BikeOsh25 & The Chamber (Hour 2)

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BikeOsh25 & The Chamber (Hour 2)

Maino and the Mayor · Thu May 8, 2025

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Todd, it's never good when Jim and I are looking at each other and making motions and pantomizing what to do dealing with equipment.

Pointing to our ears.

So

just so you guys know when

we're

on location, our noise or our sound from the audio from the studio has to drop before we go live.

So

that's why I went.

Oh, I thought he was.

No, no, no.

OK.

All right, anyway, so we can.

Tell everyone where we are.

This is good morning.

Look

at that beautiful sun coming up over the water right behind us.

Great.

Isn't that I just wish there were some warmth in it.

I know.

But it's cold.

It's a little chilly out here.

We're in Oshkosh.

We love being in Oshkosh.

You know, just driving into the looking for a gas station by my my monster.

I don't want you guys to judge me for drinking.

I got to tell you that.

You know what?

I could hang out if they had a quick trip at five twenty seven in the morning.

Okay,

with all the trades people.

It's all yellow.

Totally completely.

That's great though.

They're getting hot dogs.

Yeah.

Yeah, they load up.

That's, that's

always fun.

I don't know or something about that.

I just, I really like, but, but the thing is, I was saying how I love this.

I should share you so much when coming in.

Through this street and that well whatever whatever 6th Street and although over there Oregon Street and coming right down the two blocks from here Just beautiful greenery right on the water and it's got up there.

You know built 1883 and the next one next what 1889

And this one right next to us, a fire station when I bet they used horses.

Absolutely.

You know what I mean?

Oh, yeah.

We're right.

And didn't you say, Todd, this is where Oshkosh started?

I mean, pretty much right by the fire station there, right?

Back when it was Athens, it was right on the river and all that kind of stuff.

Did you actually close that?

Yeah.

Is it bothering you?

It's kind of burning up the redness.

I won't be the surgeon.

Get this wart right off my face.

But it feels good.

It's nice down here in Oshkosh.

Beautiful, beautiful morning.

Not warm.

38 degrees in Green Bay, 39 in Apton, 41 in Oshkosh, but it is sunshiny and the forecast mid to upper 50s today.

So a little chilly today.

And then after this, pretty much kind of.

Oh yeah, this weekend is.

Gradually.

I think we might even hit 80, which is, wow, it's been a while.

Now it's going to be great weekend.

So, hey, I was going to ask you, we took different cars because we have different things to do after this, but.

You know, you think 435 people be nice.

There's a little road rage.

I felt with a guy next to me.

Did you get running?

The traffic was more than I thought.

No, you're good.

Well, yes and no.

Okay.

I just, and that made me think of, did you see that road rage thing where that.

guys driving and that road rage with a motorcycle?

No.

Oh, you got to see this.

Oh, wow.

And they're going back and forth and finally the motorcycle.

As they're driving?

As they're driving, you know, left lane, right lane, right?

And finally the motorcycle just comes right next to this guy, probably, I don't know, two feet and just giving him the finger.

The guy just jerks to the right, knocks the guy off.

Wow.

Yeah, and I think he lived, but boy did he, that guy went flying.

So anyway, that's too much road rage for me.

Boy, but what I'm saying is, okay.

Was it a motorcycle or something?

Yeah, there kind of was type of thing.

You know, knowing I saw it, okay.

But I was talking to the guys yesterday and what guys had lunch with angle and they just told horror stories left and right about They just call it the gauntlet when they come here early in the morning,

you know

And it's it's 85 87 miles an hour and it's it's So so I guess I'm used to it in a certain way and you just kind of you know hunkered out and getting the flow

what we In Green Bay, you know you walk to work and I drive two minutes to work.

So I was just

It was fine.

I just was like, wow, they're, this is a little aggressive.

I was

wondering,

but I played late to it.

Is he

late for work?

That guy who was me.

No,

I know.

Cause we had, there's

one guy passed me, blew right past me at whatever.

Then there were two semi.

They was in the three lane area and there were semis in each of the lanes, which is kind of freaky.

Cause I've gotten caught in between them.

So I bet he went a hundred.

They're kind of messing with

you a little bit when they both pass you at the same time and you're in the middle.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway, yes, but I bet he went I bet he well easy 90.

Yeah, he's going.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I did my cruise on an 82.

So I didn't want to get a ticket.

No.

Hey, today is Thursday, May 8th.

It is no socks day.

I like going without socks, but man, my shoes stink then

with

sandals.

No, I don't know.

But I mean, to the point where it's like, if you sit in the living room, it's like,

what is that?

Then you realize your shoes are like under you and that's what it is.

You ever have that?

No.

Uh,

no.

I mean, maybe as a child, but

then, you know,

as you grow up,

you go, well,

I'm just not going to do that

anymore.

Or you're going to wash your socks or your feet or just not, or wear socks when you have shoes and not wear socks when you have sandals.

So that's, but okay, that's, I

will never, I'll tell you one thing on there.

I'll never wear crocs.

No.

Oh, I

see.

I like him just if I'm going to run out to the throw some garbage out or like that I'll throw him on real quick as I go outside.

Kind of like a pair of slippers for outside.

But you have slippers.

I have slippers.

OK,

you think.

OK, I was so excited to wear a bathrobe in New York.

That's right.

Because I hadn't worn a bathrobe

since I

was seven.

Do you think I

own a pair of slippers, Jim?

Not that.

Like your kids would give them to you for like, you know, something.

But yeah, I got a pack of slippers.

I got I got different kinds of pipe, three, four pairs of slippers.

Um, you have bear for each day of the week.

Who you

ask?

Um, today is ovarian cancer day, very important day.

Ovarian cancer, man, that is affecting other ones affect so many people and they've made great strides with that.

Have a coke day.

All right.

Is, is coke coming out with another new thing that they're really pumping?

It's like something like.

This is like another new break and that's one of those entities.

Why don't you say what's like, what are you doing?

Just

let it be.

Yeah, I know.

But I always do want more shelf space.

Is that the energized?

Is that what it is?

I mean, that's there's something like that.

They have a new orange cream flavor.

OK.

And by the way, I think Khan actually loves that stuff.

He would.

Yeah.

He would.

You would.

Wow.

Yeah.

So there's

a. So that's

what

it is.

There's an orange cream and an orange cream zero, I believe, zero sugar.

All right.

Yeah, he actually got

me some as a

thank you and it's not bad.

Really?

Yeah, it's not bad.

I don't know that I would go buy it

I'm gonna tell you something that is so good that I could market this I could market this and I'm not lying.

I'm gonna do I'm gonna do next time I'm gonna here's I'm gonna do I'm gonna I'm gonna make a jug of this I'm gonna make a jug and I'm gonna bring into the studio and every guest we have that I'm gonna give them a sample

Say hey, what do

you think

about this?

Okay?

Okay like that

Do you want me to tell you what's in it?

Sure.

Okay.

Tang.

Okay.

Vanilla flavored protein powder.

Okay.

Avocados.

Little bit of banana.

Okay.

And pistachio seeds.

And it's blended all up and it tastes half between an orange cream sickle and a pistachio bar.

That

sounds good.

It's

unbelievable and it's so good for you.

It's mind-boggling I don't think you could I don't think you could put anything in your body.

There'd be better for you than that I'm not even joking about this as you come up with that.

I did it on my own Yeah,

it's like sitting here with emerald legosi.

Yeah, you know BAM I'm doing this mate, but I gotta buy a new but my bed blender is so gross.

Is there anything worse than cleaning a blender?

I Was clean it every time.

Oh, it's that spot.

I bet you don't clean your blender every time

Well, I was going to yesterday.

That's why it's

hard to

clean.

To the point

where I just took dove laundry soap and just right now it's still soaking because once that stuff gets in there.

That's true.

Oh, is that hard to get

out?

But you take it apart

too.

I know, but then you got the blaze.

But

what I'm saying is to use it that one time, the effort afterwards

to clean.

Don't you have a dishwasher?

Yeah, but I don't think you're supposed to put those in dishwashers.

I think

you can.

I don't know, I do.

I think you can.

Can you?

Yeah, I think so.

Okay, that'd do it for you.

But you know what I mean?

It's still it's like can't they come up with something that just stays a lot cleaner when you make it or easier to something

something what you put in there if you just it's what you put in there that makes it stuff cling to the sides.

I mean, if you just do it with like water and tang, yeah, it'll be a problem.

So no, you have to do that.

And you got to do it right away.

Like when you're done.

Yeah,

that's what I mean.

Because if you right away, if you wait for it, then it's yeah.

Yeah.

If you make something in the morning and then you wait till

I get night, it is

coagulated in there.

It is so hard

to get over.

I was actually

thinking about taking a toothbrush or something to get into those spots to get that stuff out.

So if I do it for you guys tomorrow, it's still going to be on my gross one because I don't think I have time to bite into it.

No, I'm not drinking

that.

You guys want to wait?

I'll probably pass.

I'll pass.

Yep.

Now, I don't know how long that, you got some things in there that spoil rather quickly.

Yeah,

I know.

I've been eating so many avocados though.

You know what's a good sandwich?

Let me guess.

You're sardines and avocado?

No, but that's not a bad idea.

The lettuce with avocado that I was talking about.

Yeah.

And either turkey or ham, OK, a little bit of mayo.

Yeah.

But heat it up first before you put the mayo on.

It's

fantastic.

That turkey and ham, though.

Ham is it.

But you know, is that turkey processed?

Are you getting like a breast of turkey and then slicing it?

I

just I

kill one of my turkeys.

What do you think?

That's not that process.

That's not really that good for you.

Actually, it's better for you.

Cause it has all the chemicals to

get, you know, keep your body has more to

it,

but it's great.

It's good.

I'm going to make you guys one of those shakes though.

Oh, I'll buy you a blender first.

Um, it's donkey day.

It is coconut cream pie day.

You know, yesterday when we're, no, the other day when we had Sean in for Merida and those things.

And that, I remember when it used to get Tommy's buy rate, this little story, a little mom and pop little store and coming home from a little league game, buying one of those things for 15 cents.

And

then the

coconut cream pie ones, which were.

Amazingly good.

We just stuck with the apple.

But yeah, that's no, I don't like coconut.

So I don't like

all

coconut

cream

pie

to me is banana

cream.

All those.

I'll just sit there

and eat the whole

thing

for my birthday.

My son Dom gave me that coconut.

I gave you some.

Didn't I?

Yes,

they did.

Give me the last slice.

Yes.

From the Union Hotel from the Baker at the Union homemade coconut cream pie.

That was amazing.

Wasn't it?

Oh, yeah.

What was your favorite pie, apple?

I like rhubarb.

Oh,

you

would.

What?

Nobody likes Rubar, probably.

Children's Book Week, which is great.

Your daughter wrote a children's book, right?

Didn't she?

I thought she was writing something.

She writes a lot.

No, it was more short stories.

She doesn't have her own book published.

But was it

towards kids?

Yeah, that was something that was we were kind of talking before the show that was she had a booth and everything at Art Fest.

I'm sure you've done that too.

But yeah, it's so that was cool.

Well, that's cool.

Yeah.

That's very cool.

Happy birthday, Enrique Iglesias, 50.

So that's the young one, obviously,

son,

his kid.

Melissa Gilbert, 61, little house in the prairie.

Half pint.

Half pint.

Yep.

Didn't sound like her and the other girl.

Anderson.

Melissa Sue Anderson.

Got along.

And the one from Nellie.

You know who I mean, Jim.

You were at the event.

I was out with her at Heritage Hill.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, real name.

I can't think of Allison and Greg.

Yes.

Yes.

Three, you know, they say in baseball sometimes you have, uh, you know, 20 guys in the team and after a game, 20 different cabs.

Cause every, you know, that's the way it sounded amongst those three.

Like, I bet it was tough.

Yeah.

But I think there were some, uh, stage moms that got involved in the whole thing.

And yeah.

Yep.

But she told some good stories about how Michael landed sometimes it looked like he had a cup of coffee and I think it was wild turkey Ronnie lot is 66 Ronnie lot was there when the Green Bay Packers Pick was up for the NFL draft and they took

Rich Campbell, who never played.

I think he played one game his entire career.

Here's a Packers number one draft pick and like two picks later, I think it was San Francisco took Ronnie Lott, who was one of the all time greatest safeties in the history of the National Football League.

Hall of Famer, first ballot Hall of Famer, Packers passed him up.

Alex Van Halen, 72.

I don't think he's got much going on these days.

No.

I mean, he had his thing with his brother.

Phillip Bailey.

Who's Phillip Bailey?

So Earth went in fire and he had a duet back in the 80s with Phil Collins.

Easy lover.

Remember that song?

Oh, sure.

Yep.

Phil Bailey.

Oh, cool.

Tony Tenille,

85.

Come on.

Wow.

That's like almost 100.

Oh, my God.

85 is not just a, well, you remember that.

I do.

I

remember her.

No, but remember in 20 years when you're 85,

we'll be like, Jim, it's

almost 100.

that's good that's good uh let's see um good morning guys you three are as cool as a cucumber in a bowl of hot sauce brian brian

brian's getting better he's that was nice right

he always starts

that he does feel snarky

but he's he always does he's got any haskell in a way we got a bunch of good ones here folks stay with us we got a great show coming for you downtown oshkosh back at this

Roll on highway, roll on along, roll on daddy till you get back home.

Roll on family, roll on crew, roll on mama

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As we mentioned, 38 in Green Bay, 39 in Appton, 41 in Oshkosh, mostly sunny today, high in the mid to upper 50s, but it looks like a great, great weekend coming up.

We got some great guests for you coming our way from down here.

I'll tell you what.

Todd, let's talk a little bit about our first guest that's gonna be coming up.

in about 10 minutes.

Alicia Wenger, Executive Director of the Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services.

What a history to this.

This great entity they put together, huh?

Well, and you hate to say it spawned from tragedy, but but it

did

but

it did it was it did and I'll tell you it's been it's been a it's been a anchor in our community for a lot of years and just recently they had to expand from a rather large Victorian type house in Oshkosh to a much larger facility which allowed them to expand and help more people so she'll be in to talk a little bit about that but the history you guys were talking off the air why it's called Christine Ann and all that

quite sad interesting

and you know it's too bad that you had to move from the Victorian house to the 64 bed and now right in Green Bay they put that golden house that I don't know we better get that under control I think that that's been around for a long time but never talked about so now that it's out in the open I think people are you know hey look you had to do this is just crazy some of the stuff that

I mean I don't know if that's good or bad that they had to expand does that mean there's more victims happening or does it mean there's more victims coming forward we'll ask her but I think it's the latter

I hope so.

I mean, that's good then, you know, hey, you know, something yesterday I was driving on Mason and it's going to stop traffic.

What's up the old truce house?

Oh, truce.

Yeah,

we had them on.

Yeah, but she mentioned, you know, we're a lot bigger place in your and I was stopped right there and I was that does go way back.

Like, you know, when you drive by it, you think, well, okay, a person, you know, one family

might stay there for holy crap.

That's big back there.

That's the other room and they got great community rooms and

Yeah, it's I wonder.

I want to ask her how they did for.

Remember we they were worried about the draft that they were going to get full.

They're always full that they needed some extra houses.

So a lady was listening to us and she wrote me a letter.

They had to get references.

If you want to open up your house to the Altrusa.

Oh, I

believe that.

Sure.

Yeah.

So she will you write my reference letter?

I'm like, yeah, absolutely.

So

anyway, I.

So

much better so much I

walk in today.

She's at her desk.

I walk in which I first thing she does get she gets up, but she closes the door She wanted to do that before you got here, but she's like damn there he is We got some text here.

See from Dave the mayor is even above foot odor Okay, all

right, Dave

Todd and Dupir says Jim not only has multiple pairs of slippers, but I bet they're all embossed I won

Anybody surprised

by that

yes, they're gifts.

Come on.

Good morning to in my opinion the best morning talk show in the whole wide world, Mike.

Thank you, Mike.

Love you, Mike.

OK, is this legit?

Well, this one just puts soap and water in it, let it run after you use it each time.

OK, that's fine.

I'll try that.

Allison from Allentown, Pennsylvania.

That's where she's listening in.

Wow.

So.

How cool is

that?

Turn your blender back on after you put soap and water.

That's a good idea.

I don't I never would have thought of that.

Yeah, but you don't want your next drink to take, take.

Well, you got to rinse it out and stuff, right?

But that

is a great idea.

Allison, tell us about why you're listening to us from Allentown, Pennsylvania.

All right.

That was the biggest.

It was the number one hit in December of 1982.

Billy Joel.

Yes.

Living here in Allentown.

Yes.

Okay, so anyway, but that's great that you're listening.

Thank you very much.

And did we ever hand out our $25 gift card?

Not yet

for the tagline.

Can we keep it going

to this?

Yep.

Our snarkiest tagline.

Here's how we do it, folks, since, you know, we were number two for the morning shows.

And we're proud of that.

We're proud of that.

You know what?

Doggone it, you're all winners.

And we were coming out taglines yesterday.

Mine on the bear.

And then you fill in the rest.

I kind of like the one.

What did you expect?

There were a

couple

really good ones.

There were some really good ones.

So we have to.

So we're continuing that one today.

Fill us in on your best slogan.

Mine on the mare.

Our tagline.

Yada, yada, yada.

And people are going to be like, OK, that's cool.

Yes.

That's not a bad one in itself.

Mine on the mare.

Yada,

yada,

yada.

That's true.

That is true, Todd.

That's not bad.

I came up with that.

I get the $25

card.

Also coming up today, Kaden Lederhaus and Feneke Thompson, Bike Osh 25.

I am the community inside iCare.

Tell me a little bit more about biking in Oshkosh, Todd, because that is so big down

here.

This is an event coming up in a couple of weeks.

It's with some of the students in town.

And basically you're going to be able to bike around the city, stop off at certain points to have your your little card punched or whatever.

This is really interesting.

because you're right, biking is big in this city, and these two young men will talk a little bit about this particular, and I think it's pronounced, we'll have to find out, but like bug gosh, so it's like, bug gosh, bug gosh, 25, I think.

But this

is a big biking community,

right?

I mean, like community, biking, groups.

This is their ninth annual, so they know what they're doing here, but they really want to educate people on the bike lanes, and really, because there's responsibilities.

Everybody's like, well, the cars, the cars, the cars.

Well, the bike, because they have some responsibilities, too.

So I think they try to educate the whole community on.

But biking's big, no doubt about it.

So did you?

I know.

Yeah, I got busy yesterday.

I had to go pick up some stuff for that party I'm having.

Tell me it's going biking.

I did.

But I went and rented the table and chairs.

I had to pick all that stuff up yesterday.

So I don't have to do it today.

Also, just want to mention that did you ask

your neighbor if he's got a gel seat for me?

No, yeah, I can tell you what I this is this is kind of sad I don't remember his dog died and he's like us So they're in mourning.

No, I didn't go over there.

Okay

All right.

Sorry

about

that.

Just wanted to mention that that particular segment is our new eye in the community segment.

And it's brought to you by Insight Eye Care, the eye doctor that was on with us last time.

Oh, yeah.

He was great.

So big thanks to him and his locations.

We'll learn more about that in the next couple of weeks.

Oh, that's fantastic.

Yep.

Oh, glad to hear it.

Really glad to hear it.

Then Connie Carmichael, Oshkosh Chamber, coming on to talk about some great things.

Oh, they good.

They got so much going on here at the chamber.

And what's cool about their chamber, I mean, just not just the 900 members that they have in networking and doing business to business.

They actually give you their mailing list for free.

Isn't that cool?

So you got 900 friends.

You can just email to tell what you're doing.

Absolutely.

There's so much else going on there.

So that's it's great organization.

All right.

We just had

a quick break.

Mine or the mayor coming right from downtown Oshkosh in a beautiful Thursday morning.

Back after

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Now, back to Mino and the Mayor.

Here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, welcome back.

Come on in on the Mayor.

coming your way from downtown Oshkosh and a beautiful but chilly Thursday morning 38 in Green Bay 39 out in 41 Oshkosh high today in the mid to upper 50s I told you we've got a full slate of great guests we always do when we come to Oshkosh Todd and Lisa always put together a great great ensemble Alicia Wenger executive director of the Christine Ann story here domestic abuse services and we were just talking during the break and we were just

Wide-eyed her mouth's almost open.

You tell me about the day-to-day that you all deal with with this, but first I want to back up if you don't mind Christine and we need to acknowledge that more than just her name Can you tell her story and why your center is named after this young lady?

Absolutely.

Well, thank you so much

and welcome by the way.

Yes, hi Great to say we love being here.

We absolutely love being in Oshkosh and

you guys got it going on in Oshkosh and we got I just

Johnny's talking about we have a great lineup today, but Oshkosh is it's a big city Yeah, and we got this guy's gonna talk about bikes We got the chamber coming in but there's also some issues here that need to be dealt with right and we've had the homeless guy on before we had the food pantry and and you're here talking a little bit about domestic violence, which is

You're doing something about it.

You know, people who don't talk about it don't do anything.

It gets worse.

So I just

Yeah, for that.

But I was also to another discussion Jim and I had right before you even came in.

Todd was telling us about how you had this facility, this big old house, and he had to expand or whatever.

And the question we had is that a good thing or a bad thing, meaning.

Domestic abuse is continuing at an accelerating pace or does it mean that you guys have done such a great job getting word out there that you were there to help that more people who maybe would have been What's the word?

Reluctant to come and ask for help now.

They realize you guys are there for them.

So

First of all, welcome.

And we just threw about 27 questions at you in our introduction.

So thank you for being

here.

Our next guest coming up.

Turn her mic on.

All right.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for having me.

We'll start with Kristine.

Yeah.

So Kristine Ann Clark, she grew up in the Oshkosh area, went to school at UW Oshkosh, where at that point in time, she had met her.

her boyfriend Alan and soon after they graduated they got married and things were and became very abusive and domestic violence a lot of times is not visible to the outside world.

There's so many people in our lives that are impacted by abuse and we have no idea because it's kept behind closed doors and that's really what was happening with Christine Ann and she was

They ended up having a child together a daughter and They the abuse had gotten so bad that she actually fled to a shelter in Milwaukee and Like the cycle of violence You know Alan convinced her to come back and so She tried and it got worse and so she ended up leaving it was at that point that she had told her family about

what was what was happening and What had happened essentially then was they went through the divorce, but they had 5050 custody of their daughter and during a child custody exchange Allen had convinced her to meet in a different location that was more secluded and It was relevant to their relationship when they were together.

It was a spot that they knew and he had

ended up taking her life and leaving the daughter unharmed.

Um,

can I ask how old the daughter was at the time?

She was very little.

Um,

I mean, no disrespect, but at least she didn't witness it firsthand type thing.

Yeah.

Um, she was with, I believe within her first two years of life and so, um,

Daughter was unharmed, but some people who were passing by ended up finding Christine and called the police and Alan is serving life in prison.

So her story is really important to tell because our organization, we started in 1984 and we were named Regional Domestic Abuse Services.

And this is one of the worst case scenarios that could have happened and right here in our community.

And it was right when our movement was really taking off.

So our agency actually approached her family and asked if we could rename our organization in Christine Ann's honor.

And they agreed.

And so now her name lives on as a symbol of hope for others in our community.

And in her case, she had left.

She had left that relationship, right?

And that is the most dangerous time in an abusive relationship is when somebody is leaving or preparing to leave.

And it's sad as that is, if that's not the only story.

I mean, even, I think Wisconsin, safe, nice people, what do they call that?

Wisconsin nice.

Wisconsin nice, yeah.

It's not all that nice because you were even saying that statistically we're a little higher than we should be on the map.

Yeah, so Wisconsin is eighth in the nation for domestic violence homicides.

So one in every

six states are like one in

every six domestic violence homicides are taking place in Wisconsin.

So that's.

Yeah,

not in a good way either.

So it is something that is continuously rising from year to year.

And we try to do as much as we can to get the word out, do so much community education, help people understand what domestic.

abuse is and that there's assistance.

And it's not always 21, 23-year-olds.

There's some older people that need to see a two that have been

living

this life.

Men, women, children.

We almost like brag about how much we drink in Wisconsin, the drunkest state, whatever.

Is that a factor?

You know, so what I will say is that drugs, alcohol, stress, mental illness are all things that can

Exaggerate the really exaggerate the abuse, but it is not the cause okay, so But those are definitely factors that can often escalate a situation

Wow So you this is your focus.

I'm gonna ask you yeah, why you got into that before I do that The the support from the community it's there.

I'm assuming you're a nonprofit.

We

are right and you've expanded from what six seven eight beds to

Don't you have like 64 now?

Well, so we were actually 37.

We were.

Yes.

So we were a pretty decent

size.

Pretty good size.

Yeah.

But our our shelter, our previous building had a lot of limitations.

And so it

all buildings always

do.

They do.

It is.

It

is

an absolutely gorgeous home.

And it did us well for over 30 years.

But we had two separate buildings.

And when we're talking about domestic violence survivors and the safety aspect that goes along with that, having two separate buildings where we're housing people in our shelter for them to walk outside and go into the main building, which is all open, right?

There's a security risk in that.

And so that was a big factor in us.

And

the other thing I think you'll have to understand is what when, so I work at a homeless place when a homeless person shows up there alone.

They have nothing.

When people show up with you, they may have kids in tow.

I mean, it's it's like 64 families is a heck of a lot more than 64 people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, you must have a lot of support to get that done because these kids got to go to school.

They got to get their health checkups and they got to eat.

We have, um, we have about 30 staff.

So, um, a lot of people are surprised by that too.

And, you know, and we have definitely

expanded.

I think we, a lot of people, and I, we've both dealt with you, your type of organization.

So we kind of see the behind the curtain, but a lot of people might think, Oh, it's just one little house and this poor lady went there and she got to, they have no idea the magnitude of what you guys do.

Do they?

Yeah, absolutely.

A lot of people just view us as the shelter, but, you know, we offer so many different services.

The shelter is just.

a piece of what we do in the community.

But it is a very important piece because it offers that safety and security for people who are fleeing that active domestic violence.

You just briefly said men and women.

I think everybody thinks it's a hundred percent.

And I look at the Chinese said we've worked with people like not you specifically but organizations like yours.

That can happen too.

That's got to be tough that first step to come forward.

Absolutely, you know I think that our name being more female centered a lot of people have the misconception that we only serve women and children and that is not the case We have Our agency serves everybody domestic abuse does not discriminate and neither do our services So they're inclusive.

We have a handful of men that stay in our shelter every single year more so that

that work with our outreach services.

But in terms of men who are impacted by domestic abuse, there's a lot of barriers

also.

As victims.

Yes, as victims who maybe feel that they can't come forward or there's a lot of shame surrounding that or feel like I should be able to handle this or I'm not gonna be believed.

And a lot of people.

That's one of the biggest curses guys were born with.

Asking for help or do you know what I mean?

I will 100% say that the majority of the people that we see are female or women who who are seeking our support but

But it is very important to know that every single person, anyone can be impacted.

So let's talk about, I mean, you're the director, right?

Yes.

You're the executive director of the Christian Domestic Abuse Services.

And we talked about you got a new facility, 64 people you can answer.

But you must have a...

Outpatient.

You call it outpatient.

People would just call and say, look, this isn't working for me.

I mean, tell us about people that can just contact you anonymously, I hope.

Yes, absolutely.

So we have a 24-7 helpline.

