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Um, uh, we want, shall we do it now?
Shall we want?
Okay.
We'll give him the rundown first.
We'll give him the rundown first.
So first we're going to talk about Mark Zuckerberg.
Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg and his.
300, 350 million dollar, 387 foot super yacht.
They just drove past some folks that was in distress on the boat.
We're going to talk about
And they getting paid not to, not to, not to, not to.
Not that.
But everybody else getting paid hand over fist.
But we gonna dive into some of those numbers.
and Taylor Farms and the prison labor pipeline.
Some of these numbers was actually not surprising, but I think it's important that we share this with our audience and our cousins, because we need to know what's going on.
Then we want to talk about what allows something like this to take place, right?
It's the 13th amendment So we gonna break down the third that see how my accent just be trying to slip up the 13th amendment we gonna brick it on That Caribbean dude would be fighting to get out swear.
That's not
He's strong today.
So felony disenfranchisement.
So felony disenfranchisement, you know, is bigger than just us and how they use felonies to disenfranchise communities.
So we want to go in and talk about, you know, some of those things.
And then we want to give you an update on the Wisconsin governor race.
Yes, we're going to talk about it, but not in the.
aspect I think you all will talk about.
Well, you would expect us to talk about it.
We just want to talk about the Unity Breakfast.
And there was some very, very interesting that I noticed at the Unity Breakfast.
I want to see if anybody else noticed it.
So we'll play a game with our audience if you can see what we're talking about, identify something in this picture.
But anything you want to add, Shannon, before you take us to
There's nothing to add.
I'm ready to get into the meeting potatoes, but first you got to do that appetizer, which is a good one as well.
So I'm excited to be here and yap with you, Ray.
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So, we're gonna get right into this with this appetizer.
Shannon got a very interested appetizer for us today.
Shannon, what you got for us?
Alright, so let's talk about the story that has a lot of people questioning how far money can get you and whether common courtesy disappears if you have a $300 million yacht.
A small 21-foot skiff ran out of the door off the coast of southeast Alaska on August 3rd.
The people on board needed assistance and the US Coast Guard put out a marine assistance broadcast.
So this is where things get interesting.
Mark Zuckerberg's super yacht launch pad was reportedly closer to the stranded boat than the vessel that ultimately came to help out.
Passengers aboard the wilderness legacy of small cruise ships say that their captain told them that Zuckerberg's yacht had been contacted, but no one responded.
The cruise ship eventually stepped in, told the stranded boat to safety and helped them get refueled.
Thankfully, everybody is okay.
The passengers heard that a nearly 400 foot luxury yacht was reportedly nearby while another vessel had to come to the rescue.
Now, before we drag Mark personally, there's an important part of this story.
Zuckerberg and his wife reportedly...
We're not on the yacht.
That's what they're saying.
But of course, yeah.
All right.
Anyways, a spokesperson says that the crew was monitoring a different radio channel so they didn't even hear the Coast Guard's request until after assistance was already on the way.
So they was doing something else.
They didn't even know.
That's what they're trying to say.
Well, yeah.
The Coast Guard also determined that the boat was not technically in distress.
Meaning that the yacht was not legally required to assist just by them coming up with all these excuses made me feel like y'all was on that boat Y'all just trying to cover every aspect like we ain't really have to do it and we wasn't even there if we could honestly And the people that was on it wasn't even listening to the same station
Right.
That's where the debate gets interesting because legally obligated and morally obligated ain't always the same thing.
If you have a massive yacht sitting nearby and another boat is stranded, should you help simply because you can?
Or is it unfair to expect someone, even if someone with hundreds of millions of dollars to stop what they're doing to help another vessel that needs assistance?
Nobody died.
Nobody got hurt.
But the story does have people asking the question about wealth when you have more than enough resources to help Does it create responsibility to help?
So I want to know if you had a 300 million dollar yacht and you knew another boat nearby needed help Would you stop to help or is that just not your problem?
They
Like little things like this could have like made him look so much better.
Even like the excuses that were made like, well, we weren't on there.
Well, there was a crew on there.
Like, what was y'all doing on a Super Yacht then?
Tell me.
I was partying and doing blow.
No, I'm just
I think that's why people do be having problems with billionaires and so forth.
Because they don't do what's right with the money.
I'm not one to tell anybody what they should do with their money.
But to ignore this stress call,
Like, OK, sure, it may not have physically looked like something was wrong with their vessel or skiff, whatever we want to refer to it as.
But it could have been a medical emergency, you know,
to where, like, a whole cruise ship had to turn around and get them, like, any type of emergency.
It wouldn't have been that.
I mean, it would have been a cool experience for them.
I'm sure they wouldn't have minded you continuing your yacht endeavors.
They could have stayed in the basement.
Yachts are kind of big.
You could have been like, listen, this is Mark's boat.
Just just be cool.
And they probably would have been cool.
You know what I'm saying?
I can only imagine how much security with or without his wife and him being on there.
I'm pretty sure that thing is riddled with security.
It is super like.
Cruz invited a skift because he was on his $300 million super yacht and he didn't have time to be bothered with the ports.
He said, they'll be all right.
That ain't exactly what he said.
We, we actually read the real report, but now I'm just, I'm at it right now, but any who will be right back after this break.
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You know what, now that you said that, listen, I'd be too deep in the TikTok trenches and it's a thing called, listen, this going somewhere, it's a thing called yachting.
And I heard that the billionaires all partake in it.
They invite like these celebrities on like models and all this type of stuff and they pay them millions of dollars to be on these boats doing nefarious activities.
It's like a big, big ditty party on water.
I'm just saying, so maybe that's probably why he wasn't there and not answering lion's flu, see?
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We're talking about Mark Zuckerberg right now.
We're about to wrap up our appetizer in a second, but.
We're talking about Mark Zuckerberg on his $350 million yacht.
This is about roughly 400 plus foot super yacht.
All right, y'all, we're going to get into.
the meat and potatoes on our lunch break here, right?
We want to talk about Taylor Farms and the prison labor pipeline.
We got that.
We got that video queued up.
We had to.
No, not not not not not the fact check video, not the fact check the actual story.
