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Yeah.
It was a good weekend for real.
Like, you know, it was supposed to be a chill weekend, but a friend ended up coming from out of town.
You know how they go, oh, I'm in town.
It's like, all right, now we got to hang out.
I got called into my other job.
I thought I had four days off in a row.
I was, listen, I was going to be a happy camper.
That didn't happen, but.
You don't?
Ain't no exposure until I'm married.
Yeah, I ain't do much this weekend, Shannon.
I said I was gonna be outside, but I was very much not outside.
I did not like, well, I was outside to extend.
Let me say that.
I was outside to extend.
Kicked it with my sister and her husband.
They was in town, you know, from Poland and whatnot.
Big jest.
So
And, you know, she's she she does flying.
So.
You know, she's frequently in and out of the state.
But yeah, man, kicked it with them.
And then Saturday, me and Amanda went out to go check out the labyrinth.
I don't know if you're familiar with that.
What is that?
It's a movie, man.
I guess it was a movie that was big around her childhood.
And it was a labyrinth.
David Bowie is in it.
And it is, uh, uh, is it John Henson?
Not John Henson, but some something Henson, dude, they make the Muppets and Fragile Rock and all of that.
So it was, uh, they had, they was redoing the music with the live band.
So that was, um, that was my, um,
but what's crazy is like I don't know if it's an ADHD thing because I have heard it is but like energy drinks typically don't do nothing for me It just gives me that placebo effect, but like I was dead serious taking that
after drinking the energy drink easily, like I can go to sleep still.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just like the placebo effect.
I like to convince myself it's working or I just drink enough until I get heart palpitations and that'll keep a girl up.
experienced crying, but if it keeps me up, maybe I need to cry.
I feel like Ray told
Shots out
in the
what the comment was.
I was like, they complimented Ray over it.
Kicking his feet.
The curtains.
But we got an interesting menu today, Shannon.
We do got an interesting menu.
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So running through our menu for today, right?
When we come back from break, we're going to talk about the brewers.
Take a two zero lead, all two zero lead in the the not the World Series, but the National League divisional series.
So we took a two zero lead.
Then we also want to talk about a Milwaukee story, man, a runner that was running in the lakefront.
Half marathon was rushed to the hospital.
And we just want to give some updates on that.
I think the person if I'm not mistaken, they later on.
I'm passed away.
So we want to just share about that.
Then there was an incident where some formula was swapped with another substance from a gas station.
So we're
going to talk about that.
had a
People in America being lazy came up and I think a lot of his followers and fans felt offended and we don't get into a why and what was exactly said and What the backlash is from that?
So that's what's going on with what's papa wishing it at 1230 You don't want to miss it because it gets into a conversation about why black people were so offended at what he said This
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Speaking of favorite crew in the brew, Shannon.
You the brewers go up to an O on the San Diego Padres.
Clap it up.
We on our
way.
my happiness be
We two.
We is it to win?
Yeah, we two wins away.
We got to win four, huh?
I thought it was you have to win three.
All these sports in these different series are changing.
But yeah, man.
And a 22 year old just became a Milwaukee legend overnight.
All right.
What was that?
I'm reading the wrong thing, Shannon, my bad.
So it was the bottom of the line.
Oh, wow.
Now, I don't know where that came from, to be honest, but you was just in there.
But so just setting up the game, man, it was an exciting game because it went down to the wire.
Brewers was down, y'all.
We was down if I'm not mistaken, like three to the San Diego.
We was down to our last out to if I'm not mistaken, walk somebody.
Bases is loaded.
Bases is loaded with two outs.
All right.
And the 20 that's the 22 year old.
OK.
That's the 22 year old 22 year old kid named Jackson Truro That's the guy that was up the bat that hit the ball that drove in the game tying and game winning run.
All right, so Okay, if you didn't see it, it was it was very exciting.
You know baseball is my sport too.
That's um, that's what we played predominantly back home in the islands So, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm a baseball guy shit
We played against a lot of, like, the other neighborhood islands.
more.
Football is insane.
We played football as well.
She had a foot.
Foot is crazy.
But yeah, we... What accident is that even?
Football.
literally just every
gem together
Baseball was mine of choice, but the Brewers went up too old, man.
So it was a great, great, great sight to see, to see us drive that in in the last inning, going into San Diego now.
Hopefully we sweep this series, man.
I want my lick back against the Dodgers.
The homie DJ era was texting me.
Did the Dodgers lose yesterday?
They had to because he ain't texting me talking crazy.
He didn't text me talking crazy, Shannon.
So I gotta see.
That's
lost to the Braves.
He was keeping it humble yesterday, huh?
Dodgers lost to
That's what he was talking about, man.
But, um, before we get into, um, everything else, Shannon, we had some sad news from Sunday morning.
Uh, a runner in the Milwaukee lakefront half marathon was rushed to the hospital during the race and later passed away.
The Milwaukee County.
Yeah, the Milwaukee County Medical Examiner's Office confirmed it Sunday.
Organizers aren't releasing any details, citing privacy.
But they put out a statement deeply saddened by this loss and grateful to the medical personnel, first responders and volunteers.
So it was more than 6,000 runners that took part Sunday, full and a half.
Marathon that was seven from 7 a.m.