We have trained advocates that are there.

24-7, 365 days a year.

They're there answering the phones, providing that support.

Our 24-7 helpline is anonymous.

So people can call and just, I want to chat about what's going on.

Or if you're a friend or family member of someone who's impacted by abuse, and you want to know how to best support them, that's what that 24-7 helpline is for.

So we offer that along with our 24-7 emergency shelter.

And then we do provide outreach services.

residential support.

We actually have three locations so our primary shelter and location is here in Oshkosh off of Algoma and then we have an outreach office in Monashah inside of the Levin building and we have another outreach office in Green Lake inside of the Town Square community

building

because our our agency serves all of Winnebago County and all of Green Lake County.

I'm gonna slip you read this because I don't want to ask it on the air.

Oh sure.

Ask this question.

Yes,

okay.

I was go ahead and so what I just wrote down because I didn't know

if it was so it did What he asked was did the little girl turn out okay?

It was tragic.

I didn't want to hear about it on the air and no deserts I don't want to bring up something so tragic.

No,

I'm sorry.

I Yes, and

A really powerful and wonderful moment that we had, Kristine Ann's daughter was, her family actually came and did a tour this past summer.

And they got to see the new building and I actually got the chance to meet her family and her daughter.

So it was a really, it was a really wonderful moment to be able to meet the

whole family.

Yeah, absolutely.

All right.

I

want to talk about some of the programs you offer, because I think people just think it's a shelter.

But I mean, you have everything in here from the advocacy, the teen programs for kids.

Yeah,

we

do.

I want to

get back to some of those, because I think people look, I think we know it's an issue.

but it's just not, here's the place to sleep.

There's

so

much more that you offer.

And you're sticking around for another segment.

We're not letting you go.

This is too fast.

I'm just sitting here, my mouth open.

You talk about these wonderful things you're doing and the need for them.

I'll

stay here all

day, guys.

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here, coming your way from downtown Oshkosh.

Very, very special guest.

Alicia, we've actually got really nice texts your Todd just posted.

Regarding your guest from Oshkosh, one of my favorite quotes, real people do real things.

A collective of a whole bunch of people who do things in their own locale, in their own neighborhoods, the sum is bigger than the parts and the parts will grow.

I love that.

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Thank

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Thank you to whoever said that.

So with your facility that you have here, this Christie Ann Domestic Abuse Services, again, I think

people know and that it's a shelter.

People that can get away, but let's talk about a few other things that you offer.

I want to talk a little bit more about the children and teen programs.

Like I said, we know the shelter, but education, prevention, tell us what other things you offer there.

Yes, so I was kind of talking a little bit about our outreach services.

So just to put into kind of like numbers, our shelters

in our previous building, we don't have the numbers yet for this new building, but we served about 300, between 250, 300 individuals in our shelter.

We serve upwards of like 600 plus in our outreach services.

So those are the folks who maybe don't need the safety of the shelter, but they still need that emotional support, options, resources, material assistance, whatever that may look like.

And then we also provide legal advocacy.

So that's a huge piece of what

we

do, which is

helping people with restraining orders, divorce, custody.

We're not lawyers, but we are immersed in the legal system and can help them walk through that very intimidating and overwhelming

process.

I'm sure one of the first things you gotta say is, well, I don't know if this is that big of a deal, but he does this once in a while, and your first thing's gotta be, that's not okay, because it just escalates, I mean.

Yeah,

well, a lot of people think that domestic violence is just physical.

And it's not.

It's so much more than that.

There are so many different tactics that are used in an abusive relationship where it's financial abuse, it's emotional abuse, it's psychological.

There's so many different elements that could go into it.

If

I could ask a follow up what Jim was saying, when should somebody make that call?

When would you say is that, okay, that's a tipping point.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

What advice would you give on that?

What I would say is that every single person

has a different point in time in which they feel is the time for them to come forward.

They are the experts of their own lives.

But what they need to know is that we are here 24-7.

Our 24-7 helpline, there's no obligation to give us any information.

If you just want to talk, we're there.

If you want to figure out your options, we're there.

If you just need that extra support or that validation.

We are there.

So that helpline, that phone number is 920-235-5998.

And like I said, there is a kind, compassionate person on the other end of that phone.

And it just takes a phone call.

Right.

And Johnny's asking about, what's the flare on this thing about?

Controlling is.

really with people power and control it is it's can be like you said it can be the female controlling the male I mean it doesn't always have to be this guy but that can escalate and you hear these stories some of this stuff escalates pretty quick too which is surprised me but yeah I'm so it's never too early to call you

absolutely and so another program that we offer to is our youth services so we have an

a team of advocates that work specifically with children who are impacted by abuse in some capacity.

So whether it's happening within their home, between their parents or their guardians, or maybe they're a teenager, they're getting into their first dating relationship, and it's not a healthy one.

We have advocates that go into the schools, they meet one-on-one with kids, they provide that additional support for them, and we're just a safe person for them to help process through what's going on.

We also do prevention education in the

So we're doing presentations to classrooms or sometimes even auditoriums on what is healthy relationships, what is...

what's a healthy friendship, boundaries, consent, what does that look like?

And so really breaking it down to help prevent the cycle of abuse from continuing.

You know, a lot of kids

that are

growing up in that environment,

those are

exposed to.

And they think that's, it's okay.

Yeah, it's normalized.

And so that's really what we're trying to do

is

interrupt that cycle.

It's just wonderful.

Just fantastic, man.

I'm glad

you're getting into those schools because you hear about, you know, everything abuse, I think they think it's like,

you know, Christiane, that's married for a year or two, things went, you know, but schools, you hear these stories

about

their abusive relationships and they're 16, it's like, that's not gonna get better.

And then I just wanted to touch on briefly, there's people who are older and they're 60s

that should

come and see you as well.

I mean, that's tough to do, because I've lived with this guy, but it's like, you gotta,

You're still an individual.

You've got to get out of that

thing.

It's hard.

There's people who could be married for 30 years and are just afraid of the unknown of what does it look like if I leave?

Will I be able to support myself?

Are they going to harm me?

Are they going to harm themselves if I leave?

So there's so many different factors.

And you answer that.

That's going to say the first thing.

two, three, five, five, nine, nine, eight.

Yeah, that's what we call you.

You give them comfort that it is okay to come see us.

I

mean, there's

a way out of this thing.

But make

that phone call,

right?

If they have any doubts, if they're asking those questions, what you just said, if they're asking themselves those questions, let's ask it to somebody else,

correct?

Doesn't cost anything, it's anonymous and just, you know.

Yeah, it's so important to know the resources too, so that a lot of people, they may not know what to say if someone discloses what's happening to them.

out in the community, but it's important to know what resources are in our area.

And two thirds of your business business, two thirds of your work is outpatient.

So I mean, it's it's a very common thing to do.

So

absolutely.

All right, well, I hope people contact you if you know someone.

Encouraged them to give you a call because I think it's great what you're doing.

Thank you

so much.

How about donations?

Yes In order to operate we rely heavily on the community to really help us help us do what we do and so

monetary donations are incredible.

They help us to have a lot of flexibility, but there's also in kind donations.

So batting, cleaning supplies, canned foods, those are all things that we take.

And we have an updated list on our website that has all of our current needs,

which is

www.christineand.net.

Okay, look up that website.

There's a lot of information on there, but you're right, you're nonprofit.

We need donations, and there's some great people in this community.

Alicia Wenger, Executive Director, Christine and Domestic Abuse Services.

You just blew us away here over the last 20 minutes with what you do.

Thank you, fellas.

Thanks for having me.

And you opened our eyes to this is so needed.

Oh, yeah.

Thank you, whatever we can do for you.

Thank you so much.

Let us know.

Thank you.

My name is Amer.

Back after this.

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim

Schmidt.

96.5 FM, WISS, of course, the Civic Media app.

Right down here in our studios at WISS in Oshkosh, special thanks to Alicia Wenger, executive director of the Christine and Domestic Abuse Services Man.

She was just phenomenal talking about what they do down here.

Now we're going to switch sites to something else here.

This is brought to you by I in the community, brought to you by Insight Eye Care.

But first, and maybe these guys can help us out, we've still got our contest going for our best slogan.

We'll explain it to you guys.

We didn't win.

They had the WBA awards last week.

It's Wisconsin Broadcasters Association.

The jazillion people, and they give out awards for the best of this, the best of that.

We took second, and we're very disappointed on that.

And we're not like, well, that's great.

No, it's not.

We blame it on our marketing department.

Right.

We're one of those things.

Who's Todd?

Winner, die.

So we're looking for a tagline.

So it's mine on the mayor, you know people to remember right like our hawk like not the best in the West because we're in the West but you know I'm talking about just a tagline like McDonald's would use or you know you're McDonald's well that didn't work but there's just a

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Then we had other ones like Mino the Mayor.

What'd you expect?

Right.

So we got a lot of snarky people.

So think about that when you guys get

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You guys are the creative guys.

You guys are

creative guys.

And it's amazing what you're doing besides academics, outside of academics.

We're going to get

to that.

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I'm going to have your, your teachers say this word for me.

So how do we say B I K E O S H?

Introduce yourself and tell us how to pronounce it.

Hi, I'm Rick, the social studies teacher.

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How many people are involved?

How much you guys get involved?

This is a big deal for you guys.

Introduce yourselves and tell us more about it.

Okay, yeah.

I'm Caden Leaderhouse.

I'm the student leader for Bikosh.

And, um, yeah.

See how he said that?

So you

mean

Bikosh?

You guys like any

sense of his laughing at you, Johnny?

Okay.

My name is Fanique Thompson.

I'm just helping out volunteering for the.

My leader.

That's awesome.

High school kids that are getting involved in the community.

And just to remind people, the ninth annual bike gosh at the city-wide event aimed at improving bike safety and building on the local biking culture here in Oshkosh.

And

I'm just here for my leader too.

His leader of, okay.

How'd you get involved?

How many liters in a gallon?

No one knows.

No one knows.

We're going to see that guy Friday.

Did you know him?

Okay, he's pretty funny.

He's going to be in Green Bay Friday and he's... We can't go all over the place.

We do.

And that's why, you know, might on the mayor, you know, ADD, you know,

that's that's one of our takers.

How'd you get

involved in all this?

So my freshman year, it was like a graded project we had to do.

And then I just like loved it.

So then my sophomore year, I just volunteered my time into working at a pit stop and then

I just rode like the rest of the time.

And so I figured since I love doing like biking and doing bike, gosh, so much, I just do it as my junior project.

And I'll tell you what, this is pretty extensive.

Explain a little bit more about, and it's the ninth annual, but tell you the goals here about improving bike safety and all the different things with the bike culture.

Yeah.

So like we, um, so we just wanted to like, we know bike biking is a huge part in like a lot of people's lives, sometimes in like, like Madison, like as a great example, but like.

Oshkosh has It's a smaller city compared to like Madison and biking is still very important here And we just want to make biking like safer in Oshkosh We want to make more people bike like we just want it to be a more community like base thing

and bikings Yeah, we're talking just a second, but you talk about the bike lanes and the safety aspect But you know, let's not forget the health part of biking.

Yeah, I mean

that's

way up there.

I mean, and Madison is one of the healthiest cities.

They always come up like a top.

We Green Bay can become the drinking city.

I wish we would do more of what you guys like you here.

How about you?

How'd you get involved in all this?

So last year I volunteered and this year it's graded, but it really doesn't feel like that.

And, you know, we went to Madison yesterday.

We've seen all the people that depend on the.

Tell us more about that trip, you guys.

Go ahead.

Yeah.

So yesterday we went to Madison as a group for Communities One, which is.

Freshman and sophomores and we just seen like the amount of people that depend on bikes We seen the community bike program on how people could get different bikes and if it's needed for them how they could get help

They really do it all from from bike that you could rent, you know just for the day

they

got and that's kind of a We live in Wisconsin.

That's kind of a 12 month biking community down there.

Yeah, that's great.

No, would you find out in Madison?

What you think about it down there?

Um, so yesterday, yeah, we went to Madison.

We just seen all the people that really depend on the bikes and we seen all the infrastructure like dead bike elevators and stuff.

So,

really?

Yeah.

Oh, cool.

So I'm still a bit bone broke.

Like how you guys want to use biking for the rest of your lives.

I mean, you guys are so young in high school and doesn't seem like it for what you're doing.

This is so awesome what you're doing.

But tell us a little bit about how you want to make this a part of your life.

Yeah.

So I.

Personally like I love like physical activity like I love working out and I love like biking and so like Biking is just something I enjoy because like it's like almost a long time like for yourself like just to gather yourself and so like I just like love biking

When we talk about this education educate the bikers, but you know the vehicles too have to we had to respect each other I mean biking isn't like

Everything's for you.

I mean, you're right.

Talk about a little bit of what people can learn on this On this day that you're gonna have the night.

Yeah, so on May 17th, we're gonna have bike ash 25 and so There's 20 pit stops around the city that like people can bike to and like collect stamps from and like we just want to use that to Help like show the biking infrastructure that I'm Oshkosh has

and like have like, and just like also educate our drivers on like,

yeah.

And it's pretty cool that you go to those 20 stops in your bike.

It's a heck of a lot easier than it is going in a car.

Yeah.

I thought I liked about bikes.

Everybody freaks out about parking, parking, parking, parking, you know, and with bikes, you're kind of there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you, have you done this before?

Did you do the pit stops or

is this your first time?

Okay, tell me about that.

Last year I volunteered for the pit stops just like on my own free will.

And what happens at the pit stop?

They check their stamps or get stamped, basically the card.

Yeah.

So they all have pits, pit passes, right?

And you're just able to start it off at the different pits.

And one of

them is right here, I believe at the studios, right, Todd?

Yeah, cool.

Awesome.

And then the weather is supposed to be perfect.

Yes.

They when the pit, when you fill your pit stop card to 20 of them is, you know, you get something.

Yeah.

So I think it can go more into that.

Yeah.

So each stamp you get, you get one ticket for a raffle basket.

And then we also sectioned off each like pit stop depending on where they are in the city.

Like we have a downtown section.

We have like a south section of like Oshkosh.

And so each one you get, you get a raffle ticket.

Each like little like section you get, you get an extra raffle ticket.

And then you can bring those stamps down to Oshkosh North.

That's where our celebration is going to be.

And you can get your tickets and go.

Our different raffle baskets.

What if somebody doesn't have a bike and then want to take part you guys have any for renter to loan or anything like that?

We do not actually Something that's very very important if you want to be a serious biker like myself.

Oh, he's not gel seats

Gel seats are so important that has discouraged and cause serious injuries to so many people if

you don't have a gel seat I've experienced if you

don't even want me to go into the trauma I suffered from not having a gel seat

back to these guys you don't want to know you guys I

don't want to ruin

your lives by

thinking what could happen down the road

how about okay how about some advice for bikers like what what advice you give and then I want to know what you think if you're the mayor what what can the city do to enhance

biking

So I think that That's a good question.

I think biking especially like here in Oshkosh you still have to be very cautious of like drivers like

Because drivers aren't as used to yielding to bikes as like Madison.

It's a vehicle city.

I mean, yeah, it's

those Green Bay and Appleton's doing a pretty good job.

And there's times you're

in Green Bay, Jim, when I'm driving down and somebody's on the street and I think, geez, buddy, why are you in the middle?

But then you realize he's in a bike lane.

Yes.

I mean, he's in a legitimate

way.

And we

got to realize that as drivers.

There's lines there.

There's a bike there.

And there's still the cars driving on that pass and on the right.

Yeah.

You

know

what I mean?

That's not your lane.

Yeah.

But again, the bicyclists got to yield.

You know, you can't cut in front of cars.

We don't like that either.

I mean, I do both.

So I just think I have respect for both.

Both vehicles and bikes.

But you're saying that in Oshkosh, you think the infrastructure is pretty good?

Yeah, I think it's decent for a smaller city compared to Madison.

Yeah.

But for the second part of your question, I think we should just host more biking events.

I know Bike Osh is a big one.

I don't know too many other ones on like the top of my head, but I feel like we could definitely like create more awareness for biking

Can I bring in your social studies

teacher?

I just think how easy it is to bike.

It's not that expensive.

You can get a nice bike for 75 You'll use one but like John does But you can get a nice bike and like we talked about how the convenience of just

Parking and everything so yeah, you're right people need to get exposed to bikes because maybe some of them haven't ridden a bike in some time You never know

I just want to say when I say introduce yourself once more time My name is Rick leap and you are the social studies teacher in the program You were that teacher that we always wanted in high school that would take people out of the classroom

Absolutely.

Well,

it's funny you said that because every Saturday we do community rides.

And so one of the questions that you were mentioning, Mayor, about how do you create more safety, I think the point of the event is the more bikers you get out into the community.

the more visible you are, the more used to vehicles get used

to all the

individuals.

And so on Saturday mornings, we get 15 to 20 kids that'll join me in a ride and we use a different infrastructure.

And Oshkosh has some great stuff, bike lanes to the Wyawash Trail, to the Riverwalk.

And so I get those kids on that infrastructure.

And to know how safe it is and that some people may not know you have these bike lanes too.

You don't need to expose them to that.

Yeah,

even like the rapidly flashing beacons.

You know that are at Murdock and over on Whistle Street until someone uses them and then all of a sudden all of these cars stop and now you're starting to create this habit and awareness for exactly the bikers just

For John sake he gets them out of school.

He said Saturday.

Oh All right, you're not as cool as I thought you were I did get him out of zero-hour class because both of the boys had zero-hour class I just before you say goodbye.

I would not you You teach leadership to absolutely.

I would just say something about how that

fits into what these guys are doing.

I mean, that's so important.

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, first of all, leaders got to put themselves out here, right?

And they got to extend themselves and stretch themselves.

They're in here this morning with you.

I mean, they're deathly or probably afraid.

What?

They come out of this and like I tell them, I do the gyms and intimidating guy.

Right.

I do do the paper and pencil test yet, but this is the true test, right?

And they walk out of here feeling like they they've impacted their community and they've represented their project.

So

those are those are the cool things that this program allows.

It's the way the world works, too.

I mean, you read theory, these guys are smart teachers, but to really get out there and put the theory to the practice like.

You wrote the press release and here you are sitting here.

Okay.

Well, I just said I did it.

You'll learn to

take

credit.

You'll never ever

occur in the media

if you don't take credit for things you don't do.

You'll take credit for it.

No, I just think that's great.

Here you are talking to, you know, thousands of people.

And I think that's that's the real world.

So congratulations.

I think that's great.

You guys are here.

Do you guys need emotional support, not emotional support, financial support or anything for you guys?

I need emotional support.

We're the ones

that need emotional support.

Actually, this is what Caden, as one of the project's leaders had to do and the two others, they went and sought outdoor prizes.

And the point is, is to expose the community to wonderful places like this,

as

well as other local places.

So the local businesses have already truly stepped up.

Awesome.

Thanks

so much for what you do.

This is great.

Congratulations, guys.

You guys are really impressive, man.

I wasn't like you guys in high school, but it was Jim.

We got started quick break.

Thanks for being here

in downtown Oshkosh and a sunny, sunny morning.

Very, very impressive.

Two young men there from Oshkosh, North High School.

Kate in the Leaderhouse and Feneke Thompson.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

So like, like by gosh, but put a K there.

Why

can't I do, I finally

got

a new

Pisco weekend down pat.

Why can't I get this down

pat?

Because you're

putting the accent on the wrong syllable.

You have to do by gosh.

by cash

by

cash

by cash twenty five by cash twenty five by cash twenty five by cash by cash.

OK.

So all right.

We didn't I don't know if we spent enough time on the whole event nine until noon on the 17th.

Right.

So the 17th and just contact these guys have phone number here two three six fifty fifty nine.

Yep.

This is a cool thing.

You get the prizes.

You go to twenty different locations to pick up your stamp.

But

I think what's more important about that is just more information on the biking culture here in Oshkosh.

Totally

agree.

And I thought that the TG brought up a great point.

The more people that are out there on bikes, the more drivers will kind of get into that routine.

So I think that's great what they're doing, educating drivers and bikers and once again, Lakeshark Park Four Seasons Building.

in Oshkosh.

And if you need more information, once again, it's May 17th, 9 to 12.

It goes on 920-236-5059-236-5059.

And they

got the Bikosh Facebook page.

You can look at that as well.

We should bring

Peter and Tracy Fluckey down for it.

Yeah, they'd

be great.

Still looking for a winner for our contest.

Again, for our bumper sticker type thing.

Got some other ones here.

Mine on the bear.

Thank God they have textures.

Alright, thank you.

Mine on the bear.

Two old white dudes who need metamucil.

Look who sent that one in.

Who is that?

Who?

Lisa Hale.

Oh.

It's

a minor there

listen learn laugh love it Dave.

Thank you very much.

All right,

Dave.

That's that's that's in the top three

then extra got nice one here says looking forward to Jim's presentation to the leadership Green Bay class of 2025 next Tuesday

Wednesday.

Is it Tuesday?

It says here Tuesday.

That's gonna be a problem.

I

think

it's Wednesday.

I think it's Wednesday at one o'clock.

I'm looking forward to that.

A lot of people graduate of Leadership Green Bay.

just talked about how that exposes you to so

much.

You want some first test for a good leader?

If they show up on time.

You know what I miss?

Not being mayor is an assistant.

So I'll look at that.

But I'm looking forward to that talk.

Hey, also another thing here we haven't talked about.

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Tomorrow we will have a keyword for them to text in like we do with our other contests.

So be listening in for that.

I believe in the seven o'clock hour tomorrow morning.

Fantastic.

Yeah,

that'll be a lot of fun.

Good.

Great stuff going on.

I'm

actually

getting nervous.

I gotta go look at my phone and see what I'm doing.

Yeah.

It's one of those talks like is it's like you giving a talk though on certain things like you know the subject so I'm not I

won't

panic it's the time I'm figured out

I will say something that you have no idea well yeah you would how many times I'm driving to an event and I'm double-checking my mind oh yeah okay we're okay no I didn't pay enough it

at

the so-and-so

American Legion, you know what I mean?

We're just different things like that and you're driving there and it's like, oh crap.

So that does happen.

I used to DJ weddings and the entire way to the wedding.

Did I remember the special song, the father daughter dance?

Are they doing the thing before or after?

When did they do in the garden?

I

didn't know you DJed

weddings.

I've always wanted to do that.

No, you don't.

Yeah, I do.

No, because you... No, they don't.

I don't have a belt.

I don't.

He

just earned

a rare belt.

It was crazy.

Hang on, hang on, hang on.

Monster can doesn't

work.

But a DJ can make or break a wedding.

at 100%, right?

They're not that cheap.

I mean, you think it, well, we're going with a DJ instead of

a band.

Not at all.

It's not that much cheaper.

Yeah.

If you're really good, you're worth it.

And there are some really good DJs out there.

I was mediocre at best, and I knew what worked, right?

You always played the twist.

But you know music so well.

Yeah, but then you get the people that come up and go, you know.

You know, it would get this party going is some AC DC and it's like right after dinner, right?

You're like, yeah, we'll get to the bride

said, don't play AC DC.

That's exactly right.

I did a lot.

I did people requesting.

I did a wedding here in Oshkosh, not that, uh, you know, right outside town at the Westward Ho campground.

I did a wedding and they wanted nothing but country music.

Okay.

And the wedding party was the only group dancing.

Nobody else was dancing.

So somebody came up and said, Hey, can you play some Van Morrison brown-eyed girl?

Perfect song, right?

Yeah.

Played it.

The crowd just went nuts, went on the dance floor.

All of a sudden the bride was walking up to the DJ stand and she said,

I only want country music.

Oh, man.

And by, I don't know.

Yeah, it didn't last long.

The wedding was done by the

1030.

Wow.

What's like the song?

What song do you play to get people on the dance floor?

I mean, back then it was, it was like the brown eyed girls.

And so I don't know anymore.

That has changed so much.

But we had Big Mouth that there's some bands that just are good at that, like

Big Mouth.

They

did just that.

It was the whole night.

I mean,

I swear to God.

This isn't a negative towards Big Mouth.

I love them.

I love them so much.

But I was at our buddy Kramer's.

But the thing is, they're so good that people just sat like they're at a concert.

They didn't want to dance.

They want to just listen to them and watch

them.

You know how to care of that?

Oh, took the mic and said.

I paid a lot of money

for that.

This is not

a show band.

This is a dance band.

And I'll tell you what, Johnny, they danced till all

night.

It was great.

You were scared of you.

But I did.

I said that it's on the video thing.

But we had to go with it.

Had to go with the DJ.

We went with a DJ for our other daughters.

Because he's from Columbia, Christian from here.

And there's not there's sort of in a band that can play both.

Right.

So the guys

like, I can do this thing.

And it was awesome wedding.

So

yeah, DJs are great.

Let's go.

Let us know.

Anybody out there Texas where like the songs a DJ would have would use the floor to get people on the dance floor and then it brings the ice and then it kind of.

Yeah.

Do they still do that?

Yes, they do.

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Connie Carmichael Oshkosh Chamberlain.

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Beautiful sunny morning out there.

Still a little chilly, 38 in Green Bay, 39 in Ampton, 41 in Oshkosh.

High in the upper fifties today and then it gets warm for the rest of the week after that.

Great guest today, Alicia Wenger, executive director of the Christine and Domestic Abuse Service here in Oshkosh.

Kayden Leaderhouse and Feneke Thompson.

By Kosh.

My gosh.

My gosh.

My gosh 25.

Great event.

Coming up

on the

17th.

And now, Connie Carmichael from the Oshkosh Chamber.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I'm so excited to be with Mino and the Mayor.

All right.

All right.

Thank you very

much.

Put it on the bucket list.

OK.

Hey, welcome.

We were talking before.

We were really broadcast in Green Bay, Appleton and Oshkosh.

But boy, can a good chambermaker break a city, right?

I mean, just elevate it to that next level.

And you're doing great here.

Oh.

That is so true.

I mean, I love all the members and all the businesses here in Oshkosh.

It really helps grow the community.

And we are so excited.

The networking support that you have.

The networking is out of this world.

It's amazing how many people come to our events, make new business friends and everything.

It's very exciting.

I don't know if per capita the size of Oshkosh versus the number of people you bring in from outside for events between EAA and the volleyball tournament and some of these other things.

You guys got to be top in the state, aren't you?

Well, thank you.

You've got your hand in that

as a chamber.

Yes, absolutely.

I'm surprised when I get calls from out of the state that people want to join the chamber that are moving their business here, opening a new business here.

I get really excited that some of the companies buy businesses.

We have so many of you probably came into town.

You saw a lot of new apartment complexes.

Absolutely.

Myren's busy.

It's just totally growing.

I love it.

So for you.

So Chamber, there's large, medium and small businesses in your Chamber.

Right.

900 members.

I was going through your benefits and I know some other Chambers, but I think one of the coolest things you offer is that EAP program for small businesses because that's the employee assistance program, which

I think

everybody knows.

But in running a business, it really sometimes isn't the product or the marketing or the cost, it's the people.

And when there's conflict, you as a manager, it's like, fix this.

You don't know how to fix it.

They're not your kids.

So to set them to EPA, I think is a great benefit that the Oshkosh Chamber

offers.

Absolutely, Jim.

That is great.

With that, Sean Fitzgerald, he's our economic outlook person, and he does a great job getting a meeting with people and finding what their need is.

