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Never had so much meaning until this morning.

My name's in there, program director and boss boss and all that stuff.

I mean, they should concern themselves with this stuff.

I'm sorry, that's not a good way to start.

Hi, John Scott is in the studio, ladies and gentlemen.

Hi.

I'm Catherine Lake.

And we are in for John and Gordy.

Dominic, this is going to be a hell of a morning.

I'm excited.

I'm excited, guys.

See, I don't know how to do this anymore.

I honestly don't remember how to do this.

Do you, John?

You've been on the air for many, many, many, many, many years too, John Scott.

607, the show's in the ditch.

Nice.

No, you've been doing it for a long time.

You're in it.

You're on it.

You're going to help me

out.

All right.

I

got you.

Really?

Yeah.

We have a lot of stuff to get to.

And I should start with, again, not John and Gordy.

They are still doing afternoons.

So grateful to them for jumping in the air chair for afternoons when we had all the big changes.

And we're just scrambling to keep them...

alive and awake to get through to the end of the year.

And then we'll see what, what, what occurs for the morning show after that.

The thing about reinvention is that it's scary at first,

but

then at all, all the clouds part and it all makes sense later.

So we're in the process of reinventing.

So it seems like chaos, but it's actually just a planned evolution.

I love that.

Isn't he good?

That's why he's our master of marketing.

I was writing that down, actually.

Did you?

Did you?

All right.

Well, this is WMDX, 92.7 FM.

And I'm Catherine Lake.

And again, John Scott is joining me today.

We are filling in for John and Gordy, who will be here for the afternoon.

I have their rundown.

I think what we should do is do all of their topics.

Instead of them getting to do it this afternoon, they'll have to come up with a whole new.

Because I'm not John Peterson.

I am not going to spend

all day, preparing, you know, topics and all the cuts that he puts together.

It's such a good show.

And I don't have that in me, do you?

Well, when you steal from us, you've stolen twice.

Exactly.

I do know they do tell the temperature and the time and stuff like that.

Yeah.

Six oh eight at this point.

And yeah, five degrees.

It is going to be a cold one.

As you're thinking about putting your feet on that floor, you might just turn up the temperature in the house before you.

Start your shower.

Gonna get 14 degrees today.

That's about it.

14 for a high.

We're heading up there now.

Tomorrow we're gonna get up to 29.

We're not gonna get snow again maybe till Saturday afternoon into Sunday perhaps.

25 for high on Saturday.

21 on Sunday.

Clear skies.

Maybe a few clouds here and there.

And then it looks like we're gonna get some precipitation again maybe next week.

early in the week.

But otherwise, we are just solidly into winter.

Welcome to it.

Five degrees at 6 0 8.

Good morning.

Sound just like Gordy there.

Do I?

Just a little bit.

He's going to do the next one.

I'm going to wake his butt up.

They think they can sleep in this week.

That is, they're sadly mistaken.

Yeah, you got to call

them.

I'm going to call them.

We're going to get them on the phone.

All right.

All right.

Other things happening.

Um, first of all,

Madison magazine, I missed it.

It came in while I was gone for Thanksgiving.

It's a beautiful cover.

Did you see Madison magazine?

It's all about coffee.

My favorite drug.

I still take that drug and I really shouldn't.

I think once you hit a certain age, you should be giving up on those things.

My mom never did though.

Are you a coffee snob?

I'm not.

I don't, I like it strong.

I don't like a weak cup of coffee, but are you?

Do you need to grind your own kind of thing?

I've got a.

You do special water resource,

a special water

resource being selection.

You're siding me like you're not going to tell me the truth.

What is it?

Isn't it?

My sister has a thousand dollar coffee machine.

Life's too short to drink bad coffee.

Okay.

Um, but yeah, um, the water is separate from the tap.

We got a Brita with a filter in it that takes all the nastiness out.

So it's

impurities,

the impurities.

Yes.

Yeah.

So that matters.

The quality of the water is what makes the difference for you and your coffee.

I mean, we found a place that sells a pound of coffee for $25, but I'm not going there.

No.

It just has to be a little bit better than the gas station.

And you do grind.

You take the beans home.

