We have the attorney, attorney Emile, who actually filed.
the lawsuit.
Could you tell us more about this lawsuit as well and what is that going to look like, the process and any other things that we could reference locally in the city of Milwaukee where you may have had to step in and issue a lawsuit because rights were being violated?
Yeah, absolutely.
So the lawsuit is quite simple, right?
So my client's a Muslim woman.
She has covered her hair her whole life.
It's required by her religion.
She practices that.
She got booked into the Waukesha County Jail on this and then charges.
That's a separate one.
I'm not going to talk about that.
But here's
to talk about, which we can talk about.
They made her take the covering off for the booking photos.
And they printed the photo on a wristband.
She had to wear that the whole time.
She was there and every man in the building got to see it and the photo was out public record and if I didn't want to ask him for it.
Now, there are procedures and, you know, across cities and across other police departments, they respect people's religious rights and their freedoms.
We're not saying that, you know, they shouldn't have been a photo of her taken without her job, but it doesn't have to be public.
You could have both of those photographs and the measures that they needed to put into place
You know, or quite simple.
Now, I think a lot of people could maybe think of this as a, hey, you know what?
That doesn't affect me.
But here's the thing about constitutional rights.
If they're not protected, right, they fade away, right?
And every avenue and every avenue where that is being disrespected or at least not complied with in rights to actually stand for those,
Well, that's amongst us to ensure that the rights have been protected.
Now, this isn't an anomaly.
I think in the first one, I think there was a lawsuit out in New York City that led to a class action on this same issue, right?
And that resulted in, you know, in millions of settlements.
I think the ACLU brought that lawsuit and the NYPD had to change their book-in processes.
And so that's what we're asking for here.
We're asking for
the Lancashire of these apartments to ensure that when they deal with people of diverse backgrounds, and when they deal with people who practice their faith, that they have policies that accommodate that.
And this isn't the first time we dealt with things like this.
I'm a civil rights attorney here in town.
We've sued the police in cases involving police shootings, excessive forces, and failures to protect.
where we believe people's rights had been violated, most recently was protecting the rights of the man by the name of Joseph Walker back in 2024, where he was shot by police in the back on his front porch on the south side.
And that resulted in a $2 million verdict.
And again, because of a jury, which was kind of refreshing, a jury of primarily non-Wisconsinist Milwaukee folks,
concluded that the cops, you know, sort of violated my client's constitutional rights.
And I think if we don't take government to task when they mess up and when they violate our rights, you know, the constitution falls apart.
And so we have to be conscious of this and we have to be vigilant in all avenues.
And that's what we're doing here.
I guess I got another question, right?
I would love for you all to.
If she's down for it, would love to have you all in studio.
I actually wasn't even expecting this many people to to call in and take so much interest in this actual post, but it's actually been super engaging and would love to stay updated and see.
You know, hear her opinion as well, hear from her if that's something you all would be open
to.
I have to run back by my client, but one of the reasons I did call in is because I'm glad you guys covered the story, but I think it's an opportunity to educate people on their rights
a whole to ensure that they are being vigilant.
When you get stopped by police, you have rights.
When you get booked, you have rights.
Even when you're waiting for a trial, you have rights.
But if you don't know what those rights are, it becomes quite easy for the government to violate them, right?
And that's what my firm has done in the city of Milwaukee and across the state for over 10 years.
I'm the managing shareholder of Axe Point Law, which is located downtown Milwaukee.
And I've always believed there's a reason I started that law firm to ensure that the rights of employees and employment cases, civil rights cases are protected.
And so this is just one instance where we're doing that.
And again, for anyone who wants to know what their rights are, I think it's very important to, especially given the current climate of the country as a whole, you know, we see what's going on out of Madison.
You see what's going on across the country.
People need to know their rights.
Information and knowledge is our only protection to the anarchy and tools to ensure that the government is being held accountable.
Yes, absolutely My name's Emil of your Gale.
You can follow me on socials on Instagram APT UI underscore a meal my law firms axe point law it's located on a 26 north plankton Road, Milwaukee, Wisconsin our website is ww dot axe point law that's spelled
A-X-E-P-O-I-N-T dot com.
And my full name is Emil Ovier-Gayway.
Man, a perfect timing.
Perfect timing, too, because I do think...
Him calling when that guy said, oh, I kind of knew that would come up that comment like, oh, when you get arrested, that's why I was like, it's a lot going on because a lot of people believe when you get arrested, you just lose your rights.
They could do whatever to you.
It feels that way.
And yes, now you are basically in the hands of people that probably will violate your rights and will be looked at like, well, they were in jail, but it's important to know that you still have rights.
And him pointing out how dangerous that rhetoric is was.
Yeah.
Perfect timing.
Hey, how's it going?
going?
Very good.
So I figured that that would be tied into the Tuskegee introduction letter, which President Mark Brown sent to every student.
And so the fact that they received that before they walked onto campus would probably negate any class action suit because it was just the dress code was just a small portion of
overall production where he talked about their responsibilities as students and the things that the university or the Tuskegee would be responsible for.
And so he said that.
they were going into a renaissance where they were improving on a lot of the services they provide for students
that they would also require students to obtain internships and identify certifications because you guys know with
lot of professional jobs along with your degree you need certain certifications.
He listed in this introduction the fact that there are over 30 certifications that students would
be able to receive at Tuskegee at no cost where there are a lot of schools where you have to pay for those.
He also required them to obtain internships and basically declare your major in your sophomore year as opposed to waiting till you're an upperclassman because he's going to in his new employment center, Kenny Center is what it's called, he's going to have professional people meeting with students
So thus, making the dress code logical, we're creating a business setting, which is actually the history of Tuskegee.
If you look at the first class that graduated, where Booker T. Washington is standing there as the president, Tuskegee was known for being a professional business school.
So the fact that I inform you of that, kind of like if 101.7, the truth is that you guys had to wear casual clothes every day like a
like a school uniform, khaki pants and 101.7, the truth shirt, before you decided to work for them, you would have no right to have a class action lawsuit because of that.
And
he's offering a lot of things to these students and opportunities.
And what he's asking them to do in only public spaces,
only the private spaces, excuse me, in the classroom, in the cafeteria.
and inside of the university.
He's not saying if they're off campus and they're Tuskegee students that they'll be expelled.
He's not saying if they're in a area where the students hang out that's outside, but within the facilities, they are not allowed to wear bonnets, pajamas, and he's letting them know that before they become students, so that would negate any possibility of them suing them.
And I think it is.
good to know when to do what.
When you're on your own time, you can dress like you want and express yourself.
But when you're on someone else's time, then you have to abide by what that organization says.
And the Constitution gives schools and businesses the right to have certain standards that they want while you're on their time.
And that's what Mark A. Brown, the president of the SKT did.
So when we talk about social media,
Most of the time when people tell you something about social media, they say, they say it on social media.
This comes directly from the president, the letter that he wrote.
And if you guys read it, I'll give you all the facts of it.
And that's what these students are being asked to do before they come on campus.
And if they don't want to do it, there are other schools that'll let you walk around with violence.
The caller from Milwaukee, we definitely appreciate this clarity for sure.
So if I'm hearing it right, you're saying before they even came on campus the first day, the letter from the president of the institution put it out.