We have, like I said, we have four pillars, the economic development, resources.

We have advocacy, education and talent, which is awesome.

And then, of course, the events and programs.

And that's what...

I'm all about here today.

Well, that's what I mean.

This is one of those cities.

It's not just, oh, we're a manufacturing city.

We've been that way for 150 years, and that's what we're going to hang our hat on.

You guys still embrace that.

And we talk about this all the time, ad nauseam.

How much we love that you guys embrace your history here, Nash.

Like I said, when I was driving here, like not even a half a block away, there's that beautiful, unbelievable granary that it says right in there.

Built in 1883.

The next one, 1889.

Right next to us, a fire station that probably used horses to pull the wagon.

I mean, these are really, really historical buildings right here in these cool little neighborhoods like the one we're in right now.

I think that for somebody from outside of an area to come and see how you guys have embraced your history.

That's pretty cool.

I absolutely love that, you know, especially in the Pain Arts Center and the Oshkosh Public Museum.

We have so much to offer in Oshkosh, and I myself moved here a little over 30 years ago, and once I moved here, I said I'm not leaving.

Where did you come

from?

Where did you come from?

All over.

I was born in Germany.

I grew up down south.

I still have a little bit of twang, sorry.

I hear that once in a while.

Mobile Alabama.

Wow.

My granddaddy worked for WKRG.

No, Kenny.

Well, that's cool.

between Todd and Lisa, they're Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia.

Oh,

yeah.

Well,

how

y'all do

it?

Right.

You didn't bless your heart.

You didn't really need to twang when she said granddaddy.

That's really not Midwest thing.

That's cool.

Were you an

Army brat in

Germany?

I was.

I was for many years.

And I went to school there.

I went to the real kindergarten.

Um, and I absolutely loved it.

Was your mom originally German from Germany?

No, no, my mom was from Mobile.

My dad was from Mississippi.

Wow.

Yep.

But he was, uh, in the Army Air Force back in the day till they split up.

Air Corps Army Air

Corps.

Wow.

I

know it was 30 years ago.

Just quickly.

How did you get here?

Well, I moved around quite a bit in TV and radio.

Did you do

TV?

I did.

Here in town, back in the day, it was called OCAT, Oshkosh Community Access Television.

I even started up, helped start up with Andy Radick, a low-powered FM station, W-O-C-T.

Well, that's

cool.

comfortable right here

in front of a microphone.

Yes.

I was at North Dakota in North Dakota for one year to the day and had to get out of there.

And then I loved it when I got to Oshkosh.

Williston.

Williston.

I don't even know

that

one.

So were you a radio person and moving around and

stuff?

I did like background and automation and things like that.

And then did on air here in town.

That's cool.

Connie, Connie, what if you had a place

a note on something about Oshkosh.

We are able to attract companies to build here and create jobs.

We have the ability to have people open businesses.

What do you think as being the head of the chamber?

Why

is it?

I'm not the head of the chamber.

Well, you know what I'm saying.

I'm claiming as the head of the chamber.

You're the spokesperson.

I'm just one part of it.

What do you think though?

Why is that?

Why does Oshkosh always seem to perform really well in those areas?

Honestly, I think it's the people.

I was

just gonna

say.

I love the staff too at Discover Oshkosh.

Oshkosh community is so welcoming.

And it's really about the people first and the businesses second, but I think it's how people treat everyone.

They're so welcoming when they come to town.

I felt that when I first moved to town as well.

We've got many people on here from Oshkosh.

And I will say, I think you're, I know you're right about the people part of it, but the people who live here, they're not leaving.

And I think that says a lot for a new business.

It's like, if they come here and it's like, Oshkosh, that's pretty good.

We're kind of looking at maybe going to Nashville or something, but nobody says that here.

They don't.

And I don't know.

I feel that why would you leave?

We have so much to offer.

And actually,

We have surrounding areas too from Milwaukee, Appleton, Vondellette, Green Bay.

The town

of Dale.

The

town of

Dale.

What I think is cool about Oshkosh too is that you do reach out past the municipality.

Your food pantry will serve anyone that comes in.

The domestic, we just had somebody on here from the domestic abuse shelter.

And it's very regional.

And I think that's healthy for you to be regional versus.

Oh, absolutely.

And father cars.

And there's so many things for

everybody Christine and center like you had on earlier I was over there a couple of weeks ago and That place is amazing all the things that they offer

and so in recruiting talent They look for a lot of things and sure you've done your surveys What are you looking for but boy do they want a community that takes care of the social issues because if you just say you know We got fireworks.

We got soccer.

It's like okay.

What else?

What are you doing for?

Because every community has homeless people everybody has domestic the people who deal with it

are more respected and appreciated by young talent than the people who don't.

Yeah, I agree with that.

I have three millennials, so I can speak to that.

They really look for that with an interview, they look for jobs, people who, and I just think, Oshkosh, you're there.

I believe so, and I think we're a very diverse community as well.

You're absolutely right, Tim.

How about the university?

Do you have a pretty close affiliation

with them?

Yes, we do quite a bit of things with the university as well.

We have a lot of programs over there at the Culver Center.

We just met the new chancellor a couple of weeks ago when we had an event there.

And the chamber events, you have a lot of events that go on, but one of your big ones is the chamber breakfast.

I've gone to that a couple times.

You bring in some pretty big-time speakers.

Oh, yeah, we do.

We have so many different events and happening.

Something that is great for everyone because some people can make the morning events like we also have an Oshkosh connection breakfast.

We have an AM Oshkosh, which is wonderful.

What AM Oshkosh is more of

a networking group where you get to go behind the scenes at different larger companies and manufacturing companies.

We even went to the prison once.

That was very interesting.

Do you have a leadership Oshkosh program?

Green Bay has one, and I actually took that 25 years ago, but it really exposes you.

What

day

was that?

What year was that?

Somebody texted, Jim, I'm so looking forward to seeing you speaking at our Leadership Green Bay Conference next Tuesday.

And Jim goes, I think that's Wednesday.

Is that Tuesday?

I

was wondering why you said that.

That's just a great thing.

And if people can learn more about their community, I mean, your focus is your business.

You've got to make your business successful.

But there's so much.

else going on in the community?

With the leadership Oshkosh program, Trina Walt is amazing.

She's the lead for our leadership Oshkosh program.

We have quite a few programs with the leadership Oshkosh program.

We also just started a mindset, a leadership mindset program.

We have a lunch and lead that we have at the Oshkosh Country Club.

We have youth leadership.

So we start early and we keep them going and they are

true leaders of the Oshkosh Chamber.

I

just want to throw two other quick things so that we haven't mentioned that two cool things of Oshkosh.

I think one of the most underrated things is the Veterans Museum.

Yes.

I think that's awesome.

And we didn't mention a team that plays just down the street here at

the

Wisconsin Herd.

Oh my goodness.

Yes.

At venue works at the Wisconsin Herd, they are amazing.

Andy, who runs venue works there.

He has done an incredible job.

He just started a little over a little less than a year ago.

The Veterans Museum.

We're actually excited because next year I'm already booking all of our events for next year and we are going to be doing a business after hours at the Veterans

Museum.

That's always fun.

Yeah, they are great.

We do a lot with them as well.

Beautiful.

And I just want to say that you're Rena and I'm glad it's successful.

I know like a lot of businesses, you know, kind of.

It was tough to get going, but your events also support the community.

And I think that's pretty cool.

He did something for the homeless one time.

I think he did something for the veterans one time.

And I think that's great that they're so connected.

They're not just out on an island.

You're absolutely right.

There's so many different things, and I apologize if I'm forgetting some of them, because there's so many we don't have time for.

Which is

great.

That's a great, that's

a great thing.

But call me.

Call me, I'll have lunch with you and we'll talk.

Okay, we'll do that.

I just, two other things I just want to mention on the benefits that you offer there, I think a small business.

the prescription drug card, that's getting crazy with healthcare.

So I'm glad the chamber stepped up and said, look, maybe we can help you.

And the other thing I just want to say that's, I think it's kind of funny to see is the suit of discount.

You actually give business people discount on clothes.

And I think we all need that.

Well, when you said about the healthcare stuff too, with the chamber, when you join the chamber, you can have as minimum as two to 99 employees and you can get on our network health plan as well.

Nice.

That's an expense.

And you got to have those benefits

today, especially nowadays.

That's right.

Very good stuff.

This

is awesome what you're doing like this.

So we love coming down here.

We just love this building and we love what you guys do in downtown Oshkosh and all the things.

And you know what's cool though too?

You get the young group here like these two young men.

We had

here and they're all in on so

they were amazing.

I was listening to they love

Oshkosh, too.

I mean, these guys are going to do this.

They're not getting any credit.

They just want to do it because they like biking.

They love Oshkosh.

You got to put this in your

radio voice to wrap this up.

OK, you say,

but we got to talk about splashing the summer.

OK, we'll talk about

that.

But then you got to send us to a break.

Oh, we'll be right back with my know in the mayor right after this.

You've heard songs about truck drivers many times their stories told.

How they pulled out a pitch bird for six days on the road about the Feather River.

Hey, welcome back.

Come on in the mirror.

Come your way from your

WISS studios down here in Oshkosh.

I shouldn't say down here because this is part of our home turf here in Oshkosh.

This is part of our town too.

Beautiful morning out there.

A lot of sunshine 41 in Green Bay now 39 out in 42 in Oshkosh.

Once again, we got a free ticket Friday coming up on WISS and WGB.

starts tomorrow, win four tickets to a Milwaukee Brewers game.

We're joined right here, Connie Carmichael Oshkosh Chamber, talking about some of just the great things you guys do.

And you know what, you guys are just getting started for this year.

Oh yeah, we never stop.

But pretty cool, the business expo you have, the speakers, the networking opportunities.

We talked about all that stuff, but you also have things coming up.

Tell me about the splash into Oshkosh.

Splash into summer.

Summer, okay, all right.

Yeah, let's let's just dive in.

Oh, I got it.

All right, go ahead.

What is it?

So Splash in the Summer is our great membership drive, so to speak.

But what's great about this is that we're promoting Waterfest, the Waterfest concert series right here in downtown Oshkosh.

And which

which is one of the cool venues in Northeast Wisconsin.

It is.

It is wonderful.

It's not only cool.

It's wet.

It's wild.

It's splashing around.

It really kicks off the summer concert series.

That's for sure.

So when you join the chamber, you receive, not only do you receive over $3,000 in benefits and savings, you also get 15 months for the price of 12 and drum roll, please.

There we go.

You

get it, that's wow.

That's enough

drums.

It's timpani

roll.

Although you'll hear that at Waterfest.

But you also get two free complimentary VIP season passes to all of the Waterfest 2025.

Oh, that's cool.

Is your lineup up?

No,

that's cool.

Oh, well, starting things off is.

I

guess this is a yes.

Yes, it is.

It starts June 19th and it is

Unbelievable.

We have hairball.

Hairball is kicking things off.

We have George Thurlgood coming.

Oh yeah.

Marsha Ball, Vic Ferrari.

Oh my gosh.

We have the producers, Steely Dan.

Oh my gosh.

So much more.

This is awesome.

You have to definitely go to waterfest.org to get the complete lineup.

And I think I got a little treat for some listeners toward the end of this program.

Do you want

me to introduce George Thurlgood?

You know one

baby one scotch one beer

so which one are you gonna have in your hand

all three

Wow

that's quite a lineup talking about that earlier before we even got on the other morning about how

important that is to a community and to people to gather outside for a live concert.

It is so fun.

People really get into it.

People dress in retro clothes.

They just have so much fun.

It's a great way to meet and greet people that you haven't seen in a while.

dancing, good music, kind of brings you, if you could go back in time, you know, it's such a fun time.

You bring the food trucks into all this

too?

We do have food, we have food, we have beer, soda, you name it.

That's great.

All right.

And you can take it, take your boat there.

And you can take your boat there because we are on the water still.

So where do we get all this?

What's the, is it on the chamber's website or is that on Ashkosh?

You contact me, Connie at Ashkosh.

And I will hook you up.

That's great.

Nice.

That's that's what

a good

lineup.

Yeah.

I'm so excited about George Thurgood.

It is amazing.

And I have to say, I don't

know.

Do you guys know how long Waterfest has been going on?

39 years.

So I was

going to say, she told

us.

I did tell you.

And I have to say, I have to say some of the original, not the original songs and everything else, but some of the original players of Waterfest who.

Helped with this is Mike Dempsey.

A lot of people know Mike Dempsey.

Of course, Rob Clayman, our CEO and president.

John Casper, Chuck Hurdle.

I'm sure there's many more.

And we have a lot of great people, great staff.

Alice Roberts from the Chamber and Jeff McBride, who helped kick all these things off.

It is amazing if you haven't been here for Waterfest.

You have to check out all the restaurants and everything that are going on where you can walk, go out to eat and then go down to water fast.

Connie, so you've done some radio and TV.

I'm going to make you Vanna White now

because we

do have some prizes

to

give away this morning.

So tell us what we've got

for listeners.

So first prize is not two, but four.

season passes to the Waterfest Concert Series.

That's fantastic.

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So what we'll do right now is you can text the studio, download the Civic Media app right away, choose WISS or WGBW say, hey, I want the tickets and we will randomly choose somebody for the four season passes and somebody else to win the four VIP for hairball.

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She comes prepared.

I'm even going to give you guys that you can use throughout the summer season.

I'll give you some free tickets for Waterfest as well.

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Back with more.

Mino and the.

mayor after

this.

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I got about a minute.

Okay, another minute to go.

I'm just

giving

a

tease.

Absolutely.

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tell me, I want to just touch a little bit on the recruitment to get people, I mean, finding talent.

Do we have enough time?

What do you do for that?

To bring new employees, keep employees?

What do you do for the young talent?

We need to get them here.

We have so much to offer.

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If you love working with a great group of people.

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for having me.

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Woo, right after.

Come to

this.

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Yeah, it was a great show.

Thanks.

I love

Jim.

Good morning.

It's gonna be awesome.

David Ruby, hypnotist.

Work well, hypnosis.

How you doing?

Doing well.

Good to see you.

Thanks.

All right.

You are a certified hypnotist.

Yes.

And you said you have several certificates.

Like what, what, what, how many fields does a hypnotist?

Why do you have several certificates?

Because I couldn't stop at one training.

I had to basically keep going.

My wife would say that I'm a bit compulsive in that regard, where if I have an interest in something, I keep doing it.

So I initially took hypnosis as interest.

Well, can I give my origin story, the brief version?

Yeah, absolutely.

So I was a medical librarian.

People, when they say, do your research, that was me.

I worked in a hospital for 11 and a half years.

I had a degree in research.

Teaching background before that and I would just research things so for doctors and physical therapists and stuff.

I think that sounds pretty cool Yeah, you're correct sir.

Yeah, so I was learning about that stuff and I I was a skeptic of hypnosis I thought it was again we see on TV waving pocket watches people's faces.

I'm click like chickens right a lot at least once today I got asked and I was curious about I thought it's probably nothing but I can research it I'm pub med Jackie I'll go on there and see what the research says

And when I found it, it was useful for things.

Well, that's cool.

Then I had read an account where it was used for surgical anesthesia.

Wow.

So at a certain point in history, you go back far enough, they didn't have anesthesia.

Right.

If you had surgery, you had to basically

Suck it up and hope you didn't get sepsis or going to shock and die

and you hate to say but the term bite the bullet comes from military

guys getting

up and they would literally do that

Yeah, I mean there their second thing was like here drink a lot of alcohol and hopefully right you know in okay in In Italy

world this is an earnest Hemingway's book for whom the bell told you that one or the other about that when he's an ambulance driver and Italy whatever and they got wounded and they were sort of and I said they were using grappa

as an anesthetic to just numb the pain a little bit.

That's what they were reduced to, so go

ahead.

Yeah, I was an English teacher, so I actually remember that book.

Oh, you remember that?

Yeah.

Yeah, great book.

Yeah.

Big Hemingway fan as a side.

But I researched.

You're proud that I've read all the Hemingway books?

She didn't read.

I read every

Hemingway book there is.

I bought the yellow book.

But I was

never

all that impressed with any of the movies.

Were you?

I don't know if I've seen any Hemingway movies.

Yeah.

Not if you read the books.

Big let down.

What a segue.

Yeah.

Anyway, so.

Who knew what this is going the structure

we go all over

I gotta

be honest with you.

I love it

Okay, I knew back to the the story for the visitors.

I was so I went on PubMed and essentially when I found it was useful for a surgical anesthesia I'm like, well, you can't fake that.

I mean, you know getting your you know, open heart surgery your appendix out.

Yeah, you know a leg getting cut off.

Yeah, feel no pain So that's how I got into it.

So essentially I learned of it just as a hobby and then

I was told, well, you can, you know, do this as a job, essentially, and help people.

And people are getting hit most either they're just curious about the mind and or they want to help people and or they want to dominate the world, which is not how it works.

Or else I'd have a better car, I suppose.

But so I I started taking classes and I got it just took an online class and like from a trainer who's actually well known now.

And then I took I took in person trainings at hitting with thoughts live in Vegas, where I'm actually speaking in a couple months.

and so are a lot of other people.

So I got certifications from different organizations, different classes, and essentially once you know it, it's like a skill.

It's like building cabinets, not literally, but you have a skill, you know how to do an induction, know how to guide people and to make changes.

Then you learn more different styles, different approaches for different conditions or different personality types, being able to kind of deal with how they do the problem.

So I was curious so essentially I could have stopped years ago and save myself lots of time and money But I was curious so and also if I'm gonna take someone's money and potentially impact their life in some way hopefully good I wanted to be good at I didn't want to just like take a class get a certification be done.

So I that's why the many certifications

So you're not like an entertainer you actually are

One-on-one, you tell people what, lose weight, stop biting their nails.

What kind of things do you hypnotize people?

I

know a guy that smoked for 50 years had lung cancer, still wouldn't stop smoking.

And this was, what was it called, hypnosis?

That's the only thing that got him

to stop smoking.

And so for a guy that I know who was smoking camels with throat cancer for something to finally make him stop, this was it.

How

does that happen?

Magic.

It depends on the person to answer your question first.

So weight loss and well, every hypnotist will get asked, can you help me to lose weight, quit smoking, or will you make me click like a chicken?

Okay.

And it's yes, yes.

And I never actually try.

Actually, my friend Pete wanted me to make him click like a chicken.

I'm like, we'll see.

If you can't

get him to stop that.

Okay.

Not how it works.

But yeah, that's.

But so weight loss and smoking are kind of the bread and butter of the industry.

Um, nail biting phobias, fears and phobias.

Um, let's see.

Basically anything you can feel think or behavior you can change so People

have the biggest fear is speaking in public.

Yeah, can something like this help them?

Absolutely Okay, and just to kind of break that down So if you have a fear of and this is the same to for athletes to that I'd like a fear or they have like anxiety around a match I work the athletes a lot too.

That's when my my niches

So if you are a fear of public speaking, well, you have either you picture a crowd a certain way where it's intimidating, maybe they're gigantic and they're staring at you, usually unfriendly.

Or if you tell yourself, I'm going to suck at this, which don't.

But you know, people do something that where they have like a feeling in their stomach and you can change that with hypnosis or NLP is another related field called neuro linguistic programming.

You can change how they represent that.

So your brain has to do something to give you that feeling.

So if you have a fear of public speaking, your brain is doing something to let you know, oh,

I should be afraid of this.

Now, you, you, hypnotists will figure out like what they, I mean, it depends on the hypnotist, but what I do is, how do you, how do you have that fear?

You know, is it, what do you imagine your mind, you know, is it something you're picturing, you're telling yourself, do you have a sense of, is there a feeling, is there a movement in your stomach?

You know, you can, once you know what's going on there, then you start to work with it.

You can also just essentially ask the unconscious mind to do something more productive.

You know, you thank it for what it's doing.

because anything we do, whether we like it or not, it's, it's done for a reason.

It's done because it worked at some point or else your brain would do something different.

You know, our brains are not stupid.

So you essentially, I want to thank the unconscious mind for what it's trying to do, but let's do something different.

Okay, you talked about sports.

I remember a couple of guys to disguise specifically, I remember, and they talked about this because there are two guys, major league baseball players that couldn't throw a ball.

Steve Sax was one, Chuck Knoblock was the other, both major league players, and they developed some kind of a phobia.

They couldn't throw a ball from here through that door.

It was all over the place, and they received help from someone like you.

What did you, you know what I mean?

What would you put in their mind where something they've done since they were what, three years old and never thought of, and now all of a sudden, they couldn't do it because they were overthinking it?

Yeah, so you can do things to quiet their mind.

You can look at, like, what are they doing?

Like, what's going on whenever they have, you know, what's triggering it, what are they doing?

So essentially, you ferret that out.

And then it's based on them.

So it's based on that individual person, how they're doing the problem.

And then you can essentially change how they do that.

You have them, you know, you can do it with hypnotic trance.

We call it where they go into like a traditional sort of hypnotic trance approach.

And then you have their unconscious mind do something different.

You can also have them just kind of practice like it's a matter of course how they think of it You know, what are they looking at?

How do they?

Imagine that scenario happening and then you have them imagine something better You can also have can I give you

one of those and tell me if this is the same thing Yeah, and this was a guy who was a former major league baseball player and he now speaks about thing and what his person somebody like exactly like you Okay, what they told because he was going up against this picture that could throw like a hundred miles an hour And it was this huge game and everything and what the guy had put in his mind

You're the tiger.

He's a sheep.

You're better than he is.

Even if your mind says he is, you step up to the plate.

You're the tiger.

He's a sheep and you're going to devour him.

And he says, no matter what happens, that's going to happen.

And he says, that was his mindset, which he would take to the plate every single time versus what it would have been otherwise.

Oh, crap.

I just hope I get my bat on the ball.

I hope I don't get embarrassed.

I hope I don't.

You know what I mean?

And that made such a difference for him.

Something like

that.

That's a facet.

So having that mindset changes how you respond.

So if you have that mindset, oh, I don't know if I can do this.

I hope I can at least hit the ball in the back.

Exactly.

Right.

As opposed to I'm going to destroy this.

This ball is going to like, it's going to be this center, you know, this is integrated and it's going to fly across.

You know, that changes how your body, your mind believes you and you tell it things.

But

what's the difference in that was a pep talk versus hypnosis?

What, what, how do you alter the subconscious?

Yes.

So the difference with hypnosis is sticking power.

And if you do that, if you have, if you give yourself a pep talk enough times and you start to believe it, like that, that can be hypnotic.

Okay.

So like hypnosis, one of the things that we use as an example is if you ever drive your car.

So you drive.

That was the question.

So if you, if you draw.

He's deep.

I know.

Well, but if you drive your

car, we're expecting such an easy question from you.

Let's be honest.

Well, yeah, the hard stuff.

Yes.

Right.

But if you drive your car, you don't have to think about moving your hands.

You don't have to think about like, you know, your foot in the gas pedal, you know, you just do it.

So Gnosis is similar to that.

So if you have a question, you've gotten on this track, but Gnosis is similar.

Like what Gnosis is, you could describe it Gnosis as being absorbed and focused in something.

If you read a book, you're looking at scribbles on a piece of paper and you're imagining very rich things.

You know, you're imagining, you know, sights and sounds and smells, tastes and feels.

So that's, hypnosis kind of uses what your brain already does.

So the difference between like a pep talk and hypnosis is probably that you, you imagine it more vividly.

You give your unconscious mind, you can future pacing do things so that it becomes how you naturally do things.

So the trigger that led that baseball player.

I hope I can get the ball on the bat.

As opposed to that trigger means I'm gonna kill it.

This guy is a sheep, I'm a lion, I'm gonna devour this guy.

I put it in the sky, I can do it.

That becomes how you think.

So I think a good hypnotist will probably want to condition that in so it's not just like you tell them once.

It's that you future pace that so every time you get to the bat, you get to the base, you see the guy on the mound, this program clicks in.

So it goes to a different layer than just that superficial pep talk, correct?

Yeah.

And a pep talk can be hypnotic.

If you have a good coach that it has you in a moment where you have buy and you have their attention and you give that, that message, like you are going to be the best ball player ever.

And that clicks in every fall, that moment where someone says something and it has an impact.

That's essentially that's probably every bit of hypnotic is any suggestion I would make.

It's just like in a more naturalistic.

Jim

told me I sucked one time.

I've never gotten over it.

Well, I tell them that every day.

That's

probably been all this.

I just want to get, do you, I've given those talks to people, look them in the eye and hold their shoulders and say, look, man, you can do this, but I don't know that that's hypnotic.

Do you get them like ready?

What about the pocket watch?

I mean, I want to make funny, but I just, how do you get them into the,

I will just say this, hearing him talk.

When he was telling you know how this works, I'm doing all this imagining and I'm following along.

So I don't know.

I'm just

saying I think

his presentation is is hit not

okay.

Well, I have been doing this for 13 years.

I have 13 years.

I think this point.

So I like to think I'm pretty decent at it.

But to answer your question, you do things like you get.

I mean, some of the stuff will have cross over like with your coach, essentially.

So a good coach could be like a great hypnotist if they learn the stuff.

But

So in like in a session with an actual person, I will report them, you know, start to like see how they, you know, you have a talk, so you're having like a conversation.

You see how they, how they operate, you know, what are their modalities, so to speak.

And then, you know, for most hypnotists, you do an induction where you get them to go into hypnotic trance and the uptime stuff is different for the hypnotists out there if they're not listening.

We're

going to have to send her a quick break.

We want to pick it up as soon as we get back.

We've only got a million questions.

We're going to

have 10 minutes to come back.

So, Jim, you're going to take it from there.

But I think the athletic part.

I'd love to just because I know there's so many people listening who are kids in sports and whatever.

That's

pretty close.

I want to hypnotize them into being confident.

So

many people are like, I can't do this.

Yes, you can.

Back after this with the tremendous man, David Ruby.

I was out on the West Coast trying to make a buck.

And things didn't work out.

Hey, welcome back.

My name is Eric.

Coming away

from our studios in Oshkosh at WIS.

We're with David Ruby.

Work well, hypnosis.

This is some fascinating stuff.

And I'm sorry we only have another 10 minutes or so, because I want to get, I would like, love to talk about the type of athletes you deal with.

But, Jim, you got a bunch of really good questions.

Well, I just want to know,

you have a private practice.

I want to, yeah.

Do people come to you?

Do they get referred to you?

Tell me about...

You're right here on Main Street in Oshkosh Tribal Main Street and you solo practice you said the partner partnership?

Yeah, so I've had a practice for I think it's been 11 years now.

I was I was a Fox 5 hypnosis until COVID hit then we went virtual because you couldn't see people in person.

And then I was Dave Ruby hypnosis and my wife had a practice she got hypnosis kind of later than I did.

She'd been doing it for I think I think three years now give or take I lose track of time.

I think it's been three years she's been doing hypnosis and she had her own practice and we thought, well, we might as well combine it and swerve well hypnosis.

And we've had that for, I think about a year and a half.

That's been our business name is a joint practice.

So what's the most common request you get?

I call you on the phone.

Is it the confidence thing?

Is it the sports?

Is it snakes?

I mean, why do people call you and will you take anyone?

Tell me about, I want to learn more about you.

Yeah, weight loss and smoking are probably the most common.

Anxiety is another one.

I do see athletes.

I like to see athletes.

I work with school.

I'm a student athlete.

