, yeah, this Meissner was, uh, uh, I think Michigan State, but I'm not positive on that, but he was a big, uh, B1 recruit.

And then he just decided when they were at his house, uh, and the story goes when they were at his house, he just came downstairs and said he decided not to play football.

Then he was going to come back a few years later after doing other work.

He came back and, um,

asked about, you know, going back.

And I guess there was an assistant coach who was then at Northern Michigan, who was excited to try to get this guy there.

But, you know, I don't think he ever ended up playing there.

Well, that's exactly, it was a coach, it

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was a coach from Michigan Tech and one from Northern that would call me and say, Hey, could you put in, and I told them, I said, well, all these kids want to do is hunt and fish.

That's like, perfect.

Bring him up here.

They can hunt and fish the whole time.

So they thought they had them.

But they were just a bunch of blue collar kids who were just tough football players, weren't they?

I mean, you, you, you have to look back on that.

And we're talking with Tommy, I have a longtime sports writer for the Manitouac Papers.

You have to look back at what a golden error you had to cover sports on the Lakeshore.

Yeah, I did because before Manitouc Lincoln won those three straight D1 titles.

Two rivers had also won three in a row previous, like, you know, one year gap in between.

And before that, two rivers, I think from about 80 to 82, had one title, and I think brilliant 1-1, and then Manon Clark Lincoln had their run of three in a row, and then Ron Cowley was winning some.

I was waiting.

I was waiting for that.

Come on, man.

Well, I remember

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another thing I

remember.

Get to the jet.

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Valder's had really great basketball teams.

Yeah, Valder's had Van der Velden, I think was one of the big stars.

And he had actually had a little stint with the Milwaukee Bucks.

Yeah.

And Manitouk had a really good basketball.

team going for a while to about the nineteen eight years maybe a little before that it started with bad Juergensen who went down the play at South Carolina and then was also a draft pick with the Bucks who you know back then they had a more rounds in the draft but.

That's pretty

amazing

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for that area,

isn't it?

Right for that area.

And we'll just talk about this.

I'm great athletes in this area too.

And I don't know because walkie is all the big time media, but we have plenty here.

It's just I want to ask you because that's the 80s and Don Davies really going on to be quite the financial wiz, you know, he's a consultant and I mean, he's amazing.

He's amazing.

Didn't make big, big money.

I mean, but he is really parlayed that into

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he's made a lot of money for other guys though.

Yes.

I mean, that's what he does.

He's just a smart guy.

And I think that's great that these people have careers after and I he's the guy that I know the best that you covered But I want to ask Christian.

Do you think about that or is it like next year?

I mean like where years you're head at right now in terms of I mean you're 18 years old for God's sake Do you think of life down in 20 years or you just really thinking of life in the next two

months or what I mean sometimes I do I think of The future but I think right now I'm really focused on

Football and I mean obviously I got to keep my academics up, but right now I got to focus on football and Keep that keep that my number one for now, but you're fortunate

in that the academics

you're

not gonna struggle with that

You know I

mean like I think there's some people that are good athletes.

It's like a and they need that What do they call that like not student advisors?

You'll they give you that John you had yet tutors John you had those Wild guess

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But I think you, if you got Hey, if you say, if you saw my 2.7, my two year

failed.

Whatever.

All right.

So yeah, you got, we got a great four years coming up, right?

I mean, probably a terrific four years coming up, you know, stay healthy and, you know,

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or five.

Yeah.

I mean, so many kids these

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days

take that

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extra year.

Yeah.

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Hey, Tom, going, looking back on your era, covering sports here in this area, and obviously the Packers were terrible.

Isn't it funny how you and I go back to the days of being in the trenches, standing out there in those practices and Forest Greg and the whole thing.

People that are younger around you, like somebody like Christian has never experienced horrible Packer teams like we used to cover.

Isn't that crazy looking back at what we used to deal with?

Well, that wasn't the very good era for backer football and back in that day We always got to go into the locker room for interviews to like not Not now where there's as much where they bring a style player or whatever So, you know, you just kind of fetched around the locker room if you were a newspaper guy anyway But yeah, so it's totally different.