That is started and they ran over the home bridge and this comes about a month after the triathlete a triathlete died at an iron man 70 miles 70.3 miles in Madison So we don't know the runner's name yet, but somebody's family is grieving today who's expected to be celebrating a finish line.
So let's keep them y'all in our thoughts and
You know, just just pray for peace for everyone that is dealing with that.
So we just wanted to give that update, Shannon.
Moving the menu along, Shannon.
So we have a situation at a gas station.
All right.
The formula that wasn't formula, Shannon.
All right.
That's insane, actually.
But what?
Now, no, this won't make your blood boil.
Milwaukee mother.
Today, folks needed formula for her three month old late at night.
Nothing open.
So her partner ran to a gas station there, 60th in capital.
Next morning, the baby's still fussy.
Folks looked at the bottle and the milk looks wrong.
Sluggish out.
Looks sluggish off.
And it was foggy.
She said it was a formula.
It was flour.
They rushed the baby to the hospital for infant poisoning.
Thankfully, the baby suffered constipation and is OK.
But think about that a three month old and just in flower from a sealed looking can.
All right.
Oh my goodness, that's horrible.
Man, so the family took the container back to the gas station.
How did flower get in the formula?
Can it is still unclear?
The gas station owner told Fox six the state is investigating.
He reported it to WIC since he is a WIC vendor and he couldn't comment further.
The family sent a sample to FDA and they're waiting on results.
All right.
The gas station obviously wouldn't be a person's first choice to have to go and give food But you also think something as important as babies food would be something that is sealed You wouldn't assume anything else, you know, and then it's super It's super scary because at three months old like their nutrients and like all those
Vitamins and stuff matter.
The
then
other
Babies keep getting sick.
Folks admitted she didn't check whether the can was sealed.
Her advice now is it only takes a couple seconds to make sure the seal is on there and if not take it back even if the baby is upset.
She says formula is expensive.
Times are hard.
She said and that's exactly why somebody ran this scam because desperate parents will buy it anywhere they can.
So.
I don't know like you would think if somebody's even returning
Baby food like the the responsibility will be on the store to be able to check like you can't return shoes without them flipping them upside down and looking inside And you told me I could return baby food and easily just get it thrown back on the show.
So I don't know I'ma say that right it might not even be a return it might be where this gas station owner got the formula from
And respectfully.
Respectfully, this ain't no shot to to to nobody or anybody's business or no business in particular.
But how many times have we seen, you know, folks go grab something from a woodmines and go throw it in a corner store or go grab some of these and go throw it in a.
Gas station.
got
a
right
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Oh, you got your footage.
All right, cuz we about to get it to what's popping with Shannon and if you live under the rocky a rock you probably missed it But for the most part everybody is seeing what's happening online with the actor DaVinci.
Okay, so Let's get into this conversation because it's got a lot of people going back and forth online DaVinci the actor that a lot of people know from BMF
is facing backlash after comments that he made during that appearance on cam newton's funky friday podcast the conversation centered around something that has already been a sensitive topic for years foreign born actors or foreign born black actors i should say being cast to portray black american characters and during that conversation da Vinci started talking about work ethic discipline in the way
People are raised in America.
DaVinci, who was born in Brooklyn and comes from a Haitian family, talked about how independent he had to be growing up.
He compared that experience to what he sees in America today and suggested that Americans have become too comfortable, too dependent, and in some cases just incompetent, basically.
So.
This is where the internet kind of said, hold on now.
Don't go anywhere.
They basically said a lot of black Americans are feeling like the conversation went from talking about acting and casting decisions to surround.
to sounding like black Americans are losing opportunities because they simply don't work hard enough.
Right.
And that touched a nerve for a lot of people.
The criticism isn't about one word or one clip.
A lot of people feel like his comments play into a very old argument that immigrant communities sometimes work harder than black Americans, while black Americans are lazy and title or unwilling to sacrifice.
That's that's pretty much how.
the black community is taking this right now.
And people are saying that it completely ignores history and circumstance.
When we talk about black Americans and opportunity, especially in entertainment, people are pointing out that you have to, that you also have to talk about access industry connections and who the casting director, directors, directors believe is marketable.
acting schools, representation, and Hollywood's own preferences.
So critics are basically saying you cannot reduce the complicated issue to they just work harder, right?
And then there's another layer to this, right?
If a movie or television show is telling a specifically black American story like slavery, Jim Crow laws, civil rights movement, inner city life, hip hop culture, southern black culture, some people already feel strongly that black American actors should have a fair opportunity to tell those stories.
So when somebody says foreign actors may be getting getting those roles because they are more disciplined,
People hear that black Americans are responsible for losing their own stories because they're not working hard enough and Yeah, that's that's why that reaction has been so strong on the internet and people are flat out calling it anti-black right because he does mention a few times in the interview that He was born in the US, but obviously he was raised by a Haitian family
That is from Haiti and obviously he's proud of his roots, but he made that very clear as well So I think we have to be fair about what Da Vinci was saying as well right if you listen to the broader conversation He wasn't only talking about black Americans.
He was also criticizing American culture in general He talked about convenience parenting independence and the fact that some people grow up without being pushed to become self-sufficient
And there is definitely people online who are defending him.
And they're saying he's not calling black Americans lazy.
He's just saying American culture has become too comfortable.
And some people also agree the larger point that upbringing can affect the discipline that he described.