I've worked with amateurs as well.

People are more adult.

Otherwise, it's weird things, like things that they don't know who else to talk to.

Right.

So it could be relationship issues.

I've had a few of those.

It could be fears of driving, it could be nail picking, things like that.

And I hate to say this.

Don't take this the wrong way, but it's what I'll think sometimes where people are like, I've tried everything else.

I might as well try this.

How dare you

say

no, I was thinking it I just no no you can ask me anything I don't care I'm not easily funded.

It's either there like this is literally the last thing You know, I've tried everything else.

That's probably pretty common or it's people who are I'm always surprised like yeah, I know I believe this works entirely I was a skeptic so I'm always like I'm happy to explain why this works.

Here's your

skeptic.

Oh, yeah before I got into this

So I kind of expect people would be, but there are people who come there.

They have total buy-in and it hit no birthing.

And I use hypnosis to manage this when I was younger.

And

are you someone that people would go see and pick something but fear flying?

Yes.

Is it a one session?

Is it 10 sessions?

How?

It depends.

So some things are more like smoking tends to be more binary.

Like we have a smoking package because there's a guarantee with it.

Wow.

But with smoking, usually people, they're like the quitter they don't, right?

Yeah, either most people think I'm a smoker or I'm not a smoker.

Weight loss is different because you can't stop eating.

There's a lifestyle change for phobias, fears, anxieties.

There can be layers.

So sometimes one is done, one or two sessions.

There have been clients who are like, I'll be seeing this person for a while.

And after one or two sessions, like, I'm good.

Thanks.

It was great.

Nice meeting you.

Other things I'm like, oh, man.

One session this I nailed it.

This is amazing.

They're like, yeah, I need some more work, you know, because they're layers.

It doesn't mean it didn't work.

It means that, you know, it it's like adding, you know, like weight to a scale.

If your problem is 100 pounds of, so to speak, metaphorically, and hypnosis does 85 pounds.

That's a huge shift.

But the scale doesn't move until it's balanced out.

OK, make sense.

Yeah.

Contacting.

your practice, you have a website or something that we can, I'd be interested to learn more about you.

And I don't know, I've got a few things I could come and see about.

So let's share that, Jim.

Let's dig into that.

These

guys will laugh when

I tumble on.

I don't

think there's anything

wrong

with seeing a therapist.

Take your

shoes off, lead on.

Well, I think hypnosis is you're learning to use your mind, to work with your mind.

So there's nothing wrong with it.

I mean, I think that that's a skill.

Everyone could and arguably should have it doesn't mean things wrong.

It means you're you want to like you want to get the most out of your mind out of your life

Okay, one last thing I want to ask you about the athlete part because that's can you tell me the type of athlete you deal with?

I mean, I'm just not asking for specifics But the type of athlete that would come to you.

No

Yeah, yeah, so most of people tend to They come to me because they either they have some issue they want to overcome or they just want to get amazing at it

So either like I had a one one client who Actually two quick story one client.

He had a wrestler He had someone he had lost to and he was nervous about this guy and both were great wrestlers and So he was just anxious and wanted to like just really beat the sky But he was nervous and so he viewed this guy.

These are like middle school kids, too So not huge.

We

viewed

like it was like Brock Lesnar or something like you know, okay He had this visual this guy and he would tell himself things that were not helpful

and he would get feelings of nervousness.

So you address those individually.

Another wrestler who was anxious about wrestling, he would just be like a nervous wreck before match.

He would still win.

He was built like a tank, you know, a really nice kid.

He would be very nervous.

And after the first session, his coach had to go and like literally like kick him gently, kick him away to like, you know, because he was napping between matches like, Hey, your match is over.

You got to go get there.

And he was super chill.

And we found out his coaches and parents didn't know this, but he wasn't anxious about wrestling.

He was anxious about everything.

And after one session, that was essentially gone.

We did two sessions just to kind of consolidate the work.

I'm excited to know that it worked so well.

But he was, he was nervous about his job, his parents, schools, girlfriend.

And

I

would think

correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Two minutes.

Correct me if I'm wrong, a coach could tell him that, a parent could tell them that, a teammate could tell them that, but coming from somebody like you that's a little bit outside of his circle of influence or whatever you like to call it, I would think him taking that like, ooh, okay.

This guy doesn't have any other motives versus my teammates or my mom or my dad telling me these things, whereas you are a little bit more objective on the outside.

I would think they would take that deeper.

True.

Yes, and I'm also speaking to them differently.

I'm speaking to their unconscious mind.

I'm doing things to like, not just give them a pep talk, but to let them like practice what that's going to be like to live that way.

So when they walk into a match or they walk into a meeting at their job or whatever, they imagine it very differently.

They see themselves doing something differently.

They're able to practice being different way.

This is fascinating stuff.

Your wife just texted into the show.

Gina.

Yes.

Yep.

What's the website for people who would like to get involved?

Thanks, hon.

So that website is workwellhypnosis.com.

What is it?

Workwellhypnosis.com.

OK, Workwell.

Right here in Oshkosh.

Yes.

Yeah, we do see people in person on 507 North Main Street, Oshkosh.

We also see people on Zoom.

Let's stay this has been I could talk to you for two hours, but you'd get really annoyed because I'd keep asking about different things that I Maybe you could

get you to how

could I be a better radio guy?

Let

me

work well hypnosis.

You're awesome.

This has been great

having you here.

Yeah, thank you very much.

Appreciate

it.

Thank you

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John Maino

942 in the whole area, high in the mid to upper 50s today by a beautiful, beautiful, sunshiny day.

By the way, congratulations to Dave from Oshkosh, winner of four season passes for Waterfest.

All right, Dave.

That's a big bleepin' prize.

And then Greg from Appleton, four VIP passes for a hairball at Waterfest.

Those are cool, although I will say this.

Um, it'd be great to have VIP passes.

Yes.

But something else that's very cool there is that a nice night sitting on the hillside.

Have that music come up at you.

That ain't a bad setting either.

Is it Pat?

They're all good.

Welcome to Waterfest in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

Oh my gosh.

John Maino

Is he joining us?

We are so excited.

Waterfest.

You just took my breath away.

Yeah.

They're all good.

They're all good.

Uh, lover boy.

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Yes.

Steely Dan.

Kate Voss in the hot sauce.

Oh, we

love Kate.

Our own, our own local, our own local artist is going to be on stage.

She's

been on her show before.

Absolutely.

Music segment.

Guys, welcome to spring in Oshkosh.

I know, right?

It's nice, buddy.

Pat Tracy with Discover Oshkosh.

You have a compliment.

I don't know if you were listening earlier, but we had Connie on here.

Connie Carmichael from the chamber.

Yes.

And we're telling her that, look, we think Oshkosh has it going on.

And a couple of respects, right?

And she.

discovered Oshkosh is one of the reasons.

So I think that's pretty cool that the chambers, sometimes chambers take all

the credit.

I mean, it's pretty cool that she shared.

just the tourism and fun organization for like the whole city.

And that's just because Amy, our leader has just like embraced it.

And we're like, we are committed to making Oshkosh fun for visitors and residents.

John Maino

But you know what the cool part is, you got like these young kids here from Oshkosh, these young gentlemen from Oshkosh North High School, 16, 17, 15 years old, and they're taking, picking up the gauntlet already and leading things that could last for the next 40 years.

How cool is

that?

Yes.

Yes, your own homegrown talent and give credit to the social studies teacher to for teaching his kids leadership skills besides just the X's and O's of social studies, you know, and I just think that you Yeah, you made a good point.

I think you're all in it together And I think that's really

really really important.

Yes.

So this weekend fellas is Possibly the most important day of the year Mother's Day.

Oh, yeah.

Oh,

yeah,

that would be and so I want to invite all the mothers and families in Northeast, Wisconsin to join us at the pain art center and gardens

in beautiful Oshkosh because it's free admission on Mother's Day.

The tulips are blooming.

It is incredible.

There's literally thousands of tulips in every possible color.

And so moms and families, if you are out and about, just stop by the Payne Art Center this Sunday for free admission.

If you're busy this Sunday with your mom activities next Saturday, I want to say that's the 17th, is the Payne annual

Festival of Spring, which is another free day to get into the pain, but then right across the street from the pain are like 60 artisans, plant sale, flowers, everything.

So we've got a Sunday and a Saturday here in Oshkosh that if you have not been to the pain recently, you should come down and see it.

That sounds great.

Yeah, that that.

Mother's Day, you gotta do something special.

You better do something special.

But I mean, that's the busiest day on the phone, which I think is appropriate,

right?

I mean, you should call your

mother.

But yeah, that's a cool thing to do.

Yes.

Yeah, I see my mother gets a little tougher when they're in their 90s.

Yeah, Jim.

Yeah,

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it's hard to bring

mom to the

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pain.

Well, no, it's not that.

It's not that.

Did you

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correct me if I'm wrong?

Last

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time we were here, didn't you bring her some of the

cheesecake or something?

That's what's

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going to be.

It's going to be the judge.

That's

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what I'm going to

get.

Just mom just want to stay home and watch the Brewer's game.

Oh, she's a big move, bro.

Yeah, maybe.

Chocolate, I mean, she doesn't like chocolate.

You have the best chocolate down here in Oshkosh, too.

All right, so how are you?

Oh, yeah.

No,

John Maino

yeah.

It's an Oshkosh.

No, John, did you hear that?

OK, I'm just.

He's got the best

Oshkosh.

He's got the best chocolate down here.

Don't take off.

I would not.

No, I'm not going

to.

I'm not going to bite the hand at feet.

I know Joe.

Don't get the sponsors.

Joe's really good to me.

So anyway, what else?

Oh my gosh.

Can I tell you what I did this week already?

Tell us what you did already, Pat.

I was on Monday afternoon.

I was out with Cruz and Tiki's Oshkosh.

It's a little Tiki boat.

Yeah,

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we had them

on last summer here.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, we had this on so captain Joe and Tammy I've known them literally the whole time.

I've been an Oshkosh

Captain Joe, when I moved here 30 years ago was the captain of the Pioneer Princess.

I remember the Pioneer Princess, absolutely.

Young Joe was the captain.

I

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remember going on there with the Wisconsin team competition or whatever it

was, all the candidates.

Yes, yes, they

John Maino

used to come every year.

Yes.

So I was a featured speaker and one of the judges at their luncheon.

What do you think

about that?

It's kind of interesting.

Okay.

Interesting choice.

Inspiring John.

So Captain Joe invited us to come out and we took a little crew out there.

The boat

Uh, holds six people for the cruise.

Joe does a two hour cruise.

And so we went out and filmed an episode of why I love Oshkosh on Monday afternoon.

It was stunning.

It was 65 out on the water.

And so what I wanted to share with with the community today is the cruise and Tiki's Oshkosh, they're like wide open for bookings in May.

Right.

Right.

Now they start getting busy in June and July.

But if you ever are looking for a fun thing to do and you've got.

six people.

It's like it's 300 bucks.

Right.

For the two hours.

And the way they do it is you meet them at the Fox River Brewery right on the Fox River.

Sure.

You can have a beverage there or get a snack.

You bring your own beverages out under the tea.

Oh, nice.

Super fun.

And then they take you for a half an hour down the river for sightseeing and then you come back up, you get off, maybe hit the restroom.

Whatever you need to do and then you take another hour and you go toward the beautiful more bridge, which is really cool You know usually you only see that if you're a fisherman or something and like you were talking about you see the bridge from the water.

It's yeah Anyway, I cannot work in the

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green bay itself and the only time I've experienced it is on fishing trips or maybe one time with the old foxy lady type thing But at night the skyline of Green Bay is really cool, but you don't really see it unless you're on the water

It's too bad that some people

live on the water and never see their city from the water, because that's an awesome view.

And when you drive over, you just have a different respect for it, a different look at it.

We use the river

pretty quick.

It looks big.

Yeah, it is.

And it's a lot of fun.

I

thought that was really cool when he said you could bring your own beverages and food.

Yeah,

it keeps it simple and super fun.

The neat thing about the Tiki is

It's small enough so that when the fishing boats and the big boats go by, you get some amazing swell action.

And it was just, I mean, we had two hours of nonstop fun.

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That sounds great.

I'd love to try that.

Yeah.

So, oh, my gosh, you just said the magic word.

Yeah.

Let's get John on cruise and Tiki's with Captain Joe.

Let's do it.

Life preservers.

Yes.

Coast Guard.

Coast Guard required.

They do.

Oh, my gosh.

What if we could?

Oh, what if we could go out like for a morning cruise?

Oh, that would be fun.

That'd be beautiful.

That'd be phenomenal.

That probably wouldn't be as busy either.

Man, that sun coming up over the water right here this

morning was spectacular.

But look at all the fishing out here.

I mean.

Jim, this boat, this river is busy all the time.

The fish are literally jumping out of the Fox River here in Oshkosh.

Okay, now you're lying, but go ahead.

Go ahead.

You know when you have

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to

corral him

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back in, love it.

What else you got going

on here, Oshkosh?

Recites a little bit of everything.

Okay, you guys are going to flip when you hear this.

Okay.

I am going in to do a one.

No,

John Maino

no, no.

I know what I wanted to say to you first.

Tell me.

Congratulations to one of your, one of Todd's favorite places for being correct me from Ryan.

Dive bar of the country for the year, because that current garage bar.

Pete's, Pete's, yeah, absolutely.

I

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mean, that got

national news.

That's awesome.

Pete just got his letter yesterday from our congressman congratulating him on his... Glenn growthman.

Glenn

growthman.

I mean that

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was a national story

I saw.

It was.

Boy now he's got a letter from Glenn.

Yeah he's got a letter he's gonna frame it up put it in the bar.

You get one for the former mayor of Green

Bay?

I'm sure your mayor sent you one but that is quite an honor because we make fun of guy bars and yet...

This guy's

parlayed that into like, you know what?

This huge attraction, especially here in Wisconsin because we've embraced it.

It's like a cultural touchstone for the rest of America to come and get a glimpse into being a Wisconsinite.

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Exactly.

That's cool.

That was very aggressive.

Anyway, so we're taking it to the next level.

I'm doing a one day.

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Interrupt.

I interrupted.

John, John, you're going to want to hear this.

I'm going to make brats.

with Ruben at Wagner Market.

Oh, really?

Yes.

Oh, Ruben Hernandez.

He doesn't just make brats.

He events them.

John Maino

I know.

He's

a creator.

He's an artist.

Oh, yeah.

So

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Jim doesn't like them.

The trip.

The trip.

Is it

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a tripe?

No, it's a tripe.

Tripe.

Oh, it's got... A broth's tripe.

Tripe.

No, no, no.

Not the stomach.

Not

tripe.

Okay.

It's called tripe, and it's a sausage, but it has sauerkraut in the

sausage.

Built

into it.

And it's called tripe.

Okay.

And I like sauerkraut on a broth, but I don't like... It was dry or something.

I just didn't... Maybe I got a bad one.

But I only had one in my life.

I don't know.

And you didn't get

it from there.

This was

someplace

else.

No, no, no, no.

This is probably

Illinois.

I'll try one of

yours.

But

yeah.

So I so I've been eating a few brats so far.

I've done the Teriyaki pineapple.

Nice, which is kind of amazing.

I bet the mac and cheese brought.

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Nice.

The all time favorite, though.

Number one, I think the beer and cheese brought.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Unbelievable.

So I'm going in, I think it's next Wednesday.

I'm going into the little room in the middle of the Wagner Market, right?

It's like a little sanitary operating room in there.

And they're gonna show me how you put the stuff in and the sausage.

Like I am gonna literally be making the sausage.

And that's gonna be one of your shows.

That's gonna be one of our

shows.

Awesome.

I want to say this because nothing's better than on a Saturday afternoon or a Sunday and you're like, you know what, I want to grill out.

You drive down to Main Street, right?

You stop in, you grab whatever you're going to throw on the grill, brats, steaks or whatever.

Side salads, you want, you know, some coleslaw, you want, they've got it all right there.

It's just,

it's actually quite incredible.

And Todd, you failed to mention the 400 different kinds of beer in here.

400 kinds of beer.

There's so much beer in there, like it's

It's pretty fun, John.

You guys don't do anything.

No, they don't.

They don't.

You do it right.

Wow.

Yeah.

So we've been doing brats.

I also did a weekend internship with Sunken Paddle Ciderworks.

I love them, too.

These are two young guys.

Oh, my God, we should get them in here because they're like, remember Ian from Fifth Ward?

Yeah, that was great.

These are another like cut from the same cloth.

But crazier.

Oh my gosh, but crazier.

These guys are a little crazy.

Yeah.

All right.

We'll take them there.

So they make they make cider and it's they call it like proper cider like people from Europe would call it proper cider.

What's happened in America is the cider that's in the cans in the stores.

Yeah, super sweet.

Yeah, these guys make a dry cider.

It's almost like a like a Pinot Grigio.

Some of it is like a wine and my wife, Dawn, who doesn't like a lot of stuff.

He loves the cider.

Yeah.

He

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doesn't like and you're like he's pointing for

the word.

Doesn't like us.

Go

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ahead.

All right.

Well, that's cool.

Apple cider?

No.

So it's it's apple cider.

Alcohol.

Is there?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Five percent alcohol and they've got a cider pressing.

It's called an urban nano cidery.

It's like a little tiny cidery.

The bar is like in a garage about as big as our studio here.

There's like 10 chairs in there and in your literally like.

in the cidery, all the equipment's there in the vats.

Where is

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it?

I'd love to see it.

Right

over here.

It's on 17th Street.

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Oh, gosh, it's so cool.

There's a

couple of breweries who added that product line.

John Maino

Yes.

But is there like, OK, so there are different types of cider?

Do they have what you come there?

Here's

the

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cider.

No.

So they have like 10 different kinds.

And they have made some some Apple brandy that's available.

And now.

they're taking their cider to the next level with cider cocktails.

Oh, OK.

Really?

John Maino

And correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a lot of things about cider that's good for you, I guess, for your heart.

Oh, my gosh.

their bass cider has nine hundred heirloom apple varieties in it.

It's like Elixir of Life.

We got 30 seconds.

We'll

John Maino

come back to Elixir of Life.

Wow.

We'll be back

with the Elixir of Life.

On the road again.

Just can't wait to get on the road.

Hey, welcome back.

What are the mayor coming your way from WSS Studios in Oshkosh?

And of course WGBW in Green Bay.

We're here with Pat Tracy.

The what do we call him?

The new Nick the elixir elixir of life.

Elixir of life.

That's correct.

I've discovered proper cider at sunken paddle cider works.

That sounds

great.

Don't forget

Don texted

in.

Free samples free samples at Sunken.

So the fun of the cider the cidery is is that it's a different kind of cider than you've probably ever had.

You know, it's it's is that a word.

Cidery.

Cidery.

It's called a Cidery.

It's called a Cidery.

That was part

of our promotion.

The top craft picks.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

And so this like you would see this on the West Coast like this is super Uber hipster.

Right.

West Coast Cidery urban nano.

But I love it.

Doug and Spencer are so much fun at the Cidery.

They're it's basically like like a garage.

It's in a neighborhood and you come in, you get free samples.

They've got 10 or 12 different flavors of cider, all amazing and all local.

So they'll get their apples and then they get raspberries from like somebody over by a Monomony Park has raspberries in their backyard.

So they get a couple bushels of them, throw them in the apples and now they've got a raspberry tea cider.

That's Don's favorite.

So does the OK.

Does the cider ferment itself or is it alcohol infused?

How does that

work?

No, it ferments itself.

Okay.

They ferment the cider.

Okay.

Yep.

Yep.

Okay.

So next time you guys are here, we're bringing cider.

Maybe we can get even Doug and Spencer out here.

That'd be great.

That'd be fantastic because it's it's really fun.

So we have now taken to going over so they're only open.

You should be aware Fridays and Saturdays because these guys have day jobs.

our role as Wisconsinites is to buy so much of their cider that they can eventually leave their day jobs.

You know, we can't figure out right.

And now we can't now we know now now I think I've figured certain things out.

Why Todd will get up at three o'clock in the morning and drive an hour to go to work in Green Bay and drive home.

And the reason he doesn't want to leave Oshkosh.

Because I think he's got his stuff and grounds down here because every every little place you mentioned

something.

I've been here.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Friday.

I was there.

Yeah.

We have never talked about a place that Todd has not.

I don't care

what you mentioned.

And you know, oh, yeah, they got this one craft beer that I really like.

Yeah.

Did you grow up in Ashkosh, Todd?

South of town.

OK.

Yep.

But I've lived here several times, you know.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

I just I like it here.

I really, really do.

I'm very proud of this town.

I like where we're at as far as the progressive nature of it, the young people doing great things, like all the businesses we talk about, right?

We're kind of forward thinking down here.

And we're not a big city, but we have some of the things that the cities have and the events.

I mean, how you listen, if you're ever bored in this city,

you're nuts.

You're nuts.

Hey, so if I can do a quick public service announcement, the skies over Oshkosh next week will be filled with 100 small airplanes as the flying schools, the universities across the U.S.

that offer degrees in aviation.

So there's like 30 of them.

If you want to be an airport director or a commercial airline pilot, you typically go.

go to an aviation.

You know, we have our

traffic control.

Maybe a few jobs in Newark right now.

Yeah, right.

But our last year, we had a kid on a young person.

I shouldn't say kid.

I'm also from Middle Tennessee State, where their booth real close

to where Jim and I were.

Yes.

And talking about that, it's like, who would think Middle Tennessee State is huge for aerodynamics?

It's huge.

So all.

So we've got a hundred students competing in their annual safe con.

and they will fly their airplanes, which are like little Cessna's and

Piper's.

They will all descend on Oshkosh starting on the 12th, right?

So next week, and they'll be flying around doing maneuvers and testing for their competition.

So it's not open to the public, but if we're in Oshkosh, we're going to see a lot of aerial activity.

Wow, that's really cool.

That's very cool.

Yes, that's nice to use that.

facility too for other like that's just oh

yeah

business we were talking earlier about there's some facilities in Green Bay that we could maybe leverage a little bit more

yes you

guys are smart

with the waterfront

with the waterfront and yeah

hey let's open let's put a restaurant Lambo Field Monday through Friday

we're trying to bring the banana guys

oh

man

Savannah

we're going to bring them to play a minor league teams or who do they play themselves kind of they're a little bit harmful to others.

Yes.

They have their own

opponents

that

travel with them.

And they are funny and they are entertaining.

They're so huge.

Two

hours

and yes.

They're.

Oh my god.

But.

They go on 60 minutes, and it's like, oh, let's bring these guys here.

How many other people said that?

I wish we would have got them.

Anyway, do you

want us to pay them to bring them here?

Why

would I bankroll those guys?

They're unbelievable.

They will.

Yes.

And the ladies love them, like it's weird.

Maybe we could lure them here with a cider sponsor.

There you go.

I like it.

I like

it.

Pat, you got two minutes wrapping up, buddy.

Everything good about Oshkosh?

Well, I love Oshkosh.

It's another beautiful weekend in Oshkosh here with the tulips blooming at the Payne Arts Center and Gardens.

We're going to be out there with mom taking pictures this weekend, having brunch, strolling down Main Street.

You got those really

good cannolis on the menu any place here?

Oh, at Fox River Brewery.

Yes, they've got an amazing Mother's Day buffet over there.

Oh, we're, see, I don't have time to stop there because we

have to be in Oshkosh.

We're planting trees.

Not Oshkosh, we're not Oshkosh.

Oh, you're planting trees today?

Yep.

It's called the orchard.

I forgot what it's called.

Oh my gosh.

Apple Blossom.

Apple Blossom.

Along the trail.

It's beautiful.

They plant trees every year.

And Johnny and I did that last year.

We're going to go do that today.

So we have to scoot out of here.

But

or else cannolis

next time.

So we're going to make plants for cider.

Yes.

Not even a question.

Brats.

Yes.

Yes.

We got a big summer here.

Still haven't had

your candy.

Oh, the candy.

Huge.

Yeah.

We

got to get them to huge.

We didn't want to wait in line.

That was our fault.

We're getting a backlog of Oshkosh.

Yeah.

Artisan eats.

Yes.

To feed John.

Yes.

Yes.

And we want to get George Thoreau good on the show here when he was in Oshkosh.

Whoa.

Oh my gosh.

Yes.

I guess I'll be busy over the next several

weeks.

You got to work

that.

Um, I mean, it's on a Thursday night, right?

Yeah, we got to sync up calendars.

All right, we will be so cool.

We could just he stays in the hotel right across the street.

Yeah, just goes bang

on his door.

They love

that.

George.

I can sing all your songs.

One beer.

Yes,

I can sing all your songs.

Tracy.

Thank you, my brother.

Love you guys.

Thank you for the hospitality in Oshkosh.

We love it down here.

You're the man.

All right, we're out of time.

Tomorrow, we'll continue to hand out our $25 gift certificate for the best slogan.

You can get in on this, Pat.

Take line.

Mine on the mare.

That's

it.

Fill in the

blank.

Fill in the blank.

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And here are your hosts, John Minow and Jim

John Maino

Schmidt.

Todd, it's never good when Jim and I are looking at each other and making motions and pantomizing what to do dealing with equipment.

Pointing to our ears.

So just so you guys know when we're on location, our noise or our sound from the audio from the studio has to drop before we go live.

So that's why I

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went.

Oh, I thought he was.

No, no.

OK.

All right.

Anyway, so we can tell everyone where

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we

are.

This is

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good morning.

Good morning.

Look at that beautiful sun coming up over the water right behind us.

It's great.

Isn't that?

I just wish there was some warmth in it.

I know.

But it's a little chilly out here.

We're in Oshkosh.

We love being in Oshkosh.

You know, just driving into the looking for a gas station to buy my monster.

I don't want you guys to judge me for drinking monster.

I gotta tell you that.

You know what?

I could hang out if they had a quick trip at 5.27 in the morning.

Okay.

With all the trades people.

It's

all yellow.

Totally completely.

That's great though.

They're getting hot dogs.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

They load up.

That's, that's

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how it was fun.

I don't know or something about that.

I just, I really like, but, but the thing is I was saying how I love this.

I should share you so much when coming in.

Through this street and that well whatever whatever 6th Street and although

over there

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Oregon Street Yeah, and coming right down the two blocks from here just beautiful greenery right on the water and it's got up there, you know built 1883 and the next one next with 1889 and this one right next to us a fire station when I bet they used horses

Absolutely.

You know what I mean?

Oh

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yeah.

We're right.

And didn't you say, Todd, this is where Oshkosh started?

I mean, pretty much right by the fire station there, right?

Wow.

Back when it was Athens, it was right on the river and all that kind of stuff.

That's kind of stuff.

Did you actually close that?

Yeah.

Is it bothering you?

It's kind of

John Maino

burning up the redness

in here.

I won't be the

John Maino

surgeon.

Got this wart right off my face.

Yeah.

But it feels good.

It's nice down here in Oshkosh.

Beautiful, beautiful morning.

Not warm.

38 degrees in Green Bay 39 and apt in 41 in Oshkosh, but it is sunshiney and the forecast mid to upper 50s today So a little chilly today and then after this pretty much kind

of oh, yeah, this weekend is

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gradually

I think we might even hit 80 which is Wow, it's been a while.

No, it's gonna

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be

great weekend So hey, I was gonna ask you we took different cars because we have different things to do after this but You know you think

435, people would be nice.