And, you know, it's not like it was a surprise or something to them is what I feel like I heard the caller said.
Oh, Shannon.
Ah Man, that was so funny just now we get it
It's gonna be even funnier looking in the chat.
Shout out to the chat, man.
Look like y'all had some conflict resolution of y'all's sales that y'all handled in the chat.
I'm real proud of y'all, cousins.
I'm real proud of y'all.
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So I got to read this so y'all know what's going on.
Nope.
All right, DJ Brother C, if you read it, you're doing a giveaway now.
So don't read it if you ain't doing it now.
So I'm not going to read it.
What we going to do, Shannon, is let you take us to break so I could go check on these peanut butter sandwiches that I got in
oven.
We've had a great show today, man.
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Whoa Breaking news Former lieutenant governor Mandela Barnes and his team are discussing dropping out of the
Crowded Democratic primary for Wisconsin governor, according to two people with direct knowledge of the matter.
The conversations come as Democratic officials in the state brace for damaging media reports about Barnes expected to hit in the upcoming hours.
Barnes and his teams have been on calls Thursday to discuss how to proceed.
According to the people granted, a ton, anonymous anonymity.
We gonna work on that one a little later to shape private details.
There we go.
You should have read this one, Shannon.
The primary had become increasingly messy as more moderate leaning Democrats like Barnes have tried to stave off Democrat socialists, Francesca Hong's rise, worried her victory could boost presumed Republican nominee, Tom Tiffany, Wisconsin governor, Tony Evers, endorsement of David Crowley.
who re-entered the race in the final stretch, further complicated the moderate coalition.
Remember when I said, make sure y'all kitchens clean.
Remember I said that like last week or some DJ brother Z. I'm just the entertainer, man.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Obviously, I don't know what I'm talking about.
But obviously, this is just all screenshots and so forth.
So we'll see how official this is as things develop.
Cuz Anita said ran Shannon.
I'm happy to see the two hour revolution The chat side combo is good sign of engagement is what we do.
I know man.
Can't keep up with y'all I missed so many things yesterday Somebody called me like you didn't read my comment.
You mean I
833-212-1017.
It sounds like some damaging reports is coming out about Mandela Barnes.
And it got to be super damaging if he's considering dropping out because I didn't see...
That brother dropping out of anything.
I just for sure saw him Riding this out to the end.
So I am interested in in one what these reports are and two how How much can we rely on this, you know, and do you all what do y'all think y'all think he should drop out I should you know what this Sherwin do this
Sherwin said, at the end of his show, Mandela Bronze, you should drop out.
Thank you for listening.
He said that, and then shouted, the lunch break out.
Ran Shannon is up next.
Should he drop out?
You know my answer.
He got no motion.
He got no motion.
Oh my God.
Do we got the, uh, do we got the receipt?
This screenshot.
You mean this screenshot that I got up right now?
Run to the YouTube link.
Yeah, we just gonna show it.
So you gotta run to YouTube.
It's gonna be real fast.
You gotta run to YouTube.
And we got a contest to do as well.
So run to YouTube.
Run to
sure.
No idea.
I just know DC does not stand for the DC Comics.
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know.
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man.
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Getting a hundred and seventy six years at 65.
I'd have been like, bro, just just take me now.
Take me now.
All right, you got four seconds.
Three seconds.
Two seconds.
One second.
That's it.
That's all you got.
That's all you got.
Well, we'll see y'all if you just joining us.
We just got some Information we don't know how a hundred percent true.
This is this could just all be You know smoking mirrors to to generate some energy.
We'll see how true this is But they said there's some damning information That is set to come out about former lieutenant governor Mandela Barnes What is that information?
What could it be?
I don't know.
But we talking about this man who's 65 years old.
His name is David Boyd of Milwaukee.
He was just sentenced July 16th to a total of 176 years in prison.
115 years, Shannon, of initial confinement, like boss.
Following a jury conviction on five felony counts related to child abuse and sexual assault.
Sentencing breakdown, Shannon included the maximum 60 year term for repeated sexual assault of a child.
Sick.
Sick.
Take him away now.
40 years confinement, 20 years extended supervision, plus a maximum 10 year term for physical abuse of a child.
involving a dangerous weapon among other counts.
What you think, Sharon?
What's your thoughts on this?
We got a minute before this next break.
Not only, I'm sorry, I should say he's 65.
And it's like...
It doesn't even feel like justice will truly be served because he's going to be out of there and give him a few years, especially the conditions in prison.
I just feel like it almost feels unfair.
At this point, we're the firing squad at.
You know what I mean?
three hots in a cot
I got to stand up, y'all.
I got to stand up.
I got to pull one of your moves, man.
I was like, Kyle, I don't know how you stand up for the whole thing.
How you stand up for the whole thing?
He said man, I just got so much energy.
I just be having to To real quick I got Shana.
Where you got where you got for me Shana?
I don't even know what to sit on my talking ladies.
No
do it from this other
Can't get into Twitter.
But it sounds like it's official.
Mandela Barnes has officially dropped out of the race due to some damning information that was due to come out.
Can't throw stones and hide your hands, man.
I tried to tell y'all about y'all, man.
But y'all, y'all
that the number one goal was taking on and defeating Tom Tiffany to deliver big wins for Democrats up and down the ticket.
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We have to do everything to beat Tom Tiffany.
This is life or death for Wisconsinites.
We're losing their health care under the Trump administration.
People who can't afford child
The rich are getting rich while the rest of the officers are scrambling for crumbs.
I know this firsthand and that's why I've always fought for better as a legislator, as an organizer, as a lieutenant governor.
Now while they be suspending this campaign, I'll never give up my fight for Wisconsin.
I'm incredibly grateful for all the folks who joined this campaign, for the people who believed in me in this move and knew that we had a real shot at creating opportunities
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Now, we have to do everything we possibly can to defeat Tom Tiffey.
And that's exactly what I'm committed to doing for the next 96 days.
Last night, I had a very difficult
No, he didn't say anybody.
that was the short
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Shouts out to our family, our cousins in the chat.
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They got the mister when you walk in.
Like when you're by the rides.
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is that the parents do all they can.
But once the kids leave off that door, whatever have you, they make their own decisions.
I don't care if you nine or 99.
It's still your decision about the situations that you get involved yourself in.
Look into their taxes.
Look into this.
We talking about elected officials doing backdoor deals and somehow she still want to blame immigrants.
That's what we talking about right now.
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And I know we're supposed to make sure we're informing our listeners on the important things that are going on, and we will continue to do so.
We will continue to do so, but we will continue to do so with respect for everyone's opinions, and we just want everybody to respect ours as well.
But today,
There won't be too much politics on the menu Shannon.
I'm gonna give them a rundown of the show today.
So you brought something up to my attention about Tuskegee banning do rags and bonnets In classrooms was it or or just on campus period
So we're going to get into that.
Shannon got some force on that.
Then we want to talk about a Milwaukee man's lengthy sentence.
This brother got over a hundred years for some heinous crimes.
We're going to talk to, uh, we're going to just shed some light on that as well.
And then we want to circle back to some things we didn't get to yesterday.
We wanted to talk about the food.