Now, if you grew up in a household where survival is taken seriously, where your parents immigrated here and they feel like they have no safety net, it can absolutely shape the way you approach work and your work ethic.
That part of the conversation is real, but the problem is the context, because once you put that argument inside a conversation about black Americans losing acting roles and foreign-born actors being able to take those roles, some people just hear differently, right?
So I guess the question here, and I guess the question here is, are we able to talk about work ethic without ignoring systemic issues?
Right?
That's one question and then I guess for you Ray cuz I know I know you over there itching to talk
So I
feel like this is definitely something you can speak to or something you can have like a a different perspective on because you didn't get here till 98 Which you may very clear
So I think that's where the conversation gets interested.
Because yeah, some people do get too comfortable in parenting and discipline matters.
And some people may need to work hard, but it can also be true in certain industries that there's a bias and there's barriers because of the structures.
Who gets those opportunities and why?
So.
Do you guys think DaVinci was making a valid point about American culture and people being too lazy or too comfortable?
Or do you think he crossed the line by bringing that argument into a conversation about black Americans losing roles that represent black American culture?
What you think Ray I
This is a very interesting conversation, right?
Right because I literally had to go and watch The part where he was talking about that in particular right the work ethic and America and so forth right I literally had to go and rewatch it a few times because in my opinion like I
When he was talking about work ethic Like from what I remember Cam asked the question do you think?
You know like British actors are taking American roles.
It was never specified about black Americans or anything like that never even identified or said black people were lazy, right?
So I understand how
We as black Americans can take it as like yo you talking about black people because you know later in the conversation you continue to talk about black specific movies and black specific roles he talked about you know What was that?
What's does the the joint with with Spencer from any played football?
just talking about what was it called not home All American you know, okay was talking about that and then he was talking about you know like snowfall, but he said that he thinks that a director or somebody who's casting will look at the
you know they feel like maybe the the the British actors are still more in locked in and going to the schools of for arts and and theater is still a thing versus in America we're pushing this uh let's go to break Shannon and then we'll come
back and get back into the conversation.
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And we are still in what's popping with Shannon.
I think this is going to take us the rest of the show to actually get through, in my opinion.
But, um... Yeah.
Yeah, Shannon, give them, give the folks that are just joining us.
If you just getting in your cars, if you just punched in on your lunch break, you know, Shannon, get him a rundown of what we're discussing right now on what's popping with Shannon.
So what we're talking about is the actor from BMF Da Vinci.
He also just came off of a Tyler Perry movie.
Why did I get married again?
He sat down with Kim Newton and they had a conversation about
I think the conversation started with, I want to say it started with him discussing black roles going to black people that are foreign, right?
And why that's happening and things of that nature.
And DaVinci started to talk about how he was raised by immigrant parents, even though he was born and raised in the United States.
He was lucky that his parents was able to install like a good work ethic.
long story short.
And then he went into how he felt like most Americans are incompetent and how their baby and lazy and things of that nature.
And they kind of rubbed a lot of black people the wrong way because it felt anti-black
to a
So a lot
He's been facing a lot of black backlash online and we're basically getting into why we think that happened and whether or not what he said was was bright or not so we just Wrapped that up and Ray was getting into what he felt, you know, because Ray got here in 1998 Like his point of view is very important here.
So he was just kind of explaining that me would
you know, he thought about that conversation.
It's one that people in a higher position, it's hard for them to trust it.
Like, I don't know if you've been seeing it.
Like, I feel like one generation, our generation, and what we're seeing is like, humans are becoming like more incompetent.
And America is like, pause it
real quick, brother Z. So the question, what we didn't hear is a question that Cam asked right before that, okay?
And the question he asked was, is American roles being lost to more of these British actors?
It wasn't, never asked about black specific roles, all right?
He was asking about American roles in general.
So go ahead, brother
Z, continue.
Continue.
Like we baby.
Our kids like in a way that is like unheard of I mean you got people that's 25 30 35 like I mean these are kids They can't do their own laundry.
They can't wipe their own ass like for me.
I'm fortunate I was born here, but my parents aren't from here my grandma raised me She didn't speak English.
So at home was Haiti and in the real world, you know, I'm saying that it was like America, but I Like I had like work ethic.
I was determined like I started
I could take care of myself like fully at like eight years old.
But in America, no shade to you guys, the way the culture have like moved majority of its citizens is like, you're just incompetent for a really long time.
Do you think that that's like, that's a country thing or a personal thing?
I think that's, I think this country promotes that.
I think, I think, because this country, this country promote, I don't think it promote like.
Like us like really like being able to think critically and being like hard workers being able to think outside the box, right?
And usually people don't don't get me wrong other countries They have their things too, but I just think like we're just more bait like when you're in America You have such a lack of exposure on what's happening outside of the world because you don't got to care about any other country But every other country is like I want to be America.
We got the best football best basketball best rappers best actors best So it's just like they're like yo keep it up with us But it's like you don't need to get what you're gonna keep up with the XFL.
Can I disagree?
You think, oh my goodness,
That's a good place to stop.
And then we'll get back into more of that interview as well, right?
So, from that channel, right?
And I understand more stuff was said in the past.
People are bringing more things to the light that may show or even bring home the point that what a lot of folks are saying, right?
So beyond Beyond I'ma go.
Let's just go down the path of saying Everybody's correct in how they feel cool, right?
No, no rebuttal about no rebuttal about that.
