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I ain't even seen you look at the menu.
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table around.
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It is hour two.
We got some things on the menu.
We gonna get to in a little bit, but if you just joined in us, man, yes, we had an amazing hour one.
We were talking about a few things, predominantly reading and so forth as we transition our segment into some other news surrounding us.
We wanna talk about the Chicago Volunteer.
Who got sentenced?
for turning in a confiscated gun.
So this was confirmed via ABC 7 Chicago and the Chicago Sun Times, both reportedly direct, both reporting directly from the sentencing hearing.
Just so, you know, we sitin' our sources here on the lunch break.
Nikia Smith, 51, a convicted felon.
There it is.
There it is.
I'm sure that's what it had to do with convicted felon who spent 13 years volunteering with Chicago C. R. E. D. and anti violence group run by former U. S. Education Secretary Arnie Duncan walked into a Chicago police station in March 2023 to surrender a gun he says he'd taken off the streets.
Ding, ding, ding.
Because he's a felon, he's legally barred from possessing a firearm.
Police arrested him on the spot.
He faced charges, including being an armed habitual criminal.
That could have carried six to 30 years in prison.
Smith spent seven months in Cook County jail before posting 10 percent of a hundred and fifty thousand dollar bond and being placed on electronic monitoring.
Man, all while continuing his anti-violence volunteer work.
Man,
this month Smith pled guilty to a reduced charge aggravated on lawful possession of a weapon and was sentenced.
Okay, that's what's up.
Was sentenced to time served, meaning the time he'd already spent in custody satisfied the sentence.
At sentencing Smith urged the Chicago Police Department to create an actual pathway for felons to surrender guns without facing prosecution.
Duncan has publicly warned the case sends exactly the wrong message.
I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and said, we're never turning in a gun.
Yeah.
So outcome was time served, right?
So I guess he avoided the worst case scenario.
But this case still took over three years.
and a felony plea to resolve.
So is that really a system working?
That's a
It's messed up because they know he's doing it.
So like we've talked about before, a lot of times these kids feel more comfortable
Right dealing with people that They know understand their lifestyle or what they've gone through and sometimes we do have to look to fill in felons or people that have been in the system You know at one point or the other and I don't know what the situation was or how he came
upon this gun, but it could have just been a kid that trusted him and was
you'll do the right thing with this.
I don't want to go to the police and get in trouble.
And then to watch him go through this, it's definitely discouraging.
And I can see how it sends the wrong message.
Absolutely.
Because you have these violence interrupters that, you know, a lot of times put their lives on the lines to be that person in between.
So many potential crimes so many potential Violence that could have happened and they put their lives on the line and like you said people trust them So it's no telling how it came into his possession Yeah, but I guess I I guess the best outcome for him would have been his time served, but he still had to spend that money
He still had to spend that money
and time
money the time the headache Mm-hmm like that's frustrating
it sounds like Yeah, it sounds like he also has a new felony charge.
if I'm not mistaken, right?
guilty your time
man, they definitely need some type of law that protects the violence interrupters because that's super unfortunate and like like I said, we need those people To intervene we need those people on the streets.
We need those people to talk to our youth that can understand where they're coming from and to not be Crucified when they step in and try to do the right thing, you know,
and things that we have in place, right, to just minimize people with felonies or keep them from really achieving new heights.
It makes me think of what Adam Procell went through, who was... He actually had... They gave him the job, actually.
They gave him the job
and had to
if I'm not mistaken, and due to those changes and it now being its own department, if I'm not mistaken, I think one of the rules was like department heads can't be felons or something like that.
I think that's what it was.
It was something like that.
But we got Amir on the line.
Let's all go talk to brother Amir on the line.
Amir, how you doing, brother?
Wait, peace and blessings, Ray.
Hey, what's happening, Shannon?
Good afternoon.
talking in on the subject with the violence interrupter.
Chicago Cread is one of the organizations in Chicago that we kind of partner with in different modes.
