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Well, somehow we came in early today for our afternoon shift, and here we are.

It's just

a force of habit.

Yeah.

Yikes.

Yeah.

Happy Monday.

Yeah.

Well, it's not so happy

Monday.

Wow.

So much

news.

Bad news, really horrific news.

You know, so many shootings that are going on.

I mean, basically, I think there were two, three shootings.

Now, should we go to the first one, which is the stabbing?

Do we want to cover that first here?

Yeah, if you haven't heard news from overnight in Los Angeles, Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle, were found stabbed to death in their home in Los

Angeles

in Brentwood neighborhood.

And that's been breaking news overnight.

Of course, Rob Reiner, son of Carl Reiner, and known for playing Michael Stivick and all in the family.

I mean, everybody's seen

his promos for Spinal Tap 2.

Right.

Yeah, which just, you know, came

out a month ago.

He's

all over the place with that.

Right.

Really, really promoting it.

And it's just hard to believe that he jet.

He's not going to be here to enjoy all of this.

And I mean, what a tragedy.

You know, I saw an email.

Well, I saw a text.

Not a text.

I'm sorry.

X last night.

And they were just speculating and saying two people were found dead in a property owned by and and it just seemed like, you know, maybe somebody was staying there.

And then, you know, now this news that it was Rob Reiner and his wife.

Yeah.

And his wife apparently pretty well known as a photographer and a political activist.

So they were both found murdered, stabbed to death overnight by a family member and the police are doing the investigation.

And we'll keep an eye on that, but man, it's just so sad.

And

then in Australia, the Bondi...

massacre took place

and beach.

It's

Bondi or Bondi Beach.

And the thing is two Middle Eastern men came to the rescue.

Yeah.

And stopped the shooters.

Right.

And these are immigrants, not legal.

Well, with minor passports.

not long stay passports.

Anyway, these people actually saved all these people's lives.

And it was so, and it was so confusing too.

A lot of people didn't know that these were the guys that actually saved everybody else.

They didn't know whether they were the shooters or

right.

And it was ma'am down there.

But you know, it's just a stunning turn of events.

And the video is

quite.

Oh, it's

just unbelievable, isn't it?

I know one of the one of the

People that stopped the shooting was also injured,

too.

Yeah.

Is that the first

guy that tackled a guy?

I think so.

Because I saw him scurrying away or trying to get away because he was being shot at, too, because the police didn't know he was not the shooter.

Right.

And I don't know if he was shot.

I didn't see any injury reports for that.

Very confusing,

yeah.

And now they're wondering, well, should they allow them to be...

In Australia in the first place, you know or just reward them for coming to the rescue for everybody else in Australia So

and then there's a Brown University shoot.

Yes

And now they've released that that person of interest.

Yeah, so that investigation continues.

Yeah, it's just a horrible horrible news weekend and Yeah

Why don't we go to the phones?

Matt is online here from Middleton.

Matt, good morning.

Good

morning, guys.

Tough weekend.

Yeah,

yeah.

Packers tried hard and then again we get injured and I worry for our season now.

I'm just kind of wondering, do you think that's a coaching issue?

I know when you look at fighting and fighters have coaches and when coaches

over train their fighters?

Are they spar too much?

The fighters aren't ready for the real match and there's more injuries than you should get.

Do you think that's something in football?

I was just kind of wondering that.

We tend to get injured so much and other teams seem to do better with that.

Well, I don't know about that, but I know as the season goes on, now we're getting toward the tail end of the season, these injuries really start to pop up.

And I

think a lot of it is just the wear and tear in the earlier part of the season, but Micah Parsons now apparently out for the season with the Torna ACL and Kansas City Chiefs and my homes.

And where did the Broncos come from?

I know.

They look like a player.

Super Bowl team.

They've won 11 in a

row.

Have they really?

Yeah.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Yeah.

I think they just over... But about Rob Reiner, I saw that they think his son killed them.

Well, it's all speculation at this point.

Yeah.

We don't know.

I mean, we don't know what we don't know.

Holy mackerel.

Wow.

Gosh, yeah.

What a sad thing in these other shootings.

I often wonder if it's the internet that is making people in the world more insecure and kind of emotionally, a lot of mental problems spreading, or if you think, where we always like

this.

