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Who gets humanity?
Shannon brought up a couple cases, couple immigration cases in particular.
Shout out because of Jasmine checking in on the chat.
Who gets humanity in particular?
Couple cases we're going to talk about.
Yesterday was a we had a good conversation of preserving history.
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of humanity according to Google.
Humanity has three main simple meanings.
All people on earth.
The kindness we show each other and the traits that make us human.
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This is the award-winning one on one seven the truth We talking about humanity today y'all and I I like this topic Shannon.
I really do it might spill over
It might spill over.
Listen, I saw one and I was like, you know what?
so many different
And the double standards on who gets humanity or who deserves it?
you stumble
So I think the first thing that I saw was did you already get a chance to mention the two stories we gonna talk about?
it because it's
So I think one of the stories what made me I think it more so So there was somebody that was very supportive of
Trump's deportation rules and like very loud about it.
Just a huge supporter.
And he got a taste of his own medicine.
Essentially, he ended up pretty much being deported and seeing how what his reaction was.
And, um, in some sense, like a lot of people do have empathy for those situations as well, because there's a lot of supporters that are like, now like, we didn't know.
Oh, like, bro, what do you mean you didn't know that man said we was going to, you thought he was playing.
Right.
So.
You got people that are kind of empathetic about it.
Like, oh, okay, like, you know, they deserve a second chance.
Thankfully they waking up now.
But in my eyes, I'm like...
No, because we pick and choose who gets humanity and who we understand.
These people being crime, these people being saying the conditions are horrible, the people being saying that they being abused and terrorized while being deported or treated a way where a lot of them aren't criminals.
Like it's not like y'all just looking for criminals.
Y'all are deported regular old people just trying to live a day life and make some money.
So it's like...
watching that man babble and cry, it just kind of irritated me.
Like, man, shut up.
Ain't nothing wrong with you.
Because y'all wasn't, like when other people was crying and saying this was going on, nobody had any type of humility toward them.
But now, because you understand it, you expect people to care.
And like, I don't know.
It just got me thinking about a whole another situation where somebody was treated inhumanely and it pretty much ended badly for that person.
So where was the humility then?
And it's not the first case where people that are immigrants have been harassed, have been terrorized, have been treated less than and nobody cares until it's at their front door.
So that's kind of what really how my brain was working in that topic really.
Let's get into this first segment of
Humanity and I want y'all to sit with this situation too because I'll be honest with you.
I didn't I didn't know about this on particular situation and it's a sad story and
Yeah,
Okay, so we got two stories here today cousins.
All right, so first is the heartbreaking death of Perry Dahmas bill does it sound like I'm
Pierre.
Pierre.
He Haitian.
Pierre Bell.
He Haitian.
That's Pierre for show.
set.
I
that
one.
So Pierre was just 20 years old.
He was Haitian, a college student at Wright State University in Ohio, an athlete, and according to his family, a young man who came to this country trying to build a future.
Pierre legally entered the United States in 2024 through a government authorized immigration process.
He later lost his immigration protections.
And
while his case was moving through the system, ICE placed the GPS ankle monitor on him July 29th.
His family says the monitor completely changed him.
His father said Pierre fell humiliated He felt like people were looking at him as if he were a criminal.
He repeatedly faced bullying in school because of it My kids are you know, I'm especially some man I told
Man, he he had dreams of playing college soccer and now he was walking around campus with a giant government tracking device strapped to his ankle Pierre himself wrote publicly about the humiliation essentially asking how am I supposed to go to school and play sports looking like I've committed some crime then on August 31st
Just weeks after the monitor was placed on him, authorities say Pierre pulled his vehicle over on Interstate 70 and walked into traffic.
He was struck and killed.
And yeah, his family believes he died by suicide.
He was 20 years old.
In Dice's response, the agency confirmed that they put the monitor on him, but rejected the idea that I should be blamed for his death.
Now, obviously no single policy or event can automatically explain why someone dies by suicide.
Mental health is complicated, but I also don't think we can ignore that Pierre himself was saying before he died, telling people that he's ashamed, he's embarrassed, he felt like he was being treated like a criminal.
And then you ask the question,
Why was the ankle monitor even necessary for
this
particular young man in the first place?
He was going to college.
He had a pending immigration case.
He wasn't hiding.
He wasn't running.
He was literally trying to go to school.
What danger was this 20 year old student supposedly presenting that required him to walk around with this GPS strap to his ankle?
And then we get into the second story.
Well, before we get into the second story.
brother.
He also has a video.
this down.
Questions being raised in Ohio after a Haitian immigrant and college freshman apparently took his own life after losing his protected immigration status.
Ice recently fitted 20 year old Pierre Damas Bell with an ankle monitor.
His family says the shame prompted him to walk into the path of a truck on Interstate 70.
A local pastor read a statement from Bell's father
after my son was outfitted with the ankle monitor.
He felt like he was treated like an animal.
He's a soccer player and he felt embarrassed and humiliated.
Bell came to the US in 2024 to join his parents who'd fled Haiti.
He was an honor student studying neuroscience and planning to go on to medical school.
Recently, posting on social media, I didn't come here to commit a crime or hurt anyone, but the Trump administration has revoked temporary protected status for Haitian nationals.
Arguing temporary means just that.
Temporary.
Ohio's Republican governor is criticizing the administration's approach.
Was it really wise to look at someone like that and say, you know, we're gonna kick you out of the country?
We'll put ankle monitor on you.
to me just doesn't make any sense.
Immigration authorities have been ramping up arrests.
Sources say 50,000 people in the U. S illegally were detained last month alone, including 2100 in New York, described by Homeland Security as criminals.
Back to Pierre Damas Bell, Homeland Security did not comment on the case, but we should note immigration officers have used ankle monitors for decades, including under Democratic administrations.
Karen Wall ABC News.
super unfortunate.
Yeah,
And we we sticking on humanity.
We sticking on humanity.
He says, how am I supposed to?
go to school and play sports looking like I've committed some type of crime.
Now, what I'm interested in, like they didn't say what caused him to lose his protection.
I'm sure it was some policy that was changed.
Yeah, that's probably all it was.
It wasn't anything he did.
I think they said in the story, the protections have been lifted for Haitian immigrants for some reason.
You got it.
You can tell them better than I could.
I will butcher it.
Didn't they win like a war?
Like they actually fought back against slavery and pretty much won, right?
Yeah.
The
first
And then- They wouldn't play.
I'm not mistaken.
That's why they try to demonize patients, too.
the country.
You have me.
That's why they also try to demonize, you know what?
Say it.
Oh, my business.
I feel like that's also why they demonize like hoodoo and voodoo and stuff like that as well.
Cause I don't think essentially those practices are bad.
mean,
sure.
come on.
That's why I said, look, we, we.
Can't do that, but
Literally literally that's a hey, I know some stuff, but
I Got one percent church in me.
I got a cousin that go to church
He said, how am I supposed to go to school?
How am I supposed to play sports?
Kids picking on him.
I'm ashamed.
I'm embarrassed.
I feel like I'm being treated like a criminal.
This is somebody who came to the country legally through a government authorized immigration process, which meaning he paid
to come here.
They ain't free to just go through the government process and say, oh, yeah, I'm
coming.
20 years old talking about humanity, how a country makes people feel.
And we got some comparisons to some immigrants that came from South Africa.
They wasn't placed on ankle monitors, but don't go anywhere when we come back.
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How y'all feeling, man?
How y'all feeling?
How y'all feeling?
We talking about humanity today.
Humanity is on the menu.
Humanity is awesome.
Sounds like it been on the menu.
Man.
eating it.
you.
They taking
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you, man, humanity is on the menu.
And we talking about Pierre de Mas Bell.
It was 20 years old.
College student Haitian college student at Wright State University in Ohio.
He was an athlete.
All right.
If you just joining us, we just filling you in.
A three three.
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That's the number to dial a three three two one two ten seventeen is the number to dial.
So Shannon broke this story down.
But now we just really about to go into it as we talk about humanity.
All right.
He said, how am I supposed to go to school and play sports looking like I've committed some crime?
I'm ashamed.
I'm embarrassed.
I feel like I'm being treated like a criminal.
So much so that a week after.
A week, a week after.
They put this ankle monitor on him.
He walked into oncoming traffic on the interstate.
It ended the embarrassment, the shame.
The bullying.
And then ice response is like, yeah, we put it on him, but we are not to blame.
All
right, we ain't do it.
We ain't push him.
That'd be that type of response.
We didn't push him.
Right.
We didn't drive him there.
But mentally, we didn't give him the road.
Well, we we gave him the road, but he on itself.
That's what that be.
Exactly and I feel like a lot of these situations is where like
People don't understand like you coming from a different country already and like I can only imagine like he in Ohio So like you can only imagine like fitting in being hard enough You know I'm saying and then around a certain demographic of people they already judging you they already look at you a certain way You trying to find yourself and then they put a big old ankle monitor on you So you know you know them people was bullying him you know they was looking at him like a criminal
You can't sit down and explain everybody.
I'm actually an immigrant.
I didn't do anything wrong But they put it on me because some policies got and in my bank account like you can't sit there and explain that to everybody Especially when they already have these preconceived judgments of you So you can only imagine what he was going going through and not to mention people already going through enough out here And then and then this for what and then dog power on to people for what?
can only imagine how he was being treated.
I don't even think they caught it.
But now I'm going to ask it again.
You asked why was an ankle monitor necessary for this particular young man in the first place?
You highlighted that he was going to college.
You even highlighted that he had a pending immigration case.
So he ain't going nowhere
Right he was doing it the right way already.
It ain't like off.
Yep.
You got me.
I was sneaky and no he was doing things the right way There was no reason for this
833 212 1017 is the number to dial 833 212 1017 is the number to dial How do you feel about this is ankle monitors necessary in this case because
We had another situation before we go to this next story when we talking about people who They said they would flee they fled I can't remember what they said they were fleeing but the South Africans the white South Africans in the middle of our immigration crisis We rolled out the red carpet They said they were they were fearing for their lives in South Africa because Africans
Was taken back to land that day unrightfully was holding on to But they didn't have ankle monitors when they came in to the country, let me see if I could See if I can pull an update on the South
African carpet.
Literally.
It laid it out
No hassle, hassle free like mattress firms.
I don't even think they
And
they ain't get no sandwiches tossed at them.
They have to
your
trade.
Hey, I'm doing okay, but you know, I'm just being honest with you.
This is kind of like a serious issue, because, you know, I'm just being honest, you know, a young kid like that committing suicide, you know, it's kind of deep.
You know, I said that, you know, I'm being honest with you, I was a high school teacher for more than 20 years.
I watched a lot of these little young kids, some of them kind of proud of those ankle bracelets.
You know what I mean?
But people from other countries, people from other countries are not.
And the thing that really got me was, is, you know,
Why couldn't they just give him a government-issued cell phone?
It's right there every place you go.
