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The Clancy Juror, Jury Duty & What’s Happening at MPS
Lunchbreak with Ray & Shannon · Mon Sep 14, 2026
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All right.
I fought my whole life.
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Excuse me, Cletus.
Hoppa, who this man?
Yeah, I wasn't doing it.
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Grab your lunch, hit send on that email, and get ready for the best hour of your day.
My way of thinking is that the parents do all they can.
But once the kids leave off that door, whatever have you, they make their own decisions.
I don't care if you 9 or 99.
It's still your decision about the situations that you get involved yourself in.
Look into their taxes.
Look into this.
We talking about elected officials doing backdoor deals and somehow she still wanna blame immigrants.
That's what we talking about right now.
We following the money and you still wanna blame black people and immigrants and welfare and all of these things for policies and backdoor deals that put poor people in worse position.
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Like you said, they want to pad their pockets, but they need a reason to push things through.
And I guess the low-hanging fruit is, OK, well, this is a problem, right?
Y'all want to fix the problem, and they just hope nobody looks into it like, wait, when did food trucks become an
issue?
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Happy Monday.
It's Monday, Shannon.
How
you feeling?
Man, happy Monday.
It's a good.
Monday, you know, you got to stay what is it?
You got to stay positive.
Are
paid for the week.
No,
I heard that too.
And I was like, what happened to the other five T and two?
still wondering what happened to all these tax breaks he was talking about.
We didn't get nothing he
fence.
was dancing through the halls.
He had like two college kids with him.
Like, man,
It was evenful.
But look, that's going to be a story to tell in another time and place.
But I already gave you the rundown.
I was like, I ain't have a car this weekend.
All types of stuff.
I'm like, thanks.
How much can your girl take?
y'all.
Damn.
Where is it?
There's been so much going on.
it so far in the car.
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Yeah, man, we got a lot on the menu today, Shannon.
We got a lot on the menu today.
So.
Real quick, we want to talk about the $5,000.
Trump said he's going to get $5,000.
You know, again.
Again.
To everybody, this is going to be $1.5 trillion in total.
We're going to get into that.
Is this even legal?
So we're going to get into what does that mean?
Right?
Basically bribery.
And then.
Damn Tom Tiffany playing crash.
So we want to talk about what actually happened.
So I'm trying to figure out, damn.
He was traveling to Warsaw or at Warsaw.
He was traveling somewhere.
We'll get into it, but his plane crash, man, a gubernatorial candidate, Tom Tiffany, who was running against David Crowley.
How did plane crash, man?
I saw
When I saw the initial the initial headline it was like oh His plane had to do an emergency landing.
I'm like, okay Maybe that's what they was using to get out of the debate Because you know, they said uh, yeah, they canceled the debate.
He never responded to the debate So now
He was flying in this little small plane.
We'll get into that.
We'll get into that.
We'll keep giving them what's on the menu.
Then we want to get into the Clancy juror.
All right?
The one juror that was holding out.
And we found out the ethnicity of this one juror.
That race.
All right?
Can you guess that race?
Can you guess that race or that ethnicity, man?
Then.
Oh, Shana, you brought this to my attention.
I didn't even catch this, but MPS.
We just want to bring it on your highlight, because if I'm not mistaken, there is a meeting happening today.
If I'm not mistaken about MPS's new great schools committee.
So we'll we'll share with the people about that and what's been going on with that and It's just a little I don't know some irony in a few things here in this committee even down to the name of it, but I Think I want to go to this meeting today.
You said it was today.
We're gonna get into some of the information for that so
I think I want to check that out.
Hey, man, you know, we got, we got to go do some real journalism.
You feel what I'm saying?
Go and get hands on, get dirty with it.
See what's happening going on down there at MPS.
I'm assuming it's at the, uh, the MPS County board, whatever, off of elite.
So we'll see how that goes.
Then the Milwaukee 911 operator controversy.
All right.
Talking about, uh,
the controversy of There was this case where this elderly lady 99 years old if I'm not mistaken called and was telling telling them ladies folks are breaking into my house and They severely ended up beating this elderly lady and since then a couple people have resigned
from the operating 9-1-1 operating system rows and whatnot.
So we'll get into that as well.
What else you got for us, Shannon?
Man, I think we covered pretty much everything.
I don't even think we'll be able to get to all of that.
But also, did you see the High Rocks competition situation that has been basically going viral?
The Lady
High Rocks, you competed.
And it's like a CrossFit style exercise competition.
It's eight separate runs, basically.
And after each run, they do a workout and they have like a workout station.
They do all types of stuff.
It's almost like CrossFit.
You're familiar with
yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
So a woman named Joanne, she went to the competition in Beijing on the 12th, which was, what, two days ago?
And it's been going viral because she
pooped her pants
continued to work out.
Like when I saw it, I thought it was AI.
I was like, nah, no, she didn't.
And then for you to continue on.
Perfect.
But she continued on.
And like, there's so much discourse on the internet about it because some people are like, that's a true athlete to keep going through that push through all the
I see and then some people are like, no, the end is disgusting.
Biohazard.
Like, bro, you know, some of those stations are stations, bro.
Like, yeah.
And then she won first place.
Yeah.
Because the rest of the competitors was too busy.
It's like poop running down her legs.
It's all over the place.
Like.
Yeah, that's sick.
I probably would have fought her after he got her a baby wife.
That is, that is sick.
Ew.
It's a
Don't go anywhere.
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Man, Shannon.
You.
Good, I was just giggling at Jasmine Jazz, but she said, Tom Tiffany show didn't take a flight to the debate.
They be cutting up early, don't they?
No, for real.
Let me just fly around Wisconsin when it is 100% driveable, but OK.
Yeah, so should we play the clip first or should we?
No,
told
Yeah, so we don't get into that.
Let me let me get to this.
So basically our homeboy Trump just about our home five thousand dollars
people
says that
Trump says if the Republicans maintain control of both the House and the Senate in November's midterm elections, he's going to give American adults $5,000 of Trump dividends.
That's what we call it.
Is that even the right word?
Isn't a dividend like small increments of money or something like
Like, remember Usher was giving them Usher Bucks away at the Shirt Bucks.
That's what they did.
I'm like, here you go, here you go, Usher Bucks.
That's what it
Yeah.
So we're going to play it a clip for y'all so y'all can get the gist of what's going on.
And then we can go in and talk more about it.
that there were some folks who don't believe him about those $5,000 dividend checks he wrote on his social media account today.
When I say something, I mean it.
The $5,000 dividend will happen because the people of our country deserve it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Trump say this in February of 2025?
A
Oh, right.
The dose check.
Yeah, that didn't happen.
But wait, there's more.
He also said this in November of 2025, a tariff dividend of at least $2,000 a person, not including high income people, will be paid to everyone again.
No one got a tariff check either.
But when Trump was questioned about promising these checks and then never delivering on them last night, he did not take it
well.
It's
not exactly true that when Trump says something, he means it.
Plus remember, as I already reported, the fact is the president does not have the power to give money to anyone.
The Constitution clearly says Congress is the only branch of our government that has control of the purse.
But the president also keeps talking about and taking credit for those $1,776 warrior dividend checks that he gave military members last year around the holidays.
Do you remember those?
Well, he said it again today as proof that he means he's going to be giving out these $5,000 dividends to now.
It is true that 1776 check did go out to military numbers last year.
But the fact is Trump didn't do that.
Congress approved that money in July of 2025 as a basic housing allowance supplement for military members.
The president basically took what Congress approved and rebranded it into this warrior dividend.
But back to that $5,000 check.
The question is, if we're in the golden age of America and Trump's economic policy.
he just be doing stuff.
he be just doing
In the history of doing it.
That's that's our that's our homeboy over there.
Just that's
that's the cousin we can't claim because he be tripping
cousin too far gone.
No.
said.
just you.
That's not my cousin.
You're not my dad.
legal.
like how like isn't that do like when you do political stuff like you can't even promise them like somebody got in trouble didn't you say earlier for like promising chicken or something like I
feel like I remember when I was younger and Marvin Pratt was running they had somewhere they was like either feeding people chicken or something like that and they made like a big deal about it and I'm like damn but
It just really brought up the question of is this legal?
So I had to do a little research and it says federal law criminalizes payments tied to influencing how people vote.