No.

I blame vaccines for it.

No.

You know, it's just so unusual to see a weekend packed like this with just tragedy, right?

Well, yeah.

And the news...

Can we just go home?

I don't want to be here reporting this stuff.

No.

But the news cycle never ends.

It's just 24-7 now, all the time.

Seven days a week, 365.

And so, yeah, is there more bad news?

Yeah, because we're covering it all the time.

And it does seem to... It's just overwhelming.

Yeah, I did hear some good news on the way in listening to a public radio and there seemed to be a Republican trying to negotiate, you know with the middle Republicans a passage for the tax breaks for the ACA.

He says that and I'm encouraged by people when they talk like that.

He says that the the American public shouldn't be penalized for something

Republicans in Congress can't accomplish.

So they want to pass an extension of the tax cuts, at least that for a little while.

And then start talking about the alternatives, okay?

So

that, you know, I was really encouraged with that.

And he says that they actually have the votes to pass this thing.

But Mike Johnson won't put it to the floor.

And

then of course the Democrats aren't on board with it.

I don't know why You know, but anyway, the Republicans very very positive about at least trying to extend it so they're the again there the American public is not penalized by the incompetence of the Republicans in Congress and I'm just encouraged by that

alone.

Oh good.

Maybe there's a ray of hope that's right in there.

Yeah, yeah, but yeah

You know, Mike Johnson is just, I mean, he's just a mouthpiece for Trump.

He's totally all in.

Wow, all in.

You know.

And the thing is, he makes me very angry because when I see the facial expressions on that guy, very calm, very peaceful, and he's really grotesquely mean-spirited.

You know, it's just, that's a...

Christian nationalists, that's what they're all about.

They're very peaceful and very content with, I guess, foisting off their anger and bitterness and religion off on everybody else, even if they have to suffer for it.

Well, anyway,

that's

where

I'm

standing.

I'm gonna curl up in the corner now, as I always do at this point in the show.

This weekend, I also didn't have the best news.

more personally.

What happened?

Well, I was putting in some windshield wiper fluid on Friday, and then I put the big bucket of windshield washer fluid in my back seat.

On

the

seat?

On the seat, because I don't know why.

And I left the cap on the floor.

I don't know why I didn't.

Where's the trunk?

I left the cap open a little.

And it spilled all the way, spilled all on the ground in my car.

And I have to figure that out.

On the seats?

On the seats.

On the floor.

On the placemats and

all that stuff.

That's

awful.

It's just bad news.

Yeah, that is bad news.

Oh boy.

Well, that's just great.

We're off to a wonderful start, aren't we?

It smells nice in your car for a while.

That's true.

Clean.

There's always a bright side.

We're going to talk to Pam Yonkey in a few minutes, get an update from her, and a little bit later on, three-time Madison Mayor Paul Soglin will join us.

And we have some special guests talking about the mural, right, on the east side.

Ribbon cutting, yeah.

Yeah.

And we'll find out all about that as the day goes on.

Yeah,

there's bird flu detected in Dodge County.

Oh boy.

Yeah.

Now, I don't know if it's bird flu or some other flu.

It's H5N1.

It is affected the dairy herd.

Okay.

So I believe it's, we'll have to ask Pam about all

that.

Yeah, but she

has some insight on that.

I think it's

transmittable to, you know, all sorts of animals.

Now, Catherine is on the phone this morning.

Good morning, Catherine.

Go ahead.

Oh, it's not a good morning.

No, it's not at all.

I'm gonna go home with John and I'm gonna call the bed with his wife and him and call it a day.

All right.

Well, no.

I've been sick all weekend in the shootings and then Rob Reiner, when my alarm goes off at six this morning, I'm gonna go back to bed.

I'm

done.

Yeah.

This is ridiculous.

And here's, I wanted to talk about fun things.

I saw the movie about the aliens that Gordy recommended

and I wanted

to talk about

that.

The Age of Disclosure, yes.

Yeah, that's like.

Good news.

That's fun.

I forgot about that.

Age of disclosure.

Yeah, you're going to watch that.

Oh, you gotta see it.

You gotta see it.

It's really good.

We

are not alone, John.

