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Lunchbreak with Ray & Shannon · Fri Oct 9, 2026

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Good afternoon, Milwaukee.

You're tuned in to the lunch break on 1017 The Truth, where everything is an option on the menu.

And one thing about me, I'm a tough cookie, but I know what I can do, and I'm not suffering, all right?

I've fought my whole life.

I'm all right.

Excuse me, Cletus.

Hoppa, who this man?

I wasn't doing it.

So I was like, I'm not paying $1,000 to sleep on somebody couch.

Grab your lunch, hit send on that email, and get ready for the best hour of your day.

My way of thinking is that the parents do all they can.

But once the kids leave off that door, whatever have you, they make their own decisions.

I don't care if you nine or 99.

It's still your decision about the situations that you didn't bob yourself in.

We talking about tax paying citizens.

Look into their taxes.

Look into this.

We talking about elected officials doing backdoor deals and somehow she still wanna blame immigrants.

That's what we talking about right now.

We following the money and you still wanna blame black people and immigrants and welfare and all of these things for policies and backdoor deals that put poor people in worse position.

Live from the American Family Insurance Studio at the Third Street Market Hall.

Like you said, they want to pad their pockets, but they need a reason to push things through.

And I guess the low-hanging fruit is, OK, well, this is a problem, right?

Y'all want to fix the problem, and they just hope nobody looks into it like, wait, when did food trucks

become an issue?

Here are your hosts, Ray Nitty and maybe Shannon.

What

up?

What up?

What up, Milwaukee?

What it do?

It's your favorite two with your favorite crew in the brood, the lunch break crew.

Ray Nitty, maybe Shannon, DJ brother Z holding us down with the production and sound.

And it is Friday, y'all.

It is Friday.

Say it with me.

Shannon, you ready?

It's lunchtime.

We weren't in unison, but you at least said something this

time.

See, we getting there.

And I said it's the

right thing.

I was going to say, it's funky Friday.

Man, how you feeling, Shannon?

How you feeling?

Truth nation, truth family.

Cousins, pull up.

It's lunchtime.

Ring the bell.

You know, remember

how they rang the

bell and people knew it was time?

What was that?

Like the cattle?

Yeah, let's, let's, no.

No, you ever seen like, yeah, let's try this switch.

Yeah, just.

How you feeling

over here, right?

I'm feeling all right, Shannon.

I'm feeling all right.

It is Friday.

Man, I wanted to I wanted to get into the studio early to the day.

Truth Nation, if you just joining us.

Sherwin, man, he had a historic, powerful interview today.

He had what is the third only the third elected black governor in the country, Governor Westmore.

And he also interviewed.

potentially the next governor of Wisconsin, David Crowley.

And how was that?

I wish I could have been there and actually seen it.

Obviously, you can replay it on YouTube, but I think to actually be in the presence of not one, but potentially two.

Black governor know what we can't even count on two hands.

How many black governors we had in this country?

That says a lot 250 years.

Then we just celebrate 250 years of this country or something like that.

However much birthdays we just had,

but.

We have a very interesting show for everybody today.

All we have a very interesting show for everybody today.

But before we do that, Shannon, tell them what they can find and set.

Definitely make sure you follow your host Ray nitty is at Ray nitty across our all platforms are a Y and I TTI you have maybe Shannon, which is me

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That's where you can find us after lunch break is over.

We still continue conversation over there.

The lunch break on Facebook is where you can find us.

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833-212-1017.

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Hang out in the chat where the cousins be at.

Ray, what you over there giggling at?

I was just reading the first line of the call opening.

It just took me out reading it, man, my bad.

You probably chuckled too once you read it, but.

Yeah, man.

Like Shannon said, pull up, man.

Bring somebody to lunch with you.

Please, please bring somebody to lunch with you.

Share the live.

Share it.

We have a menu full today.

So good afternoon.

Good afternoon, everyone.

Good afternoon.

I hope you ready to have a good time.

and taking in this information we have today.

This is Friday, man.

It's Friday.

It is.

Made it to Friday, another week in the

books, man.

So today, Shannon, we closing out the week at the table, right?

OK.

So I guess today we putting the energies in front of the fire squad.

They're giving 32 million back to customers this fall.

But what does your cut really equate to?

13.

We'll save it.

We ain't gonna say.

We ain't gonna say how much it was.

We'll talk about that once it starts.

But meanwhile, they're asking for a 14% hike.

You know, we had a few folks on the show before talking about said hikes when they had that on the meeting.

And it was educating folks on these hikes and everything that was going on and the cost that it would cost these families.

So we're gonna be getting into that.

Then last lights last night's late question.

I call Shannon.

I asked you a question, Shannon.

And I asked.

Xavier and brother Z2 when I got in today.

I'm interested to hear what they response was.

Yeah, I was I was I was surprised too.

But the question was.

Do you believe.

in a parallel universe.

Like, is it true?

Do they exist?

And how do we reach them?

So we're going to get into that as well today.

Do you all believe that a parallel universe exists?

All right.

We've heard of things like the Mandela effect, right?

Or some people saying, oh, man, I saw this movie once and now I can't find it anywhere.

And in certain sector of people saying that movie never came out.

Even the actors in it themselves said, man, I ain't acting no movie like that.

They're caught in a parallel universe, too.

So we go talk about that, man.

Then it was another naked streaker, man.

This time it was a little bit more serious because they were in front of school.

And if I'm not mistaken, they got a school day during school days.

So we'll talk about that as well.

And then Shannon at 12 30 on the dot.

What do you got popping for us?

Listen we we got listen what's popping with Shannon's gonna be interesting when you don't want to miss this make sure you guys are here locked in at 12 30 like I said if you're in your car and you're about to get out soon just head over to YouTube so you can join the chat what's popping with Shannon 12 30 you don't want to miss it we

I need y'all advice on this, because I feel like it almost reminds me of the Savannah James conversation,

but this one is

a little more serious, right?

But this one, I feel way different than I did about Savannah James.

It's a whole different ball game.

We have a celebrity, a very popular actor, we'll say who when we get, when we cross that bridge, that said that he could have helped a friend in a really dire situation, and he didn't.

We gon' talk about that situation, we gon' talk about that actor.

Um after we were after we get into to buzz bobble with Shannon at 1230.

I'm

excited

to talk about it.

So I really really want to talk about it right now.

Listen.

Because I feel like

no.

Get out.

I'm

like,

matter of fact, we're gonna do it now.

Right, man.

But we do also have a very interesting

Very, very interesting segment.

And I think it may just serve as our meat and potatoes.

OK.

More serious tone, though.

Fire and squad, right?

A firing squad.

They are getting ready to publicly live stream.

An execution.

an execution.

By firing squad.

And we're going to talk about it.

And it is interesting because we just had an example of where they couldn't get the job done, you know.

So now I think this lady is getting ready to to walk away, not necessarily Scott free, but, you know,

It's not gonna have

to even gonna get a little payday.

Honestly, she's still alive.

That's what she wanted.

She might be

able to sell.

I think you get no payday now.

I think you get no payday.

You just get to not die.

I think that's a payday enough.

I think

now I think her lawyers are getting ready for a big lawsuit.

Well, so it was it's

You know what?

We're going to get deep into it.

So we're going to save it.

But that's a good it's a good conversation, though.

Look at look at Crowley and Westmore just all across the state, all across the city.

Look at them.

Oh,

right.

Look, you should be out there, right?

I got a job.

I got a job to

do.