There's a little road rage I felt with a guy next to me.

Did you get running?

The traffic was more than I thought.

No, you're good?

John Maino

Well, you're hanging out.

Okay.

I just, and that made me think of, did you see that road rage thing where that guy's.

Driving and that and road rage with a with a motorcycle.

No.

Oh, you got to see this Oh, and they're going back and forth and finally the motor

John Maino

as they're driving

as they're driving You know left lane right lane right and finally the motorcycle just comes right next to this guy Probably I don't know two feet and just giving them the finger the guy just jerks is to the right knocks the guy off Wow.

Yeah, I think he lived but boy did he

John Maino

oh my god So anyway, that's too much road rage for boy that made me what I'm saying is okay.

Was it a motorcycle?

Yeah, they're kind of was type of thing.

You don't know I saw it.

Okay, but

But I was talking to the guys yesterday and what guys had lunch with angle.

And they just told horror stories left and right about, they just call it the gauntlet when they come here early in the morning, you know,

back.

And

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it's, it's 85, 87 miles an hour.

And it's, it's, so, so I guess I'm used to it in a certain way.

And you just kind of, you know, hunkered down and getting the flow.

Well, we,

in Green Bay, you know, you walk to work and I drive two minutes to work.

So I was just.

It was fine.

I just was like, wow, they're, this is a little aggressive.

John Maino

I was wondering, but I played late to it.

Is

he late

John Maino

for work?

That

guy who was

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me.

No,

I know.

John Maino

Cause we had, there's one guy passed me, blew right past me at whatever.

Then there were two semi.

They was in the three lane area and there were semis in each of the lanes, which is kind of freaky because I've gotten caught in between them.

So I bet he went a hundred.

They're kind of messing with you a little bit when they both

pass you at the same time and you're in the middle.

John Maino

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway, yes,

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but I bet he

won.

I bet he won easy 90.

Yeah, he's going.

Oh, yeah.

John Maino

Yeah.

I did my cruise on an 82.

So I didn't want to get a ticket.

No.

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Hey, today is Thursday, May 8th.

It is no socks day.

I like going without socks, but man, my shoes stink then with sandals.

No,

I

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don't know.

But I mean, to the point where it's like, if you sit in the living room, it's like,

what is that?

John Maino

Then you realize your shoes are like under you and that's what it is.

You ever have that?

No.

What?

Uh, no.

I mean, maybe as a child, but then, you know, as you grow up, you go, well, I'm just not going to do that anymore.

Or

you're going to wash your socks or your feet or just not, or wear socks when you have shoes and not wear socks when you have sandals.

So that's, but okay, that's,

John Maino

I will never, I'll tell you one thing on there.

I'll never wear crocs.

No.

John Maino

Oh,

I see.

I like him just if I'm going to run out to the throw some garbage out or like that I'll throw him on real quick because I go outside.

Kind of like a pair of slippers for outside.

But you have slippers.

I have slippers.

John Maino

OK, you think.

OK, I was so excited to wear a bathrobe in New York.

That's right.

Because I hadn't worn a bathrobe since I was seven.

Do you think I own a pair of slippers, Jim?

Not

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that.

Like your kids would give them to you for like, you know, something.

But yeah, I got a pack of slippers.

I got I got different kinds of pipe, three, four pairs of slippers.

Bear for each day

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of the week.

Will you ask?

Today is ovarian cancer day, very important day.

Ovarian cancer, man, that is affecting other ones affect so many people.

And they've made great strides with that.

Have a Coke day?

All right.

Is Coke coming out with another new thing that they're really pumping?

It's like something like...

This is like another new break.

And that's one of those entities.

Why don't you say what's like, what are you doing?

Just let it be.

Yeah, I know.

But I always do want more shelf space.

Is that the energized?

Is that what you're

talking about?

Is that what it is?

There's something.

They have a new orange cream flavor.

OK.

And by the way, I think Khan actually loves that stuff.

He would.

He would,

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Khan.

You would.

Yeah, so there's a. So that's

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what

it is.

There's an orange cream and an orange cream zero, I believe, zero sugar.

All right.

Yeah, he actually got me some is a thank you and it's not bad really.

Yeah, it's not bad I don't know that I would go buy

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it

I'm

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gonna tell you something that is so good that I could market this I could market this and I'm not lying.

I'm gonna do I'm gonna do next time I'm gonna here's I'm gonna do I'm gonna I'm gonna make a jug of this I'm gonna make a jug and I'm gonna bring into the studio and every guest we have that day I'm gonna give them a sample Yeah, say hey, what do you think about this?

Okay?

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Okay like that

Do you want me to tell you what's in it?

Sure.

Okay.

Tang.

Okay.

Vanilla flavored protein powder.

Okay.

Avocados.

Little bit of banana.

Okay.

And pistachio seeds.

And it's blended all up and it tastes half between an orange cream sickle and a pistachio bar.

That sounds good.

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It's unbelievable and it's so good for you.

It's mind-boggling I don't think you could I don't think you could put anything in your body.

There'd be better for you than that I'm not even joking about this

as you come up with

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that.

I did it on my own.

Yeah

It's like sitting here with Emeril Lagasse.

Yeah, you

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know BAM.

I'm doing this mate, but I gotta buy a new but my bed blender is so gross Is there anything worse than cleaning a blender?

I'll just clean it every time.

Oh

That's I bet you don't clean your blender every time

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Well, I was going to yesterday.

That's why it's hard to clean.

To the point where I just took dove laundry soap and just right now it's still soaking because once that stuff gets in there.

That's true.

Oh, is that hard to get out?

But

you take it

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apart too.

I know, but then you got the blaze.

But what I'm saying is to use it that one time, the effort afterwards to clean.

Don't you have a dishwasher?

Yeah, but I don't think you're supposed to put those in dishwashers.

I think

you can.

I don't know.

I do.

I think you can.

Can you?

Yeah, I think so.

Okay, that'd do it for you.

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But you know what I mean?

It's so it's like can't they come up with something that just stays a lot cleaner when you make it or easier to something something what

you put in there if you just it's what you put in there that makes it stuff cling to the sides.

I mean, if you just do it with like water and tang, yeah, it'll be a problem.

So

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no,

you have to do that.

And you got to do it right away.

Like when you're done.

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Yeah, that's what I mean.

Because if you right away, if you wait,

then it's yeah.

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Yeah.

If you make something in the morning.

and then you wait till like at night to clean it.

It is coagulated in there.

It is so hard to get off.

I was actually thinking about taking a toothbrush or something to get into those spots to

get

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that stuff out.

So if I do it for you guys tomorrow, it's still going to be on my gross one because I don't think I have time to bite into it.

No, I'm not drinking that.

You guys want to

wait?

I'll probably pass.

I'll pass.

Yep.

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Now I

don't know how long that, you got some things in there that spoil rather quickly.

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Yeah, I know.

I've been eating so many avocados though.

You know what's a good sandwich?

Let me guess, your sardines and avocado?

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No, but that's not a bad idea.

Um, the lettuce with avocado that I was talking about.

Yeah.

And, um, either turkey or ham.

Okay.

A little bit of mayo.

Yeah.

But heat it up first before you put the mayo on.

It's fantastic.

That turkey and ham though, ham is it, but you're not, is that turkey processed?

Are you getting like a breast of turkey and then slicing it?

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I just, I kill one of my turkeys in there.

What

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do you

think?

That's not, that process, that's not really that good for you.

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Actually it's better for you.

Cause it has all the

chemicals to, you know, keep your body from deteriorating.

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But it's great.

I'm going to make you guys one of those shakes though.

Oh, I'll buy you a new blender first though.

Um, it's donkey day.

It is coconut cream pie day.

You know yesterday when we're, no, the other day when we had Sean in.

Yeah,

and he had those fried pies.

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And I remember when he used to get Tommy's buy rate, this little story, a little mom and pop little store, and coming home from a little league game, buying one of those things for $0.15, and then the coconut cream pie ones, which were amazingly good.

Now we just stuck with the apple,

but yeah, that's no, I don't like

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coconut.

So I don't like all coconut cream pie to me is banana cream.

All those I'll just sit there and eat the whole thing

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for my birthday.

My son Dom gave me that coconut.

I gave you some.

Didn't I?

Yes, they did.

Give me the last

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slice.

Yes.

From the Union Hotel, from the Baker at the Union, homemade coconut cream pie.

That was amazing.

Wasn't it?

Oh, yeah.

What was your favorite pie, apple?

I like rhubarb.

You would?

What?

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Nobody likes Rubar Pride.

Children's Book Week, which is great.

Your daughter wrote a children's book, right?

Didn't she?

I thought she was writing something like

that.

She writes a lot.

No, it was more short stories.

She doesn't have her own book published.

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But was it towards kids?

Yeah, yeah.

And that

was something that was, we were kind of talking before the show, that was she had a booth and everything at Art Fest.

I'm

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not sure you've done

that too, but yeah, it's, so that was cool.

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Oh, that's cool.

Yeah.

That's very cool.

Happy birthday, Enrique Iglesias, 50.

So that's the young one, obviously.

Son,

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his kid.

Melissa Gilbert, 61, little house in the prairie.

Half pint.

Half pint.

Yep.

Didn't sound like her and the other girl.

Anderson.

Melissa Sue Anderson.

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Got along.

And the one from Nellie.

You know who I mean, Jim.

You were at the event I was at with her.

At Heritage Hill?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, real name.

I can't think of Allison and Greg.

Yes.

Yes.

Three, you know, they say in baseball sometimes you have, uh, you know, 20 guys in the team and after a game, 20 different cabs.

Cause every, you know, that's the way it sounded amongst those three.

Like, I bet it was tough.

Yeah.

But I think there were some, uh, stage moms that got involved in the whole thing.

And yeah.

Yep.

But she told some good stories about how Michael landed sometimes it looked like he had a cup of coffee in a thing.

It was wild turkey Ronnie lot is 66 Ronnie lot was there when the Green Bay Packers Pick was up for the NFL Draft

And they took Rich Campbell, who never played.

I think he played one game his entire career.

Here's a Packers number one draft pick.

And like two picks later, I think it was San Francisco took Ronnie Lott, who was one of the all time greatest safeties in the history of the National Football League.

Hall of Famer, first ballot Hall of Famer.

Packers passed him up.

Alex Van Halen, 72.

I don't think he's got much going on these days.

No.

I mean, he had his thing with his brother.

Phillip Bailey.

Who's Phillip Bailey?

So Earth Wind and Fire, and he had a duet back in the 80s with Phil Collins, Easy Lover.

Remember that song?

Oh, sure.

Yep.

Phil Bailey.

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Oh, cool.

Tony Tenille,

85.

Come

on.

Wow.

That's like almost 100.

Oh my god.

85 is not just a, you remember that.

I do, I remember her.

No, but remember in 20 years when you're 85, we'll be like, German's almost 100.

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that's good that's good uh let's see um good morning guys you three are as cool as a cucumber in a bowl of hot sauce brian brian

brian's getting better he's that was nice right

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he always starts that he does a little snarky but he's he always does he's got any haskell in a way we get a bunch of good ones here folks stay with us we got a great show coming for you downtown oshkosh back after this

Kathryn Lake

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As we mentioned, 38 in Green Bay, 39 in Alpton, 41 in Oshkosh, mostly sunny today, high in the mid to upper 50s, but it looks like a great, great weekend coming up.

We got some great guests for you coming our way from down here.

I'll tell you what, Todd, let's talk a little bit about our first guest that's going to be coming up in about 10 minutes, at least

Alicia Wenger, Executive Director of the Christine and Domestic Abuse Services.

What a history to this great entity they put together, huh?

And you hate to say it spawned from tragedy, but it did.

And I'll tell you, it's been an anchor in our community for a lot of years, and just recently they had to expand from

a rather large Victorian type house in Oshkosh to a much larger facility, which allowed them to expand and help more people.

So she'll be in to talk a little bit about that.

But the history, you guys were talking off the air, why it's called Christine Ann and all that.

That is quite sad.

Interesting.

And it's too bad that you had to move from the Victorian house to the 64 bed.

And now we've been in Green Bay, they put that golden house that I don't know, we better get that under control.

I think that.

That's been around for a long time, but never talked about.

So now that it's out in the open, I think people are, you know, Hey, look, you had to do this.

This is just crazy.

Some of the stuff that

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I mean, I don't know if that's good or bad that they had to expand.

Does that mean there's more victims happening?

Or does it mean that there's more victims coming forward?

We'll ask her, but I think it's the latter.

I hope so.

I mean, that's good then.

You know, hey, you know, it's something yesterday.

I was driving on Mason and it's going to stop traffic with stuff.

The Altrusa house.

Altrusa.

Yeah,

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we had them on.

Yeah.

But.

She mentioned, you know, we're a lot bigger place and you're, and I was stopped right there and I was, that does go way back.

Like, you know, when you drive by it, you think, well, okay, a person, you know, one family might stay there for, holy crap, that's big back

there.

That's, yeah, they got a lot of room.

And they got great community rooms.

And yeah, it's, I wonder, I want to ask her how they did for, remember we, they were worried about the draft that they were

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going

to get full, they're always full.

that they needed some extra houses.

So a lady was listening to us and she wrote me a letter.

They had to get references.

If you wouldn't open up your house to the Altrusa.

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Oh, I believe that.

Sure.

Get

vetted.

Yeah.

So she will you write me a reference letter?

I'm like, yeah, absolutely.

So

anyway, I

don't.

Wow.

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I mean, that we get that service here.

So much better after

so much.

I

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walk in today.

She's at her desk.

I walk into it.

First thing she does gets up and she closes the door.

She wanted to do that before you got here.

But she's like, damn, there he is.

We got some texts here.

See.

From Dave, the mare is even above foot odor?

Okay.

All right.

Hi, Dave.

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Todd and DePierre says, Jim not only has multiple pairs of slippers, but I bet they're all embossed.

I won.

Anybody surprised

by that?

They're

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gifts.

They're gifts.

Come on.

Good morning to, in my opinion, the best morning talk show in the whole wide world.

Mike.

Thank you, Mike.

Love you, Mike.

Okay.

Is this legit?

Um, well this one just put soap and water in it let it run after you use it each time.

Okay.

That's fine.

I'll try that Allison from Allentown, Pennsylvania.

That's where she's listening in.

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Wow.

So how cool is that?

Turn

your blender back on after you put soap and water.

That's a good idea.

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I

don't like never would have thought of that.

But you don't want your next drink to take so be well you got to rinse it out and

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stuff.

Right.

But that is a great idea.

Allison.

Tell us about why you're listening to us from Allentown, Pennsylvania All right, that was the big that was the number one hit in December of 1982 Billy Joel.

Yes Living here in Allentown.

Yes

Okay, so anyway, but that's great that you're listening.

Thank you very much.

And did we ever hand out our $25 gift card?

Not yet

for the

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tagline.

Can we keep it going

to this?

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Yep.

Our snarkiest tagline.

Here's how we do it, folks, since, you know, we were number two for the morning shows.

And we're proud of that.

We're proud of that.

You know what?

Doggone it, you're all winners.

And we're coming on taglines yesterday.

Mine or the bear?

and then you fill in the rest.

I kind of like the one, what did you expect?

There were a couple really good

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ones.

There were some really good ones.

So we're continuing that one today.

Fill us in on our best slogan, mine on the mare.

Our tagline.

Yada, yada, yada.

And people are gonna be like, okay, that's cool.

Yes.

That's not a bad one in itself.

Mine on the mare.

Yada,

yada,

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yada.

That's true.

That is true, Todd.

That's not bad.

I came up with that.

I get the $25

gift

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card.

Also coming up today, Caden Leaderhouse and Phneak Thompson, Bike Osh 25.

I am the community inside iCare.

Tell me a little bit more about biking in Oshkosh, Todd, because that is so big down

here.

This is an event coming up in a couple of weeks.

It's with some of the students in town.

And basically, you're going to be able to bike around the city, stop off at certain points to have your little card punched or whatever.

This is really interesting.

because you're right, biking is big in this city, and these two young men will talk a little bit about this particular, and I think it's pronounced, we'll have to find out, but like, but gosh, so it's like, by gosh, by gosh, 25, I think.

But this

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is a big biking community, right?

I mean, like

community, biking, groups.

This is their ninth annual, so they know what they're doing here, but they really want to educate people on the bike lanes, and really, because there's responsibilities.

Everybody's like, well, the cars, the cars, the cars.

Well, the bike, because they have some responsibilities too.

So I think they try to educate the whole community on.

But biking's big, no doubt about

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it.

So

did you?

I know.

I got busy yesterday.

I had to go pick up some stuff for that party I'm having.

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Tell me

he's going biking

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tomorrow.

I did.

But I went and rented the table and chairs.

I had to pick all that stuff up yesterday.

So I don't have to do it today.

I also just want to mention that.

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Did you ask your neighbor if he's got a gel seat for me?

No, I can tell you what.

This is kind of sad.

I don't remember, but his dog died.

And he's like us.

So they're in mourning.

No, I didn't go over there.

Okay.

All right,

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sorry about that

just wanted to mention that that particular segment is our new eye in the community segment And it's brought to you by insight.

I care the eye doctor that was on with us last.

Oh, yeah Great.

So big thanks to him and his locations will learn more about that in the next couple of weeks Fantastic.

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Yep.

Oh glad to hear it really glad to hear it then Connie Carmichael Oshkosh chamber coming on talking about some great things.

Yeah, they got

They got so much going on here at the chamber.

What's cool about their chamber?

I mean, just not just the 900 members that they have in networking and doing business to business.

They actually give you their mailing list for free.

Isn't that cool?

So you got 900 friends.

You can just email to tell what you're doing.

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Absolutely.

There's so

much else going on there.

So that's it's great organization.

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All right.

We got a quick break.

Mine or the mayor coming right from downtown Oshkosh and a beautiful Thursday morning.

Back after this.

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John Maino

Hey, welcome back.

Come on on the Mayor, coming your way from downtown Oshkosh and a beautiful...

beautiful, but chilly Thursday morning, 38 in Green Bay, 39 out in 41 Oshkosh, high today in the mid to upper fifties.

I told you we've got a full slate of great guests.

We always do when we come to Oshkosh.

Todd and Lisa always put together a great, great ensemble.

Alicia Wenger, executive director of the Christine Ann story here, domestic abuse services.

And we were just talking during the break and we were just wide eyed her mouth's almost open.

You tell me about the day to day.

that you all deal with with this.

But first, I want to back up if you don't mind.

Christine Ann, we need to acknowledge that more than just her name.

Can you tell her story and why your center is named after this young lady?

Absolutely.

Well, thank you so much.

And welcome, by the way.

Thank you.

It's great to say we

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love being here.

We absolutely love being in Oshkosh.

And

you guys got it going on in Oshkosh.

And we got just.

Johnny's talking about we have a great lineup today, but Oshkosh is it's a big city Yeah, and we got this guy's gonna talk about bikes We got the chamber coming in but there's also some issues here that need to be dealt with right and we've had the homeless guy on before we had the food pantry and and you're here talking a little bit about domestic violence, which is

you're doing something about it.

People who don't talk about it don't do anything, it gets worse.

So I just

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go for that.

And with all this other stuff there too, another discussion Jim and I had right before you even came in, Todd was telling us about how you had this facility, this big old house, and you had to expand or whatever.

And the question we had, is that a good thing or a bad thing, meaning?

Domestic abuse is continuing at an accelerating pace or does it mean that you guys have done such a great job getting word out there that you were there to help that more people who maybe would have been What's the word reluctant to come and ask for help now they realize you guys are there for them so

First of all, welcome.

And we just threw about 27 questions at you.

We'll give you the mic.

So thank you for being here.

Our

next guest coming up.

Turn her mic on.

All right.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for having me.

We'll start with Kristine.

Yeah.

So Kristine Ann Clark, she grew up in the Oshkosh area, went to school at UW Oshkosh, where at that point in time, she had met her.

her boyfriend Alan and soon after they graduated they got married and things were and became very abusive and domestic violence a lot of times is not visible to the outside world.

There's so many people in our lives that are impacted by abuse and we have no idea because it's kept behind closed doors and that's really what was happening with Christine Ann and she was

They ended up having a child together a daughter and They the abuse had gotten so bad that she actually fled to a shelter in Milwaukee and Like the cycle of violence You know Alan convinced her to come back and so She tried and it got worse and so she ended up leaving it was at that point that she had told her family about

what was what was happening and What had happened essentially then was they went through the divorce, but they had 5050 custody of their daughter and during a child custody exchange Allen had convinced her to meet in a different location that was more secluded and It was relevant to their relationship when they were together.

It was a spot that they knew and he had

ended up taking her life and leaving the daughter unharmed.

Can

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I ask how old the daughter was at the time?

She was very little.

I

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mean, no disrespect, but at least she didn't witness it firsthand type thing.

Yeah, she was with, I believe within her first two years of life.

And so...

Daughter was unharmed, but some people who were passing by ended up finding Christine and called the police and Alan is serving life in prison.

So her story is really important to tell because our organization, we started in 1984 and we were named Regional Domestic Abuse Services.

And this is one of the worst case scenarios that could have happened and right here in our community.

And it was right when our movement was really taking off.

So our agency actually approached her family and asked if we could rename our organization in Christine Ann's honor.

And they agreed.

And so now her name lives on as a symbol of hope for others in our community.

And in her case, she had left.

She had left that relationship, right?

And that is the most dangerous time in an abusive relationship is when somebody is leaving or preparing to leave.

And it's sad as that is, if that's not the only story.

I

mean, even in Wisconsin, safe, nice people, what do they call that?

Wisconsin

nice.

It's not all that nice because you were even saying that statistically we're a little higher than we should be on the map.

Yeah, so Wisconsin is eighth in the nation for domestic violence homicides.

So one in every six

states are like

one in every six domestic violence homicides are taking place in Wisconsin.

So that's.

Yeah,

not in a good way either.

So it is something that is continuously rising from year to year.

And, you know, we try to do as much as we can to get the word out, do so much community education, help people understand what domestic.

and that there's assistance.

And it's not always 21, 23-year-olds.

There's some older people that

need to see it,

too, that have been

living this life.

Men, women, children.

We almost like

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brag about how much we drink in Wisconsin, the drunkest state, whatever.

Is that a factor?

You know, so what I will say is that drugs, alcohol, stress, mental illness are all things that can...

exacerbate the, really exaggerate the abuse, but it is not the cause of it.

So, but those are definitely factors that can often escalate a situation.

Got it.

Wow.

So you, this is your focus.

I'm going to ask you why you got into that before I do that.

The, the support from the community, it's there.

I'm assuming

you're a nonprofit.

We are.

Yes.

Right.

And you've expanded from what, six, seven, eight beds to.

Don't you have like 64 now?

Well, so we were actually 37 bucks before.

Oh, you were 37 before, okay.

We were, yes.

So we were a pretty decent size.

Yeah, it's

pretty good size,

it's bad.

Yeah, but our, our shelter, our previous building had a lot of limitations.

And so it's... Old

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buildings always

do.

They do, it is a gorgeous

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home.

It is an absolutely gorgeous home and it did us well for over 30 years.

Nice.

But we had two separate buildings.

And when we're talking about domestic violence survivors and the safety aspect that goes along with that, having two separate buildings where we're housing people in our shelter for them to walk outside and go into the main building, which is all open, right?

There's a security risk in that.

And so that was a big factor in us.

And

the other thing

I think we'll have to

understand is what when, so I work at a homeless place when a homeless person shows up there alone.

They have nothing.

When people show up with you, they may have kids in tow.

I mean, it's

like 64 families is a heck of a lot more than 64 people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, you must have a lot of support to get that done because these kids got to go to school.

They got to get their health checkups.

So they got to eat.

We have, um, we have about 30 staff.

So, um, a lot of people are surprised by that too.

And, you know, and we have definitely expanded.

I

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think we, a lot of people, and I, we've both dealt with you, your type of organization.

So

we kind of

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see the behind the curtain, but a lot of people might think, Oh, it's just one little house and this poor lady went there and she got to, they have no idea the magnitude of what you guys do.

Do they?

Yeah, absolutely.

A lot of people just view us as the shelter, but you know, we offer so many different services.

The shelter is just.

a piece of what we do in the community.

But it is a very important piece because it offers that safety and security for people who are fleeing that active domestic violence.

You just briefly said men and women.

I think

everybody thinks it's

100 percent.

And I look at, like Johnny said, we've worked with people like not you specifically, but organizations like yours.

That can happen too.

That's got to be tough that first step to come forward.

Absolutely, you know I think that our name being more female centered a lot of people have the misconception that we only serve women and children and that is not the case We have Our agency serves everybody domestic abuse does not discriminate and neither do our services So they're inclusive.

We have a handful of men that stay in our shelter every single year more so that

that work with our outreach services.

But in terms of men who are impacted by domestic abuse, there's a lot of barriers

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also.

As victims.

Yes, as victims who maybe feel that they can't come forward or there's a lot of shame surrounding that or feel like I should be able to handle this or I'm not gonna be believed.

And a lot of people.

That's one of the

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biggest curses guys were born with.

asking for help or doing, you know what I mean?

Yeah, we're last to show up.

Yeah.

So

go for it.

I'm glad you offer that.

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You're

right.

I will 100% say that the majority of the people that we see are female or women who are seeking our support.

but it is very important to know that every single person, anyone, can be impacted.

So let's talk about, I mean, you're the director, right?

Yes.

You're the executive director of the Christian Domestic Abuse Services, and we talked about you got a new facility, 64 people you can answer, but you must have a...

Outpatient.

People would just call and

say,

look, this isn't working for me.

I mean, I

tell us about people

that can just contact you anonymously, I hope.

Yes, absolutely.

So we have a 24-7 helpline.

We have trained advocates that are there.

24 seven, 365 days a year.

Um, they're there answering the phones, providing that support.

Um, our 24 seven helpline is anonymous.

So people can call and just, I want to chat about what's going on.

Or if you're a friend or family member of someone who's impacted by abuse, um, and you want to know how to best support them, that's what that 24 seven helpline is for.

So we offer that, um, along with our 24 seven emergency shelter.

And then we do provide outreach services.

So we have not.

residential support.

We actually have three locations.

So our primary shelter and location is here in Oshkosh off of Algoma.

And then we have an outreach office in Monashah inside of the Levin building.

And we have another outreach office in Green Lake inside of the Town Square Community Building.

Because our our agency serves all of Winnebago County and all of Green Lake County.

John Maino

I'm gonna slip you read this because I don't want to ask it on the air because

I'm afraid

John Maino

to ask this question.

Yes,

John Maino

okay.

I was go ahead and so what I just wrote down because I didn't know

if there was so it did What he asked was did the little girl turn out okay?

It was

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tragic.

I didn't want to hear about it on the air.

It's not just

here, but I don't

John Maino

want to bring up something so tragic.

No, I'm sorry.

I Yes, and

a really powerful and wonderful moment that we had.

Kristine Ann's daughter was, her family actually came and did a tour this past summer.

And they got to see the new building and I actually got the chance to meet her family and her daughter.

So it was a really, it was a really wonderful moment to be able to meet the whole family.

Yeah,

absolutely.

All right,

I want

to talk about some of the programs you offer

because I think people

just think it's a shelter But I mean you have everything in here from you know the advocacy that teen programs for kids

Yeah, we don't want to

get back to some of those because I think people look I think we know it's an issue

but it's just not, here's the place to sleep.

