Focus on Freedom & Pat Tracey

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Focus on Freedom & Pat Tracey

Maino and the Mayor · Thu Apr 10, 2025

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios and featuring TV and radio broadcast veteran John Minow along with the City of Green Bay's longest-serving mayor Jim Schmidt.

This is Minow and the Mayor.

And here are your hosts, John Minow and Jim Schmidt.

John Maino

a beautiful morning high in the upper 40s coming up today.

Mostly cloudy with showers Brewers coming on today.

135 and W I S S taken on the Rockies.

Once again coming off that 17 to two win last night.

Special thanks to Josh Kuhn Northwestern Mutual Autism acceptance month man with some interesting things he had to say things again.

We just don't know if our heads are in the sand sometimes with things were just not aware of in the community.

Well when I said to him was I think an important message that he gave was.

Don't be embarrassed if you don't have a plan, right?

And if you ever feel like you are, it's too late that you're kind of screwed.

Maybe just make that phone call.

And it was nice to have that message from him today.

Do you think it's too late for me?

Yep.

Just saying, I think it probably is.

Just cut the chase odor dancer on

that one.

I think you have to have an income if

you have

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a

flat.

But

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I

think this is Josh Kuhn.

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Hey, Josh Minow.

Hey, you know what you said?

It's never

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too late.

Well, yeah.

Boy, I am so busy.

But not to scare people.

But what I think he if you have someone who may have a disability, it's going to cost more than.

Yep.

And it

was amazing.

It's a lot.

The numbers and I

think you need to go see somebody.

What did he say?

Two million million over

over.

Yeah.

Two million.

Yeah.

Two million

over what it would cost with eye opening.

Incredible.

So you need

it.

Expensive enough for racing.

It's going to be one point seven eight million with, you know, a kid that's going to be a normal kid.

You have to factor that with, you know, double it or maybe even triple it.

You got to go see somebody and say, look, help me.

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So in Wagner fifth Ward brewery, he was great and our next guest is already trying to sneak out one of the beers Wow nice job getting your guests here Todd.

Yeah, yeah,

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Marla Kopecki penny focus on freedom.

Good morning.

Good morning Thank you for having me.

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Oh man.

Just talking to you during our break here was fascinating So I'm just gonna shut up and let you go Jim.

Give her a proper introduction

Yes, you know, yes, we did talk to you before we came on the air and focus on freedom

offers one-on-one support for individuals with diverse abilities in home and community.

And I think this is what this next sentence provide by growing team and carefully selecting trainers.

And this is, you know, you kind of lived where they are.

So

tell us about, I mean, that's a broad statement, you know, focus on freedom.

But what is it?

So it's really been crafted over time and been an evolution of my career in the profession from starting out as a in-home.

autism therapy, ABA therapy, into teaching, into supporting families through my business with daily living skills.

And, and really noticing that a lot of times we focus on the client and miss the caregiver part.

And that's really now the evolution that we're coming to as we support not only the client.

but the family.

And when we're looking for trainers and staff, we're really looking for that right fit and the person who has that passion and that desire to want to help others.

It's got to

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be those two things, passion, desire versus just collecting a paycheck.

Critical.

Yes.

Well, and I think there's a lot of people altered with the passion.

I want to just say that, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's a match.

Correct.

That is a hundred percent true.

In fact, um, and this is kind of a interesting story.

I was hiring a paraprofessional and, um, this was many years ago and she asked me one time, she goes, how did you decide on me?

And she goes, I'm sure there were other more like qualified or there were more this or there were more that.

And I said, but I'm looking for the fit that fits the dynamic of who we are.

I'm looking for a fit that fits the family dynamic.

I'm looking for a fit that fits this.

So it's really about finding the right fit because when you find the right fit, people are gonna stay.

because they feel connected.

You're a part of their family.

It's very vulnerable for a family, for someone to come into their home, and you're seeing their life day in and day out.

And it's also vulnerable for the trainer when they're going into the home and the families, they're watching them work, right?

So when you think about that, it's a real state of vulnerability on both sides.

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And I just want to read it because this is part of your mission sandwiches that because what you're saying is a mirror of this, the work is per.

for me.

I've lived through long meltdowns.

I've sat with families through some of their hardest moments.

I know what it's like to feel overwhelmed and still have to show up.

That's why everything I do is built around real life, not perfect plans or quick fixes, but practical, compassionate tools that help people grow together.

Boy, that says it all.

That's 100% it.

I mean, I've lived it as a teacher.

You have the amazing years and and I've lived it in this world.