And a lot of people, I don't know if a lot of people understand what CVI is, the people that's used, the people that's used during CVI work is actual felons.
For the most part, people that has a criminal past and probably they're still on parole or probation.
And you might work with a young person that might have a weapon on them.
You don't know.
But you get caught with this young person.
Now, you're subjected to different rules and regulations than just regular people that's not on probation or parole.
So with the Bubba Turner and that firearm, it is discouraging in some aspects because it's like, damn, you try to do the right thing, but it's nothing in place for the people that's actually got the credibility to do the right thing.
There's no legislation there, there's no laws, there's no nothing.
So if we get caught in them situations right there, the law says this has to happen.
And he got a felony on his record because he played guilty to something that was crazy.
Well, I would have to see the case, but in most, in a lot of cases, if you get caught a feather in the possession of a firearm, that's a felony.
If they played him down to something else, I'm not sure.
But most cases is if you get caught with a firearm or the felon, you get another felony.
But it might not be that for his case, I'm not sure.
feeling.
It
But that still makes it a little bit more difficult to do what we should be doing anyway.
Yeah, absolutely.
It makes it a whole lot more harder.
People don't see that.
struggle that some of us, some of us has when we have to constantly be aware of like hyper aware of everything, you know, not just, you know, working with working with the people as we deem at risk, but at the same time, working in the community or somebody might have a weapon.
And if you get caught with it, I'm buying my subject to be charged the same type of way.
You know what I mean?
Being a felon or own parole or probation.
And doing the work out here doing good in the community.
So it's disheartening.
It's really disheartening, but I'm even charging with it, to be honest.
You know how I feel about the work that y'all do.
I commend y'all work.
I think y'all should be paid way more for the work that you all are doing.
Y'all put your lives on the line and folks sending y'all out there with orange shirts and gun locks and asking y'all to keep the peace and almost as sometimes demanding even more success rates than folks who got mm-hmm.
hundreds of millions of dollars to do this work.
So ironically enough, when we get into the meat and potatoes, when we return from this break, we're gonna be talking about Wisconsin, stay fair to fights, the fallouts, why this is happening, and why I do think folks need to privatize that type of work.
Violence intervention work needs to be privatized.
And maybe State Fair should have hired some folks like some CVI interrupters.
Great.
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That's what it was.
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That was good.
That was good.
Scrumptious, if you will.
Fair.
That you didn't get.
go?
It was exciting.
on.
I was working on a condo, all types of different other things.
But what happened?
What happened Sunday night, man?
It was the final night.
This is confirmed by CBS 58, WISN, TMJ four and Fox six.
All right.
This is still a developer story at this time.
Siting our sources.
Multiple fights broke out late Sunday, August 16th.
The final night of the Wisconsin State Fair.
175th year.
That was 175 days cutting up.
Inside the fairgrounds near the Spin City Carnival in Spin City.
It's always at the rides.
That's why AfroFest ain't here no
more.
If you're following us on YouTube, we're showing a clip of the melee.
That was going to, I couldn't even, I was like, is this look AI?
But they was going crazy.
It was going crazy.
Multiple videos, multiple fights.
At least one officer was punched in the face.
Damn.
West Dallas police assisted State Fair Park police, responded to the incident.
Large police presence was visible on video shot by Fair Ghost.
Yeah.
Literally, like, what is going on?
It was going for a while.
Separately, the same night in West Dallas, one person was taken into custody following an assault and shots fired incident.
Officials have not yet confirmed publicly whether it was directly connected to the fairground fights or a separate nearby incident as of this recording.
Stay fair officials and West Dallas police have not released official arrest totals, full injury counts or a detailed account of what triggered the fights.
This remains actively developing.
So yeah, you know.
We got this little inside source where we be hearing some things, right?
So this is not confirmed This is not confirmed.