But courts have historically treated broad policy promises.
Vote for me and I'll cut your taxes.
differently from individualized vote buying, paying a specific person for a specific vote, which sounds like what the hell he was doing.
Said if Republicans remain essentially if you vote for Republicans, you're going to get five G's.
That's literally what he said.
It's literally what he said.
said if they were in control.
He gonna give us five thousand right now.
You got it to give
Send it up
All right.
Yeah.
He never getting trouble.
He does do whatever.
Remember when Elon Musk.
was saying he was handing out one million in checks to voters during the 2025 Wisconsin Supreme Court race.
You remember that one?
So a bipartisan panel found Elon Musk likely broke state law.
They say a state to make sure it is not federal state law by handing out those one million dollar check one million dollars in checks to voters during the 20
25 Supreme Court, they still lost that election, by the way, the Wisconsin elections commission, uh, referred complaints to the Brown County DA who ultimately declined to charge him.
That's interesting.
That shows both that this kind of scheme draws real legal scrutiny and that prosecution is far from guaranteed even when it does.
So that was at the state level.
That
level and then he's saying he'll do this but he can't spend money without legislation passing this and it hasn't been passed so he can't promise us anything and I'm sad because a lot of people is excited about they $5,000
but it's
just like are y'all for real right now
Like,
do y'all not remember, like, all these campaign promises he had just months ago that never happened?
Like, at all?
But somehow he became, like, what, a billionaire?
He was able to pay himself.
So they say a federal deficit already sits at a projected $1.9 trillion for a full-year fiscal scale of 2026.
National debt having crossed 40 trillion.
It's a milestone that we've already covered on this show.
A universal payment at this scale has been estimated at well over $1 trillion by GOP critics within Trump's own party, including Chip Roy.
I don't understand how they're going to get this.
True through.
You see
how that my
ahead.
I think it's the end all be all.
They hear him say stuff and they think, well, it's the end all be all.
And it's crazy to me that people can't even still believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
Like, how are y'all being fooled?
Seems pretty easy to me.
When we come back, y'all, we will get in quickly to.
Has he ever delivered on any of these checks before?
And then after that, we'll talk about Tom Tiffany's plane crash and give y'all some updates on this governor.
And that election don't go anywhere, you all.
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What up, y'all?
Ma'am, stop it.
I'm starving.
You got something on the menu over there?
Look, it's not a peanut butter cookie in sight.
Man, you know what?
You been doing good.
I will say.
It's been a
I started
know
what?
Small steps to big moves, you know?
You got
Man, you feel me?
Man, there's a lot on the menu for today, man.
All right, I got some for him, Shannon.
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Oh, that's
Where is the Trula Vista?
I feel like I've heard that a lot, but I've never seen.
It's a resort.
It might be a chain of Trula Vistas.
So I'm going to check it out, though.
I wouldn't mind.
I like a food voucher.
I like a good food voucher, man.
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We talking about the $5,000 payout, man.
Yet again, you floated a few payments before that.
It's in Wisconsin Dales, because in the need of said.
She said, I'm sure Vista is in Wisconsin Dales.
So.
He floated this idea of this, um, payout out before, like we stated with the doge, uh, payout.
I was supposed to be five G's.
Then it was supposed to be like a tariff payout.
That was supposed to be like an additional 2,500.
So really, bro.
He, he like, you about 12,500 in a hole with the people, man.
You got a lot of making.
Not you.
Not
She just wanted to answer.
Look, she was waiting on that doge check, checking the tariff check and stuff.
He wanted to twist her lips.
Come here.
All right.
So real quick, has he actually delivered on a check like this before?
No universal check has ever gone out.
The pattern per tax foundation, economic economists, economists, Erica York, a $5,000 doge dividend was floated in February 2025 and quietly dropped.
That was loudly dropped because I remember it.
A $2,000 tariff dividend was promised in November of 2025 and also never happened.
This new $5,000 pledge is a third version of essentially the same promise.
The one actual payment that went out was that $1,700 warrior dividend.
So to roughly 1.4 million active duty service members in December, 2025 funded directly through an existing Defense Department program, not doge saving on tariffs.
So.
Bro just been all cap about this bread, that's supposed to, he ain't really gave nothing yet to the American people when you really think about it, man.
I
mean, he gave to his own pocket, so something's
Meanwhile, we feel like we in a, what is it called, a recession?
That's insane.
a gas price go up to like $6 this weekend or something like that.
Seven,
OK.
Do y'all think this?
I've seen questions flowing around like is this a publicity stunt and so forth.
Is he following Donald Trump's patterns?
Because a lot of people thought the whole attempted assassination of Trump was a publicity stunt as well.
Which one?
That's even crazier because it has been a few of them.
But the one where he had to catch up on his ear But that one then he had like he had like half of like plenty people showing up to meetings with patches on their ear humans are very interesting but
So
playing
I definitely want to hear what our cousins gotta say about
Right.
So confirmed by CNN and PR NBC News, Fox News and the Warsaw pilot and review all reporting within the same last 24, 36 hours.
Rep Tom Tiffany, the Republican nominee for Wisconsin governor was aboard a small single engine plane in Beechcraft, Bonanza Saturday night, September 12th, returning from a campaign dinner in Oshkosh.
When the aircraft lost power on approach to Warsaw downtown airport, pilot Len Bolts exact warning per Tiffany, we are going down.
Pull up, pull your seatbelt tight.
About 10 seconds later, the plane hit Lake Warsaw, roughly 70 to 80 miles per hour.
Tiffany described it as a fast moving car crash.
Both men escaped through the passenger door.
The plane began sinking, then swam 100 to 150 feet to a shallow spot where they could stand, waiting roughly 20 minutes for rescuers after calling 911 from on top of the sinking aircraft.
Tiffany suffered cuts above his eyebrow, requiring stitches.
Both he and the pilot were treated at Esperas Warsaw Hospital for minor injuries and released a marathon.
County Sheriff's Office, Wisconsin DNR State Patrol all responded to FAA and STSB.
The NTSB are now investigating at a Sunday news conference.
Tiffany grew visibly emotional, entering the Warsaw Fire Department, holding his wife's hand and thanking the responders directly.
This will not deter me in my efforts.
I signed up for this job.
We're going to finish the job.
straightforward human story, real firefighting, emergency with a good outcome, right?
Um, good moment to note, both candidates in this governor's race have now had very public, very human moments this cycle.
Uh, yeah.
So what'd you think?
I mean.
It's just hard to believe anything that come out of certain people's mouths man.
And it's so sad because we've seen like Trump do the us versus them thing where
like
he makes you feel like you're in this big fight and oh my goodness somebody tried to take me out and I'm gonna keep going forward and it's just like.
Does pulling on the hard strings make people want to vote for you or do people actually want to?
You know what?
I mean like do people actually want to see results and do people actually want to like believe what their candidate is saying?
It's just like knowing how many like smoke and mirrors magic tricks that they've been pulling to like Pull people in it just makes it really hard to believe even if something is true like could it be true?
Maybe
But they landed it and they swam, what, 10 feet?
Like, it sounded like a safe landing to me.
But, you know, we don't get back into it.
We don't get back into it.
It's not like we need to be heading off to break very shortly.
So I'm going to... Oh,
we still got a little...
Well, my question is if you live in Monaco was cops, which is only 68 miles away He could have got on us 61 and
So why are you getting up in a two a two plane with no airbags?
You know, I don't I don't know.
We don't tread water.
We're not fish.
We're American You could have just had a gas pedal on two airbags three four airbags and a gas pedal So, you know, I just wanted to say that before I go with them 13,000 dollars and checks where they at
with Al.
I don't understand.
Why are we flying?
Like, dude, you could drive the whole Wisconsin.
Like, what are you talking about?
Why are you flying?
Like, just super wasteful and super, like, you know what?
how about human life experiences?
I ain't never had to fly through Wisconsin to get back to a dinner.
And then though I said, I would not let the like, first of all, I don't want to make light a situation, right?
Because I would be like Jane, whoever was in the CrossFit thing.
I'd have had doodoo.
running all through down my legs.
If I was on any plane that was getting ready to crash, land, water, or pillows.
I'm letting it loose.
All
Don't go anywhere.
Yeah, that's right, y'all.