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What kind of teaching did

you do?

I did.

I started out K2 with significant needs and then I rolled into

It's like an autism evaluator at the time our district had one of those positions.

So I did that for three years, which then rolled into a program support teacher, supporting teachers, which I didn't really love what they call LEA, which is a representative.

Exactly.

I can

tell by your look.

Exactly, which is a part of what I do.

Clarify the lingo.

So the le is the person.

It's the legal representative because an education plan for special education is a legally binding document.

So you need to have a legal representative there.

And so a part of the program support teacher role was that piece.

And I just really that wasn't for me.

I wanted to be more hands on supporting teachers, supporting kids.

And I went back in the classroom in a middle school setting, which I absolutely loved until I left in 2023.

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That's the hardest job there is in education.

Let's be honest.

Why did you take the hardest job there is in education?

The most challenging job.

This is going to sound really strange.

And it took me a really long time to realize it.

And that same para that I was talking about before kind of had to beat me over the head with it for lack of a better word.

And she said, Marla, you have a gift and you see what everybody can do.

and that's what you push them towards.

And when I first met you, she goes, I thought you were so mean, but I realized I was looking at it like a parent, and you were looking at the kids going, but I know you can do this, and I want you to try, and you're gonna try again, and you're gonna try again, and if you fail, it's okay, I will help you, but I need you to try first.

And she goes, and as I watched you over the course of those months, she goes, I saw how much you love the kids, the kids love you, but you have an expectation.

of everyone being involved and of everybody doing the work.

It's okay if we fail, but we're gonna fail together and we're gonna keep moving forward and that's why you succeed.

Phenomenal.

And I think that's so important that you take your time and find the right person because to find the wrong one and have it not work is, can be perceived as rejection, it can be,

you

know, and that is not good for anyone.

Even people who are healthy, much lesser, don't have challenges.

So I applaud you for that.

And I think you, like you said, I think it's, yeah, I'm sure you lived through some difficult times, but on the other hand, you picked.

the best person so you know what I mean I mean

yeah and that's a natural part of of owning a company like this is not always spot on and I have some amazing lead trainers who now we do like the interviews together because obviously other perspectives more minds coming together makes it an even better success and a better fit

Um, and, and we talk about all of that.

And who do we think which client this person would work for?

And do they have an opening at this point?

Or, you know, so we look at all of those pieces and parts because it really is, we're putting quality together, not just finding like a

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worker,

a worker.

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Let me just read once again for your mission statement here.

Focus on freedom, direct services for individuals and families.

We offer one-on-one support for individuals with diverse abilities in the home and community provided by a growing team of carefully selected trainers.

We don't match just anyone with a client.

We look for the right fit so that trust consistency and connection can lead to real lasting growth.

We currently have two part-time leads and 15 part-time trainers supporting families.

We continue to grow with intention, not speed.

We're always looking for the right people who align with our core values of ability, purpose, and love.

That's awesome.

So there's no shortage of clients.

Correct.

In the state of Wisconsin.

I saw a touch on the commerce.

You can tell me, talk about whatever you want.

It's my understanding that the state of Wisconsin is pretty good when it comes to autism assistance.

Not just autism, but...

children with diverse abilities.

Our state is phenomenal.

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You said diverse abilities.

You did not say disabilities.

Am I right?

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That was very intentional.

Please expound on that.

Because I've never heard that before and I love it.

I'm glad you love it.

So again, to the core of who I am.

This is where it comes from, and I have received a little bit of a backlash on it.

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On that?

And here's why, and I understand why.

I understand why.

So, in working in all the years, a lot of things happen, but when a parent hears your child has been diagnosed with, okay, automatically what do people do?

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Feel sorry for him.

Yeah.

What did my expectation just

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do?

Right, exactly.

when I was teaching and it's not that people had like have this about them.

It's just, they don't know and you don't know what you don't know.

So you can't do better until you know better.

I believe that very strongly in who I, in everything I do and who I am.

And a lot of people, it baby talk.

I'm going to give you a hard example, baby talk.

Like when I am working with a client or a student and they have more of a significant need immediately, what do we do?

Oh, hi.

Hey, how are you?

Oh, it's so good to see you.

Do you notice the tone difference?

And guess what?

In middle school, do you think they want that?

Absolutely not.

So I used to say we always taught the finest things because we taught real language too.

And we talked to all of our students, our clients, and commensurate with their age.

So that's a foundation of who I am and so I started really the term disability Never sat well with me because it really is the base of the term is what can't you do?