I did want to mention about academics and Don Davy

He was a mechanical engineering major at Wisconsin.

Yeah, I talked to him once and he was disappointed because he had an A minus in a class.

Unbelievable.

I schooled through college.

The guy was just like all his A's and stuff.

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And such a good guy.

We've had him on the show here.

He's just a wonderful human being, which is really cool.

Yeah.

I've been friends with his family too.

His mother actually used to work at our newspaper part time.

So when Don was a little kid, he'd bring in his football pole for his mom and, you know, do that too.

So, you know, here I saw this kid growing up from, you know, walking in their office and doing things to becoming this, you know, style player and, and all that.

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That's, we're talking with Tommy.

How long, how many years has the sports writer

tough?

Um, from about 21 and a half years, a sports editor for the last 20 plus of that, about a year or so into sports lighting, the, you know, have me become the sports editor.

So then I moved to.

Delevin here and was the overall editor of some weekly newspapers here for about eleven and a half more years I

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gotta be honest.

It's

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sad when I drive past that building in Manitowoc.

That was such a great paper and what has happened to newspapers in general?

Oh That was it that's been tough, you know, I love the building that was a cool It's a great

building.

Yeah, but I still think there's some sports writers that are just

Better than sports broadcasters and this kid that likes you the Scott Vinci He's a big big fan

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of

yours Christian and I just like reading his stuff.

I just think it's a

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little bit

There's I mean there's not I'm not taking away from TV But I I like to read stuff because there's not commercials, you know, I can just grab the paper I read it and he's written some I've read a bunch of your stuff the last few days I mean I read it when it came out, but you know, I

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he's the best

he could go any place Well, and I think he's not and I think he's just really honest, you know, sometimes these guys

are too critical because they want a name for themselves.

They're too nice and they're not really feeling the story.

And I just think he's very fair.

And we got a break reporting.

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have to run right now?

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John Maino

and Christian Collins in the house heading out to play for the Panthers of Northern Illinois, excuse me, Northern Iowa.

We've got Tom Aiello, longtime sports reporter for the Manitowoc Herald Times.

And Tom, I hate to say it because I was a journalism major.

I don't know if I would advise anybody to go into that field these days.

Would you?

It's

why why

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because there's so many fewer opportunities.

There's so many fewer newspapers I mean everything's online now

and I guess I

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guess but but you know what I mean Tom I mean that was a real I don't want to say prestigious But that was a pretty cool profession back in the day winter Greek.

Yeah, I think so that that was You know big for me that I knew from high school on what I wanted to do and you know back when I started they were just using

typewriters and scanning the pages and you know then it went to computers and then it went to doing our own pagination so it took a you know a lot of changes but with that it also cost some departments some people you know positions so that was a tough part of that as well but um but yeah I think now people are finding other ways to put out the news and

You know, I've had some calls and things too, people asking about, you know, doing online stuff.

So I think that's kind of the way it's been going.

But yeah, the true old newspaper is one of my very good friends from high school, still one of my best friends is Chuck Salaturo.

And he was the sports editor of the Milwaukee Journal before they merged.

And then he left them to become like a senior editor at ESPN.

So

There's different outlets, I guess.

You know, these are different people, but he had a pretty long run being the person behind the scenes of a lot of real good shows on ESPN.

But yeah, the delivery of the information hasn't changed, has changed a lot, but the demand for it is higher than it's ever been.

I mean, people love, it's unbelievable what the NFL and some of these teams pull in financially.

It's just, I can't get over how many

when John and I talked about getting this show off the ground, you know, there's a lot of sports stations out there right now.

And one of the reasons we kind of picked this niche is there's not a lot of local.

I agree with

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that, Jeff, but I'm just saying, I think Tom would agree with me that the big time sports writers in the state of Wisconsin were like big time celebrities, like a Bud

Lee,

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where they carried so much weight, their words.

Remember, Tom?

Yeah, definitely.

Bud's column was, you know, how so much to read there.

There are several others like that.

You know Green Bay had a couple that ended up going to Milwaukee, but like a cliff crystal or Bob McGinn, you know From a packer standpoint and the sports standpoint those guys too were standouts But yeah, we'd have our Associated Press sports editor's meetings and there are some big names, you know, that's

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cool.

