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She talked about a lot in that book and um passed away last night sadly like
Yep, so she was just doing kind of like a room for that, like doing a lot of interviews and talking about that because she did have a rough go.
She had a daughter and she talked a lot about postpartum depression and stuff like that.
Her daughter's dad was like a famous boxer and she didn't have custody of her daughter, but she did talk about that relationship as well.
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Yeah.
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We want to talk about the teacher that was crying over his students who can't read.
Then we also want to talk about the Chicago volunteer who got sentenced for turning in.
a confiscated gun to the police.
And yeah, he got sentenced for that.
What?
Yep.
Damn.
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So I am on my lunch break it is I don't know 11 30 or something like that and I Just finished a
three-hour class We have what's called block and block is where first and second periods are combined for subjects They need it and so I literally broke down in the middle of class because I'm teaching seniors These kids are leaving high school
and go into college, hopefully, after they finish.
We had two paragraphs to read.
One sentence complete to write.
I gave them the sentence stamps.
I basically completed the sentence for them in the model.
He's a 17 and 18 year old kid.
And they couldn't fill in four words.
Four words.
You're stupid.
I gave them the scenario.
We annotated together.
I gave them the answers before we even had the problem.
and they couldn't do it.
I don't know.
I simply don't know where the problem is.
This is only day two and I have seniors who simply cannot read and seniors who cannot write.
They cannot write.
They can reason.
They have the ability to defend their reasoning if it's talking to their homeboy, but applying that to a written text, two paragraphs.
And they couldn't do it.
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Darius was crying.
Darius was crying, Shannon.
He called on Jesus.
I wasn't trying to laugh.
But he was he was he was pissed
pushing them through left left them behind.
I got some of them interested stats though.
Real quick, right?
Yeah.
Federal data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress shows high school seniors reading scores have dropped to their lowest since 1992.
Only about 35 percent of 12 graders read at a proficient level and nearly a third 32 percent score below the basic level.
Meaning the struggle to find basic details or understand a text.
Now we're just talking about high school students.
I would love to have a show where we spend some time about adults reading levels and comprehension and so forth as well.
So just off of that before we go any further, what's your thoughts Shannon?
Well, it doesn't even start at home.
That's where it needs to be pushed.
With all the knowledge we have about kids just getting pushed through no matter what, it's more important than ever for us to also make sure our kids are reading and understanding.
But somebody else says something interesting.
So I made a status on Facebook, right?
And I said, hearing that these high school students can barely read is super disturbing.
And I got some interesting comments.
Look, can I read these comments?
Please
So somebody said, they are.
Somebody said, it's by design.
And someone else said that they'd love to hear what that theory was.
Let me read the names because that'll make it easier to follow what's happening.
So skies sky McLeod said it is by design Richard said I'd love to hear that theory sky said it's not a theory Simon chimes in and says keep people dumb equals keep them dependent on the government equals easy to control and tell people what they can and cannot do Which I found interesting comment in
I agree with completely.
We have JT Sandos say, we went to school with their parents and they struggled.
You
But then somebody under said homeschooling is the way.
So homeschooling, I don't think it is.
I mean, what J said above is true.
We did go to school with their parents and we know exactly why they doing what they doing at State Fair because they mommos is in the clubs, cracking people over the head with bottles as we speak.
hydrated and I'm back with more actually look Somebody said I don't know if I I've met some homeschool kids that were great with certain subjects, but lack lack critical thinking
And in some few, not few cases, social skills.
I'm not saying all, but in my experience, this has been some of what I've seen.
And then Christopher said, this isn't anything new.
Bre Jeanelle said, when they took out reading, writing and cursive, I knew we were all screwed.
Rome Wills said, no child left behind act at the CIA have been winning.
And then I think she is a teacher.
Her name is Jasmine.
She said, every year I do my students learning objective on reading or writing, because when I get incoming freshmen, they do not know how, when to use capitalization, punctuation, grammar, how to read multi-syllabic words, segment blending or suffixes.
It's also so difficult to teach students who are behind while forcing yourself to try to teach where they're supposed to be.
So then you don't contribute to them being behind.
So basically she's saying you're teaching stuff that they should have been learned, but you also are being
forced to
doing
Another commenter said it was planned.
They were labeling kids that they didn't want to deal with as behaviorally.
Oh, deal with behaviorally is learning disabled and created no child left behind so you can graduate with all of your lessons not complete.
And somebody said, just stop passing on period.
Yeah, people had a lot to say about that one.
Give a couple more stats than the phone lines is going crazy a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 that is a number to die We're gonna get to some calls in a second right after these stats.
We're talking about the reading levels of high school seniors But right now proficient or above 35% of seniors can read well understand complex texts and draw conclusions I think that was very important the draw conclusions part
Right.
I don't think people understand how important that is to draw good conclusions.
Um,
All
So listening to some of them comment Shannon and hearing, you know, kids not even knowing where to use the right punctuations and all of these other things.
It brings me back to our conversation we had when we talk about human consumption.
And these social tools where we think emojis is a language.
And young people are just texting and emojis and having full blown conversations and acronyms.
And so forth.
And that's how they let we put our kids in front of these screens from babies.
But let's go to a meal on the call.
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No, I heard that.
And God, my heart, my heart breaks, though, because I saw that video and I can see the pain in that teacher's eyes.
And, um, you know, charity begins at home, right?
And, and, and this whole stuff is, it's by design.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
Because there's a thing though, these kids can, they're smart.
Did we see how savvy they are on social media?
You know, they are smart, right?
But again, it's because of the expectations that we set, because people can only rise to the expectations you set for them, right?
Because I'll tell you this, you won't talk about a situation where circumstances where I want to bore people.
I moved to this country when I was 16.
My grandmother would not graduate from the fifth grade until she was 60-something years old, right?
And she always wanted to go to school.
She got married at 15 and had about 10 kids.
It just wasn't possible for her back in the sixes and up.
But she always wanted to learn.
Because even though my parents, my grandparents, none of them want to call it.
And my dad, my father farming, all that stuff, right?
There was this expectation that's set for you.
Now you got to do XYZ.
Reading, that's the basic.
But the problem is the parents are out there downtown at Casa Blanca smoking hookah.
than being at home teaching your kids or sending those expectations and all of that stuff.
These kids are the experts, they're the product of the expectations that we as society is placed on them.
So none of that, oh yeah, the system, that's crap.
The system, I don't know if I can say crap, but that's crap opinion, but the system may be important to them.
We've got to take responsibility.
We're talking about this imaginary hand.
And it's not rocket science.
It has never been easy.
Think about this.
There has never been more information ever than any point in time in history.
Somehow people are dumber.
And it's because we don't apply agency because we have determined what's important and what's not.
If you think education is important, if you think if a parent makes reading important, writing important, it becomes important.
The rest of it is BS.
That's not to say that there aren't rules, strategic and structural issues.
But when it comes to background and level, get out of here.
Stop smoking.
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We're talking about reading man
Some of the core issues, this is from research, right?
From PBS.
There's a lot of where this research is coming from.
Start citing our sources.
