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Good afternoon, Milwaukee.
You're tuned in to the lunch break on 101-7 The Truth, where everything is an option on the menu.
And one thing about me, I'm a tough cookie, but I know what I can do, and I'm not suffering.
All right?
I fought my whole life.
I'm all right.
Excuse me, Cletus.
Hoppa, who this man?
Yeah, I wasn't doing it.
So I was like, I'm not paying $1,000 to sleep on somebody couch.
Grab your lunch, hit send on that email, and get ready for the best hour of your day.
My way of thinking is that the parents do all they can.
But once the kids leave off that door, whatever have you, they make their own decisions.
I don't care if you 9 or 99.
It's still your decision about the situations that you get involved yourself in.
Look into their taxes.
Look into this.
We talking about elected officials doing backdoor deals and somehow she still wanna blame immigrants.
That's what we talking about right now.
We following the money and you still wanna blame black people and immigrants and welfare and all of these things for policies and backdoor deals that put poor people in worse position.
Live from the American Family Insurance Studio at the Third Street Market Hall.
Like you said, they want to pat their pockets, but they need a reason to push things through.
And I guess the low-hanging fruit is, OK, well, this is a problem, right?
Y'all want to fix the problem, and they just hope nobody looks into it like, wait, when did food trucks
become an issue?
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Yo, what up?
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Good afternoon.
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It's Friday.
How y'all feeling on this Friday?
Shannon, how you feeling?
Man, I'm feeling great.
We made it.
We made it through another week, man.
Almost
happiest Friday.
The weekend has approached upon us.
Man, I'm getting some rest.
That's crazy.
I'm actually off this weekend.
actually got two days in a row off.
All jobs.
I
what to do.
I might just stare at a wall and
don't know.
Let's do it.
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happy Friday y'all Marty Gray say yes Friday
Yeah,
I like that.
I like that, man.
So get active, man.
Join the chat.
Man, we got a pretty full menu today.
We got a pretty full menu today.
Shannon, I know you got an appetizer for us.
Bro was crying about his students.
But on today's menu, we gonna have for the lunch break,
We wanna talk about the power of motion, all right?
We wanna talk about movement, mind, and health.
And we wanna get into some of that because later in the show today, we have an interview with AD Corkor, one of the sponsors for Truth Family Fest coming up.
And we wanna get into some things that they have going on and what the foundation does and so forth.
So we wanna talk about that.
Today, just kind of like warming the table.
And then, Shannon, we want to get them a little heads up about some local news, right?
MMSD is getting ready to award a $700 million contract to a company.
And...
We gonna talk about it because it's kind of controversial.
Seven seven hundred seven seven hundred.
That sounds crazy.
Seven hundred million dollars is not a small amount of money.
And I want to know.
I
guess I ain't getting awarded the contract.
Y'all would have knew.
Y'all would have knew.
I would tell you
There would have been signs.
There would have been signs.
Man, and also what a man.
Man, we want to talk about data centers.
I really want to get into data centers and really, really have a real kind of honest conversation about it.
I want us to talk about the numbers behind the controversy.
I want to hear your concerns about data centers as well.
And what have you learned and saw in research about data centers?
Then we want to talk about the proposed moratorium and what would it actually do, right?
Then also Shannon, we want to talk about some data centers that are already here.
I know we had a lot of conversation about what's to come and the dangers of what the future could look like and the pollution of the environment.
But we have some data centers here right now and just want to give some information on what those data centers are or at least a couple of them and just show some numbers behind it, right?
And then I Feel like we should talk to them Shannon about okay, I Have a this might not be a popular take Shannon
it might not be a popular take.
The views and opinions expressed
on
What you gonna say Ray?
I don't even have a spot here.
It's not gonna be a popular
Well because you know, it's such a polarizing conversation right now, even in politics all across the country.
Everybody's talking about data centers, data centers, data centers, data centers, right?
So I got to take people may not just be so.