I

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mean, that's that's

gone

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by the way Yeah, yeah

But Tom, when you look back on it, how has the media changed?

Has it gotten, because Jim and I have talked about this, and Jim's had a few battles with the media over the years, or whatever, whatever.

I mean, everybody does it.

Right, Christian?

In politics.

But it's like, where is it right now?

Is it too caustic in some ways?

It's a little bit hard to follow at times, because they're coming in with different views.

I used to write a column also, um, every week, a pioneering column.

And, you know, I sometimes it was just, you know, certain topics, but other times I tried to push a point on something and, but it was stated as bad as a column.

And now it seems like it just comes out in general reporting, like, you know, the team networks, especially you'll see.

You know, they're obviously aligned with, say, a political party or a movement, and that's so different to me because we're real.

I'll give, if I can give one quick non-sports example.

You know, when I became the editor here, Paul Ryan used to make regular stops.

twice a year at least to come by the office for interviews and once my man is out by his mobile unit and i guess he was asking my editorial assistant if if she knew who i you know like who i voted for what party i was for whatever and she said

You know, I work for them for three and a half years and I really don't know.

That's good.

And I just, I hadn't thought about it for a while and said, I guess that's a good thing.

That's a great

thing.

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That is the greatest compliment you

can get.

Yeah.

No, you don't.

Old school ones.

Yeah, it does.

You got a nonpartisan.

I will say, I don't think the reporters, and I don't want to, well, like I said, I'm going to criticize someone in this next statement.

I just don't think they're as knowledgeable as they used to be.

They come in and they're young and I think they want to be on TV.

They were in ballet or whatever.

They played in their cheerleaders and I'm like,

you know, but they ask these questions that, I mean, come on.

I mean, it's like, really, you're asking me that?

And I just, and I think that hurts them more than hurts me.

I mean, I'm just, I'll give them the answer, whatever they want.

But I just think if a reporter would, you were guys, you guys, you, Johnny, bunch of you guys are just extremely knowledgeable, Cliff Crystal.

I mean, and I just think people appreciate good questions.

That's my point on today.

I think it's just, I think, I don't think it's as, I don't know what the word I'm looking for.

No, I

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think you're exactly right.

And Tom, I think that's also a compliment of the people that were our mentors, wouldn't you agree?

Yeah,

I think so.

You know, I thought it was just the responsibility there.

We were talking to somebody the other day and I said, yeah, like half our new staff, I also had a lot of

input with when they are newer and coming in or they would move from sports and news and I just thought it was important to keep keep them going with the journalistic part.

I think one

other thing and it's no secret but there's just you don't get this isn't a really high-paying industry but I think if your passion's there you can figure it out you know what I mean?

I just remember my daughters in journalism and I had a sit down with a friend of mine and he's like stay away from this there's no money in this thing.

That's not what you kids care for anymore.

I mean, you don't care about money.

But that's why you had that slush fund with a cardboard box under your bed.

Hey, Tom, my yellow has been great

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having you on my

pie side.

Christian, you stick

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around.

You're the best.

Appreciate it,

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Tom.

Take care, buddy.

We'll get us to a

quick break.

Back of us.

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WTO wait Conrad you want us to switch mics here real quick?

Yeah, that'd be great actually

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Christian Collins are very special he wants you here now so he can see you on camera.

Is that correct?

Yep Thank You Conrad once Todd coming back tomorrow Tomorrow, yes, there's slave driver slave driver.

We're the Christian Collins who had one of the most amazing

High school football careers I've ever seen in my life and I've covered in sports since ever, forever.

Tell me what it was like in that state championship game when you gained, what was it, 400 yards?

Yeah,

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408 yards.

408, that's mind boggling.

You know, I was just watching a really good special on Barry Sanders.

And when he gained 2,000 yards or whatever and.

You know it was one of those things where it goes you just you just get out there and sometimes you're just in some kind of a groove and everything is moving slower for you then I mean did it have that kind of a feeling can did you have any feeling going into that game that?

Okay, this is my day.

I mean absolutely That's that's how you kind of going got to go into every game.