So folks know we ain't just saying things up here.
One of the core issues they are citing is pandemic disruptions.
I don't know how I feel about that.
I felt like folks couldn't read before the pandemic.
But pandemic disruptions, they're saying the class of 2024 faced school closures and long stretches of virtual learning during critical middle and early high school years.
Here's one that I think is.
Could be attributed attributed to it rising absenteeism chronic student absences increased sharply across the country after the pandemic So a lot of folks just staying home And here's another good one screen time and distractions heavy use of social media and digital devices has shortened attention spans and cut down on deep
Reading time.
Hmm.
It was all good just a week ago.
Lowered accountability.
This is the one we're talking about.
Reduced emphasis on strict test based academic standards in many districts allowed struggling students to pass without catching up.
And.
They didn't cite this in lowered accountability, but I would like to add our parental involvement
Yeah, and I think that also goes hand in hand with the mention of screen time because instead of having that involvement a lot of people just give their kids tablets a lot of people just kind of put them in a room with a TV and
And, you know, at halftime, it ain't even listening to what?
Bluey and Miss Rachel, they got them watching baddies on the table.
Fightin' with hands and feet.
Hold on now.
That ain't Bluey.
That ain't Miss Rachel.
So it is a lot to do with, I think, parental involvement and too much screen time.
And honestly, what they're watching during that screen time is a big issue, too.
Like I said, I can't say the CIA is not involved.
They're always involved.
But I will say we do have the resources to try to fix that.
It's up to you to be like, listen, what are your grades like?
What are you struggling in?
If I got a miss a weekend, a hookah and drinks with the ladies, I might have to buy, get you a little tutor if I ain't the smart one.
That's
operate
they do
lie on
OK.
Now, I'm going to speak as a retired educator.
My principal gave me the lowest performing kid.
We had three reading groups.
One of the teachers had high performers.
One of them had the on-level one, and I got the lowest level because she knew at the time I had got my reading license.
I was also teaching out the cardinal stretch.
I had a block from 9 a.m.
We were late school to 10 30 a.m.
Where I did intensive work with those students that I had to bring them on level.
It didn't help that some people thought bringing their kids there at 10, 10, and I were in 10 minutes after I started the intervention would help.
What the union had done years before is they said, I can't teach an empty desk.
And I told parents and grandparents that who gave me the excuse their child didn't want to get up.
they couldn't get in the school.
I said by nine o'clock and so let's look at why our kids can't read on level.
You've got to be there and you have to be there for those of us who are working like crazy to try to get you on level.
And I even worked after school with MPS with
Team did it with a young man and he said, I'll do math.
I said, I'll do reading.
Yes, it broke my heart that I had people who were 18 and 19 and couldn't read.
But I was going to work my hardest.
At least you're here after school.
You didn't come in the morning when the reading block is the first thing we do because we figured after you eat,
your mind is fresh and whatever and we can get all of this intervention in for you.
So let's remember, let's not just blame the teachers, it's everybody.
And when you talked about Ms.
Rachel, I laughed because I have two granddaughters.
And when I have that on, I'm also still teaching, although I retired.
I say two, and I said red.
Three.
green.
We're doing the sign language that she does.
See, there's lots of things you can do with that.
You don't just sit the kid there and say, no, I'm done.
I can go in another room.
always have to have that intervention.
You always have to have that hand gone with your kids.
And yes, that's from a baby on up.
But like I said, it broke my heart.
that I'd be there at 9 to 10 30 in the morning, ready to work in my same student that I really needed to be there, work there to get that learning.
So just another point of view for you to look at.
Like she said, it's not just on the teachers, it's on the parents.
They just simply didn't feel like getting up early and I'm sure there's other excuses and there are other reasons like depression and all these other things that go on in our communities.
But it's also one of those things where sometimes you just gotta fight through it or figure out a way or find a resource that can get that kid to school because sometimes kids, what I have found in her, some of these kids do wanna go to school.
but you got the parents, their only way of getting there, too lazy to get up in the
The bare minimum and like she said with miss Rachel like The first step is yeah put them in front of the TV especially when they're younger like I know when they get older like 10 and up It's it gets a little more difficult to be able to control them or kind of
spike their interest in certain things.
But when they're 10 and under, this is when you are laying the foundation for a lifetime of whatever they're gonna be doing.
That's when you can make reading interesting.
That's when you can make it fun.
If you sit down next to your child and you're watching Ms.
Rachel and you're picking up what Ms.
Rachel is putting down and you're able to incorporate that in your all day today, that makes it even better.
But it's really up to the parents to really try our hardest.
Yeah, we got a text message that said COVID, question mark.
What were the stay at home parents doing?
Busting up that stimulates check money.
That's what I mean, like we said, but I do I do say COVID did.
Yeah, COVID.
What were they stay at home parents doing?
And it says a lot.
Again, about parent involvement being 100% necessary in these situations.
Like, why can't your kid read?
Like, y'all never, hey, read the sentence to me.
Let's read this paragraph together.
What'd you get from that?
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Welcome back y'all Shannon.
Ah, this is um, it's been a
Interesting conversation.
I know we've spoken before about the education levels and the reading levels, but now I think, you know, as I get older, as funny as it sounds in that comment that you read, but it made so much sense, right?
It was like, we went to school with their parents.
They couldn't read even.
You know, but it's like we hand down these things to our our families instead of breaking the cycles You know what I mean like yeah, we don't read what happened to bedtime stories
Like
can read a little
They can do a little, you know what I'm saying, a little one, two.
And that simply could spark a child's interest in reading.
Like I want my child to be smarter than I am.
So if I can't do it, I'm going to find the resources to get it done.
Like I said, save that little hook of change and take your baby to a tutor.
Sit there with him.
Man pick up a pick up a thing or two It really made me think too About when we said like these kids are watching things like baddies and you know everything else, right?
Fred look now I'm look going back to slavery time y'all cuz I literally saw this other day and I'll say huh that makes sense so that Fred Fredrick Douglas was Born an enslaved child and he was secretly taught to read by his enslaved enslaved life
You're sick.
I'm like, what's that music coming from?
He was secretly taught to read by his enslaver's wife.
When her husband objected, Douglas understood something important.
If enslaved people could read, they could begin to understand injustice of slavery and imagine a life beyond it.
They could understand the world beyond slavery and develop their own voice and ideas.
So it just makes me think like you are doing your child a disservice by not.
Teaching them to read effectively like to understand like just to be more curious About a world outside of what we're living in and I think a lot of times that is the issue
their
they just,
loud
And honestly like the way you start your morning truly does shape your day you like I say like be mindful of how we waking these kids up What we listening to in the morning like I had a period in time where every morning I would play what's that?
the song it goes like um it's gonna be a good day yeah every morning wake up yeah straight on repeat we we got to be mindful about how we shape the mornings and like the comments are saying like not reading into your child is beyond like lazy and a lot of times too like we also mentioned like building imagination matters because like I remember my mom telling me like her uh
She was like, she used to always read these stories to me.
And like years later, she was telling her mom that she was like, she couldn't read.