I know we mentioned the food that our toddlers are taking in.
But we want to talk about that and the nutritional impact that it's having on our younger generation.
And then we also want to talk about the unseen toxic sites.
I got a little bit of receipts on the unseen toxic sites that has, you know, been plaguing our city for so long.
I know we talked about it.
a little bit before.
We got some folks in the chat today already, man.
Shots out like Jasmine West,
The chat been hot, man.
They like when we talk about mess and show receipts.
Shots out to Reginald Jones in the chat as well, said, can't stay long, but wish you both well.
Man, appreciate it, man.
Thank you for even spending a minute or two with the Lunch Break crew, man.
DJ Brother Z, how you feeling, man?
Shots out to DJ Brother Z holding us down with the production and sound.
Man,
I ain't
You know what I'm talking about?
But on a more serious note, the community lost a very important member.
I would like to say prayers to Marcy and her family, Marcy Patterson, that passed away.
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Then we thought we was going to have a guest today.
We thought we was going to have a guest today, but maybe it's good for tomorrow as well.
It'll be even better tomorrow.
Tomorrow, we will have Larry Sanders live in studio.
So, Shannon, he was on day one with us if I'm not mistaken, correct?
Everybody love lunch.
That's all I'm talking about.
Favorite meal of the day.
Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
But, uh, yeah, bro... Bro would be here talking, chill out.
Bro would be here talking about a bunch of few different things.
He has an event coming up as well, so he'll be sharing that.
He'll be talking about things that he'll be doing in the city of Milwaukee as well and bringing back to the city.
Reginald said...
DJ Brother Z, you peep them basses we spoke about.
Once you hold on, once you hold on, Alan Bick, you're gonna find yourself in divorce.
What's going on?
What are you talking
Talk about a bass guitar.
Sierra.
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back.
I drove three blocks from my house and realized I forgot my car at home.
I'm not dealing with Guru today.
And his silliness.
I'm not dealing with it today.
Man, what else I'm doing this weekend, Shannon?
So I actually have a performance tonight.
I got a performance tonight, not tonight.
See, my days is all over, but I got a performance on Saturday for our lodge.
It is our lodge anniversary fundraiser at summer 85.
And that's going to be from two to five.
I got tickets if you want to join too.
So I got a busy Saturday from the morning.
We walk in running.
I'm going to be mostly walking.
Then I'm going to be popping into Larry Sanders event.
It's clothing release, her loss release.
And then we got the King David show for the King David Lodge at Summer of 85.
I'll be performing, D'Shea will be performing.
And then I'm going down to Black Arts Fest MKE.
I got to see Dave Hollister.
I got to see it.
He said he go on at like nine, nine, nine, 30, ours wrap up at nine.
So I'm rush out the door and head down there, man.
Leave me alone.
That's what I'm trying to.
You feel me?
But don't go anywhere,
y'all.
Yeah,
I hope I make it through.
And I still got a fine time to campaign.
You feel what I'm saying?
Once again, don't go anywhere.
We're about to take a quick break and then we'll be back.
We're going to be talking about the do rag and bonnet band.
That was just issued at Tuskegee College of HBCU, by the way.
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and no due racks to class or the cafeteria.
That's only some of the updated dress code policy at Tuskegee University.
The announcement is taking social media by storm with opinions split over whether the rules are appropriate or an overreach.
Kailin Parham 2022 Tuskegee Grant says the discourse has been shocking.
So when I'm seeing it blowing up all over the Internet and the shave room and every which way I'm
like wait.
What's going on here?
Y'all talk about my school.
The updated policy also requires students to wear business attire for business meetings and to avoid revealing clothing in class, the cafeteria and convocation.
Parm says this has always been the norm.
That was normal to
see our men walking around with suits or nice, you know, shirt and tie and ladies all dressed up.
Even if they weren't going anywhere, it was just normal.
The main debate on social media surrounds wearing do rags and bonnets in public.
Parm agrees with the university's message, but says the reaction on social media has gone too far.
I've never seen anybody walking
around with a body on at school.
outside of the dorm.
I've seen some very distasteful like AI images of students and they're showing us on campus with Bonnie's to do rags.
It's all fake, fake news.
It was never about Bonnie's to do rags.
I asked her when she thinks the switch happened after COVID.
You don't know what anybody's wearing to class because it's just a bunch of black screens on your computer.
And with all the added attention, she worries incoming freshmen may be left with a bad taste in their mouth.
But not for Tia Bird, despite her classmates' hesitancy, she says she sees the purpose.
It's our home away from home.
So
the part where it's being enforced in like dining halls and areas that they see is kind of like our kitchen.
I kind of see the pushback from that.
But of course, like being preparing, being prepared for our professional careers, I see
the purpose.
You should present yourself in the best way possible and a lot of that has to do with parents.
What up y'all
So as we see the like I'm just gonna reiterate what happened pretty much so the university president Said that the goal is to repair students for professional environments and help build habits that will benefit them after graduation According to the university the policy is intended to reinforce professionalism rather than restrict restrict students The announcement it did spark widespread debate right online like they were talking about pretty much supporters argue that HBC
the US have a long tradition of emphasizing professionalism and high standards.
While critics say that the policy reflects respectability politics and unfairly targets forms of black hair care and cultural expression.
The discussion has spread across social media with many questions, whether dress codes improve academic success or simply police students appearances.
What I think, but.
It seems like in that news report that we just played, one of the students are saying like social media is almost taking it a little too far because most of the people at their school, they don't even walk around and do rags and bonnets like those AI images have been showing, right?
So it's probably a small issue or a small percent of people that are like, you know what, today I'm wearing my do rags, today I'm wearing my bonnet.
Which, personally, I don't have a problem with.
I won't go outside in a du-rag or a bonnet.
That's just my thing.
But when I see people outside in a bonnet, I genuinely don't care.
I'm not like, why is she out here like that?
I don't care.
Because you're comfortable.
You're not here for me, especially in a school setting.
Look, my mom probably would be like, no bonnets.
But she also told me like, you're going to school to learn.
So if I'm going to school to learn, it don't matter what I'm doing in my hair.
It don't matter what I'm wearing.
I'm not focused on like looking my best.
So when you see these same people walking the streets or at Walmart with a bonnet on, you won't see them the same way in the club.
You won't see them the same way at a job interview.
So I don't think I don't think the new rule was what is it called?
It wasn't necessary, I feel like, especially if they don't feel like people are just doing it.
But I guess they want to uphold the standard and make sure people are.
not wearing bonnet to do rags, but I don't know.
It also plays into respectability politics.
And a lot of people brought that up too.
you
why
You know, we gotta we gotta not look like this.
We gotta not look like that and I'm trying to I'm trying to see if Bonnet's and do rags are getting a bad a bad rep because I'm sure we probably have seen some folks in the grocery store
And it sounds like not just the durag they were talking about, it sounds like they were talking about revealing clothing as well.
So I
Like they updated that dress code.
That's what it's looking like.
Because I don't think it was like a combination, but it's like this is also in the dress code because they mentioned pajamas and a few other things like slippers.
I doubt people were in
And so here's the thing.
I know I've definitely seen in high school today, we see kids wearing flip flops to school, pajamas to school to go to class.