We are definitely

not alone.

Well, I'm glad, man.

We need somebody to replace the Republicans.

They're going to save us all.

The aliens are going to come up from the ocean and save us all.

Oh, yeah.

OK.

All right.

Well,

we'll all

get

through this together.

Well, there is good news, too.

Yeah.

OK.

I mean, we have good news.

We have a warming.

Going on today.

It's going to be in the mid 20s today and

then tomorrow.

It's going to be in the mid 30s So finally

finally get out of there doing pretty freeze.

Why am

I saying this this guy

right here?

Well, I was just about to do it, but that's fine.

You did an excellent job.

Okay.

Well, thank you You know learned a lot, you know just sitting next to me about the weather 35 tomorrow, but yeah,

almost

Okay.

About 34 degrees.

Who's splitting hairs?

I hate

to be so exact.

Wow.

There, there are, there is one, I'm not gonna name any names, but there's one local meteorologist who's very much tap dancing all the time.

It's about this, and maybe it might just, maybe not.

It's very unsure of his predictions.

Just backing away from everything.

I gotta watch that guy.

That would be fun.

Yeah, really.

And I think it's like a Saturday night live bit.

He can't make up his mind about anything.

Oh, that's great stuff.

All right.

Pam Yankee is right around the corner from the Midwest Food and Farm Report.

We'll get an update from her and much more.

Just get started on a Monday morning.

It's John and Gordy.

Stay with us.

good with this morning.

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John and Gordy in the morning.

22 minutes past the hour.

Eight degrees to start things out, but we'll get into the low to mid 20s later.

Cloudy skies through much of the day today.

And Pam Yackey is joining us this morning, as she always does on Monday and Friday mornings.

Good morning, Pam.

Morning, guys.

How are we doing?

Good.

We're hanging in there.

Yeah.

How was your weekend?

You know.

sheltered.

I didn't want to vent out too much with the way the temperatures were, although at least the winds weren't as strong as I was expecting.

I guess that's coming later this week, they say.

Oh yeah, yeah, but it'll be warmer.

So yeah, I'm glad the winds were kind of tappin'.

No.

Yeah.

Well, let's get to what's going on here in Wisconsin when it comes to the H5N1.

Now, is that the burnt flu?

Yeah, okay.

So yeah, yeah,

and it's infected the dairy herd in Dodge County

Right, right.

So it seldom I can't remember in my career Department of Ag ever having a Sunday press conference But they did yesterday because they wanted people to know what was going on.

So here's the here's the story They found a dairy animal in a Dodge County dairy

that tested positive for H5N1.

Now here's the part that I'm going to be following this week.

They are going to do genomics sequencing on this virus.

This dairy herd had been tested five previous times, last time in October and was always clean.

The farmer, the field representative for the dairy company and the dairy processor have all been just fantastic as far as being proactive with this.

So this farm is familiar with the testing protocol and had been clean.

Like I said, all the way up to this, the other part that gets me about this is these are cows that are in a barn.

It's not like they're outside exposed to birds.

So that one kind of catches you by surprise.

And like I said, it's called a closed herd, which means there's no animals moving on or off that farm.

There's no

None of that kind of transportation issues.

So now, like I said, we'll sequence the genome and find out if it's bird related.

How did this come out?

Is this a different virus than what we've seen?

Consumers don't have a thing to worry about.

Wisconsin took a lot of time and care putting together a testing program when USDA mandated nationally that states were going to have to come up with plan to monitor this.

Wisconsin said, wait a minute.

We're a lot more complicated than everybody else.

We've got over 5,000 licensed dairy herds in Wisconsin, which is a monster to try to figure out how you're going to test.

And other states could get by by simply testing milk silos.

So wherever the milk basically congregated, they could go take a sample and try to trace it that way.

That just doesn't work in Wisconsin.

We've got massive, we've got all kinds of processing in this state from cheese to butter to fluid.

So that got complicated.

Anyhow,

Long story short, the system that was set up by the Wisconsin Department of Aged Trade and Consumer Protection, along with the livestock veterinary medicine, is exactly the ticket.

They found one cow in one herd.

They didn't have to worry about the entire milk processor, an entire silo load of milk, which could have been north of 80 herds impacted.