Segments right themselves.
But we're gonna talk about tele-farms, right?
One of the largest fresh produced suppliers, fresh food, fresh produce.
I hate how sometimes the American language is.
It'll be a word that's spelt the same that is, you say it so many different ways.
But anyway, fresh produce suppliers in the US has been documented contracting incarcerated labor.
through Arizona Correctional Industries, the for-profit arm of the state's Department of Corrections, Rehabilitation, and Reentry.
I hope y'all are following me, right?
Cool.
We gonna walk this down.
So, Telefarms paid the state of Arizona $4.75 an hour
for each incarcerated worker.
While incarcerated workers themselves were capped at earning just one fifty an hour of that.
Hope you all listen.
The company saved an estimated 70 to 90 percent versus market rate for labor costs.
70 to 90 percent versus the market rate for labor costs.
So they paid the state.
The state made more off the deal than actual inmates.
People like, you know, this slavery, this is this is.
Well, we will get to that part as well, too.
So.
This resurfaced in the news this month specifically because guess what?
Telefarms is also the company at the center of the current.
Help me with that word, Shannon.
That's the explosive diarrhea stuff, right?
You know, you tell me there's a fact check video the actual video.
Oh, so this video When we was talking about this this morning, you know, we fact check a lot of things so I was like Shannon read through the deck and See if you see anything Shannon sent.
Oh, it's not the fact check.
Go ahead play this one
Why Taylor Farms didn't want their name in the news and why the federal government was so quick to say Oh, it was an accident.
It was a false positive.
Look here folks slave labor
They've got a Department of Corrections contract in Arizona where they're paying inmates $1.25 an hour.
But guess what?
The Department of Corrections in Arizona, they're getting $4.75 per person per hour.
Folks, you can't make this shit up.
Yes
Taylor Farms has been linked to using prison labor in Arizona through the state's correctional industries program.
They paid the state about $4.75 per hour, while inmates got up to $1.50 an hour, often called exploitative or slave labor, confirmed by Snopes and others from 2023 reports.
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We got to catch up on some of these comments, right?
We didn't lift the comments.
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They've gone astray.
So Jasmine Jazz says, it's the pinky finger of the boats.
I think we was talking about the little, the skiff.
The skiff, the skiff.
Corey Haywood said, the cartoon characters of you guys are pretty good.
Trump is trying to bring slavery back, I think.
Where does all that money go off the back of incarcerated people chicken fruit in the hot sun?
What's chicken fruit?
Taylor Farms, how to be ashamed of themselves, I think he meant to say.
Guru said, they also keep the high rate ways and streets clean with the chain gangs.
Streets be clean, though.
I mean, some of them, some of the streets be clean.
Jasmine Jazzless said they about to go under for this.
I hope they do too.
But I feel like it's kind of known.
A lot of these places are using slave labor and they don't go under.
They're always somehow saved or just gets forgotten about or they move it like to private.
And maybe they got their ways around
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labor pipeline that has been going on and companies that have been taking advantage of it.
And right now we're talking about Taylor Farms, who has been linked to the explosive diarrhea.
Yes.
This company has been linked to the explosive diarrhea.
And as Shannon mentioned earlier in our one, a lot of times when we have these outbreaks in explosive diaries is because of unsanitary working conditions and so forth.
Ironic enough.
No, is it ironic at that prison?
The prison system is getting complaints about the living conditions and then they probably send folks out to work in whatever that case may be.
But we said this hour, we wanted to talk about some of the companies just to mention some of them that has, you know, used prison labor.
One more comment that just came in says Wisconsin has inmates.
working farms.
I can believe it.
I can believe it.
Yeah,
And restaurant chains McDonald's Wendy's Burger King Chipotle Domino's popular brands found in these stores Coca-Cola ballpark hot dogs frosted flakes gold metal flower So just a couple Companies some of our favorite companies that takes advantage of this
Prison slash lavery type slavery type labor and we're gonna get into the 13th amendment which allows this to actually take place and we're gonna break that down but Real quick.
Let's go to a winky blue on the line.
Winky.
How you doing you live with the lunch break crew?
How you doing my man?
How you doing, right?
I was just sitting there getting the bike and I said let me chime in on this prison this prison please listen
We all understand what's going on.
So you can't beat them with talking about it.
You either have to become an investor along with them because Lena Taylor actually tried to fight that right here in our state, right here locally, men that were working below wages.
And I think she got a little, she got a little movement on that.
I don't know what the outcome of that was, but I can remember her
addressing that issue.
And you look at people like Tommy Thompson.
Well, his wife does all the commonsery for what she used to.
I don't know if she still does it.
All the commonsery for the prisons here in the state of Wisconsin.
I mean, that's a multi-million dollar industry right there by itself, just the commonset with the inmates.
And I hear Miss, what's her name?
She always calls in about her son that was locked up in Bosco.
I understand that, but we got to understand what the nature of his crime was.
It's not always because he was a bad person.
It might be for his safety to go to a maximum security.
It's like Walpons' greenhouse before there was real maximum security lockdown joints for your security.
We don't know the nature of his crime.
His crime might have warranted, but to be put there for his own safety, you know, it might seem harsh.
But hey, man, we're trying to keep you alive, Jack, so we're going to put you here.
And I hear a talk about that all the time.
But anyways, I'll tell you one thing, man, that this prison, this industrial prison deal is a serious thing when you've got outside people that are coming into this country that are actually taking jobs out of the hands of the American people.
Guess what, man?
When we get out of jail,
Most of the time, us Black folk, we only qualify for vocational jobs.
We don't qualify for higher educational jobs.
So those jobs, when a man is released out of prison, there is none.
So he finds himself at a temporary service, which he don't get no action because, excuse me, the elite, I mean, the foreigners are running the temporary service.
Now, the white boys own the temporary services, but they're allowing them to run it.
And they send Native people out every day.
religiously to a job site.
But me and you, we want to sit there and wait to get chose, wait to get called back.
Then they sent us and work us for about four or five days and then they lay us off and call us back.
But they sent me people constantly, persistently.
That's how they got the new cars.