You said I got a job.

I got a job to

do.

You got your boots on the ground over here.

You got.

Yeah.

Well, shout out to my boy though.

I'm proud of him.

I actually called him this morning.

I said, bro, I'm proud of you, man.

I'm proud of you and I love you, bro.

And continue the good work and, you know, just remember who you are and where you from.

He was like, I got you.

So.

But yeah, man, we talking about is it Sidney Pike?

What's her name?

I can't remember the name.

The one that just won't go down the vampire.

The one literally.

The very evil, what is her name?

Her last name is

Pike for

sure.

Pike

or Piker?

It's Pike.

It is Pike.

You got the last name right, then

you got it

wrong.

Pike.

I'm going, Miss Pike.

When we come back, y'all, we'll get into the menu right here on the award-winning 101.7 The Truth.

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What up y'all welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the American family and sure studios It's your boy Ray nitty.

Maybe Shannon DJ brother Z holding us down with the production is sound and it is lunchtime Shannen, how you feeling?

I'm feeling good brother Z snapped with this one But but my question is brother Z which which beat this is which which artist is it Boosie or we doing GZ which one we going?

That's a confusing question, Shannon.

It's not because Boosie also used this beat for

they died.

You say it on here.

Whose is it?

Which one?

Which one you like better or do we like?

I think it's Jeezy.

We like Jeezy.

I think it's

Jeezy.

Which one you think of, Brother Z?

I think he said Jeezy.

said he ain't answering.

ain't answering.

I'm gonna text him.

Anywho, but yeah, I love.

I love that beat.

That beat does something to the spirit.

Whoever made that one, it's a really good one.

Man.

All right, Shannon, let's get into the menu today.

833-212-1017.

That is the number to dial.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

So we getting into this.

Today, Shannon, we energies has an announcement.

There'll be another announcement later today as well.

So make sure you tune in to the tap and speaking of announcements.

That's out the jazz, Tyler.

We energies has an announcement.

Shannon, more than 32 million in automatic bill credits hitting this fall.

Finally, we about to get some bread back, man.

These bills been too high, Shannon.

Okay,

it's always nice You can't you can't enjoy this money that we are about to get

I'm happy for my people at home.

I'm gonna chase my mama like see me back a little song.

Throw me a couple dollars

So they say lower fuel costs last year Then they project it.

That's why I guess that's why I guess

Fuel cost was lower than potential.

I don't understand how.

But anyway, so the difference comes back to us automatic.

No forms, no cost.

I don't like the setup it is.

How do you feel about this so far, Shannon?

So explain again, because they projected it to be lower, you get

money back.

So I guess I'm assuming it was prorated.

For what they was anticipating on fuel cost was going to be last year and fuel cost was Lower than they projected.

So the difference comes back to us automatic wheel.

So we basically overpaid Exactly

And how do we know they paying us back the correct amount?

I guess I wouldn't like that.

That's a fair way to

I think it would be good to bring back our folks that we had from, I can't remember why the organization is slipping my mind, but when we talked about the energy situations that was going on, the organization slips my mind.

Antonio, I wanna say his name was Antonio from the organization.

I get the name of the organization, I'll dig it up and bring it up, but they had a very, very interesting,

On conversation because one of the things they were talking about was the height the hike in the energy rates and how much it was going to cost folks and You know things that they said they feel like we're paying for that We shouldn't in examples of like Chicago capping You know how much rates could be hiked to and so forth and I guess one of the things they highlighted is the company

that is doing it in Chicago is also the company that is owned by we energies.

So there's like it's not like it's something foreign to them.

They're doing it right next door.

But here in Milwaukee, we have this.

I would just call it rogue landscape where there's no cap on how much our stuff could be increased.

But yes, Shannon, we getting the kickback finally.

You asked a good question.

I'm trying to figure out how.

Why?

That's why it feels like I didn't sign up for this.

Thanks for the kickback.

But why do I have to pay more in the first place?

In early year projections.

Why was I pre-charged so much so that you have to give it back to me because the gases was low?

Or maybe they saying they just had some extra and they put it back.

We'll continue more about it.

But here's what people get, Shannon.

If you're a typical residential customer, you want to take a guess?

Rich.

You want to take it again?

$32 million, man.

How much you think we finna get?

I mean, $32 million.

You would think, like, at least a couple hundred.

That'd be a nice little check for somebody.

Yeah, that wouldn't be bad.

regular person could use a couple of hundred.

Yeah.

Gas is high.

Yeah, that's not bad at all.

So here's our cut.

If you are a typical residential customer, you will get 13.

to $14.

$100.

dollars.

Oh.

Just

dollars.

Well, maybe I won't be calling my mom for a piece of her.

$13.

I was like, I'll call my people and ask for a little chance.

$13.

Let me hold some.

I guess I won't be um.

$13, Shannon.

$13 to $14.

That's it.

That's all.

That's the credit.

The credit runs about two cents.

per kilowatt an hour on your October usage.

So the example household using 660 kilowatt hours a month gets about $13.60 shows up on your October or November bill depending on your cycle.

If you're on budget billing it falls into your next review $13 and 60 cents one time That's it.

Yeah That's it

not the one-time payment of $13

That's like it's like what it's like them class action lawsuits, right?

It's like yeah, like who really benefits from this

I guess as a whole, it teaches the company a lesson.

They, they.

Who benefits?

Yeah.

833-212-1017.

I mean, some people can

use at $13.

I ain't gonna lie.

It's hard out here.

Some people

can

really use at $13.

You're

not getting it in a check.

I've had people

ask me for a couple dollars on it.

You're not getting it in a check check.

You

can't even spend it how you want.

You're getting $13 in WeE energies.

You're getting $13 and 60 cents worth of energy added into your bill.

So essentially.

forced me to overpay.

And then I

got to put it towards y'all again anyway.

Wait, wait, wait.

What if I move it out?

Force you to overpay.

Get also raise it.

You feel me?

Because we raised that.

You know what I'm saying?

We was raising the energy rates too.

And then turn back and be like, you know what?

I know I raised your stuff more than 53% over the last however many of years.

And gas was lower last year than we said thought it was going to be.

So we're going to give everybody back $13.

$13.

Not in cash in kilowatts.

Right.

Come right

back

to us.

That's crazy.

Is that efficient?

that

enough?

I don't think so.

And even if it was in cash, that would probably be a little better.

But what if I'm moving out of town?

What if I'm homeless by now?

The bill's so high, the guy ain't even got a kilowatt for you to put a door.

People are struggling out here.

Yeah.

I think it's interesting because, like I said, the energy rates has raised so much over the last years.

People have paid way more.

Way more in in energy race raises than $13 and 60 cents, right and And given off of the information that we got I really need to find which our organization that was I can't find it but you know given the the information that they they gave us it's like it has raised so much over the past few years it's like this

It's 1360.

I don't understand.

Where is the impact?

It's like you basically give him back what you already overcharges for and raise the rate.

Crazy.

Man, I don't

know.

I'm just

asking.

It don't feel fair.

You know what I mean?

It just don't feel like it doesn't feel like a win.

I feel like the 13 is supposed to feel like, look, here you guys go.

Look at that.

And like you said, the rates are being raised.

So it's.

Man, what is.

Let's see if I can figure out what's the average.

We energies.

I felt like it was like

sincere in the chat said that math ain't math and if you

overpay

trash

at all.

So it reminds me of a situation, right?

With.