There's

John Maino

so much

more that you offer.

John Maino

And you're sticking around for another segment.

We're not letting you go.

This is too fast.

I'm just sitting here with my mouth open.

You talked about these

John Maino

wonderful things you're doing and the need for them.

I'll stay here all day,

John Maino

guys.

By the way, we got a, just to lighten it up, we got a big contest going.

A

John Maino

slogan contest you'll create if our people

are.

We're looking for a tagline for our show because we entered a contest and we got second and we're like, if we would have had a tagline, we would have won.

John Maino

So

we're looking for a tagline like,

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you know,

Mine on the mare.

Something, something, something.

So it's

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can't be a paragraph.

I'll give you some here.

Mine on the mare, like a case of athlete's foot that just don't go away.

Mine on the mare, bantering, bickering and bewildered day after day.

Mine on the mare, less fluff, more facts, occasional chaos.

Mine on the mare, cancel us.

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Sure, but golly, it's clean.

Clear to Flagtown.

Come on.

Hey, welcome back.

You might know the mayor

John Maino

here coming your way from downtown Oshkosh.

Very, very special guest.

And Alicia, we've actually got a really nice text here, Todd just posted.

Regarding your guest from Oshkosh, one of my favorite quotes, real people do real things.

A collective of a whole bunch of people who do things in their own locale, in their own neighborhoods, the sum is bigger than the parts, and the parts will grow.

I

love that.

John Maino

Isn't

that great?

That's amazing.

Thank you.

Thank you to whoever said that.

So with your facility that you have

here, this is

Christie Ann Domestic Abuse Services.

Again, I think...

people know and that it's a shelter.

People that can get away, but let's talk about a few other things that you offer.

I want to talk a little bit more about the children and teen programs.

Like I said, we know the shelter, but education, prevention, tell

us what other things you offer.

Yes, so I was kind of talking a little bit about our outreach services.

So just to put into kind of like numbers, our shelters

in our previous building, we don't have the numbers yet for this new building, but we served about 300, between 250, 300 individuals in our shelter, we serve upwards of like 600 plus in our outreach services.

So those are the folks who maybe don't need the safety of the shelter, but they still need that emotional support, options, resources, material assistance, whatever that may look like.

And then we also provide legal advocacy.

So that's a huge piece of what

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we

do, which is,

helping people with restraining orders, divorce, custody.

We're not lawyers, but we are immersed in the legal system and can help them walk through that very intimidating and overwhelming

process.

I'm sure one of the first things you gotta say is, well, I don't know if this is that big of a deal, but he does this once in a while.

And your first thing's gotta be, that's not okay.

Cause it

just

escalates, I

mean.

Yeah, and well, a lot of people think that domestic violence is just physical.

And it's not.

It's so much more than that.

There are so many different tactics that are used in an abusive relationship where it's financial abuse, it's emotional abuse, it's psychological.

There's so many different elements that could go into it.

John Maino

If I could ask them, follow up what Jim was saying, when should somebody make that call?

When would you say is that, okay, that's a tipping point.

You know what I'm saying?

John Maino

What advice would you give on that?

What I would say is that every single person has a different point in time in which they feel

is the time for them to come forward.

They are the experts of their own lives.

But what they need to know is that we are here 24-7.

Our 24-7 helpline, there's no obligation to give us any information.

If you just want to talk, we're there.

If you want to figure out your options, we're there.

If you just need that extra support or that validation, we are there.

So that helpline, that phone number is 920-2355.

And like I said, there is a kind, compassionate person on the other end of that phone.

And it just takes a phone call.

Right.

And I, Johnny's asking about, you know, what's, what's, what's the flare on this thing?

But controlling is.

really with people

power and

control it is it's

can be

like you said it can be the female control in the mail I mean it doesn't always have to be this guy but that can escalate and you hear these stories some of this stuff escalates pretty quick too

which

is surprised me but yeah I'm so it's never too early to call you

absolutely and so another program that we offer to is our youth services so we have an

a team of advocates that work specifically with children who are impacted by abuse in some capacity.

So whether it's happening within their home, between their parents or their guardians, or maybe they're a teenager, they're getting into their first dating relationship and it's not a healthy one.

We have advocates that go into the schools, they meet one-on-one with kids, they provide that additional support for them, and we're just a safe person for them to help process through what's going on.

We also do prevention education.

So we're doing presentations to classrooms or sometimes even auditoriums on what is healthy relationships, what is...

what's a healthy friendship, boundaries, consent, what does that look like?

And so really breaking it down to help prevent the cycle of abuse from continuing.

You know, a lot of kids that are growing up in that environment, those are exposed to.

And they think that's, it's okay.

Yeah, it's normalized.

And so that's really what we're trying to do is interrupt that cycle.

It's just wonderful.

John Maino

Just fantastic, man.

I'm glad

you're getting into those schools because you hear about, you know, everything abuse, I think they think it's like,

you know, Christiane, that's married for a year or two, things went to, you know, but schools, you hear these stories

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about

their abusive relationships and they're 16, it's like, that's not gonna get better.

And then I just wanted to touch on briefly the, there's people who are older and they're 60s that should come and see you as well.

I mean, that's tough to do, because I've lived with these guys, but it's like, you gotta,

You're still an individual.

You've got to get out of that

thing.

It's hard.

There's people who could be married for 30 years and are just afraid of the unknown of what does it look like if I leave?

Will I be able to support myself?

Are they going to harm me?

Are they going to harm themselves if I leave?

So there's so many different factors.

And you answer that.

John Maino

That's going to say the first thing.

two, three, five, five, nine, nine, eight, right?

You give them comfort that it is okay to come see us.

I mean, there's a way out of this thing.

John Maino

But

make that phone

John Maino

call, right?

If they have any doubts, if they're asking those questions, what you just said, if they're asking themselves those questions, let's ask it to somebody else,

correct?

Doesn't cost anything, it's anonymous and just, you know.

Yeah, it's so important to know the resources too, so that a lot of people, they may not know what to say if someone discloses what's happening to them.

out in the community, but it's important to know what resources are in our area.

And two thirds of your business business, two thirds of your work is outpatient.

So I mean, it's it's a very

common

thing to do.

So

absolutely.

All right,

well, I hope people contact you if you know someone.

Encourage them to give you a call because I think it's great what you're doing.

Thank you so

much.

How about

donations?

Yes In order to operate we rely heavily on the community to really help us help us do what we do and so

monetary donations are incredible.

They help us have a lot of flexibility, but there's also in kind donations.

So batting, cleaning supplies, canned foods, those are all things that we take.

And we have an updated list on our website that has all of our current needs,

which is

www.christineand.net.

Okay, look up that website.

There's a lot of information on there, but you're right.

You're nonprofit.

We need donations and there's some great people in this community.

John Maino

Alicia Wenger, Executive Director, Christine and Domestic Abuse Services.

You just blew us away here over the last 20

minutes with what you do

John Maino

and that you open our eyes to, this is so needed.

Thank you, whatever

we can do for you, let us know.

Thank you.

John Maino

My name is Mary, back after this.

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John Maino

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in Oshkosh, special thanks to Alicia Wenger, executive director of the Christine and Domestic Abuse Services Man.

She was just phenomenal talking about what they do down here.

Now we're going to switch sites to something else here.

This is brought to you by I in the community, brought to you by Insight Eye Care.

But first, and maybe these guys can help us out, we've still got our contest going for our best slogan.

We'll explain it to you guys.

We didn't

win.

They had the WBA awards last week.

It's Wisconsin Broadcasters Association.

They're a jazillion people and they give out awards for the best of this, the best of that.

We took second and we're very disappointed on that.

And we're not like, well, that's great.

No, it's not.

We blame it on our marketing department.

We're one of those things.

Who's Todd?

Winner, winner, die.

So we're looking for a tagline.

So it's mine on the mayor, you know people to remember right like our hawk like not the best in the West because we're in the West but you know I'm talking about just a tagline like McDonald's would use or you know you're McDonald's well that didn't work but there's just a

John Maino

Arby's where's the beef?

We got a

John Maino

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Wow.

Mino the Mayor, hotter than the Phoenix ladies winning round one of the NCAA Tournament.

Then we had other ones like Mino the Mayor.

What'd you expect?

Right.

So we got a lot of snarky people.

So think about that when you guys get

a chance.

You guys are the creative guys.

You guys are

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creative guys.

And it's amazing what you're doing besides academics, outside of academics.

We're going to get

John Maino

to that.

Bacot.

Nope.

Nope.

I'm going to have your, your teachers say this word for me.

So how do we say B I K E O S H?

Introduce

John Maino

yourself and tell us how to pronounce it.

Hi, I'm Rick, the social studies teacher.

Right, Rick.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

It's spelled B I K E O S H 2020, but pronounced by gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

Not, you're thinking by gosh, like the gene.

Yes.

No, bike, bike.

That's a pun on that.

John Maino

By gosh.

By gosh.

So you're not old enough to remember the old wrestling when it was brought to you by play with us.

I show you.

No.

OK.

All right.

But we're going to talk about your house

John Maino

and Feneke Thompson here to tell us all about a couple of students at Oshkosh North.

And again, I'm so impressed with just talking in between segments here.

How many people are involved.

How much you guys get involved.

This is a big deal for you guys.

Introduce yourselves and tell us more about it.

Okay, yeah, I'm Caden leader house.

I'm the student leader for by gosh and Yeah, see how he said that

so I

know

my gosh you guys like any

sense was laughing at you Johnny,

okay?

Yeah, my name is finique Thompson.

I'm just helping out volunteering for the

My leader.

That's awesome.

High school kids that are getting involved in the community.

And just to remind people, the ninth annual bike gosh at the city-wide event aimed at improving bike safety and building on the local biking culture here in Oshkosh.

And

John Maino

I'm just here

for my leader too.

His leader of, okay.

So how'd you get involved in this?

How many liters in a gallon?

No one knows.

We're going to see that guy Friday.

The date, Parkesee, do you know him?

Okay, he's pretty funny.

He's going to be in Green Bay Friday, and he's... We can't go all over the place.

We do, we're... And that's why, you know, Mike on the mayor, you know, ADD,

you know, that's one of our take runs, too.

Yeah, we just

go with it.

How'd you get involved in all

this?

So my freshman year, it was like a graded project we had to do, and then I just, like, loved it.

So then my sophomore year, I just volunteered my time into working at a pit stop, and then I just rode, like, the rest of the time.

And so I figured since I love doing like biking and doing bike ash so much, I just do it as my junior project.

John Maino

And I'll tell you what, this is pretty extensive.

Explain a little bit more about, and it's the ninth annual, but tell you the goals here about improving bike safety and all the different things with the bike culture.

Yeah.

So like we, um, so we just wanted to like, we know bike biking is a huge part in like a lot of people's lives, sometimes in like, like Madison, like as a great example, but like Ashkosh has

It's a smaller city compared to like Madison and biking is still very important here And we just want to make biking like safer in Oshkosh.

We want to make more people bike like we just want it to be more Community like base thing

and Vikings ever touching just a second But you talk about the bike lanes and the safety aspect, but you know, let's not forget the health part of biking.

Yeah, I mean that's

Way up there.

I mean in Madison's one of the healthiest cities.

They always come up like a top We Green Bay can become the drinking city.

I wish we would do more work

We guys like you here.

How about you?

How'd you get involved in all this?

So last year I volunteered and this year it's graded, but it really doesn't feel like that and You know, we went to Madison yesterday.

We've seen all the people that Tell us more about that trip you guys go ahead.

Yeah, so yesterday We went to Madison as a group for communities one, which is a freshman and sophomores and we just seen like the amount of people that depend on bikes We seen the community bike program on how people could get different bikes in

If it's needed for them how they could get help

they really do it all from from bike that you could rent You know just for the day

they

got and that's kind of a we live in Wisconsin That's kind of a 12 month biking community down there.

Yeah, it's great.

No, what did you find out in Madison?

What did you think about it down there?

Um, so yesterday, yeah, we went to Madison.

We just seen all the people that really depend on the bikes

And we seen all the infrastructure like dead bike elevators and stuff.

So

John Maino

really?

Yeah, oh cool sounds a little bit bone broke like how you guys want to use biking for the rest of your lives I mean you guys are so young in high school and doesn't seem like it for what you're doing This is so awesome what you're doing, but tell us a little bit about how you want to make this a part of your life

Yeah, so I personally like I love like physical activity like I love working out and I love like biking and so like

Biking is just something I enjoy because like it's like almost a long time like for yourself like just to gather yourself and so like I just like love

biking When we talk about this education educate the bikers, but you know the vehicles to have to we had to respect each other.

I mean biking isn't like Everything's for you.

I mean right talk about a little bit of what people can learn on this On this day that you're gonna have the night.

Yeah, so on May 17th, I'm gonna have um

by gosh 25 and so there's 20 pit stops around the city that like people can bike to and like collect stamps from and like we just want to use that to help like show the biking infrastructure that Oshkosh has and like have like and just like also educate our drivers on like right

yeah it's pretty cool that you go to those 20 stops in your bike it's a heck of a lot easier than it is going in a car

Yeah,

that's what I like about bikes.

Everybody freaks out about parking parking parking parking, you know and with bikes you're kind of there

Yeah, yeah,

and you have you done this before did you do the pit stops or

is this your first time?

I volunteered for the pit stops just like on my own free will

John Maino

and what happens at the pit stop they check their stamps or get stamped basically the card

Yeah, so they all have pits pit passes right and you're just able to sign it off at the different and one of

John Maino

them is right here I believe at the studios right Todd.

Yeah, cool

Awesome,

and then the weather is supposed to be

John Maino

perfect.

Yes, they when the pit When you fill your pit stop card to 20 of them is You know you got something.

Yeah, so I think you can go more into that

Yeah, so each stamp you get you get one ticket for raffle basket and then we also sectioned off each Like pit stop depending on where they are in the city like we have a downtown section We have like a south section of like Ashkosh and so each one you get you get a raffle ticket each like

Little like section you get you get an extra raffle ticket and then you can bring those Stamps down to Oshkosh North That's where our celebration is going to be and you can get your tickets and go to our different raffle baskets

John Maino

What if somebody doesn't have a bike and then want to take part you guys have any for rent or to loan or anything like that?

We do not actually Something that's very very important if you want to be a serious biker like myself.

Oh, he's not gel seats

Gel seats are so important that has discouraged and cause serious injuries to so many people if you

don't have a gel seat You don't

John Maino

even want me to go into the trauma I suffered from not having a gel seat

back to these guys You don't want to

John Maino

know

you guys I

John Maino

don't want to ruin

your lives by

John Maino

thinking what could happen down the road

How about okay?

How about some advice for bikers like what what advice you give and then I want to know what you think if you're the mayor what?

What can the city do to enhance

biking?

So I think that That's a good question.

I think biking especially like here in Oshkosh you still have to be very cautious of like drivers like

Because drivers aren't as used to yielding to bikes as like Madison.

It's a vehicle city.

I mean, yeah,

it's those Green Bay and Appleton's doing a pretty good job.

And there's times you're

John Maino

in Green Bay, Jim, when I'm driving down and somebody's on the street and I think, geez, buddy, why are you in the middle?

But then you realize he's in a bike lane.

Yes.

I mean, he's in a legitimate

way.

And we

John Maino

got to realize that as drivers.

There's lines there.

There's a bike there.

And there's still the cars driving on that pass and on the right.

Yeah.

You know what

I

mean?

That's not your lane.

Yeah.

But again, the bicyclists got to yield.

You can't cut in front of cars.

We don't like that either.

I mean, I do both.

So I just think I have respect for both vehicles and bikes.

But you're saying that in Oshkosh, you think the infrastructure is pretty good?

Yeah, I think it's decent for a smaller city compared to Madison.

But for the second part of your question, I think we should just host more biking events.

I know Bike Osh is a big one.

I don't know too many other ones on like the top of my head, but I feel like we could definitely like create more awareness for biking.

John Maino

Can I bring in your social studies

teacher?

I just think how easy it is to bike.

It's not that expensive.

You can get a nice bike for 75.

You'll use one, but like John does.

But you can get a nice bike and like we talked about how the convenience of just

Parking and everything so yeah, you're right people need to get exposed to bikes because maybe some of them haven't ridden a bike in some time You never know

John Maino

I just want to say when I say introduce yourself

once more time

John Maino

My

name is Rick leap and you are the social studies teacher in the program You were that teacher

John Maino

that we always wanted in high school that would take people out of the classroom

Absolutely.

John Maino

Well,

it's funny you said that because every Saturday we do community rides.

And so one of the questions that you were mentioning, Mayor, about how do you create more safety, I think the point of the event is the more bikers you get out into the community.

the more visible you are, the more used to vehicles get used

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to all

the individuals.

And so on Saturday mornings, we get 15 to 20 kids that'll join me in a ride and we use a different infrastructure.

And Oshkosh has some great stuff, bike lanes to the Waiowash Trail, to the Riverwalk.

And so I get those kids on that infrastructure.

And to know how safe it is and that some people may not know you have these bike lanes too.

You don't mean to expose them to that.

Yeah,

even like the rapidly flashing beacons.

You know that are at Murdock and over on Whistle Street until someone uses them and then all of a sudden all of these cars stop and now you're starting to create this habit and awareness for exactly the bikers just

For John sake he gets them out of school.

He said Saturday.

Oh

All right, you're not as cool as I thought you were I did get him out of zero-hour class because both

of the boys

had zero-hour class I just before you say goodbye.

I would not you You teach leadership to absolutely.

I would just say something about how that

fits into what these guys are doing.

I mean, that's so important.

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, first of all, leaders got to put themselves out here, right?

And they got to extend themselves and stretch themselves.

They're in here this morning with you.

I mean, they're deathly or probably afraid.

What?

They come out of this and like I tell them, I do the gyms and intimidating guy.

Right, right, right.

I do do the paper and pencil test yet, but this is the true test, right?

And they walk out of here feeling like they they've impacted their community and they've represented their project.

So

those are those are the cool things that this program

allows.

It's the way the world works, too.

I mean, you read theory, these guys are smart teachers, but to really get out there and put the theory to the practice like.

You wrote the press release, and here you are sitting here.

You wrote

the press release.

OK, well, I just said I did it.

You'll learn to take credit for that,

John Maino

too.

The real world

doesn't.

You'll never

John Maino

ever occur in the media

if you don't take credit for things you don't do.

You'll take credit for it.

No, I just think that's great.

Here you are talking to thousands of people, and I think that's the real world.

So congratulations.

I think that's great.

You guys are here.

John Maino

Do you guys need emotional support, not emotional support, financial support or anything for you guys?

I need emotional support.

We're the ones

that need

emotional

support.

Actually, this is what Caden, as one of the project's leaders had to do and the two others, they went and sought outdoor prizes.

And the point is, is to expose the community to wonderful places like this,

John Maino

as

well as other local places.

So the local businesses have already truly stepped up.

Awesome.

Thanks so much for what you

John Maino

do.

This is great.

Congratulations, guys.

You guys are really impressive, man.

I wasn't like you guys in high school, but there was Jim.

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We got started quick break.

Thanks for being here.

John Maino

The ISS Studios in downtown Oshkosh.

And a sunny, sunny morning.

Very, very impressive.

Two young men there from Oshkosh, North High School.

Caden Leederhouse and Feneke Thompson.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

So it's like by gosh, but put a K there.

Why

John Maino

can't I do, I finally got

new

John Maino

Whiskah Weekend down, Pat.

Why can't I get this down,

Pat?

Because you're putting the accent on the wrong syllable.

You have to do by gosh.

By cash by cash by cash 25

by cash 25 by cash 25 by cash.

Okay, so all right We didn't I don't know if we spent enough time on the whole event 9am till noon on the 17th, right?

So the 17th and just contact these guys have phone number here 2 3 6 50 59.

Yep This is a cool thing you get the prizes you go to 20 different locations to pick up your stamp, but

I think what's more important about that is just more information on the biking culture here in Oshkosh.

Totally agree.

And I thought

John Maino

that the TG brought up a great point.

The more people that are out there on bikes, the more drivers will kind of get into that routine.

So I think that's great what they're doing, educating drivers and bikers.

And once again, Lakeshore Park Four Seasons building in Oshkosh.

And if you need more information, once again, it's May 17th, 9 to 12.

It goes on.

9 to 0.

two, three, six, 50, 59.

Two, three, six, 50, 59.

And they got the

Bikash Facebook page.

You can look at that as well.

We

should bring Peter and Tracy Fluckey down for something like that.

Yeah, they'd be great if they're

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out there.

Still looking for a winner for our contest.

Again, for our bumper sticker type thing.

Got some other ones here.

Mine on the bear.

Thank God they have textures.

All right, thank you.

Mine on the mare, two old white dudes who need metamucil.

Look who sent that one in.

Who is that?

Who?

Lisa Hale.

Oh.

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Mine

on the mare,

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listen, learn, laugh, love it.

Dave, thank you very much.

All right Dave, that's in the top three.

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Then extra guy, nice one here says, looking forward to Jim's presentation to the leadership Green Bay class of 2025 next Tuesday.

Wednesday.

Is it Tuesday?

It says here Tuesday.

Oh, that's gonna be a problem.

I

think it's

Wednesday.

I think it's Wednesday at one o'clock.

I'm looking forward to that.

A lot of people graduate of Leadership Green Bay.

just talked about how that exposes you to so much for your community.

You know some for a test for a good leader?

If they show up on time.

You and I miss not being mayor is an assistant.

So I'll look at that.

But I'm looking forward to that talk.

John Maino

Hey, also another thing here we haven't talked about.

Free Ticket Friday for the Milwaukee Brewers on WISS and WGBW starts tomorrow.

That's right.

Starts with Mino and the Mayor.

You'll have a chance to win all day long across all the shows on the radio stations.

So start listening tomorrow.

You walk away with that.

I believe four tickets to

Brewers game and that'll go on all season long free ticket Friday and how do they take part once again time tomorrow we will have a keyword for them to text in like we do with our other contests so be listening in for that I believe in the seven o'clock hour tomorrow morning

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fantastic yeah that'll be

a lot of fun

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good great stuff going on

I'm actually getting nervous I gotta go look at my phone and see what I'm

doing

It's one of those thoughts like it's like you giving a talk though on certain things like you know the subject so I'm not I won't panic it's the time I

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will say something that you have no idea well yeah you would how many times I'm driving to an event and I'm double-checking my mind oh yeah okay we're okay no I didn't pay enough it at the so-and-so

American Legion, you know what I mean?

We're just different things like that and you're driving there and it's like, oh crap.

So that does happen.

I used to DJ weddings and the entire way to the wedding.

Did I remember the special song, the father daughter dance?

Are they doing the thing before or after?

When did they do in the garden?

I

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didn't know you DJed

weddings.

I've always wanted to do that.

No, you don't.

Yeah, I do.

No, they don't.

You have.

Did you mention mine over here?

I don't have a bell.

He

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just earned

a rare bell.

It was crazy.

Hang on, hang

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on,

hang on.

It could

make.

It doesn't work.

Monster

can doesn't

work.

But a DJ can make or break a wedding.

at 100%, right?

They're not that cheap.

I mean, you think it, well, we're going with a DJ instead of

a band.

Not at all.

It's not that much cheaper.

Yeah.

If you're really good, you're worth it.

And there are some really good DJs out there.

I was mediocre at best, and I knew what worked, right?

You always played the twist.

But you know music so well.

Yeah, but then you get the people that come up and go, you know.

You know, it would get this party going is some ACDC and it's like right after dinner, right?

You're like, yeah, we'll get to the bride

said, don't play ACDC.

That's exactly right.

I did a

lot

of people requesting.

I did a wedding here in Oshkosh, not that, you know, right outside town at the Westward Ho campground.

I did a wedding and they wanted nothing but country music.

Okay.

And the wedding party was the only group dancing.

Nobody else was dancing.

So somebody came up and said, Hey, can you play some Van Morrison brown-eyed girl?

Perfect song, right?

Yeah.

Played it.

The crowd just went nuts, went on the dance floor.

All of a sudden the bride was walking up to the DJ stand and she said,

I only want country music.

Oh, man.

And by, I don't know.

Yeah, it didn't last long.

The wedding was done by like

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1030.

What's like the song?

What song do you play to get people in the dance floor?

I mean, back then it was, it was like the Brown Eyed Girls.

And so I don't know anymore.

That has changed so much.

But we had big malls at.

There's some bands that just are good at that, like

Big Mouth.

They did just that, it was the whole night.

I mean, I swear to God, they did just the whole night.

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This isn't a negative towards Big Mouth.

I love them.

I love them so much this first, but I was at, well, our buddy Kramer's, but the thing is they're so good that people just, they

sat

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like they're at a concert.

They didn't want to dance.

They didn't want to just listen to them

and watch them.

You know how I took care of that?

Took the mic and said,

I paid a lot of money for that.

This is not a show band.

This is a dance band.

And I'll tell you what, Johnny, they danced till all

night.

It was great.

You were scared of you.

But I did.

I said that it's on the video thing.

But we had to go with it.

Had to go with the DJ.

We went with a DJ for our other daughters.

Because he's from Columbia, Christian from here.

And there's not there's sort of a band that can play both.

Right.

So the guys like, I can do this thing.

And it was awesome wedding.

So yeah,

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DJs are great.

Let's go.

Let us know.

Anybody out there Texas where like the songs that DJ would have would use

to

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get people on the dance

floor and then it breaks the ice

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and then it kind of.

Yeah.

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Do they still do that?

Yes, they do.

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We got a quick break.

Connie Carmichael, Chamberlain.

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John Maino

Schmidt.

coming your way from WSS Studios in downtown Oshkosh.

Beautiful sunny morning out there.

Still a little chilly, 38 in Green Bay, 39 in Ampton, 41 in Oshkosh.

High in the upper fifties today and then it gets warm for the rest of the week after that.

Great guest today, Alicia Wenger, executive director of the Christine and Domestic Abuse Service here in Oshkosh.

Kayden Leaderhouse and Feneke Thompson.

By Kosh.

By

gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh

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25.

Great event coming up on

the

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17th.

And now Connie Carmichael from the Oshkosh Chamber.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I'm so

excited to be with Mino and the Mayor.

All right, all right.

Thank

you very much.

Put it on the bucket list.

Hey, welcome.

We're talking before.

We really broadcast in Green Bay, Appleton and Oshkosh, but boy, can a good chamber make or break a city, right?

I mean, just elevate it to that next level and you're doing great here.

Oh, that is so true.

I mean, I love all the members and all the businesses here in Oshkosh.

It really helps grow the community and we are so excited.

The networking support that you have.

The networking is out of this world.

It's amazing how many people come to our events, make new business friends and everything.

It's very exciting.

John Maino

I don't know if per capita the size of Oshkosh versus the number of people you bring in from outside for events between EAA and the volleyball tournament and some of these other things.

You guys got to be top in the state, aren't you?

Well, thank you.

John Maino

You put your hand in that as a chamber.

Yes, absolutely.

I'm surprised when I get calls from out of the state that people want to join the chamber that are moving their business here, opening a new business here.

I get really excited that some of the companies buy businesses.

We have so many of you probably came into town.

You saw a lot of new apartment complexes.

Absolutely.

Myren's busy.

It's just totally growing.

I love it.

So chamber, there's large, medium, and small businesses in your chamber.

Right.

900 members.