That's why they're coming into the north side neighborhoods buying up everything.
Mexicans buying it up, it ain't just, and the Arabs is buying up commercial and trying to buy everything, making back because he that owns the land, he that owns the land will definitely rule
the continent that they own, the properties that they own in that continent.
So we need to realize that they not just come and get new cars and we run around here in 2004, Vovo's and they driving brand new cars because they're using our system, the very system that me and you deserve to use.
And I know I'm talking to you, man.
Let me get on out here with that prison deal.
What'd you say?
I thought somebody said, when our guys and our women get out of jail, they mostly only qualify for vocational jobs.
we don't have them because they given away already.
They don't have higher education.
Appreciate it, Brother Winky calling in.
I would, you know, once again, I would like for us to...
Do a lot of research on these things, you know, I heard brother wiki say a lot of things I'm not going to speak on what miss Sandra's son Situation was because we don't know So I'm not gonna bring it up.
I'm not even going to comment on it, you know I know she's somebody who's dealing with the prison system and her son is in it.
So I'm I'm not qualified to to dive into that
part of it.
Yeah, I'll just do some research, man.
I know everybody is entitled to their opinion.
But let's keep going on this, right?
Arizona's Correction Agency told fact checkers, it does not currently maintain an active contract with Taylor Farms as of this, as we put this together here.
The Claire's documentation on record dates
to 2019 to 2023.
Taylor Farms did not respond to requests for comment.
And like we said, Taylor Farms is not alone.
You got Hickman's egg farms.
You have Nature Suite.
And then you have a call center company.
Tela Verde have all been documented to use in the same Arizona prison labor pipeline.
So.
It's a lot y'all we got a we got a couple couple comments in the chat Wisco Jay said not true at all I'm assuming Wisco is referring to what winky was saying.
He said winky is one of those spewing right wing propaganda Winky land of plane, bro.
We all say Cuz it's be funny.
So is that the foreigners fault?
or the one doing the hiring.
Come on now, Winky Wink.
Who said that?
Never mind.
Get your hand out of my pocket.
Brother, cousin Guru always on something.
So.
Appreciate the education, y'all.
But yeah, man, 833-212-1017.
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We are talking about the prison labor pipeline and how is this able to be happening right now in this country?
Essentially, we have inmates.
Did they change the word to properly address, you know, in a more
humane
Yeah.
Residents.
that are incarcerated, they're getting paid essentially $1.50 an hour and states are getting paid $4.75 an hour.
When we come back, we'll talk about the 13th Amendment and how this is allowing things like this to happen.
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Maybe Shannon DJ brother Z holding this down with the production is sound We talking The prison labor pipeline companies that are taking advantage of it And what is allowing that to actually happen And we gonna do our best to try to explain this
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Also, we got a few comments in the chat, right?
It looks like somebody said conversations with Francisco, right?
Yeah, friend, you know, friend goes He said because the country was built off slavery.
That is why this is able to happen.
They never wanted to end slavery Somebody agreed with guru saying yes guru
So because the country was built off slavery, this is why this is able to happen.
They never wanted it to end, which is actually very true because when they did in slavery, people think people were just like, oh yeah, y'all can go out and be free, but people also didn't know where to go and what to do.
And then they start just making like.
anything illegal that black people were doing, that way they could put them back into the system and then now you're back in jail working again for free.
Like they may, I think it was like not having a job illegal or something like that when they ended slavery.
But of
And just so nobody is mistaken here are some of the companies that we mentioned that, you know, use that prison labor pipeline, Walmart, Target, Kroger, Aldi's Costco, Whole Foods, McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Chipotle, Domino's, Coca Cola, ballpark hot dogs, Frosted Flakes.
Gold, metal, flower.
That's just a few.
It's more.
It's way more.
But that's just a few.
We're going to get into the 13th Amendment and how this allows this to happen.
But before we do that, let's talk to Miss Charlotte because of Charlotte.
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You live with the lunch break crew?
I'm doing fine.
How are you?
This is a very important topic because I think a lot of black people don't know that most prisons are contracted out to private.
The biggest one prison in the United States is a company called Wacken.
And they use their, they have security services, they say, but they manage a lot of prisons.
And so this is the way that the state can say, well, we're not responsible for the slave labor because it's contracted out.
And I used to lecture young people and tell them, every time you do something stupid,
You're a cash cow.
Prisoners very very lucrative.
It's a very big industry between the Contracts to run the prison and the side contracts for the ports and spoons and toilets.
It's big money It's big money and I want young people to think about that you commit a felony Susie goes to college You're a cash cow
So I'm glad you were bringing this up because people need to know it's not the state that's roaming the prisons It's private contractors and that way the state can wash their hands of anything that goes on So remember that it's a very good topic
Thank You miss Charlie for calling in part of the lunch break family appreciate you Yes States do contract with private prisons They do contract with private prisons
I think we talked about that on this show as well.
We also talked about how Wisconsin at the time, we exported a lot of our residents to Texas if I wasn't mistaken.
Like, yo, we might need that clip because that was actually a very good conversation as well when we brought that up.
about how much money goes into it.
And she's right, like it's important that they know, like every time you commit a crime, you literally a money sign to these people.
They're like, oh, we getting our beds full.
Who was that?
That was Miss Sandra that called in and brought up the 13th Amendment and the documentary called the 13th.
I do recommend if you haven't.
Go check out that documentary.
Go check it out.
Check it out when you get some time, maybe after lunch.
Check it out.
So here's the actual text, right?
Ratified in December 1865, the 13th Amendment reads, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime, whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.
shall exist within the United States.
Except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted shall exist within the United States.
I'm going to read the whole thing just so we hear it.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime, whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States.
So the amendment didn't abolish slavery outright.
It never abolished it outright.
It abolished slavery except as for a punishment for a crime.
That's in the 13th Amendment.
So that has remained fully intact for over 150 years.
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I'm gonna read it one more time.
For him, Shannon.
That's why they talk about that sweat sweet sweat equity.
Mmm.