T-Mobile very not similar not quite similar but similar scenario in my opinion so I got a modem from from T-Mobile and the modem never worked and You know I was busy running around and trying to call in and all these other things took forever to even get them to Acknowledge that the modem didn't work.

They wouldn't take it off my account

over the phone, so I had to go into the store to turn the modem in.

Turn the modem in, they never took the modem off the account.

So for months now, you know, they been saying I owe them $700 in equipment, right?

Double charging you.

Triple charging me.

So I'm like, yo, I gave you all the equipment.

They disrupted the services for the business account.

Like so the internet is down now.

I'm like, yo, I gave you all this modem.

And they like, ah, well, we're going to need you to pay for it so we could look into it.

So gave them the 700.

I'm telling you, gave them the $700 for them

to look at

it.

Come on, man, gave them the $700 for the modem.

I had to go back to T-Mobile and be like, yo, I turned in this piece of equipment.

What is going on?

Do put the equipment back from the T-Mobile.

I have this all on video, too.

This is the wild part.

pulled it back and then all they did was give me back the, not even give me back the money, they just took the equipment off.

So I'm like, hold on now.

Y'all ain't put, sure, you took the equipment off and whatever credit, but I paid you something that I didn't need to pay you for.

So yes, it's supposed to give me that back, but I've been at an inconvenience for months, but don't go anywhere, y'all, when we come back.

It's gonna be time for what's poppin' with Shannon.

Don't go anywhere, y'all.

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Ray, how you feeling?

I'm feeling good, man.

What's the

time for

what's the time, man?

You're ready

to hear what's popping with Shannon.

Well, let us hear your what's popping.

Introduce the

segment, right?

No, no, no, no.

This was great.

This is great.

Let's start.

This is great.

It's 1232, Shannon.

Let's go.

We like the what's popping.

We already in the segment.

I just wanted to be introduced by the great what?

my god.

Listen, we are in what's popping with Shannon.

And as I mentioned, have to deliver.

We are talking about yet another celebrity.

I would call this one being stingy with his money.

I mean, even let's just get into it and I'll let y'all decide, Truth Nation.

So Chris Rock is facing some criticism.

Yes, the same Chris Rock that got slapped by Will Smith that that is that is our guy the Madness gas car Zebra.

Yeah, he is facing criticism after sharing a decision that he says still bothers him to this day He said that he had the money to help pay for a lawyer for his childhood best friends He said what he described this person is one of his best friends.

I guess one of his best friends brother

Ended up wrongfully convicted of murder and he chose he chose not to help out So he basically said in an interview that his one of his best friends came to him and he pleaded with him multiple times asking for him to help his brother out his brother is being like Accused of murder.

This is something he did not do they can prove it.

They just don't have the money for the lawyer if y'all ever been

dealing with the system y'all know it's a money game and y'all need some if your money long yeah ain't wrong you know so they were asking Chris to come to their defense help him out with some money so they can get a good lawyer Chris said no and the brother ended up going to jail for I believe 19 years and his conviction was overturned I ain't gonna lie if I was the brother you know what let me just keep going um so like I said this is somebody Chris Rock grew up with

And he repeatedly pleaded with him to help cover the legal representation.

And his explanation was basically that he has a personal rule against paying legal fees because those expenses can keep growing without a clear end.

He felt like if he helped now, it would just be an ongoing battle and he would have to continue to help.

He did acknowledge he had the means to help, but he didn't.

And he also said that he doesn't know whether or not his help would have even helped at the time.

So he felt like, I don't even know if I did get them the proper representation.

If I did pay

for a lawyer, I

don't know if that would have actually helped at the time.

I mean, I think it's clear now that it probably would have helped because the conviction got overturned, but you know, whatever.

Now, Rock said this was 19 years ago.

Right So the guy's name let me find it for you guys it says Logan served 17 years before his conviction was overturned in 2014 he had been sentenced to 25 years to life in 1997 for a shooting of a Sherwin Gibbons and this wasn't simply somebody saying my friend would never do that, right?

That like it's not like the brother was coming to him like man He just needs a lawyer like you know some people be full of it And they did

you

know and or they just assuming like no my brother wouldn't do that for you know According to the innocence project Logan maintained his innocence from the beginning his convict conviction relied heavily on a woman that claimed She witnessed the shooting later in a review uncovered by the police in records

They undermined her account and her testimony was discredited.

So they rely heavily on something that was already discredited.

So 17 years, y'all, this friend or this friend's brother, one of his best friend's brothers, spent 17 years in jails.

We're talking birthdays, family gatherings.

Like, I think people like, even when I was on jury, right?

I feel like people fail to realize how long a week is in jail, like how long it is to be away from family, friends, like think of how much has happened since 2020.

Like I can imagine so many birthdays, so many life changing events, so many people have been married, so many people in our family have passed away and just so many big things have happened 17 years and then you're innocent and you're in jail.

So that is something that

Man that that will change a person and no amount of money can give you that time back or give you that mental stability back And I think that's why that admission has people upset So in online discussion some commenters are calling Chris Rock basically a traitor like that betrayal I wouldn't even be do friend no more.

They like dude.

It's a horrible person

Some people are saying, look, you couldn't even drag that information out of me.

And some people are accusing him of just trying to come out with information because it might be coming out soon anyways.

I don't know, but I wouldn't admit it's nothing like that.

And then in the interview, I thought it was weird because he was basically talking about how black people are accused and convicted before the proof and the details emerge.

And then you go on to say that you didn't help a black man that you knew was innocent.

didn't understand

that interview at all.

It made it even worse, like admitting that you know this, admitting that you know the odds are stacked against black people.

And then you let that man go into this without proper defense, knowing you had the means.

It wasn't going to put your mom out of house and home.

It wasn't going to make your life harder by helping out.

And in my opinion,

I feel like if he felt like oh well like lawyers get tricky because you never know when it ends Why not give them a lump sum of money and be like after this?

I can't help y'all can't get a good lawyer with this I don't know what more I can do you know what I mean?

So it just it just makes you really look at them funny like that's why we'll win upside your head because you've been fake you've been playing with people I don't know man, and then I saw another interview that

Talked about how he refused to even help his brother out with his career And I'm like maybe he's just a very selfish person like he like after that interview It just didn't sit right with me and we do have a clip.

I believe Brother Z have a clip

He's not obligated to do anything it's his money however Wild horses couldn't have dragged that story out of me and you just voluntarily got up there and told everybody

A guy named Roger Logan, who I grew up with, his one of my best friend's brothers, went to jail for 19 years for a murder he didn't commit.

Here's a weird thing.

His brother used to plead with me to pay for a lawyer for Roger and I never did it.

I had means to help him and I didn't and I don't know if we could have got him out or not but still.

I always had like a no lawyer thing because a lawyer is like an open-ended thing.

Like I'll pay your mortgage, I'll put whatever.

There's a bunch of

I paid for education, all sorts of shit.

I always stay out of lawyers because it's so open-ended.

First of all, Chris Rock won't even help his own brother, Tony Rock.

So I'm not surprised he's not helping someone else's brother.

But I get not wanting to pay legal fees for somebody, even if it is your best friend for 20 years, but you can't just give like a lump sum.

He tried to get in front of you by doing this and telling us his story so the man couldn't tell us first.

And it's just like, yeah, now we get it.

Now we get it while Will Smith almost laid you out.

Damn.