She couldn't read.
But like, it matters.
It's like my mom's interest in learning.
So it's like, even if you can't read, get you a picture book.
Yeah.
Dang it.
It started using that imagination.
Like you can do more.
Exactly.
Get a little picture book.
It's more than just.
But I guess if they can't read the
Damn.
Do they know what it means to draw
Oh my goodness.
Robert said reading is always going to be fundamental.
Jasmine Jazz West said those kids never had fruits and veggies in the house or cooked meal.
Marty Gray said, I remember the library used to have free tutors.
The government took that away.
Robert.
said, parents that don't read to their kids are beyond lazy jazz is right.
And Jasmine Jazz West said, the book mobile Bible stories for kids, Disney movies with the matching books.
Ooh, yes.
I remember that.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, man.
Or it was like always those magazines or something called highlights.
Yes, make it fun, make it cool again.
Do it with your child, do it with your nephew, whatever kid is around, be that person.
Like I said, my mom said her aunt used to make up stuff, like just act like she could read and she was like, I used to love when she read me books and grandma has to tell it.
Your auntie couldn't read, but she had an imagination.
No, it was definitely, you had to have money to be able to get actual
of the
He said don't be mad at me because I knew how to borrow them.
But you just didn't know it was the clearance rack.
go with the price.
They had the
erasers
Well, we need to open them ways right back up, because I don't believe kids are as excited to read as they should be.
Oh, no, absolutely.
They don't need to really start getting people excited, man.
I also heard that Reading Rainbow was supposed to make a comeback.
Re-launch it?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a different host.
I thought
that
from TikTok is going
Black male librarians make up like 1% of the librarian hood.
I actually interviewed one of my podcasts separate from this.
That's a longer story, but it also just shows how important it is to have those type of role models as well.
So hopefully reading rainbow does come back because it was super it was encouraging and it was good to see somebody like us up there.
Making reading cool, you know.
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We were talking about a few things, predominantly reading and so forth as we transition our segment into some other news surrounding us.
We wanna talk about the Chicago Volunteer.
Who got sentenced?
for turning in a confiscated gun.
So this was confirmed via ABC 7 Chicago and the Chicago Sun Times, both reportedly direct, both reporting directly from the sentencing hearing.
Just so, you know, we sitin' our sources here on the lunch break.
Nikia Smith, 51, a convicted felon.
There it is.
There it is.
I'm sure that's what it had to do with convicted felon who spent 13 years volunteering with Chicago C. R. E. D. and anti violence group run by former U. S. Education Secretary Arnie Duncan walked into a Chicago police station in March 2023 to surrender a gun he says he'd taken off the streets.
Ding, ding, ding.
Because he's a felon, he's legally barred from possessing a firearm.
Police arrested him on the spot.
He faced charges, including being an armed habitual criminal.
That could have carried six to 30 years in prison.
Smith spent seven months in Cook County jail before posting 10 percent of a hundred and fifty thousand dollar bond and being placed on electronic monitoring.
Man, all while continuing his anti-violence volunteer work.
Man,
this month Smith pled guilty to a reduced charge aggravated on lawful possession of a weapon and was sentenced.
Okay, that's what's up.
Was sentenced to time served, meaning the time he'd already spent in custody satisfied the sentence.
At sentencing Smith urged the Chicago Police Department to create an actual pathway for felons to surrender guns without facing prosecution.
Duncan has publicly warned the case sends exactly the wrong message.
I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and said, we're never turning in a gun.
Yeah.
So outcome was time served, right?
So I guess he avoided the worst case scenario.
But this case still took over three years.
and a felony plea to resolve.
So is that really a system working?
So like we've talked about before, a lot of times these kids feel more comfortable
Right dealing with people that They know understand their lifestyle or what they've gone through and sometimes we do have to look to fill in felons or people that have been in the system You know at one point or the other and I don't know what the situation was or how he came
upon this gun, but it could have just been a kid that trusted him and was
Absolutely.
Because you have these violence interrupters that, you know, a lot of times put their lives on the lines to be that person in between.
So many potential crimes so many potential Violence that could have happened and they put their lives on the line and like you said people trust them So it's no telling how it came into his possession Yeah, but I guess I I guess the best outcome for him would have been his time served, but he still had to spend that money
He still had to spend that money
man, they definitely need some type of law that protects the violence interrupters because that's super unfortunate and like like I said, we need those people To intervene we need those people on the streets.
We need those people to talk to our youth that can understand where they're coming from and to not be Crucified when they step in and try to do the right thing, you know,
and things that we have in place, right, to just minimize people with felonies or keep them from really achieving new heights.
It makes me think of what Adam Procell went through, who was... He actually had... They gave him the job, actually.
They gave him the job
and had to
if I'm not mistaken, and due to those changes and it now being its own department, if I'm not mistaken, I think one of the rules was like department heads can't be felons or something like that.
I think that's what it was.
It was something like that.
But we got Amir on the line.
Let's all go talk to brother Amir on the line.
Amir, how you doing, brother?
Wait, peace and blessings, Ray.
Hey, what's happening, Shannon?
Good afternoon.
talking in on the subject with the violence interrupter.
Chicago Cread is one of the organizations in Chicago that we kind of partner with in different modes.
And a lot of people, I don't know if a lot of people understand what CVI is, the people that's used, the people that's used during CVI work is actual felons.
For the most part, people that has a criminal past and probably they're still on parole or probation.
And you might work with a young person that might have a weapon on them.
You don't know.
But you get caught with this young person.
Now, you're subjected to different rules and regulations than just regular people that's not on probation or parole.
So with the Bubba Turner and that firearm, it is discouraging in some aspects because it's like, damn, you try to do the right thing, but it's nothing in place for the people that's actually got the credibility to do the right thing.
There's no legislation there, there's no laws, there's no nothing.
So if we get caught in them situations right there, the law says this has to happen.
And he got a felony on his record because he played guilty to something that was crazy.
Well, I would have to see the case, but in most, in a lot of cases, if you get caught a feather in the possession of a firearm, that's a felony.
If they played him down to something else, I'm not sure.
But most cases is if you get caught with a firearm or the felon, you get another felony.
But it might not be that for his case, I'm not sure.
feeling.
It
But that still makes it a little bit more difficult to do what we should be doing anyway.
Yeah, absolutely.
It makes it a whole lot more harder.
People don't see that.
struggle that some of us, some of us has when we have to constantly be aware of like hyper aware of everything, you know, not just, you know, working with working with the people as we deem at risk, but at the same time, working in the community or somebody might have a weapon.
And if you get caught with it, I'm buying my subject to be charged the same type of way.
You know what I mean?
Being a felon or own parole or probation.
And doing the work out here doing good in the community.
So it's disheartening.
It's really disheartening, but I'm even charging with it, to be honest.
You know how I feel about the work that y'all do.
I commend y'all work.
I think y'all should be paid way more for the work that you all are doing.
Y'all put your lives on the line and folks sending y'all out there with orange shirts and gun locks and asking y'all to keep the peace and almost as sometimes demanding even more success rates than folks who got mm-hmm.
hundreds of millions of dollars to do this work.