Just like you can cut off an ankle bracelet if you want to run.
You can throw away a phone in the same way.
what I
you mean and it
Or instead of, you know, having a
Yeah.
And I'm being honest with you, I played four years of college sports.
And I couldn't even imagine trying to play, you know,
I'll play basketball.
I remember we used to try to play with the ankle weights on.
You know, trying to increase our vertical leap.
And I can't even imagine trying to play with something flip flopping.
You know, while I'm trying to learn, trying to move to the left, trying to move to the right, I couldn't even imagine even one there.
You know, even going to a stadium, you know, with something like that on my ankle.
You know what I mean?
The embarrassment behind
The mental
Yeah, now I'm just saying to myself I look at all these comments on the internet, you know, it's just say That it just seems like instead of our country moving forward.
We didn't move back I'm being honest, which I ain't gonna say one step but seem like some of us to move back
Thank you.
And then the real thing that's killing me is everybody to move away from the Nolan Ware store.
Yep.
Yep.
Everybody them for God that it's been almost six weeks.
Still ain't no autopsy.
Still ain't no grand jury.
You know, this is Mississippi.
This is what we supposed to, you know, be, you know, just supposed to accept.
Hmm.
Yeah, and that's why I said that you know, we didn't you know, I don't know It's just like it's just seem like we have just become just too complacent to accept certain things certain injustices out here.
It shouldn't really even be a kind
cuz I really feel for that young man's family ain't no way I would want to bury my 19 year old son
Thank you for calling.
Thank you for calling the lunch break man
He right.
He right.
He right.
Why they had to put him why they had to put him through that type of process as a college student, somebody that came through the process.
We talking about humanity.
How we treat people.
I
dug up the arrival obviously involved.
He was obviously like involved with so many different things too.
I feel like I saw like a ROTC uniform.
He was in sports.
He was going to college like, well, he's not a threat.
Didn't have criminal history.
What more do y'all want?
And like he said, I like as far as sports, like I read somewhere that he did like end up not being able to play sports, something that he loved because of the ankle monitor,
like
the balance and flopping around and the embarrassment altogether kind of.
took that away so it's like it's super unfortunate and there had to be other ways and like I also thought about that too like some some kids might think it looked cool but like like he said coming from like a different country it doesn't look cool and then at the same time he's
operating in a different space.
He's in college.
You know what I'm saying?
When we talk about kids that might think that look cool, it's probably some, you know, kids from the hood that's just, you know what I'm saying?
Like, oh, look what I did.
Like, yeah, but like, once you like are elevating and you're on a different level, that type of stuff ain't cool no more.
You know what I'm saying?
He's in college.
He's from a different country.
Like, imagine just having to consistently explain why you have an ankle monitor on.
When they already looking at you as a criminal before that and you already have to like stand apart from the crowd
Yeah, and as an immigrant when you come to this country they take their education very seriously So before we go to break I dug up the oh the welcome package that the South African africanas
Got the arrival and support Special flights groups arriving in africans has landed at airports like Washington DC dualists international and chartered planes Arranged by the government.
They got financial aid income and refugee.
You know what?
Let's go to break
It's gonna take too much time to read all of these.
All these packages that these white South African immigrants, when they came off with their little flags off the plane.
They had a good flag.
They got a flag.
be right back.
I never get a flag coming off.
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What up y'all welcome back welcome back welcome back welcome back humility It's the lunch break crew Ray nitty maybe Shannon DJ brother Z holding us down with the production is sound It's a funny conversation happening in the group chat right now and this is this is the importance right of black people understanding
The differences we ignorantly lump black American experiences together and want.
Black immigrants.
To have the same response or understanding.
And I think it shows a huge disconnect of people having.
Or showing humility.
To the entire diaspora of black people I was born in the United States Virgin Islands because my mother who was an immigrant Came to the country my father who was an immigrant came to the country We
So much as black man, this is what I've seen as black.
Like, I hate how we don't take a second before we just say things.
We want so many people to understand the black American experience, which we should.
But we so blatantly ignore the black immigrant experience here.
And does it?
Easily, the black immigrants don't always understand the black American experience here either.
But that's part of what we was just talking about the other day.
The constant divide.
Yes.
Yes, black people experience embarrassment.
On multiple levels.
On multiple levels every day in this country.
Okay, nobody said they didn't.
But to downplay diminish somebody else's cultural experience on what they thought was the land of the free and the home of the brave, you went through the process properly, you paid to go through the process and then you get treated like that.
Yeah, that's a mental toll on somebody.
We can sit here and say we right now have a jury that's in deliberate.
They can't figure out whether to send Clancy to jail or not.
But people can find time to understand like, OK.
There's a world where she might.
I can understand her.
We can have so much humility Shannon for a Clancy.
Yeah
Yeah, I feel like it's easier for us as Americans in general even like it's like a Not a self-fulfilling prophecy, but I feel like it's also like a thing black Americans also experience and I think even like
Immigrants, I think all people experience the same thing where when you see whiteness, you can see humility.
You can be like, aw, they can't handle that.
But when you see blackness, you're like, oh, they could toughen up.
They should have been able to handle that.
Why would you, you know what I mean?
I think it's one of those things where for some reason, we see whiteness as needing to be protected.
And they're so fragile.
But when it comes to blackness, when it comes to immigrants,
It's one of them things where like people just feel like all they tough they tough as bullets
They
don't be able to take it all and it also spills over the black women like you understand But like I said black people in general black and brown people face a Whole different level of like toughen up you understand people don't even think for a second that maybe maybe we can't handle it Maybe we shouldn't be going through this.
Maybe we don't have to operate in chaos.
Maybe we don't have to operate
fighting for our lives every day.
We don't have to live like that.
Right.
Because somehow, some way, when we see white people struggling, it's, oh man.
Come on now.
They can't handle that.
Let's get them out of South
Shannon.
right away Shannon they probably ain't even have to fill out no paperwork
said even white people can can see humility for white people and that's why with the Clancy case Yes, that's exactly why it's easier for her to rally a crowd and when when you think of missing people cases when when a white woman I can't remember her name when missing
after her boyfriend killer, but that's not her story.
You see how people gathered around her and we got to find her.
It was like nationwide.
They was gonna find her.
They had drones outside his parents' house.
But that's another episode for another day, because I'm going too deep into my little, you know, tangent.
But even that girl's father said, he noticed that when she went missing, how people rallied around her.
And he noticed the disparity between black and brown people in his blonde hair blue-eyed daughter So he has a foundation where they help find black and brown people because it was so like it was so enlightening to see like Dang, I never see this type of coverage for nobody.
I'm telling the obvious the obvious answer was oh my kids white
And basic needs or like $4,500 to cover
To cover basic needs per person.
Planned welcome kits.
No ankle monitors though.
But that's the thing.
We've become so accustomed of our community being treated like.
dirt that we don't even realize that across the board, no matter whether you're a black immigrant, African, Haitian, Caribbean, or a black American, you the same.
We all the same.
It's going to be treated as such when it comes down to certain things.
OK.
Especially when you write I feel like a lot of people from different countries are raised their whole lives to think don't come to America and be acting like an American like I had that conversation with somebody a while ago like because
Like not to be, not to bring it there, but a lot of like Africans or Haitians, they're, they're raised to think that African Americans are like, don't be like that.
You know what I'm
saying?
So when
you get here and your whole life you told, don't you go over there and get to acting like that?
Don't, don't get an ankle monitor and like now you have it even though it's not because of your doing.
There's a mental toll that comes with a young mind like that.
He's 20 years old.
And if he's been raised his whole life
being
told not to act a certain way, not to look a certain way, don't go over there and lose your way and blah, blah.
And now you walk around with this ankle monitor.
And it's not in his head when people are looking at you like you crazy, especially in settings that he would have been in if he's playing sports, if he's in college, he's in Ohio.
You know what I'm saying?
So you know they're looking at him crazy.
They're already looking at you crazy because you're not like.
And if that's been banging your head for 20 years you have to understand how how
Much of a deep cut that would be to feel like I'm doing the thing that Americans are doing like and I'm not trying to say it's okay that they're taught that or that they believe that exactly It's just something that it's true
Another
divisive tool or measure to keep black Americans and black immigrants From getting on the same page.
It's propaganda
It's propaganda.
They show immigrants an image of what black Americans is.
And then they paint an image of what black immigrants look like to black Americans.
Now we hear today.
Yep, where we
got some folks that don't
How are we doing today?
good.
We're doing good.
It's good to hear from you.
Okay.
Okay.
Uh, I like listening.
Um, you were talking about, um, uh, the guy, the kid that committed suicide.
It took me back to that guy and Nancy, Nancy, Michigan, when he, uh, he ran from the police and he fell and the police shot him in the back of the head.
Uh, if it was Patrick Lyola or something like that.
And every time I saw that, you could just see it was deliberate.
He opened his fingers and shot that man in his brain stem.
But
anyways, my point is they use us.
That's the big agenda to say to their white people, we're gonna not take care of them.
We're gonna take care of you.
So they use everything bad to say negative thing about us.
So their white people will be afraid of us and call us criminals, you know, just like this kid.
He was being bullied.
You know, they just use everything about us because we can excel so good.
We can dance.
We can do everything.
We get educated.
Now that we're educated, you see how they do in Jasmine
and
other women, they kick them out of government jobs.
And yeah, so they do a whole lot of stuff against us.
And they show it to the public, their white people, what I'm going to do to them.
We're going to make sure you get these stuff, but they're not going to get them.
Because like I say, the automation is going to be robot.
I mean, they're building this stuff so fast.
And like I said, I worked for Rockwell.
They automated the jobs to come out of here, out of the country.
So they can be those jobs for them, so they better get on the ship, because they're on the Titanic too.
Because they won't have a job either, because they so busy looking at us, then we're the culprits.
I've been on the low, I've been taking my time I feel like I'm out of my mind It feel like my life ain't mine Who can relate?
I've been on the low, I've been taking my time I feel like I'm out of my mind It feel like my life
right?
seen
our
I
that's the one that's like
Super, uh, he's very white passing with the glasses.
Then he got a brother.
He got
a brother.
He got a brother that looked black
as
hell.
That's funny as hell.
That'll keep me funny.
Like people, like mixed people that are white passing and then they have a brother that looked like completely different.
He's like, wait a minute.
Man,
I'm telling you.
Hey, they're the ones the movies be about.
Like nobody knew they was, it was actually black.
I saw this Black Mirror episode where he was a mixed dude and then he was passive for like, he usually identified as white, but he was Poe.
And he went and checked the black box because he was really mixed and then he started dressing more black so he could get this scholarship.
So he could get this scholarship to stay in the school and whatnot.
But man we talking Then they started treating him
like
The
Man, hello, you don't get the same cushion.
we're
It is a good conversation.
that's why I made the point to go
No, that's why I made the point to say like a lot of people would say like well, they didn't drive him there and like you said but mentally they did it's the same way you say well, I Didn't hang them, but you gave them the rope You don't know what people going through and it's been situations where people will coerce somebody into suicide That's not okay.