So the farm is quarantined.

they're gonna try to get answers on how it happened.

I know that there's some conversation that's already bubbling out there about, well, could it have been a veterinarian?

Could it have been a feed representative?

Could it, could it, could it?

Well, we'll wait and see.

Honestly, fellas, this is an example of where you've done everything right.

There is no fault on the farm.

They've done everything right.

Sometimes your card just pops up.

It is just pure, I can't say dumb luck.

But there's nothing that the farm could have done really differently.

It just happened.

So that's why it's all the more perplexing.

We'll wait and see what the USDA and that genomic sequencing say later this week.

But bottom line is everything is under control, handled well, and don't worry about dairy.

I'm kind of curious.

I know that barns aren't sealed tight.

Usually there are birds flying in and out of the barn.

Could that have had an effect possibly?

Yeah, of course.

I thought the same thing, barn swallows, sparrows, they're kind of, you know, crows, ravens, whatever.

So that's, again, one of the reasons why they want to do the genomic sequencing and find out, is this from a bird?

What is this particular virus?

So it's like, I know every farmer out there is going, well, now wait a minute, how can I keep these birds out?

That's a big problem that a lot of dairies have.

And we'll just have to wait and see what the results come up with.

Do they have to

test every cow at this point?

No.

Well, the the the farmers quarantine.

So they'll obviously monitor.

They're just going to monitor the cows to see if any anything else shows flu-like symptoms.

The Department of Health Services is also involved in this.

They're monitoring employees and family members to make sure that they don't have any flu-related symptoms.

So like I said, it

Once you start down this rat hole, you can get pretty deep pretty fast.

So it'll be interesting to watch what comes out later this week

Well Pam, let's turn to some other news of Wisconsin farmers Union had a convention and it wrapped up yesterday up in Wisconsin Dells.

Can you tell

us

what happened there?

I just think it's interesting.

I mean they did fantastic policy work They had over a hundred pages of resolutions.

But what I thought was interesting is, you know

walk the walk.

And Wisconsin Farmers Union did that.

They have a big, big emphasis on buy locals, support your local farmers, know where your food comes from.

So yesterday, actually all through the weekend, they worked with Chula Vista Resort in Wisconsin Dells and they brought in local ingredients.

They brought in farmer ingredients from their members to incorporate in their menu basically through the course of the convention.

I thought that was pretty cool.

And I commend

the Chula Vista for working with them on not only the the menu but you know there's there's phytosanitary there's health related issues they've got to pay attention to in the back of the house so I just commend them it was kind of cool to see

how many different ways that you could feature local produce in that.

And

it's also very good to hear that the farmers weren't injured at the water park as well, so.

That's true.

No, no, no, no.

I don't want some bruises to report there, because I hear

it.

OK.

All

right.

Pat, we've

got to leave it there, but we'll talk to you

later in the week.

You have a good one.

All

right.

That's

fine.

That's panyaki.

And in fact, the Midwest Food and Farm Report is right around the corner, and then we'll be back with Idiocracy for a Monday morning.

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Intelligence continued to decline until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma.

No!

You dense, irritating miniature

beast

of burden!

Idiocracy!

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

As we always say dumb all the time and we've got a whole bunch of stories to prove that that's

right my god Idiocracy

for

a Monday morning.

It's John and Gordy 635 cloudy this morning highs in the low to mid 20s finally Temperatures getting out of the deep freeze Currently we're at eight degrees here.

All right.

Let's get to a

few stories get to something here the New York Times reported to you

about the planned defunding of the Department of Labor's Women's Bureau.

Isn't that nice?

Take a shot at the Women's Department of Labor's Women's Bureau.

Federal cuts have disproportionately affected the departments that have a higher proportion of female employees, such as the Department of Education.

So this week,

Uh, not, not this week, but a couple of weeks ago, uh, Hakeseth, uh, disbanded an advisory committee that encouraged women to join the armed forces, stricter stances surrounding returns to the office after COVID, as well as the end of the federal relief funding for childcare support.

Wow.

Okay.

Let's just do everything all at once and make people suffer, right?

Oh, and Axios reports that the U.S.

is around 100,000 childcare workers short of meeting demand.

100,000 childcare workers short.