I'm sorry so right after hearing that what do you think do you think that we all the people that we love when their freedom is on the line if you have the means to help do you think it's the right thing to do to help out or is it for them to figure out especially when it's something that has the

law involved um so on a on a moral on a moral compass

side, okay, right?

Sure.

It's easy for us to be like, oh, while we don't have the means, but we saying if we had the means to help, we would help, right?

Right,

right.

So it's easy to say, yes, we'll help, right?

But I also think that, like, man, we are in this space where, one, I feel like society doing something extreme, like,

just telling somebody else what they should or should not be doing with their bread right now.

And it's like, we don't know what the outcome could have been for that case.

We don't know the details of that case.

He probably didn't know the details of the case either.

Let's look at it like this, right?

Let's look at some of the situations here in Milwaukee.

where you had a prestigious business owner paying the bail for habitually, you know, this guy that kept getting pulled over or whatever and somebody paid the bail.

Now they're talking to like, oh, why would you pay the bail?

And he's done this.

75 other times and so forth.

This is like a real case.

Maybe 75 isn't the number.

But, you know, you just want more details about the situation that you just say, OK, I'm going to put a lump sum to or whatever the case may be.

So I could understand his hesitance in, you know, not wanting to just jump into it.

And then also to he might like.

That's his best friend, brother.

He ain't say he was just super cool with his best

friend, brother,

brother.

I'm just,

I'm sorry, but best friend, when you call somebody your best friend, you know they family, you, you cool with a family, you know what I'm saying?

But we don't get right back into this.

Cause I got more questions for you right after these messages.

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I was trying to figure out what this was coming in.

I wasn't here when this came out, but I heard the song though.

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Welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one set.

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It's your boy Ray Nitty.

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And we are in the midst of us popping with Shannon.

Shannon, what is popping?

Sound like a lot of pocket watches.

Yes, sir.

It sounds like pocket watching I guess that is what's popping right now.

We've got a story about Chris Rock He recently did an interview where he admitted that there was a point in time I believe 17 years ago that his best one of his best friends came to him and Asked him to help out with some money so that he can get lawyers for his brother who was being wrongly accused of a murder that he did not commit

Chris rock said that he has a rule that he doesn't get involved with lawyers and he won't give money for that Because that is one of those things that can go on and on and on And you never know what the outcome would be, right?

And I also do want to mention that it wasn't one of those situations where it's like, oh,

my brother

wouldn't do that No, like this guy ended up being I think what is it acquitted or?

What does he call when they free you?

Losers for 17 years later or 14.

I think he served.

I think he ended up serving 14 years of his sentence, but they ended up freeing him because he in fact did not do it.

Um, he ended like, yeah, he ended up free.

And Chris Rock said he kind of thinks about it to this day, but he was sticking to his guns of not helping people out.

And I guess the question was

when

it comes to your friends or your family,

Do you believe you will help them out in that situation if you have the means?

He didn't say it would have hurt his pockets at the time.

He didn't say he just didn't have it to help or it would have put him in a bad position.

He said he just has a rule where he doesn't help people in those types

of situations.

Let's go talk to cousin Al.

Al, how are you feeling?

I'm feeling good.

Well, if he's questioning, if his conscience is questioning him, that's because something was not right about his spirit.

Furthermore, even if you pay somebody more because if they don't pay the property taxes for three years, they can go on a foreclosure and they can lose it if they lose it to bad dope.

And furthermore, that was not his friend.

because that's a friend of convenience.

Because if it's a friend, you're going to be there from the womb to the tomb, and you're just going to say, don't make me look stupid.

But what happened was he didn't do it because, again, Chris Rock is one of those types.

when they get on that money, they get on that inward sugar honey iced tea and now

they feel

like they're the huskables and then sometime they feel like if they're too kind, somebody is getting over.

So if you're conscious is questioning yourself, there's something not right about his spirit.

And if that is so his so-called friend, that if I was his friend, I would disconnect it because you didn't find value in me.

You said F that in word, and now it's weighing on your conscious.

So if you can't sleep at night, it's something about your spirit.

Now, let's see do he say that when it comes to the white folk.

Let me ask you this real quick, Al.

I know this is what's popping with Shannon, but I just got a quick question.

It was his best friend's, one of his best friend's brother.

It wasn't his actual best friend that needed the assistance.

It was his best friend's brother that needs the assistance.

So I don't know, like, are we taking into consideration that we don't know what that relationship was with the best friend's brother?

Or it's like, oh, it's still an extension of your best friend.

So you should have been.

Well, here's the thing, you are not obligated.

But if you're my best friend of 20 years, and I got the money, and I already know how the justice system is, and I'm picking your word, that's my best friend, I'm gonna be there for you.

Now, if you make me look stupid, now I'm gonna have to let you write like a nursing home diaper.

But if you're my friend, you're my friend for 20 years, if I find value in you,

And you got value in your brother.

I'm dead now.

You make me stupid.

I'm gonna let you write like a family member sitting in the cast.

You're waiting for room for people to get in.

How about

that?

Hmm.

Mm hmm.

I agree.

Well,

thank

you out for

calling.

always appreciate you calling in and have a good one.

But yeah, I agree with Al.

And honestly, like, I don't want to look, I don't want nobody emailing me or DMing me right now because I got it.

But like, no, I shouldn't.

the type of person I am.

I need some help.

No seriously though.

This is a black man that is being accused of murder.

This ain't no like misdemeanor.

This ain't something that'll this too shall pass.

We looking at lifetime in prison and it sounded like he also knew that he didn't do it.

If things were laid out in front of me and I was like, okay, it looks like he didn't do it and I have

all the

information.

Like you said, being a celebrity or being in the public eye,

You may need more information because it could look bad on you for helping this person out.

But if I'm about to come up with some money, I do want to see the information.

I do want to see the evidence.

I want to really believe in you.

And if I do believe this person is truly innocent, I'm going to give up the money and it don't even have to be a best friend brother.

I would just hate for another person.

To become a victim of the system because we know how vulnerable black men are when they go in front of that judge So if I have if I'm in position to give you resources to make sure that you are You're represented in the right way I'm gonna do it and they don't even have to be a friend Especially if I know you're innocent and we're talking about something like murder this person is about to have their whole life taken from them forever And it's something they didn't do and it sounded to me like in that interview.

He knew that this person

Didn't do it.

He was a yeah cuz he didn't do it, but you know he pleaded with me and I just that's my rule and I'm like We ain't talking about no parking tickets.

All right, we ain't talking about somebody that's come man You just in and out of jail for something silly like I don't know the rest of that Maybe maybe he didn't know this person.

What was a hothead and ended out of jail?

I don't know

but

it sounded to me like in that interview He knew this person was innocent and I wouldn't be able to sit by and watch nobody go to jail for life You don't even got to be my best friend brother

I don't know if I heard that he said that he knew the person was innocent.

I think he said that they were pleading with him that, you know, that he wouldn't do this type of thing.

But I don't know if

it's just

something that we could say he knew this person was innocent, right?

So it seems like what we're doing with this is a lot of what ifs, right?

So let me add a what if

the conversation there.

What if he did give the money?

And then it turned out that the situation was like he was guilty.

Then what?

Since we dealing with all yeah, so I think what I was

looking at was a longer I was looking at a longer video

and the

conversation was how he knew like black people get Railroaded and sent out dry and then it lead it into this conversation and in that fuller longer video We can play that video

So I'm black What does that mean when you're black?