I was going through your benefits and some other chambers, but I think one of the coolest things you offer is that EAP program for small businesses, because that's the employee assistance program, which

I

think everybody knows.

But in running a business, it really sometimes isn't the product or the marketing or the cost, it's the people.

And when there's conflict, you as a manager, it's like, fix this.

You don't know how to fix it.

They're not your kids.

So to send them to EPA, I think is a great benefit that the Oshkosh Chamber

offers.

Absolutely, Jim.

That is great.

With that, Sean Fitzgerald, he's our economic outlook person, and he does a great job getting a meeting with people and finding what their need

is.

We have, like I said, we have four pillars, the economic development, resources.

We have advocacy, education and talent, which is awesome.

And then, of course, the events and programs, and that's what

I'm all about here today.

John Maino

Well, that's what I mean.

This is one of those cities.

It's not just, oh, we're a manufacturing city.

We've been that way for 150 years.

And that's what we're going to hang your hat on.

You guys still embrace that.

And we talk about this all the time at Nozium.

How much we love that you guys embrace your history here, Noshka.

Like I said, when I was driving here, like not even a half a block away, there's that beautiful, unbelievable granary that it says right in there.

Built in 1883.

The next one, 1889.

Right next to us, a fire station that probably used horses to pull the wagon.

I mean, these are really, really historical buildings right here in these cool little neighborhoods like the one we're in right now.

I think that for somebody from outside of an area to come and see how you guys have embraced your history.

That's pretty cool.

I absolutely love that, you know, especially in the Pain Arts Center and the Oshkosh Public Museum.

We have so much to offer in Oshkosh and I myself moved here a little over 30 years ago.

And once I moved here, I said, I'm not leaving.

Where did you come

from?

Where did you come from?

All over.

I was born in Germany.

I grew up down south.

I still have a little bit of twang, sorry.

I hear

that once in a while.

Mobile Alabama.

Wow.

My granddaddy worked for WKRG.

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No, Kenny.

Well, that's cool.

between Todd and Lisa, they're Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia.

Oh,

yeah.

Well, how y'all do

it?

Right.

You didn't bless your heart.

You

didn't really

need to twang when she said granddaddy.

That's really not Midwest thing.

That's cool.

Were you an

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Army brat in

Germany?

I was.

I was for many years and I went to school there.

I went to the real kindergarten and I absolutely loved it.

John Maino

Was your mom originally German from Germany?

No, no, my mom was from Mobile.

My dad was from Mississippi.

Wow.

But he was in the Army Air Force back in the day till they split up.

Air Corps, Army Air Corps.

Wow,

that's awesome.

I

know it was 30 years ago.

Just quickly, how did you get...

here.

Well, I moved around quite a bit in TV and radio.

Did you do TV?

I did.

Here in town, back in the day, it was called OCAT, Oshkosh Community Access Television.

I even started up, helped start up with Andy Radick, a low-powered FM station, W-O-C-T.

Well, that's cool.

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So you're...

comfortable right here

in front of a microphone.

Yes.

I was at North Dakota in North Dakota for one year to the day and had to get out of there.

And then I loved it when I got to Oshkosh.

Williston.

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Williston.

I don't even know

that

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one.

So were you a radio person and moving around and

stuff?

I did like background and automation and things like that.

And then did on air here in town.

That's cool.

Connie, Connie, what if you had a place

a note on something about Oshkosh.

We are able to attract companies to build here and create jobs.

We have the ability to have people open businesses.

What do you think as being the head of the chamber?

Why

is it?

I'm not the head of the chamber.

Well, you know what I'm saying.

I'm claiming as the head of the chamber.

You're the spokesperson.

I'm just one part of it.

What do you think though?

Why is that?

Why does Oshkosh always seem to perform really well in those areas?

Honestly, I think it's the people.

I

was just gonna

say.

I love the staff too at Discover Oshkosh.

Oshkosh community is so welcoming.

And it's really about the people first and the businesses second, but I think it's how people treat everyone.

They're so welcoming when they come to town.

I felt that when I first moved to town as well.

I've had many people on here from Oshkosh, and I will say, I think you're, I know you're right about the people part of it, but the people who live here, they're not leaving.

And I think that says a lot for a new business.

It's like, because if they come here and it's like, Oshkosh, that's pretty good.

We're kind of looking at maybe going to Nashville or something, but nobody says that here.

They don't.

And I don't know.

I feel that why would you leave?

We have so much to offer.

And actually,

We have surrounding areas, too, from Milwaukee, Appleton, Fond du Lac, Green Bay.

The town

of Dale.

The

town of

Dale.

What I think is cool about Oshkosh, too, is that you do reach out past the municipality.

Your food pantry will serve anyone that comes in.

We just had somebody out here from the domestic abuse shelter, and it's very regional.

And I think that's healthy for you to be regional versus...

Oh, absolutely.

And father cars, and there's so many things for...

everybody Christine and center like you had on earlier I was over there a couple of weeks ago and That place is amazing all the things that they offer

and so in recruiting talent They look for a lot of things and sure you've done your surveys What are you looking for but boy do they want a community that takes care of the social issues because if you just say you know We got fireworks.

We got soccer.

It's like okay.

What else?

What are you doing for?

Because every community has homeless people everybody has domestic the people who deal with it

are more respected and appreciated by young talent than the people who don't.

Yeah, I agree with

that.

I have three millennials, so I can speak to that.

They really look for that with an interview, they look for jobs, people who, and I just think, Oshkosh, you're there.

I believe so, and I think we're a very diverse community as well.

You're absolutely right, Tim.

How about the university?

Do you have a pretty close affiliation

with them?

Yes, we do quite a bit of things with the university as well.

We have a lot of programs over there at the Culver Center.

We just met the new chancellor a couple of weeks ago when we had an event there.

And the chamber events, you have a lot of events that go on, but one of your big ones is the chamber breakfast.

I've gone to that a couple times.

You bring in some pretty big-time speakers.

Oh, yeah, we do.

We have so many different events and happening.

Something that is great for everyone because some people can make the morning events like we also have an Oshkosh connection breakfast.

We have an AM Oshkosh, which is wonderful.

What AM Oshkosh is more of

a networking group where you get to go behind the scenes at different larger companies and manufacturing companies.

We even went to the prison once.

That was very interesting.

Do you have a leadership Oshkosh program?

We're

just talking

about Green Bay has one, and I actually took that 25 years ago, but it really exposes

your team.

What day was that?

What year was

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that?

Somebody texted, Jim, I'm so looking forward to seeing you speaking at our Leadership Green Bay Conference next Tuesday.

And Jim goes, I think that's Wednesday.

I was wondering why

he said that.

That's just a great thing.

And if people can learn more about their community, I mean, your focus is your business.

You've got to make your business successful.

But there's so much.

else going on in the

community.

With the leadership Oshkosh program, Trina Walt is amazing.

She's the lead for our leadership Oshkosh program.

We have quite a few programs with the leadership Oshkosh program.

We also just started a mindset, a leadership mindset program.

We have a lunch and lead that we have at the Oshkosh Country Club.

Kathryn Lake

We have

youth leadership.

So we start early and we keep them going and they are

true leaders of the Oshkosh Chamber.

I

John Maino

just want to throw two other quick things so that we haven't mentioned that two cool things of Oshkosh.

I think one of the most underrated things is the Veterans Museum.

Yes.

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I think that's awesome.

And we didn't mention a team that plays just down the street here at

the

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Wisconsin Herd.

Oh my goodness.

Yes.

At venue works at the Wisconsin Herd, they are amazing.

Andy, who runs venue works there.

He has done an incredible job.

He just started a little over a little less than a year ago.

The Veterans Museum.

We're actually excited because next year I'm already booking all of our events for next year and we are going to be doing a business after hours at the Veterans

Museum.

That's always fun.

Yeah, they are great.

We do a lot with them as well.

Beautiful.

And I just want to say that you're arena and I'm glad it's successful.

I know like a lot of businesses, you know, kind of.

It was tough to get going, but your events also support the community.

And I think that's pretty cool.

He did

something for the homeless one time.

I think he did something for the veterans one time.

And I think that's great that they're so connected.

They're not just out on an island.

You're absolutely right.

There's so many different things, and I apologize if I'm forgetting some of them, because there's so many we don't have time for.

Which is

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great.

That's a great, that's

a great thing to

say.

But call me, call me, I'll have lunch with you and we'll talk.

Okay, we'll do that.

I just, two other things I just want to mention on the benefits that you offer there, I think a small business.

the prescription drug card, that's getting crazy with healthcare.

So I'm glad the chamber stepped up and said, look, maybe we can help you.

And the other thing I just want to say that's, I think it's kind of funny to see is the suit of discount.

You actually give business people discount on clothes.

And I think we all need that.

Well, when you said about the healthcare stuff too, with the chamber, when you join the chamber, you can have as minimum as two to 99 employees and you can get on our network health plan as well.

That's an expense and you gotta have those benefits today,

especially nowadays.

That's right.

Very good stuff.

This is

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awesome what you're doing like, so we love coming down here.

We just love this building and we love what you guys do in downtown Oshkosh and all the things.

And you know what's cool though too?

You get the young group here, like these two young men.

We had

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here and they're all in on so

they were amazing.

I was listening to them.

They

love Oshkosh too.

I mean, these guys are going to do this.

They're not getting any credit.

They just want to do it because they like biking.

They love Oshkosh.

You got to

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put this in your radio voice to wrap this up.

Okay.

You're gonna say,

but we got to talk about splashing the summer.

Okay.

We'll talk about

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that.

But then you got to send us to a

break.

Oh, we'll be right back with Mino and the mayor right after

this.

Kathryn Lake

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John Maino

I shouldn't say down here because this is part of her home turf here in Oshkosh This is part of our town too beautiful morning out there a lot of sunshine 41 in Green Bay now 39 aptin 42 in

Oshkosh.

Once again, we got a free ticket Friday coming up on WISS and WGBW.

Starts tomorrow.

Win four tickets to a Milwaukee Brewers game.

We're joined right here.

Connie Carmichael Oshkosh Chamber.

Talk about some of just the great things you guys do.

And you know what?

You guys are just getting started for this year.

Oh, yeah.

We never stop.

But it's pretty cool.

The business expo you have, the speakers, the networking opportunities.

We talked about all that stuff.

But you also have things coming up.

Tell me about the Splash into, Splash into Oshkosh.

Splash into Summer.

Oh, Summer, okay, all right.

Yeah, let's just dive in.

Oh, I got

it.

All

right, go ahead.

What is it?

So Splash into Summer is our great membership drive, so to speak, but...

What's great about this is that we're promoting Waterfest, the Waterfest concert series right here in downtown Oshkosh.

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Which is one of the cool venues in northeast Wisconsin.

It is.

It is wonderful.

It's not only cool, it's wet, it's wild, it's splashing around.

really kicks off the summer concert series.

That's for sure.

So when you join the chamber, you receive, not only do you receive over $3,000 in benefits and savings, you also get 15 months for the price of 12 and drum roll please.

There

we

go.

That's enough drums there.

It's timpani

roll.

Although you'll hear that at Waterfest.

But you also get

two free complimentary VIP season passes to all of the WaterFest 2025.

Is your lineup up now?

That's cool.

You.

Oh, well, starting things off is.

I guess

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this is a yes.

Yes, it is.

It starts June 19th and it is unbelievable.

We have hairball.

Hairball is kicking things off.

We have George Thurill good coming.

Oh, yeah.

Marsha Ball, Vic Ferrari.

Oh, my

gosh.

We have the producers, Steely Dan.

Oh, my gosh.

So much more.

This

is awesome.

You

have to definitely go to waterfest.org to get the complete lineup.

And I think I got a little treat for some listeners toward the end of this program.

Do you want me

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to introduce George Thurgood?

How

about, you know, one

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baby, one Scotch,

one beer.

So which one are you going to have in your hands?

All three.

A

baby, a Scotch, and a beer.

Wow, that's quite a lineup.

It is.

We were

talking about that earlier before we even got on the air this morning about how

important that is to a community and to people to gather outside for a live concert.

It is so fun.

People really get into it.

People dress in retro clothes.

They just have so much fun.

It's a great way to meet and greet people that you haven't seen in a while.

dancing, good music, kind of brings you, if you could go back in time, you know, it's such a fun time.

You bring the food trucks into all this

too?

We do have food, we have food, we have beer, soda, you name it.

John Maino

That's great.

All right.

And you can take it, take your boat there.

And you can take your boat there because we are on the water still.

So where do we get all this?

What's the, is it on the Chambers website or is that in downtown Oshkosh?

You contact me, Connie at Oshkosh.

And I will hook you up.

That's great.

Nice.

That's that sounds

like a good lineup.

Yeah.

It is amazing.

And I have to say, I don't

know.

Do you guys know how long Waterfest has been going on?

39 years.

So I was

going to say, she told

us.

I did tell you.

And I have to say, I have to say some of the original, not the original songs and everything else, but some of the original players of Waterfest who.

Helped with this is Mike Dempsey.

A lot of people know Mike Dempsey.

Of course, Rob Clayman, our CEO and president.

John Casper, Chuck Hurdle.

I'm sure there's many more.

And we have a lot of great people, great staff.

Alice Roberts from the Chamber and Jeff McBride, who helped kick all these things off.

It is amazing if you haven't been here for Waterfest.

You have to check out all the restaurants and everything that are going on where you can walk, go out to eat and then go down to water fast.

Connie, so you've done some radio and TV.

I'm going to make you Vanna White now

because we

do have some prizes

to

give away this morning.

So

tell us what we've got for

listeners.

So first prize is not two, but four.

season passes to the Waterfest Concert Series.

That's

Kathryn Lake

fantastic.

You don't have to

be a member, but if you want to be a member, you'll get all the other benefits as well.

And a consolation prize, excuse me, a consolation prize is four VIP tickets to Hairball for the kickoff night.

Love it.

Love it.

So what we'll do right now is you can text the studio, download the Civic Media app right away, choose WISS or WGBW say, hey, I want the tickets and we will randomly choose somebody for the four season passes and somebody else to win the four VIP for hairball.

Absolutely.

Look at it.

She's like Vanna White.

She comes prepared.

I'm even going to give you guys that you can use throughout the summer season.

I'll give you some free tickets for Waterfest as well.

We love you.

Perfect.

I can't

give enough.

I can't give enough.

OK,

John Maino

you gotta do us one more favor then.

OK, hang on.

You're going to have her read something.

OK.

Back with more.

after this.

I'm just

giving a tease.

Absolutely.

I want to just touch a little bit on the recruitment to get people, I mean, finding talent.

What do you do for that?

To bring new employees, keep employees?

What do you do for the young talent?

We need to get them here.

We have so much to offer.

It's a fun organization.

It's a great organization.

We help so many

people and businesses and the community.

If you love working with a great group of people, please contact me and I'll get you who you need to go to.

Awesome.

John Maino

All right.

You've been awesome.

You've been awesomer.

John Maino

Next time we come to Oshkosh, you're coming back one way or another.

All right.

Sounds good to me.

Splash into summer.

John Maino

Don't forget about the thorough good intro.

Think about it.

Okay, thank you.

All right.

You're the best.

Thank you so much for being here.

Thanks

for having me.

John Maino

Connie Carmichael, Oshkosh Chamber, mind on the mare.

Woo, right

after this.

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Kathryn Lake

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Here are your hosts John Minow and Jim Smith

All right, thank you Dave.

Yeah, it was a

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great show.

Thanks.

I love

Jim

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Good morning, it's gonna be awesome David Ruby hypnotist work.

Well hypnosis.

How you doing doing well?

Good to

see you.

Thanks.

All right.

You are a certified hypnotist.

Yes.

And you said you have several certificates.

Like what what what how many fields does a hypnotist work in?

Like why do you have several certificates?

Because I couldn't stop at one training I had to basically keep going.

I my wife would say that I'm a bit compulsive in that regard where if I have an interest in something I keep doing it.

So I initially took hypnosis as.

Interest what can I give my origin story the brief version?

Yeah, absolutely

So I was a medical librarian people and they say do your research like that was me I would I worked in a hospital for like 11 and a half years as I had a degree in research Teaching background before that and I would just research things so for doctors and physical therapists and stuff.

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I think that sounds pretty cool

Yeah, you're correct, sir.

Yeah.

So I was learning about that stuff and I was a skeptic of hypnosis.

I thought it was again, we see on TV waving pocket watches people's faces

and

click like chickens.

Right.

At least once today I got asked.

And I was curious about it.

I thought it's probably nothing, but I can research it.

I'm PubMed Jackie.

I'll go on there and see what the research says.

And when I found it, it was useful for things.

Well, that's cool.

Then I had read an account where it was used for surgical anesthesia.

Wow.

So at a certain point in history you go back far enough they didn't have anesthesia.

If you had surgery you had to basically

Suck it up and hope you didn't get sepsis or going to shock and die.

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And you hate to say but the term bite the bullet comes from military guys getting up and they would literally do that

Yeah, I mean there their second thing was like here drink a lot of alcohol and hopefully you know

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in okay in In Italy world this is an Ernest Hemingway's book for whom the bell toll either that one or the other about that when he's an ambulance driver and Italy whatever and they got wounded and they were sort of and I said they were using grappa

as an anesthetic to just numb the pain a little bit.

That's what they were reduced to, so go ahead.

Yeah,

I was an English teacher, so I actually remember that

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book.

Oh, you remember that?

Yeah.

Yeah, great book.

Yeah.

Big Hemingway fan as a side.

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But I researched.

You're proud that I've read all the Hemingway books?

She didn't read.

I read every Hemingway book there is.

She bought the yellow book.

But I was never

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all that impressed with any of the movies.

Were you?

I don't know if I've seen any Hemingway movies.

Yeah.

Not if you read the books, big let down.

What a segue.

Yeah.

Anyway, so.

Who knew what this is going the structure?

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We go all over.

I gotta be honest with you.

I love it.

Okay.

Anyway, back to the the story for the listeners I was so I went on PubMed and essentially when I found it was useful for a surgical anesthesia I'm like, well, you can't fake that.

I mean,

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you can't fake, you

know, getting your, you know, open heart surgery.

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You're

appendix out.

Yeah, you know, a leg getting cut off.

Yeah, feel no pain.

So that's how I got into it.

So essentially I learned of it just as a hobby and then

I was told, well, you can do this as a job, essentially, and help people.

And people are getting hit most either they're just curious about the mind and or they want to help people and or they want to dominate the world, which is not how it works.

Or else I'd have a better car, I suppose.

But so I started taking classes and I got it just took an online class and like from a trainer who's actually well known now.

And then I took I took in person trainings at hitting with thoughts live in Vegas, where I'm actually speaking in a couple months.

and so are a lot of other people.

So I got certifications from different organizations, different classes, and essentially once you know it, it's like a skill.

It's like building cabinets, not literally, but you have a skill you know how to do an induction and how to guide people and to make changes.

Then you learn more different styles, different approaches for different conditions or different personality types, being able to kind of deal with how they do the problem.

So I was curious so essentially I could have stopped years ago and save myself lots of time and money But I was curious

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and I

also if I'm gonna take someone's money and potentially impact their life in some way hopefully good I wanted to be good at I didn't want to just like take a class get a certification be done.

So I that's why the many certifications

So you're not like an entertainer you actually are

One-on-one, you tell people, what, lose weight, stop biting their nails?

What kind of things do you hypnotize people?

I

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know a guy that smoked for 50 years had lung cancer, still wouldn't stop smoking.

And this was, what was it called, hypnosis?

That's the only thing that got him to

stop smoking.

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And so for a guy that I know who was smoking camels with throat cancer for something to finally make him stop, this was it.

How does that happen?

Magic.

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It

depends on the person to answer

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your

question first.

So weight loss and well, every hypnotist will get asked, can you help me to lose weight, quit smoking or will you make me click like a chicken?

Okay.

And it's yes, yes.

And I never actually try.

Actually, my friend Pete wanted me to make him click like a chicken.

I'm like, we'll see.

If you can't

get

him to stop that.

Okay.

Not how it works, but yeah, that's.

But so weight loss and smoking are kind of the bread and butter of the industry.

Um, nail biting phobias, fears and phobias.

Um, let's see.

Basically anything you can feel think or behavior you can change so

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People have the biggest fear is speaking in public.

Yeah, can something like this help them?

Absolutely

Okay, and just to kind of break that down So if you have a fear of and this is the same to for athletes to that I'd like a fear or they have like anxiety around a match I work the athletes a lot too.

That's when my my niches

So if you are a fear of public speaking, well, you have either you picture a crowd a certain way where it's intimidating, maybe they're gigantic and they're staring at you, usually unfriendly.

Or if you tell yourself, I'm going to suck at this, which don't.

But you know, people would do something like that where they have like a feeling in their stomach and you can change that with hypnosis or NLP is another related field called neuro linguistic programming.

You can change how they represent that.

So your brain has to do something to give you that feeling.

So if you have a fear of public speaking, your brain is doing something to let you know, oh,

I should be afraid of this.

Now, you, hypnotists will figure out like what they, I mean, it depends on the hypnotist, but what I do is, how do you, how do you have that fear?

You know, is it, what do you imagine your mind, you know, is it something you're picturing, you're telling yourself, do you have a sense of, is there a feeling, is there a movement in your stomach?

You know, you can, once you know what's going on there, then you start to work with it.

You can also just essentially ask the unconscious mind to do something more productive.

You know, you thank it for what it's doing.

because anything we do, whether we like it or not, it's, it's done for a reason.

It's done because it worked at some point or else your brain would do something different.

You know, our brains are not stupid.

So you essentially, I want to thank the unconscious mind for what it's trying to do, but let's do something different.

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Okay, you talked about sports.

I remember a couple of guys to disguise specifically, I remember, and they talked about this because there are two guys, major league baseball players that couldn't throw a ball.

Steve Sax was one, Chuck Knoblock was the other, both major league players, and they developed some kind of a phobia.

They couldn't throw a ball from here through that door.

It was all over the place, and they received help from someone like you.

What did you, you know what I mean?

What would you put in their mind where something they've done since they were what, three years old and never thought of, and now all of a sudden, they couldn't do it because they were overthinking it?

Yeah, so you can do things to quiet their mind.

You can do look at like what are they what are they doing like what's going on whenever they have what's y'all It's triggering.

What are they doing?

So essentially if you ferret that out and then it's based on them So it's based on that individual person how they're doing the problem and then you can essentially change how they do that you have them Yeah, you can do it within with hypnotic trance.

We call it where they go into like a the tip history of the Traditional sort of hypnotic trance approach and then you have their unconscious mind do something different

You can also have them just kind of practice like it's a matter of course how they think of it You know, what are they looking at?

How do they?

Imagine that scenario happening and then you have them imagine something better You can also have

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can I give you one of those and tell me if this is the same thing Yeah, and this was a guy who was a former major league baseball player and he now speaks about thing and what his person somebody exactly like you Okay, what they told because he was going up against this picture that could throw like a hundred miles an hour And it was this huge game and everything and what the guy had put in his mind

you're the tiger, he's a sheep.

You're better than he is.

Even if your mind says he is, you step up to the plate, you're the tiger, he's a sheep, and you're going to devour him.

And he says, no matter what happens, that's going to happen.

And he says, that was his mindset, which he would take to the plate every single time versus what it would have been otherwise.

Oh, crap.

I just hope I get my bat on the ball.

I hope I don't get embarrassed.

I hope I don't.

You know what I mean?

And that made such a difference for him.

Something like that.

That's a facet.

So having that mindset changes how you respond.

So if you have that mindset, oh, I don't know if I can do this.

I hope I can at least hit the ball

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in the back.

Exactly.

Right.

As opposed to I'm going to destroy this.

This ball is going to, like, it's going to be disintegrated and it's going

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to

fly across.

That changes how your mind believes you and you tell it things.

But what's the difference in, that was a pep talk versus hypnosis.

How do you alter the subconscious?

Yes.

So the

difference with hypnosis is sticking power.

And if you do that, if you have, if you give yourself a pep talk enough times and you start to believe it, like that, that can be hypnotic.

Okay.

So like hypnosis, one of the things that we use as an example is if you ever drive your car.

So you drive.

That was a question.

So if you, if you

draw.

He's deep.

I

know it.

Well, but if you drive your car,

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we're expecting such an easy question from you.

Let's be honest.

Well,

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yeah, the hard stuff.

Yes.

Right.

But if you drive your car, you don't have to think about moving your hands.

You don't have to think about like, you know, your foot in the gas

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pedal,

you know, you just do it.

So Gnosis is similar to that.

So if you have a question, you've gotten on this track, but Gnosis is similar.

Like what Gnosis is, you could describe it Gnosis as being absorbed and focused in something.

If you read a book, you're looking at scribbles on a piece of paper and you're imagining very rich things.

You know, you're imagining, you know, sights and sounds and smells, tastes and feels.

So that's, hypnosis kind of uses what your brain already does.

So the difference between like a pep talk and hypnosis is probably that you, you imagine it more vividly.

You give your unconscious mind, you can future pacing do things so that it becomes how you naturally do things.

So the trigger that led to that baseball player.

I hope I can get the ball on the bat as opposed to that trigger means I'm gonna kill it This guy is a sheep.

I'm a lion.

I'm gonna devour the sky.

I get better in the sky I can do it that becomes how you think So I think good hypnotist will probably want to condition that in so it's not just like you tell them once It's that you future pace that so every time you get to the bat you get to the base you see you know the guy in the mound

This program clicks in

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so it goes to a different layer than just that superficial pep talk, correct

Yeah, and a pep top can be hypnotic if you have a good coach that it has you in a moment where you have by and you have their attention you give that that message like You are gonna be the best ball player ever and that clicks in every ball that moment where someone says something and it has an impact That's essentially that's probably every bit of hypnotic is any suggestion.

I would make it's just like in a more naturalistic

Jim

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told me I sucked one time.

I've never gotten over it.

Well, I tell them

that every day.

That's what we've been on.

I just want to get, do you, I've given those talks to people, look them in the eye and hold their shoulders and say, look, man, you can do this, but I don't know that that's hypnotic.

Do you get them like ready?

What about the pocket watch?

I mean, I want to make funny, but I just, how do you get them into the, I

will just say this, hearing him talk.

When he was telling you know how this works, I'm doing all this imagining and I'm following along.

So I don't know I'm just saying there.

I think his presentation is is hit not okay.

Well, I have been doing this

for 13 years.

I have 13 years.

I think this point So I like to think I'm pretty decent at it, but to answer your question You do things like you get I mean some of the stuff will have cross over like with your coach essentially So a good coach could be like a great hypnotist if they learn the stuff but

So in like in a session with an actual person, I will report them, you know, start to like see how they, you know, you have a talk, so you're having like a conversation.

You see how they, how they operate, you know, what are their modalities, so to speak.

And then, you know, for most hypnotists, you do an induction where you get them to go into hypnotic trance and the uptime stuff is different for the hypnotists out there if they're not listening.

We're

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going to have to send her a quick break.

We want to pick it up as soon as we get back.

We've only got a million questions.

We're going to have 10 minutes to come back.

So, Jim, you're going to take it from there.

But I think the athletic part.

I'd love to just because I know there's so many people listening who are kids in sports and whatever.

That's pretty

close.

I want to hypnotize them into being confident.

So many

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people are like, I can't do

this.

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Yes, you can.

Back after this with the tremendous man, David Ruby.