Quick to support.
But I just want us to look at a deeper conversation.
Why I think human consumption.
Of data in general.
We need to have an honest conversation about our human consumption.
And why we could be part of the reason that these data centers even exist.
So I want to talk about that.
Then Shannon, I want us to get into some of the apps we use every day and what keeps them
running.
wonder what keeps them running.
You want some?
OK.
going to get some
rest.
This is what happened.
I feel like I know as a human, I need rest, but my ADHD don't let me do it.
Like for one day, I probably a clean up, probably sit down on the couch and I'm like, what's going on outside?
Let me just call a friend.
Oh, well, I'm just gonna do this.
And I'm like, okay.
And then from there, the story writes itself.
And then there was tequila.
But I feel like it'd be equally as important to spend time with friends and like actually find time for fun.
All this work, I gotta spend them paid, you know what I'm saying?
What about you?
What about your plans?
wait.
What?
Didn't you tell me you wasn't gonna go?
you're going twice
now?
be doing a no-state fair.
ended up there twice.
They sent the text out.
How'd you get there two times?
Amanda put the text out.
She was like, we're going to stay fair, and we're dragging your dad with us.
As much as I tried to resist it
I was down there eating corn dogs, corn, funnel cakes with strawberry.
I ain't know who I was.
I was a whole different person.
I was like, yesterday I was like, man, I think I want to go stay here again.
Very diminishing.
I had too much fun.
Break.
What up,
show thank God they all footed to dilly-dally how I please Hopefully it ain't 200 degrees out here.
I might go for a walkers
I'm
And we're going to be talking about the power of motion and movement.
But Shannon, man, we had an interesting appetizer you sent for the folks today.
So we're going to bring that to the table real quick and share with our cousins this appetizer.
And I want to know how y'all feel about this.
I know how some people feel, but I really want to know how y'all feel about this 833-212-1017.
That's the number to dial.
eight, three, three, two, one, two, ten, seventeen as a number to dial.
You could text that number as well.
All right.
What we got, Shannon?
All right, let's get into it.
So imagine being accused of planning a mass shooting targeting black people at one of the biggest black cultural festivals in the country, being arrested with a gun and roughly 200 rounds of ammunition.
And then months later, walking out of jail without facing criminal charges.
That's what
happened in the case of Christopher Gilliam a former North Carolina law enforcement officer Gilliam was arrested in April in Destin, Florida after his own family Reportedly alerted authorities that he had expressed threats about harming black people
Investigators said that he was allegedly traveling toward New Orleans to carry out a mass shooting at a festival believed to be the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival.
Authorities located him using flock camera technology.
I'm happy to use.
They finally use it for good.
When he was arrested, investigators recovered a handgun and approximately 200 rounds of ammunition from his hotel room.
Gilliam was eventually extradited to Louisiana.
and faced a state terrorism related charge.
But now there's a major development as Louisiana grand jury declined to indict him, finding that there wasn't enough evidence to move forward under the state's terrorizing statute.
Gilliam was subsequently released and according to current reporting, he is not facing any additional charges.
And this is where I think the conversation gets complicated.
A grand jury declining to indict does not mean a jury found him innocent at trial.
It means that the prosecutors did not get an indictment on that particular charge.
At the same time, authorities have had previously described a seriously threat, serious threat of firearm and hundreds of rounds of ammunition.
So my question for you guys this morning is when the law enforcement
has enough information to intervene and potentially prevent a mass shooting, but prosecutors later say there isn't enough evidence to bring charges.
What should happen next?
For those who would have been at that in that crowd, this isn't just the legal question.
It's about whether or not tragedy was prevented and whether our system has the tools to respond before somebody actually pulls the trigger.
jazz and heritage?
Yeah, they said it was the jazz and heritage fest that he might have been traveling to I guess with correlation to the dates he was traveling and when he got to his hotel and stuff they said that jazz and heritage fest
imagine that
Mm hmm.