Enjoy
Man, I'm feeling all right, right?
Ready to get into whether our whether our cousins think Tom Tiffany is full of what that lady was putting out at the CrossFit
Man, Robert Lance says, this story doesn't add up.
Anita said, I'm just minding my lunch, my lunch business today.
She's actually minding her lunch business.
She's staying out of it.
A3, 3, 2, 1, 2, 10, 17 is the number to dial.
Y'all buying this story, y'all?
We don't want to make light of serious situations.
But I don't know.
Is it a pattern?
Are we seeing a pattern here whenever?
I don't
know.
I
know.
Just like what you said when he gave that press conference, this is not going to deter me.
It's like he's almost setting it up to make it some type of theory that they're trying to get rid of.
You know what I'm saying?
To say something like that, it's like, are you trying to set the stage for people to be like, oh, they trying to assassinate him now?
Oh my goodness.
You gotta do something about this.
feel like I'm just gonna keep going and
trying to stop?
You wasn't in the pilot
I ain't saying he ain't assassination worthy.
But I'm just saying, I don't think nobody is like thinking of that sounded crazy.
I could see I could.
I'm saying like, I don't think he's on nobody's radar like that to where like people are that nervous of him to where people would be trying to take him out.
That's more so what I'm saying.
So.
he was right enough to think that.
Yeah, I ain't going to say I think he's setting it up to make it seem like it was an attempt to get rid of him.
But I do think he is setting it up to receive some sort of sympathy and hopefully momentum off of it.
Like, oh, he went, you know, American loves a good heartthrob story, a good sympathy story where like, oh, my gosh, this person went through this.
Life changing event.
I'm going to ride with them.
You know.
So just just a thought, man.
Just a thought.
We got Marlon on the line because of Marlon.
How are you feeling?
Talk to us.
Hey, what's going on?
So first of all, I'm going to ask this question.
Have any of you ever been on like a private private plane or anything to to, you know, me?
Have you ever been on like a private plane like that?
So
I haven't.
Yeah.
So
C planes.
Yeah, you go from C plane.
If you go from Miami to Bahamas, you can take those C planes.
But the thing is is.
Uh, I've done it here in the state of Wisconsin, you know, uh, going down to Delavan, Darien, you know, that's only like a 45 minute hour drive.
My guy, he had a plane and he wanted to fly just to see how it was.
It was cool.
And why take an hour to drive someplace we can take 15 minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
So
understand, I understand why he took the plane now.
those planes like that, they don't glide or anything.
They go down when, when the, when the, when the power goes out, they go down
and when they
go down, you know, saying that's why it's still in the, that's why it's still in the lake.
I think he.
I think it is a story because he is running for governor.
Um, I don't think it's going to get him any sympathy votes if that's what he's looking for.
But I think that because it's newsworthy, people jump on it.
I don't think he did it or, or anybody tried to sabotage him or
they
tried to hurt him or anything like that.
I really don't believe that at all.
But, you know, it is kind of a newsworthy thing that somebody running for governor now is playing some down, but I get it.
I get it.
Yeah.
If I had a chance and I was going to Oshkosh or Fondle, and I got to get on a private plane, I would do that first drive up there because why take, let's say, why take an hour or 45 minutes when I could just jump in the plane, be there in 15 minutes, get off, get in my car and do what I got to do.
I agree with you.
I just, I think my standpoint was like, man, it must be nice to be able to have those type of funds to
You know fly within interstate to get to now 100% That's a lot of ground folks need to make up and be in multiple places So imagine if you got to go from old clear to West Bend to Germantown and all of these places he probably could hit four places in a day versus You know to um
driving there.
So I definitely understand the.
The need for wanting to.
Fly and make up ground.
And I agree with cousin Marlin.
It's just.
It's just.
It's newsworthy because he is a governor candidate.
I don't know if anybody was trying to get him, though, but it.
I'll say this, Shannon, if you're running for governor and your plane go down and crash and survive, is you using it to your advantage?
Hell
yeah.
I would talk about it, but I wouldn't be like, somebody's trying to get me out of here.
I wouldn't go far with it, but I'd be like, it happened.
I would obviously be like speaking about it.
I won't let it deter me.
But it wouldn't be like, I just thought that was a odd comment.
Why would it deter you?
What this got to do with the race?
But we do got some comments.
We got Robert Lance.
He said, it didn't look like 70 miles per hour damage to it.
And we got Reginald.
I'm glad to be joining y'all.
What's good, brother Z. Greetings to our host and hostess.
What's up, Reginald?
Reginald also says, Shannon is right.
Do could have just driven the length of the state of Wisconsin in under seven hours.
Also, yes.
What's the NPS thing?
What's the school thing?
NPS is cooking up.
Jasmine Jazz said, I love our original set.
Anybody experience a military plane crash?
been on a
I need to fly from Lake Drive to 100 and set the ground here.
Put it on
my tab.
up.
We just doing
Man, straight up.
Straight up.
He was flying.
But all jokes aside, man, glad that he is OK.
Glad that the pilot is OK.
Nobody was seriously hurt.
So.
look forward to them getting back on the campaign trail and hopefully we can reschedule this debate because I think the Wisconsin people deserve a debate.
Was it before or after the crash that he declined it?
not
Actually, it might have been earlier that week.
Might have been that same week if I'm not mistaken.
I'm almost sure that the cancellation of the debate happened first.
And from what I heard about the debate, it was you need both people to accept the invite and only one person accepted.
And I'm not sure if they shared who accepted it and who didn't accept it.
But I got an idea of who may have accepted it and who didn't.
Let's go talk to our cousin Robert on the line.
Cousin Rob, how are you doing?
Man, I'm doing all right.
I'm doing all
right.
God bless you guys.
And all I can say is it sounds like another Donald Trump stunt.
It is so crazy, man, with these election.
One crown, one again with 5,000 in.
Now we got somebody jumping out of helicopters with one band-aid on.
Man, you know what?
I think they missed their call, and they need to be stuntmen.
Y'all, God bless and don't let the fake fool
you.
OK, straight up.
Come on, man.
They have been very good at planning people's faces, man.
Let's be for real.
For real far.
Come on now.
That's all I'm trying to say.
This is family family radio.
Oh, somebody asked about what is MPS cooking up?
What is that?
Because in rage, rage acts.
What was MPS cooking up?
Right.
Um.
We.
are going to talk about that when we come back from the break.
But essentially.
MPS is developing a new committee, a great schools committee.
We're going to talk about that, right?
But when we also come back, we're going to talk about the Clancy juror.
The one that held out.
The one that they said just wouldn't obey the law.
Guess that race they said this person was arrogant.
I like I had my feelings when it was describing this person The things that they were saying the things that they were saying to describe this
person
When we come back, we're going to try to figure out what the hell is Shannon saying right here on the award-winning 10170 Truth.
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Insurance Studios, I gotta put the chair back down.
I tried.
I was very, I was,
was like, let me let him greet these people and then ask him what's going on in his chair.
Why are you in the sky
that?
like I'm in Lion King.
out
Yeah,
but the juror that held out
They said that one of the other jurors reported that he took the exercise resistant band that Plancy used and put it around another juror.
No way.
And I guess he said all the other jurors were shocked by it.
And I guess that happened while they were discussing evidence.
He was like, OK, well, let me show y'all.
Oh my God.
He was in there cutting up, bro.
Like what?
That remind me of when OJ Simpson like popped up on a reporter with the knife.
Do you all remember that?
man.
The shock on those people face when that man said, okay, well, let me show y'all what happened.
He reenacted the strangulation on a different juror.
it.
it.
like he was probably trying to make a point.
Like, listen, y'all, y'all acting shocked now, but y'all, y'all ain't.
she chased the
But
so I think it's just like a human thing to want to like The law isn't always what the human thing should be right.
So if I think what they were saying is like
they wanted him to follow exactly what the like the judge was telling them to follow because I'm pretty sure a lot of them acknowledge that like there's reasonable doubt and things of that nature but like I guess you supposed to go off of what the question is asked like was she insane at the time the answer is yes so due to the law she should get
the
insanity thing so I feel like morally he is correct yeah like
No, I don't want to free this woman because she was insane.
But was she insane?
Yes.
So it's just a hard thing to swallow.