Slides, you know what I mean?
In full uniform.
They'll be in full uniform with slides on.
And like, is that a big deal or is it not a big deal as a community?
Are we?
promoting bad examples.
And the other thing I did see Shannon, they were talking about the guys wearing good nice shirts and ties.
And it sounds like the young lady said, well, that's what we are already accustomed of seeing.
So I'm interested in, you know, where is this coming from?
What sparked it?
What provoked it?
I wonder if it could just be prevention because they see that a lot of high school students are going to class like that and they want to kind of lay the ground rules for them but I personally like I said earlier I don't see an issue with it just because like you said a lot of times like
If I'm going somewhere where I want to impress people, I will take the time to impress people.
If I sat at home and got in full glam like I would for an event or anything like that, I wouldn't make it to this radio show till I were late.
You know what I'm saying?
Like our hair, our makeup, we take a lot of care and a lot of time to do that.
So I just feel like certain...
certain places, I don't need to be worried about like what I look, what I'm wearing, all these things.
Like if I'm coming to school to learn, I'm coming to school to learn, I'm not here to impress y'all.
I understand if they had like, maybe these days, these are our days where we dress professional to practice those things.
But outside of that, as long as their grades are good, I don't think there's an issue.
And I know you brought up like high school students being in uniform and wearing slides, but to me in my eyes and what I'm thinking is like a lot of times,
We'll like come upon like some slides, which is a cheaper option of footwear, but they're they're trendy and they're cool So it's like, okay I could wear the slides with my uniform and I don't have to pay a couple hundred dollars to be wearing the trendy shoes You know what
I'm saying?
So it's like it's that way of
staying trendy but not breaking a bank or breaking a mama bank like a lot of kids they don't have the money or like the support to be wearing the newest shoe
But they like, you know what, them slides, that'll do.
I'll get through it if I wear these slides.
Because when I was younger, my mom, I'm like, I'm not paying $100 for these shoes.
I'm like, OK, but if I get them sandals that's popping right now, they cheaper.
I'm going to make it work.
So I feel like it's just one of those things where people have to be cognizant of other people's struggles and what they're trying to, you know.
know
Like we like our hair lay.
We like it a certain way.
A bonnet has become a little more acceptable.
Like, OK, she got her bonnet on whatever.
Not a big deal.
So if I was in high school during that time, maybe I would have wore a bonnet.
I don't know.
But I don't wear a bonnet just because I don't.
I'll put a hat on.
as we see right now.
When we come back, we'll be talking to Al on the other side of the commercial breaks.
What up y'all welcome back welcome back welcome back that was groovy man to the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth Ray Nitty and maybe Shannon this is the lunch break man the extended lunch Tell your supervisors it's gonna be a little bit longer You know you got by you need an hour and a half more to get through your lunch
That would make the work day so much more productive.
Paid, paid naps too.
Not just off-the-clock naps.
Shouts out to the chat once again.
The number to call is 833-212-1017 a couple quick comments in the chat Forgot about watch back Says so are we afraid of the police or just defensive the meter made flex?
I'm sorry, but That when I'm sorry, but that when I realized they think they're tough in disrespect The job ain't hard laws and rules
I have no idea what that's referring to.
So,
shout out
I'm doing quite well.
You know, should nobody have to tell you about a bonnet or a durag or a pyjamas.
You know, you're supposed to have some class and pride about yourself.
But unfortunately, for some of our people, they just take it away too far.
I don't want to see your bloom or vanities.
I don't want to see you in your drawers.
I don't want to see none of that.
Y'all just come, just come like you just say yes and then come outside.
Come
on
now.
It's too much.
I didn't know they don't have to dress like that.
Why would you even come outside looking like that?
I'm just going to come out here looking like I didn't wash my ass enough.
Like really?
Come on now, and he took you to a whole another level
I do get it, but sometimes I don't.
I'm not mad at some slides with the uniform.
I'm not mad at like a bonnet here and there, but when it's an everyday thing, it's like, okay, let's figure something out.
When it's like you said, you know, underwear is showing, you got a see-through, a pajama pants on.
It looked like you ain't even try a little bit.
Or a shower this morning.
But even then, slides aren't
normally a part of somebody's uniform.
It's some type of like dress code or tennis shoe or close tochu at least.
But obviously,
uniform.
And now you're going against the school rules.
So I know my kid's school got uniform policy.
But a lot of the kids wear crocs.
You know what I mean?
Now, I haven't seen no bonnets.
I ain't going to say I've seen no bonnets at.
Academy of Science.
Shout out to Academy of Science, man.
But I have seen Crocs.
And I think that's something to think of, Shannon, when you say, you know, these kids, some kids, some families can't afford the Jordans or the Balenciaga.
Balenciaga's in school is crazy to me.
And their ugly shoe, by the way.
But.
Every kid and like they're like, well, there's cheaper options.
Yeah, but them ain't it right now.
Better get you some.
People will read you you better not go to that school with no Hirachi's.
I'm crazy.
What's wrong with Rache's folks?
Absolutely nothing.
They ain't messing with them.
See y'all the y'all the parents that I had y'all kids getting ripped they'd be crying when y'all buying them Hirachi's they'd be like, oh, we need the Balenciaga or the Crocs first of all or nothing.
If it wasn't for Hiroshi's, there would be no Balenciaga's.
First of all.
First of all.
buy.
First and foremost, are you going to school with some bags on your feet or you
You you
No,
I buy you wearing them wands straight up.
No masses Man, I'm just saying though man.
I think I do think All jokes aside, I do think um
school, especially high school and middle school, it has turned too much into a fashion show when it's supposed to be about education.
And I feel like maybe that has something to do with the poor educational race in the city.
We too concerned about fashion and how the kids look versus the education that they actually supposed to be taking in.
Like, I loved when MPS proposed going to
a uniform for like the whole district.
Yeah, the whole NPS district.
And it was parents against it.
And I'm like, why can't we understand that is saving families so much money so they don't have to buy these expensive shirts and jeans and whatever that we invest so much money in as our black community with the $1.6 trillion buying power that we have.
Get you four or five polo shirts as a uniform and you straight.
You might need to grab a couple throughout the year because of wear and tear.
But the uniform saves so much money.
It saves so
So what do rags and bonnets are actually protecting?
Both are primarily hair protection tools, not just fashion.
Saddener silk material creates smooth, low friction surface.
So hair glides instead of catching, which is the main defense against frizz, tangling and breakage overnight.
Cotton pillow casings embedding, by contrast, absorb our moisture directly out of the hair for textured or curly.
coily hair, especially that moisture loss is what leads to dryness, breakage and split ends.
The durag bonnet barrier keeps that moisture locked in.
Durags additionally provide compression, which is what trains and holds those 360 waves
and
And then bonnets are generally roomier and better suited to be
to bigger styles like braids, locks, buns, while durags give a tighter, more compressive fit.
Both accomplish the same core job of reducing friction, instilling in moisture.
So those are our facts about durags.
And like you said, not always, if you're making a store run, you're going to take your durag or you're bonnet off.
Like it's like this ain't nowhere where I care.
And when people are berating people in public, I just think that's
completely outrageous.
Like, why are you at the airport looking like that?