This is this is unconfirmed But it's something I think worth sharing So what was said is or alleged
Lee, what's allegedly happening was there was this guy who was shooting at people coming out of the fairgrounds.
I don't know how true that is.
We got to do some more research into that.
So to hear that they're
completely different.
So to hear that this was, um, you know, a separate incident that wasn't because there was reports of you saw things like reports of shot fired by the USF IR.
You know how they, that website, not website, but that Facebook account that basically shares everything on the scanner.
So they shared that as well.
And people were saying it was some guy that was, they say it was a white guy that was shooting, unconfirmed.
Let me lead with that.
Unconfirmed.
But what we do know is there was a confirmed arrest.
for assault and shots fired near West Dallas.
They didn't give out no reports on that yet.
But just something to monitor.
What you think, Shannon?
We've been down this road before.
Man.
I'm tired, boss.
I'm tired, boss.
I just feel like it's just a shame because if what you're saying is true, we got our kids fighting each other and then you got to walk out of the fairgrounds
in fight the, you know, the mass shooters.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's just like, where do we find peace, right?
And it's just unfortunate that kids somehow find that fun to just terrorize each other or terrorize people that are just there jamily to
enjoy their
selves.
Like that's their version of right now.
It's super unfortunate.
That's what's going on.
Like.
I feel like it's it's been a thing, right?
Like when we were younger, like you'd see stuff like that.
But to this degree, maybe maybe I'm just forgetting how bad it was when we were younger.
But it's just like it don't even sound fun to go to the fair at night.
go near Spence City after 1 p.m.
I
What time was it?
You were straight
you got off and that some was down you might have walked in to be in a Rockham soccer
Yeah, you gotta take it and go.
Well, that's the sundown town
Oh, spin
cities.
Hey, you start feeling like Will Smith and that I am legendary.
Oh, shoot, the undesirables are coming.
You got a scurry up out of there.
The
lumping proletarians.
They're taking it back away.
some cows.
I'm going to let that song go down.
Get up out of that spin city.
I
out.
But yeah, man,
night
man, they streaming it.
Tick tock in it.
like,
Well, she ain't even wait.
care about that.
It was a missing kid You see somebody there with a missing kid and then I Guess the lady was I guess the lady was coming up to get her kid and I guess the they said I Got you gotta listen to it, but it's a profanity in that video So I don't think we could actually play the audio, but I guess when she came up to get her kid like
The police did like a sweet move on her and you hear somebody like, this our kid.
What you sweep her down for?
Like
a
that's hilarious.
But so.
It's so much going on at that fair.
I really just wish... I wish one year we could act like we got some sense at the fair, y'all.
The young people gotta get it right.
Yeah, so what I will say, Shannon, is fighting at the fair, it's not just exclusive to this generation, for sure.
I will say that is not exclusive to them.
because my generation, we had, you know, Afrofest.
And back then at Afrofest, they had, they had the pit, remember the volleyball pit?
I don't know if you was the, the volleyball pit, but 860 and Homer Blow.
Used to actually DJ the,
And that's where you would get black music from, because it would be home or blow.
DJ.
And we have fights there, too.
We have fights there, too.
And I even remember in our days at traffic, when we were having traffic, there was a group of individual called the Knockout Boys.
And you didn't want to get caught by KOB.
They was taking you out your car and knocking you out.
OK, so where they at now?
Do we know where they we need to?
Where
need to talk to them.
We need to bring them on here because we need to look what would have made y'all do better back then.
So I think the difference I see is a lot of these like fights and thank God nothing happened at this one.
But a lot of these fights nowadays lead to gun violence.
And I think that is part of the issue.
But in our days, we had them for sure.
Probably just didn't necessarily lead to as much violence after violence as it was with them.
Somebody says I was with them.
Jasmine Jazz West said they're gonna move the events outside of the city and Tray 54 37 they're gonna start proposing age restrictions at the fair if they keep it up What I thought what I thought was funny is somebody told me they thought they already were proposing those age restrictions But we can talk about this more after the break you are listening to the award winning one oh one seven the truth.