White people believe every accusation is a conviction I grew up 619 Decada Street between Howard and Saratoga if you go on your phone and punch up Roger Logan Exonerated a guy named Roger Logan who I grew up with

It was very His one of my best friend's brothers went to jail for 19 years for a murder.

He didn't commit and Here's a weird thing.

Yeah, his brother used to plead with me to pay for a lawyer For Roger and I never did it

I always had like a no lawyer thing, because a lawyer is like an open-ended thing.

Like, I'll pay your mortgage, I'll put whatever.

There's a bunch of shit I've paid for, education, all sorts of shit.

I always stay out of lawyers because it's so open-ended.

And it still fucks with me.

I was like, I had means to help him, and I didn't.

And I don't know if we could have got him out or not, but still.

uh so all that to say is i'm black black men get accused of it and do all the time every day

so i think

I think the basis of that conversation made me feel like they're having a conversation about Black men being accused of things that they did not do.

So just from that alone, it made me feel like he knew he was being accused of something he did not do.

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Sounds good All right, so we gonna get into the chat we We have Alfonso said that will Smith slap hits different Sincere said hmm.

Maybe it's time to rethink that slap talking about mysteries Alfonso also said I don't owe nobody but my kids anything

And then we got RC creations He said sounds like that was a make-or-break your bank decision that he made best friend does not mean that they may not have a little bit of reputation also It like I said in the video he said he had the means to help he did he did call that out himself He said he had the means to help and he didn't it wasn't make-or-break moment for him in his bank account hmm

Alfonso said, begging never stops with takers, which I do agree.

I agree.

But y'all, this man was facing life.

All right, man.

Then Jasek.

Jasek capped that

fool.

He played the Annie Up song.

Brothers, he had played the Annie

Up and

that's it.

We ain't on the firing squad section yet.

Oh my goodness, I was like, dang, I ain't that mad at him for not

paying for

it.

But it sounds

like we also have a caller on the line, my D. How you doing?

I'm blessed with a band.

Well, so far, I'm rolling.

Yo, y'all got me rolling.

Y'all got me rolling.

before

you get into it, because we got to ask you a safety question.

Brother Z wants to know, are you not driving and texting while you out there?

Are you?

Well, I got down.

got down tired.

got down tired because we only going a short distance.

We only going like, because we hauling dirt.

So we go like 20, 20, 28 minutes like now.

I'm talking on the phone with you guys.

I'm pulled over to the side because I got to respond to this.

So,

yeah, I got y'all to dump me.

These state troopers watching a black man in a dump truck getting money.

I appreciate you, DJ, brother Z. Yeah, man, you

know, brother Z, we care about all our family members, man, but

I'll let

y'all... Go ahead, Shannon, continue the conversation.

Yeah,

definitely.

We're just getting into what you

wanted.

Yeah, I just wanted to...

I just wanted to, I just wanted to keep y'all to keep in mind that remember, uh, Puffy, Puffy had millions of dollars and it didn't keep them, it didn't keep them out of, out of jail.

So even though you got, you got, you know, uh, just rock, trying to clear his mind and his conscience.

Cause it was easy to look back and say what you should have done, but let's keep it real.

We gotta stop all this talking.

Watch.

Because it's a difference between guided and dope.

I agree with

Shannon.

You know, you know, she ever

liked to feel some kind of way when it comes to the situation, but at the same time, we got to realize there's a difference between having it and dope having it.

And that's the decision making.

You know what I'm saying?

I had to teach myself.

I'm 56 years old.

My pastor got on me, man.

I had to start this last year.

My pastor told me, man, you got to stop saying no.

You got to start saying no, bro.

You're calling thousands, well, thousands.

So, so, so, you know, and goes back to their relatives, man, they, man, they gotta set the barbecue bro.

We gotta be passing them no money out.

Well, don't feel obligated to take care of people that, that, that wasn't a part of your journey.

You know what I'm saying?

So I appreciate y'all 100%.

But you know, we, it's easy for us to look at what that man should have done.

But at the same time, look at Puffy, he had millions.

He's still sitting there.

Baby all in all see

I think I think the problem with the puffy situation was he was a hundred percent guilty That was the problem.

He should have got more time That that's the problem there.

He was completely guilty There was so much evidence and that's why he got he that's why he went to jail still and he still he had good lawyer So he still didn't get as much time as he probably should have got and I think in this situation

It was proven that this man was not guilty and he was just being railroaded by a system that was built against some.

Some.

But we definitely appreciate your call.

Thank you for giving us a call and thank you for adding to the conversation.

We also have a call from Miss Sandra.

How are you doing, Miss Sandra?

Cousin.

Hi.

Hello.

I'm fine.

How are we doing over there?

We're doing good.

We're

doing good.

OK, I was listening to what you were speaking of.

And it always when they speak of the law and prison and stuff, it always gives me because I had a son in prison.

And he stayed in prison 22 years, and mainly with solitary confinement.

And then I look at this world, and then I see the worst people that's run in the country.

I mean, there's some of everything, everything.

And we're the black people.

We are the first to say,

If our people committed a crime, throw them in jail or whatever, whatever.

But, you know, I'm the one that wants to look at the whole system, because now they got the stock market and the prison system.

They got the prisoners doing the work we should be doing for a dollar something an hour.

And they got all the stuff, the people we shop at, like just say Walmart, the people we shop at, they

You know, they are proud of the businesses, too, because they give this Alex thing.

All the money comes that better ones make decisions as to the to legislate the law.

Now, my son was under truth and sentence.

And California got three strikes.

So whatever term they give you, you have to do that whole term now.

It ain't to get out on.

Good behavior used to be years ago because I've been here all my life.

I'm 77.

It used to be you could get out on good behavior, but now it's that they give you that sit and she's got to do it.

But anyways, I would go up there to see him, which was well upon.

And then you go in and you see all these five people coming out with their lunch boxes.

Then I really get mad because.

I know the way United States is, is always black people that they target to commit all the crimes.

So our people spend the most time in jail, those white people up there come out with their lunchboxes with a job and probably, um, Prince benefits at all.

I definitely agree with you.

That's definitely tough.

I had a brother in jail, so I definitely know how that feels.

Appreciate you calling Miss Sandra.

Thank you for giving us a call, Miss Sandra.

Man, um, yeah, I think I'm I'm I'm agreeing with what everybody is saying and I you know, I just think it's it's always easier, right?

To speak about somebody's position that we're not in right and then say what we would have done and You know, we don't know what that pressure is for somebody like a Chris, right?

We could morally say what we would do

in the situations that we're in now and the people that we've held.

But I know, obviously, Shannon, yes, you are correct.

We are talking about somebody facing life for something, right?

We ain't talking about a we energies bill, right?

But morally, if we just talking about morally.

The act of kindness of helping people, because I think this is what it boils down to, right?

We're talking about the act of kindness of helping people if you have the means.

And, you know, we're looking at this situation because, you know, it's Chris Rock.

He's wealthy.

His one of his best friends brother was in jail and they asked for support.

And, you know, I just think of how many times we have friends that reach out for $20.

And it may not be that they're not going to jail, but it may be their lights being ready to turn off.

And we would say we don't have it.

Or, you know, man, when I'm going to get my money back, man, you know, so it's like it's always easy to talk about somebody else's situation.

But if we if we step back for a second and.

Let's replay all the moments that somebody reached out to us for help, whether it was $5 or $5 million for lawyer fees.

Like, how did we make that person feel that we didn't help?

And I'm not saying

we're

obligated to, I'm just

saying let's have a huge... Right, which I completely understand.