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I was out on the west coast trying to make

a buck.

And things didn't work out.

Hey, welcome back.

My name is Mark coming away

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from our studios in Oshkosh at WIS.

We're with David Ruby.

Workwell Hypnosis.

This is some fascinating stuff.

And I'm sorry we only have another 10 minutes or so because I want to get, I would like love to talk about the type of athletes you deal with.

But Jim, you got a bunch of really

good questions.

I just want to know, you have a private practice.

Do people come to you?

Do they get referred to you?

Tell me about, you're right here on Main Street in Oshkosh.

So I go Main Street and you...

Solo practice who's at the partner practice partnership.

Yeah, so I've had a practice for I think it's been 11 years now

I was

I was a fox by hypnosis until COVID hit then we went virtual because you couldn't see people in person and then I was David we've noses and my wife had a practice She got hypnosis kind of later than I did.

She'd been doing it for I think I think three years now give or take I lose track of time But I think it's been three or she's been doing hypnosis and she had our own practice and we thought well, we might as well combine it and work well at noses

And we've had that for, I think, about a year and a half.

That's been our business name as a joint practice.

So what's the most common request you get?

I call you on the phone.

Is it the confidence thing?

Is it the sports?

Is it snakes?

I mean, why do people call you?

And will you take anyone?

Tell me about, I want to learn more about you.

Yeah, weight loss and smoking are probably the most common.

Anxiety is another one.

I do see athletes.

I like to see athletes.

I work with school.

I'm a student athlete.

I've worked with amateurs as well.

People are more adult.

Otherwise, it's weird things like.

things that they don't know who else to talk to.

So it could be relationship issues, I've had a few of those.

It could be fears of driving, it could be nail picking, things like that.

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And I hate to say this, don't take this the wrong way, but it's what I'll think sometimes where people are like, I've tried everything else, I might as well try this.

How dare you,

sir?

No, I was thinking it, I just didn't ask it.

No, you can ask me anything, I don't care.

I'm not easily funded.

It's either there, like this is literally the last thing.

You know, I've tried everything else.

That's probably pretty common or it's people who are I'm always surprised like yeah, I know I believe this works entirely I was a skeptic.

So I'm always like I'm happy to explain why this works.

Here's

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your skeptic.

Oh, yeah, before I got into this.

So I kind of expect people would be but they're people who come there.

They have total buy-in and a typical birthing and I use hypnosis to manage this when I was younger and

Are you someone that people would go see and pick something but fear flying?

Yes

Is it, is it a one session?

Is it 10 sessions hard?

It depends.

So some things are more like smoking tends to be more binary.

Like we have a smoking package because there's a guarantee with it.

But with smoking, usually people, they're like the quitter they don't, right?

You know, either most people think I'm a smoker or I'm not a smoker.

Weight loss is different because you can't stop eating.

There's a lifestyle change.

For phobias, fears, anxieties,

There can be layers.

So sometimes one is done, one or two sessions.

There have been clients who are like, I'll be seeing this person for a while.

And after one or two sessions, they're like, I'm good.

Thanks.

It was great.

Nice meeting you.

Other things, I'm like, oh man, one session, this, I nailed it.

This is amazing.

Then like, yeah, I need some more work because there are layers.

It doesn't mean it didn't work.

It means that it's like adding weight to a scale.

If your problem is 100 pounds of, so to speak, metaphorically,

And hypnosis does 85 pounds.

That's a huge shift.

But the scales that move until it's balanced out.

Did that make sense?

Yeah, that's good stuff, man.

Contacting.

Your practice, you have a website or something that we can, I'd be actually learning more about you.

I don't know.

I've got a few things I could come to see about.

So let's share that, Jim.

Let's dig into that.

These guys

are

laughing.

I

don't

think there's anything wrong with seeing a therapist.

Take your shoes off.

Lead on.

Well, I think hypnosis is you're learning to use your mind, to work with your mind.

So there's nothing wrong with it.

I mean, I think that that's a skill everyone could and arguably should have.

It doesn't mean things wrong.

It means you want to get the most out of your mind, out of your life.

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Okay.

One last thing I want to ask you about the athlete part because that's, can you tell me the type of athlete you deal with?

I mean, I'm just not asking for specifics, but the type of athlete that would come to you.

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, so most of it, people tend to, um, they come to me because they either they have some issue they want to overcome or they just want to get amazing at it.

So either like, I had one, one client who, um, actually two quick story.

One client, he had a, um, a wrestler.

He had someone he had lost to and he

was nervous about this guy and both were great wrestlers.

And so he was just anxious and wanted to like just really beat the sky, but he was nervous.

And so he viewed this guy.

These are like middle school kids, too.

So not huge.

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We viewed him

like he was like Brock Lesnar or something like,

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you

know, he had this visual of this guy and he would tell himself things that were not helpful and he would get feelings of nervousness.

So you address those individually.

Another other wrestler who was

He was anxious about wrestling.

He would just be like a nervous wreck before match.

He would still win.

He was built like a tank, you know, a really nice kid.

He would be very nervous.

And after the first session, his coach had to go and like literally like kick him gently, kick him away to like, you know, because he was napping between matches like, Hey, your match is over.

You got to go get there.

And he was super chill.

And we found out his coaches and parents didn't know this, but he wasn't anxious about wrestling.

He was anxious about everything.

And now after one session, that was essentially gone.

We did two sessions just to kind of

Consolidate the work.

I'm excited know that it works so well But he was he would nervous about his job his parents schools girlfriend

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and

I would

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think correct me if I'm wrong on this two minutes Correct me if I'm wrong a coach could tell him that a parent could tell them that a teammate could tell them that but coming from somebody like you that's a little bit outside of his Circle of influence or whatever like to call it.

I would think him taking that like ooh Okay

This guy doesn't have any other motives versus my teammates or my mom or my dad telling me these things, whereas you are a little bit more objective on the outside.

I would think they would take that deeper.

True?

Yes, and I'm also speaking to them differently.

I'm speaking to their unconscious mind.

I'm doing things to like, not just give them a pep talk, but to let them like practice what that's going to be like to live that way.

So when they walk into a match or they walk into a meeting at their job or whatever.

They imagine it very differently.

They see themselves doing something differently.

They're able to practice being different way.

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This is fascinating stuff.

Your wife just texted into the show.

Gina.

Yes.

Yep.

What's the website for people who would like to get involved?

Thanks, hon.

So the website is workwellhypnosis.com.

What is it?

Workwellhypnosis.com.

OK, Workwell.

Right

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here in

Oshkosh.

Yes.

Yeah, we do see people in person on 507 North Main Street, Oshkosh.

We also see people on Zoom.

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Let's stay.

This has been, I could talk to you for two hours, but you would get really annoyed because I'd keep asking about different things.

Maybe you could get you to.

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How could I be a better radio guy?

Oh, God.

Let me

step on that one

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more time.

You know that kind of money.

Work well, hypnosis.

You're awesome.

This has been great having you here.

Yeah, thank you very much.

Appreciate

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it.

Thank you.

Quick

break,

back up.

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Julie, 41, 39, 42 in the whole area, high in the mid to upper 50s today by a beautiful, beautiful, sunshiny day.

By the way, congratulations to Dave from Oshkosh, winner of four season passes for Waterfest.

All right, Dave.

That's a big.

Bleeping prize and then Greg from Appleton for VIP passes for a hairball at waterfest Those are cool.

Although I will say this it'd be great to have VIP passes Yes, but something else.

That's very cool.

There is that a nice night sitting on the hillside having that music come up at you That ain't a bad setting either.

Is it Pat?

They're all good.

Welcome to waterfest in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

Oh my gosh.

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Is he joining us?

We are so excited

Waterfest, you just took my breath away.

Yeah.

Thorough good.

Thorough good.

Uh, lover boy.

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Yes.

Steely Dan.

Yeah.

Kate Voss in the hot sauce.

Oh, we love Kate Voss.

Our own,

our own local, uh, our own local artist

is going to be on the stage.

And she's, she's been on our show before.

Absolutely.

On our music segment.

Guys, welcome to spring in Oshkosh.

I know, right?

Nice, buddy.

Pat Tracy with Discover Oshkosh.

You have a compliment.

I don't know if you were listening earlier, but we had Connie on here, Connie Carmichael from the chamber.

Yes.

And we're telling her that, look, we think Oshkosh has it going on.

And a couple of respects, right?

And she said Discover Oshkosh is one of the reasons.

So I think that's pretty cool that the chambers, sometimes chambers take all the credit.

I mean, it's pretty

cool that she shared.

It's really interesting that, you know, we've become

I just the tourism and fun organization for like the whole city.

And that's just because Amy, our leader, has just like embraced it.

And we're like, we are committed to making Oshkosh fun for visitors and residents.

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But you know what the cool part is?

You got like these young kids here from Oshkosh, these young gentlemen from Oshkosh North High School, 16, 17, 15 years old, and they're taking the picking up the gauntlet already and leading things that could last for the next 40 years.

They're all

in.

How cool is that?

Yes.

Yes.

Your own homegrown talent.

And give credit to the social studies teacher too for teaching his kids leadership skills besides just the X's and O's of social studies, you know.

And I just think that you, yeah, you made a good point.

I think you're all in it together.

And I think that's really, really,

really important.

Yes.

Yes.

So this weekend, fellas, is possibly the most important day of the year.

Mother's Day.

Oh, yeah.

Oh,

yeah.

That would be.

And so I want to invite all the mothers and families in Northeast Wisconsin to join us at the Pain Arts Center and Gardens.

in beautiful Oshkosh because it's free admission on Mother's Day.

The tulips are blooming.

It is incredible.

There's literally thousands of tulips in every possible color.

And so moms and families, if you are out and about, just stop by the Pain Arts Center this Sunday for free admission.

If you're busy this Sunday with your mom activities next Saturday, I want to say that's the 17th, is the Pain Annual

Festival of Spring, which is another free day to get into the pain, but then right across the street from the pain are like 60 artisans, plant sale, flowers,

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everything.

So we've got a Sunday and a Saturday here in Oshkosh that if you have not been to the pain recently, you should come down and see it.

That sounds

great.

Yeah, that that.

Mother's Day, you gotta do something special.

You better do something special.

But I mean, that's the busiest day on the phone, which I think is appropriate, right?

I mean, you should call your mother.

But yeah, that's a cool thing to do.

Yes.

Yeah, I

I'll see my mother gets a little tougher one in her 90s.

It's like

yeah Yeah,

I don't know the pain That's not that you

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didn't correct me if I'm wrong

last

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time we were here didn't you bring her some of the cheese

cake or something That's that's it's gonna be it's gonna be

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that's I'm gonna

get

just mom.

Just want to stay home and watch the Brewer's game.

She's just

chocolate I mean chocolate you have the best chocolate down here in Oshkosh, too.

So all right, so how are Joe siruji just

Oh, yeah.

No, it's an Oshkosh.

No, John, did you hear that?

OK, I'm just.

He's got the best Oshkosh.

He's got the best chocolate down here.

Oshkosh.

No, I would not.

No, I'm not going

to.

I'm not going to bite the handed feed.

I know Joe.

Don't get the sponsors.

Joe's really good to

me.

So anyway, what else?

Oh my gosh.

Can I tell you what I did this week already?

Tell us what you did already, Pat.

I was on Monday afternoon.

I was out with Cruz and Tiki's Oshkosh.

It's a little Tiki boat.

John Maino

Yeah, we had them

on last summer here.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, we had this on.

So captain Joe and Tammy I've known them literally the whole time I've been an Oshkosh

Captain Joe, when I moved here 30 years ago was the captain of the Pioneer Princess.

I remember the Pioneer Princess, absolutely.

Young Joe was the captain.

I remember

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going on there with the Wisconsin team competition, whatever it

was, all the candidates.

Yes, they

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used to come every year.

Yes.

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So I was a featured speaker and one of the judges at their luncheon.

What do you think

about that?

It's kind of interesting.

Interesting

choice.

Inspiring John.

So Captain Joe invited us to come out and we took a little crew out there, the boat

holds six people for the cruise.

Joe does a two hour cruise.

And so we went out and filmed an episode of why I love Oshkosh on Monday afternoon.

It was stunning.

It was 65 out on the water.

And so what I wanted to share with with the community today is the cruise and Tiki's Oshkosh, they're like wide open for bookings in May.

Right.

Right.

Now they start getting busy in June and July.

Kathryn Lake

But if

you ever are looking for a fun thing to do and you've got

Six people.

It's like it's 300 bucks.

Kathryn Lake

Right.

For

the two hours.

And the way they do it is you meet them at the Fox River Brewery right on the Fox River.

Sure.

You can have a beverage there or get a snack.

You bring your own beverages out under the tea.

Oh, nice.

Super fun.

And then they take you for a half an hour down the river for sightseeing.

And then you come back up, you get off, maybe hit the restroom.

whatever you need to do, and then you take another hour and you go toward the Butamore Bridge, which is really cool.

You know, usually you only see that if you're a fisherman or something.

And like you were talking about, you see the bridge from the water.

It's just, anyway, I cannot recommend it highly.

Not only that,

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but Green Bay itself, and the only time I've experienced it is on fishing trips or maybe one time with the old Foxy lady.

type thing.

But at night, the skyline of Green Bay is really cool, but you don't really see it

unless you're on the water.

It's too bad that some people live on the water and never see their city from the water, because that's an awesome view.

And when you drive over, you just have a different respect for it, a different look at

it.

We

use the river.

Quite

a bit, but that's yeah, it is.

And it's a lot of fun.

I

thought that was really cool when he said you could bring your own beverages and food.

And that was

yeah, it keeps it simple and super fun.

The neat thing about the Tiki is it's small enough so that when the fishing boats and the big boats go by, you get some amazing swell action.

And it was just I mean, we had two hours of nonstop fun.

John Maino

That sounds great.

I'd love to try that.

Yeah.

So, oh, my gosh, you just said the magic word.

Yeah.

Let's get John on cruise and Tiki's with Captain Joe.

Let's do it.

There are life preservers.

Yes, Coast Guard, Coast Guard required.

They do.

Thank you.

Oh my gosh.

What if we could, oh, what if we could go out like for a morning cruise?

Oh, that would be fun.

I mean,

that would be beautiful.

That would be phenomenal.

That probably wouldn't be as busy either.

Man, that sun coming up over the water right here this

morning was spectacular.

But look at all the fishing out here.

I mean,

Jeff, this boat, this river is busy all the time.

The fish are literally jumping out of the Fox River here in Oshkosh.

Okay, now you're lying, but go ahead.

Go ahead.

You know when you have

John Maino

to

corral

John Maino

him back in a little bit.

What else you got going

on here, Oshkosh?

Your size is a little bit of everything.

Okay, you guys are going to flip when you hear this.

Okay.

I am going in to do a one.

John Maino

No, no, no.

I know what I wanted to say to you first.

Tell me.

Congratulations to one of your, one of Todd's favorite places for being correct me from Ryan.

Dive bar of the country for the

years, because that current garage bar.

Pete's, Pete's.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean

that

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got

national news.

He did.

That's awesome.

Pete just got his letter yesterday from our congressman congratulating

him on his- Glenn, Glenn

growthman, Glenn growthman.

I

mean, that

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was a national story

I saw.

It was.

Yeah,

boy, now he's got a letter from Glenn.

Yeah, he's got a letter.

He's going to frame it up, put it in the bar.

You get one for the former mayor of Green Bay?

I'm sure your mayor sent you one.

But that is quite an honor because we make fun of guy bars and yet this guy's

Parlayed

that into like, you know what this huge attraction, especially here in Wisconsin because we've embraced it.

It's like a cultural touchstone for the rest of America to come and get a glimpse into being a Wisconsinite.

John Maino

Exactly.

That's cool.

That was very aggressive.

Anyway, so we're taking it to the next level.

I'm doing a one day

John Maino

interrupt.

I interrupted.

John, John, you're going to want to hear this.

I'm going to make brats with Ruben.

at Wagner Market.

Oh,

John Maino

really?

Yes.

Oh, Ruben Hernandez.

He doesn't just make brats.

He events them.

John Maino

I know.

He's

a creator.

He's an artist.

Oh,

yeah.

So

John Maino

Jim doesn't like them.

The trip.

The trip.

Is it a tripe?

No, it's a tripe.

Tripe.

Oh, it's got... A broth's

tripe.

Tripes.

No, no, no.

Not the stomach.

Not tripe.

It's called tripe, and it's a sausage, but it has sauerkraut in the sausage.

Built into it.

And it's called tripe.

Okay.

And I like sauerkraut on a broth, but I don't like... It was dry or something.

I just did... Maybe I got a bad one.

But I only had one in my life.

I don't know.

And you didn't get it

from

there.

This was someplace

else.

Oh, no, no,

no, no, no.

This is probably Illinois.

I'll try one of yours.

But yeah.

So I so I've been eating a few brats so far.

I've done the teriyaki pineapple brats, which is kind of amazing.

I bet the mac and cheese brought.

John Maino

Nice.

The all time favorite, though.

Number one, I think the beer and cheese brought.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Unbelievable.

So I'm going in, I think it's next Wednesday.

I'm going into the little room in the middle of the Wagner Market, right?

It's like a little sanitary operating room in there.

And they're gonna show me how you put the stuff in and the sausage.

Like I am gonna literally be making the sausage.

And that's gonna be one of your

shows.

That's gonna be one of

our shows.

Awesome.

I want to say this, because nothing's better than on a Saturday afternoon or a Sunday and you're like, you know what, I want to grill out.

Do you drive down?

to Main Street, right?

You stop in, you grab whatever you're going to throw on the grill, brats, steaks or whatever.

Side salads, you want, you know, some coleslaw, you want, they've got it all right there.

It's just, it's actually

quite incredible.

And Todd, you failed to mention the 400 different kinds of beer in 400 kinds.

There's so much beer in there, like it's

It's pretty fun, John.

You guys don't do anything.

John Maino

No,

they don't.

They don't.

You do it right.

Wow.

Yeah.

So we've been doing brats.

I also did a weekend internship with Sunken Paddle Ciderworks.

I love them, too.

These are two young guys.

Oh, my God, we should get them in here because they're like, remember Ian from Fifth Ward?

Yeah, that was great.

These are another cut from the same cloth.

But crazier.

Oh my gosh, put crazier.

These guys are a little crazy.

Yeah.

All right.

We'll take them there.

So they make they make cider and it's they call it like proper cider.

Like people from Europe would call it proper cider.

What's happened in America is the cider that's in the cans in the stores.

Yeah, super sweet.

Yeah, these guys

make a dry cider.

It's almost like a like a Pinot Grigio.

Some of it

is like

a wine and my wife, Dawn, who doesn't like a lot of stuff.

loves the cider.

John Maino

He's pointing for

the word.

Doesn't like us.

Go

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ahead.

All

right, well, that's cool.

Is that apple cider?

No.

So it's apple cider.

Is that

alcohol?

Is there alcohol?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

5% alcohol.

And they've got a cider pressing.

It's called an urban nano cidery.

It's like a little tiny cidery.

The bar is like in a garage about as big as our studio here.

There's like 10 chairs in there.

And you're literally like,

in the cidery, all the equipment's there in the vats.

Where is

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it?

I'd love to

see it.

Right over here.

It's on

17th Street.

Oh, gosh, it's so cool.

There's a

couple of breweries who added that product line.

John Maino

Yes.

But is there like, OK, so there are different types of cider?

Do they have what you come there?

Here's the

John Maino

cider.

No, no.

So they have like 10 different kinds.

And they have made some some Apple brandy that's available.

And now.

They're taking their cider to the next level with cider cocktails.

OK.

John Maino

Really?

And correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a lot of things about cider that's good for you, I guess, for your heart.

Oh, my gosh.

Their base cider has 900 heirloom apple varieties in it.

It's like elixir of life.

She's OK.

We got 30 seconds.

And we'll come back to

John Maino

elixir of life.

Wow.

John Maino

We'll be back

with the

John Maino

elixir

of

John Maino

life.

That's

his new name, elixir of life.

You're

Kathryn Lake

listening to Civic Media.

Find the latest news, information and archives of all your favorite shows on the Civic Media website, civicmedia.us.

John Maino

coming your way from WSS Studios in Oshkosh, and of course WGBW in Green Bay.

We're here with Pat Tracy, the, what do we call him?

The Elixir?

Elixir of life.

Elixir of life.

That's correct.

Well, I've discovered proper cider at Sunken Paddle Ciderworks.

John Maino

That sounds

great.

And don't forget, Don,

text

it in.

Free samples.

Free samples at Sunken Paddle.

So the fun of the cider, the cidery is, is that

It's a different kind of cider than you've probably ever had.

You know, it's it's.

Is that a word?

Cidery.

Cidery.

It's

called a Cidery.

It's called a Cidery.

That was part of our promotion.

The Top Craft picks.

Yeah.

And so this like you would see this on the West Coast.

Like this is super Uber hipster, right?

West Coast, Cidery, Urban Nano.

But I love it.

Doug and Spencer are so much fun at the Cidery.

They're it's basically like like a garage.

It's in a neighborhood.

and you come in, you get free samples.

They've got 10 or 12 different flavors of cider, all amazing and all local.

So they'll get their apples and then they get raspberries from like somebody over by a Monomony Park has raspberries in their backyard.

So they get a couple bushels of them, throw them in the apples and now they've got raspberry tea cider.

That's Don's favorite.

John Maino

So does the OK.

Does the cider ferment itself or is it alcohol infused?

How does that work?

No,

it ferments itself.

Okay.

They ferment the cider.

Okay.

Yep.

Yep.

Okay.

So next time you guys are here, we're bringing cider.

Maybe we can get even Doug and Spencer

out here.

That'd be

great.

That'd be fantastic because it's it's really fun.

So we have now taken to going over so they're only open.

You should be aware Fridays and Saturdays because these guys have day jobs.

our role as Wisconsinites is to buy so much of their cider that they can eventually leave their day jobs.

John Maino

You know, we can't figure out right.

And now we can't now we know now now I think I've figured certain things out.

Why Todd will get up at three o'clock in the morning and drive an hour to go to work in Green Bay and drive home.

And the reason he doesn't want to leave Oshkosh.

Because I think he's got his stuff and grounds down here because every every little place you mentioned

something.

John Maino

I've been here.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Friday.

I was there.

Yeah.

We have never talked about a place that Todd has not.

John Maino

I don't care what you mentioned.

Oh, yeah.

They got this one craft beer that I really like.

Yeah.

Did you grow up in Ashkash, Todd?

South of town.

OK.

Yep.

But I've lived here several times, you know.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

I just I like it here.

I really, really do.

I'm very proud of this town.

I like where we're at as far as the progressive nature of it, the young people doing great things, like all the businesses we talk about, right?

We're kind of forward thinking down here.

And we're not a big city, but we have some of the things that the cities have and the events.

I mean, how you listen, if you're ever bored in this city,

you're nuts.

You're nuts.

Hey, so if I can do a quick public service announcement, the skies over Oshkosh next week will be filled with 100 small airplanes as the flying schools, the universities across the U.S.

that offer degrees in aviation.

So there's like 30 of them.

If you want to be an airport director or a commercial airline pilot, you typically go.

go to an aviation.

You know, we have our

traffic control.

Maybe a few jobs in Newark right now.

Yeah,

John Maino

right.

But our last year, we had a kid on a young person.

I shouldn't say kid.

I'm

John Maino

also from Middle Tennessee State, where their booth real close

to

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where

Jim and

John Maino

I were.

Yes.

And talking about that, it's like, who would think Middle Tennessee State is huge for aerodynamics?

It's huge.

So all.

So we've got a hundred students competing in their annual safe con.

and they will fly their airplanes, which are like little Cessna's and

John Maino

Piper's.

They will all descend on Oshkosh starting on the 12th, right?

So next week, and they'll be flying around doing maneuvers and testing for their college competition.

Yeah, IDAA.

So it's not open to the public, but if we're in Oshkosh, we're going to see a lot of aerial activity.

Wow, that's really cool.

That's very cool.

Yes, that's nice to use that.

facility too for other

oh yeah

like that's just oh

yeah

business we were talking earlier about there's some facilities in Green Bay that we could maybe leverage a little bit more

yes you

guys are smart

with the

waterfront with the waterfront and yeah

hey let's open let's put a restaurant Lambo Field Monday through Friday

John Maino

we're trying to bring uh

we're trying

John Maino

to bring um I can't think of the banana guys

oh

John Maino

man

Savannah banana

we're going to bring them to play a minor league teams or who do they play themselves kind of they're a little bit harmful to others.

Yes, they have their own opponents that travel with

them.

And they are funny and they are entertaining.

They're so huge.

Two hours and yes, they're.

Oh my god.

But.

They go on 60 minutes, and it's like, oh, let's bring these guys here.

How many other people said that, right?

I wish we would have got them.

John Maino

Right.

So-and-so,

so-and-so.

Did they want us to pay them to bring them here?

John Maino

Why

would I bankroll those

John Maino

guys?

They're unbelievable.

They

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will.

Yes.

And the ladies love them, like it's weird.

Maybe we could lure them here with a cider sponsor.

There you go.

I like it.

I like

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it.

Pat, you got two minutes.

Wrap it up, buddy.

Everything good about Oshkosh.

Why I love Oshkosh.

It's another beautiful weekend in Oshkosh here with the tulips blooming at the Payne Arts Center and Gardens.

We're going to be out there with mom taking pictures this weekend, having brunch, strolling down Main Street.

You got those really

John Maino

good cannolis on the menu any place here?

Oh, at Fox River Brewery.

Yes, they've got an amazing Mother's Day buffet over there.

Oh, we're, see, I don't have time to stop there because we

have to be in Oshkosh.

We're planting trees.

Not Oshkosh.

We're not Oshkosh.

Are you planting trees today?

Yep.

It's called the orchard.

I forgot what it's called.

Oh my gosh.

Apple Blossom.

Apple Blossom.

Along the trail.

It's beautiful.

They plant trees every year.

And Johnny and I did that last year.

We're going to go do that today.

So we have to scoot out of here.

But

there are also cannolis

next time.

So we're going to make plants for cider.

Yes.

Not even a question.

Brats.

Yes.

Yes.

We got a big summer here.

I still haven't had

John Maino

your candy.

Oh, the candy?

Huge.

Yeah.

We got

to get them to huge.

We didn't want to wait in

line.

That was

our fault.

We're getting a backlog of Oshkosh Artisan Eats to feed John.

John Maino

Yes.

Yes.

And we want to get George Thoreau good on the show

here when he

John Maino

plays Oshkosh.

Whoa.

Oh my gosh.

I guess I'll be busy over the next several weeks.

You got to work that.

Um, I mean, it's on a Thursday night, right?

Yeah, we got to sync up calendars.

All right.

We will

be so cool.

We could just he stays in the hotel right across the street.

Yeah,

just goes bang

on his

door.

I love that.

George.

I can sing

all

your songs.

One

John Maino

beer.

Yes,

John Maino

I can sing all your songs.

Tracy.

Thank you, my brother.

Love you guys.

Thank you for the

John Maino

hospitality and Oshkosh.

We love you down here.

John Maino

You're the man.

All right.

We're out of time.

Tomorrow, we'll continue to hand out our $25 gift certificate for the best slogan.

You can get in on this, Pat.

Tagline.

Mine on the mare.

That's it.

Fill in the blank.

So fill in the blank, $25.

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