And it also, I feel like being a black person in America, you also know jurors don't follow the rules when they black.
Because I remember I was, look, I didn't live so many lives.
I was on a jury when I was like 24.
And they was trying to slam this man.
He had to be like, and I don't know.
He has to be like 25, I would say and
they
were trying to get him for like a pen charges mind you like heroin all types of stuff and like if you're
case?
I was a juror on this case and mind you like this was oh my god the story is so long.
I don't feel like we have time basically the kids A house that they felt like he was selling drugs from was rated
It was a duplex.
tell this?
I don't care.
It was rated.
It was rated.
was.
Look, this is all hearsay upstairs was where his address was.
We know what duplexes are.
They're two separate residents, right?
So they said when they knocked, they could hear running down the stairs.
And what they did find was in the downstairs neighbor's house.
But they was trying to pin it on him.
I'm like,
What?
Like, if you don't know for sure that that was his stuff, you can't do that.
Like, they didn't even have the neighbors as witnesses.
The only thing they had was being reported by ICE and,
it
No, no, it was the law, though.
Like, it was the only people that were abiding by, like, the rules given by the judge.
was the three black women.
I hope this man respected black women.
Probably not, but like, when we say like, you had every nationality in there, only black people is three black women.
And we were like, no, like, if we're following what the judge is saying, the judge said, if anything creates reasonable doubt, and if the witnesses aren't reliable, you can't sentence somebody.
When I tell you half the people in there, the others, they were, well, he must have done something.
He did something.
He
looks
like he did it.
Must have done something.
They weren't following the rules.
We were trying to follow the rules like whether you feel like he did it or not.
Nothing was found in his house.
Nothing was found in his possession.
And the one witness they got is being deported.
What are we talking about?
Like how is this a reliable witness?
So it was just like crazy because it took almost I want to say a week.
And afterward the judge came in and I'm surprised it took you guys this long.
Yeah, this was kind of cut and dry.
Y'all
like
had to argue these people down.
But we had to argue these people down.
That man was facing so much time.
I hope he's all right.
say.
I said it's crazy because people do not be knowing like how like close to like being slim they were like.
If it wasn't for us like straight up holding out and like, okay, well, come up on this track, like playing like the game of like, I'll say he not guilty on this, but guilty on this.
Well, if we say this, we say this.
And to finally get him like a not guilty.
It
I got some, I got some juror questions.
I got some juror questions for you, for your experience, Shannon.
Because I'd like to know what that process was like.
If you can legally talk about it.
Let's see what cousin Eastside, Corey, we got to say then I got some more.
Then I got some more questions for you.
East Side Corey, how you feeling?
East Side Corey, how you feeling?
You live with the lunch break?
Y'all done had me on hold so long, I took another call.
Call us back.
East Side Corey.
All right, Shannon, I got a question for you.
So what was...
What was that experience like, right?
As we're talking 833-212-1017 is the number to dial.
833-212-1017 is the number to dial.
Have you ever been on jury duty?
And were you the one that held out and, you know, caused a bit of friction, rather?
So tell us what that experience was like, Shannon, like when...
jurors aren't seeing eye to eye one person has or a few people have different views from the majority.
Are they trying to sway you to change your opinion?
Or is this something you can't talk about?
I'm going to talk about it.
I don't remember signing up.
And this was years ago.
I don't remember signing up.
They don't let me know, I'm sure.
But I think it's more so.
It feels like you're in school and you're trying to teach somebody, like, first and foremost, it really did shake my, like, trust in the judicial system because you got random people that don't know nothing about law that are literally just, like, biased.
They're not, like, versed on, like, what they're supposed to do so it's easy to get in
FBI at Shannon's door already?
Crazy.
I looked up
now Trust in the system for sure because like I said
They have all these random people that are clearly biased.
We're in Wisconsin.
So if y'all know what Wisconsin is, it's super segregated.
So like people will look at you and just expect that, okay, they look like this.
They did it.
And that's kind of what the theme was giving off in that room.
Instead of being like, if there's any reasonable doubt, you can't say guilty.
Right
and there was
so much reason out that man's address was not downstairs where y'all found it I didn't even bring the people in where y'all found what y'all found like and then I think they were trying to go off of like a ledger he had in in his actual apartment and I think that was probably the only evidence that was had like a list of names that old to money and they're all yep see and then like I said Can't
more
old drugs is what you owe me for like it didn't say nothing like that and it was a piece of the paper that was ripped up it could come from anywhere so there's so much reasonable doubt and the only people like i said that was actually trying to follow the rules was the three black women in the room and the rest of them were like white or like others
and it was just
super disheartening like y'all know how to not follow the rules and go off your gut feeling when it's anybody else and it's just like you look around like dang like this is like
This is what it is like people life like I always tell like my nephews my brother like don't ever put your life in these people hands because It's just running people off the streets when they even make their jury selection like the questions be like Do you know somebody that passed a drug overdose or something because they want to know like you won't be biased They try to like make you not biased
in the case so they'll ask stuff about drug related charges or okay well where do you live because they want to make sure like you're a peer or you're from around kind of where they're from like and that's how they select their jurors but it was just a mess like
they
even had like a lawyer for taxes or something like you at least do some type of law and you over I don't know I think you did it it was probably him
it was just the wildest thing to witness
praise God for that.
Praise Monday for that.
A couple things on that Donald Trump.
I already got my theme song when I go if he's a little bit late with my check and we'll play that Rihanna.
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They get you in trouble.
They say what
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I see we up another 200.
We was at 8,200 and 2,500 or something like that.
Now we had like eight, eight, two, seven, whatever.
We're up.
We up.
That's all that matter.
You know, numbers numbers get tricky to me.
No, you got this.
But man, Shannon, we talking about jury duty.
You was telling us about your jury experience, right?
So the the one juror, it was one juror that was holding out this whole
Drew Rapala Devon told Gayle King on CBS Mornings that the long holdout juror who caused Lindsey Clancy mistrial was drum roll please.
A black man, the only person of color on the entire 12 person jury, nine women, three men, ages 22 to roughly 70.
The jury reportedly moved from initial 8-2-2, split towards 11-1, in favor of finding Clancy not criminally responsible, with the single black juror to sole holdout preventing a unanimous verdict either way.
So, notably, Clancy's own defense team tried to have this specific juror removed from the panel last week with Attorney Kevin Reddington arguing he refuses to listen to the law and the law you have given him, right?
On reasonable doubt, Judge Sullivan declined to remove him, saying it wasn't appropriate for him to take sides on an individual juror's reasoning.
And I appreciate the judge for that.
Now we found out it is a black man, Shannon.
What's your thoughts?
I personally feel like he was looking at it from the lens of a black person.
Most black people will be like, there's no world where a black woman can do this and have sympathy.
I don't... When you listen to the rules that were given, right?
Technically, yeah.
Like, when you're following a checklist, sure, like...
She complete mentally insane.
So by fault, right?
Criminally, what is it called?
Criminally not liable because she was insane.
But like, for moral reason, I feel like he was like, no, absolutely not.
Like, this is not right.
And I feel like he was just making a point to stand on that.
And I mean, I can't fault him for it because
We are regular people.
And like I said, even in the jury that I was in, it's like people have regular people emotions.
These are not trained people that are going to be like, okay, well, let me just check the dots and, you know, check the boxes or whatever.
They have regular human emotions.
And I do feel like those regular human emotions were more leaning towards feeling bad for this white woman because the jury was all white, if I'm not mistaken.
In
any other
instance.
People people would have did exactly what he did and no, I can't I don't see myself going that way.
No, I can't da-da-da-da like it would have been the same way so I mean I Guess it was expected for somebody to be like this is not right.
I'm actually So what happens if there's more than one mistrial like do they just keep going back at it?
For real.
Drop a comment in the chat so we can shout you out.
like.
Yeah,
Yeah, I know a world or a white one, but I don't know.
I don't know where they would, you know, I don't know.
I don't know what happens in the need of a retrial or whatever that may look like because it sounds like they would have to start over again.
But I feel like the judge still has to make their ruling or he can't make a ruling because of the mistrial.
That is the ruling.
The ruling is the mistrial.
So they would have to do this over
again.
The people say, and then they hand down the sentence, right?
Right, so they'll do it all again, and then like if there is a...