So ironically enough, when we get into the meat and potatoes, when we return from this break, we're gonna be talking about Wisconsin, stay fair to fights, the fallouts, why this is happening, and why I do think folks need to privatize that type of work.
Violence intervention work needs to be privatized.
And maybe State Fair should have hired some folks like some CVI interrupters.
Great.
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That was good.
That was good.
That you didn't get.
go?
It was exciting.
on.
I was working on a condo, all types of different other things.
But what happened?
What happened Sunday night, man?
It was the final night.
This is confirmed by CBS 58, WISN, TMJ four and Fox six.
All right.
This is still a developer story at this time.
Siting our sources.
Multiple fights broke out late Sunday, August 16th.
The final night of the Wisconsin State Fair.
175th year.
That was 175 days cutting up.
Inside the fairgrounds near the Spin City Carnival in Spin City.
It's always at the rides.
That's why AfroFest ain't here no
more.
If you're following us on YouTube, we're showing a clip of the melee.
That was going to, I couldn't even, I was like, is this look AI?
But they was going crazy.
It was going crazy.
Multiple videos, multiple fights.
At least one officer was punched in the face.
Damn.
West Dallas police assisted State Fair Park police, responded to the incident.
Large police presence was visible on video shot by Fair Ghost.
Separately, the same night in West Dallas, one person was taken into custody following an assault and shots fired incident.
Officials have not yet confirmed publicly whether it was directly connected to the fairground fights or a separate nearby incident as of this recording.
Stay fair officials and West Dallas police have not released official arrest totals, full injury counts or a detailed account of what triggered the fights.
This remains actively developing.
So yeah, you know.
We got this little inside source where we be hearing some things, right?
So this is not confirmed This is not confirmed.
This is this is unconfirmed But it's something I think worth sharing So what was said is or alleged
Lee, what's allegedly happening was there was this guy who was shooting at people coming out of the fairgrounds.
I don't know how true that is.
We got to do some more research into that.
So to hear that they're
completely different.
So to hear that this was, um, you know, a separate incident that wasn't because there was reports of you saw things like reports of shot fired by the USF IR.
You know how they, that website, not website, but that Facebook account that basically shares everything on the scanner.
So they shared that as well.
And people were saying it was some guy that was, they say it was a white guy that was shooting, unconfirmed.
Let me lead with that.
Unconfirmed.
But what we do know is there was a confirmed arrest.
for assault and shots fired near West Dallas.
They didn't give out no reports on that yet.
But just something to monitor.
What you think, Shannon?
We've been down this road before.
Man.
I'm tired, boss.
I just feel like it's just a shame because if what you're saying is true, we got our kids fighting each other and then you got to walk out of the fairgrounds
in fight the, you know, the mass shooters.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's just like, where do we find peace, right?
And it's just unfortunate that kids somehow find that fun to just terrorize each other or terrorize people that are just there jamily to
enjoy their
Like that's their version of right now.
It's super unfortunate.
That's what's going on.
Like.
I feel like it's it's been a thing, right?
Like when we were younger, like you'd see stuff like that.
But to this degree, maybe maybe I'm just forgetting how bad it was when we were younger.
But it's just like it don't even sound fun to go to the fair at night.
Oh, spin
The
night
It was a missing kid You see somebody there with a missing kid and then I Guess the lady was I guess the lady was coming up to get her kid and I guess the they said I Got you gotta listen to it, but it's a profanity in that video So I don't think we could actually play the audio, but I guess when she came up to get her kid like
The police did like a sweet move on her and you hear somebody like, this our kid.
What you sweep her down for?
Like
a
Yeah, so what I will say, Shannon, is fighting at the fair, it's not just exclusive to this generation, for sure.
I will say that is not exclusive to them.
because my generation, we had, you know, Afrofest.
And back then at Afrofest, they had, they had the pit, remember the volleyball pit?
I don't know if you was the, the volleyball pit, but 860 and Homer Blow.
Used to actually DJ the,
And that's where you would get black music from, because it would be home or blow.
DJ.
And we have fights there, too.
We have fights there, too.
And I even remember in our days at traffic, when we were having traffic, there was a group of individual called the Knockout Boys.
And you didn't want to get caught by KOB.
They was taking you out your car and knocking you out.
So I think the difference I see is a lot of these like fights and thank God nothing happened at this one.
But a lot of these fights nowadays lead to gun violence.
And I think that is part of the issue.
But in our days, we had them for sure.
Probably just didn't necessarily lead to as much violence after violence as it was with them.
Somebody says I was with them.
Jasmine Jazz West said they're gonna move the events outside of the city and Tray 54 37 they're gonna start proposing age restrictions at the fair if they keep it up What I thought what I thought was funny is somebody told me they thought they already were proposing those age restrictions But we can talk about this more after the break you are listening to the award winning one oh one seven the truth.
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If you just joining us, we talking about, yes, our little cousins down to stay fear, man.
We talking about them we talking about but barb was you just saying you was um you was with K.O.B.
But, nah, they, K.O.B.
was on dirt, fuck, so I ain't gonna lie.
They was really, they was on that.
Jasmine said they gonna move, you said this already, right?
They gonna move the events out the city.
They already started.
Greek Fest like in Walkinshaw now.
Greek Fest in Walkinshaw.
I think Bobar said he was with K.O.B.
Yeah, I need to change the way I read those comments.
You the cousin on the good side, Bobar, just remember it was always love with me.
Never was disagreed.
Always kept it respectful.
I'm not at the age to be defending myself.
Or the physique.
My back hurt right now, just sitting in this chair for two hours.
Oh, Bobar said I was getting knocked out by them.
All right, that might be a setup.
I'm still going to watch what I say.
That's how I can't be get you.
They learn you in thinking they were friends.
He was
getting knocked out.
crazy.
is wild.
Yeah, y'all, this is not new, man.
It happens most yet.
That's crazy.
Most years, 2022, state fair officials confirmed 10 separate disturbances in a single Saturday night alone with park police using tactics necessary to mitigate the situation.
Four citations were issued, though nobody was referred.
for criminal charges that year.
The previous more severe incidents saw hundreds of young people leave the fairgrounds and rampage through surrounding West Dallas neighborhoods, smashing car windows, attacking pedestrians, injuring two women badly enough to need hospital treatment.
One needed stitches, another needed surgery.
with State Fair Park's own CEO confirming 24 arrests inside the fairgrounds and seven park police officers injured to hospitalized.
The pattern across these incidents is consistently large teenage slash young adult crowds consistently concentrated in the amusement slash ride area and consistently draws the same public response cycle.
Outrage.
a promise of more signage or security, and then it reoccurs the following year.
They got rid of the, what's the name for a second?
They said, what does K.O.B.
mean?
Knockout boys.
That's what it meant.
That's what the hell it meant.
Damn.
I'm all right, man.
Last year when I worked, I did every day last year and none of that happened last year.
I did emergency response and I tried to order some of their vehicles to the states.
I worked from like four o'clock to midnight every day and it was nothing like that last year.