Wow.

The lack of childcare tracks with more women staying out of the workforce.

And I blame, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna blame Republicans for this because they don't believe in providing childcare.

We see that in this state.

They don't think it's an issue.

You know, all of these things, I mean, we're 100,000 child care workers short and they don't see a problem getting worse and worse, or worse and worse.

Don't

go down

that road again, Lee.

There's no such word as worse.

We figured it all

out last week.

Some people still use that.

I don't.

I just find that it just sounds dumb.

But anyway, it's idiocracy, man.

What do you want?

OK.

Don't set our high expectation levels here on this section of the show.

OK.

All right.

All right.

So now let's get to something from The Daily Show, Desi Lydic.

She did a little presentation on Trump's Sleepy Joe or Crooked Joe.

And Trump's reference to coal miners.

All right, so let's check this out.

This is cut 208.

Here we go.

Last night, he held an affordability-themed rally at, where else, a casino.

A place where people famously leave with more mining than they came in with.

This is an important issue that affects all Americans.

So President Trump, let's hear your solution.

Which is better sleepy Joe or crooked Joe?

We have 20,000 people I say what you like sleepy Joe or crooked Joe?

Typically crooked Joe wins.

I'm surprised because to me he's a sleepy son of a bitch, you

know Get over Joe.

Bye

It's like if Mike Tyson was still showing up at Evander Holyfield's house trying to bite his other ear.

And not for nothing, Joe Biden is retired now.

He's allowed to be sleepy.

What's your excuse?

But okay, so we got the Biden stuff out of the way.

Then it was time to finally talk affordability.

Let me tell you, black people love Trump.

I got the biggest vote.

I got...

They know it's scam better than anybody.

They know what it is to be scammed.

Okay, that's racist.

White people get scammed too.

So we got a little off track with Biden and black people, but at least no one was thinking about the Epstein files anymore.

For minors, do we love minors?

I love minors.

He

does.

We know, we all saw the birthday card.

By the way,

I was watching this on Fox News last night, and I had the captions on because I'm Gen Z. Don't Google it.

And this is completely real.

The way that it aired, you can actually see that the person doing the closed captions is also confused.

It was spelled N-I-N-O-R at first.

Yeah, and then

it was changed.

They had to go

backtrack and

change it to minors.

E-I-N-E-R.

Oops.

That

was hilarious, though.

You could see it being corrected and everything.

Oh, that's what he meant.

Oops.

Yeah.

I bet they got a good talking to afterwards.

I mean,

lost the job after that.

Well, no,

they knew the difference.

They knew the difference between the two.

I mean, it's easy just to go with the O first.

Oh,

wait a minute,

it's a knee, isn't it?

Okay.

All right, let's get to healthcare here.

I have a clip from David Frums.

podcast with Jonathan Gruber, the professor health care policy guy from Massachusetts, who by the way was one of the architects of the Affordable Care Act.

He said some some things back then that, you know, keep coming back to haunt us.

Really?

But anyway, he's he's making up for it with commentary now today.

And it is he talked about the future of the American health care system.

All right, so let's listen to cut 25

How do other countries approach these things?

What what do they do right that Americans could learn from if Americans were ever minded to learn from anybody?

I think fundamentally they do two different things and this comes through the debate over single payer Let's step back and talk about Bernie and single payer.

Okay.

What is single payer health care?

It really is three different pieces The first piece the one we talk about the most and that's the least important is having one single payer

The second piece is universal coverage.

That's something that other countries do right.

Most countries in the world do right, and that's something we should do.

The third piece, which we don't talk about nearly enough, is regulating health care prices.

We're the only developed country in the world which lets the free market determine the prices we pay for health care.

Health care is a broken market.

The free market should not be determining the prices.

There should be government regulation to determine the prices.

Every other country in the world has learned that lesson.

We should what we're seeing here is america not learning the lesson that was determined in nineteen sixty three the very first article health economics by the nobel prize winning economist kenneth arrow talked about how you could not have a more broken market than health care what i teach my students and introduce your microeconomics david is that the market works government should stay out.

When the market doesn't work government needs to be and the rest of the world on that lesson we haven't now the problem is.