So I wonder if there's more mist trials, will they just be like, you know what, we had to throw it out.
I mean, I was just gonna say, she raised a million dollars, didn't she?
In fees alone, lawyer and court fees.
What else do we have on this?
The jury reportedly, okay, we said that.
We said that.
Okay, how other jurors have responded publicly.
So we ain't even seen this black dude yet on a low.
He can his PR together.
He got a agent.
They selling that first interview to the highest bidder right now.
Got to be.
Got to be.
So they say in juror Nick Darje told ABC News to hold out.
wouldn't show any evidence explaining his position describing a moment where the juror physically.
This is what you're talking about.
Physically demonstrated a strangulation method with the exercise band and water bottle.
Oh, he did it on a water bottle.
He ain't put it on around somebody else neck.
And what's the name, Shannon?
He put the water.
You
said he did it to a water bottle.
I thought he did it to a juror.
demonstrated.
He grabbed a stretchy band.
Like, come here.
But listen to this, though, right?
This is even crazier to me, right?
It says he demonstrated straggulation method with an exercise band and water bottle.
The other juror says, I was shocked.
It didn't make any sense to me.
It's not a game of clue.
Like, what do you mean?
It's not a game of clue.
Like you can even get the picture on a bottle of water, much less a child.
So y'all playing the game of clue.
We the ones feel like we playing real life.
And then they want to they really like talking about this man like he's off the wall for even having his position.
Right.
OK, OK.
Tom Tiffany.
Two different readings.
This is simply what a hung jury looks like a genuine good faith disagreement about reasonable doubt in an extraordinarily difficult case.
And the jurors race.
is incidental information that shouldn't be read into.
The other reading is gaining real reaction, real traction publicly and 11 person entirely white majority explicitly tried to remove the one black juror for not falling in line, then criticized him publicly once he couldn't be removed.
A pattern that lands very differently than a genuine legal disagreement framing alone.
I'm just saying, why y'all so, as a matter of fact, when we come back, we'll get back into this.
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Shannon.
Yo.
you know what?
I'm excited to hear from him as well because they already doing interviews that sound like the other people that were on the jury so He probably
I'm not gonna lie, I'm having a ball seeing these people do skits about it.
I think it's hilarious.
Because I bet that's exactly how he was looking.
The meme were like, they looking like, what?
stay
That appeal was denied.
Thank you.
Juror Darjeet told ABC News his own prediction for a retrial.
I think if they tried the retrial again, the way they did, I think nine times out of 10, I think jury would come back with not guilty by reason of insanity, meaning at least one juror believes the outcome would likely be the same with a different jury depends on who you get, man.
Who you get?
So would it be the same they would have to re-pick a different jury.
They're not gonna go with the same jury
obviously
So This is our discussion I want to have here does knowing the demographic breakdown of a jury change how the public Should read a hung verdict and if the rolls were reversed 11 black jurors one white holdout
With the public conversation about this look any different that's worth asking Directly rather than assuming the answer.
So do you think if it was a black juror?
jury 11 blacks and One white holdout What would it be?
First of all, it would never be 11 black jurors on that case
It's not
happening.
They
barely want to go
on there.
Not in this town.
Yeah, right.
jail.
I think they look for peers of whoever.
Right.
So it has to be in a certain radius of where the
Yeah,
Yeah.
So like they because it has to be a jury of your peers.
But like I said, they the way they pick them, they would never they want they want they both want what both sides want is a winnable case.
And in a case like this, neither side will be like, yep, all black people don't support this.
What happened?
Yeah.
I hope so.
I'm locked in.
I want to see what he felt like was going on inside of there, but I'm pretty sure we can all tell what was going on.
I'm gonna
Reginald said you're absolutely correct.
Instead of women, I'm assuming say a lot of men would be in custody.
Man.
I don't know, man, but for whatever it's worth, it definitely sets the table for an interesting September 29th.
I am looking forward to meeting this black man.
Hopefully we could get him on the truth and get his tape.
Somebody needs to pull some strings.
But like I said, just being
with you
OK, a big one.
But um, yeah being on a jury in general I just feel like it messes with your head because just being on that jury like my head was pounding every day I went home and it's nothing as serious as this and I couldn't help but think like dang like imagine all of the trials where like People just went off of will just because I feel like they did something you know I'm saying and didn't follow the rules.
You know
saying 100%
And all he's doing is what people do.
You know what I'm saying?
He's from a different demographic where most black people ain't gonna play that.
No, you killed some kids.
It ain't that crazy in the world.
That's what we go off of, you know what I'm saying?
So it's like, I can definitely see where he's coming from.
And like I said, it's a moral stance and it's not like just checking the boxes like they asked you to do.
But then again, when the roles are reversed,
It's okay for the white jurors to make a moral stance.
Well, I feel like they did it I feel like black people act like this straight
Oh,
We'll have an update so We have
We got two we could go with, Shannon.
So let's give him a little bit.
Let's give him a little bit of this NPS story, right?
Because, like I said, I still want to go to the meeting today.
If I have enough time, I want to go to this NPS meeting today.
To see what they cooking up for the lunch break.
And then tomorrow I come and serve it up.
All right.
But.
The ingredients in the pot right now, Shannon, is MPS is looking into or created a new committee, the great schools committee.
All right.
So let's just go with what was just announced, says MPS superintendent, Dr. Brenda.
Hmm.
What a name.
Cassie Casselius announced the creation of two.
Actually, it was two new community advisory committees.
The Great Schools Committee and the Separate Budget Advisory Committee both operate independently and make recommendations.
All right?
That's important.
They don't make decisions.
They make recommendations to the people that make decisions.
And it's up to those people to be like, are we going to listen to y'all or not?
All right, to district leadership.
They don't have final decision-making power themselves.
Casellia stated reasoning, community involvement cannot be an afterthought when we are making decisions that will shape the future of Milwaukee public schools.
So what the great schools committee actually does, Shannon, it blew my mind.
I think they should change your name.
We're going to start there.
We're going to start there.
Its core mandate is squarely about facilities and the hardest decisions a district makes, developing the criteria for school closures.
Actually recommending specific schools for possible closure and identifying where new construction may be needed.
Okay.
So they ain't talking about just a committee that closes down schools, but it sounds like they will prioritize on potential new constructions of our schools as well.
So it's a 15-member committee per Urban Milwaukee's report composed of students, parents, educators, administrators, community representatives, and sitting MPS school board members a genuine cross-section
of stakeholders, not just district officials.
So essentially, a group of people that's going to be at a free meeting.
So you're going to be volunteering your time to tell these people to get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.
What schools to close down will give a recommendation.
I got one.
I got one.
Y'all could close down the day.
I think everybody know the name of it.
Rufus King.
Close it down.
He's never served a purpose.
He's never been great.
They could close Rufus King down the day and nobody would miss it.
You said make it a Riverside
We like
back.
But man, they can take root.
They can look.
Somebody Jasmine said, hey, don't come for root.
They can take it right now.
Take Shorewood.
That's what we'll take.
Shorewood can be Riverside annex.
We'll take Shorewood right down the street.
We already have our homecomings there.
We use the feel better than they do.
Really?
Yep.
Don't go anywhere, y'all.
When we come back, we'll talk about Riverside taking over Shorewood right here on the award-winning 10170 Truth.
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Looks like the police have since then changed their initial ruling of what they tried to quickly label like it was self-inflicted or something.
So I'm glad that they didn't.
You said that
again.
No, I just said it's super unfortunate that they had to fight for them to even like Do their job and it's it's actually like concerning as much crime we have here like It just kind of shows that like how quickly they brush through certain things just to get to other things Yeah,
that service today.
Man.
Alas, my brother.
Alas.
Man, it's always tough pivoting after a loss.
And you know, people you rock with is going to, you know, be mourning.
So we was just talking about NPS, right?
And what was going on?
So, before we get any deeper into it, I wanna go to the meeting.
There's a meeting happening today.
Where's this meeting happening at?
Does it say where the meeting is happening at?
Nope, it doesn't say where the meeting is supposed to be happening at, but I'm going to assume that the meeting is...
at the,
uh... Hold on.
His first public meeting is tonight from 6 to 8 p.m.
at NPS Central Services at 5225 West Belied.
There we go.
That's what I thought.