Even though they didn't do it
It's still not okay.
So I So was I like in my
13th reason
Exactly could have been man.
I had that
No, thanks
So for us to just cast our blanket statements and feelings of how we would have operated if we was in that situation or what we would have not done To ourselves is like that's cool that works for you and yourself, but that didn't work for Pierre We not Pierre
And he shouldn't have been in this situation to begin with and it just takes a little humility
and understanding to understand that.
Not everybody can handle that.
Yeah, respectfully.
Because it's already difficult enough.
A lot of these black bodies as being hanged in Nolan Wells, people are rushing to label our thing suicide.
But when the mental toll of being black in America or being a black immigrant in America is too much Suicide ain't that important of a topic no more to take serious Because we wouldn't have did it to ourselves We don't know what it drives us to the brink
We would love to believe that we have the mental strength to hold on, and we have the support system to hold on.
We didn't drive them there, but did we help them?
Did we
reach out?
Like I said, a lot of these people putting these things on people, they wouldn't dare do that to nobody that looked like them.
But we OK being like, oh, well, we should be stronger.
No, we shouldn't.
We shouldn't have to deal with this type of stuff and we need to be more empathetic toward each other.
Yeah.
might be the world for somebody might
Yeah, it's a lot of traumatic stuff that like people will laugh at.
Like, I like I remember seeing the TikTok like me and my siblings laughing at the trauma we went through growing up and like the reaction from our friends be so different.
And it's true because it's like some stuff is like.
Yeah, I went through that, but it was a normal day in the life for me.
But what's a normal day in the life for you could be a life changing situation for somebody else.
And we have to be more understanding of that.
Like you said, like we can't put like even those people that are like, well, I went through it when I was growing up.
So they should be able to take it.
No, it shouldn't be like that.
That's how we stay stuck in a cycle of hurt and pain and just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks.
That's literally how we stay stuck by.
just assuming everybody should be able to go through these traumatic things.
Everybody should be able to just take it and go on with their life.
That's not how it works.
And
it's not fair because I feel like the majority of the people that do it is black and brown people.
Well, I went through it growing up.
I was abused growing up.
They should be fine.
Man, I ain't messed
You hear that all the time?
We don't know what to some people used to seeing that type of behaviors or certain things.
Some people that's normal to them.
They normal.
It's normal to see somebody walking around with an ankle monitor.
And
nobody gonna bully you at school for ankle monitor, but but we not in the community that he's in we not from where he's from to know what's gonna happen or how it was how heavy it was on him Soccer could have been his life.
They just athlete said when they came play they be so depressed and messed up as a Haitian
lot
He was gonna play in college couldn't do that But they said oh it's temporarily, but I mean a lot of things that they said temporary We've been going through it for years.
pretty sure
and the mental effects probably could have lasted a lifetime I'm
like just the interaction with ice itself having a I mean
I feel like having to go through that
type of
yeah go through those buildings or the cells or you know getting fingerprinted seeing Half of them in like army uniform like a come on man
And knowing and seeing the stories that we see on the streets, you don't even know if you're gonna make it out alive.
I can only imagine as a black American, we know what it feels like being pulled over by the police.
I'm sure that's the same feeling that these people feel when they see ICE agents coming in.
Well, I'm just gonna get a fingerprint done and go back home.
You don't know if you're going back home.
You don't know what's gonna happen.
There's many cases of... Sometimes going back home ain't an option.
what's
Haiti right now?
People are fleeing that man, even Mexico is like bro like a lot of the it stresses me out because a lot of these people have what is it called?
It's like some type of like protection They're here because they need to be protected from where they're from and those protections are lifted So they like we just gonna throw you back where you are running from and hope you have time to do it the right way and come back in here Sometimes that's not an option.
They go right back and end up dead.
Yeah, changes.
We got changes that have lasted us years and years.
That was what how long ago now?
Like was that 2020 for five years?
No, it was 2020.
So six years ago now.
And how long was that?
I said, the lockdown was about a year.
And that was supposed to be temporary a year is a long time.
They'll say, it's just going to be a week.
It's going to be a month.
It's going to be a few months in the turn of two year.
We'd be like, oh, things would
be temporary.
24 hours and no more.
Walmart still ain't 24 hours.
Come
ain't even got
We ain't even got buffets.
back, y'all,
was laughing.
Hmm.
That's my favorite.
Welcome back.
Welcome
like this.
No, for real.
That's crazy.
I like that.
Michael Jackson would have loved it.
What up, y'all?
I'm on my tea
time.
We
Oh my God, please don't challenge them folks.
at
Right.
They say, well, you nothing
but a skip away.
No.
place.
What's his name that was taking your signs?
He's going to be tipping them off and you might want to go.
Bob will
be like, I got one for you.
It's a
high profile one too.
He has great hair,
He's the other nitty.
Pume, pume, pun gun.
Yo, what is wrong with y'all?
Not very humane of you, Ray.
Now
it
is.
It is.
did.
Bro,
I'd be I coulda chuckle at that every time when people get y'all confused.
I think that's hilarious.
It pisses me off,
know and that's why I think it's funnier, right?
I'm so sorry.
It pisses
this
Paper.
I'm like, whoa.
Hold on, Sally.
First of all, you got to just walk around with a side by side in your pocket like here.
do not
I said, bow.
He walked to Washington.
Got to get like a baseball card
Hey, but low key.
I know we talking about humanity, but I was tuned in when they was walking to DC Doc, especially when they crossed Indiana and then folks was like shooting at them.
Man, that was insane.
Yeah, I was tuned in.
I ain't gonna lie.
I was like, it's better than anything on TV right now.
But that would be, man, they came out with a...
That would have been
That would have been a cool reality.
They got a book about him.
OK, we're going in the in the direction I thought.
I was like, oh, about the walk to Washington.
But God, you never
know.
OK, when I hear surviving, now I'm like, jeez.
More like
Yeah, I'm going to look that up because I don't think that sound better than what I thought.
Yeah, it doesn't sound better than what I thought was happening, right?
I guess you're right.
So we got our second meal on the menu today.
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We are talking about humanity.
Who receives it?
Guru said he came back and raised over a million, turned into a winter skiing Olympian.
He wasn't like at the Alps.
Yo, y'all are so messy.
Who said he raised a million?
It was a lot of rumors.
No.
I got a
French
Now, get me off here.
Now I need to know.
You know, I'm curious.
I still
of Frank
See, that's why they got y'all confused.
I think that's why, because both of y'all were rappers.
I feel like I
Before we get into that, we got anything on the menu over there, right?
Oh, my God.
You know what?
Let
Before we get into that, I was like, we've been feasting on the buffet, but I was like, you know what?
We ain't got a chance to look at the menu.
I was wondering.
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Man.
Yeah, we only got one more on the menu, but we'll get to it before the end.
After the break, I asked you to read our Cheesecake Factory menu over there.
They got
shortage.
How?
I was at Cheesecake Factory and I was like, what does their kitchen look like?
I just want to tour the kitchen because why do they have everything?
I tried something on a menu I've never even seen before.
It was like deep fried like chicken bites, but it was like shredded chicken.
And like the wrap that they do egg rolls in and it was deep fried.
It was good and it was ruffalo in there I was like every time I come here, I get this salmon lime lime crusted salmon like you can do anything in there.
They got plantains.
They got pop There's nothing you can't get
everything.
key.
They probably do got Caribbean place.
like the pineapple
Just pull up on a day they get their drops and just watch what trucks come in and take their source.
That's what you got to
all
Our menu is as big as Cheesecake Factory's menu, and then we start questioning the menu.
That's how we got there.
Of course, of course.
So.
We're going to get into Milo.
All right.
And if you guys don't know who Milo is, he is a British far right political commentator who became famous for supporting Donald Trump and promoting extremely aggressive immigration policies.
And when I say aggressive, I mean aggressive.
Milo had publicly called for ice checkpoints at supermarket entrances where people could
be
forced to prove they were legally in this country.
He also publicly said America needs to deport millions and millions and millions of people.
His position was basically enforced the law, deport them, no excuses.
Well, guess who ice came for y'all?
We gon' tell you after the break if you don't know.
If the gas ain't obvious, I'm gonna have y'all write that in the chat.
Who y'all think they came for?
talk about it more after this break.
figure out
All
welcome
back welcome
To the award-winning 1017 the truth live from the American family insurance studios.
It's your favorite crew the lunch break crew Ray nitty Maybe Shannon DJ brother Z holding us down with the production and sound I ain't never heard the afro beats bar Mali remake This is I never heard this version of redemption song
it's over there
a
an African.
He might teapatch yourself from mental slavery.
I will vote for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump.
I will vote
for Donald
Trump.
I will vote for Donald Trump.
I will vote for Donald Trump.
I will vote for Donald Trump.
I
will vote for Donald Trump.
I will vote
for Donald Trump.
All
right, let's
So before we went on break and again the number of dollars a through three two one two ten seventeen If you guys want to join the conversation that way give us a call or text us the text lines are open But we want to hear from you also hit us up in the chat 101.7 the truth on YouTube join the chat there and watch us live in studio So before we went on break.
I gave y'all a little rundown of who Milo is right?
He was a very very far, right?
British commentator who became famous because he supported Donald Trump in very aggressive immigration policies and before the break I said guess who ice came for recently I'ma
say
They came for Milo
Who would have thought?
They got Marla.
The far right political commentator who went famous for supporting Donald Trump.
He even at one point said they need the ice checkpoints at the supermarket.
Don't let them get no food.
Send them home.
So I used to arrest him at the New Orleans airport on August 27th.
Why?
Because despite all of that talk about immigrants following the law,
The federal government says Milo himself had overstayed his visa.
Damn.
He had legally, he had legally entered the United States in 2019, but he remained past his time that he was authorized to stay.
He also missed an immigration hearing and ended up in a final removal order.
ICE detained him and the next day they deported him back to the UK.
Get out of here.
That's what they said.
I don't know if I said that, but that's what I think they said.
And cousins, here's where the hypocrisy becomes almost impossible to ignore.
The same man who wanted immigration checkpoints at the grocery store, he suddenly had a lot to say once immigration enforcement happened to him.
After, Milo complained about how humiliating and harsh this experience was.
And the word that caught my attention was humiliating.
Because wasn't that exactly what our friend Pierre was trying to tell us?
Pierre said wearing that ankle monitor was humiliating Pierre said he felt like he was being treated like an animal But somehow when a young Haitian immigrant expect expresses the humiliation There's people that'll say well, that's immigration enforcement should have followed the rules.
That's just the law
But when a wealthy famous politically connected British man gets detained by the exact same agency, suddenly we're supposed to discuss dignity.
Suddenly, the detention feels cruel, right?
Suddenly being processed by ICE is degrading.