Right and so this is gonna be like a crazy analogy, but it is one I love basketball and the Chicago Bulls

my favorite team of all time.

Beep, beep, beep, back it up.

Back it up.

Bucks, what?

I'm sorry.

Hey, you cannot argue with Michael.

Look at the guy.

Thank you for

being here.

Thanks for

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coming in.

Let's go back.

Pat Trace, let's talk some more

beer.

Right, but with that, I can't levitate like that man can.

I can't shoot a ball like that, but I guarantee you he can't do what I do either.

Does that mean?

by the core definition, right?

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You're less than him in some way.

Exactly.

No, we're just, we all, everyone has abilities.

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It's phenomenal.

We're going to keep you around.

Marla Kapitsky, Penny, focus on freedom.

This is great stuff.

And we could do about three hours, just keep going on.

And I like how we were talking to her and you just flipped.

We said, no, my no.

She's my spirit,

Adam.

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Welcome to the Mayor coming your way from WISS downtown Oshkosh in a beautiful morning.

We're with Marla Kopetsky, panty focus on freedom.

Fascinating stuff.

Just great, great stuff.

Thank

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you.

Okay, so we're talking

to your business, which is a niche business.

You're training people to work with people who need help, especially in the

area

of caregiving and in the field of autism.

But just before we move on, I want to just talk about the state of Wisconsin where we live.

And you think we get criticized a lot as

a

state and I think we have a lot of work to do but talk about how our state does out of the 50 states and when it comes to supporting people with what did you call it?

Diverse abilities talking as opposed

to disabilities.

Okay all the abilities we all have yes

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and

Are you proud that I picked up on that?

Yeah,

I am.

I was very

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impressed.

Thank you.

I was very impressed.

It was a phenomenal question.

And when I was nervous to answer, because I know how that can

ruffle.

All right.

So yeah, I can attest to that.

I worked as an educational consultant for a curriculum platform where I would deliver professional development part-time when I had left teaching in 2023.

So I worked with people from all over the country and in different different areas.

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Are you homegrown here?

Meet, yeah, I'm from Hilbert.

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Hilbert?

You're a wolf.

Oh, I'm a wolf.

You bet.

During all those championship years, you bet.

With

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Coach Moreau?

You

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bet.

Oh, man, good days.

Yes, yes, those were good days.

But anyway, back to the states.

Everyone who was starting a business, they would connect with me and they would say, how did you find support and funding?

And I said, well, honestly, our state has funds set aside.

where they support and offer supplements and things like that to support our individuals with diverse abilities.

I said, I would try to connect with your state.

In our state, it's the CLTS program, which is the Children's Long Term Support Waiver.

And I said, check it to see if your state, it's probably gonna be called something different, has something like that.

And the person actually, this person was in Florida and she goes, yeah, we don't.

really have those types of resources and what we do have is very, very limited.

And so I just know in talking with other people, there are states out there that do have those types of supports, but here in Wisconsin, we offer a lot of supports that a lot of other places don't.

Do we have room to grow?

Is it perfect?

Yeah, the Joint Finance Committee held their thing at Kimberley and, you know, nine hours of testimony.

I just think that state needs a shout out.

I mean, people complain a lot about Wisconsin.

I think we're doing a pretty good job on a lot of things.

We could do better on a lot of things, but

okay, I just want to hear that from

you.

So what are you looking for in terms of volunteers in terms of, like you said, the client need isn't that big because people have contacted you saying, look, I need some help from Focus on

Freedom.

Yep.

So I usually get two requests.

It's either for the in-home servicing or for the caregiver support.

So the caregiver piece, because there are so many wait lists, six to 12 months, two years.

Wow.

You know, there are new companies starting.

So if you're the first one at the door, yeah, you're going to receive support services.

Companies that have been around a little longer.

There's usually a 612 to year.

How do you

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recruit people to your workers?

Is there do you go to schools or

any places?

I

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like pre-nursing students

or anything.

You know, nope, it's all of those and I really rely on my Trainers who are because let's be real

I'm not going to say my age out loud, but I am not social media savvy.

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I broadcast the Hilbert Wolfe State Championship game from Camp Randall in 92.

Hey, my brother's played in that game.

There you go.

But yeah, so I really utilize a lot of my trainers, their background, their knowledge on how to recruit people in that age range because

They're over 20 years different in my age range and how I think in the terminology that's hot and what I understand, right?

That's how you recruit.

That's how you find employees, and then you find the people that connect.

It still ultimately comes down to word of mouth.

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Okay, you seem a very, how should I put, perceptive, I don't think, let me just put this the other way, because this is something Jim and I have, I think that we, the one thing in the world we agree on.