I ain't going to the airport look like that, because in my head, it's like, you never know who you run into and I want to not be wanting to look good, walk through the airport.
But if I see somebody with a bonnet on or a drag, maybe they don't care who they see at this airport and they just trying to catch, they fight.
And they trying to preserve, preserve their hairstyle till they get to their destination.
And that's where they go and pop
up what when you hear these arguments about it what bothers me is a lot of times these arguments They're like well you you can't let people see see you like that or they won't respect you People was coming home for more and they in a soldier suits getting hung by a tree.
They don't care what you got on They don't need no reason to hate you or the less of you We black whatever you feel like doing do it.
That's I feel that's I'm like Hey, if you feel good in it
I'm not begging y'all for respect.
You know what I'm saying?
And on top of that, like you said, you don't know what you're trying to preserve under there.
Maybe my hair is late and I don't care what y'all think because where I fit a land, them people got out of care what they think about me.
They have 360 waves.
You got to have that ragtime in you, man, because that's how you train.
That's how you train them ways.
We got a couple of people on them in the chat.
Dame the name.
What up, Ray and Shannon Riverside in the chat.
East, east, east, east, east, east.
What up, Riverside, man?
the
Now, you know what?
I said I wasn't doing this today.
Let's stay on topic.
Back to the bonnets.
Back to the bonnets, right?
I do think it is a bigger conversation that could be had about presentation and
looking professional and maybe this is opportunity for somebody to make a more fashionable bonnet or do rag.
Maybe this is opportunity for a black entrepreneur to make something that takes care of our hair.
Because one thing I do know black people care about is their hair.
We take it extremely, extremely, extremely seriously.
That's why the hair industry is a billion dollar business, multi billion dollar industry.
And who are the number one consumers in the hair industry?
That's right.
Us.
So we care about hair.
Shannon, what you got before we go to break?
Man, I just want to make sure you guys go ahead and follow us on Facebook at the lunch break and give us a call when we come back at 833-212-1017.
If you guys have any questions, comments, concerns, want to join the conversation, you know, make sure y'all tap in.
But when we get back, we're going to get into another, I wouldn't even call it a hairy issue, right, right?
back.
It
felt like somebody was telling me to kind of take my shirt off.
A Janesville woman suing Waukesha County for violating her civil rights.
She says she was forced to remove her hijab for a booking photo, then had to wear that photo on her wrist.
TMJ4's Waukesha County reporter Rebecca Klove sat down with Lynn Tanner about why she is now suing.
What started as a traffic stop landed Lynn Tanner in the Waukesha County Jail.
The lifelong Muslim woman says once she got there, her religious rights were violated.
Lynn Tanner was pulled over by the Waukesha County Sheriff's Office while driving home from work on I-43 at the Racine Avenue exit.
She was charged with possession of THC, possession of drug paraphernalia and resisting or obstructing.
all misdemeanors.
She was taken to the Waukesha County Jail and booked.
Lin is a practicing muslim and wears the traditional headscarf called the hijab as part of her religion.
It's in front of men that I am more
modest.
I just choose to cover myself.
Lin says during the booking process at first her religion was respected.
A female officer was used when her hijab was removed and she was searched.
They also let her put her hijab back on, but then she was taken for a booking photo.
When I was told to remove my hijab, which has been a part
it felt like somebody was telling me to kind of take my shirt off and then to take a photograph of it and document
it for anyone to see.
I checked.
That is a written policy by the Waukesha County Jail stating the photo will be taken in the presence of a female correctional staff member.
Milwaukee County has a different policy.
It takes two photographs, one with a religious head covering on.
one without one.
That second photograph is kept restricted from the public view.
That is not what happens in Waukesha County, which is why her attorney says they filed a federal lawsuit.
The photograph was taken and then you know.
put onto their system where male officers could see it.
It was printed on her wristband, which she was wearing in the jail when she was there, and male officers could see that as well.
That policy in and of itself is a violation of the First Amendment.
I don't think I'm the first person that this
has happened to, and I don't think it's right.
I don't.
We did reach out to Waukesha County about the lawsuit, and they said they don't comment on pending litigation, but they did provide their jail policy.
In Waukesha,
Rebecca Klopp.
All
right, all right,
Welcome.
It sound like they said Milwaukee County has a different policy where they take two pictures.
One where they remove it and it's a more private process and they keep that private, right?
And then the other one is where she would be able to keep her
the job on.
I hope I'm saying that right.
And then they would use that one.
You know what I'm saying?
And for
the public.
Ray?
I'm doing fantastic.
Good work, by the way, as I am an avid fan of your show and your community, your building.
I'm really happy to see you on the radio.
You know, you've always been a wise one.
I'm so glad to see you.
You have an opportunity to share that knowledge with your team.
So thanks for creating that space.
Yeah, you know, I think this this is a very important case in terms of standardized and just the way The government treats its people across communities
across fates and ensuring that that treatment is always equal and that it's respected because at the end of the day, even when dealing with law enforcement, there's still a certain level of dignity that we require and they were guaranteed by the Constitution and when that isn't being upheld, you know, it's our job to ensure
the same ground is evened.
And so that's what this case really is about.
You know, especially in a community as diverse as ours, you know, Wisconsin and Milwaukee and in a southeast Wisconsin area, you know, it's full of Muslims.
You know, we have people of different faiths, different backgrounds, black people, different races.
And so, you know,
and keep in with what Martin Luther King says, right, you know, and just as any, and just as any was effective justice everywhere, we have to ensure that across the diversity and across the rights and beliefs that we have, that, you know, these things have been respected.
So there's no beyond just a religious garment here.
It goes to affirming the things that we hold dear and things that are important to us.
So,
We have people on YouTube and so forth, right?
And we try to make sure people are educated.
We try to make sure people are educated on what is actually going on and not just making assumptions, right?
And I want you to respond to this comment where somebody says, you lose your rights once you're arrested.
Is that a true statement to...
to be saying in this situation like this.
Rick,
could you please
cut off a little bit.
I think not only is that a false narrative, I think that's a dangerous narrative, right?
Because the Constitution says, number one, when you're arrested, you're innocent until proven guilty.
And even if you are, there are certain constitutional rights that you still have.
One of them still remains your first amendment right, your right to practice your religion, your right to speech.
Fourth amendment rights protect your rights through illegal searches and seizures.
It ensures that the government provides you with due process, right?
These are all rights, the rights to counsel.
So you don't lose rights just because the government accuses your requirement because you're arrested.
And I think that acceptance or that misinformation sometimes leads to lessens the standards of what we expect when arrested by law enforcement.
Those rights are important and those rights have to be protected.
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But once the kids leave off that door, whatever have you, they make their own decisions.
I don't care if you 9 or 99.
It's still your decision about the situations that you get involved yourself in.
Look into their taxes.
Look into this.
We talking about elected officials doing backdoor deals and somehow she still want to blame immigrants.
That's what we talking about right now.
We following the money and you still want to blame black people and immigrants and welfare and all of these things for policies and backdoor deals that put poor people in worse position.
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We got a we got a pretty interesting day.
Yesterday was pretty dope.
Yesterday was a pretty pretty dope show.
We talked about the debate.
We talked about some candidates.
We talked about a hater.
We showed some receipts.