And suddenly we understand how terrifying it can be to lose control over your own life.
And that is the conversation that we are having, right?
Because immigration law cannot only become cruel when it reaches somebody you relate to.
You cannot spend years saying to pour everybody and then discover compassion at the moment that you're the immigrant.
Oh, no.
I need that clip, actually, but
let's be clear.
Milo ultimately got sent back to the United Kingdom.
Pierre was facing the possibility of being sent back to Haiti, a country that is dealing with extraordinary violence and stability and humanitarian crisis.
And we were talking about that.
It's a scary place to be right now.
I don't think the UK going through what Haiti going through.
So.
Those aren't remotely the same circumstances.
Yet somehow Pierre was the one walking around college wearing an ankle monitor.
Right?
And this is bigger than Milo.
It's about the way that we decide who deserves empathy.
When you hear the word immigrant, who do you picture?
When you hear the word illegal alien, who do you picture?
Because Milo is literally an immigrant who
who the Department of Homeland Security said violated U.S.
immigration law.
He overstated his visa, yet cruelty.
Some people probably never imagined someone like Milo.
Wait, sorry.
Some people never imagined someone like Milo when they were yelling about illegal immigrants.
And I think he didn't imagine himself either, even though he was an illegal immigrant.
I don't understand that.
Like do they think they check like who you voted for?
Like I genuinely don't get it.
Dude, did they think that?
Like did they?
Like I genuinely want to know because there's such a.
Right.
So you would think he'd have people, friends, family that could.
If you can't participate in the voting process, you would just think it don't affect you at all.
I just really want to understand what people's mindsets were when they did this.
And how are they surprised that this is happening?
Because I feel like I had a keen understanding.
This is exactly what was going to happen.
Like, where were they reading?
What were they listening to?
We've seen this before.
I ain't even going to go down the rabbit hole.
We've seen it before.
They might be surprised, not us.
Mm-hmm.
They might be surprised Not us But you know some people Are surprised because you you saw the video Everybody think like the way black people get treated is a standard for like treating people terribly he said you're treating me like a black
person
fuck y'all.
But it's crazy to me because you see videos like that.
And then these same people will tell you racism don't exist.
Y'all are just so known to this.
But you but in the same breath, you know black people are treated away because those same people you treated me like a black So clearly, you know black people are not treated as their counterparts are You know it but they're the same people that will will try to make you feel crazy for speaking up about injustices or racism
man
back to Milo.
that
Zach's working on a video because this man was crying.
He's like, they treated me so bad.
had my
hands tied up.
I fell over.
And then I was crying.
I was like,
No.
And then he's like, I just don't understand.
Like, like.
If I have such a stance, I'd be embarrassed to even talk about this because you have to know this is what like what he's describing is what all these people have been describing is what they described that they would do.
He was like, they're treating us all like gang members.
Yeah, that's what they said they were going to do.
That's what they called all the immigrants.
died I never heard about Haitians eating cats and dogs until until I think I
it was I
Is that even a stereotype?
It's like they just make it stuff up.
They didn't clever.
They just make it stuff up.
Hey, I mean, if they stew it like that kangaroo tail.
even remember the doggy
Well, y'all trying to eat delicacies.
Y'all think they can't get that stuff away from free?
Can't
Well, that's a delicacy over there in Australia.
Somebody had to fight for their life for that, too.
tail.
to.
Where did
He went back to the UK
So just finishing up where we left off at, he overstayed his visa yet culturally.
Some people probably never imagined someone like Milo would be deported.
Pierre was 20, he was trying to pursue education and he was trying to play soccer.
He had plans for his life and according to his family, the shame and pressure surrounding his immigration situation became just too unbearable.
Do we actually support certain immigration policies or do we support them only when they or do they support them?
Only when we can imagine it's it's somebody else.
That's what I think it boils down to they only support those policies when they feel like it can't be me and I almost feel like because he from the UK he probably His stance was rooted in racism.
come out the black and brown ones.
They ain't talking about us.
They don't see me in turn away
It's
It's your turn.
I can't wait until we pull up that video.
That man was, I was crying and he didn't, he had my hands tied together.
I
was
this is in the fact that he even thinks anybody should care.
Like I feel bad because I'm a very empathetic person.
I'm a soft girl, but bro.
What?
What?
Wait, what did you think was happening?
He thought he was gonna get that South African treatment.
That's what he thought.
He said, they're gonna give me a flag and fly me home.
That's what he thought.
a stipend.
We're gonna get into this.
That's what he thought.
Look, it did all this work.
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I didn't really understand the physical reality of how
institutionalized the brutality as in America.
The manner in which they arrest you, they put your manacles, your hands, your feet chained together.
I mean like everybody is arrested is like an MS-13 gang member and it hurts a lot more than it looks like on television.
It was, sure it was humiliating and it was disorientating and the rest of it.
It was physically degrading.
It was, it was frightening.
It was frightening.
I don't think I've ever been frightened like that before.
Just not.
How emotional have you been through this period?
I've never been like this before.
I tripped and kind of tumbled down the stairs.
You know, I'm a clumsy person so that it's not the rarest thing in the world.
But it set something off from when I'd been kind of, you know, shoved down a couple of steps and I was weeping like an old woman for an hour.
And I was like, oh, I really have to get this out of my system.
I think maybe in the past I've been a little bit...
A little bit blasé when people talked about their trauma.
A little bit kind of cavalier when people talked about, you know, stuff kind of lingering with them, but I get it now.
And I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
the
The two so
We got a. We ain't done yet.
You know what?
This is what I'm going to have.
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That was
good.
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gotta tap in with that journey with coach Erica menu.
You need to he said he was disorientated.
He was off track.
He fell and weep for an hour.
That's what he said.
Like an
like an old woman.
was sexist.
Right.
Like why you have to say that?
Why?
Like wow.
Old woman.
He ain't even sexist agency.
That's why he in a position because he also a little bit
racist.
He said I can get off of the racism a little bit because I've been in that position, but
human ageism.
I'm gonna still be on
that until
somebody.
you feel bad for him right
he said He didn't realize you didn't know how much trauma was in those those events Took a tumble.
He was shoved all types of crazy.
I don't feel
Hello.
All right.
Hello.
A lot.
Come on now.
And then they look at us when it's the time of need.
Everybody, I don't know why it is, why I do know why it is.
to come out to the hell.
On this time, they looking at the African-Americans.
You don't know how it feels to protect us.
You guys are so
loud.
Y'all's like, shut up complaining.
Y'all always talking about race as a good ol' brick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And now
we're here.
And that's what every, like every group of like, bro, it's just ridiculous.
Like when you think about the feminist movement, when you think about the African-American like racism that we face, when you think about all these things, everybody looks at us like, hey, y'all been through, y'all should help us out.
And it's like, yeah, we've been through it.
And when we went through it, y'all told us to shut up.
And y'all was standing behind the opposition.
Y'all like, yeah, I don't know what their issue is.
And then when it turned on y'all, y'all like, you know what, let's go over here.
Right,
they
aren't nice you guys are right and there it just it's mind-boggling to watch so many meaning
mega
influencers Yeah, like they're like slowly, but surely all of them I didn't know I was gonna be like this and I genuinely don't I want to know what propaganda they were looking at because it's not like they were hiding Like everything they said they were gonna do they are doing it.
I won't do that.
Very obvious everything aside from the positive campaign promises.
That's the crazy part of it The positive campaign promises y'all ain't get that but all the negative stuff we said was gonna do all the stuff that was obviously going to affect people negatively we doing it a Lot of people are
I feel like being empathetic toward like the MAGA people that are figuring out, oh, things aren't going the way we thought it would go.
That's why they scrambling now.
Y'all could be your own little universe, because I don't want to be around people that don't understand pain until it's at their front door.
Don't wait till anything is at your front door to act on it.
Injustice is injustice.
You don't have to be like, you know what, it ain't me.
Yeah, because it could be you.
And it's mind boggling to believe these people don't even believe it could ever be them.
I think that was just I think that was just about it.
Thursday.
Oh You were gonna tell us about the South South Africans
that's what you were looking at.
I was
they
Like they was playing for a soccer team or something, huh?
up.
We be stressing Zach out.
He like, dang it, we only got two minutes.
Y'all try to play videos.
Y'all don't have enough
time.
They never mind y'all
can see the video
But now
you can definitely Pull it up if you like on YouTube or whatever the case may be Humanity humility Who deserves it who gets it man?
Let's not be so insensitive that we think that we are Superman or superwoman and that
Other people's stresses because we think we're strong enough to carry them or go through them that That means that it's not real for them or something serious to them because how we feel is not somebody else's reality and That's all I got man.
Let's get rid of the divides the generational divide between black people
the immigration divide between black people, and the black and brown women, the black woman and the black man divide, man.
We gotta work on that.
We can't let them keep pulling us and separating us at every corner, because at the end of the day, they treat us all the same.
Don't even think that they don't.
Shannon, take us home, man.
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That's why I'm off the game.
No, I'm just... Don't go anywhere.
We got the grapevine up next.
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I've been on the low, I've been taking my time I feel like I'm out of my mind It feel like my life ain't mine Who can relate?
I've been on the low, I've been taking my time I feel like I'm out of my mind It feel like my life
right?
seen
our
I
that's the one that's like
Super, uh, he's very white passing with the glasses.
Then he got a brother.
He got
a brother.
He got a brother that looked black
as
hell.
That's funny as hell.
That'll keep me funny.
Like people, like mixed people that are white passing and then they have a brother that looked like completely different.
He's like, wait a minute.
Man,
I'm telling you.
Hey, they're the ones the movies be about.
Like nobody knew they was, it was actually black.
I saw this Black Mirror episode where he was a mixed dude and then he was passive for like, he usually identified as white, but he was Poe.
And he went and checked the black box because he was really mixed and then he started dressing more black so he could get this scholarship.
So he could get this scholarship to stay in the school and whatnot.
But man we talking Then they started treating him
like
The
Man, hello, you don't get the same cushion.
we're
It is a good conversation.
that's why I made the point to go
No, that's why I made the point to say like a lot of people would say like well, they didn't drive him there and like you said but mentally they did it's the same way you say well, I Didn't hang them, but you gave them the rope You don't know what people going through and it's been situations where people will coerce somebody into suicide That's not okay.
Even though they didn't do it
It's still not okay.
So I So was I like in my
13th reason
Exactly could have been man.
I had that
No, thanks
So for us to just cast our blanket statements and feelings of how we would have operated if we was in that situation or what we would have not done To ourselves is like that's cool that works for you and yourself, but that didn't work for Pierre We not Pierre
And he shouldn't have been in this situation to begin with and it just takes a little humility
and understanding to understand that.
Not everybody can handle that.
Yeah, respectfully.
Because it's already difficult enough.
A lot of these black bodies as being hanged in Nolan Wells, people are rushing to label our thing suicide.