Good.

So I do understand we're not obligated to help anybody else.

Anybody else out right that's outside of your children, right?

And I do understand like once you start giving people will consistently come back to you for help and that's what I'm saying like if it's like a real current thing where it's like Okay, dude, you always in trouble.

You always finding yourself in a bad situation I'm not about to keep coming to save you completely understand but like I said, this is a life-changing event and from the clip I I gathered that he knew

That he was innocent because they're talking about black man being innocent and being falsely accused so I wouldn't morally

Let that just lie, you know I'm saying

and I

have been in situations where people will ask me for money tour XYZ And I'm like, you know what I give them the speech listen What can we do to keep you out of this position because I'm not gonna always be able to help you?

What

can we do to make sure that you're not back in the same situation asking me again next month?

Because I'm not gonna continue to do this.

So it's very important to establish boundaries, but also not just hang people out to dry

Every single time just because nope, I gotta stand on my boundaries.

It's always gonna be no I think things take evaluating the set the situation not every situation is the same they talk about Diddy if Diddy asked me for the dollar No, you've seen that evidence you hear these account witness accounts.

Absolutely not.

I don't care if diddy was my

brother, cousin, uncle, lover.

It was an allegation.

And I'm your best friend.

They got videos of him dragging Cassie.

They got text messages.

It is so much evidence.

No, absolutely not.

I agree with you 100%, right?

Mm-hmm.

And I want.

We'll talk.

We'll talk off here.

Don't go anywhere, y'all, when we come back.

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What is happening?

Shannon, we got Greg on the line, man.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

We talking about, you know, would you give your friend that bread if you had it, man?

Because I know some of us that won't even give their friend $20 for gas.

It comes with all types of questions.

Greg, how you doing?

I'm doing good.

How are you?

I can't complain.

Well, you can, but you got a good spirit.

Yeah, man.

Each time I hear these kind of stories, it touched a nerve on me because I got a son that did 15 years for something he didn't do and we did everything we could possibly do to get him out.

But what I was really calling for, I don't know if you guys have seen the further part of that story that

That guy, he got out and he got sued and he got paid.

He got like two million dollars from the state of New York.

Yeah, I didn't see the second part of that story at all.

Did you hear that part, Shannon?

Yeah, I did mention that he ended up getting out but I didn't I didn't see if he got a payday for that But I'm I mean most people that do end up getting out because it's proven that they're innocent do end up getting paid from the state for

Being in jail.

Well, we In my case we tried like hell and we didn't get a red cent the brother got paid and that's good for him

and

question for you, brother Greg.

So your relative, they ended up, your son, I apologize, they ended up getting out.

Yeah, he got out, he got out.

I mean, but.

And then there

was no type of like retribution is the city, the state didn't take care of y'all or nothing like that after.

We did everything we could.

I mean, he went to jail when he was 15 years old.

So that's.

That's

an interesting conversation because we just talked about the young kid that was 17 and they had him on house arrest for six months.

And in your case, it's a little bit even more drastic because he actually was serving time.

And he

was in Green Bay at 15, 16 years old.

it was for

my whole family and definitely for him, you know, we're dealing with dealing with it right now.

Well, we were truly sorry that you and the family had to experience that, man, and glad he had some sort of retribution by at least getting him out.

And hopefully somewhere down the line, he has compensated for the injustice that he had to serve.

I got a question for you.

You said

you asked for some support, right?

What was that like?

asking for support, knowing that your, uh, yo, yo son was innocent, right?

And seeing that folks that you probably love and say that you love, not probably that I know you probably love and couldn't get that support.

What was, what was that like processing those emotions and feelings?

Well, there wasn't necessarily support from, you know, financial from people that I know, but.

Just the support, I mean, we paid for lawyers, we did everything.

Just the system in the state of Wisconsin, there was no recourse, you know, other than he had to go, he had to tough it out, he had to go through it.

We did everything we could possibly do, spent money, all that stuff.

And it just did not...

So he ended up...

So he ended up not serving the full sentence and they found him innocent like after 15 years.

Is that what happened?

He was in jail for 15 years.

So he served the full sentence?

Yeah, I mean, he's still on paper for this.

It was

never

a definitive that he was guilty.

He got coerced to earn confession.

And it was a raggedy situation.

Yeah.

Very one.

State of Wisconsin.

Sorry.

You ain't the

only black kid that that happened to either, so.

Oh, I believe it.

I believe it.

Man, thank you for calling and sharing that with us.

OK.

Yes, absolutely.

Cousin Greg, thank you for calling.

You always welcome here on Truth Family.

Man.

Yeah, Shannon, I think, you know, that's the other side of the conversation that we talk about.

You

know, it's it's easy for us to talk speculatively, you know.

But then you have people that actually lived the experience.

You feel

me?

And that's why what ifs are, you know, they're kind of dangerous conversations to have because we don't know.

Just like we don't know what that experience was like.

for cousin Greg or his son.

So imagine he said he

went

in at 15 and did 15.

So imagine going in as a young kid.

And still on papers for something that you didn't do.

I don't even understand how you have the audacity to release somebody for something that they didn't do, but still keep them on papers.

That's

why it sounds like they they'd never overturn the conviction.

That's what I'm.

I mean, I'm not a lawyer and I don't know much but from what he was saying it sounds like they like the state sits still is recognizing it as He did it Unfortunately, so in my dad's case not to put his business out there.

He was also wrongly convicted His sentence was actually overturned that was before I was born though.

So, you know, I can't tell too much of his story.

He doesn't

You know, you don't like me all in his business or telling the whole world his business But he was and he ended up getting out after eight years Which is super unfortunate still because a day in jail is too long

especially when

you didn't do it He also didn't receive any compensation for that, but that's a different America.

We were living in at the time

Yeah, man, like you said, it's a bunch of people that is is dealing with that like I got a I got a cousin

Back home in the British Virgin Islands free my cousin for something he didn't do Even the witness says this wasn't the guy You know

the

witness

literally

said this wasn't the guy I saw You feel me but they still Got cousin in there serving that time and you know, what does that do to somebody's spirit?

While they in there, you know, you you in there knowing you didn't do something.

Years after years after years after years.

I don't even know if it's a dollar amount you could put on that.

Sure, you could.

It might it might ease the pain a little.

But if I gave you if I went in at 15 and get out at 30 something.

Two million dollars ain't enough.

I really miss my

childhood.

You have to think.

You have to think about how like that's why at the beginning of it.

And that's probably why I feel so sensitive to that specifically.

If you have the means to at least try to give somebody a fighting chance.

If you know for a fact that they are innocent, I would definitely do it because there's no number that can get you back those years.

He might have, it was overturned.

So his record probably is clean now.

Like, oh, oopsie Daisy, we

ain't gonna

add that on your record.

And then you give them $2 million, thanks.

But it's also to the point where it's like, I just spent 17 years of my life in jail.

17 years ago, I don't even think, was there even Facebook?

Was there social media?

You

have to think about how much

life has changed.

And like my nephew, he went to jail, I think it was 2020.

And when he got out, I didn't realize how much had changed.

I think he went 2019 right before COVID.

So if you think about how much the world had changed since then, even though it's, what, five years, maybe five, six years, it's like, he was like, oh, I want to go to a buffet.

I'm like, yeah, we don't got those no more.

He's like, why everybody door dashing and Uber isn't?

Like certain things changed that we didn't even realize.