All right You got to got to go and think that you're that you're gonna do that you're gonna do your job and do it well, so I don't know that's kind of how I thought and I mean every game

like there's a lot of news writers that said like every game got better and better and better and every game just felt like almost easier and easier and easier

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which normally is just

the opposite right it is it is it's just a competition level gets harder and

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harder

our team as a whole got better and better and better and better like there's just no Pete there's no plateau like we just kept on getting better and better it was great

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did you guys know you're gonna be I mean

I remember when you were a junior, I think we televised one of your games and you guys were like, okay, you know.

But for what you guys put together down the stretch last year was incredible.

What was the key?

I think the key was just our overall willingness to win or like overall like eagerness to win.

We just wanted to win so bad and we were, we just knew what we needed to do because last year we lost in the level four.

We just knew what we needed to do, what it took.

And we had such great practices.

Like, we had a rain practice the week before our grafting game.

And because we didn't want to lose them.

I mean, we were a little nervous because we were going, we were like, oh, this team's good.

Yeah.

You know, and

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they always, every year they turn out somebody D1.

Yeah.

Every year.

They have some offensive linemen or defensive linemen that go D1

consistently.

I mean, we would.

We had an amazing like Friday practice right before the game.

It was raining and I think it was the best practice we ever had it It was you could just tell the tempo.

We were gonna win that game.

Isn't that great?

It was amazing

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now heading into college going to Northern Iowa, which is big-time school big-time competition

Early on everybody tries to kind of show their stripes.

They're gonna be hitting as hard as possible They're gonna be doing whatever then things kind of weed out though.

What are you expecting?

Cuz there's a big difference between playing at Notre Dame and whatever and then all of a sudden going to big-time I'm like you've been said on the schedule Nebraska's on the schedule Wyoming's on the schedule.

I mean, this is the best of the best.

What are you expecting physically?

Absolutely.

I'm well physically I'm expecting I'm expecting a lot

a lot of hard hitting right away.

And what do you weigh right now?

200?

200.

Okay.

Yep.

I think that's a good weight.

Um, I feel like I've, uh, I feel like one of my strengths is balance and being able to take a hit.

So I think, uh, you know, I think that's a big thing in, um, high level football is I think you, you just got to be able to take a hit and be able to know how, how to take it.

You know, it's cause a lot of kids get hurt just from.

You can't out tough everybody at that level.

Right.

Yeah, right.

Some guys are just massive.

It's just way too big, you know?

Yeah, there's some really big, really big linemen at UNI right now.

And you have

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to see them in person, like face to face, to realize how big some of these human beings are.

Absolutely.

And you guys, OK, so weight-wise, you're 200.

Is that what you want to play at?

You're like 5'10", 5'11"?

Yeah, I'll probably want to play at maybe 205 this year.

OK.

Tail back.

Yep.

All right.

Tell back.

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Now, how long have you wanted to be a college football player?

Because, you know, there's so many of these camps these days where kids go to them, and sometimes they realize, I was a big fish in a small pond, and you see the talent level out there.

It's like, ooh, for yourself, at what point did you say, I could do this?

I could play Division I football?

I mean, I've always wanted to be a football player.

Like every Halloween or like every chance I get I would want to be like a college or you know, like a dress up as a NFL football player.

It's I would always be a Bears player.

I was a big Bears fan.

Okay.

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Thanks for being here

Really?

Yeah, your dad's from Chicago or Illinois.

Yeah, we lived in Chicago for a long time.

Okay.

Yep.

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It's your Peyton.

Who are

you?

Actually our dogs named after Walter Peyton.

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Yeah That's awesome

That's

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phenomenal.

Now, heading into college like this, obviously academics are a huge thing.

What would you tell kids in case somebody's parents are listening or whomever and their son maybe is, you know, gonna be a freshman or what would you say is the best way to try to prepare it to be where you are right now?

And I'm gonna talk about running for 400 yards in a championship game, but just in general, the journey of every aspect of it from resurrection grade school to, you know, playing for the Panthers of Northern Iowa.

Explain that journey and advice.