I'm that's not what I'm I'm here to discuss, right?
but after We you know have shared how we felt about it.
Is there some truth in what he's saying about how America has
pushed its society to become Which he didn't say black Americans.
He says America has pushed its citizens its people to become More and he goes more into it.
Um, so I just want to make sure we're on the same page with that right there
long
but at the end of that clip I feel like Kim Newton did a good job of bringing in the conversation of foreign black people and the black people conversation I think at the end he asked like or he brought up the fact he said you know
Some foreign black people think they are better than American black people
What do
you think about that after that was said so it kind of paints a fuller picture of what had just been said before and he literally says yeah I mean is it right?
But yeah, I know that's how people feel about that and then he starts talking about how he's proud of Haiti and Haiti was the original 300 story
and all these
They spoke on.
like after a while they spoke on specific black roles.
But the question was just phrased in the beginning as just roles in general.
And respectfully at the end of the clip, he said, yes, there is this thing where, you know, you have immigrants that feel that, you know, they are different from...
black Americans or better than and so forth, right?
He acknowledges that, yes, that is a thing, right?
But he also did acknowledge that he does not agree with that.
He thinks he's stupid.
He literally says, I don't agree with that.
I think that's, I think it's wrong.
He's literally said, I think it's wrong.
And beyond everything else, right?
I want us to have this conversation because we get in this space where we separate ourselves so much from one another, whether it's immigrants.
uh having a conversation separating themselves from black americans or black americans separating themselves from immigrants and I understand that you know as black americans we will feel a way if you have immigrants trying to say things about a black american experience or the state of black americans without paying homage to what past black americans had to go through for
even any of the immigrants experiences to even be possible here, right?
Acknowledge all of that.
But at what point, who can we have this conversation with?
Because me as somebody from the Caribbean, I've been in numerous conversations where we're trying to talk about, you know, the black experience and so forth.
And me as a black Caribbean, a born American citizen,
You know, I was still told that, well, you ain't you even had the same real in word experiences.
You ain't even a real in word because you was born in the Caribbean.
So you can't even really talk to us about that.
So it's like, at what point do we like stop separating ourselves and really have a conversation about what he's talking about?
Because further down, he talks about how America has.
pushed all of these, what they quoting as efficiency, but really just making life easier.
And we've literally said America is dominant society down.
We've literally said that.
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Oh, I'm feeling spectacular.
I probably would have tread lightly because I know he said Milwaukee is dumb and everything down.
But this is the same America that gave him the great opportunity to be an actor.
You know, I understand, you know, he said, you know, sometimes people are lazy or, you know, but keep in mind, he was raised with his grandmother, right?
So where's your daddy at?
Why you're giving these one tools and these ABC one, two, three years.
And this is why I know my ABC.
You know, sometimes when people get these glorious opportunities to become something great,
They feel they have done something miraculous as they should.
But don't get too besides yourself.
Because even though you're smelling yourself, you still gotta wash your hands after you do number two.
Okay?
Because you know, in America, most black fathers are in their child's life.
Where's his daddy
So I'm just saying because he said he was raised by his...
grandmother, but you want to throw gas at people in the United States of America.
Most black men and black daughters can take care of themselves by the time they were eight with the daddy in the house.
So while you're saying this, where was America the same America that gave you something profound to be who you are and you grew up.
with your grandmama who raised you to take care of
Let me ask you a question, Al, right?
Can I ask you a question?
So I agree with everything that you said, right?
If it wasn't for this, and keep in mind, he was born in New York, so this is an American talking about American issues.
Let's start there.
He just has Haitian parents and Haitian background.
So he has some different cultural experiences and exposures.
Um, but taking everything that we say, yes, everything you say is right.
Be humble, tread lightly, be thankful for these black American experiences that afforded you the opportunity to even be in these acting jobs, right?
100%.
But does that take away from the fact that I, I know you've called here and talk about.
how lazy some of our people are in the community.
The work ethic got people on jobs.
The work ethic got people in our communities.
Go
ahead.
I understand, but those are not Black people I'm talking about.
Those are other kinds.
But that's the thing.
So here's the thing.
We like to separate ourselves.
We like to separate.
But at what point is it not wrong to acknowledge that, OK, this is still a part of our society, a part of our people, whether we want to claim them or not or identify them or not.
It is still people that are part of our society that is impacting.
uh, uh, how we, we live, we can say what we want about the, the issues that's going on downtown and separate ourselves from as much of it as possible.
But at the end of the day, the blanket statement is, Oh, black Milwaukee is terrorizing downtown and it's killing business.
But it's not black Milwaukee.
See, that's the thing.
See, you can't, everybody has free will.
Those who choose to use free will, you motivate, you elevate, and talent make them do everything they put their mind to.
Those who lack free will, who choose not to, who lack the determination.
Those who choose not to save themselves are those you let rot like a dead dog on a Mississippi dirt road, because they're not taking the initiative and the fire and desire that works in the body and soul and spirit that's given to them by the ancestors to be something great.
you have to leave them sit on the side of a road like a blown-in
So what percentage of the community is that?
And I'm only using Milwaukee as an example because this is where I'm at.
This is what we know.
What percentage of Milwaukee are you saying we need to leave on the wayside and just...
and separate ourselves from that even more because what's happening is we've separated ourselves so much we can't communicate with each other without having discourse.