I felt like hearing that in 2026 it just felt so gross and like
The boy was so young like he was like I want to say like 18 he couldn't be more than 25 years old Hmm in that that is that's how they were even that was their leverage of keeping him alive They wanted to execute him the crime he committed.
Yeah.
Yes committed a crime He should be in jail, but just to hear though the way that they spoke about a human it's just like This is 2026 and they're like we can get some really good swag.
What are you?
He's a hard worker, a young man.
Strong.
Like Jesus.
And I feel like for anybody that has any type of understanding of what that looked like, that's what it felt like for him.
Because it went viral because of the wording that was used by his lawyer.
But his lawyer was trying to do him a service.
That was literally how they were able to keep that man alive.
He
Hey, I'm blessed how y'all doing we doing good cuz
can All right, all right, so I have a success story so to speak But it started out.
I was one of the youngest people to actually be sent to prison I was like 15 I was 14 when they sentenced me, but they held me tall 15.
They sent me to prison so Working in there.
They got they had badger state industries
Look that up look up and see how much they network is and how much they make and then they had Bob Barker who?
Yeah, same Bob Barker from the TV show he make all the toothbrush all the mattresses all that stuff man listen It's so real they they went when they when they say it's cheaper to send you to college than the prison it is but that's the The money isn't in solving the problems y'all
If that was the case, then every black kid out here, they give them the cure for sickle sale because they got the cure.
They got it.
It just cost a hundred million dollars.
And they know it's only black kids who go through that.
So the cure is not giving you what you want.
It's not solving the crimes.
It's none of that, bro.
It's a business.
It's a billion, hundred billion dollar business.
It's not just a business.
It's not just, you know, and this has been going on for
Longer than any of us could even understand and I'm 47 so and I of course I've gone through life got my record clean all that I'm doing good But that's not the point the point is they would rather throw you away Then to educate you or reform you That's all I want to let y'all know bro.
I appreciate that information cousin can I pulled up our badger state industries real quick just so folks could get a quick arm
idea of what Badger State Industries is.
It is a state-run program, so it's not a private or publicly traded company, but it is a state-run program operated under the Bureau of Correctional Enterprises within the Wisconsin Department of Corrections, functioning on annual operational revenues and statutory mandates rather than equity.
So who owns it is the state of Wisconsin the Department of Corrections annual revenue generally fuck fluctuates around 20 million dollars gross depending on state and military contracts So that is badger Industries, uh, let's go to break we gotta go to break y'all don't go anywhere.
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Right now we talking about how the prisoners power in business.
Let's kick it to the chat.
It looks like we got a few comments that we might have, uh, glazed over.
We got young money seven, Michelle Alexander's book, the new Jim Crow also goes over the 13th amendment and how it relates to black incarceration.
Jasmine Jazz West said licking the chops at sweat equity.
That's exactly how I view it.
I bet they'd be just, they'd be salivating.
They'd be like, there's some good sweat equity.
He's going to be alive at least another hundred years.
He's going to work this one.
Anyway, before he said it gets an average of 120 degrees in Arizona, can you imagine working in that hot sun all day with explosive diarrhea, pennies on
the
How?
Sorry, pennies on the dollar for pennies on the dollar.
How?
Huh, how are you dead?
Why do folks ask us why we so angry?
Vincent said, where is my 40 acres?
Wisco Jay said, just to play devil's advocate, a lot of first world countries have prison labor, not that I condone it.
I'm just saying America is not the only country doing it.
Guru said more money in treating than curing.
And Sir Chan said, Chan said, yeah.
I want about Bob Barker products being manufactured then distributed throughout the prison system including but certainly not limited to just the state but the Bureau of feds fed prisons
Big Mike.
Yeah, y'all, we talking about the 13th Amendment and how it actually created the the framework for legal slavery in our country today.
We want to raise minimum wage.
Man.
Yeah, we want to raise minimum wage to 20 But Or is do people feel like oh they just inmates why do they need to get fear pay
They're going to charge you $20 in jail.
You're going to be drinking that diarrhea water.
Batteries.
To listen to a CD player, stuff that we don't even want no more, stuff that Dollar Tree barely even sell.
Yeah, sweet sweat equity.
But just to speak to what Westco Jay said, he did say that other countries have prison labor.
He doesn't condone it, but he was just saying America isn't the only place.
But I think the point that we're making right now is that black people are more often subjected to this because of the laws and the way things are set up.
Is that not?
Kind of what we tap dancing on over here.
So like like we said not too long ago Back when slavery was was it is the word abolished?
Yes
every quote unquote was supposed to end what ended up happening is they made these laws like that were impossible for black people to even abide by like well if you don't have a job you're going to jail and it's like okay well most black people just got out of slavery so where where where should I start where do I get a job so literally throwing them back into the system so I think that's pretty much what we what we skating on um no hundred percent from
We talking about how that exception has actually been used so what Shannon is referring to y'all is immediately after the Civil War Southern states exploited those laws that she's talking about Those loopholes through it was called black codes Black codes and mass arrests
of newly freed black people for vague offenses like vagrancy, not having a job.
Then least those prisoners, prisoners.
Labor to plantations and companies in a system historians called convict leasing.
Yeah, which function
Just by another name.
Easy.
And then it just takes me to other things.
So many things are rooted in racism and the backs of black people in America that people don't even realize.
When they be like, dang, black Americans can't swim.
I don't know when I did this research.
I'll have to obviously double check that.
But when they did the white flight, and so they said most of the community pools in black neighborhoods, most of the pools that existed,
They, they basically like covered it in cement.
So black people didn't even get that chance.
So obviously that's another thing passed down from generation to generation.
It's a lot of things that happen in our community that we just don't, like we just know it's happening, but we don't really understand the why until you start doing the digging.
And you're like, Oh, that's interesting.
Like every thing, smaller, large, it's literally by design.
And we, we can't just, you know, glaze over it.
So
Like
they are.
Okay.
I remember places.
Yes.
places have a cap.
how much you can receive in general.
So today, the same constitutional exception is why prisoners can be required to work often for pennies, an hour or nothing at all.
Without the wage, safety or workplace protection that applies to every other worker in America.
Why?