Well, I think that the vast I would give to a kid maybe starting from eighth grade going to senior year is you got to stick to the weight room.

That's something and you got to stick to the to the dinner plate.

You know, you got to got to eat got a lot of protein And just got to stay in that weight room.

You just

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got the biggest

thing the weight room will take you so far and That's I feel like that's the the main reason where I'm at today is because the weight room and I think the just the the eagerness to practice the eagerness to get better the

That's just that.

That's

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kind of like the equalizer,

the

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weight room, isn't it?

I mean, I'm so old, I remember coaches would tell us not to lift weights because you'd get muscle-bounded.

Even Rocky Blyre, who's four Super Bowl championships with the Steelers, one year he decided he was just going to really work out in the weight room more than anybody else.

And his coach said,

This is ridiculous.

You're muscle bound.

You can't play football if you're muscle bound.

Nobody uses the term muscle bound anymore because it scientifically has become so advanced.

Hasn't

it?

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It's not just a matter of I lift heavy things and I put them down.

That's not it at all, is it?

No, it's not.

No, I think it just it enhances your performance your balance your your ability to run someone over and just being big just being that solid

You know wall going towards someone I feel like that's the that's kind of the key especially as a running back You got to be able to run someone over or even like go You know like the 510 5 like that kind of drill you got to be able

to be agile and all that stuff and all that stuff helps.

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I think Green Bay, and we've talked about this too, not just Green Bay.

Northeast Wisconsin, I was mentioning this earlier.

We had Tom there from the Manitowoc paper talking.

He just texted me too about some other state championships that they want in that area.

But I just for whatever reason feel like our area, our whole market up here is underrated by the rest of the state for the athletes that we turn out.

I really, I really believe that.

I think we are definitely underrated.

I mean, maybe not after this year since, you know, Bayport and Notre Dame both went to the state championship.

We had the two best teams in the state.

I think it was... I would have loved to play him this year.

That would have been a fun game.

And I

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had a Westy Pier.

How good

they were.

Pecana.

We played Pecana, our first game.

That was a really close game.

I mean, it was mainly just like a field goal fast.

That was really it.

I mean, I would run down there.

We'd score a field goal.

And that was pretty much the game.

Right.

That was it.

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But for whatever reason, the sports casters, sports writers, whomever marketing people in the Milwaukee, Madison area just kind of don't give us this area its due.

And I feel

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that way

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even with obviously you made all state and everything like that.

But it's hard sometimes.

And Grayson made all state as well.

But it's hard for those guys to get all state recognition.

Right.

Yeah.

I just think, um, well, unless you're like on the state leaderboard, that's, that's really it.

Right.

Um, but I think that the FRCC, uh, North and South, I think the South is much better.

I

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didn't even mention Kimberly.

No.

I mean, it's like Nina.

I mean, Plasky's usually pretty decent.

I'm maybe not in the last couple of years, but they're usually, but I will

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say this ball, Plasky, they've got the toughest 162 pound.

They're all 562 pounds and we'll just smack you in the mouth.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yep.

But what do you want to do then down the road?

I mean, obviously everybody wants to play pro football, but you know, it's one and a whatever, whatever.

What would you like to do?

How would you like to turn this football scholarship into a career?

Well, um, I'm looking to do business finance.

So something in that.

that area.

I mean, I'm still kind of exploring my options.

So I think that Northern Iowa will definitely help with that and help me make a decision on what I want to continue.

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We're talking about Don Davy.

That's exactly what he does.

And that is so needed in professional sports.

I can't, I could sit here for the next 15 minutes and do nothing but tell you stories of guys that lost every dime they ever had playing pro football.

It's, it's unbelievable.

It's shocking.

how many guys go broke after making half a million, a million dollars a year.

They need, and that's why Don Davy has really, who was it?

I think Yerco or one of the guys where Davy just went off on him because he wasn't, I don't know what it was.

He flew first class or something.

You know what I mean?

One of those things you wouldn't think of.

And he's like, no, you got to be really fiscally sound with every dime you make or you'll be shocked at how quickly it goes.

So I mean, that's a great career if you got into that.