Can you feel me?
Wisconsin Jay, welcome back.
Welcome back.
Man, you know, we had a good time yesterday, man.
I think if I'm being honest, like.
We're gonna talk
some
politics today, but politics could be exhausting sometimes, man.
Politics could
be
And I know we're supposed to make sure we're informing our listeners on the important things that are going on, and we will continue to do so.
We will continue to do so, but we will continue to do so with respect for everyone's opinions, and we just want everybody to respect ours as well.
But today,
There won't be too much politics on the menu Shannon.
I'm gonna give them a rundown of the show today.
So you brought something up to my attention about Tuskegee banning do rags and bonnets In classrooms was it or or just on campus period
Shannon got some force on that.
Then we want to talk about a Milwaukee man's lengthy sentence.
This brother got over a hundred years for some heinous crimes.
We're going to talk to we're going to just shed some light on that as well.
And then we want to circle back to some things we didn't get to yesterday.
We wanted to talk about the food.
I know we mentioned the food that our toddlers are taking in.
But we want to talk about that and the nutritional impact that it's having on our younger generation.
And then we also want to talk about the unseen toxic sites.
I got a little bit of receipts on the unseen toxic sites that has, you know, been plaguing our city for so long.
I know we talked about it.
a little bit before.
We got some folks in the chat today already, man.
Shots out like Jasmine West,
They like when we talk about mess and show receipts.
Shots out to Reginald Jones in the chat as well, said, can't stay long, but wish you both well.
Man, appreciate it, man.
Thank you for even spending a minute or two with the Lunch Break crew, man.
DJ Brother Z, how you feeling, man?
Shots out to DJ Brother Z, holding us down with the production and sound.
Man,
You know what I'm talking about?
But on a more serious note, the community lost a very important member.
I would like to say prayers to Marcy and her family, Marcy Patterson, that passed away.
She was an amazing community member and the community lost a real gem.
So we want to keep her families in our prayers as we mourn the loss of a very, very powerful community member.
So.
If you got any stories you want to share about Marcy, please call in as well.
833-212-1017.
We want to, you know, uplift our community and give people their flowers.
So if you have any stories you'd like to share, please call in.
Then we thought we was going to have a guest today.
We thought we was going to have a guest today, but maybe it's good for tomorrow as well.
It'll be even better tomorrow.
Tomorrow, we will have Larry Sanders live in studio.
So, Shannon, he was on day one with us if I'm not mistaken, correct?
Everybody love lunch.
That's what I'm talking about.
Favorite meal of the day.
Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
I know that's correct.
Yeah, bro.
Bro would be here talking, chill out.
Bro would be here talking about a bunch of few different things.
He has an event coming up as well.
So he'll be sharing that.
He'll be talking about things that he'll be doing in the city of Milwaukee as well and bringing back to the city.
Reginald said.
DJ Brother Z, you peeped them basses we spoke about.
Once you hold on, once you hold on, Alan Bick, you're gonna find yourself in divorce.
What's going on?
What are you talking about
Z?
Talking about a bass guitar.
Sierra.
back.
I'm
I drove three blocks from my house and realized I forgot my car at home.
I'm not dealing with Guru today.
And his silliness.
I'm not dealing with it today.
Man, what else I'm
doing
this weekend, Shannon?
So I actually
have a performance
tonight.
I got a performance tonight, not tonight.
See, my days is all over, but I got a performance on Saturday for our lodge.
It is our lodge anniversary fundraiser at summer 85 and that's going to be from two to five.
I got tickets if you want to join too.
So I got a busy Saturday from the morning.
We walk in running.
I'm going to be mostly walking.
Then I'm going to be popping into Larry Sanders event.
It's clothing release, her loss release.
And then we got the King David show.
For the King David Lodge, it's summer of 85.
I'll be performing.
D'Shea will be performing.
And then I'm going down to Black Arts Fest MKE.
I got to see Dave Hollister.
I got to see it.
He said he go on at like nine, nine, nine, 30.
Ours wrap up at nine.
So I'm rush out the door and head down there, man.
Leave me alone.
That's what I'm trying to do.
You feel me?
But don't go anywhere,
I hope I make it through.
And I still got a fine time to campaign.
You feel what I'm saying?
But once again, don't go anywhere.
We're about to take a quick break and then we'll be back.
We're going to be talking about the Duel Rag and Bonnet Band.
Uh, that was just issue that Tuskegee College, a SBCU by the way.
So don't go anywhere.
You'll be right back on the lunch break with Ray Nitty and maybe Shannon.
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Flight.
It's
a no-do rags to class or the cafeteria.
That's only some of the updated dress code policy at Tuskegee University.
The announcement has taken social media by storm with opinions split over whether the rules are appropriate or an overreach.
Kailen Parham 2022 Tuskegee Grant says the discourse has been shocking.
So when I'm seeing it blowing up all over the Internet and the shave room and every which way I'm like
wait.
What's going on here?
Y'all talk about my school.
The updated policy also requires students to wear business attire for business meetings and to avoid revealing clothing in class, the cafeteria and convocation.
Parham says this has always been the norm.
That was normal to
see our men walking around with suits or a nice, you know, shirt and tie.
Ladies all dressed up even if they weren't going anywhere.
It was just normal.
The main debate on social media surrounds wearing do rags and bonnets in public.
Parm agrees with the university's message, but says the reaction on social media has gone too far.
I've never seen anybody walking
around with a body.
on at school outside of the dorm.
I've seen some very distasteful like A.I.
images of students and they're showing us on campus with bondage to do rags.
It's all fake, fake news.
It was never about bondage to do rags.
I asked her when she thinks the switch happened after COVID.
You don't know what anybody's wearing to class because it's just a bunch of black screens on your computer.
And with all the added attention, she worries incoming freshmen may be left with a bad taste in their mouth.
But not for Tia Bird.
Despite her classmates' hesitancy, she says she sees the purpose.
It's our home away from home.
So
the part where it's being enforced in like dining halls and areas that they see is kind of like our kitchen.
I kind of see the pushback from that.
But of course, like being preparing, being prepared for our professional
careers, I see the purpose.
You should present yourself in the best way possible.
And a lot of that has to do with parents.
What up y'all
So as we see the like I'm just gonna reiterate what happened pretty much so the university president Said that the goal is to repair students for professional environments and help build habits that will benefit them after graduation According to the university the policy is intended to reinforce professionalism rather than restrict restrict students The announcement it did spark widespread debate right online like they were talking about pretty much supporters argue that HBC
the US have a long tradition of emphasizing professionalism and high standards.
While critics say that the policy reflects respectability politics and unfairly targets forms of black hair care and cultural expression.
The discussion has spread across social media with many questions, whether dress codes improve academic success or simply police students appearances.
What I think, but.
It seems like in that news report that we just played, one of the students are saying like social media is almost taking it a little too far because most of the people at their school, they don't even walk around and do rags and bonnets like those AI images have been showing, right?
So it's probably a small issue or a small percent of people that are like, you know what, today I'm wearing my do rags, today I'm wearing my bonnet.
Which, personally, I don't have a problem with.
I won't go outside in a du-rag or a bonnet.
That's just my thing.
But when I see people outside in a bonnet, I genuinely don't care.