We both have really good BS meters.

And I think if I came in to do a job in a review, your BS meter would be.

She already knew when she walked in there.

I can't wait till this is over.

But I knew I'd be entertained.

So there is that factor.

You're really looking for the person and then you'll teach him the skills.

100%.

If you have a passion, a care, a desire, and that's really it, I can help foster and teach.

My trainers can help foster and teach.

You know, there's, there's the, what we call the, I do, we do it together, you do model.

And that's how we train our trainers, which is the fundamentals of teaching.

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And I hope they understand like, well, Jim's mom is 92, but she's fine.

I mean, she still sings on stage basically and stuff.

But my mom was disabled and she, I could tell you,

years that were better than other years because of her caregiver.

It made that big of an impact on her life.

Oh, 100%.

Well, and the thing is, is when I'm teaching you, because this would happen a lot with not only my trainers, but Paris, they'll be like, I'm doing it exactly the way you do it.

And they are.

And I say, here's the key.

You are not me.

I have a different personality than you.

Take the premise of what I'm showing you, but you have to make it your own.

And when you do that, that's what the success is.

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That's when it's genuine.

That's awesome.

Great stuff.

If somebody's out there listening and they're saying, this may be for me, what's the best way to contact you to get involved?

Check out my website, focusonfreedom.org, and you'll notice my phone, my email address.

Contact me or Instagram, all those kind of things.

That's where I was going next.

Yeah, Facebook and Instagram.

He is hip.

Wow, I

can't.

Come on, you're with

us.

Yeah.

It's awesome.

I'm not

done yet, Jim.

I'm not done yet,

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Jim.

What about TikTok?

That is the platform I am working to get on, but I'm not there yet.

That's what I was just talking to my trainers

about.

Literally at my employee meeting this past Sunday that we had, I said, guys, I know that's what I need to be doing, but like...

Just don't have the bandwidth to be able to figure out You

just need to be able to dance on tiktok and then you'll be

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fine

plug for

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how people can reach you

Focus on freedom dot org

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phenomenal take it beautiful.

I hope you get some great candidates out of this

Like

I said with my mom and

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everything that made such a difference in her life and it was such an important part of her life So thanks for you and I guarantee you knowing you

You'd hire somebody.

If you met her, you'd hire somebody that would take care of Josephine and make her really happy.

So thanks so much.

It's great

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stuff.

Marla Capecchi, Penny, focus on freedom.

Go Wolves.

Go Wolves.

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All right.

We'll be back with Pat Tracy after this.

guys.

That's a downtown Oshkosh.

We love being down here.

Such a great downtown.

Beautiful morning.

Finally some nice weather down here.

Upper 40s coming up today.

And it is National Gulfer Day, which is apropos brewers that actually don't colorado today.

We've had some phenomenal guests here.

Steve Elias, an international youth sailing of Oshkosh in Wenger.

Fifth Ward Brewing Company, Croft Top.

I am a caregiver.

The right quote fit is so important.

Janice.

Janice, thank you very much for what you're doing.

Jim, I'm going to give you the honor.

And it is distinct honor of introducing

our next

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guest.

I speak before I do that.

I just just another show to that Steve with with that that sailing.

That's unbelievable what they have done here in Oshkosh.

It's the largest in in the country in the country.

And what he teaches these young kids for fourth, fifth grade.

And I just need to open that up in Green Bay.

I don't know.

12 years ago.

I remember coming to the office and so that that's a big thing there But they were all great guests.

Thank you Todd for doing that.

So every Community every city has the cheerleader and I was reading an article one time and it they had the questions of When you go to a city and one of the questions is you know Breweries what's dude, but who runs this city?

And in Oshkosh, I think your name would come to the top.

It is a

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Pat.

There was a long way to get there, Pat, but it's worth it.

Good morning, Northeast Wisconsin.

Pat Tracy, when I think of Oshkosh, I do, I think of you.

Discover Oshkosh and, you know, I don't know, discover Oshkosh, if that's the right name, just promote Oshkosh.

Yes, discover

Oshkosh.

I know it's discover Oshkosh, but you do promote Oshkosh and you got a lot going on.

I'm going to turn it over to you and you're here with your assistant.

Listeners in Radio Land, this is the world premiere of my lovely wife, Don Tracy.

Welcome, Don.

All right, Don.

Good

morning.

We've met you

before,

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though.

Yes.

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Yes,

we've met you.

Oh, that's right.

Well,

yes.

Well, we went

to the spot about a year

ago

right

now.