But when the mental toll of being black in America or being a black immigrant in America is too much Suicide ain't that important of a topic no more to take serious Because we wouldn't have did it to ourselves We don't know what it drives us to the brink
We would love to believe that we have the mental strength to hold on, and we have the support system to hold on.
We didn't drive them there, but did we help them?
Did we
reach out?
Like I said, a lot of these people putting these things on people, they wouldn't dare do that to nobody that looked like them.
But we OK being like, oh, well, we should be stronger.
No, we shouldn't.
We shouldn't have to deal with this type of stuff and we need to be more empathetic toward each other.
Yeah.
might be the world for somebody might
Yeah, it's a lot of traumatic stuff that like people will laugh at.
Like, I like I remember seeing the TikTok like me and my siblings laughing at the trauma we went through growing up and like the reaction from our friends be so different.
And it's true because it's like some stuff is like.
Yeah, I went through that, but it was a normal day in the life for me.
But what's a normal day in the life for you could be a life changing situation for somebody else.
And we have to be more understanding of that.
Like you said, like we can't put like even those people that are like, well, I went through it when I was growing up.
So they should be able to take it.
No, it shouldn't be like that.
That's how we stay stuck in a cycle of hurt and pain and just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks.
That's literally how we stay stuck by.
just assuming everybody should be able to go through these traumatic things.
Everybody should be able to just take it and go on with their life.
That's not how it works.
And
it's not fair because I feel like the majority of the people that do it is black and brown people.
Well, I went through it growing up.
I was abused growing up.
They should be fine.
Man, I ain't messed
You hear that all the time?
We don't know what to some people used to seeing that type of behaviors or certain things.
Some people that's normal to them.
They normal.
It's normal to see somebody walking around with an ankle monitor.
And
nobody gonna bully you at school for ankle monitor, but but we not in the community that he's in we not from where he's from to know what's gonna happen or how it was how heavy it was on him Soccer could have been his life.
They just athlete said when they came play they be so depressed and messed up as a Haitian
lot
He was gonna play in college couldn't do that But they said oh it's temporarily, but I mean a lot of things that they said temporary We've been going through it for years.
pretty sure
and the mental effects probably could have lasted a lifetime I'm
like just the interaction with ice itself having a I mean
I feel like having to go through that
type of
yeah go through those buildings or the cells or you know getting fingerprinted seeing Half of them in like army uniform like a come on man
And knowing and seeing the stories that we see on the streets, you don't even know if you're gonna make it out alive.
I can only imagine as a black American, we know what it feels like being pulled over by the police.
I'm sure that's the same feeling that these people feel when they see ICE agents coming in.
Well, I'm just gonna get a fingerprint done and go back home.
You don't know if you're going back home.
You don't know what's gonna happen.
There's many cases of... Sometimes going back home ain't an option.
what's
Haiti right now?
People are fleeing that man, even Mexico is like bro like a lot of the it stresses me out because a lot of these people have what is it called?
It's like some type of like protection They're here because they need to be protected from where they're from and those protections are lifted So they like we just gonna throw you back where you are running from and hope you have time to do it the right way and come back in here Sometimes that's not an option.
They go right back and end up dead.
Yeah, changes.
We got changes that have lasted us years and years.
That was what how long ago now?
Like was that 2020 for five years?
No, it was 2020.
So six years ago now.
And how long was that?
I said, the lockdown was about a year.
And that was supposed to be temporary a year is a long time.
They'll say, it's just going to be a week.
It's going to be a month.
It's going to be a few months in the turn of two year.
We'd be like, oh, things would
be temporary.
24 hours and no more.
Walmart still ain't 24 hours.
Come
ain't even got
We ain't even got buffets.
back, y'all,
was laughing.
Hmm.
That's my favorite.
Welcome back.
Welcome
like this.
No, for real.
That's crazy.
I like that.
Michael Jackson would have loved it.
What up, y'all?
I'm on my tea
time.
We
Oh my God, please don't challenge them folks.
at
Right.
They say, well, you nothing
but a skip away.
No.
place.
What's his name that was taking your signs?
He's going to be tipping them off and you might want to go.
Bob will
be like, I got one for you.
It's a
high profile one too.
He has great hair,
He's the other nitty.
Pume, pume, pun gun.
Yo, what is wrong with y'all?
Not very humane of you, Ray.
Now
it
is.
It is.
did.
Bro,
I'd be I coulda chuckle at that every time when people get y'all confused.
I think that's hilarious.
It pisses me off,
know and that's why I think it's funnier, right?
I'm so sorry.
It pisses
this
Paper.
I'm like, whoa.
Hold on, Sally.
First of all, you got to just walk around with a side by side in your pocket like here.
do not
I said, bow.
He walked to Washington.
Got to get like a baseball card
Hey, but low key.
I know we talking about humanity, but I was tuned in when they was walking to DC Doc, especially when they crossed Indiana and then folks was like shooting at them.
Man, that was insane.
Yeah, I was tuned in.
I ain't gonna lie.
I was like, it's better than anything on TV right now.
But that would be, man, they came out with a...
That would have been
That would have been a cool reality.
They got a book about him.
OK, we're going in the in the direction I thought.
I was like, oh, about the walk to Washington.
But God, you never
know.
OK, when I hear surviving, now I'm like, jeez.
More like
Yeah, I'm going to look that up because I don't think that sound better than what I thought.
Yeah, it doesn't sound better than what I thought was happening, right?
I guess you're right.
So we got our second meal on the menu today.
Once again, 833-212-1017 is the number to dial.
833-212-1017 is the number to dial.
We are talking about humanity.
Who receives it?
Guru said he came back and raised over a million, turned into a winter skiing Olympian.
He wasn't like at the Alps.
Yo, y'all are so messy.
Who said he raised a million?
It was a lot of rumors.
No.
I got a
French
Now, get me off here.
Now I need to know.
You know, I'm curious.
I still
of Frank
See, that's why they got y'all confused.
I think that's why, because both of y'all were rappers.
I feel like I
Before we get into that, we got anything on the menu over there, right?
Oh, my God.
You know what?
Let
Before we get into that, I was like, we've been feasting on the buffet, but I was like, you know what?
We ain't got a chance to look at the menu.
I was wondering.
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Man.
Yeah, we only got one more on the menu, but we'll get to it before the end.
After the break, I asked you to read our Cheesecake Factory menu over there.
They got
shortage.
How?
I was at Cheesecake Factory and I was like, what does their kitchen look like?
I just want to tour the kitchen because why do they have everything?
I tried something on a menu I've never even seen before.
It was like deep fried like chicken bites, but it was like shredded chicken.
And like the wrap that they do egg rolls in and it was deep fried.
It was good and it was ruffalo in there I was like every time I come here, I get this salmon lime lime crusted salmon like you can do anything in there.
They got plantains.
They got pop There's nothing you can't get
everything.
key.
They probably do got Caribbean place.
like the pineapple
Just pull up on a day they get their drops and just watch what trucks come in and take their source.
That's what you got to
all
Our menu is as big as Cheesecake Factory's menu, and then we start questioning the menu.
That's how we got there.
Of course, of course.
So.
We're going to get into Milo.
All right.
And if you guys don't know who Milo is, he is a British far right political commentator who became famous for supporting Donald Trump and promoting extremely aggressive immigration policies.
And when I say aggressive, I mean aggressive.
Milo had publicly called for ice checkpoints at supermarket entrances where people could
be
forced to prove they were legally in this country.
He also publicly said America needs to deport millions and millions and millions of people.
His position was basically enforced the law, deport them, no excuses.
Well, guess who ice came for y'all?
We gon' tell you after the break if you don't know.
If the gas ain't obvious, I'm gonna have y'all write that in the chat.
Who y'all think they came for?
talk about it more after this break.
figure out
All
welcome
back welcome
To the award-winning 1017 the truth live from the American family insurance studios.
It's your favorite crew the lunch break crew Ray nitty Maybe Shannon DJ brother Z holding us down with the production and sound I ain't never heard the afro beats bar Mali remake This is I never heard this version of redemption song
it's over there
a
an African.
He might teapatch yourself from mental slavery.
I will vote for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump.
I will vote
for Donald
Trump.
I will vote for Donald Trump.
I will vote for Donald Trump.
I will vote for Donald Trump.
I
will vote for Donald Trump.
I will vote
for Donald Trump.
All
right, let's
So before we went on break and again the number of dollars a through three two one two ten seventeen If you guys want to join the conversation that way give us a call or text us the text lines are open But we want to hear from you also hit us up in the chat 101.7 the truth on YouTube join the chat there and watch us live in studio So before we went on break.
I gave y'all a little rundown of who Milo is right?
He was a very very far, right?
British commentator who became famous because he supported Donald Trump in very aggressive immigration policies and before the break I said guess who ice came for recently I'ma
say
They came for Milo
Who would have thought?
They got Marla.
The far right political commentator who went famous for supporting Donald Trump.
He even at one point said they need the ice checkpoints at the supermarket.
Don't let them get no food.
Send them home.
So I used to arrest him at the New Orleans airport on August 27th.
Why?
Because despite all of that talk about immigrants following the law,
The federal government says Milo himself had overstayed his visa.
Damn.
He had legally, he had legally entered the United States in 2019, but he remained past his time that he was authorized to stay.
He also missed an immigration hearing and ended up in a final removal order.
ICE detained him and the next day they deported him back to the UK.
Get out of here.
That's what they said.
I don't know if I said that, but that's what I think they said.
And cousins, here's where the hypocrisy becomes almost impossible to ignore.
The same man who wanted immigration checkpoints at the grocery store, he suddenly had a lot to say once immigration enforcement happened to him.
After, Milo complained about how humiliating and harsh this experience was.
And the word that caught my attention was humiliating.
Because wasn't that exactly what our friend Pierre was trying to tell us?
Pierre said wearing that ankle monitor was humiliating Pierre said he felt like he was being treated like an animal But somehow when a young Haitian immigrant expect expresses the humiliation There's people that'll say well, that's immigration enforcement should have followed the rules.
That's just the law
But when a wealthy famous politically connected British man gets detained by the exact same agency, suddenly we're supposed to discuss dignity.
Suddenly, the detention feels cruel, right?
Suddenly being processed by ICE is degrading.
And suddenly we understand how terrifying it can be to lose control over your own life.
And that is the conversation that we are having, right?
Because immigration law cannot only become cruel when it reaches somebody you relate to.
You cannot spend years saying to pour everybody and then discover compassion at the moment that you're the immigrant.
Oh, no.
I need that clip, actually, but
let's be clear.
Milo ultimately got sent back to the United Kingdom.
Pierre was facing the possibility of being sent back to Haiti, a country that is dealing with extraordinary violence and stability and humanitarian crisis.
And we were talking about that.
It's a scary place to be right now.
I don't think the UK going through what Haiti going through.
So.
Those aren't remotely the same circumstances.
Yet somehow Pierre was the one walking around college wearing an ankle monitor.