This whole year being crazy with these kids, being asinine, like we got procedures.
Something like that happened in Lincoln Circle, we shut it down.
They ain't one of them kids, man.
it was people on on staff that should be suspended and wrote up for this procedure that happens when it's a breakout of mayhem and chaos.
ain't supposed to put our hands on nobody.
We just surround them till the police come, then all the million-dollar horses they got,
horses around.
They had them on the outside to kick one of the keys in the head, and that's a lawsuit.
We even had Downsending Keys getting ran over yesterday.
There's gonna be some lawsuits coming because everybody's on camera down there.
There's over a thousand cameras
in that area, just where the rides are.
That's why
no rides.
No, I worked in last year.
And last year, every day, there was nothing.
The last day, even though it rained out, the days that we were down there and it was closing at midnight, nothing happened.
Even if it was a planned event,
They were supposed to be grown, where are the grown people do?
You don't let no kids with the run nowhere man.
We don't allow that.
You know, that's just like you didn't do, you caught them kids doing that stuff on your property.
There's a whole bunch of things you could have did to them and their parents.
But you, but you, but you, but you paid it for.
They couldn't stand me when I was working here because I'm like, how's your boyfriend and girlfriend at work?
How's y'all smoking weed on the clock?
How's y'all smoking black and white, walking in the crowd with these people, man?
Y'all
being
looked at.
What it is, like I said, why don't some of us have rides no more?
Because they did the same thing.
Why is we stress that workshop?
Because they did the same thing.
Absolutely.
You keep on doing the same thing.
They're gonna move you around or they'll move around.
Yeah, and everybody keep talking about they we gotta get real dude.
They won't do no much that much of all here and shut it down
it became a
bigger issue if I'm not mistaken That's what it sound like he was saying like there's rules and ways you were supposed to handle these situations and people just weren't handling the situations right because they They work in there, but they just there they're not working there to actually make a difference and actually Do their job?
So it sounds like he's saying like it's plenty things that they were supposed to do that just weren't getting done and that's why so much ended up happening
Yeah, what we could do if we could redirect these kids' organizational skills, we could create generational wealth of problem-solving of so many issues.
what we could do.
We could redirect these.
Okay.
Yeah.
So basically he's saying organizational skills.
I saw, yeah, speaking of organizational skills, I saw the other day, it was going viral.
I don't know how true it is.
Somebody could have just did this and been being funny.
It was like a teenage girl.
She made a flyer using AI.
It was her and another girl.
And they said, fight tomorrow at school at 1130.
Custer feel the whole city.
The whole city was there.
I was there.
I was like, people ain't really showing up for this.
They was there.
Oh, my God.
The whole city was at Custer.
You couldn't park... Office of Violence Prevention was out there doing what they could do to try to minimize the... But I was like, black people know how to organize.
Look at this.
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Oh, hey, I'm doing good.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
And you know what?
Let's go to hell right now.
No, we're gonna go beneath hell.
We have these parents out here.
I think the parents of these kids are mentally retarded.
I think they're slow.
I think some of these parents are crack babies.
And I think some of them UCPS are not putting a foot clean up in a kid's ass.
Because when you raise your kids, when they leave that house,
They already know what's tolerating, what's not tolerating, because if they're getting them streaks and getting the situation, they're going to be calling their parents.
So I personally feel there's something lacking in the household.
Maybe they screwing too much, and they need to take the time to keep their foot in their kid's ass.
That's why they out there, that little girl, 12, 13 years old, ain't nothing but a little whore, and she don't got no walls by the time she's 17.
They out here fighting, acting like a bunch of monkeys that broke loose from the cage, and then when somebody put a bullet in their ass, they doing a go fund me.
This starts at home.
You can have as many resources out there, but if you don't stay on your kids back, and if you don't keep your foot in their ass, like you keep your face in that Bible, that...
is the outcome.
That is the mama and the daddy problem.
That is not the society problem.
That's not the community problem.
And that's why nobody wanna be around them crump snatching uncontrollable, disrespectful, no home training bastards.
That's a mama and daddy problem.
Maybe they should stop screwing the wrong DNA.
We gotta keep it 100.
We gotta hurt some feelings.
Cause mama gonna be hurt the next day.
Cause she went too long that night on her back.
So we gonna hurt some feelings immediately right now.
See, we don't never really want to talk about it.
We want to use poverty.
We want to say CPS.
Don't say use a CPS.
Just say, I'm a mother.
I'm a daddy.
I don't give a damn.
But I don't want to raise my goddamn kids.
So I'm going to put money on his books when he go to prison because I don't got what it takes to put books, money on his books when his little ignorant ass trying to go to college.
That's what I think we need to say or if we don't we're gonna be going down the same road and the north side Don't continue to look like below it and then they can tell you we don't have no resources And then we can get stung by a piece of rebutt that's coming out the goddamn concrete.
How about
Have a good day.
Bye.
Bye
They don't need a chaser.
They need to take it straight and I think the theme of this whole conversation today been people need to be more involved with their children's lives.
I think a big issue for me is like, I know some kids don't even have that.
Like they just bouncing around from group home to group
So what happens with those kids?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, and then those kids go to school with
Our kids and they they normally are good at being like you said they know organized chaos they know how to be the leader of a pack and they know how to.
Demand a room so to speak so who who kind of sways those kids who teaches those kids.
That's a good way to put it because granted some of them do have parents in a life that just don't care enough or.
that aren't too involved.
But we got a lot of these kids out here.
We'd be surprised to see the numbers of how many kids just don't have parents that are involved at all.
You know, that could care less what's happening, whether
is Wisconsin State Fair already uses community-based violence interrupters.
Volunteers, in bright orange shirts that I spoke of, drawn from Milwaukee County community groups who patrol the ground specifically to de-escalate conflicts before they become fights.
One volunteer, Black Shife, describes the approach directly.
If we're seeing them congregating that look like it could turn into something, we get in there.
We diffuse it immediately.
We're all we got.
I mean, we as a community are all we got.
If we don't do it, it's not going to get done.
Once again, I say these are volunteers.
I want I want us to hear this.
Is that West Dallas?
Where state fair is West Dallas?
We send volunteers not paid state fair staff.
Exactly, so meaning the program
So the program scale and consistency depends on community ground community groups showing up on their own, not a guaranteed funded state fair park hiring commitment.
Which is why I say the bigger conversation privatization of violence prevention These folks already volunteering to turn confiscated guns in off the street and catching second felonies We can't offer them a real contract to do this work then
Like you said, they use them as consultants.
They expect them to put their lives and their, what is it, lives and their record on the line, but you don't want to pay these people.
Absolutely.
And then they wonder why it's so hard to find these type of volunteers.
You see what they dealing with.
The police gonna come after the problem.
So if you don't have somebody to intervene as the problem looks like it's brewing like Black Shives said, when we see them congregate and what's going on, let's find out before it get too, you know what I'm saying too far, but you're not even people that are literally putting themselves in harm's way nine times out of 10.
And that's just unfortunate.