Because
In December 1865, the 13th Amendment states neither slavery nor involuntary servitude except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted shall exist in this country.
the United States of America.
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feel about
That was a lot of comments a lot to digest But we did have a caller over to break and they wanted us to share that Places some places have a cap on how much?
Residents can spend in a day as well.
So Because there's like I guess people with huge
business accounts and stuff in there.
And I guess that's another way of bribery, I guess, and getting control of it.
You could get somebody
a little less so like when you in jail like the smallest thing actually can be used as like contraband or is like a way to like bargain because you got people in there that don't have the basic necessities and when you got a soap bar stacked to the ceiling and Honey buns, you know, I'm saying you you might be the man in that you know, I'm saying look I got honey buns for days I got noodles and in jailhouse burritos for all you might be president of the prison.
Um, so I could understand
a little bit.
It's the way to keep the peace.
But yeah, there's cats on a lot of things in there.
Prison labor produced an estimated $11 billion worth of goods and services.
This is in 2022 alone.
Spanning from agriculture, manufacturing, call centers and more.
$11 billion.
Man.
I wonder how much the state taxes itself on its revenue.
For real.
We got to do some digging on that.
Because you want to tax me if I make a million and one dollar to knock me back down humble.
I know they say it's
a small
getting them billion 11 billion You know what that's not fair to put on the state the state our state isn't getting 11 billion.
Let me let me clear that up but the prison labor Produced an estimated 11 billion dollars worth of goods and services in 2022 alone spending from agriculture manufacturing call centers and more
Roughly two dozen states have since amended their own state constitutions to remove similar language.
But the federal 13th Amendment itself has never been changed, meaning the underlying national loophole remains.
So if you just joined in us, we talking about the legal slavery that is happening right now in the prison industry in our country and what allows it to do that, which is the 13th Amendment that we've been going over.
Just to give y'all some of the numbers again, what brought this up was Taylor Farms paid state of Arizona $4.75 an hour for each incarcerated worker.
While the incarcerated workers themselves were capped at earning just 150 an hour of that, the company saved an estimated 70 to 90% versus market value.
These were things that had been put in place.
through things called black codes since after the civil war immediately after the civil war with a mass arrested black people for vague offenses like vagrancy not having a job.
And that's crazy to say you don't got a job.
Boy, so I'm going to arrest you.
And then we get these people that don't realize how like how we America really is set up for us to fail and they want to be like, oh, you guys have a victim mindset and this and that like If you actually do your research and figure out why everything is the way it is you will know It's not a victim mindset.
It is what it is.
Like, can you continue on with life?
Can you try to fight against it?
Yes, but
To just flat out ignore history is wild or to blame us for the history or the cars we were dealt Crazy
man, I'm looking on the text line and We got a text says Loophole is expunge when you pardon and that will cut down the legal slavery Think about it a pardon ain't sugar honey iced tea.
I bet you we know who sent that text without expunge
And also said the Bible also added to slavery because it dumps down black people If you keep black people dumb, they will never use their own power So Yeah, we talking about the legal slavery that's going on in our prison systems and how the 13th amendment amends that I know we wanted to talk about Who which states
amended their own stuff.
See if I can pull that up, Shannon.
Shannon, what you got for us real quick while I pull this up?
Like we want livable wages and like because y'all yelling about livable wages, they just took it to the jails and was like, we could pay these people $4 an hour.
That is insanely greedy.
We got.
people riding around in 300 million dollar yachts while we got others that will never see that type of money in their lifetime.
And these these are the same people that are like, we need to save just a little more money instead of giving these overworked underpaid people that are free the money that they deserve and they work hard for.
Let's just kick it off to the prisons and work these sweet sweat equity workers for a dollar an hour.
in a hundred and twenty degree weather or they experiencing an explosive diarrhea all over our lettuce.
it is one, two, three, four, five, six states that has been in Colorado in 2018, Nebraska in 2020, Alabama in 2022, Oregon in 2022, Tennessee in 2022 and Vermont in 2022.
Additional states continue to introduce or consider similar ballot initiatives and legislative measures to close these loopholes in their respective states governing documents.
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So Jasmine Jazz says, it's the pinky finger of the boats.
I think we was talking about the little, the skiff.
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Corey Haywood said, the cartoon characters of you guys are pretty good.
Trump is trying to bring slavery back, I think.
Where does all that money go off the back of incarcerated people chicken fruit in the hot sun?
What's chicken fruit?
Taylor Farms, how to be ashamed of themselves, I think he meant to say.
Guru said, they also keep the high rate ways and streets clean with the chain gangs.
Streets be clean, though.
I mean, some of them, some of the streets be clean.
Jasmine Jazzless said they about to go under for this.
I hope they do too.
But I feel like it's kind of known.
A lot of these places are using slave labor and they don't go under.
They're always somehow saved or just gets forgotten about or they move it like to private.
And maybe they got their ways around
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labor pipeline that has been going on and companies that have been taking advantage of it.
And right now we're talking about Taylor Farms, who has been linked to the explosive diarrhea.
Yes.
This company has been linked to the explosive diarrhea.
And as Shannon mentioned earlier in our one, a lot of times when we have these outbreaks in explosive diaries is because of unsanitary working conditions and so forth.
Ironic enough.
No, is it ironic at that prison?
The prison system is getting complaints about the living conditions and then they probably send folks out to work in whatever that case may be.
But we said this hour, we wanted to talk about some of the companies just to mention some of them that has, you know, used prison labor.
One more comment that just came in says Wisconsin has inmates.
working farms.
I can believe it.
I can believe it.
Yeah,
And restaurant chains McDonald's Wendy's Burger King Chipotle Domino's popular brands found in these stores Coca-Cola ballpark hot dogs frosted flakes gold metal flower So just a couple Companies some of our favorite companies that takes advantage of this
Prison slash lavery type slavery type labor and we're gonna get into the 13th amendment which allows this to actually take place and we're gonna break that down but Real quick.
Let's go to a winky blue on the line.
Winky.
How you doing you live with the lunch break crew?
How you doing my man?
How you doing, right?
I was just sitting there getting the bike and I said let me chime in on this prison this prison please listen
We all understand what's going on.