Right?
And this is bigger than Milo.
It's about the way that we decide who deserves empathy.
When you hear the word immigrant, who do you picture?
When you hear the word illegal alien, who do you picture?
Because Milo is literally an immigrant who
who the Department of Homeland Security said violated U.S.
immigration law.
He overstated his visa, yet cruelty.
Some people probably never imagined someone like Milo.
Wait, sorry.
Some people never imagined someone like Milo when they were yelling about illegal immigrants.
And I think he didn't imagine himself either, even though he was an illegal immigrant.
I don't understand that.
Like do they think they check like who you voted for?
Like I genuinely don't get it.
Dude, did they think that?
Like did they?
Like I genuinely want to know because there's such a.
Right.
So you would think he'd have people, friends, family that could.
If you can't participate in the voting process, you would just think it don't affect you at all.
I just really want to understand what people's mindsets were when they did this.
And how are they surprised that this is happening?
Because I feel like I had a keen understanding.
This is exactly what was going to happen.
Like, where were they reading?
What were they listening to?
We've seen this before.
I ain't even going to go down the rabbit hole.
We've seen it before.
They might be surprised, not us.
Mm-hmm.
They might be surprised Not us But you know some people Are surprised because you you saw the video Everybody think like the way black people get treated is a standard for like treating people terribly he said you're treating me like a black
person
fuck y'all.
But it's crazy to me because you see videos like that.
And then these same people will tell you racism don't exist.
Y'all are just so known to this.
But you but in the same breath, you know black people are treated away because those same people you treated me like a black So clearly, you know black people are not treated as their counterparts are You know it but they're the same people that will will try to make you feel crazy for speaking up about injustices or racism
man
back to Milo.
that
Zach's working on a video because this man was crying.
He's like, they treated me so bad.
had my
hands tied up.
I fell over.
And then I was crying.
I was like,
No.
And then he's like, I just don't understand.
Like, like.
If I have such a stance, I'd be embarrassed to even talk about this because you have to know this is what like what he's describing is what all these people have been describing is what they described that they would do.
He was like, they're treating us all like gang members.
Yeah, that's what they said they were going to do.
That's what they called all the immigrants.
died I never heard about Haitians eating cats and dogs until until I think I
it was I
Is that even a stereotype?
It's like they just make it stuff up.
They didn't clever.
They just make it stuff up.
Hey, I mean, if they stew it like that kangaroo tail.
even remember the doggy
Well, y'all trying to eat delicacies.
Y'all think they can't get that stuff away from free?
Can't
Well, that's a delicacy over there in Australia.
Somebody had to fight for their life for that, too.
tail.
to.
Where did
He went back to the UK
So just finishing up where we left off at, he overstayed his visa yet culturally.
Some people probably never imagined someone like Milo would be deported.
Pierre was 20, he was trying to pursue education and he was trying to play soccer.
He had plans for his life and according to his family, the shame and pressure surrounding his immigration situation became just too unbearable.
Do we actually support certain immigration policies or do we support them only when they or do they support them?
Only when we can imagine it's it's somebody else.
That's what I think it boils down to they only support those policies when they feel like it can't be me and I almost feel like because he from the UK he probably His stance was rooted in racism.
come out the black and brown ones.
They ain't talking about us.
They don't see me in turn away
It's
It's your turn.
I can't wait until we pull up that video.
That man was, I was crying and he didn't, he had my hands tied together.
I
was
this is in the fact that he even thinks anybody should care.
Like I feel bad because I'm a very empathetic person.
I'm a soft girl, but bro.
What?
What?
Wait, what did you think was happening?
He thought he was gonna get that South African treatment.
That's what he thought.
He said, they're gonna give me a flag and fly me home.
That's what he thought.
a stipend.
We're gonna get into this.
That's what he thought.
Look, it did all this work.
But listen, we'll be back at it after these messages.
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I didn't really understand the physical reality of how
institutionalized the brutality as in America.
The manner in which they arrest you, they put your manacles, your hands, your feet chained together.
I mean like everybody is arrested is like an MS-13 gang member and it hurts a lot more than it looks like on television.
It was, sure it was humiliating and it was disorientating and the rest of it.
It was physically degrading.
It was, it was frightening.
It was frightening.
I don't think I've ever been frightened like that before.
Just not.
How emotional have you been through this period?
I've never been like this before.
I tripped and kind of tumbled down the stairs.
You know, I'm a clumsy person so that it's not the rarest thing in the world.
But it set something off from when I'd been kind of, you know, shoved down a couple of steps and I was weeping like an old woman for an hour.
And I was like, oh, I really have to get this out of my system.
I think maybe in the past I've been a little bit...
A little bit blasé when people talked about their trauma.
A little bit kind of cavalier when people talked about, you know, stuff kind of lingering with them, but I get it now.
And I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
the
The two so
We got a. We ain't done yet.
You know what?
This is what I'm going to have.
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Man, that was it for the menu today.
That was
good.
I
gotta tap in with that journey with coach Erica menu.
You need to he said he was disorientated.
He was off track.
He fell and weep for an hour.
That's what he said.
Like an
like an old woman.
was sexist.
Right.
Like why you have to say that?
Why?
Like wow.
Old woman.
He ain't even sexist agency.
That's why he in a position because he also a little bit
racist.
He said I can get off of the racism a little bit because I've been in that position, but
human ageism.
I'm gonna still be on
that until
somebody.
you feel bad for him right
he said He didn't realize you didn't know how much trauma was in those those events Took a tumble.
He was shoved all types of crazy.
I don't feel
Hello.
All right.
Hello.
A lot.
Come on now.
And then they look at us when it's the time of need.
Everybody, I don't know why it is, why I do know why it is.
to come out to the hell.
On this time, they looking at the African-Americans.
You don't know how it feels to protect us.
You guys are so
loud.
Y'all's like, shut up complaining.
Y'all always talking about race as a good ol' brick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And now
we're here.
And that's what every, like every group of like, bro, it's just ridiculous.
Like when you think about the feminist movement, when you think about the African-American like racism that we face, when you think about all these things, everybody looks at us like, hey, y'all been through, y'all should help us out.
And it's like, yeah, we've been through it.
And when we went through it, y'all told us to shut up.
And y'all was standing behind the opposition.
Y'all like, yeah, I don't know what their issue is.
And then when it turned on y'all, y'all like, you know what, let's go over here.
Right,
they
aren't nice you guys are right and there it just it's mind-boggling to watch so many meaning
mega
influencers Yeah, like they're like slowly, but surely all of them I didn't know I was gonna be like this and I genuinely don't I want to know what propaganda they were looking at because it's not like they were hiding Like everything they said they were gonna do they are doing it.
I won't do that.
Very obvious everything aside from the positive campaign promises.
That's the crazy part of it The positive campaign promises y'all ain't get that but all the negative stuff we said was gonna do all the stuff that was obviously going to affect people negatively we doing it a Lot of people are
I feel like being empathetic toward like the MAGA people that are figuring out, oh, things aren't going the way we thought it would go.
That's why they scrambling now.
Y'all could be your own little universe, because I don't want to be around people that don't understand pain until it's at their front door.
Don't wait till anything is at your front door to act on it.
Injustice is injustice.
You don't have to be like, you know what, it ain't me.
Yeah, because it could be you.
And it's mind boggling to believe these people don't even believe it could ever be them.
I think that was just I think that was just about it.
Thursday.
Oh You were gonna tell us about the South South Africans
that's what you were looking at.
I was
they
Like they was playing for a soccer team or something, huh?
up.
We be stressing Zach out.
He like, dang it, we only got two minutes.
Y'all try to play videos.
Y'all don't have enough
time.
They never mind y'all
can see the video
But now
you can definitely Pull it up if you like on YouTube or whatever the case may be Humanity humility Who deserves it who gets it man?
Let's not be so insensitive that we think that we are Superman or superwoman and that
Other people's stresses because we think we're strong enough to carry them or go through them that That means that it's not real for them or something serious to them because how we feel is not somebody else's reality and That's all I got man.
Let's get rid of the divides the generational divide between black people
the immigration divide between black people, and the black and brown women, the black woman and the black man divide, man.
We gotta work on that.
We can't let them keep pulling us and separating us at every corner, because at the end of the day, they treat us all the same.
Don't even think that they don't.
Shannon, take us home, man.
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Hello, that's what I needed.
That's why I'm off the game.
No, I'm just... Don't go anywhere.
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This is the award-winning one on one seven the truth We talking about humanity today y'all and I I like this topic Shannon.
I really do it might spill over
It might spill over.
Listen, I saw
one and I was like, you know what?
And the double standards on who gets humanity or who who deserves it?
So I think the first thing that I saw was did you already get a chance to mention the two stories we gonna talk about?
So I think one of the stories what made me I think it more so So there was somebody that was very supportive of
Trump's deportation rules and like very loud about it.
Just a huge supporter.
And he got a taste of his own medicine.
Essentially, he ended up pretty much being deported and seeing how what his reaction was.
And, um, in some sense, like a lot of people do have empathy for those situations as well, because there's a lot of supporters that are like, now like, we didn't know.
Oh,
like,
bro, what do you mean you didn't know that man said we was going to, you thought he was playing.
Right.
So.
You got people that are kind of empathetic about it.
Like, oh, okay, like, you know, they deserve a second chance.
Thankfully they waking up now.
But in my eyes, I'm like...
No, because we pick and choose who gets humanity and who we understand these people being crime these people been saying the conditions are horrible the people been saying that they being abused and terrorized while being deported or Treated away where a lot of them aren't criminals like it's not like y'all just looking for criminals y'all are deported regular old people just trying to live a day life and make some money so it's like
watching that man babble and cry, it just kind of irritated me.
Like, man, shut up.
Ain't nothing wrong with you.
Because y'all wasn't, like when other people was crying and saying this was going on, nobody had any type of humility toward them.
But now, because you understand it, you expect people to care.
And like, I don't know.
It just got me thinking about a whole another situation where somebody was treated inhumanely and it pretty much ended badly for that person.
So where was the humility then?
And it's not the first case where people that are immigrants have been harassed, have been terrorized, have been treated less than and nobody cares until it's at their front door.
So that's kind of what really how my brain was working in that topic really.
Let's get into this first segment of
Humanity and I want y'all to sit with this situation too because I'll be honest with you.
I didn't I didn't know about this on particular situation and it's a sad story and Yeah, let's get into it Shannon
Okay, so we got two stories here today cousins.
All right, so first is the heartbreak and death of Perry Dahmas bill does it
I'm
Pierre.
Pierre Bell.
He Haitian.
That's Pierre
So Pierre was just 20 years old.
He was Haitian, a college student at Wright State University in Ohio, an athlete, and according to his family, a young man who came to this country trying to build a future.
Pierre legally entered the United States in 2024 through a government authorized immigration process.
He later lost his immigration protections.