I mean professional career doesn't last forever So you got to be able to you know make that money that you make for a shorter period short amount of time You got to make that last so

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if you had had your pick, where would you have got college rice to play

ball?

Hmm.

I mean I've thought I Always thought that you know, Texas or like the SEC schools were always so core like Tennessee, you know like watching them like run out of the tunnel and all that stuff That's I was always really fun

I would say probably Tennessee being a running back at Tennessee.

Okay, that would be probably my number one

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86,000 fans every game.

Yeah, it's just a

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great atmosphere.

Yeah,

you know, I mean

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when I retire if I ever do retire my Dream or what I'm going to do is I'm just gonna travel around the country and go to a different college football game every Saturday

That's awesome.

And that's what I

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wanted.

I think there's something about I will I've been to almost every stadium in the NFL and that doesn't really do anything for me college football

The atmosphere of a college football game is unsurpassed.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

How much fun is

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going to be running out of the tunnel at the uni dome?

It'll be fun.

It'll be fun.

I think they average like 10,000 fans.

So it'll be fun.

It's

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a great place.

They actually used to, when I used to do the green big games, we used to play down there all the time.

They had the big thing of Bryce pop was hanging and it's too bad.

He's not there anymore.

But

it was a good little

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thing of him hanging there, the big banner.

He's like their most legendary player ever to come on.

They've turned, they've put out a lot of guys in the pros though.

Yeah.

Bryce, Bryce pop that he reached out to me a few times and when it was recruiting time, like he recruited me and then there was like a dead period.

Then he, then he left and then they kind of picked up last minute with the Drake, the Drake squad that came in and placed them.

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You guys, you guys got a whole new coaching staff there now, right?

Yeah.

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Full, except I think one.

Wow.

Except one.

You know what?

That's good though, because then there's no, you know, preconceived type of, you know, this guy, like this guy better than the other guy.

I'll start getting them from the fresh.

That's awesome, man.

Good for you.

This is cool.

All right, we got sort of a quick break with Christian Collins, the number one running back in the state of Wisconsin.

Quick break back after this.

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Little Sly and the Family Stone.

Convoy.

Yeah?

Do you even know who Sly and the Family Stone were?

I didn't until like, I don't know, three months ago.

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All right.

So we're educating you a little bit, huh?

I guess so, yes.

Proud of that.

Proud of that.

We're with Christian Collins.

Great having you here.

Top running back in the state of Wisconsin, heading down to Northern Iowa to play college football.

Christian, when you were that young kid at Resurrection School and now you're a scholarship player going Division One, tell me some of the things that for, again, with parents listening or whatever, tell me some of the things that you look back at now that made a difference to get you where you are.

Well, I think just I think just like the support for my parents was a big thing and my dad always had a lot of good things to say like mentality wise mentality was huge and Be an attitude, you know, just kind of having that that's so important.

It's so important I mean just having the attitude to be able to push through, you know, either adversity or to push through

You know the down times just having like a bad game.

You have to bounce back You know those are the hard things in football or really any sport you got to be able to have that attitude or the ability to bounce back

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Tell you what you guys had a good run of coaches or you still do at Notre

Dame.

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I mean coach Raider

is great.

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Yeah, I mean, that's it I still miss coach.

No lock.

He was legendary, but

Boy, did they find a nice, uh, nice replacement down the road for him

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and that whole

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bunch.

So one more thing, heading into college football like this, um, the physicality is going to be incredible.

Uh, your weightlifting pretty much every day.

Okay.

Is this, is this a dream come true?

Are you a little bit apprehensive?

Are you way excited?

Just mentally heading in towards this big time college football.

Where you at?

Well, um, I'm really excited.

Um,

like mentally, I'm just getting prepared for the first week and kind of just looking, I'm looking forward to it.

I got 10 days left, counting down the days, just getting prepared, getting in the weight room every day for the next 10 days.

Hey, going

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back, people don't understand.

I shouldn't have used the term meat on the hoof, but that's

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the

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old term from my era.

But what I mean is they pretty much own you as far as like almost every minute of the day is scheduled, isn't it?