So you can't beat them with talking about it.
You either have to become an investor along with them because Lena Taylor actually tried to fight that right here in our state, right here locally, men that were working below wages.
And I think she got a little, she got a little movement on that.
I don't know what the outcome of that was, but I can remember her
addressing that issue.
And you look at people like Tommy Thompson.
Well, his wife does all the commonsery for what she used to.
I don't know if she still does it.
All the commonsery for the prisons here in the state of Wisconsin.
I mean, that's a multi-million dollar industry right there by itself, just the commonset with the inmates.
And I hear Miss, what's her name?
She always calls in about her son that was locked up in Bosco.
I understand that, but we got to understand what the nature of his crime was.
It's not always because he was a bad person.
It might be for his safety to go to a maximum security.
It's like Walpons' greenhouse before there was real maximum security lockdown joints for your security.
We don't know the nature of his crime.
His crime might have warranted, but to be put there for his own safety, you know, it might seem harsh.
But hey, man, we're trying to keep you alive, Jack, so we're going to put you here.
And I hear a talk about that all the time.
But anyways, I'll tell you one thing, man, that this prison, this industrial prison deal is a serious thing when you've got outside people that are coming into this country that are actually taking jobs out of the hands of the American people.
Guess what, man?
When we get out of jail,
Most of the time, us Black folk, we only qualify for vocational jobs.
We don't qualify for higher educational jobs.
So those jobs, when a man is released out of prison, there is none.
So he finds himself at a temporary service, which he don't get no action because, excuse me, the elite, I mean, the foreigners are running the temporary service.
Now, the white boys own the temporary services, but they're allowing them to run it.
And they send Native people out every day.
religiously to a job site.
But me and you, we want to sit there and wait to get chose, wait to get called back.
Then they sent us and work us for about four or five days and then they lay us off and call us back.
But they sent me people constantly, persistently.
That's how they got the new cars.
That's why they're coming into the north side neighborhoods buying up everything.
Mexicans buying it up, it ain't just, and the Arabs is buying up commercial and trying to buy everything, making back because he that owns the land, he that owns the land will definitely rule
the continent that they own, the properties that they own in that continent.
So we need to realize that they not just come and get new cars and we run around here in 2004, Vovo's and they driving brand new cars because they're using our system, the very system that me and you deserve to use.
And I know I'm talking to you, man.
Let me get on out here with that prison deal.
What'd you say?
I thought somebody said, when our guys and our women get out of jail, they mostly only qualify for vocational jobs.
we don't have them because they given away already.
They don't have higher education.
Appreciate it, Brother Winky calling in.
I would, you know, once again, I would like for us to...
Do a lot of research on these things, you know, I heard brother wiki say a lot of things I'm not going to speak on what miss Sandra's son Situation was because we don't know So I'm not gonna bring it up.
I'm not even going to comment on it, you know I know she's somebody who's dealing with the prison system and her son is in it.
So I'm I'm not qualified to to dive into that
part of it.
Yeah, I'll just do some research, man.
I know everybody is entitled to their opinion.
But let's keep going on this, right?
Arizona's Correction Agency told fact checkers, it does not currently maintain an active contract with Taylor Farms as of this, as we put this together here.
The Claire's documentation on record dates
to 2019 to 2023.
Taylor Farms did not respond to requests for comment.
And like we said, Taylor Farms is not alone.
You got Hickman's egg farms.
You have Nature Suite.
And then you have a call center company.
Tela Verde have all been documented to use in the same Arizona prison labor pipeline.
So.
It's a lot y'all we got a we got a couple couple comments in the chat Wisco Jay said not true at all I'm assuming Wisco is referring to what winky was saying.
He said winky is one of those spewing right wing propaganda Winky land of plane, bro.
We all say Cuz it's be funny.
So is that the foreigners fault?
or the one doing the hiring.
Come on now, Winky Wink.
Who said that?
Never mind.
Get your hand out of my pocket.
Brother, cousin Guru always on something.
So.
Appreciate the education, y'all.
But yeah, man, 833-212-1017.
That is the number to dial.
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We are talking about the prison labor pipeline and how is this able to be happening right now in this country?
Essentially, we have inmates.
Did they change the word to properly address, you know, in a more
humane
Yeah.
Residents.
that are incarcerated, they're getting paid essentially $1.50 an hour and states are getting paid $4.75 an hour.
When we come back, we'll talk about the 13th Amendment and how this is allowing things like this to happen.
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Maybe Shannon DJ brother Z holding this down with the production is sound We talking The prison labor pipeline companies that are taking advantage of it And what is allowing that to actually happen And we gonna do our best to try to explain this
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Also, we got a few comments in the chat, right?
It looks like somebody said conversations with Francisco, right?
Yeah, friend, you know, friend goes He said because the country was built off slavery.
That is why this is able to happen.
They never wanted to end slavery Somebody agreed with guru saying yes guru
So because the country was built off slavery, this is why this is able to happen.
They never wanted it to end, which is actually very true because when they did in slavery, people think people were just like, oh yeah, y'all can go out and be free, but people also didn't know where to go and what to do.
And then they start just making like.
anything illegal that black people were doing, that way they could put them back into the system and then now you're back in jail working again for free.
Like they may, I think it was like not having a job illegal or something like that when they ended slavery.
But of
And just so nobody is mistaken here are some of the companies that we mentioned that, you know, use that prison labor pipeline, Walmart, Target, Kroger, Aldi's Costco, Whole Foods, McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Chipotle, Domino's, Coca Cola, ballpark hot dogs, Frosted Flakes.
Gold, metal, flower.
That's just a few.
It's more.
It's way more.
But that's just a few.
We're going to get into the 13th Amendment and how this allows this to happen.
But before we do that, let's talk to Miss Charlotte because of Charlotte.
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You live with the lunch break crew?
I'm doing fine.
How are you?
This is a very important topic because I think a lot of black people don't know that most prisons are contracted out to private.
The biggest one prison in the United States is a company called Wacken.
And they use their, they have security services, they say, but they manage a lot of prisons.
And so this is the way that the state can say, well, we're not responsible for the slave labor because it's contracted out.