We can't we can't we can't even criticize each other about what we can improve on or whatever without having discourse.
And we get so offended.
I'm a land is playing Alan.
I'm going to let you respond.
I promise we get so offended by, you know, somebody.
highlighting something that we can improve on as a community.
And we hold on to that offense, but I don't ever see us really organized around the solution.
Or what does that look like?
Because I've yet to hear anybody say that what he says was wrong.
I've seen everybody say like, yeah, he might be right, but that's not for him to talk about.
He's not one of us.
I'm listening.
I'm pausing for
you now.
Oh, oh, all I'm saying is.
Those are the ones that use as an example to hold the resources.
You can't save nobody who don't want to save themselves.
what I mean?
I understand you say in the community, you can do anything to try to help people.
But if they choose not to help them, you have to let them ride.
I can speak to my own.
I have tried to help, help, help, help, help.
And I said, I can't help you no more.
So I got to let you rock.
Because I can't put good money behind bad money.
I cannot help uplift you and try to get you to the other side if you don't want to use your own free will.
So you're going to have to ride.
Your stomach might have to come out your back.
You might have to walk the street many times.
But there's only so much you can do yourself.
They got to save themselves.
You can't save somebody who don't want to save themselves.
So for those people who choose not to, and you're constantly trying to give them resources, you're trying to take them the resources.
You're trying to put them in predicaments.
If they choose not to take the hand, if they choose not to take the wheel, you gotta let them rock, point blank, simple.
Because if they call on Jesus, Jesus sure ain't gonna beat you.
He ain't gonna talk to you neither.
Now you might talk to you when your body gets right in front of the inside and you got mattress coming at your nose and your eyes is getting cloudy and they're about to put the superglue on your rectum and hit you with that environment fluid through your clavicle through the top of your shoulder.
But it's only so much you can do.
And that's who they use to hold the resources from Black neighborhood.
So I think it's easy to I Think where where I'm at with it is it's easy for people that Come from other places to come here and just lump a bunch of people together because I feel like that's what they're doing Separating themselves from wherever they're from for a better life, right?
So they come here and then oh well
Most Americans are this but you can't do that.
I think what I was saying was like Yeah, there may be some issues within our community, but there's issues within every community There's issues within every place that you're gonna go and being like well, I'm not like these people but you're literally here with us just Isn't fair I feel like it's not a fair conversation to try to have and be like oh well I think everybody's lazy and I think everybody's this and everybody's that but I'm different
because I was raised by XYZ.
Everybody feels like they different, you know what I'm saying?
So I just think he was speaking from a place of arrogance and I don't, I don't know, it just didn't sit right with a lot of people.
And I think because of the full picture, what he said in the clip that we played wasn't necessarily wrong, but at the same time, because of the full picture of like other interviews he's had and other interactions that people have seen him had, it really feels like it's coming from one of those places of I'm not black, I'm Haitian.
That's what it kind of felt like to a lot of Americans.
I think
so my experience We talk about separation like all immigrants like to separate themselves and say that they better I have experience and I'm not even in a I'm not even an immigrant family.
I am an American citizen You feel me from when I first got here black Americans and I'm only saying black Americans because we are you know
Changing the conversation to that because that's what black Americans took it out as a attack against black America when I first came here black Americans made sure that they separated me from them From whether it was called African booty scratcher to oh he talked like this to oh go sit over there with the Africans and all these other things This is my first experience into the country and I am American
Sure, I have a Caribbean experience a different cultural experience, but I'm still a damn black American and then when we come back I want to get into like what did that separation look like from black man as somebody who and I've always said we I've never separated myself from the the the black experience even in conversations.
I remember
vividly a conversation I was having with some of the homies.
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It's a very interesting conversation, Shannon.
I knew what's popping with Shannon was gonna take the whole show.
I knew it.
We coulda start what's popping with Shannon at the beginning at the show today.
You ain't charged.
I want to hear you say that.
You know, say it.
But you know how black Americans is.
You don't start nothing on time.
But here you go.
That's a black Americans problem.
No, I'm just having a little.
I thought it was us, right?
It is.
Now it is us.
But y'all, y'all separated y'all sales for me.
Y'all separate now.
Let me.
But in all honesty, right?
Let's acknowledge it.
Let's acknowledge it.
Yes.
There is this thing that immigrants do where they feel like, oh, you know, black Americans are a certain way.
I don't agree with it at all either.
No, never have I came over here as somebody from the Caribbean and be like, I'm not like those blacks or those black Americans do this or blah, blah, blah.
But as somebody who grew up in the Caribbean as a whole, I have seen how America
This isn't just unique to just black America.
How America as a whole from the experiences I have, I'm not going to say the vast majority.
I don't know the vast majority.
I know the experiences in Milwaukee.
OK.
And in the Virgin Islands, we were more.
Good morning.
Good afternoon neighbors.
You go check on your neighbors.
You go do this.
We just literally talked on this show about people living next door on top of each other, below each other in a four family, not knowing the neighbor at all ever.
We don't communicate with each other.
We as a as a country.
As a country, not even just as black Americans, sure we had the Jim Crow that messed us up even more, but we were taught not to trust each other.
We were taught to fear each other.
We were taught not to build with each other.
As a community, we know this, but every aspect of trying to have this conversation, I am, because I guess whatever I say strikes a nerve and I never separate myself from the conversation.