And
while his case was moving through the system, ICE placed the GPS ankle monitor on him July 29th.
His family says the monitor completely changed him.
His father said Pierre fell humiliated He felt like people were looking at him as if he were a criminal.
He repeatedly faced bullying in school because of it My kids are you know, I'm especially some
Man, he he had dreams of playing college soccer and now he was walking around campus with a giant government tracking device strapped to his ankle Pierre himself wrote publicly about the humiliation essentially asking how am I supposed to go to school and play sports looking like I've committed some crime then on August 31st
Just weeks after the monitor was placed on him, authorities say Pierre pulled his vehicle over on Interstate 70 and walked into traffic.
He was struck and killed.
And yeah, his family believes he died by suicide.
He was 20 years old.
In Dice's response, the agency confirmed that they put the monitor on him, but rejected the idea that I should be blamed for his death.
Now, obviously no single policy or event can automatically explain why someone dies by suicide.
Mental health is complicated, but also, but I also don't think we can ignore that Pierre himself was saying before he died, telling people that he's ashamed, he's embarrassed.
He felt like he was being treated like a criminal.
And then you asked the question,
Why was the ankle monitor even necessary for
this
particular young man in the first place?
He was going to college.
He had a pending immigration case.
He wasn't hiding.
He wasn't running.
He was literally trying to go to school.
What danger was this 20 year old student supposedly presenting that required him to walk around with this GPS strap to his ankle?
And then we get into the second story.
Well, before we get
brother Z also has a video.
Questions being raised in Ohio after a Haitian immigrant and college freshman apparently took his own life after losing his protected immigration status.
Ice recently fitted 20 year old Pierre Damas Bell with an ankle monitor.
His family says the shame prompted him to walk into the path of a truck on Interstate 70.
A local pastor read a statement from Bell's father
after my son was outfitted with the ankle monitor.
He felt like he was treated like an animal.
He's a soccer player and he felt embarrassed and humiliated.
Bell came to the US in 2024 to join his parents who'd fled Haiti.
He was an honor student studying neuroscience and planning to go on to medical school.
Recently, posting on social media, I didn't come here to commit a crime or hurt anyone, but the Trump administration has revoked temporary protected status for Haitian nationals.
Arguing temporary means just that.
Temporary.
Ohio's Republican governor is criticizing the administration's approach.
Was it really wise to look at someone like that and say, you know, we're gonna kick you out of the country?
We'll put ankle monitor on you.
to me just doesn't make any sense.
Immigration authorities have been ramping up arrests.
Sources say 50,000 people in the U. S illegally were detained last month alone, including 2100 in New York, described by Homeland Security as criminals.
Back to Pierre Damas Bell, Homeland Security did not comment on the case, but we should note immigration officers have used ankle monitors for decades, including under Democratic administrations.
Karen Wall ABC News.
super unfortunate.
Yeah,
And we we sticking on humanity.
We sticking on humanity.
He says, how am I supposed to?
go to school and play sports looking like I've committed some type of crime.
Now, what I'm interested in, like they didn't say what caused him to lose his protection.
I'm sure it was some policy that was changed.
Yeah, that's probably all it was.
It wasn't anything he did.
I think they said in the story, the protections have been lifted for Haitian immigrants for some reason.
You got
I will butcher it.
Didn't they win like a war?
Like they actually fought back against slavery and pretty much won, right?
Yeah.
First
then-
wouldn't play.
If I'm
try to demonize patients, too.
That's why they also try to demonize, you know what?
I feel like that's also why they demonize like hoodoo and voodoo and stuff like that as well.
Cause I don't think essentially those practices are bad.
come on.
That's why I said, look, we, we.
Can't do that, but
Literally literally that's a hey, I know some stuff, but
I Got one percent church in me.
got a cousin that go to church
He said, how am I supposed to go to school?
How am I supposed to play sports?
Kids picking on him.
I'm ashamed.
I'm embarrassed.
I feel like I'm being treated like a criminal.
This is somebody who came to the country legally through a government authorized immigration process, which meaning he paid
to come here because they ain't free to just go through the government process and say, oh, yeah, I'm
coming
20 years old talking about humanity, how a country makes people feel.
And we got some comparisons to some immigrants that came from South Africa.
They wasn't placed on ankle monitor.
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We talking about humanity today.
Humanity is on the menu.
Humanity is awesome.
Sounds like it been on the menu.
Man.
They eating it.
I'm telling you.
They taking
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you, man, humanity is on the menu.
And we talking about Pierre de Maas Bell.
He was 20 years old.
College student Haitian college student at Wright State University in Ohio.
He was an athlete.
All right.
If you just joining us, we just filling you in.
A three three.
Two one two ten seventeen.
That's the number to dial a three three two one two ten seventeen is the number to dial.
So Shannon broke this story down.
But now we just really about to go into it as we talk about humanity.
All right.
He said, how am I supposed to go to school and play sports looking like I've committed some crime?
I'm ashamed.
I'm embarrassed.
I feel like I'm being treated like a criminal.
So much so that a week after.
A week, a week after.
They put this ankle monitor on him.
He walked into oncoming traffic on the interstate.
It ended the embarrassment, the shame.
The bullying.
And then ice response is like, yeah, we put it on him, but we are not to blame.
All right, we ain't do it.
We ain't push him.
That'd be that type of response.
We didn't push him.
Right.
We didn't drive him there.
But mentally, we didn't give him the road.
Well, we we gave him the road, but he on itself.
That's what that be.
Exactly and I feel like a lot of these situations is where like
People don't understand like you coming from a different country already and like I can only imagine like he in Ohio So like you can only imagine like fitting in being hard enough You know I'm saying and then around a certain demographic of people they already judging you they already look at you a certain way You trying to find yourself and then they put a big old ankle monitor on you so you know you know them people was bullying him You know they was looking at him like a criminal
You can't sit down and explain everybody.
I'm actually an immigrant.
I didn't do anything wrong But they put it on me because some policies got and in my bank account like you can't sit there and explain that to everybody Especially when they already have these preconceived judgments of you So you can only imagine what he was going going through and not to mention people already going through enough out here And then and then this for what and then dog power on to people for what?
can only imagine how he was being treated.
I don't even think they caught it.
But now I'm going to ask it again.
You asked why was an ankle monitor necessary for this particular young man in the first place?
You highlighted that he was going to college.
You even highlighted that he had a pending immigration case.
So he ain't going nowhere
Right he was doing it the right way already.
It ain't like off.
Yep.
You got me.
I was sneaky and no he was doing things the right way There was no reason for this
833 212 1017 is the number to dial 833 212 1017 is the number to dial How do you feel about this is ankle monitors necessary in this case because
We had another situation before we go to this next story when we talking about people who They said they would flee they fled I can't remember what they said they were fleeing but the South Africans the white South Africans in the middle of our immigration crisis We rolled out the red carpet They said they were they were fearing for their lives in South Africa because Africans
Was taken back to land that day unrightfully was holding on to But they didn't have ankle monitors when they came into the country, let me see if I could See if I can pull up down on the
South Africa carpet literally.
It laid it out
No hassle, hassle free like mattress firms.
I don't even think they
Man, they probably had most
And
they ain't get no sandwiches tossed at them.
They have to
your
Hey, I'm doing okay, but you know, I'm just being honest with you.
This is kind of like a serious issue, because, you know, I'm just being honest, you know, a young kid like that committing suicide, you know, it's kind of deep.
You know, I said that, you know, I'm being honest with you, I was a high school teacher for more than 20 years.
I watch a lot of these little young kids, some of them kind of proud of those ankle bracelets.
You know what I mean?
But people from other countries, people from other countries are not.
And the thing that really got me was, is, you know,
Why couldn't they just give him a government-issued cell phone?
It's right there every place you go.
Just like you can cut off an ankle bracelet if you want to run.
You can throw away a phone in the same way.
I mean, you know what I
you mean.
And it
Or a change in entertainment
Yeah.
And I'm being honest with you.
I played four years of college sports.
And I couldn't even imagine trying to play, you know,
I'll play basketball.
I remember we used to try to play with the ankle weights on.
You know, trying to increase our vertical leap.
And I can't even imagine trying to play with some flip flopping.
You know, while I'm trying to learn, trying to move to the left, trying to move to the right, I couldn't even imagine even one there.
You know, even going to a stadium, you know, with something like that on my ankle.
You know what I mean?
The embarrassment behind it.
The mental
Yeah, now I'm just saying to myself I look at all these comments on the internet, you know, it's just say That it just seems like instead of our country moving forward.
We didn't move back I'm being honest, which I ain't gonna say one step but seem like some of us to move back 10 steps
Yeah.
Thank you.
And then the real thing that's killing me is everybody to move away from the Nolan Ware store.
Yep.
Yep.
Everybody them for God that it's been almost six weeks.
Still ain't no autopsy.
Still ain't no grand jury.
You know, this is Mississippi.
This is what we supposed to, you know, be, you know, just supposed to accept.
Hmm.
Yeah, and that's why I said that you know, we didn't you know, I don't know It's just like it's just seem like we have just become just too complacent to accept certain things certain injustices out here.
It shouldn't really even be a kind
cuz I really feel for that young man's family ain't no way I would want to bury my 19 year old son
Thank you for calling.
Thank you for calling the lunch break man
He right.
He right.
Yeah.
He right.
Why they had to put him why they had to put him through that type of process as a college student, somebody that came through the process.
We talking about humanity.
How
we
dug up the arrival obviously involved.
He was obviously like involved with so many different things too.
I feel like I saw like a ROTC uniform.
He was in sports.
He was going to college like, well, he's not a threat.
Didn't have criminal history.
What more do y'all want?
And like he said, I like as far as sports, like I read somewhere that he did like end up not being able to play sports, something that he loved because of the ankle monitor, like the balance and flopping around and the embarrassment altogether kind of.
took that away so it's like it's super unfortunate and there had to be other ways and like I also thought about that too like some some kids might think it looked cool but like like he said coming from like a different country it doesn't look cool and then at the same time he's
operating in a different space.
He's in college.
You know what I'm saying?
When we talk about kids that might think that look cool, it's probably some, you know, kids from the hood that's just, you know what I'm saying?
Like, oh, look what I did.
Like, yeah, but like, once you like are elevating and you're on a different level, that type of stuff ain't cool no more.
You know what I'm saying?
He's in college.
He's from a different country.
Like, imagine just having to consistently explain why you have an ankle monitor on.
When they already looking at you as a criminal before that and you already have to like stand apart from the crowd
Yeah, and as an immigrant when you come to this country they take their education very seriously So before we go to break I dug up the oh the welcome package that the South African Africanas
Got the arrival and support Special flights groups arriving in Africana's has landed at airports like Washington DC dualists international and chartered planes Arranged by the government.
They got financial aid income and refugee.
You know what?
Let's go to break
It's going to take too much time to read all of these.
All these packages that these are.
When they came off with a little flags off the plane.