Having done that, we've now set up a class of groups that lobby and have power, so it's hard to get rid of them.

And that is the fundamental challenge going forward as we think about controlling health care costs.

There you go.

Hmm.

I mean that's that says it all right there I mean that that sums it up and again who was and we'll be playing that later in the afternoon again because it's really important to get that

and

that was off of I didn't know David from had a podcast but anyway that was from David from's podcast with Jonathan Gruber.

Okay.

He's a professor of health care policy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and one of the major architects of the Affordable Care Act.

Okay.

So anyway, you know, it's all getting to universal health care.

Eventually.

That's what it's all about.

We're going to get there eventually, but it's going to take a while, apparently, because run out of all the other options.

Well, there is an option that they're kicking around right now.

It's called an association, and they want people to sign up to associations.

This is an old one as well.

Oldie but a Goldie.

I don't know.

See what they wanted to do was they wanted to get local communities to form associations

of

small businesses.

So they could get together and get a price that's pretty low because there are a lot of people buying into it.

Now that is a failed proposition.

People could not join.

You had to be a part of a business.

to be involved in that.

So it excluded a lot of people in the community

and

it wasn't very open.

and and unaffordable.

So they want to go back to that.

It's just it's one bad idea after the next.

I completely forgot about it, by

the way.

It's just that's from what I remember.

It's just a failed proposition where businesses get together and create associations.

And it's just unworkable.

You can't find enough business to join in and do

it.

You know all about health.

I

do.

So is that like remember HMOs?

Are

HMOs still around?

Health

maintenance organizations.

Sounds kind of

like a scene.

Yeah, it sounds something like that, but again, this is just a different animal.

It's for smaller communities and smaller groups because HMOs are larger.

Okay.

All right.

Okay, I'll get into this too.

Heck with it.

What?

I'm gonna get this off my chest.

All right, take a deep breath.

We had a family Christmas get together over the weekend.

Oh, really?

I bet that was fun.

In Illinois, it was always fun because one of my brothers is somewhat conservative.

Yeah.

And we were all sitting together and it was just the four of us, you know, just, you know, my sister and my two brothers.

Yeah.

And we were just talking and I said, you know, one of these days we'll have to get universal health

That

just came up in conversation.

No, I just brought it up, but it was pretty neutral.

I'm not, you know, advocating any one thing at that point.

It just brought that up.

And then my brother just got real angry immediately.

He said, well, people in Canada, they're waiting in line to get treatment.

That's bad.

They have to come down here.

And I said, no, no, we have lines here too.

And I said, it's just your conservative friends.

They want special treatment.

He goes, no, they're not all rich and wealthy.

They're just normal people too.

And I said, no, that's not true.

Because personally, you know, I mean, if they can spend the money to come down here on our high cost health care just because they want to skip in line, they're wealthy.

All right.

What

did your sister have anything

to say about it?

My sister joined in and she basically said, well, there's also the problem of medical bankruptcies.

Oh, yes.

You don't have that in Canada.

See, that was the dead giveaway, right?

I mean, these guys, they want to skip in line.

They don't care how much money they spend.

They just want to...

Get in line faster.

So does every every year does your brother get ganged up on is it like a

We didn't actually gang up.

We kind of Just talked it over.

Yeah, really and it was actually a good conversation.

Yeah, your other brother have anything to say no He just sat in the corner.

He just agreed not it.

No, you just agreed

Remember the last time we got together, one of them or both of them could have voted for Trump.

And they said, well, just wait and see.

I remember that.

Yeah, wait and see.

And that was the theme on our show for a long period of time.

Wait and see.

Right.

And boy, that didn't take long.

We became a

dictatorship almost immediately, didn't we?

But everything worked out okay, the family walked away, everybody holding hands

and big hugs.

Well, it was a big scuffle and a few people got bloody.

Fists were flying, huh?

Yeah, that's nice.

That's cool.

You know, the fact is, we never get together, right?

They gave us some presents.

We didn't expect that.

And we left them all there.

They never took any of it.

You left the gifts there.

Now they have to send a package.

Well, that's ridiculous.

We're not used

to this.

We don't visit people very often.

OK.

Coming up, we're going to find out about that mural that's on the east side of Madison.

Yeah.