And I used to lecture young people and tell them, every time you do something stupid,
You're a cash cow.
Prisoners very very lucrative.
It's a very big industry between the Contracts to run the prison and the side contracts for the ports and spoons and toilets.
It's big money It's big money and I want young people to think about that you commit a felony Susie goes to college You're a cash cow
So I'm glad you were bringing this up because people need to know it's not the state that's roaming the prisons It's private contractors and that way the state can wash their hands of anything that goes on So remember that it's a very good topic
Thank You miss Charlie for calling in part of the lunch break family appreciate you Yes States do contract with private prisons They do contract with private prisons
I think we talked about that on this show as well.
We also talked about how Wisconsin at the time, we exported a lot of our residents to Texas if I wasn't mistaken.
Like, yo, we might need that clip because that was actually a very good conversation as well when we brought that up.
about how much money goes into it.
And she's right, like it's important that they know, like every time you commit a crime, you literally a money sign to these people.
They're like, oh, we getting our beds full.
Who was that?
That was Miss Sandra that called in and brought up the 13th Amendment and the documentary called the 13th.
I do recommend if you haven't.
Go check out that documentary.
Go check it out.
Check it out when you get some time, maybe after lunch.
Check it out.
So here's the actual text, right?
Ratified in December 1865, the 13th Amendment reads, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime, whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.
shall exist within the United States.
Except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted shall exist within the United States.
I'm going to read the whole thing just so we hear it.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime, whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States.
So the amendment didn't abolish slavery outright.
It never abolished it outright.
It abolished slavery except as for a punishment for a crime.
That's in the 13th Amendment.
So that has remained fully intact for over 150 years.
eight three three two one two ten seventeen that's the number to dial eight three three two one two ten seventeen that's the number to dial prison labor pipeline legal slavery in our countries in our states in our cities black bodies brown bodies all bodies
I'm gonna read it one more time.
For him, Shannon.
That's why they talk about that sweat sweet sweat equity.
Mmm.
I felt like hearing that in 2026 it just felt so gross and like
The boy was so young like he was like I want to say like 18 he couldn't be more than 25 years old Hmm in that that is that's how they were even that was their leverage of keeping him alive They wanted to execute him the crime he committed.
Yeah.
Yes committed a crime He should be in jail, but just to hear though the way that they spoke about a human it's just like This is 2026 and they're like we can get some really good swag.
What are you?
He's a hard worker, a young man.
Strong.
Like Jesus.
And I feel like for anybody that has any type of understanding of what that looked like, that's what it felt like for him.
Because it went viral because of the wording that was used by his lawyer.
But his lawyer was trying to do him a service.
That was literally how they were able to keep that man alive.
He
Hey, I'm blessed how y'all doing we doing good cuz
can All right, all right, so I have a success story so to speak But it started out.
I was one of the youngest people to actually be sent to prison I was like 15 I was 14 when they sentenced me, but they held me tall 15.
They sent me to prison so Working in there.
They got they had badger state industries
Look that up look up and see how much they network is and how much they make and then they had Bob Barker who?
Yeah, same Bob Barker from the TV show he make all the toothbrush all the mattresses all that stuff man listen It's so real they they went when they when they say it's cheaper to send you to college than the prison it is but that's the The money isn't in solving the problems y'all
If that was the case, then every black kid out here, they give them the cure for sickle sale because they got the cure.
They got it.
It just cost a hundred million dollars.
And they know it's only black kids who go through that.
So the cure is not giving you what you want.
It's not solving the crimes.
It's none of that, bro.
It's a business.
It's a billion, hundred billion dollar business.
It's not just a business.
It's not just, you know, and this has been going on for
Longer than any of us could even understand and I'm 47 so and I of course I've gone through life got my record clean all that I'm doing good But that's not the point the point is they would rather throw you away Then to educate you or reform you That's all I want to let y'all know bro.
I appreciate that information cousin can I pulled up our badger state industries real quick just so folks could get a quick arm
idea of what Badger State Industries is.
It is a state-run program, so it's not a private or publicly traded company, but it is a state-run program operated under the Bureau of Correctional Enterprises within the Wisconsin Department of Corrections, functioning on annual operational revenues and statutory mandates rather than equity.
So who owns it is the state of Wisconsin the Department of Corrections annual revenue generally fuck fluctuates around 20 million dollars gross depending on state and military contracts So that is badger Industries, uh, let's go to break we gotta go to break y'all don't go anywhere.
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Right now we talking about how the prisoners power in business.
Let's kick it to the chat.
It looks like we got a few comments that we might have, uh, glazed over.
We got young money seven, Michelle Alexander's book, the new Jim Crow also goes over the 13th amendment and how it relates to black incarceration.
Jasmine Jazz West said licking the chops at sweat equity.
That's exactly how I view it.
I bet they'd be just, they'd be salivating.
They'd be like, there's some good sweat equity.
He's going to be alive at least another hundred years.
He's going to work this one.
Anyway, before he said it gets an average of 120 degrees in Arizona, can you imagine working in that hot sun all day with explosive diarrhea, pennies on
the
How?
Sorry, pennies on the dollar for pennies on the dollar.
How?
Huh, how are you dead?
Why do folks ask us why we so angry?
Vincent said, where is my 40 acres?
Wisco Jay said, just to play devil's advocate, a lot of first world countries have prison labor, not that I condone it.
I'm just saying America is not the only country doing it.
Guru said more money in treating than curing.
And Sir Chan said, Chan said, yeah.
I want about Bob Barker products being manufactured then distributed throughout the prison system including but certainly not limited to just the state but the Bureau of feds fed prisons
Big Mike.
Yeah, y'all, we talking about the 13th Amendment and how it actually created the the framework for legal slavery in our country today.
We want to raise minimum wage.
Man.
Yeah, we want to raise minimum wage to 20 But Or is do people feel like oh they just inmates why do they need to get fear pay
They're going to charge you $20 in jail.
You're going to be drinking that diarrhea water.
Batteries.
To listen to a CD player, stuff that we don't even want no more, stuff that Dollar Tree barely even sell.