I'm not like, why is she out here like that?
I don't care.
Because you're comfortable.
You're not here for me, especially in a school setting.
Look, my mom probably would be like, no bonnets.
But she also told me like, you're going to school to learn.
So if I'm going to school to learn, it don't matter what I'm doing in my hair.
It don't matter what I'm wearing.
I'm not focused on like looking my best.
So when you see these same people walking the streets or at Walmart with a bonnet on, you won't see them the same way in the club.
You won't see them the same way at a job interview.
So I don't think I don't think the new rule was what is it called?
It wasn't necessary, I feel like, especially if they don't feel like people are just doing it.
But I guess they want to uphold the standard and make sure people are.
not wearing bonnet to do rags, but I don't know.
It also plays into respectability politics.
And a lot of people brought that up too.
you
why
You know, we gotta we gotta not look like this.
We gotta not look like that and I'm trying to I'm trying to see if Bonnet's and do rags are getting a bad a bad rep because I'm sure we probably have seen some folks in the grocery store
And it sounds like not just the durag they were talking about, it sounds like they were talking about revealing clothing as well.
So I
Like they updated that dress code.
That's what it's looking like.
Because I don't think it was like a combination, but it's like this is also in the dress code because they mentioned pajamas and a few other things like slippers.
Oh yeah, they definitely said like no
class,
In full uniform, they'll be in full uniform with slides on.
And like, is that a big deal or is it not a big deal as a community, are we?
promoting bad examples.
And the other thing I did see Shannon, they were talking about the guys wearing good nice shirts and ties.
And it sounds like the young lady said, well, that's what we are already accustomed of seeing.
So I'm interested in, you know, where is this coming from?
What sparked it?
What provoked it?
I wonder if it could just be prevention because they see that a lot of high school students are going to class like that and they want to kind of lay the ground rules for them but I personally like I said earlier I don't see an issue with it just because like you said a lot of times like
If I'm going somewhere where I want to impress people, I will take the time to impress people.
If I sat at home and got in full glam like I would for an event or anything like that, I wouldn't make it to this radio show till I were late.
You know what I'm saying?
Like our hair, our makeup, we take a lot of care and a lot of time to do that.
So I just feel like certain...
certain places, I don't need to be worried about like what I look, what I'm wearing, all these things.
Like if I'm coming to school to learn, I'm coming to school to learn, I'm not here to impress y'all.
I understand if they had like, maybe these days, these are our days where we dress professional to practice those things.
But outside of that, as long as their grades are good, I don't think there's an issue.
And I know you brought up like high school students being in uniform and wearing slides, but to me in my eyes, and what I'm thinking is like a lot of times,
We'll like come upon like some slides, which is a cheaper option of footwear, but they're they're trendy and they're cool So it's like, okay I could wear the slides with my uniform and I don't have to pay a couple hundred dollars to be wearing the trendy shoes You know what I'm saying?
So it's like it's that way of
being trendy but not breaking a bank or breaking a mama bank like a lot of kids They don't have the money or like the support to be wearing the newest shoe
But they like, you know what, them slides, that'll do.
I'll get through it if I wear these slides.
Because when I was younger and my mom, I'm like, I'm not paying $100 for these shoes.
I'm like, OK, but if I get them sandals that's popping right now, they cheaper.
I'm going to make it work.
So I feel like it's just one of those things where people have to be cognizant of other people's struggles and what they're trying to, you know.
genuinely
So either you going to get this bonnet when I'm going to school or I'm not coming.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we like our hair lay.
We like it a certain way.
A bonnet has become a little more acceptable.
Like, OK, she got her bonnet on whatever.
Not a big deal.
So if I was in high school during that time, maybe I would have wore a bonnet.
I don't know.
But I don't wear a bonnet just because I don't.
I'll put a hat on.
as we see right now.
breaks.
What up y'all welcome back welcome back welcome back that was groovy man to the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth Ray nitty and maybe Shannon this is the lunch break man the extended lunch Tell your supervisors.
It's gonna be a little bit longer You know you got by you need an hour and a half more to get through your lunch
Shouts out to the chat once again the number to call is 833-212-1017 a couple quick comments in the chat forgot about Watch back Says so are we afraid of the police or just defensive the meter made flex?
I'm sorry, but That when I'm sorry, but that when I realized they think they're tough in disrespect The job ain't hard laws and rules
I have no idea what that's referring
to.
shout out
I'm doing quite well.
You know, should nobody have to tell you about a bonnet or a du-rag or a pyjamas.
You know, you're supposed to have some class and pride about yourself.
But unfortunately, for some of our people, they just take it away too far.
I don't want to see your bloom revenge.
I don't want to see you in your drawers.
I don't want to see none of that.
Y'all just come, just come, like you just say yes, and they come outside.
Come
on
now.
It's too much.
I didn't know they don't have to dress like that.
Why would you even come outside looking like that?
I'm just gonna come out here looking like I didn't wash my ass enough.
Like really?
Come on now, and they take you to a whole another level
trying
I do get it, but sometimes like I don't.
I'm not mad at some slides with the uniform.
I'm not mad at like a bonnet here and there, but when it's the everyday thing, it's like, okay, let's figure something out.
When it's like you said, you know, underwear is showing, you got a see-through, a pajama pants on.
It looked like you ain't even try a little bit or a shower this morning.
But even then, slides aren't normally a part of somebody's uniform.
It's some type of like dress code or tennis shoe or close tochu at least.
But obviously, hella crocs.
But what I'm saying
But they're technically not in uniform.
And now you're going against the school rules.
So I know my kid's school got uniform policy.
But a lot of the kids wear crocs.
You know what I mean?
Now, I haven't seen no bonnets.
I ain't going to say I've seen no bonnets at.
Academy of Science.
Shout out to Academy of Science, man.
But I have seen Crocs.
And I think that's something to think of, Shannon, when you say, you know, these kids, some kids, some families can't afford the Jordans or the Balenciagas.
Balenciagas in school is crazy to me.
And they're an ugly shoe, by the way.
But.
better get you some
first of all or
If it wasn't for Hiroshi's, there would be no Balenciaga's.
First of all.
First of all.
First and foremost.
Are you going to school with some?
Bags on your feet or you get about a
you you wear no thanks,
wearing
I think I do think
All jokes aside, I do think school, especially high school and middle school, it has turned too much into a fashion show when it's supposed to be about education.
And I feel like maybe that has something to do with the poor educational race in the city.
We too concerned about fashion and how the kids look versus the education that they actually supposed to be taking in.
Like, I loved when NPS proposed
going to uniform for like the whole district.
Yeah, the whole NPS district.
And it was parents against it.
And I'm like, why can't we understand that is saving families so much money so they don't have to buy these expensive shirts and jeans and whatever that we invest so much money in as our black community with the $1.6 trillion buying power that we have.
Get you four or five polo shirts as a uniform and you straight.
You might need to grab a couple throughout the year because of wear and tear.
But the uniform saves so much money.
It saves so
So what do rags and bonnets are actually protecting?
Both are primarily hair protection tools, not just fashion.
Satin or silk material creates smooth, low friction surface.
So hair glides instead of catching, which is the main defense against frizz, tangling and breakage overnight.