We look at people that do violence prevention work, violence interruption work, they put their lives on the line and they don't have the proper tools and resources when they are putting their lives on the line to even protect themselves.
They got no shields, they got no firearms, they don't even got flashlights.
Bulletproof vests, they have nothing.
Bright orange shirts that says, hey, I'm the target.
Here's this gun lock and here's this book.
Please stop the violence.
Oh yeah, I'm just volunteering as well.
Invest in violence prevention.
I'm talking about all these companies downtown.
You want downtown to be better?
Invest in violence prevention.
Don't wait for the city to do it.
You invest in it That's that's that's what I that's just my thoughts Shannon.
I'm gonna let you
Stirred a pot tonight, today, before we close out.
That sounded crazy.
One of them said, sometimes people say what others think but are too polite to say.
And then we have the village has to continue to put when it can.
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It is hour two.
We got some things on the menu.
We're going to get two in a little bit.
But if you just joined in us, man, yes, we had an amazing hour one.
We were talking about a few things, predominantly reading and so forth as we transition our segment into some other news surrounding us.
Um, we want to talk about the Chicago volunteer who got sentenced for turning in a confiscated gun.
So this was confirmed via ABC seven Chicago and the Chicago Sun Times, both reportedly direct, both reporting directly from the sentence and hearing just so you know, we sit in our sources here on the lunch break.
Nikia Smith, 51, a convicted felon.
There it is.
There it is.
I'm sure that's what it had to do with.
Convicted felon who spent 13 years volunteering with Chicago CRED, an anti-violence group run by former U.S.
Education Secretary Arnie Duncan, walked into a Chicago police station in March 2023.
to surrender a gun he says he'd taken off the streets.
Ding, ding, ding.
Because he's a felon, he's legally barred from possessing a firearm.
Police arrested him on the spot.
He faced charges, including being an armed habitual criminal.
That could have carried six to 30 years in prison.
Smith spent seven months in Cook County jail before posting 10 percent.
of a $150,000 bond and being placed on electronic monitoring.
Man, all while continuing his anti-violence volunteer work.
Man, this month Smith pled guilty to a reduced charge aggravated on lawful possession of a weapon and was sentenced, okay, that's what's up, was sentenced to time served.
meaning the time he'd already spent in custody satisfied the sentence.
At Sentison Smith urged the Chicago Police Department to create an actual pathway for felons to surrender guns without facing prosecution.
Duncan has publicly warned the case sends exactly the wrong message.
I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and said, we're never turning in a gun.
Yeah.
outcome was time served, right?
So I guess he
I'm feeling because of
Oh It's messed up because they know he's doing so like we've talked about before a lot of times these kids feel more comfortable right dealing with people that They know understand their lifestyle or what they've gone through and sometimes we do have to look
to felons or people that have been in the system, you know, at one point or the other.
Absolutely, because you have these violence interrupters that, you know, a lot of times put their lives on the lines to be that person in between so many potential crimes, so many potential violence that could have happened and they put their lives on the line.
And like you said, people trust them.
So it's no telling
man, they definitely need some type of law that protects the violence interrupters because that's super unfortunate.
And like, like I said, we need those people.
To intervene we need those people on the streets.
We need those people to talk to our youth that can understand where they're coming from and to not be Crucified when they step in and try to do the right thing, you know,
to take it back from him because the department went through some changes in my mistake, if I'm not mistaken, and due to those changes and it now being its own department,
If I'm not mistaken, I think one of the rules was like department heads can't be felons or something like that.
I think that's what it was.
It was something like that.
But we got a mirror on the line.
Let's all go talk to brother and mirror on the line and mirror.
How you doing, brother?
Peace and blessings Ray.
Hey, what's happening, Shannon?
Good afternoon.
talking here with on the subject with
with the violence interrupter.
Chicago Cread is one of the organizations in Chicago that we kind of partner with in different modes.
And a lot of people, I don't know if a lot of people understand what CVI is.
The people that's used, the people that's used during CVI work is actual felons.
For the most part, people that has a criminal past and probably they're still on parole or probation.
And you might work with a young person that
got a might have a weapon on them.
You don't know, but you get caught with the young person.
Now you subjected to different rules and regulations.
Then, you know, just regular people that's not on probation or parole.
So with the brother turning in that firearm, it is discouraging in some aspects because it's like, damn, you try to do the right thing, but it's nothing in place for the people that's actually got the credibility to do the right thing.
You know, there's no, no legislation there.
There's no laws.
There's no nothing.
So if we get caught in them situations right there, the law says this has to happen.
And he got a felony on his record because he played guilty to something that was crazy.
Well, I would have to see the case, but in most, in a lot of cases, if you get caught a felon in possession of a firearm, that's a felony.
Yeah.
If they played him down to something else, I'm not sure.
But most cases is if you get caught with a firearm or the felon, you get another felony.
But it might not be that for his case.
I'm not sure.
threat.
But that still makes it a little bit more difficult to do what we should be doing anyway.
Yeah, absolutely.
And make it a whole lot more harder.
People don't see that.
struggle that some of us, some of us has when we have to constantly be aware of like hyper aware of everything, you know, not just, you know, working with working with the people that we deem at risk, but at the same time, working in the community, somebody might have a weapon.
And if you get caught with it, I'm buying my subject to be charged the same type of way.
You know what I mean?
Being a felon or own parole or probation.
and doing the work out here doing good in the community.
So it's disheartening.
It's really disheartening, but I'm even charging with it, to be honest.
You know how I feel about the work that y'all do.
I commend y'all work.
I think y'all should be paid way more for the work that you all are doing.
Y'all put your lives on the line and folks sending y'all out there with orange shirts and gun locks and asking y'all to keep the peace and almost as sometimes demanding even more success rates than folks who got mm-hmm
hundreds of millions of dollars to do this work.
So ironically enough, when we get into the meat and potatoes, when we return from this break, we're going to be talking about Wisconsin, Stay Fair, the fights, the fallouts, why this is happening, and why I do think folks need to privatize that type of work.
Violence intervention work needs to be privatized.
And maybe State Fair should have hired some folks like some CVI interrupters.
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That was good.
That was good.
That you didn't get.
I
My.
It was exciting.
on.
I was working on it kind of all types of different other things.
But what happened?
What happened Sunday night, man?
It was the final night.
This is confirmed by CBS 58, WISN, TMJ four and Fox six.
All right.
This is still a developer story at this time.
Siting our sources.
Multiple fights broke out late Sunday, August 16th.
The final night of the Wisconsin State Fair.
Hundred and seventy-fifth year.
That was a hundred and seventy-five.
It was cutting up inside the fairgrounds near the spin city carnival in right spin city.
It's always at the rides.
That's why Afrofest ain't here no
more.
If you following us on YouTube, we showing a clip of the melee that was going to, I couldn't even, I was like, is this look AI?
But they was going crazy.
It was going crazy.
Multiple videos, multiple fights.
At least one officer was punched in the face.
Damn.
West Dallas police assisted State Fair Park police.
responded to the incident.
Large police presence was visible on video shot by Fair Ghost.