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This is the Lunge Break Crew, your favorite two hours of the day, man.
If you just joining us, we talking about, yes, our little cousins down to stay fear, man.
We talking about them we talking about but barb was you just saying you was um you was with K.O.B.
Accusations That's what
What do you mean by that?
Change
But, nah, they, K.O.B.
was on dirt, fuck, so I ain't gonna lie.
They was really, they was on that.
Jasmine said they gonna move, you said this already, right?
They gonna move the events out the city.
They already started.
Greek Fest like in Walkinshaw now.
Greek Fest in Walkinshaw.
They're gonna be in McGwanagall.
Y'all ready to keep, quit playing.
I think Bobar said he was with K.O.B.
Yeah, I need to change the way I read those comments.
You the cousin on the good side, Bobar, just remember it was always love with me.
Never was disagreed.
Always kept it respectful.
I'm not at the age to be defending myself.
Or the physique.
My back hurt right now, just sitting in this chair for two hours.
Oh, Bobar said I was getting knocked out by them.
All right, that might be a setup.
I'm still going to watch what I say.
That's how I can't be get you.
They learn you in thinking they were friends.
He was
getting knocked out.
crazy.
is wild.
Yeah, y'all, this is not new, man.
It happens most yet.
That's crazy.
Most years, 2022, state fair officials confirmed 10 separate disturbances in a single Saturday night alone with park police using tactics necessary to mitigate the situation.
Four citations were issued, though nobody was referred.
for criminal charges that year.
The previous more severe incidents saw hundreds of young people leave the fairgrounds and rampage through surrounding West Dallas neighborhoods, smashing car windows, attacking pedestrians, injuring two women badly enough to need hospital treatment.
One needed stitches, another needed surgery.
with State Fair Park's own CEO confirming 24 arrests inside the fairgrounds and seven park police officers injured to hospitalized.
The pattern across these incidents is consistently large teenage slash young adult crowds consistently concentrated in the amusement slash ride area and consistently draws the same public response cycle.
Outrage.
a promise of more signage or security, and then it reoccurs the following year.
They got rid of the, what's the name for a second?
They said, what does K.O.B.
mean?
Knockout boys.
That's what it meant.
That's what the hell it meant.
Damn.
I'm all right, man.
Last year when I worked, I did every day last year and none of that happened last year.
I did emergency response and I tried to order some of their vehicles to the states.
I worked from like four o'clock to midnight every day and it was nothing like that last year.
This whole year being crazy with these kids, being asinine, like we got procedures.
Something like that happened in Lincoln Circle, we shut it down.
They ain't one of them kids, man.
it was people on on staff that should be suspended and wrote up for this procedure that happens when it's a breakout of mayhem and chaos.
ain't supposed to put our hands on nobody.
We just surround them till the police come, then all the million-dollar horses they got,
horses around.
They had them on the outside to kick one of the keys in the head, and that's a lawsuit.
We even had Downsending Keys getting ran over yesterday.
There's gonna be some lawsuits coming because everybody's on camera down there.
There's over a thousand cameras
in that area, just where the rides are.
That's why
no rides.
No, I worked in last year.
And last year, every day, there was nothing.
The last day, even though it rained out, the days that we were down there and it was closing at midnight, nothing happened.
Even if it was a planned event,
They were supposed to be grown, where are the grown people do?
You don't let no kids with the run nowhere man.
We don't allow that.
You know, that's just like you didn't do, you caught them kids doing that stuff on your property.
There's a whole bunch of things you could have did to them and their parents.
But you, but you, but you, but you paid it for.
They couldn't stand me when I was working here because I'm like, how's your boyfriend and girlfriend at work?
How's y'all smoking weed on the clock?
How's y'all smoking black and white, walking in the crowd with these people, man?
Y'all
being
looked at.
What it is, like I said, why don't some of us have rides no more?