And told his family.
His family are the ones that alerted the authorities.
own family
Mm
Yep.
He was already ready to roll.
Ready to rock and roll.
Yeah.
So I don't think he, they even press charges, basically.
That means like he just walks away, Scott free if I'm not mistaken.
It looks like he was an ex-police officer.
Yeah, he was an ex-police officer.
Yeah, former North Carolina law enforcement officer.
That makes sense.
North Carolina, I heard, is a wild place.
Okay.
this dude might know exactly who doing it.
But we don't know any of the facts yet, but what we do know is we've seen this time and time again where people get off or less sentencing or even when they are apprehended in the act, they get treated with
so much different energy than our community.
It makes me think of the kid, not even a kid, the monster who went into that church, prayed with them folks, what was the name, Dylan, and killed them after.
And then they took him to Burger King.
Yeah.
They treat them like, oh, they didn't mean it.
Like here I kind of looked over it again.
It says They so what I think they got him on was like terrorizing threats or something like that because it said after finding there wasn't enough evidence to move forward under the state's terrorizing statute It was released.
So yeah, that's crazy.
Hmm for you to be found like you made these threats
made your way over
Like
That is wild
Way different
bit because I just hate how hard we also are on our own people It's like we extra hard on our own people, but I think it's Mostly out of fear and out of knowing nobody else is gonna be gentle with you either, you know, but it's also like man We act like we act like everybody is facing the same issues and it's just not the same way for other people
what I am happy about in this case.
They finally use the flock cameras for something
God.
I keep I've been seeing so many reports about them using them fly cameras to stalk ex-girlfriends and
I'm like,
this used for?
What you're supposed to be using this for?
At this point, I would have thought that's what they told them to use it for.
You
like somebody.
Just
find them.
cameras this for.
is making some adjustments to their policies on and it should be taking place.
It should be taking effect January 1st, 2027, if I'm not mistaken.
And what I did see on the news this morning was they are saying that instead of holding data.
Ah, it's funny.
Instead of storing the data for more than, I guess, 90 days, they're considering or the proposed changes, they would store it for seven days or something like that.
And then they're working through the ideas of like, okay, what does that look like if the footage is needed for an investigation?
So we will definitely...
monitor the situation a little bit more uh frequently so
yeah that's interesting i mean what does it you know what never mind i was gonna say how does that help the issues that are going on with flock they making these updates but that don't sound like it directly like helps out what's going on with flock like people literally abusing the system
What they
need to have is a flag if an officer is consistently accessing a certain name That should be like after five like why are you doing this or like unauthorized access happening?
Like it should automatically be a flag like they they can do all this stuff.
Why can't they just
Right.
I do know one of the women that found out she was being looked up.
There's like a website.
Am I being flocked.com or something like that?
I think that's how she found out.
Yep.
Yep.
I got to look up the website, but that's how one of those officers ended up getting in trouble.
She looked their name up and was like shocked to see she was like looked up a hundred something times.
So there's that.
But we'll be right back after these messages.
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It is Friday.
Yes.
It is Friday.
The menu is full today, y'all.
The menu is full today.
Man, uh... What, uh... What you want to go to on this menu, Shay?
I feel like we can a la carte it today.
We don't gotta...
Yeah, a la carte.
I'ma let you pick.
I'ma let you pick, Ray.
carte meet you.
Let's
I'm interested.
hear about that seven hundred million.
Okay
MMSD $700 million contract, right?
So just giving you all some information about the contract itself.
The Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewers District is choosing a new private operator for a 10-year contract worth roughly $55 to $70 million per year.
So up to $700 million total over the life of the deal.
$700 million total over the life of the deal.
And I feel like I've seen this, I've seen this before.
If it's 700 million, I'm willing to bet it's another 20 to 50 million somewhere is gonna be over that.
Companies always find a way to have change orders and raise the costs.