So, 6 to 8 p.m.
Oh, there it is.
Yup.
Yup.
Absolutely right.
So, yeah, I'm gonna try my hardest to get to this first initial meeting.
So I could report back.
Hey, I feel like I should be able to like walk up to him like hey I'm a Ray nitty reporting from truth 101.7.
I just have a couple questions Is that something I could do I should be able to do that now, huh?
Freedom of the
press
times through October, so
something?
Yeah.
Where does media go?
media.
We're here,
right?
Yeah.
Come on,
man.
I mean, you could inquire about a press pass or media pass.
Okay.
Is that something you would do prior or?
Yeah, you'd do that prior.
Sometimes they had information already.
on a website or
Yeah, man.
No, no, what's going on?
You hit your little knee on the table.
You
as ever
Hit my dang old knuckle on this thing.
OK, let's talk about this right here.
So the Milwaukee 911 operated controversy, right?
What actually happened?
And this probably deserves a lot more time, but we'll try to get it in.
At 5.15, 5.16 a.m., this was a while ago, July 27th, an employee of the medical alert company called Milwaukee's 911 Center reporting what sounded like an ongoing domestic violence attack on a 99-year-old woman identified by her attorneys only as Shirley.
The caller reportedly reported hearing a man threatening her.
The call was classified as a priority three incident which did not trigger an immediate dispatch the same alert company called 911 a second time after growing concern for the first call was a handle properly this time Connecting a local call taker Directly they go that tongue time.
She was talking about Directly the live audio from inside the home where the woman's moans of pain and the man's threats were
Audible in real time still no police or fire response was dispatched dispatch nearly three hours after the first called a 99 year old victim managed to call 911 herself.
And it was only then that officers and pandemic and paramedics were finally sent.
So I feel like we briefly touched it 99 years old, bro.
Like you such a mall dog like you so whack Like to attack a 99 to attack anybody much less somebody who's 99 and Then they showed a video they showed like pictures of what this person looked like after the beating like It was just so hard and
like
So fragile bro, like people just it just shows the sheer carelessness of life right now Like people don't understand how fragile life really is and they
don't
care either like what what what business do you have doing this to a 99 year old like I genuinely like Do we know the backstory of that
man?
I don't let me see how Let me see if we got some
the
know the reason it came back up because a few people resigned and there was some moving around,
Correct.
Correct.
So two people, if I'm not mistaken, resigned.
So the victim sided the story, right?
Shirley's attorney, Chris.
McGill's has gone public demanding answers.
How are we in this type of position with the available technology, the available resources?
How can someone?
How can something like this happen?
Attorneys say they are still waiting for access to the full investigation file.
All right.
So I guess they're saying this system is relatively new.
DC itself was only created in February 2025.
Merging the city's separate police and fire 911 call centers under director Tony Bueno previously assault Lake City alongside a new computer aided dispatch system and restructured universal call taker model where one person gathers information before routing to police or fire.
So.
It says Bueno has publicly described a new system as an investment in people, process and accountability, a framing that sits uneasily next to a case where all three of those things visibly failed a 99 year old assault victim for nearly three hours.
Three hours.
Three hours, man.
That's what that's what it took.
Our elderly, our young, you know, our women, families, gotta do a better job.
I don't understand if that's, I don't think that's the best way to roll out some new technology that is required to be responsible for getting people the right service and helping emergency services that they need.
Maybe we should have had a testing point with that a little bit longer before rolling it out.
Um, so maybe the city needs to look into the reinvestment.
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I'm gonna close with this quote.
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All right.
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Hey.
I was very, I was,
was like, let me let him greet these people and then ask him what's going on in his chair.
Why are you in the sky
that?
like I'm in Lion King.
out
Yeah,
but the juror that held out
They said that one of the other jurors reported that he took the exercise resistant band that Plancy used and put it around another juror.
No way.
And I guess he said all the other jurors were shocked by it.
And I guess that happened while they were discussing evidence.
He was like, OK, well, let me show y'all.
Oh my God.
He was in there cutting up, bro.
Like what?
That remind me of when OJ Simpson like popped up on a reporter with the knife.
Do you all remember that?
man.
The shock on those people face when that man said, okay, well, let me show y'all what happened.
He reenacted the strangulation on a different juror.
it.
it.
like he was probably trying to make a point.
Like, listen, y'all, y'all acting shocked now, but y'all, y'all ain't.
she chased the
But
so I think it's just like a human thing to want to like The law isn't always what the human thing should be right.
So if I think what they were saying is like
they wanted him to follow exactly what the like the judge was telling them to follow because I'm pretty sure a lot of them acknowledge that like there's reasonable doubt and things of that nature but like I guess you supposed to go off of what the question is asked like was she insane at the time the answer is yes so due to the law she should get
the
insanity thing so I feel like morally he is correct yeah like
No, I don't want to free this woman because she was insane.
But was she insane?
Yes.
So it's just a hard thing to swallow.
And it also, I feel like being a black person in America, you also know jurors don't follow the rules when they black.
Because I remember I was, look, I didn't live so many lives.
I was on a jury when I was like 24.
And they was trying to slam this man.
He had to be like, and I don't know.
He has to be like 25, I would say and
they
were trying to get him for like a pen charges mind you like heroin all types of stuff and like if you're
case?
I was a juror on this case and mind you like this was oh my god the story is so long.
I don't feel like we have time basically the kids A house that they felt like he was selling drugs from was rated
It was a duplex.
tell this?
I don't care.
It was rated.
It was rated.
was.
Look, this is all hearsay upstairs was where his address was.
We know what duplexes are.
They're two separate residents, right?
So they said when they knocked, they could hear running down the stairs.
And what they did find was in the downstairs neighbor's house.
But they was trying to pin it on him.
I'm like,
What?
Like, if you don't know for sure that that was his stuff, you can't do that.
Like, they didn't even have the neighbors as witnesses.
The only thing they had was being reported by ICE and,
it
No, no, it was the law, though.
Like, it was the only people that were abiding by, like, the rules given by the judge.
was the three black women.
I hope this man respected black women.
Probably not, but like, when we say like, you had every nationality in there, only black people is three black women.
And we were like, no, like, if we're following what the judge is saying, the judge said, if anything creates reasonable doubt, and if the witnesses aren't reliable, you can't sentence somebody.
When I tell you half the people in there, the others, they were, well, he must have done something.
He did something.
He
looks
like he did it.
Must have done something.
They weren't following the rules.
We were trying to follow the rules like whether you feel like he did it or not.
Nothing was found in his house.
Nothing was found in his possession.
And the one witness they got is being deported.
What are we talking about?
Like how is this a reliable witness?
So it was just like crazy because it took almost I want to say a week.
And afterward the judge came in and I'm surprised it took you guys this long.
Yeah, this was kind of cut and dry.
Y'all
like
had to argue these people down.
But we had to argue these people down.
That man was facing so much time.
I hope he's all right.
say.
I said it's crazy because people do not be knowing like how like close to like being slim they were like.
If it wasn't for us like straight up holding out and like, okay, well, come up on this track, like playing like the game of like, I'll say he not guilty on this, but guilty on this.
Well, if we say this, we say this.
And to finally get him like a not guilty.
It
I got some, I got some juror questions.
I got some juror questions for you, for your experience, Shannon.
Because I'd like to know what that process was like.
If you can legally talk about it.
Let's see what cousin Eastside, Corey, we got to say then I got some more.
Then I got some more questions for you.
East Side Corey, how you feeling?
East Side Corey, how you feeling?
You live with the lunch break?
Y'all done had me on hold so long, I took another call.
Call us back.
East Side Corey.
All right, Shannon, I got a question for you.
So what was...
What was that experience like, right?
As we're talking 833-212-1017 is the number to dial.
833-212-1017 is the number to dial.
Have you ever been on jury duty?
And were you the one that held out and, you know, caused a bit of friction, rather?
So tell us what that experience was like, Shannon, like when...
jurors aren't seeing eye to eye one person has or a few people have different views from the majority.
Are they trying to sway you to change your opinion?
Or is this something you can't talk about?
I'm going to talk about it.
I don't remember signing up.
And this was years ago.
I don't remember signing up.
They don't let me know, I'm sure.
But I think it's more so.