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Humility.
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It's a funny conversation happening in the group chat right now.
And this is the importance, right, of black people understanding the differences.
We ignorantly lump.
Black American experiences together and want.
Black immigrants.
To have the same response or understanding.
And I think it shows a huge disconnect of people having.
Or showing humility.
To the entire.
diaspora of black people.
I was born in the United States Virgin Islands because my mother who was an immigrant.
Came to the country.
My father who was an immigrant came to the country.
We.
so much as black man.
This is what I've seen as black.
Like, I hate how we don't take a second before we just say things.
We want so many people to understand the black American experience, which we should.
But we so blatantly ignore the black immigrant experience here.
And does it cut?
Easily, the black immigrants don't always understand the black American experience here either.
But that's part of what we was just talking about the other day.
The constant divide.
Yes.
Yes, black people experience embarrassment.
On multiple levels.
On multiple levels every day in this country.
Okay.
Nobody said they didn't.
But to downplay diminish somebody else's cultural experience on what they thought was the land of the free and the home of the brave.
You went through the process properly.
You paid to go through the process and then you get treated like that.
Yeah, that's a mental toll on somebody.
We can sit here and say we right now have a jury that's in deliberate.
They can't figure out whether to send Clancy to jail or not.
But people can find time to understand like, OK.
There's a world where she might.
I can understand her.
We can have so much humility Shannon for a Clancy.
Yeah
Yeah, I feel like it's easier for us as Americans in general even like it's like a Not a self-fulfilling prophecy, but I feel like it's also like a thing black Americans also experience and I think even like
Immigrants, I think all people experience the same thing where when you see whiteness, you can see humility.
You can be like, aw, they can't handle that.
But when you see blackness, you're like, oh, they could toughen up.
They should have been able to handle that.
Why would you, you know what I mean?
I think it's one of those things where for some reason, we see whiteness as needing to be protected.
And they're so fragile.
But when it comes to blackness, when it comes to immigrants,
It's one of them things where like people just feel like all they tough they tough as bullets
They're
gonna be able to take it all and it also spills over the black women like you understand But like I said black people in general black and brown people face a Whole different level of like toughen up you understand people don't even think for a second that maybe maybe we can't handle it Maybe we shouldn't be going through this.
Maybe we don't have to operate in chaos.
Maybe we don't have to operate
fighting for our lives every day.
We don't have to live like that.
Right.
Because somehow, some way, when we see white people struggling, it's, oh man.
Come on now.
They can't handle that.
Let's charter flights for them to come to
aid,
right away Shannon they probably ain't even have to fill out no paperwork
said even white people can can see humility for white people and that's why with the Clancy case Yes, that's exactly why it's easier for her to rally a crowd and when when you think of missing people cases when when a white woman I can't remember her name when missing
after her boyfriend killer, but that's not her story.
You see how people gathered around her and we got to find her.
It was like nationwide.
They was gonna find her.
They had drones outside his parents' house.
But that's another episode for another day, because I'm going too deep into my little, you know, tangent.
But even that girl's father said, he noticed that when she went missing, how people rallied around her.
And he noticed the disparity between black and brown people in his blonde hair blue-eyed daughter So he has a foundation where they help find black and brown people because it was so like it was so enlightening to see like Dang, I never see this type of coverage for nobody.
I'm telling
obvious the obvious answer was oh my kids white
And basic needs or like $4,500 to cover
To cover basic needs per person.
Planned welcome kits.
No ankle monitors though.
But that's the thing.
We've become so accustomed of our community being treated like.
dirt that we don't even realize that across the board, no matter whether you're a black immigrant, African, Haitian, Caribbean, or a black American, you the same.
We all the same.
It's going to be
treated as such when it comes down to certain things.
Especially when you write I feel like a lot of people from different countries are raised their whole lives to think don't come to America and be acting like an American like I had that conversation with somebody a while ago like because
Like not to be, not to bring it there, but a lot of like Africans or Haitians, they're, they're raised to think that African Americans are like, don't be like that.
You know what I'm
saying?
So when
you get here in your whole life, you told, don't you go over there and get to acting like that?
Don't, don't get an ankle monitor.
And like now you have it, even though it's not because of your doing.
There's a mental toll that comes with a young mind like that.
He's 20 years old.
And if he's been raised his whole life
being
told not to act a certain way, not to look a certain way, don't go over there and lose your way and blah, blah.
And now you walk around with this ankle monitor.
And it's not in his head when people are looking at you like you crazy, especially in settings that he would have been in if he's playing sports, if he's in college,
Ohio.
You know what I'm saying?
So you know they're looking at him crazy.
They're already looking at you crazy because you're not like.
And
that's been banging your head for 20 years you have to understand how how
Much of a deep cut that would be to feel like I'm doing the thing that Americans are doing like and I'm not trying to say it's okay that they're taught that or that they believe that
it's just something that It's true
you have to understand
another divisive tool or measure to keep black Americans and black immigrants From getting on the same page.
It's propaganda
It's propaganda.
They show immigrants an image of what black Americans is, and then they paint an image of what black immigrants look like to black Americans.
Now we hear today.
Yep, where we got some folks that don't even understand.
Yeah, let's go talk to Miss Sandra from Milwaukee because it's Sandra.
How are you doing?
You live with the lunch break crew?
OK, I'm going to say that again.
I'm fine.
How are we doing today?
I'm good.
I'm good.
We doing good.
It's good to hear from you.
Okay.
Okay.
Uh, I like listening.
Um, you were talking about, um, uh, the guy, the kid that committed suicide.
It took me back to that guy and Nancy, Nancy, Michigan, when he, uh, he ran from the police and he fell and the police shot him in the back of the head.
Mm hmm.
It was Patrick Lyola or something like that.
And every time I saw that, you could just see it was deliberate.
He opened his fingers and shot that man in his brain stem.
But anyways, my point is they use us.
That's the big agenda to say to their white people, we're gonna not take care of them.
We're gonna take care of you.
So they use everything bad to say negative thing about us.
So their white people will be afraid of us and call us criminals, you know, just like this kid.
He was being bullied.
You know, they just use anything.
I've been on the low, I've been taking my time I feel like I'm out of my mind It feel like my life ain't mine Who can relate?
I've been on the low, I've been taking my time I feel like I'm out of my mind It feel like my life
right?
ain't seen
our
I
that's the one that's like
Super, uh, he's very white passing with the glasses.
Then he got a brother.
He got
a brother.
He got a brother that looked black
as
hell.
That's funny as hell.
That'll keep me funny.
Like people, like mixed people that are white passing and then they have a brother that looked like completely different.
He's like, wait a minute.
Man,
I'm telling you.
They're the ones the movies be about.
Like nobody knew they was, it was actually black.
I saw this Black Mirror episode where he was a mixed dude and then he was passive for like, he usually identified as white, but he was Poe.
And he went and checked the black box because he was really mixed and then he started dressing more black so he could get this scholarship.
So he could get this scholarship to stay in the school and whatnot.
But man we talking Then they
started
treating him like The
Man, hello, you don't get the same cushion.
we're
It is a good conversation.
that's why I made the point to go
No, that's why I made the point to say like a lot of people would say like well They didn't drive him there and like you said but mentally they did it's the same way you say well, I Didn't hang them, but you gave them the rope
don't know what people going through and it's been situations where people will coerce somebody into suicide That's not okay.
Even though they didn't do it
It's still not okay.
So I so was ice like in my
13th reason.
Exactly.
Could have been.
Man, I had to stop watching that show, too.
Yeah, I had that
No, thanks.
But we don't know, man, what people are mentally going through.
We don't know.
So for us to just cast our blanket statements and feelings of how we would have operated if we was in that situation or what we would have not done To ourselves is like that's cool that works for you and yourself, but that didn't work for Pierre We not Pierre
And he shouldn't have been in this situation to begin with and it just takes a little humility
and understanding to understand that.
Not everybody can handle that.
Yeah, respectfully.
Because it's already difficult enough.
A lot of these black bodies as being hanged in Nolan Wells, people are rushing to label our thing suicide.
But when the mental toll of being black in America or being a black immigrant in America is too much Suicide ain't that important of a topic no more to take serious Because we wouldn't have did it to ourselves We don't know what it drives us to the brink
We would love to believe that we have the mental strength to hold on, and we have the support system to hold on.
We didn't drive them there, but did we help them?
Did we
reach out?
Like I said, a lot of these people putting these things on people, they wouldn't dare do that to nobody that looked like them.
But we OK being like, oh, well, we should be stronger.
No, we shouldn't.
We shouldn't have to deal with this type of stuff and we need to be more empathetic toward each other.
Yeah.
might be the world for somebody might
Yeah, it's a lot of traumatic stuff that like people will laugh at.
Like, I like I remember seeing the TikTok like me and my siblings laughing at the trauma we went through growing up and like the reaction from our friends be so different.
And it's true because it's like some stuff is like.
Yeah, I went through that, but it was a normal day in the life for me.
But what's a normal day in the life for you could be a life changing situation for somebody else.
And we have to be more understanding of that.
Like you said, like we can't put like even those people that are like, well, I went through it when I was growing up.
So they should be able to take it.
No, it shouldn't be like that.
That's how we stay stuck in a cycle of hurt and pain and just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks.
That's literally how we stay stuck by.
just assuming everybody should be able to go through these traumatic things.
Everybody should be able to just take it and go on with their life.
That's not how it works.
And
it's not fair because I feel like the majority of the people that do it is black and brown people.
Well, I went through it growing up.
I was abused growing up.
They should be fine.
Man, I ain't messed
You hear that all the time?
We don't know what to some people used to seeing that type of behaviors or certain things.
Some people that's normal to them.
They normal.
It's normal to see somebody walking around with an ankle monitor.
And nobody gonna bully you at school for ankle monitor, but but we not in the community that he's in we not from where he's from to know what's gonna happen or how it was how heavy it was on him Soccer could have been his life.
They just athlete said when they came play they be so depressed and messed up as a Haitian
lot
He was gonna play in college couldn't do that But they said oh it's temporarily, but I mean a lot of things that they said temporary We've been going through it for years.
pretty sure
long and the mental effects probably could have lasted a lifetime I'm
like just the interaction with ice itself having a I mean
Feel like having to go through that
type of
yeah go through those buildings or the cells or you know getting fingerprinted seeing Half of them in like army uniform like a come on man
And knowing and seeing the stories that we see on the streets.
You don't even know if you're gonna make it all up I can only imagine as a black American We know what it feels like being pulled over by the police.
I'm sure that's the same feeling that these people feel when they see ice agents coming in Well, I'm just gonna get a fingerprint done and go back home.
You don't know if you're going back home.
I don't know what's gonna happen.
Sometimes going back home ain't an option.
what's
Haiti right now?
People are fleeing that man, even Mexico is like bro like a lot of the it stresses me out because a lot of these people have what is it called?
It's like some type of like protection there