I even say I'm part of the problem as well.
And it's like, well, you, you ain't even had a real Negro experience in America.
You from the Caribbean.
Huh?
So it's like, I've even, Shannon, I've even had black Americans tell me, like, I don't even know anything about slavery because it didn't exist in the Caribbean.
Whereas like, what type of slavery would you have when the real history is like some of the most vicious forms of slavery was what took place in the Caribbean?
The most vicious I
whatever else because you have black Americans I want to separate their selves from black Americans because they feel like
the closer proximity to whiteness makes you better a lot of people feel that way so you even get people that feel like oh well because this person is like how do i explain because i know you mentioned like the bullying that you did witness coming here which it may it makes sense because even if you're darker skinned whether or not you're from here or not a lot of people
would be bullied and it's not fair but it's also within our own community it's just colorism in general that's what it is and then they have that layer of oh you're not even from here so they have another thing to pal on so I do think it's not just the fact that oh you're not from here we're bullying you it's just like a thing that a lot of Americans do where colorism is a thing still and it's very live and well and even though people like to sweep it under a rug it's very obvious
And then you also have that layer of... I saw a comment pop up.
I was like, hold on now.
Look, we do got to get into our comments as well.
But I wanted to also mention like when people tell you like, oh, like you're not from here so you don't understand the American experience, right?
The black American experience.
I think they're speaking from a place of knowing that a lot of people that aren't black Americans
speak on things that they genuinely don't know about, but you are well versed in this.
So that's not a conversation that I would ever feel like I would have to have with you.
Like, oh, wait, do you know where you're saying this from?
Because you do have a lot of people.
I've had people DM me like, well, what part of Africa are you from?
And I'm like, I'm from America.
They're like, oh, Americans don't ever know what part of Africa they're from.
I'm like, what?
But then there's this thing on TikTok where you see a lot of people that are black, non-Americans.
bringing that up and it's like they are coming from a place that they're not understanding what happened in America and what brought us where we are and then I do understand the frustration when people are telling you like well you're not from here so you can't have an opinion but at the same time I can understand why
Black Americans would be protective of that conversation.
And even as like someone that's fair skin, you get people asking, like, aren't you mixed?
You wouldn't know because half your family probably
We will protect the conversation way more than we actually protect our community We don't want nobody talking about us, but we don't want to go do nothing to actually change the conditions in our community
What I heard him talk about was America's reading rate going down.
He ain't say just a black community rate.
He said America's reading rate is going down.
He says America's mental health is deteriorating.
He says America's economy in itself, people in itself are just decreasing.
And we have shared these stats.
It's not like we haven't shared these stats on this show.
So if he's not the messenger, and I'm not the messenger, who's the messenger that could have this conversation with the Black American community where we don't just get offended by somebody calling out our, like, yeah, it's like, we want people to, like, don't call it out without acknowledging what we had to go through.
Like, I know what we had to go through.
I understand that systemic stuff exists and part of the reason why we're still in this place.
But another large reason is because we have yet to really get past the separation conversation and really organize as a community.
I don't care if it was black Americans or whatever, we separate ourselves so much.
I don't ever hear people saying I'm German American.
I'm Chinese American.
I'm Italian American.
I don't hear them super categorical, but ours, we separate by that.
Then we separate by religion.
Then you light skin.
It's like, damn.
We don't got no type of together that everything that we can to to try to have some sort of together conversation we use to separate us and Further drives the wedge of people that look like us whether we want to to claim them or not Because at the end of the day the outside world is looking at all of us as the same until they realize if we have an accent or not and even then
What's the issue?
We still got these issues in our community that we can't talk about because somebody gonna get offended because somebody that's dark skin said something about the light skin community or somebody light skin Or you know dark people be like oh back in the day you would have been in the house anyway feel nigga So it's like we don't get no work done
And I keep hearing about how we feel right here in our community about the state of our community.
jobs that I've had, like nine to five jobs, I probably am the only black person or I'm probably number two black person.
So I do understand how it looks when you're working with people, you're doing just as good of a job, but for some reason,
they still associate you or feel like they need to comment on the black community.
Well, yeah, because you're not like the other ones.
And it's
I know there's many educated people that come from exactly where I come from.
So when you hear things like that from outside of the community, you're uncertain that is coming from a place of like, well, let's bring other people up.
Or is it coming from a place of let me lump everybody together and you're just like this, this one in a once in a lifetime black person that
magically appear.
If that makes sense.
But it looks like we need to start packing this up and head over to break.
And then we'll be
Yeah.
So like I said, I do understand people protecting those conversations because you don't know where people are coming from and they could easily turn into like, see, I told you all of them are the same and all of them are lazy.
when you're not having those conversations with people that actually do want to change the negative things that are happening in our community.
So we can acknowledge, yeah, there are some bad things, but I don't ever want to have that conversation with somebody that's focused on proving that that whole community is messed up and the whole community is bad.
We are so overly sensitive.
We don't want to hear the truth about ourselves.
Let's be clear.
We don't want to hear the truth about ourselves.
We don't want parents don't want to hear them say, hey, you need to go take care of your kids.
You need to stay out of the club and because the kids is burning the house down.
We we we get so defensive, Shannon.
We get so defensive about our truth and like all you can you can that's my mama.