That's why

it was pretty close.

And so listeners, Don, every time I do the show, Don watches the show on Facebook and then.

Continuously corrects me on all of the things that I say that are, you know, incorrect or completely wrong.

Does she do it in real

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time?

Is

she texting

you?

Oh, yes.

Oh,

yes.

That wasn't breaking news.

She's your wife.

I got the same thing.

You want to see my more shocking if she doesn't do, she

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doesn't text

me during the show and she said something stupid.

And she supports, no, no, no, no, I get, look at this.

It

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supports everything I'm saying.

Don is the reason that we're in Oshkosh.

Don wanted to, we were living in Arizona in the nineties and Don wanted to get back to Wisconsin.

So our children could have a Wisconsin childhood and we found Oshkosh and we've been here for 35 years now.

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All right.

Perfect fit.

Who

do I throw the question to?

What's going on?

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You don't seem like an Arizona guy.

I got to be honest.

You know, I lived in Arizona for six years.

You don't seem like an Arizona guy.

You get too much energy.

John, you should see me with like a July tan.

I mean, I am like subhuman.

He's wearing it now.

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You don't look Nordic

at all.

So we are at an amazing juxtaposition as we kind of close out craft beer week, which has been

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so much fun.

Oh my gosh,

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so much fun.

Thank you.

Thank you for having Ian on here.

I never heard Ian's backstory about all the work they did.

Great.

That's

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the best part about these because it's, you know, it wasn't while I inherited from my great grandfather and we've then my grandma and I take now I'm next.

It's not that they all started these up themselves.

Young people who had the courage to say, yeah, I can

do this.

And it wasn't like, you know, I like beer.

It was like, this guy was a biology major.

And I'm sure he went home and you sure?

And it wasn't overnight.

It took years.

It bought the building.

The

other thing I liked about him, Pat, and you've mentioned this before, but boy, the community support they got from the SBA, from the city, and go talk to 100 people.

What a marching

order that is.

I

mean, right?

Yeah, you're going to learn something.

You talk to 100 people, you're going to learn something.

And plus they meet you.

Right.

And now they know what you're trying to.

So I just think that's why other

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crafters have.

Right.

The ones.

Yeah.

There are

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certain places that would have been too busy for that.

I got no.

No, everybody's been like,

you

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know, teamwork.

You start the bubble, you're going to end up in a bubble.

And, you know, and just to give a shout out to the UWO.

Small business right help center because Zach is a graduate of that right?

If you are a person highly of them out in radio land thinking about starting a business that you WO small business last thing his

was a Maurice who's the But he the other thing I like about him and I don't know where this came from I really ask him but he it was really important to him that he bought a historical building and

Some people don't

have that.

I love

that.

We'll Johnny.

I bought like a year and a half to get it up.

Yeah.

He's like, look, we knew one when they do a couple of things, but one of his tenants was we knew we wanted to buy a historical building.

And he really wanted the address to be on Main Street.

And they

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didn't even have the business.

Yeah.

It's like, let's get the building

and then

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let's do the business.

So,

yeah.

So the fun, the fun fruition of that story was Thursday.

Uh, was the, this past Thursday was the kickoff to craft beer week.

My 34 year old son and his girlfriend came from Minneapolis.

for the weekend and they literally picked this weekend because it was craft beer weekend.

And we walked into Fifth Ward at 4 p.m.

and Zach was right there and handed me the blueberry lime sour as I walked in the door.

Which Todd just drank.

Which Todd just drank.

It is amazing.

Where's Todd?

And is beaming.

He's sleeping under the table now.

I was wondering what that was.

I thought it was my

dog.

I'm driving him home.

Ian and Zach's bar was

Packed at 4 p.m.

on Thursday and everyone one was there to try the blueberry lime sour and all of the other beers and everyone was doing the discover Ashkosh contest where you take a picture of yourself out, you know in the breweries We still have this weekend and then post it to discover Ashkosh website and then you too can win these amazing Limitation hats

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and the amazing stickers.

So you guys congratulate you guys I mean when Todd was talking about this.

I thought was there gonna be enough interesting.

It's like

Holy cats.

Has there been the interest?

Oh my gosh.

Yes.

So we were out all weekend showing the kids around.

We met so many interesting people from all over northeast Wisconsin because I'm out, you know, talking to people.

Hey, why'd you come here?

I don't think I found anybody from Oshkosh.

You know, they were from Medina in Dorn County in Fond du Lac and they were out and just enjoying the, enjoying the town.