And much more coming up on John and Gordy in the morning.

It is 6.52, it's cloudy and chilly this morning, eight degrees, but highs will get into the low to mid-twenties later, and we'll see a good deal of cloud cover.

There's a new mural on the east side of Madison, and Mary Lang Solinger is with us.

Mary, thank you for coming in this morning.

You're a volunteer.

Get right close to that,

Mike.

I mean, as close as you possibly can.

Right on it.

Thank you.

There we can

hear

you.

Mary, tell us a little bit about the background.

And also we're going to have artifacts joining us.

Is she on the phone right now?

I believe artifacts

is

joining

us

on the phone.

This is the artist that put together the mural.

Good morning, artifacts.

Can you hear us?

I can hear you.

Can you hear me?

Yes,

very good.

All

right.

Mary, tell us about the background of how this mural

came to be.

Sure.

Well, first of all, Madison has some great murals, and it creates a wonderful sense of space and our heritage, depending on what the theme of the mural is.

And so we read it.

There's another very important person, Pat Kelly.

I was also at the Tending Lap of Neighborhood Association.

meeting and was that the January or February?

And the subject came up and people got excited about it.

And we had another location.

We worked with the city quite a bit and realized that location wasn't going to work out.

So we looked for another one and actually Pat found this and it was the wall, it's a wooden fence wall at the Madison Utility which is the facility.

And it's right on the second, the 200 block of North Livingston.

And it faces North Patterson because Reynolds Park is there.

It's a great big green space.

And it's a great venue to have the mural because of the exposure.

It's right across the corner from Breece Stevens and right behind Festival Foods.

Okay,

it's beautiful.

I'm looking

at a picture of it right now.

Now there's going to be

a get together this week Wednesday.

Yes, it's Wednesday at noon at Reynolds Park.

Okay.

And yes, we'll have a ribbon cutting

ceremony.

Okay.

Let's bring it artifacts

and

do our conversation artifacts.

Can you can you describe this mural and and the theme of it?

Absolutely.

So I

is a figure of a woman and she represents the Native American history of the area and she to me is a nature spirit and from her hair or her headdress there are bur oak leaves which are native to Wisconsin flowing

uh from that headdress and then on the right hand side we have two hands holding some fruit so uh in this area of reynolds park uh in the tiny lapham area which is actually my home by the way so it is my neighborhood which is amazing uh this is such a gift to work on this project because not just because of that but because of course from a muralist in madison um

and this is so close to my heart but right hand side has the hands holding fruits and those are representative of John Hill who moved to Madison with his wife Amanda and they opened a grocery store called Hill's Grocery and it was open for 70 years and they are so they

That was the start of the first African-American neighborhood in Madison.

And then on the left-hand side, what I hold dear the most is the nature aspect.

Because without nature, none of us would be here.

We

all rely on it, and it's very important.

So regardless of our culture, that is something that we really do need to remember.

and honor.

And they have, so it's featured of different native plants of Wisconsin.

So we have the Blue Flag Iris, we have woodland sunflowers, and then upper oak tree.

And then what that area looks like before,

settlement was marsh and it was wetland with patches of forest.

So I wanted to feature what it actually looked like and I did work with archaeologists to dive into what that exact area looks like pre-settlement.

So I did also work with

an archaeologist named Constance Erzigan who helped me to understand the Native American history of the area as well.

So there's so much information.

Yeah, let's jump in a little bit.

It's hard to get the perspective of this.

How long is this?

How big is this?

It's 40 feet wide, 10 feet high.

Yes.

So I worked on this since it is obviously too cold to work outside.

I worked on this in a warehouse and then we installed it on Friday on the location.

So yeah, yeah.

So many hands to make this happen.

Yeah.

Let's get Mary back here.

Mary, can you describe what's going to happen at the event on Wednesday?

What time that is?

Yeah,

I appreciate it.

The ribbon cutting.

Yeah, that sounds great.

Thank you so much.

We only have about a minute left.

Okay, it starts running out of time.

That's all right.

It starts at noon, and it's on the corner of Livingston and Patterson and Mifflin Street.

It's the only place that has a big green space.

You can't miss it.

We'll have a white tent.

So people are very much welcome to come.

It is spectacular.