Yeah.
separately the same night in West Dallas, one person was taken into custody following an assault and shots fired incident.
Officials have not yet confirmed publicly whether it was directly connected to the fair ground fights or a separate nearby incident as of this recording.
Stay fair officials and West Dallas police have not released official arrest totals, full injury counts,
or a detailed account of what triggered the fights.
This remains actively developing.
So, yeah, you know, we got this little inside source where we be hearing some things, right?
So this is not confirmed.
This is not confirmed.
This is this is unconfirmed.
But it's something I think.
Worth sharing.
So what was said is, or allegedly, what's allegedly happening was there was this guy who was shooting at people coming out of the fairgrounds.
I don't know how true that is.
We gotta do some more research into that.
So to hear that there.
That's something completely different.
incident that wasn't, cause there was reports of, you saw things like reports of shot fire by the USFIR.
You know how they, that website, not website, but that Facebook account that basically shares everything on the scanner.
So they shared that as well.
And people were saying it was some guy that was, they say it was a white guy that was shooting, unconfirmed.
Let me lead with that.
Unconfirmed.
But what we do know is there was a confirmed arrest for assault and shots fired near West Dallas.
They didn't give out no reports on that yet.
But just something to monitor.
What you think, Shannon?
We've been down this road
I'm
I'm tired boss.
I just feel like it's just a shame because if what you're saying is sure we got our kids fighting each other and then you got to walk out of the fairgrounds and fight the, you know, the mass shooters.
You know, I'm saying like it's just like where do we find peace, right?
And it's just unfortunate that kids somehow find that fun to just terrorize each other or terrorize people that are just there jamily to
enjoy their
That's what's going on like
I feel like it's it's been a thing, right?
Like when we were younger, like you see stuff like that.
But to this degree, maybe maybe I'm just forgetting how bad it was when we were younger.
But it's just like it don't even sound fun to go to the fair at night.
Don't even go near Spence City after 1 p.m.
I got a ride
Oh,
Hey, you start feeling like Will Smith and that I am legend with my old shoes.
The undesirables are coming.
You got to scurry up out of there.
The lumping proletarians.
They're taking back you, ain't it?
Oh, my God.
Let it go, see some cows.
Once that sun goes down, get up out of that spin city.
night
It was a missing kid You see somebody there with a missing kid and then I Guess the lady was I guess the lady was coming up to get her kid and I guess they said I Got you gotta listen to it, but it's a profanity in that video So I don't think we could actually play the audio, but I guess when she came up to get her kid like
the police did like a sweet move on her and you hear somebody like, this our kid.
What you sweep her down for?
I'm like, same.
Like just like
a
So what I will say, Shannon is fighting at the fair.
It's not just exclusive to this generation, for sure.
I will say that is not exclusive to them.
because my generation, we had, you know, Afrofest.
And back then at Afrofest, they had, they had the pit, remember the volleyball pit?
I don't know if you was the, the volleyball pit, but 860 and Homer Blow.
Used to actually DJ the,
And that's where you would get black music from, because it would be home or blow.
DJ.
And we have fights there, too.
We have fights there, too.
And I even remember in our days at traffic, when we were having traffic, there was a group of individual called the Knockout Boys.
And you didn't want to get caught by KOB.
They was taking you out your car and knocking you out.
So I think the difference I see is a lot of these like fights and thank God nothing happened at this one.
But a lot of these fights nowadays lead to gun violence.
And I think that is part of the issue.
But in our days, we had them for sure.
Probably just didn't necessarily lead to as much violence after violence as it was with them.
Somebody says I was with them.
Jasmine Jazz West said they're gonna move the events outside of the city and um Trey 5437 they're gonna start proposing age restrictions at the fair if they keep it up what I thought what I thought was funny is somebody told me they thought they already were proposing those age restrictions but we can talk about this more after the break you are listening to the award 1-1-0-1-7 the truth don't go anywhere we'll be right back
What up, y'all?
Welcome back.
Welcome back.
This is Ray Nitty, maybe Shannon DJ, Brother Z holding us down on the production and sound on the award, winning 1-0-1-7, the truth.
This is the Lunge Break Crew, your favorite two hours of the day, man.
If you just joining us, we talking about, yes, our little cousins down in State Fair, man.
We talking about them.
We talking about, Babar, was he just saying you was with K.O.B.?
but No, um They can't be was on dirt fuck.
So I ain't gonna lie.
They was really they was on that.
Um Jasmine said they're gonna move you said this already, right?
They're gonna move the events out the city They already started Greek fest like in Walkishaw now
Greek fashion Walker Shaw You're
I think Bobar say he was with KOB.
Yeah, I need to change the way I read those comments You use the cousin on the good side but bar just just remember it was always love with me Never was disagreed
I'm not at the age to be defending myself.
Order physique.
My back hurt right now just sitting in this chair for two hours.
Oh, Bobar
said I
was getting knocked out.
in.
That's crazy.
It happens most yet.
That's crazy.
Most years, 2022, state fair officials confirmed 10 separate disturbances in a single Saturday night alone with park police using tactics necessary to mitigate the situation.
Four citations were issued, though nobody was referred for criminal charges that year.
The previous more severe incidents saw hundreds
of young people leave the fairgrounds and rampage through surrounding West Dallas neighborhoods, smashing car windows, attacking pedestrians, injuring two women badly enough to need hospital treatment.
One needed stitches, another needed surgery.
With State Fair Park's own CEO confirming 24 arrests inside the fairgrounds and seven park police officers injured, two hospitalized.
The pattern across these incidents is consistently large teenage slash young adult crowds consistently concentrated in the amusement slash ride area and consistently draws the same public response cycle outrage a promise of more signage or security and then it reoccurs the following year they got rid of the
What's the name for a second?
Say, what does KOB mean?
Knockout boys.
That's what it meant.
That's what the hell it meant.
Damn.
I'm all right, man.
Last year when I worked.
I did every day last year and none of that happened last year.
I did emergency response and I tried to order from their vehicles to the states.
I worked from like four o'clock to midnight every day and it was nothing like that last year.
This whole year being crazy with these kids, being asinine.
Like we got procedures.
Something like that happened in Lincoln Circle.
We shut it down.
They ain't want any one of them kids, man.
it was people on on staff that should be suspended and wrote up for this procedure that happens when it's a breakout of mayhem and chaos.
We ain't supposed to throw our hands on nobody, we just surround them till the police come, then all the million-dollar horses they got, they didn't have the horses around, they had them on the outside to kick one of the keys in the head and that's a lawsuit.
They didn't have Downsending Keys getting ran over yesterday.
There's gonna be some lawsuits coming because everybody's on camera down there, there's over a thousand cameras
in that area, just where the rides are.
That's why some of
had no rides.
No, I worked in last year.
Oh,
And last year, every day, there was nothing.
The last day, even though it rained out, the days that we were down there and it was closing at midnight, nothing happened.
Even if it was a planned event,
They were supposed to be grown.
Where are the grown people do?
You still let no kids with the run nowhere, man.
We don't allow that.
You know, that's just like you didn't do.
You talking to kids doing that stuff for your property.