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And you know, I thought it was kind of cool when Marla would, before she left, she asked you when your next show was going to be on.

I thought that was kind of cool.

Yes.

So speaking of the next show.

If we can, how do you transition from craft beer week to coffee?

You just did.

Thank you.

I believe today.

What's the first year to have after you

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have six

craft beer some night?

Coffee.

We, so our video discover Oshkosh, why I love Oshkosh.

This month is coffee houses.

Okay.

And so I brought you gents, some freshly brewed coffee from New Moon, which is literally a mile from where we sit.

Jim, is that a cup of coffee or what?

Hot.

It's almost too hot to drink.

It's literally right out of the

roaster.

I

love coffee.

So,

you know, we have several coffee shops in Oshkosh and two of them we really focused in on for the video series New Moon, which to me is kind of the the arty, you know, maybe the hipster coffee shop.

All right.

Tonight, if you are a ukulele ukulele player, tonight's Uke night.

At the New Moon, open call, bring your Uke.

New Moon in downtown Oshkosh, 6 to 8 p.m.

and jam out.

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Is there a beer called New Moon at all?

I don't know.

Okay.

Blue Moon.

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Well, no, I know, but the reason I say this, when me and my dad just brings back such great memories, we'd go brook trout fishing out this tiny, tiny little backwards town in the UP, and they had one beer or one bar cinder block with, okay, it's called the New Moon.

Used to be the blue moon and then it got burnt down.

It's the new moon and I would love to it's only it's the only time I've ever almost saw my dad getting a fight with somebody like a regular fight Oh boy or a pool game, but whatever But I would just love to walk in there sometime next time I go up there fishing I walk in with a six pack of new moon beer and put it on their counter They would go crazy.

They would

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yeah.

Yes,

that is great coffee.

I should be there.

I got

That is great coffee That is new moon and I should be there cuz I do I play the ukulele and I somewhere over the rainbow

I

Will say this you guys what dad doesn't play the ukulele somewhere over the rain I

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mean

Quick pull, quick pull.

I mean, come on.

I think it's like the

musical instrument.

Where do you buy a

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ukulele from?

The music

store.

High music store.

That's not, they're like, they're like a hundred bars.

Check in to High Music Folks.

We have locations in Green Bay, Appleton

and

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Oshkosh.

You

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know,

you

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just started, you just sounded like the guy from the exclusive company.

But

yeah, you know, that's big guy.

The guy in white had died.

You know, the big guy made that

very.

Yeah.

Don

Ho.

No, no, no, no.

It was the, yeah, the guy who's saying.

Somewhere in the rainbow.

Somewhere over the rainbow.

Yes.

If you had kids at that time or daughter, tiny Tim.

No,

no.

You know, the guy who's like 450.

Yes.

But it

wasn't Don Ho.

No,

no, no.

He was three times the size of Don Ho.

Anyway, he's saying somewhere over the rainbow ukulele.

Everybody bought a ukulele on that song.

Everybody is Israel is Israel was

his name.

Right.

Oh, oh, Israel.

Right.

Oh, yeah.

I didn't know that he passed.

Oh,

that's sad.

Oh, OK.

So we brought Don and I that song will be played 20 times tonight.

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Oh, yeah.

Six to eight PM coffee.

I'll put money on that.

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Why tonight?

What do you mean tonight?

It's you at the you just get here.

It's the uke jam John Luke jam.

I love you.

I clearly that's three two one

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you jam Okay, I'm gonna have another cannoli because that you got another

one these you okay

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put

up another one of

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those beers I put out the request last week about cannolis you deliver

so

For listeners, just to refresh your memory last week, John said, hey, how about those cannolis?

Pat stated incorrectly that the cannoli was a special restaurant week item only.

Don texted in Facebook and said, no, the cannoli is now part of the regular menu.

And then she forced me.

when I got home to call Jay Supley

at

Fox River Brewing

Company and say, guys,

Jay, I need some cannolis because I'm going over to the show on Thursday.

And Jay also gave me their amazing.

Chocolate cheesecake that is crazy.

Yeah, I believe

that's made with the huge.

Yes, huge

chocolate stout.

Yes.

And we also brought a six pack of huge chocolate stout for you to enjoy with the cannolis and I'm going to my mom's after this.

I will take that.

I'm not stout, but I'll take that.

You look at mom.

Mom,

this is coming to you.

That's right.

I stopped at at Supplies and got that for you.

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Wow.

Excellent.

That surprises me.

What that that you wouldn't tell you made it.

She does listen to the show.

She does listen to the show.

I mean, I got to be honest.