Can't nobody talk about my mom Like okay, well mom's on the verge of dying because you mad can't nobody talk about her or or highlight like hey You might want to go look at your mom's or go check on your mom's Mm-hmm.
Like I'm seeing the deterioration of our community
the trust of our community.
And we can say, oh, you know, not all black people.
I am looking at Center Street.
I am looking at Burlai.
I'm looking at Locust.
I am looking at I'm looking at it.
We see all the highlights.
And when we come back, man, when we come back, we'll talk more about this conversation right here on the award winning one on one, seven, the truth.
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I'm calling to comment on what you all are saying about us as black Americans
I'm in my 70s, so I've seen a lot of things.
A lot of things happen and a lot of things change.
And I'm from the South.
I was raised to care about how I did things.
I think all of us was.
But the younger generations seem to have gotten away from that.
They do have very poor.
work ethic.
I say that every time I go out of the house.
We forgot to teach our children respect for themselves and for other people.
When I grew up, a neighbor could tell my mother or father what they see me do, that they thought I shouldn't have been doing it and run up a day.
My mother didn't get mad, nor my father.
They disciplined me, whether that took a ass whooping or talking to.
Now you can't even go to your neighbor and say anything to them about their children.
Are you going to be a bitch into your own business?
That are Descent from our ancestors we have fallen from grace We have fallen from grace
very best that I could state.
Thank you once again for calling in.
And that is the that is the best way to put it.
We have fallen from grace as a community and we have become so defensive that we can't even hear.
We can't even hear a conversation.
about ourselves without getting defensive because of the messenger.
And the messenger is important.
I'm not going to say it's not, right?
But once we peel away all our emotions and how a certain messenger made us feel.
And I'm talking about specifically messengers that look like us, whether they separated themselves from us or not.
is the conversation, the conversation that we still need to have, Shannon.
She just said something like, yo, parents didn't even have to be the one to discipline you before you got home.
It would be the neighbor.
And now she said, if you even say something to somebody's kids today,
As a black American, we ain't talking about an immigrant saying it to them as another black American.
She said, you can end up in a ditch.
That's what we talking about.
The lack of putting thought between actions before actions.
That's what I feel is what's being said.
We ignoring the real conversation.
While highlighting and sharing stories Or or reading stories about How terrible it is for we just said Milwaukee is in is printed in a magazine Milwaukee is the worst place to raise one of the worst places to raise black families while being one of the best places to move to We saw
a father, a black American father, tell somebody, man, slow down.
Why are you driving like that?
And shot him and killed him.
And shot him in the face.
Killed him.
That's our community.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, a shot of kill.
How many of those stories we have right here in Milwaukee?
The mother who was shot and killed.
Because somebody was rage road driving another Person but we we we run from these conversations no Shannon and say oh, I don't like how this person said we we too caught up in like how somebody said some tools I Don't like how this person said so I don't like how you talk to me Let's go talk to Steve
Steve from Glendale.
How you feeling, Steve?
I'm doing well.
I just wanted to agree
with that.
Was that Miss Curly that just called?
Yeah, I wanted to agree with her about the work ethic and it has nothing to do with race.
It has something to do with generation.
You know, I work in health care and we'll see some of these younger people, you know, they'll just take a job.
and they'll be calling in sick within a week, you know, on their probationary period.
Just anything like that.
It's just like they expect everything to be given to them, you know?
You mean, I got to do this on this job?
I got to do that?
You know, they just think it's going to be so easy, but life is not easy.
And if you want to do, if you want to have credibility, you have to do a good job.
You don't call it sick unless you're on your deathbed.
yep you know and yeah it's just interesting the difference between the generations and you know at school back in the I'm 65 but I remember the good old days when you got out of line the teacher give you one upside the head yeah and then I go home and I say I'd say to my folks I got one upside the head
And I said, well, you probably deserved it, right?
And I said, yeah.
Same with the neighbors.
Same with the neighbors.
They could discipline you.
You get out of line.
They do tell your folks you're kicking the butt.
And I'm not saying everybody needs to have this type of, you know, energy.
But can't nobody push me from none?
If I choose to let somebody push me out of my spot, and what grace is, and to the point where like, because I am now going to change how I treat humans,
because a certain individual or certain society or certain culture decided like, oh, we gonna keep sticking it to black people.
That doesn't mean we fall from who we were.
That don't mean we forget who we used to be.
like
Yeah, we can make those those We can make those decisions and be like I'm not gonna change why I am because of circumstances or because this is in my environment But I think systemically and how things have been put in place a lot of people don't know and it's one of those things where most people You can't fix a problem when you don't see it as a problem or when you don't know that it's a problem when this is all you've seen and all you know
You don't necessarily know it's an issue or you don't know that there's a different way to live or you don't know that there's other ways.
And I guess it does go back to people accepting advice from other people, people listening to people around them and letting people discipline or step in when they're, you know, when their child needs it.
So, yeah, but it feels like we need to go to break.
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How you feeling, Shannon?
I forgot I needed a mic.
Yeah, I was gonna go right back there, but I was gonna explain why I was going there because in the interview They had a conversation within all of the other things whether they felt like People were trying to be more efficient
And in turn, they are basically making us lazier.
That was also a part of the conversation.
And Steve did chime in and he said he feels like it's a generation thing.
And once again, like, like I can refer to the comment when he said that he felt like we are being pushed from grace.