There's a whole bunch of things you could have did to them and their parents.
But you, but you, but you paid it forward.
They couldn't stand me when I was working here because I'm like, how's your boyfriend and girlfriend at work?
How's y'all smoking weed on the clock?
How's your smoking black amount walking in the crowd?
These people man y'all being looked at what it is.
Like I said, why don't some of us have rides no more because they did the same thing.
Yeah.
Why is we stress that workshop because they did the same thing.
Absolutely.
You keep on doing the same thing.
They're gonna move you around or they'll move around.
Yeah.
And everybody keep talking about they we got to get rid of.
Dude, they won't do nothing but that monster right here and shut it down.
became a
bigger issue if I'm not mistaken That's what it sound like he was saying like there's rules and ways you were supposed to handle these situations and people just weren't handling the situations right because they They work in there, but they just they're they're not working there to actually make a difference and actually Do their job?
So it sounds like he's saying like it's plenty things that they were supposed to do that just weren't getting done and that's why so much ended up happening
could we do?
Yeah, what we could do if we could redirect these kids' organizational skills, we could create generational wealth of problem-solving of so many issues.
What we could do if we could redirect these.
Okay.
Yeah.
So basically he's saying organizational skills.
I saw.
Yeah.
Speaking of organizational skills, I saw the other day it was going viral.
I don't know how true it is.
Somebody could have just did this and been being funny.
Um, it was like a teenage girl.
She made a flyer using AI.
It was her and another girl and they said fight tomorrow at school at 1130.
Custer feel the whole city.
The whole city was there.
I was there.
I was like, people ain't really showing up for this.
They was there.
Oh, my God.
The whole city was at Custer.
You couldn't park... Office of Violence Prevention was out there doing what they could do to try to minimize the... But I was like, black people know how to organize.
Look at this.
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Al?
Oh, hey, I'm doing good.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
And you know what?
Let's go to hell right now.
No, we're gonna go beneath hell.
We have these parents out here.
I think the parents of these kids are mentally retarded.
I think they're slow.
I think some of these parents are crack babies.
And I think some of them use CPS for not putting their foot clean up in a kid's ass.
Because when you raise your kids, when they leave that house, they already know what's tolerating, what's not tolerating, because if they're getting them streaks and getting the situation, they're going to be calling their parents.
So I personally feel there's something lacking in the household.
Maybe they screwing too much and they need to take the time to keep their foot.
in a kid's ass.
That's why they outfired that little girl 12, 13 years old.
Ain't nothing but a little whore and she don't got no walls by the time she's 17.
They out here fighting, acting like a bunch of monkeys that broke loose from the cage.
And then when somebody put a bullet in their ass, they doing a go fund me.
This starts.
at home you can have as many resources out there but if you don't stay on your kids back and if you don't keep your foot in their ass like you keep your face in that bible that
is the outcome.
That is the mama and the daddy problem.
That is not the society problem.
That's not the community problem.
And that's why nobody wanna be around them crump snatching uncontrollable, disrespectful, no home training bastards.
That's a mama and daddy problem.
Maybe they should stop screwing the wrong DNA.
We gotta keep it 100.
We gotta hurt some feelings.
Cuz mama gonna be hurt the next day.
Cuz she went too long that night on her back.
So we gonna hurt some feelings immediately right now.
See, we don't never really want to talk about it.
We want to use poverty.
We want to say CPS.
Don't say use a CPS.
Just say, I'm a mother.
I'm a daddy.
I don't give a damn, but I don't want to raise my goddamn kids.
So I'm going to put money on his books when he go to prison, because I don't got what it takes to put books, money on his books, when his little ignorant ass trying to go to college.
That's what I think we need to say.
Or if we don't, we're going to be going down the same road and the north side don't continue to look like Baloy.
And then they can tell you we don't have no resources.
And then we can get stung by a piece of rebutt that's coming out the goddamn concrete.
How about
Have a good day.
I'm
You know, you don't hold back.
And sometimes.
Exactly.
And sometimes people do need to hear you just straight.
They don't need a chaser.
They need to take it straight.
And I think the theme of this whole conversation today been people need to be more involved with their children's lives.
I think a big issue for me is like, I know some kids don't even have that.
Like they just bouncing around from group home to group
So what happens with those kids?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, and then those kids go to school with
Our kids and they they normally are good at being like you said they know organized chaos they know how to be the leader of a pack and they know how to.
Demand a room also to speak so who who kind of sways those kids who teaches those kids.
a good way to put it because granted some of them do have parents in a life that just don't care enough or.
that aren't too involved.
But we got a lot of these kids out here.
We'd be surprised to see the numbers of how many kids just don't have parents that are involved at all.
You know, that could care less what's happening, whether
is Wisconsin State Fair already uses community-based violence interrupters.
Volunteers, in bright orange shirts that I spoke of, drawn from Milwaukee County community groups who patrol the ground specifically to de-escalate conflicts before they become fights.
One volunteer, Black Shife, describes the approach directly.
If we're seeing them congregating that look like it could turn into something, we get in there.
We diffuse it immediately.
We're all we got.
I mean, we as a community are all we got.
If we don't do it, it's not going to get done.
Once again, I say these are volunteers.
I want I want us to hear this.
It's at West Dallas.
Where State Fair is West Dallas.
We send volunteers
depends on community ground community groups showing up on their own not a guaranteed funded state fair park hiring commitment.
Which is why I say the bigger conversation privatization of violence prevention These folks already volunteering to turn confiscated guns in off the street and catching second felonies We can't offer them a real contract to do this work then
And like I said volunteering is not just like show up and stand around they they like you said they use them as consultants They expect them to put their lives in there.
They're there.
What is it like lives and their record on the line like?
But you don't want to pay these people Absolutely, and then they wonder why it's so hard to find these type of volunteers.
You they you see what they dealing with
The police gon' come after the problem, so if you don't have somebody to intervene as the problem looks like it's brewing like Black Shive said, when we see them congregate, and what's going on?
Let's find out before we get to, you know what I'm saying, too far, but you're not even people that are literally putting themselves in harm's way nine times out of 10, and that's just unfortunate.
I think it's something to consider.
We look at people that do violence prevention work, violence interruption work.
They put their lives on the line and they don't have the proper tools and resources when they are putting their lives on the line to even protect themselves.
They got no shields.
They got no firearms.
They don't even got flashlights.
They don't got bulletproof vests.
They have nothing.
Bright orange shirts that says, hey, I'm rapist.
Come on now.
I'm the target.
Here's this gun lock.
And here's this book.
Please stop the violence.
Oh, yeah, I'm just volunteering as well.
Invest in violence prevention.
I'm talking about all these companies downtown.
You want downtown to be better?
Invest in violence prevention.
Don't wait for the city to do it.
You invest in it.
That's that's that's what I that's just my thought, Shannon.
I'm going to let you.
Stirred a pot tonight today before we close out.
One of them said, sometimes people say what others think but are too polite to say.
And then we have the village has to continue to put when it can.
Some kids have unimpaired parents and others have parents who still need parenting.
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