She does listen.

I don't see Jim just showing up with this chocolate cheesecake like I made this.

Look at this.

I know.

It's got like six layers.

Yeah.

No.

OK.

That is great.

All right.

Cool.

So tonight that's big deal.

Big deal.

Big deal.

But the other thing that we that we've got to celebrate is.

the Pete's Garage Bar Dive Bar win.

Oh, they won!

Number one dive bar in the year.

Pete's Garage Bar.

Oshkosh, where you part of them?

Yes.

Won the March Madness Bracket Dive Bar Championship.

That's awesome.

And they're right here in Oshkosh on Oregon Street, and they will be celebrating at Pete's tonight.

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All right.

That is so cool.

It's on Oregon Street?

Yes, it's on Oregon Street.

I have not taken you guys there because, to be honest,

It's like taking a genie, taking the cork out of the genie bottle over there because I'd

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keep going back.

It's it's a garage themed dive bar.

I've

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got to go to I've got to see this.

You would love

it.

Yeah.

You got to see it.

Yes.

You'll be so at home.

You'll probably throw your wrenches out and start fixing something right on the bar.

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Awesome.

Fantastic.

Love it.

Got to be there.

I know it's Todd speaks very highly

of

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us.

Yeah, this is cool.

Good stuff.

Now, one other quick thing, we're going to send a quick break here for it, but Pat, all the different things, I'm going to ask you, you know, lady, all the different things you got going on your head.

Do you have somebody to keep them all straight, like maybe this person?

I try.

Because he's so all

over the place.

He is.

He's so easy

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to do.

Yeah.

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Look in the mirror.

I know look in the mirror.

He's out here and she says

calm presence.

Yes.

We have calendars, you know, we have to.

Yeah.

You know, coordinate our calendars.

You gotta have a manager.

Yeah, people.

She's your handler.

I'm his handler.

She

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does

that.

There you

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go.

Very nice.

You're

doing

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a great job.

Okay, we're gonna sit a quick break.

We'll be back with more Pet and Dawn Tracy.

Discover Oshkosh.

Have a great time down here, downtown Oshkosh.

Back after this.

Downtown Oshkosh, W-I-S-S, have a phenomenal time with the, I don't even want to say the mayor of Oshkosh, I would just say the, what's the better term?

First couple of Oshkosh, I like

that.

I like that Don Tracy.

I typically introduce myself as an Oshkosh ambassador.

There you go, ambassador's nice.

Because who doesn't want to be an ambassador?

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I want to be an ambassador in some country.

Yes, and then the awesome.

That's a good gig.

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Yeah.

I know, right?

I got a couple of texts here.

Woohoo!

With applause is congratulations, Pete's from Nancy.

Another one, congratulations to Pete's from Jennifer.

So

sounds like it's a

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place to meet the ladies, huh, Todd?

All right, Todd spent so much time there.

So, pizzas.

We got another

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one.

Hey, ask Todd when he's going there again.

We'll have another blueberry lemon.

That

was so

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much fun talking about your dog.

Natasha.

And

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finding ghosts.

Oh, I would find ghosts with you anytime, Todd.

Wow.

Okay.

Pete's garage.

It means where the

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magic happens.

Pete's has a couple of things that it's really notable for.

One is the bartenders can be a little salty.

And so I remember the first time I was in there and they've got, you know, their big sign up with all their beers.

And I ask the bartender, hey, what's, you know, what's this craft beer like?

And he looks at me and he looks at the sign.

He goes, there's the sign right there.

Just pick one.

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Wow.

Sounds like that place in Chicago.

What

was that

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place in Chicago

you'd

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go to?

And as part of their stick was how rude they were to you.

Oh, like Ed

DeBeve.

So it's not like that.

But it's almost there.

And for those of you who enjoy some good Facebookery, Pete's Garage does have an awesome social media presence.

Oh, really?

And it's funny.

You think Todd's

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picture pops up in there?

I

mean I'm really trying to stay under the radar when I'm at Pete's because you don't want to like if you ever leave a one-star review then Pete will

No, he'll agree with you and make you a hashtag and make t-shirts about you.

Oh my God.

I love that.

Yes.

Love that.

So what else

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you guys got going on now that spring has possibly sprung here in your great city?

Oh my gosh, it's a big shopping weekend for us here.

It is.

We've got along with the farmers market this weekend at the first one.

No.

We've been having them all winter.

We have a mini arena.

We have the indoor ones.

You still have the indoor ones.

So I'm sorry.

It's an indoor one at the Oshkosh Arena is the Oshkosh Spring Arts and Crafts Show.