And I'm like, man, I guess so, huh?

Like there was so many small changes and then so many of our family members passed away, so many graduations.

people like hit growth spurts and like you like the little baby that was a baby just then is now a teenager.

This is a different world than what we had

just

five years ago.

So when you think five, 10, 15 years, your parents getting older, they look completely different than they did before you, before you went in.

They need different assistance now.

They need you more now than you needed them back then.

So it's just a whole different world.

And I think I'm more sensitive to it because I see how short.

five years, things changed so drastically.

But we can get back into this conversation after these messages, you are listening to the award-winning 1017 The Truth.

You're listening to The Lunch Break with Ray Nitty and maybe Shannon, where every discussion is on the menu on the award-winning 1017 The Truth.

What up y'all welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the American family insurance studios Sheboy Ray nitty maybe Shannon DJ brother Z holding us down with the production and sound Shannon Yeah Another amazing what's popping

another

one?

Thank you, thank you man The topic inspired a conversation and brother Z got

Alfonso James on the line, who was wrongfully incarcerated, Shannon.

So I'd love for you and brother Alfonso to get into this conversation.

Definitely.

Oh, thanks for the invite.

All right, everyone.

Hey, how you doing, brother?

Thank you for taking some time and sharing your story with us here in our truth family.

I'm going to let Shannon, you know, kind of just give you an update on what we were talking about.

And then I'll let you all go through the conversation.

Absolutely.

Thank you.

Yeah, so we basically were talking about Chris Rock and how he had a best friend whose brother was being wrongly accused of murder and Chris Rock said that he has a rule where he just does not give any money to anything

Pertaining to lawyers and things of that nature because it could be an endless cycle.

That's how he feels about it So the brother ends up going to jail for 19 years and then I believe it got overturned and he ended up getting out and the internet is basically buzzing about how they felt like he was wrong for not trying to help his best friend's brother out and then it also turned into a conversation about

you know, people being wrongfully convicted and things of that nature.

So yeah, and then Brother Z let us know you had a similar situation and you know, we would love to hear your story.

Thank you for calling once again.

Oh, absolutely.

And thanks for having me.

Well, I can't speak from Chris Rock's perspective, but I can speak from the other brother's perspective.

Here in Wisconsin, I was given a life sentence when I was 17 years old and I ended up serving 32 years and within that period, I didn't know how to read.

I wasn't a very good communicator.

And so I didn't have the resources nor were there the innocence project.

So, you know, it's just like the torture, the emotional torture of being separated from your family wrongfully and then having your community not to back you or

have the resources to be able to get you in a position where you can get back in court and have that voice.

And so I've struggled all those years and I was like, but I'm going to be determined.

So when I am released and when I am proven to be innocent, I'm going to be a voice out in the community.

So people would know that, man, it's some great men and women that are incarcerated wrongfully, but they don't have the voice to go to resources.

And so I've been out 10 years now.

I have not yet been officially exonerated, but

We're a couple steps away.

In fact, we're days away.

So that'll be great news that's going to break here in Wisconsin.

You guys are the first to know.

And so, yeah, now that I'm out here, I created an organization called Unfragile.

And I have 32 acres falsely incarcerated.

This is how good God is falsely incarcerated 32 years.

And yet we have 32 acre firm called Unfragile up in Sheboygan, Wisconsin, where we're able to

to not only mentor men and women that return them back to our community and give them the resources, but we're able to encourage them and also hopefully give them the type of guidance that helped me become the man that I am today.

So I truly understand the struggles, I understand the pain of being away from your family and receiving those costs and that you have lost, a loved one had died and you can't go to the funeral.

I understand how it is to contemplate suicide, thinking that the whole world had abandoned you.

And yet God remained faithful in my journey.

And so today that's why I continue to be that voice of reason and voice of forgiveness.

It wasn't what the system did, but it was it is what God is doing and continue to do in my life that I celebrate.

Thank you for that.

That's an amazing story, actually.

Yeah, that's a super, super powerful.

So you said you have you said you did.

How long did you do?

32 years

and now you have a 32 acre farm where you do

a 32 acre farm Can you tell us and also go ahead?

I'm sorry.

No, go ahead,

brother.

And also I'm on tour now I completed actually when I began because I learned to read while I was incarcerated and

While I because I spent I served five years inside of solitary confinement And so while I was in the belly of the well, I learned to read I learned to write

I learned to develop a relationship with my God.

And so in doing those type of things, I imagined what I wanted to be when I was returning back to my community.

So I began to work on my character.

I began to work on my purpose of it.

And I began to do all those things with intention of the resolution being loved.

And so now I put all those things that I experienced in prison into a memoir.

And so we would not only am on a tour,

right now promoting the book, but also we creating a movie here in Milwaukee as we speak that's gonna show up on Netflix.

So it's a person, I'm from the inner city, third grade education, went to prison a hundred years, falsely, managed to navigate my way, but also God was in the way of me preventing harm from harming myself.

And now I stand on the other side of the fence and I projected these things when nobody believed me.

So I know the pain.

I know the suffering, but I also know the triumph of God that I serve.

So today, not only 32 acres, but I have a voice for my community.

To me, that's what it's about.

And that's why I was so determined to return back to Milwaukee, back to the same community where the homicide happened at.

That's where my healing is taking place.

I'm sorry for talking too much.

No, no, no,

no.

Brother,

you ain't talking enough.

You're just taking it in,

right?

Brother, you ain't even said enough.

think everything you said is what needed to be heard, right?

Because we were talking about the Chris Rock situation, but we don't know Chris Rock.

We don't know his situation.

And Chris Rock is not here.

And

don't have to deal with the what ifs when we have a brother Alfonso who's experienced it right here, right?

So brother trust me when I tell you you what you said wasn't even enough because there's some people who need to hear that brother and I'm I was sitting here getting emotional just Listening to you talk brother.

glad it wasn't just

me continue bro continue

that work because it is extremely needed.

Anything I could do, me and Shannon could do, brother, to help you with that journey, participate on that journey, spread that message because.

Bro, it's powerful in what you're doing and any resources we could connect you to, whether that be the Office of Violence, Office of Community Wellness and Safety, and all these other organizers.

You may already be connected with them, but your story was so powerful, brother, and we want to help amplify that and get that message out and share the work that you're doing because it is our important.

I'd love to come and visit that 32 acres as well, man.

And you're sending more than welcome to come anytime.

And then in addition to that, I will be having an exoneration celebration after this hearing.

And you guys are invited.

And then in addition to that, well, I'm about to fly to Vale, Colorado.

They invited me down there to speak, share my story.

Again, you know, look how good God is.

And so I'll be down there for four days.

And so I'll be until the 16th.

I'm coming back on the 16th.

And if we can make any arrangement in person, I don't care.

I just need to connect with y'all because the spirit of what you guys are doing is what I want to be connected with.

Man, appreciate

you.

Thank you so much.

Definitely use us as a resource.

Thank you again for that call.

Yeah, absolutely, man.

We'll chop it up some more offline.

I'm sure Brother Z going to get us connected and figure it out.

Man, yeah, that was powerful, Shannon.

I'm gonna let you talk.

My voice is getting a little quakey and shivery.

You

know, I'm 42 and emotional now.

We also have some comments in the chat.

We have someone, or RC News said, you would think they would be able to sue based off of negligence on somebody's part.

Sincere said, oh, he was commenting on my dad's situation.

Rc also said they used to say that one million could last you a lifetime now.