Because they did the same thing.
Why is we stress that workshop?
Because they did the same thing.
Absolutely.
You keep on doing the same thing.
They're gonna move you around or they'll move around.
Yeah, and everybody keep talking about they we gotta get real dude.
They won't do no much that much of all here and shut it down
also did mention no, I was just saying I feel like he also mentioned which I wanted to highlight that a lot of people that are working there There are other things that they could have done to kind of like, you know
Settle things down that just wasn't being done.
So
it became a
bigger issue if I'm not mistaken That's what it sound like he was saying like there's rules and ways you were supposed to handle these situations and people just weren't handling the situations right because they They work in there, but they just there they're not working there to actually make a difference and actually Do their job?
So it sounds like he's saying like it's plenty things that they were supposed to do that just weren't getting done and that's why so much ended up happening
Yeah, what we could do if we could redirect these kids' organizational skills, we could create generational wealth of problem-solving of so many issues.
what we could do.
We could redirect these.
Okay.
Yeah.
So basically he's saying organizational skills.
I saw, yeah, speaking of organizational skills, I saw the other day, it was going viral.
I don't know how true it is.
Somebody could have just did this and been being funny.
It was like a teenage girl.
She made a flyer using AI.
It was her and another girl.
And they said, fight tomorrow at school at 1130.
backing down.
Like,
would have been nice to know.
Yeah.
back in the day, you just have to go to school and catch a fade.
You ain't even know what's coming.
organizational skills have put to work the correct way.
They have so many good ideas.
If listened to and if directed where we need it, man.
Like he said, we could we could be solving a whole lot of issues.
We could be doing a whole lot.
Custer feel the whole city.
The whole city was there.
I was there.
I was like, people ain't really showing up for this.
They was there.
Oh, my God.
The whole city was at Custer.
You couldn't park... Office of Violence Prevention was out there doing what they could do to try to minimize the... But I was like, black people know how to organize.
Look at this.
They do.
Somebody said, these kids brought the organized chaos.
Organized chaos.
That's exactly what it is.
do remember, well, before we...
Go down memory lane.
Let's let's take it to break.
Am I right, brother Z?
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Oh, hey, I'm doing good.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
And you know what?
Let's go to hell right now.
No, we're gonna go beneath hell.
We have these parents out here.
I think the parents of these kids are mentally retarded.
I think they're slow.
I think some of these parents are crack babies.
And I think some of them UCPS are not putting a foot clean up in a kid's ass.
Because when you raise your kids, when they leave that house,
They already know what's tolerating, what's not tolerating, because if they're getting them streaks and getting the situation, they're going to be calling their parents.
So I personally feel there's something lacking in the household.
Maybe they screwing too much, and they need to take the time to keep their foot in their kid's ass.
That's why they out there, that little girl, 12, 13 years old, ain't nothing but a little whore, and she don't got no walls by the time she's 17.
They out here fighting, acting like a bunch of monkeys that broke loose from the cage, and then when somebody put a bullet in their ass, they doing a go fund me.
This starts at home.
You can have as many resources out there, but if you don't stay on your kids back, and if you don't keep your foot in their ass, like you keep your face in that Bible, that...
is the outcome.
That is the mama and the daddy problem.
That is not the society problem.
That's not the community problem.
And that's why nobody wanna be around them crump snatching uncontrollable, disrespectful, no home training bastards.
That's a mama and daddy problem.
Maybe they should stop screwing the wrong DNA.
We gotta keep it 100.
We gotta hurt some feelings.
Cause mama gonna be hurt the next day.
Cause she went too long that night on her back.
So we gonna hurt some feelings immediately right now.
See, we don't never really want to talk about it.
We want to use poverty.
We want to say CPS.
Don't say use a CPS.
Just say, I'm a mother.
I'm a daddy.
I don't give a damn.
But I don't want to raise my goddamn kids.