I do feel like because we're in a capitalistic country.
the big companies, they want to do things more efficient.
They want to do what costs less
And in turn, maybe it is making us lazier with them using AI with them.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they don't need us as much.
And then I feel like we're starting to feel like, well, we don't have to work as hard.
Why are we working this hard?
Like I do get it.
There's a lot of conversations surrounding like the difference in generation.
I feel like you had no choice but to work harder as the older generation.
And now
And we're seeing more and more entrepreneurs with access to like the internet and AI and all these things.
So people are, I think they're, what is it called?
I think they're romanticizing being entrepreneurs over working for other people.
So I think in a sense, I don't know if it's the lazy, but I feel like a lot of people are dreamers and they're like, why am I here?
Why am I putting in 40 hours a week?
So it's a lot of conversations that can happen within that one call.
Like I do believe it's a generational thing, but I also feel like there's reasons behind that that we have to acknowledge.
It is generational.
And as he stated, society has made our.
Citizens more dependent on things like social media, more dependent on things like AI, which genuinely will decrease people's work ethic.
Let's even take AI out of this, right?
Let's go back to the pandemic.
And you do with this as you may.
Everybody had to work from home, right?
Mm-hmm.
Everybody had to work from home.
Soon as the pandemic was over, what was the biggest thing American citizens was complaining about?
Even worse.
So when you had to come in to work, you would take a whole full eight hour day to get the work done.
And now because you at home, you getting it done and you telling me you getting it done in four hours because you at home?
No, because you BSing and you like, you know what?
Let me prioritize getting this work done so I could BS the rest of my time at home.
I've never had a work from home job, like a nine to five job, which those jobs that got moved during the pandemic, I didn't have a work from home job in that sense.
So.
But what I'm saying is that somebody that's worked in office environments.
I think anybody that has ever worked in an office environment can say there is at least half the staff where you don't even know what they do half the day.
Like, do they get their work done?
Sure.
But then they close their office door.
You don't know what's going on.
And I do think the pandemic showed people that there are other options, right?
And.
It naturally feels like, well, if I'm getting the same amount of work done, whether y'all questioning what I'm doing with my downtime or questioning what I'm doing in between time, I can do this same work from home and people want it that more.
So what I'm saying is I do feel like what happened was people start realizing there are other ways to do things and hasn't made us lazier or hasn't made us feel like there's better ways that's more of what I want.
Sure, and it has spoiled us probably, but it doesn't change the work that's getting done in that
I feel like I don't want to hear nobody else complain about customer service through a drive-through.
I don't want to hear people complaining about people
Throwing trash out the window.
Exactly.
I don't want to hear about people complaining about trash out the window no more than because I feel like we can't have a real conversation with us from no matter where we are because we never going to get to the actual work that's needed to be done because our community can't get out of our feelings on how certain conversations make us feel.
And don't let it be a black immigrant that say something out of pocket or say something too much like the truth.
Because then it's gonna add even more separation to what we all have going on here.
But I refuse to act like I don't see what's happening right here in this city.
I refuse to act like I don't hear the complaints of the citizens who complain today orders on a daily basis.
I don't know.
I'm just saying.
Like, who's the messenger then?
Who can have this conversation with us?
Who can we talk to?
Because, like I said, I think it's very hypocritical to be like, oh, this person can't talk about this and blah, blah, blah.
And then just ignore the issues that need to be talked about.
I feel like the bottom line is the messenger should always be somebody that genuinely wants to see change within the community.
That's what I think.
That's what I genuinely feel.
I feel like as long as it's somebody that has shown that they want to see change and it's not coming from a place of just, oh, this place is better than this place, fine.
Because like I said, a lot of people do get offended when they feel like, oh, you're just lumping us all in
i don't think anybody will want to hear like oh well everybody from the north side is horrible when i came from the north side you can't tell me that when i know so many people from the north side that are good people that are hard working like i didn't come from a block where everybody was outside trying to clean up trash out the front yard so i refuse to hear it from somebody that is from brookfield telling me the north side is full of trash and everybody sucks i can't hear that and i can't agree with that because
that wouldn't be true to my experience.
Even though I can't acknowledge, yeah, there's problems and we do need to come together and fix it.
But I'm pretty sure Bergfield got problems that they need to pay attention to.
But when it's coming from somebody from the outside, saying the north side is trash, it's normally from a place of just saying, y'all trash, we're not.
And they don't have no hand in fixing it.
So I feel like for the most part, what we want to hear from is from people that actually do want to help make a change.
That's what I'm saying.
People are not.
Not everyone there's a sector of people that do want to hear but then you have the conversation of like when it gets too sensitive I have the homie to say like man you ain't even a real American Negro you were Caribbean Negro so you can't even talk to us about our real American Negro experience So it's like what I'm saying holds no validity as if I am not experiencing
the American black experience right now as if I'm not seeing kids suffering.
Sure, I'm seeing some of the prosperity of America, but I refuse to ignore the deterioration of our communities.
I'm sorry, that's why I'm at with this shit.
I
mean, and I do feel like that person that said that was wrong But people are all if there's always gonna be somebody that has that Outlook and you can't change that but for the most part I think most of us that do Hear you and see you and know that you care We we don't care where it comes from as long as it's a place of care in a place of I know we are good people and I know we can change and I know there's there's hope but looks like when he's