Cotton pillowcases embedding, by contrast, absorb our moisture directly out of the hair for textured or curled
coily hair, especially that moisture loss is what leads to dryness, breakage, and split ends.
The durag bonnet barrier keeps that moisture locked in.
Durags additionally provide compression, which is what trains and holds those 360 waves
and
And then bonnets are generally roomier and better suited to
to bigger styles like braids, locks, buns, while durags give a tighter, more compressive fit.
Both accomplish the same core job of reducing friction, insulating moisture.
So those are our facts about durags.
And like you said, not always, if you're making a store run, you're going to take your durag or you'll bond it off.
Like it's like this ain't nowhere where I care.
And when people are berating people in public, I just think that's
completely outrageous.
Like, why are you at the airport looking like that?
I ain't going to the airport look like that because in my head, it's like, you never know who you run into and I wanna be one that look good, walk through the airport.
But if I see somebody with a bonnet on or a drag, maybe they don't care who they see at this airport and they just trying to catch, they fight.
And they trying to preserve, preserve their hairstyle till they get to their destination and that's where they gonna pop
up what when you hear these arguments about it what bothers me is a lot of times these arguments They're like well you you can't let people see see you like that or they won't respect you People was coming home for more and they in a soldier suits getting hung by a tree.
They don't care what you got on They don't need no reason to hate you or the less of you We black whatever you feel like doing
I'm not begging y'all for respect.
You know what I'm saying?
And on top of that, like you said, you don't know what you're trying to preserve under there.
Maybe my hair is late and I don't care what y'all think, because where I fit a land, them people got out of care what they think about me.
They have 360 waves.
You got to have that ragtime in, man, because that's how you train.
That's how you train them waves.
We got a couple of people in the chat.
Dame the name.
What up, Ray and Shannon Riverside in the chat.
East, East, East, East, East, East.
What up, Riverside, man?
Now, you know what?
I said I wasn't doing this today.
Let's stay on topic.
Back to the bonnets.
Back to the bonnets, right?
I do think it is a bigger conversation that could be had about presentation and.
Looking professional and maybe this is opportunity for somebody to make a more fashionable bonnet or do rag.
Maybe this is opportunity for a black entrepreneur to make something that takes care of our hair.
Because one thing I do know black people care about is their hair.
We take it extremely, extremely, extremely seriously.
That's why the hair industry is a billion dollar business, multi billion dollar industry.
And who are the number one consumers in the hair industry?
That's right.
Us.
So we care about hair.
Shannon, what you got before we go to break?
Man, I just want to make sure you guys go ahead and follow us on Facebook at the lunch break and give us a call when we come back at 833-212-1017.
If you guys have any questions, comments, concerns, want to join the conversation, you know, make sure y'all tap in.
But when we get back, we're going to get into another, I wouldn't even call it a hairy issue, right, right?
back.
It
felt like somebody was telling me to kind of take my shirt off.
A Janesville woman suing Waukesha County for violating her civil rights.
She says she was forced to remove her hijab for a booking photo, then had to wear that photo on her wrist.
TMJ4's Waukesha County reporter Rebecca Klove sat down with Lynn Tanner about why she is now suing.
What started as a traffic stop landed Lynn Tanner in the Waukesha County Jail.
The lifelong Muslim woman says once she got there, her religious rights were violated.
Lynn Tanner was pulled over by the Waukesha County Sheriff's Office while driving home from work on I-43 at the Racine Avenue exit.
She was charged with possession of THC, possession of drug paraphernalia and resisting or obstructing.
all misdemeanors.
She was taken to the Waukesha County Jail and booked.
Lin is a practicing muslim and wears the traditional headscarf called the hijab as part of her religion.
It's in front of men that I am more modest.
I just choose to cover myself.
Lin says
during the booking process at first her religion was respected.
A female officer was used when her hijab was removed and she was searched.
They also let her put her hijab back on, but then she was taken for a booking photo.
When I was told to remove my hijab, which has been a part.
part of my, um, attire, my it felt like somebody to kind of take my shirt of it and document it fo that
is a written policy the photo will be taken of a female correctional County has a different po two photographs, one with
one without one.
That second photograph is kept restricted from the public view.
That is not what happens in Waukesha County, which is why her attorney says they filed a federal lawsuit.
The photograph was taken and then you know.
put onto their system where male officers could see it.
It was printed on her wristband, which she was wearing in the jail when she was there, and male officers could see that as well.
That policy in and of itself is a violation of the First Amendment.
I don't think I'm the first person that this
has happened to, and I don't think it's right.
I don't.
We did reach out to Waukesha County about the lawsuit, and they said they don't comment on pending litigation, but they did provide their jail policy.
In Waukesha,
Rebecca Klopp.
All
right, all right,
Welcome,
It sound like they said Milwaukee County has a different policy where they take two pictures.
One where they remove it and it's a more private process and they keep that private, right?
And then the other one is where she would be able to keep her
the job on.
I hope I'm saying that right.
And then they would use that one.
You know what I'm saying?
And for
Ray?
I'm doing fantastic.
Good work, by the way, as I am an avid fan of your show and your community, your building.
I'm really happy to see you on the radio.
You know, you've always been a wise one.
I'm so glad to see you.
You have an opportunity to share that knowledge with your team.
So thanks for creating that space.
Yeah, you know, I think this this is a very important case in terms of standardized and just the way The government treats its people across communities
across fates and ensuring that that treatment is always equal and that it's respected because at the end of the day, even when dealing with law enforcement, there's still a certain level of dignity that we require and they were guaranteed by the Constitution and when that isn't being upheld, you know, it's our job to ensure
that the same ground is evened.
And so that's what this case really is about.
You know, especially in a community as diverse as ours, you know, Wisconsin and Milwaukee and in a southeast Wisconsin area, you know, it's full of Muslims.
You know, we have people of different faiths, different backgrounds, black people, different races.
And so, you know,
in keeping with what Martin Luther King says, right, you know, and just as a threat to injustice and it was a threat to justice everywhere, we have to ensure that across the diversity and across the rights and beliefs that we have, that, you know, these things have been respected.
So there's no beyond just a religious garment here.
It goes to affirming the things that we hold dear and things that are important to us.
So.
We have people on YouTube and so forth, right?
And we try to make sure people are educated.
We try to make sure people are educated on what is actually going on and not just making assumptions, right?
And I want you to respond to this comment where somebody says, you lose your rights once you're arrested.
Is that a true statement to...
to be saying in this situation like this.
Rick, could you please briefly
question?
You cut off a little bit.
I think not only is that a false narrative, I think that's a dangerous narrative, right?
Because the Constitution says, number one, when you're arrested, you're innocent until proven guilty.
And even if
you are, there are certain constitutional rights that you still have.
One of them still remains your first amendment right, your right to practice your religion, your right to speech.
Fourth amendment rights protect your rights through illegal searches and seizures.
It ensures that the government provides you with due process, right?
These are all rights, the rights to counsel.
So you don't lose rights just because the government accuses your requirement because you're arrested.
And I think that acceptance or that misinformation sometimes leads to lessens the standards of what we expect when arrested by law enforcement.
Those rights are important and those rights have to be protected.
Man,
a minute before