It feels like you're in school and you're trying to teach somebody, like, first and foremost, it really did shake my, like, trust in the judicial system because you got random people that don't know nothing about law that are literally just, like, biased.
They're not, like, versed on, like, what they're supposed to do so it's easy to get in
FBI at Shannon's door already?
Crazy.
I looked up
now Trust in the system for sure because like I said
They have all these random people that are clearly biased.
We're in Wisconsin.
So if y'all know what Wisconsin is, it's super segregated.
So like people will look at you and just expect that, okay, they look like this.
They did it.
And that's kind of what the theme was giving off in that room.
Instead of being like, if there's any reasonable doubt, you can't say guilty.
Right
and there was
so much reason out that man's address was not downstairs where y'all found it I didn't even bring the people in where y'all found what y'all found like and then I think they were trying to go off of like a ledger he had in in his actual apartment and I think that was probably the only evidence that was had like a list of names that old to money and they're all yep see and then like I said Can't
more
old drugs is what you owe me for like it didn't say nothing like that and it was a piece of the paper that was ripped up it could come from anywhere so there's so much reasonable doubt and the only people like i said that was actually trying to follow the rules was the three black women in the room and the rest of them were like white or like others
and it was just
super disheartening like y'all know how to not follow the rules and go off your gut feeling when it's anybody else and it's just like you look around like dang like this is like
This is what it is like people life like I always tell like my nephews my brother like don't ever put your life in these people hands because It's just running people off the streets when they even make their jury selection like the questions be like Do you know somebody that passed a drug overdose or something because they want to know like you won't be biased They try to like make you not biased
in the case so they'll ask stuff about drug related charges or okay well where do you live because they want to make sure like you're a peer or you're from around kind of where they're from like and that's how they select their jurors but it was just a mess like
they
even had like a lawyer for taxes or something like you at least do some type of law and you over I don't know I think you did it it was probably him
it was just the wildest thing to witness
praise God for that.
Praise Monday for that.
A couple things on that Donald Trump.
I already got my theme song when I go if he's a little bit late with my check and we'll play that Rihanna.
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They get you in trouble.
They say what
but you know, like, like we said, some of them say what we can't say, but some of them say a little
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I see we up another 200.
We was at 8,200 and 2,500 or something like that.
Now we had like eight, eight, two, seven, whatever.
We're up.
We up.
That's all that matter.
You know, numbers numbers get tricky to me.
No, you got this.
But man, Shannon, we talking about jury duty.
You was telling us about your jury experience, right?
So the the one juror, it was one juror that was holding out this whole
Drew Rapala Devon told Gayle King on CBS Mornings that the long holdout juror who caused Lindsey Clancy mistrial was drum roll please.
A black man, the only person of color on the entire 12 person jury, nine women, three men, ages 22 to roughly 70.
The jury reportedly moved from initial 8-2-2, split towards 11-1, in favor of finding Clancy not criminally responsible, with the single black juror to sole holdout preventing a unanimous verdict either way.
So, notably, Clancy's own defense team tried to have this specific juror removed from the panel last week with Attorney Kevin Reddington arguing he refuses to listen to the law and the law you have given him, right?
On reasonable doubt, Judge Sullivan declined to remove him, saying it wasn't appropriate for him to take sides on an individual juror's reasoning.
And I appreciate the judge for that.
Now we found out it is a black man, Shannon.
What's your thoughts?
I personally feel like he was looking at it from the lens of a black person.
Most black people will be like, there's no world where a black woman can do this and have sympathy.
I don't... When you listen to the rules that were given, right?
Technically, yeah.
Like, when you're following a checklist, sure, like...
She complete mentally insane.
So by fault, right?
Criminally, what is it called?
Criminally not liable because she was insane.
But like, for moral reason, I feel like he was like, no, absolutely not.
Like, this is not right.
And I feel like he was just making a point to stand on that.
And I mean, I can't fault him for it because
We are regular people.
And like I said, even in the jury that I was in, it's like people have regular people emotions.
These are not trained people that are going to be like, okay, well, let me just check the dots and, you know, check the boxes or whatever.
They have regular human emotions.
And I do feel like those regular human emotions were more leaning towards feeling bad for this white woman because the jury was all white, if I'm not mistaken.
In
any other
instance.
People people would have did exactly what he did and no, I can't I don't see myself going that way.
No, I can't da-da-da-da like it would have been the same way so I mean I Guess it was expected for somebody to be like this is not right.
I'm actually So what happens if there's more than one mistrial like do they just keep going back at it?
For real.
Drop a comment in the chat so we can shout you out.
like.
Yeah,
Yeah, I know a world or a white one, but I don't know.
I don't know where they would, you know, I don't know.
I don't know what happens in the need of a retrial or whatever that may look like because it sounds like they would have to start over again.
But I feel like the judge still has to make their ruling or he can't make a ruling because of the mistrial.
That is the ruling.
The ruling is the mistrial.
So they would have to do this over
again.
The people say, and then they hand down the sentence, right?
Right, so they'll do it all again, and then like if there is a...
So I wonder if there's more mist trials, will they just be like, you know what, we had to throw it out.
I mean, I was just gonna say, she raised a million dollars, didn't she?
In fees alone, lawyer and court fees.
What else do we have on this?
The jury reportedly, okay, we said that.
We said that.
Okay, how other jurors have responded publicly.
So we ain't even seen this black dude yet on a low.
He can his PR together.
He got a agent.
They selling that first interview to the highest bidder right now.
Got to be.
Got to be.
So they say in juror Nick Darje told ABC News to hold out.
wouldn't show any evidence explaining his position describing a moment where the juror physically.
This is what you're talking about.
Physically demonstrated a strangulation method with the exercise band and water bottle.
Oh, he did it on a water bottle.
He ain't put it on around somebody else neck.
And what's the name, Shannon?
He put the water.
You
said he did it to a water bottle.
I thought he did it to a juror.
demonstrated.
He grabbed a stretchy band.
Like, come here.
But listen to this, though, right?
This is even crazier to me, right?
It says he demonstrated straggulation method with an exercise band and water bottle.
The other juror says, I was shocked.
It didn't make any sense to me.
It's not a game of clue.
Like, what do you mean?
It's not a game of clue.
Like you can even get the picture on a bottle of water, much less a child.
So y'all playing the game of clue.
We the ones feel like we playing real life.
And then they want to they really like talking about this man like he's off the wall for even having his position.
Right.
OK, OK.
Tom Tiffany.
Two different readings.
This is simply what a hung jury looks like a genuine good faith disagreement about reasonable doubt in an extraordinarily difficult case.
And the jurors race.
is incidental information that shouldn't be read into.
The other reading is gaining real reaction, real traction publicly and 11 person entirely white majority explicitly tried to remove the one black juror for not falling in line, then criticized him publicly once he couldn't be removed.
A pattern that lands very differently than a genuine legal disagreement framing alone.
I'm just saying, why y'all so, as a matter of fact, when we come back, we'll get back into this.
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Shannon.
Yo.
you know what?
I'm excited to hear from him as well because they already doing interviews that sound like the other people that were on the jury so He probably
I'm not gonna lie, I'm having a ball seeing these people do skits about it.
I think it's hilarious.
Because I bet that's exactly how he was looking.
The meme were like, they looking like, what?
stay
That appeal was denied.
Thank you.
Juror Darjeet told ABC News his own prediction for a retrial.
I think if they tried the retrial again, the way they did, I think nine times out of 10, I think jury would come back with not guilty by reason of insanity, meaning at least one juror believes the outcome would likely be the same with a different jury depends on who you get, man.
Who you get?
So would it be the same they would have to re-pick a different jury.
They're not gonna go with the same jury
obviously
So This is our discussion I want to have here does knowing the demographic breakdown of a jury change how the public Should read a hung verdict and if the rolls were reversed 11 black jurors one white holdout
With the public conversation about this look any different that's worth asking Directly rather than assuming the answer.
So do you think if it was a black juror?
jury 11 blacks and One white holdout What would it be?
First of all, it would never be 11 black jurors on that case
It's not
happening.
They
barely want to go
on there.
Not in this town.
Yeah, right.
jail.
I think they look for peers of whoever.
Right.
So it has to be in a certain radius of where the
Yeah,
Yeah.
So like they because it has to be a jury of your peers.