But,
Nevertheless, seven hundred and seven hundred million total over the lifespan of the deal, which is going to be 10 years.
So what does it cover?
It covers operation and maintenance of the Jones Island and South Shore water waste plants.
Excuse me.
The deep tunnel system, the milligranite fertilizer plant.
and the regional sewer network serving 1.1 million people across 28 communities.
So that's a huge responsibility.
That's a huge responsibility.
Serving 1.1 million people across 28 communities, the current operator, Viola, North America, French owned running MSD, MMSD since 2008.
It's competing against Dallas based Jacob solutions a Recommendation is expected from the review committee around August 17.
So this is coming up With the final commission vote expected in late September So I Know people is like, okay, what does this mean?
It's a lot we could
It's a lot we could get into, right, about what this means, right?
But just for context, I want us to know the state that the country is in.
And I think we got, I would like to say we got a good idea, right, Shannon?
Unless you like SpongeBob living in a pineapple under the sea.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
For real, looking at SpongeBob, even suffering weight.
You know what?
Everything suffers.
So... Okay.
Jacob's Solution, one of the two finalists, has documented strategic partnership with Palantir
The data analyst analytics company that has held contracts with ICE since 2011 and is currently building tools like Immigrations OS, a 30 million dollar ICE contract to help track down undocumented people using data pooled across federal agencies.
Wow.
Oh, brother.
Moving on.
Latino president, forward Latino president, Daryl Moran summed up the community concern directly.
We are more than concerned to learn
that a strategic partnership is in place between the two companies.
MMSD own executive director Kevin Schaefer has pushed back on the alarm saying MSD builds communities directly, not individuals, doesn't share private information and that any data and operator with access is public data, not resident level personal data.
Jacobs has also told the Journal Sentinel it treats data privacy seriously and only uses client data under strict safeguards for authorized project purposes.
So even right there was a contradictory.
Am I, did I, did I not hear?
So hear me out here.
MS, MSD own director Kevin Schaefer says he pushed back on the alarm.
saying MMSD builds communities directly.
Not individuals.
It doesn't share private information and that any data an operator would access is public data, not resident level personal data.
But then Jacob says it told the Journal Sentinel it treats data privacy.
Very seriously and only uses client data under strict safeguard.
So it's like do they not got it or do they got it?
Hmm Well Moving on I just you know notice the key word in here data
Yeah
Data day.
Data day.
For contacts, Palantir's ice relationship isn't new or hidden.
It dates to 2011 and has grown at least $248.3 million in total ice contracts, including a $30 million deal to build Immigration OS, a database explicitly designed to help track down undocumented people using data pooled across multiple federal agencies.
And I know people like, you know...
They ain't just using that to track down Latinos They're trying to track down Africans I even saw Somebody that's running for I can't remember what country they were running in but she made a ironically enough AI generated video for her campaign that had her in a like a
a garbage truck that got the arms.
And she was just like picking up little black people off the street and throwing them in the back of the truck.
They would
be
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
That's horrible.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
But we'll keep it moving.
Palantir's federal footprint is expanding well beyond ICE right now and reported $244 million Pentagon deal a $1.3 billion defense department contract through 2029 for Project MAVEN and reporting that the Trump administration had asked Palantir to help build a centralized database consolidating information across federal agencies.
a request that has drawn bipartisan privacy concerns in Congress.
Now, none of this means MMSD data specifically would flow to Palantir or ICE.
Jacobs and Palantir are separate companies with a business partnership and MMSD data is described as public infrastructure data, not resident records.
But it explains why advocacy groups are treating any corporate tie to Palantir as a red flag worth surfacing before a $700 million public vote.
Not after.
Yeah.
So I actually, you know, I invest in the stock market and stuff like that.
Right.
Yeah.
And, you know, I.
I actually had invested in Palantir.
I did.
I had put a few dollars into Palantir and then once I did some research and realized what it was they do, I liquidated all my shares.