So I'm going to put money on his books when he go to prison because I don't got what it takes to put books, money on his books when his little ignorant ass trying to go to college.
That's what I think we need to say or if we don't we're gonna be going down the same road and the north side Don't continue to look like below it and then they can tell you we don't have no resources And then we can get stung by a piece of rebutt that's coming out the goddamn concrete.
How about
Have a good day.
Bye.
Bye
Well, thank you Al
scared very much.
What'd you think about that?
I
Yeah.
I might not say it in the most, you
it.
You know,
sometimes, exactly, and sometimes people do need to hear
just straight.
They don't need a chaser.
They need to take it straight and I think the theme of this whole conversation today been people need to be more involved with their children's lives.
I think a big issue for me is like, I know some kids don't even have that.
Like they just bouncing around from group home to group
foster home to foster home.
So what happens with those kids?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, and then those kids go to school with
Our kids and they they normally are good at being like you said they know organized chaos they know how to be the leader of a pack and they know how to.
Demand a room so to speak so who who kind of sways those kids who teaches those kids.
That's a good way to put it because granted some of them do have parents in a life that just don't care enough or.
that aren't too involved.
But we got a lot of these kids out here.
We'd be surprised to see the numbers of how many kids just don't have parents that are involved at all.
You know, that could care less what's happening, whether
their problem, the state's problem.
They ain't even gonna do a go for me for some of these kids.
care.
You know, so what do we do with them?
is Wisconsin State Fair already uses community-based violence interrupters.
Volunteers, in bright orange shirts that I spoke of, drawn from Milwaukee County community groups who patrol the ground specifically to de-escalate conflicts before they become fights.
One volunteer, Black Shife, describes the approach directly.
If we're seeing them congregating that look like it could turn into something, we get in there.
We diffuse it immediately.
We're all we got.
I mean, we as a community are all we got.
If we don't do it, it's not going to get done.
Once again, I say these are volunteers.
I want I want us to hear this.
Is that West Dallas?
Where state fair is West Dallas?
We send volunteers not paid state fair staff.
Exactly, so meaning the program
about walking man like come on man.
you attract Exactly
attract new walkie people
volunteer is never really volunteer.
So the program scale and consistency depends on community ground community groups showing up on their own, not a guaranteed funded state fair park hiring commitment.
Which is why I say the bigger conversation privatization of violence prevention These folks already volunteering to turn confiscated guns in off the street and catching second felonies We can't offer them a real contract to do this work then
And like I said, volunteering is not just show up and stand around.
Like you said, they use them as consultants.
They expect them to put their lives and their, what is it, lives and their record on the line, but you don't want to pay these people.
Absolutely.
And then they wonder why it's so hard to find these type of volunteers.
You see what they dealing with.
The police gonna come after the problem.
So if you don't have somebody to intervene as the problem looks like it's brewing like Black Shives said, when we see them congregate and what's going on, let's find out before it get too, you know what I'm saying too far, but you're not even people that are literally putting themselves in harm's way nine times out of 10.
And that's just unfortunate.
We look at people that do violence prevention work, violence interruption work, they put their lives on the line and they don't have the proper tools and resources when they are putting their lives on the line to even protect themselves.
They got no shields, they got no firearms, they don't even got flashlights.
Bulletproof vests, they have nothing.
Bright orange shirts that says, hey, I'm the target.
Here's this gun lock and here's this book.
Please stop the violence.
Oh yeah, I'm just volunteering as well.
Invest in violence prevention.
I'm talking about all these companies downtown.
You want downtown to be better?
Invest in violence prevention.
Don't wait for the city to do it.
You invest in it That's that's that's what I that's just my thoughts Shannon.
I'm gonna let you
Stirred a pot tonight, today, before we close out.
That sounded crazy.
Before we head out, we had two word comments.
One of them said, sometimes people say what others think but are too polite to say.
And then we have the village has to continue to put when it can.
Some kids have unimpaired parents and others have parents who still need parenting.
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