Jim Schmitt sits down with Mark Becker for a casual, wide-ranging conversation about work, politics, and the paths people take to create change.

The discussion covers what each of them is focused on professionally, the issues they care most about in politics, and how they think progress actually happens—on the ground, over time, and through sustained effort. Rather than diving into policy specifics, the episode centers on motivation, values, and the realities of getting from ideas to action.

It’s an informal but thoughtful exchange about where things stand today and where they’re trying to go next.