Because I got immigrant family.
And I give a damn about humans.
And I see the climate that people have to navigate.
and deal with and go through.
But I don't
And then it's like they playing in our face because they trying to say, oh, it's not directly correlated to ice.
It ain't like the money going to go straight to them, right?
But it's clear that this company has a lot to do with ICE.
That's wild to me.
Wow
I think we be negotiating wrong We be negotiating wrong I feel like 700 million like
Why we don't have a partnership with these companies to where revenue flows back to the city the county the state whatever that looks like Yeah, you got open AI offering the United States 5% of Their company just so they could now obviously they probably doing that to get certain things rubber stamped and pushed through and whatnot right but
You have companies that is offering all of these percentages and where it flows back into the state.
It flows back into somehow lowering costs for citizens.
But don't go anywhere, y'all.
We'll be right back after these messages on the award-winning 10170 Truth.
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And some of the companies, well, one of the companies in particular had some questionable ties to a company that has serious ties to ICE.
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what's on the menu.
So.
It's jelly not jam.
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Let's get back on track here.
So yeah, y'all, we talking about this data.
And what has been going on.
And it brought up.
It brought up this conversation that I wanted to have.
Like, what's fueling these data centers?
So.
I want us to talk about the apps that we use every day and what keeps them running.
What do you think of that, Shannon?
Hmm.
Let's hear it.
going to guess it's going to be some disappointed people hearing hearing the apps and let's keep them running.
Let's let's go.
So every major platform people use daily Google search and Gmail, Instagram and Facebook, Metta, Amazon and Amazon Web Service hosted apps, Microsoft Outlook.
teams and every AI chat bot runs on exactly this kind of data center infrastructure.
Hmm.
Google data centers alone consumed 6.1 billion gallons of water in 2024 up from 4.3 billion in 2021.
And company-wide water use hits 10.9 billion gallons in 2025, a 34% year-over-year jump driven specifically by AI deployment, not just infrastructure construction.
Meta's data center uses 776 million gallons in 2023 alone, 95% of the company's entire water footprint.
Nationally, U.S.
data centers use an estimated 264 billion gallons of water in 2025 when counting the electricity generation behind them.
And about 40% of U.S.
data centers sit in areas already facing high or extreme water stress.
By 2028, U.S.
data centers could consume at least as much as 12% of the entire nation's electricity.
according to Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.
We're going to pay them electric bills.
All things are part of our daily lives right now.
That's kind of ironic, though.
Dang.
I'm just saying, Shannon, am I tripping?
It's like, if you care so much about data, just write me a letter about it.
You have to mail me a letter for real.
You don't have to go to the post office.
That's true.
They force us to do that.
That's not by choice.
use it.
We do gotta show we if we really upset about data We have to look at our data consumption.
Okay.
I do you want even better Netflix Streaming kick Twitch, I don't We stream it right now, huh?
We streaming right now using data
Our consumption is driving.
We don't want to hear this.
Now, can we have a separate conversation about how companies are finding ways and manipulating people and programming people to stay on platforms even longer to increase data consumption?
Absolutely.
because we didn't always have auto reels where it just keep playing endlessly, endlessly, endlessly.
You don't even realize, like, dang, how'd I get here?
I'd be forgetting.
I'm even, I forget what platform I'm on.
I'd be like, wait, what is this?
Tickle her Instagram.
How did I get on Facebook?
how automatic it is.
Yeah.
She ain't got they graphics turning around and making it clap two times
I'm trying to tell y'all I was on shin
and I was shopping for a shirt and the mannequin turned around and start making it clap.
not joking.
I screen recorded because I thought I was going crazy.
They doing all types of stuff over there.
I know it was some data.
The mannequin had yams, you know, I'm just wondering, but seriously though, like it was a lot of work.
I was like, I just wanted to see a picture of the shirt.
Could all have been so simple, but uh.
It probably took some data.