But like I said, they the way they pick them, they would never they want they want they both want what both sides want is a winnable case.
And in a case like this, neither side will be like, yep, all black people don't support this.
What happened?
Yeah.
I hope so.
I'm locked in.
I want to see what he felt like was going on inside of there, but I'm pretty sure we can all tell what was going on.
I'm gonna
Reginald said you're absolutely correct.
Instead of women, I'm assuming say a lot of men would be in custody.
Man.
I don't know, man, but for whatever it's worth, it definitely sets the table for an interesting September 29th.
I am looking forward to meeting this black man.
Hopefully we could get him on the truth and get his tape.
Somebody needs to pull some strings.
But like I said, just being
with you
OK, a big one.
But um, yeah being on a jury in general I just feel like it messes with your head because just being on that jury like my head was pounding every day I went home and it's nothing as serious as this and I couldn't help but think like dang like imagine all of the trials where like People just went off of will just because I feel like they did something you know I'm saying and didn't follow the rules.
You know
saying 100%
And all he's doing is what people do.
You know what I'm saying?
He's from a different demographic where most black people ain't gonna play that.
No, you killed some kids.
It ain't that crazy in the world.
That's what we go off of, you know what I'm saying?
So it's like, I can definitely see where he's coming from.
And like I said, it's a moral stance and it's not like just checking the boxes like they asked you to do.
But then again, when the roles are reversed,
It's okay for the white jurors to make a moral stance.
Well, I feel like they did it I feel like black people act like this straight
Oh,
We'll have an update so We have
We got two we could go with, Shannon.
So let's give him a little bit.
Let's give him a little bit of this NPS story, right?
Because, like I said, I still want to go to the meeting today.
If I have enough time, I want to go to this NPS meeting today.
To see what they cooking up for the lunch break.
And then tomorrow I come and serve it up.
All right.
But.
The ingredients in the pot right now, Shannon, is MPS is looking into or created a new committee, the great schools committee.
All right.
So let's just go with what was just announced, says MPS superintendent, Dr. Brenda.
Hmm.
What a name.
Cassie Casselius announced the creation of two.
Actually, it was two new community advisory committees.
The Great Schools Committee and the Separate Budget Advisory Committee both operate independently and make recommendations.
All right?
That's important.
They don't make decisions.
They make recommendations to the people that make decisions.
And it's up to those people to be like, are we going to listen to y'all or not?
All right, to district leadership.
They don't have final decision-making power themselves.
Casellia stated reasoning, community involvement cannot be an afterthought when we are making decisions that will shape the future of Milwaukee public schools.
So what the great schools committee actually does, Shannon, it blew my mind.
I think they should change your name.
We're going to start there.
We're going to start there.
Its core mandate is squarely about facilities and the hardest decisions a district makes, developing the criteria for school closures.
Actually recommending specific schools for possible closure and identifying where new construction may be needed.
Okay.
So they ain't talking about just a committee that closes down schools, but it sounds like they will prioritize on potential new constructions of our schools as well.
So it's a 15-member committee per Urban Milwaukee's report composed of students, parents, educators, administrators, community representatives, and sitting MPS school board members a genuine cross-section
of stakeholders, not just district officials.
So essentially, a group of people that's going to be at a free meeting.
So you're going to be volunteering your time to tell these people to get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.
What schools to close down will give a recommendation.
I got one.
I got one.
Y'all could close down the day.
I think everybody know the name of it.
Rufus King.
Close it down.
He's never served a purpose.
He's never been great.
They could close Rufus King down the day and nobody would miss it.
You said make it a Riverside
We like
back.
But man, they can take root.
They can look.
Somebody Jasmine said, hey, don't come for root.
They can take it right now.
Take Shorewood.
That's what we'll take.
Shorewood can be Riverside annex.
We'll take Shorewood right down the street.
We already have our homecomings there.
We use the feel better than they do.
Really?
Yep.
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Looks like the police have since then changed their initial ruling of what they tried to quickly label like it was self-inflicted or something.
So I'm glad that they didn't.
You said that
again.
No, I just said it's super unfortunate that they had to fight for them to even like Do their job and it's it's actually like concerning as much crime we have here like It just kind of shows that like how quickly they brush through certain things just to get to other things Yeah,
that service today.
Man.
Alas, my brother.
Alas.
Man, it's always tough pivoting after a loss.
And you know, people you rock with is going to, you know, be mourning.
So we was just talking about NPS, right?
And what was going on?
So, before we get any deeper into it, I wanna go to the meeting.
There's a meeting happening today.
Where's this meeting happening at?
Does it say where the meeting is happening at?
Nope, it doesn't say where the meeting is supposed to be happening at, but I'm going to assume that the meeting is...
at the,
uh... Hold on.
His first public meeting is tonight from 6 to 8 p.m.
at NPS Central Services at 5225 West Belied.
There we go.
That's what I thought.
So, 6 to 8 p.m.
Oh, there it is.
Yup.
Yup.
Absolutely right.
So, yeah, I'm gonna try my hardest to get to this first initial meeting.
So I could report back.
Hey, I feel like I should be able to like walk up to him like hey I'm a Ray nitty reporting from truth 101.7.
I just have a couple questions Is that something I could do I should be able to do that now, huh?
Freedom of the
press
times through October, so
something?
Yeah.
Where does media go?
media.
We're here,
right?
Yeah.
Come on,
man.
I mean, you could inquire about a press pass or media pass.
Okay.
Is that something you would do prior or?
Yeah, you'd do that prior.
Sometimes they had information already.
on a website or
Yeah, man.
No, no, what's going on?
You hit your little knee on the table.
You
as ever
Hit my dang old knuckle on this thing.
OK, let's talk about this right here.
So the Milwaukee 911 operated controversy, right?
What actually happened?
And this probably deserves a lot more time, but we'll try to get it in.
At 5.15, 5.16 a.m., this was a while ago, July 27th, an employee of the medical alert company called Milwaukee's 911 Center reporting what sounded like an ongoing domestic violence attack on a 99-year-old woman identified by her attorneys only as Shirley.
The caller reportedly reported hearing a man threatening her.
The call was classified as a priority three incident which did not trigger an immediate dispatch the same alert company called 911 a second time after growing concern for the first call was a handle properly this time Connecting a local call taker Directly they go that tongue time.
She was talking about Directly the live audio from inside the home where the woman's moans of pain and the man's threats were
Audible in real time still no police or fire response was dispatched dispatch nearly three hours after the first called a 99 year old victim managed to call 911 herself.
And it was only then that officers and pandemic and paramedics were finally sent.
So I feel like we briefly touched it 99 years old, bro.
Like you such a mall dog like you so whack Like to attack a 99 to attack anybody much less somebody who's 99 and Then they showed a video they showed like pictures of what this person looked like after the beating like It was just so hard and
like
So fragile bro, like people just it just shows the sheer carelessness of life right now Like people don't understand how fragile life really is and they
don't
care either like what what what business do you have doing this to a 99 year old like I genuinely like Do we know the backstory of that
man?
I don't let me see how Let me see if we got some
the
know the reason it came back up because a few people resigned and there was some moving around,
Correct.
Correct.
So two people, if I'm not mistaken, resigned.
So the victim sided the story, right?
Shirley's attorney, Chris.
McGill's has gone public demanding answers.
How are we in this type of position with the available technology, the available resources?
How can someone?
How can something like this happen?
Attorneys say they are still waiting for access to the full investigation file.
All right.
So I guess they're saying this system is relatively new.
DC itself was only created in February 2025.
Merging the city's separate police and fire 911 call centers under director Tony Bueno previously assault Lake City alongside a new computer aided dispatch system and restructured universal call taker model where one person gathers information before routing to police or fire.
So.
It says Bueno has publicly described a new system as an investment in people, process and accountability, a framing that sits uneasily next to a case where all three of those things visibly failed a 99 year old assault victim for nearly three hours.
Three hours.
Three hours, man.
That's what that's what it took.
Our elderly, our young, you know, our women, families, gotta do a better job.
I don't understand if that's, I don't think that's the best way to roll out some new technology that is required to be responsible for getting people the right service and helping emergency services that they need.
Maybe we should have had a testing point with that a little bit longer before rolling it out.
Um, so maybe the city needs to look into the reinvestment.
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