Yeah, sweet sweat equity.
But just to speak to what Westco Jay said, he did say that other countries have prison labor.
He doesn't condone it, but he was just saying America isn't the only place.
But I think the point that we're making right now is that black people are more often subjected to this because of the laws and the way things are set up.
Is that not?
Kind of what we tap dancing on over here.
So like like we said not too long ago Back when slavery was was it is the word abolished?
Yes
every quote unquote was supposed to end what ended up happening is they made these laws like that were impossible for black people to even abide by like well if you don't have a job you're going to jail and it's like okay well most black people just got out of slavery so where where where should I start where do I get a job so literally throwing them back into the system so I think that's pretty much what we what we skating on um no hundred percent from
We talking about how that exception has actually been used so what Shannon is referring to y'all is immediately after the Civil War Southern states exploited those laws that she's talking about Those loopholes through it was called black codes Black codes and mass arrests
of newly freed black people for vague offenses like vagrancy, not having a job.
Then least those prisoners, prisoners.
Labor to plantations and companies in a system historians called convict leasing.
Yeah, which function
Just by another name.
Easy.
And then it just takes me to other things.
So many things are rooted in racism and the backs of black people in America that people don't even realize.
When they be like, dang, black Americans can't swim.
I don't know when I did this research.
I'll have to obviously double check that.
But when they did the white flight, and so they said most of the community pools in black neighborhoods, most of the pools that existed,
They, they basically like covered it in cement.
So black people didn't even get that chance.
So obviously that's another thing passed down from generation to generation.
It's a lot of things that happen in our community that we just don't, like we just know it's happening, but we don't really understand the why until you start doing the digging.
And you're like, Oh, that's interesting.
Like every thing, smaller, large, it's literally by design.
And we, we can't just, you know, glaze over it.
So
Like
they are.
Okay.
I remember places.
Yes.
places have a cap.
how much you can receive in general.
So today, the same constitutional exception is why prisoners can be required to work often for pennies, an hour or nothing at all.
Without the wage, safety or workplace protection that applies to every other worker in America.
Why?
Because
In December 1865, the 13th Amendment states neither slavery nor involuntary servitude except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted shall exist in this country.
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feel about
That was a lot of comments a lot to digest But we did have a caller over to break and they wanted us to share that Places some places have a cap on how much?
Residents can spend in a day as well.
So Because there's like I guess people with huge
business accounts and stuff in there.
And I guess that's another way of bribery, I guess, and getting control of it.
You could get somebody
a little less so like when you in jail like the smallest thing actually can be used as like contraband or is like a way to like bargain because you got people in there that don't have the basic necessities and when you got a soap bar stacked to the ceiling and Honey buns, you know, I'm saying you you might be the man in that you know, I'm saying look I got honey buns for days I got noodles and in jailhouse burritos for all you might be president of the prison.
Um, so I could understand
a little bit.
It's the way to keep the peace.
But yeah, there's cats on a lot of things in there.
Prison labor produced an estimated $11 billion worth of goods and services.
This is in 2022 alone.
Spanning from agriculture, manufacturing, call centers and more.
$11 billion.
Man.
I wonder how much the state taxes itself on its revenue.
For real.
We got to do some digging on that.
Because you want to tax me if I make a million and one dollar to knock me back down humble.
I know they say it's
a small
getting them billion 11 billion You know what that's not fair to put on the state the state our state isn't getting 11 billion.
Let me let me clear that up but the prison labor Produced an estimated 11 billion dollars worth of goods and services in 2022 alone spending from agriculture manufacturing call centers and more
Roughly two dozen states have since amended their own state constitutions to remove similar language.
But the federal 13th Amendment itself has never been changed, meaning the underlying national loophole remains.
So if you just joined in us, we talking about the legal slavery that is happening right now in the prison industry in our country and what allows it to do that, which is the 13th Amendment that we've been going over.
Just to give y'all some of the numbers again, what brought this up was Taylor Farms paid state of Arizona $4.75 an hour for each incarcerated worker.
While the incarcerated workers themselves were capped at earning just 150 an hour of that, the company saved an estimated 70 to 90% versus market value.
These were things that had been put in place.
through things called black codes since after the civil war immediately after the civil war with a mass arrested black people for vague offenses like vagrancy not having a job.
And that's crazy to say you don't got a job.
Boy, so I'm going to arrest you.
And then we get these people that don't realize how like how we America really is set up for us to fail and they want to be like, oh, you guys have a victim mindset and this and that like If you actually do your research and figure out why everything is the way it is you will know It's not a victim mindset.
It is what it is.
Like, can you continue on with life?
Can you try to fight against it?
Yes, but
To just flat out ignore history is wild or to blame us for the history or the cars we were dealt Crazy
man, I'm looking on the text line and We got a text says Loophole is expunge when you pardon and that will cut down the legal slavery Think about it a pardon ain't sugar honey iced tea.
I bet you we know who sent that text without expunge
And also said the Bible also added to slavery because it dumps down black people If you keep black people dumb, they will never use their own power So Yeah, we talking about the legal slavery that's going on in our prison systems and how the 13th amendment amends that I know we wanted to talk about Who which states
amended their own stuff.
See if I can pull that up, Shannon.
Shannon, what you got for us real quick while I pull this up?
Like we want livable wages and like because y'all yelling about livable wages, they just took it to the jails and was like, we could pay these people $4 an hour.
That is insanely greedy.
We got.
people riding around in 300 million dollar yachts while we got others that will never see that type of money in their lifetime.
And these these are the same people that are like, we need to save just a little more money instead of giving these overworked underpaid people that are free the money that they deserve and they work hard for.
Let's just kick it off to the prisons and work these sweet sweat equity workers for a dollar an hour.
in a hundred and twenty degree weather or they experiencing an explosive diarrhea all over our lettuce.
it is one, two, three, four, five, six states that has been in Colorado in 2018, Nebraska in 2020, Alabama in 2022, Oregon in 2022, Tennessee in 2022 and Vermont in 2022.
Additional states continue to introduce or consider similar ballot initiatives and legislative measures to close these loopholes in their respective states governing documents.
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