OK.

92 will be there at the same time as that.

Nice.

All right.

So we like to do

a little shopping.

I will be there as well.

I'm sure.

Don't be there.

Just look and

see what they have.

I'll be at Fifth Ward.

That's right across the street.

That is the convenience of Fifth Ward and the arena.

And then the only other thing I had was Friday at the Grand is Steam.

Oh, Steve.

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Oh,

wow.

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They're

awesome.

Yes, they are.

That's fun.

They

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were at the Whammy's a couple of years ago or a year ago, actually, I think.

And they performed.

They didn't have their entire because there's was it like 14 people in the.

Yes, it's like huge.

Yes, maybe half that.

And they performed at the Whammy's.

They were fantastic.

Really enjoyed.

They are pros.

Yeah, they are pros.

Steve March Torme is the guy that I know.

I mean, Mel Torme's son.

Right.

The guy's older than me.

He can sing like a bird.

Yeah.

He's been on our show.

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Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

Oh, yeah.

They let Nelson play with them sometimes.

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They're great.

But I'll tell you guys, Saturday morning, if you want to see something fun, Saturday morning at Menominee Park is the Prevea Health, runaway to the bay, 55 mile.

Relay race.

Wow.

John, I'm going to imagine us

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right

in our running shorts

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and my big boot here.

I'm wearing.

Yeah.

Oh, I forgot about the boot.

Is that a relay or is that it's a relay?

OK, so check.

So one way shoes.

I mean, they do all these great events around.

So can we find

54 guys by Friday?

53.

I think that I think the team of it might be 20.

But when I look at it, I don't see anybody with me.

I

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have never heard of that log of a race of any type before.

So you just so you start them on Omni Park.

It's super fun.

because the dog and I will go out there at 6.30 and they'll have the music playing and they do the starting line to sing the national anthem.

And then they literally run on the trails and on the streets all the way up to a city deck in Green Bay.

That's the finish line.

Yes.

And so it's a relay.

So you start like you have your car with your four people and then the first person runs as far as they can.

Then then the car stops.

You can't touch the guy and then you take off and run as far as you can.

That's fantastic.

That's how I mean the five of us we could put a team together.

Yeah Let

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me have another cannoli and think

about So you say what is it average you said eight eight teams I

see like six seven eight yeah five six miles down, you know because you got to have like the chase vehicle set up or your hand or whatever, but it's it's

I've been watching the event every year.

It gets bigger and bigger and I don't know.

I'm an early riser.

I think there's nothing more exciting than being out along the shore.

That's a perfect day

to it's gonna be what 58

beautiful day.

It's

gonna be amazing.

Yeah, that's that's good for you guys.

That's gonna

be if you're out, you know, anywhere between Oshkosh and Green Bay and you see the runners on Saturday, you know, wow.

Give him a give him a wave.

No question about it.

There's got to be.

You know

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what?

I live right on the city deck, basically.

I'll be the

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welcomer.

Yeah.

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There

you go.

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Yeah.

The finish line.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's me at the checkered flag.

Is it all is it all really?

It's all really okay.

Yeah, there's always got some show off.

That's gonna run.

Oh my gosh.

There's like time.

Yeah, my rest my team didn't show up.

I'll just carry it today.

It's great having

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you

guys here.

Thank you for this

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great city of Oshkosh.

Well, thanks for coming to Oshkosh.

We love Oshkosh and we hope you love Oshkosh too.

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We do.

Come

on down.

You better believe

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it.

No

question about

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it.

Pat and Don Tracy discover Oshkosh.

When is your next episode, by the way?

Pat discovers coffee houses could drop today on Discover Oshkosh or Discover Oshkosh Facebook.

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What's bigger?

Coffee houses around here or breweries?

Brewers

are going to win that

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every

day

John.

But coffee houses is a close second.

It is though.

It really is.

People love coffee and the coffee houses it's fun to go and they have you talk about all these different types of beers.

Different types of coffees are very popular as well so.

It's

awesome.

And they sell beer in the coffee.

All right.

Tell us again where we can get those unbelievable cannolis and

cheesecake.

Box River

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Brewery, cannoli and cheesecake.

Beautiful.

Pat Tracy, your lovely wife, Don.

Thank you both so

very much for being

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here.

Thank you.

Lisa, thank you for the hospitality.

Lisa Hale coming down to Oshkosh.

Todd, thanks for putting it all together.

We've had a phenomenal time.

Great guests.

We'll keep it rocking with you guys.

Mine in the mirror.

See ya.

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