It's roughly Two million or no, it's two billion due to inflation.

Mm-hmm.

We also have sincere that says salute to you caller Alfonso my sympathies for your pain and struggles please peace and blessings Rc said everybody needs a purpose

which is true.

Everybody does need a purpose, and I think sometimes we don't realize, even in the rougher situations, our purpose is being set up, and it sounds like he's found his purpose, and he's gonna do some great things to help people out in situations like him, and even if people aren't in those same situations, I feel like he can do some great things in our community.

Shout out to him.

Man, yeah, that was deep, man.

Happy Friday, everyone.

This is a powerful Friday.

Great topic, Shannon.

Great topic.

Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, and that's what's popping with Shannon.

That was that was good.

That was good, man.

Yeah, I'm just I'm old, bro.

I'll be emotional, dog.

Like you hear these stories and then, you know, your eyes just swell up, dog.

Like.

Come on, bro.

Just

because you start living more life and you start seeing more stuff in your life, dang.

Life do be life.

And when you was a kid, you don't you don't hear as many stories.

Look,

you know.

But then it like so for me, right?

I know we got to go to break.

It makes you have the it makes you question yourself, like, what are we doing with our time?

Right now with our life, what are we doing with our time?

We got people who time will be and taken away from them.

Wrongfully,

but the essence for sure.

And they still make time to believe in themselves and vision the life that they want to have despite of the circumstances.

And to hear him say, man, I learned how to read in there.

I learned how to write.

I learned how to 14 fail.

14.

You were thinking the environment like that it would be hard to even find the motivation to you know what I mean do those things so That is a strong-willed person

Don't go anywhere y'all when we come back.

We gonna wrap this Friday up man, and uh Yeah, man, um, I'ma leave y'all to go to this break and just think about what are we doing with our time?

When we come back we're gonna close out on this conversation.

What are we doing with our time?

The time is right now.

Don't go anywhere.

We'll return right here on the award-winning 10170 Truth.

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What up y'all welcome back to the award winning 101 70 truth live from the American Family Assurance Studios Says Ray nitty maybe Shannon DJ brother Z holding us down with the production and sound man That was powerful man.

I ain't gonna lie.

I was very emotional listening to that man Very very emotional listening to that.

It's powerful man.

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There's no extended lunch break today.

Yesterday was the final cheer for that.

We had a good time.

I learned a lot.

We grew a lot, man.

But let's, uh, let's close this thing out, man.

Let's close this thing.

I was

just going, I was coming Monday.

I just, I had my days off.

I ain't got a watch on I looked at my

We asked you for two months Shannon the stick around

now you coming Monday gonna be this it was gonna be the Monday one So

you gonna be a studio on Monday

I was I was planning on flying here.

I was gonna

use gonna surprise us.

We didn't even know you

it was a surprise

But you know what, it'd be like that.

We got time, you know, just if somebody need a feeling or anything.

But before we get into that, we got Teresa on the line.

Teresa, how you feeling?

I'm feeling okay.

I'm enjoying your show today.

That's fine.

I was just going to say, when people are thinking about like a purpose, you know, like how to live this more meaningful life, I always look at it like there's always somebody that can mentor me, somebody who's in a place in their life

where I would like to be or could be or just they're insightful.

The wisdom would be like helpful to my life.

And then there's always somebody who I know who's struggling who like, oh, you got me a job or you told me like where I can find jobs or maybe you tell me how to get some help on my rent or like whatever.

And so if I think that we're that's just how life is designed.

Like there's people in different places.

And if we look at ourselves and think

I can always be helped in some sense.

Not saying we're out here struggling, but even if somebody told you about this place to buy a house, anything.

So we're always in a place where somebody mentored us and then we're always in a place to help someone.

That's if you're open

that, but it just makes the world like a better place because the people that you're helping, it was like a gang changer for them.

It's like life changing.

And then when somebody mentors you or give you the plug or something or however you want to look at it, you're like, dang, that's not made a difference in my life.

So it just puts us in a better place.

And then we're always working.

It's kind of like it's always kind of making the world a better place.

So that's

agree

with that.

That's that is great advice.

And I do believe.

Have a good one.

Thank you.

But

no that

is great advice and I always try to look at life that same way and just like what she said if we all thought like that and just kind of changed our mindset no matter where you are you can help somebody that may need resources that may need motivation that may need some type of

Advice from you like people I think a lot of times people don't realize like you are always in the position to put somebody onto something They may not know and then somebody else is always in a position to help you grow So that is that's that's how you build communities up and spreading that type of information even her spreading that information You don't know how many people may be listening to this show and be like, you know what?

I'm gonna try that out today.

I got some advice that could help somebody else.

And I know somebody that might be able to help me out.

If everybody thought like that, we would all be very, very, very far ahead.

Yep.

100%, man.

Today was a beautiful show.

It was a beautiful week, actually.

The last few weeks actually been super beautiful.

I've been having a good time with the Lunch Break show.

We've been growing something super...

Amazing here, y'all.

We've been growing a real family right here with our lunch break crew.

And, you know, it just made me want to emphasize the caller with O'Fonzo.

Just makes me want to emphasize how important it is.

What are we doing with our time?

At any minute, it could get snatched away from us.

And it doesn't have to be death.

It doesn't have to be death.

It could be a disability, something that happens.

It could be an accident.

It could be wrongfully incarcerated.

That's right.

He said he was in solitary confinement for five years, family.

Think about that, Shannon.

Five years as a teen, you in solitary confinement.

And what stood out was he acknowledged the suicidal thoughts he had to go through.

He acknowledged the depression he has to go through.

He acknowledged all the things he had to mentally deal with.

And he said, you know what?

This is the time I got.

What am I going to do with it?

What am I going to do with that time?

He said, I'm going to make sure I learn how to read.

I'm going to learn how to

write and to navigate those thoughts and feelings as a child,

as a child, as a child.

and to have the mental fortitude to be like, despite my solitary confinement and the environment and the surroundings that I'm in, I could imagine something greater than this right now.

With no end in sight, Shannon, I could imagine this is temporary.

From 32 years.

32 years of his life, Shannon.

Wrongfully taken away from him to and I don't know if this was by design But to have now 32 acres That you doing this work on and you showing people like this.

This is what I did with my time So it makes me quit it makes me pay attention to myself What am I doing with my time when I'm down about something I go sit and dwell in it or I'm going to imagine

a different situation and actually put the work in.

Because he didn't, there's two things that I want to leave us with.

He didn't just sit and dwell in the darkness.

He made his mind up first what my life is going to look like.

And then the other thing was while in that darkness, that solitary confinement, he was doing the work on himself.

He was doing the work.

So I'm gonna leave us with this today Shannon.

I'm gonna let you close us out Shannon had a powerful week too by the way.

We got clap it up for Shannon man Shannon Shannon delivered this week man.

She might have attacked my Culture and my accent

I did not attack it.

We enjoyed

it.

She did.

I ain't going to start no fight.

We just

wanted other people to be able to enjoy your culture.

But you know, I guess

Tom

Hankson can't enjoy Jamaican

culture.

No, he definitely can't.

But what I will say, enjoy your time.

Enjoy the time that you have and make it count.

The time is right now.

We don't know what tomorrow is, y'all.

We don't know what it would bring.

But what we do know is what we have right now.

Be mindful of our time, y'all.

I always say to

you,

if we change our mind, we could change our lives.

That's all I got, man.

Shannon, take us home.

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