And I just want to let you know that the artist was chosen by public elections.

Very good.

It's absolutely

gorgeous.

Picture

is

fantastic looking.

It really is beautiful.

I love the

blooming clouds in the back.

It provides contrast.

It's all

gorgeous.

Artifacts, I'm sorry we're out of time, but thank you so much for joining us and Mary Lange

Solinger, thank you as well.

Thank you, my

pleasure.

Again, Wednesday is the Ribbon Cutting.

We'll have more on our Facebook page.

Back with more of John and Gordy after this.

Could it be that 92 FM was made for you and me?

Now every morning, they get you rolling.

Hey, hey.

Oh, yeah.

Playing songs help you make it through your days.

Well, we tried.

Come on.

Oh, the station keeps right on beat.

It is right

on.

Now that 92 FM keeps rocking this way.

Hey!

I'm

here.

President of

the Cal

Report.

Well, I like it.

It's beautiful.

Hey, bring it home.

Yeah!

He's

got

a music machine and thanks to it.

I've

never heard of that one before I gotta

Play that more that was great in all my time.

I've never heard that one All

your time we've

been here six months.

Yeah, that's hard to

believe Yeah, we had that at the old 92 that we were many many many years ago.

We're stuck on this place in the

dial

basically,

so We like it

It's John and Gordy along with our producer Dominic Lee and it's a cloudy start here downtown Madison overlooking State Street a block off the Capitol.

We have clouds and eight degrees highs today in the low to mid twenties.

All right, it's time to bring everybody

down.

Why don't we have a recap of what happened over the weekend?

This is can

we get through all this man?

All right, horrible.

Yeah, Rob Reiner and his wife were murdered.

in their mansion and we don't know who had done it yet.

They're actually interviewing family members at this point.

You think there'd be a lot of security cameras and the like, but we'll see what happens with this.

This happened overnight.

Well, yeah, it happened late yesterday.

And you mentioned that Rob Reiner had a phone call.

Talk to Eric Eidl, is that it?

Apparently, yes.

From Monty Python.

Yes, and they had an hour-long conversation, and that was shortly before this

whatever happened

happened.

And of course, police are still investigating, and we'll find out more probably later today

or tonight.

Erragously tragic.

I mean, Rob was out there promoting Spinal Tap again, and really pushing this thing.

Yeah, and it's a great little movie.

And if you liked the first one, you'll probably love the second one too.

But yeah, it was horrible.

Wow.

And of course, many people remember Rob Reiner from his time on All in the Family.

Yes.

Terrific show.

He played Michael Stivick, Archie Bunker's son-in-law.

What did Archie call him?

Meathead.

Yes, Meathead.

Yes, among other names.

But Meathead was the main one.

And that was a groundbreaking show, of course.

Rob Reiner went on to become a great film director when Harry meant Sally.

Do we have a clip from that?

We do.

Can we

play the famous clip

a little bit?

You can

put it on in the background

here.

Play the whole thing, right?

Oh, OK.

Don't talk over it.

We'll talk over it.

All right.

We'll play the whole clip.

All right.

Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan.

Billy

crystal

Uh-oh.

Yeah.

See?

They're faking it.

Okay.

All right.

I mean, we got

the idea, you know, I guess.

Oh, you're gonna wait for

the famous

line from Rob Reiner's mom coming up.

Okay.

Sitting...

Also in the restaurant here.

Here we go.

Okay.

All right.

Bring it back up.

I'll fight.

Yeah.

Fast forward it a little bit.

Okay.

All right.

Okay.

That's what he said.

Fast forward.

Here we go.

What are the great lies?

It is.

It really is.

Movie history.

And that was Rob Reiner's mom that was in

With that famous line

Robert McFarland actually quoted that in the text to us Okay,

all right.

Yeah, so Taking some texts here you can call

us

608-879-8255 And if you want to text us get on the civic media app and text away.

All

right, so Well on the subject of women.

Oh wait, we have CJ on the line

All right.

Now somebody's saying that's a Libya, Dukakis.

OK, well, we'll do a little more research here.

Anyway, CJ, good morning.

What do you got for us?

Good morning, gentlemen.

I didn't know you were going to play porn on the radio today.

But we always do.