Once

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you're there.

pretty much yeah and I'm not um as of right now I'm not even a scholarship player well you're going to be well yes I I hope to be and that's that's something I gotta prove you to the coaches and right to myself because you know I've been under recruited you know ever since which is my blackling which is crazy but go ahead I think it's just um for me it's uh it's a way to um you know

improve myself improve my mentality and improve my my play just because I can That means I still have room to get better and that means that I can prove to the others that

I am worthy of a scholarship.

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But you will be judged on everything.

You'll be judged on what you do in study hall.

You'll be judged on what you do in the weight room.

You'll be judged on every practice.

You'll be judged on the mental aspect of football, which at that level is pretty tough in certain ways.

Are you prepared for that?

You will be under the spotlight every second.

Yeah.

I think I'm prepared for that.

I think the months leading up to now, I think I've been preparing pretty well for that.

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That's awesome, man.

This is so exciting.

I mean, I wish I could go back 50 years and be in your shoes.

I mean, I just think that's everybody wants an opportunity to play at that level and and you're there and you're 10 days away.

Yeah, it's really cool.

It's really exciting.

It's so cool.

Yeah.

How's Notre Dame going to be this year?

I think they're going to be pretty good.

They got to get, I don't know who the running backs are going to be for sure yet, but got a new

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field going in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's going to be cool.

Yeah.

I wish we had that last.

I mean, uh, it was, it was good to have a state GM being chip on that last, last piece of turf.

So it was the oldest turf in the state.

Isn't that something?

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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And I remember when they put that in the first time, it's like, Oh, is this ever cool?

But it's,

it's

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incredible.

But, but once again, going back to the game, you had a camp Randall know, and I'll ever be able to take that away from you.

I mean, that's actually the record.

I don't think anybody's going to run for 400.

What did you have 400?

408, 408.

I don't think anybody's going to.

go for 409.

I

hope

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not.

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I don't think it's ever

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going to happen.

I'm glad you're not playing in the all-star game.

Yeah.

And I mean that in a way that I've known kids that have got to play in those games and they get hurt and then it kind of screws up their whole first year.

And once you're behind the eight ball at that level, they're always going to be bringing in other kids that are pretty good.

And so I'm glad you're not doing that.

And you never know what kind of injury it's going to be.

Exactly.

I mean, I asked the coaches beforehand if it was like

Even worth it.

They said yeah, it's worth it, but it's like the kids go 110% Yeah, you know, it's not like some laxadaisical all-star game that people want to be there and have fun.

It's a game.

It's a hard-hitting game

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Yes, cuz it meant for 99% of those kids.

It's the last time they put on pads It's

the

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last time they'll put on pair of shoulder pads and they there's no reason to hold anything back, right?

So I'm glad you're not doing that

Yeah, I am too.

I think it was like fun being recognized.

Like, thank you.

And I would have loved to do the fundraiser and all that stuff.

But I think it's probably best that I stay away from, stay away from injury, you know.

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Last thing, give advice.

All the parents listening out there, not that their kids are all going to play D1 football, but just in general, the best advice that you could give to somebody.

Best advice is, you know, just stay humble, stay, be yourself, be true to yourself.

And, you know, just listen to your coaches.

They know what they're talking about.

And hit the weights.

Hit the weights.

Just got to hit the weights.

Yes.

What are you benched?

I benched around 245, 250.

I haven't maxed out in a while.

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Me too.

Oh, I thought you said, what do I weigh?

No, I'm sorry.

Christian College, great having you here, man.

We're going to watch you at Northern Iowa.

We're going to follow your success.

It was so much fun watching you in your high school career.

And thanks for coming in.

And you said it right.

Stay humble.

Absolutely.

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Thanks for having me on.

Thank you, buddy convoy.

Yeah,

it's

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been great having

you.

Yeah, it's it's been a fun six days Yeah, I'm excited not to wake up at 4 a.m.

Tomorrow though

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But let's be honest people probably said wow you get to go in with John Minow and the former mayor every morning at 6 o'clock Did a lot of people say that to you?

I had no I'm

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not one yet.

None yet, huh?

No days sometime they might They might

thanks again for the for the golf you bet.

Yes.

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Thanks, buddy

Todd will be back in tomorrow, mine or the mayor?

See

ya!

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