Yes.

You wouldn't even dane to grind them there.

Well, I got a semi-automatic thing that grinds it for you.

That's what my sister does.

Dumps it in, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah.

That's not worth it.

That's like going to Starbucks for me.

Her machine is like spending time in line at Starbucks.

It takes about the same amount of time.

See, that's why I've been going to energy drinks.

I know that's not a good idea, but I've recently been fixated on energy drinks.

I feel like I gotta stop.

Do not get me started on you and your energy drinks.

The Red Bull really gives me wings.

I can't hear you say that the other day.

It gives me wings.

Do you like

Celsius drinks?

I do actually, yes.

I do like those as well.

That was

pretty good.

What else

called?

Celsius.

I think I've seen that.

Do we have those in our fridge here?

No.

No, okay.

No, we don't.

All right.

So welcome to the morning show yet.

It is not John and Gordy again.

Right now, I think the schedule is kind of they're doing Mondays and Friday mornings and afternoons and then Tuesday through Thursday afternoons as well.

But I'm Catherine.

John Scott is here.

Dominic, thank goodness, is really in charge this morning because we don't know how to do this.

We've got a text to win contest today, John Scott.

How are we going to get all this done?

I don't know.

We'll figure it out.

We'll figure it out.

That plus, oh, big doings tonight.

Godfather of Green Bay.

I can't wait for this movie.

We're going to talk about that today.

Can we wake up Pete, do you think, too?

We might be able to...

Maybe just the last five minutes.

He was here last night, we'll just say, we'll see.

He's still in town, isn't he?

He is, yes.

Oh my gosh, guess because, okay, we'll talk about that.

And how much time we got?

Where are we on this schedule?

I can't see a clock in his office.

It's at the top.

Is there a clock in there?

Okay, all right, so we're in good shape.

We don't have to go anywhere till 20, right?

Yep.

All right, okay, we're in good shape.

So yes, we'll talk about the movie tonight, Godfather of Green Bay Screening, exclusive.

And if you haven't got your tickets yet,

You may be out of luck, but we'll talk about that in a little bit.

And, ooh, I've got an old friend calling in today.

I think we'll have him on StreamYard, John Scott, to talk about data centers.

What is your thought immediately when I say data centers?

Expensive, controversial, AI bubble, about to pop.

Do you

think about Madison?

There are 11 data centers in Madison.

What?

There are 21 data centers in Milwaukee.

What?

There are 43 data centers already in Wisconsin.

Holy smokes.

And here I think we're talking about like the first one and we've got already 43.

This isn't that big a deal then evidently.

Gotta tell

them.

Unless you don't want it near you.

And why might you not want it near you?

All these things we can talk about.

I want to hear from other people, by the way, please.

Joe, Dick, Mark, don't leave me hanging here this morning.

608-879-8255 is the phone number.

Easiest if you use the app, download the Civic Media app, and you can get all the radio stations that we have, some of them music, some of them talk.

And yeah, so all that coming up.

Ozempic?

I want to talk about Ozempic.

My sister thought about it.

That's one of the things I want to get to this morning.

A pharmaceutical win, I think it has been a boondoggle for some people, but I can't wait to talk about that.

And thrifting.

My daughter has got me into thrifting like you can't believe she's 15, right?

Turning 16.

Oh my gosh, this month.

She's turning 16.

I'm going to take her on a big thrift binge for her birthday.

That is the latest.

Do you thrift?

I do.

You do.

Have regularly for years or?

Throwback shirts.

Great coat sometimes.

Yeah.

He feels awesome.

Have you been doing it for a long time?

I mean, it took me, you know, like my daughter dragging me.

When we were in high school, we were somewhat outliers.

I'm from a small farm town in the middle of Iowa.

And we didn't want to dress like the farm kids.

the other kids.

So we would go to big cities like Dubuque

or

Cedar Rapids

and we would

find thrift stores and buy these like wall quadrophenia sort of long coats.

And it wasn't, we weren't goth.

We just didn't want to dress.

Like farm kids.

Yeah.

Which is

terrible because farm kids are cool.

We didn't look weird.

I don't think we stood out.

We just.

We really enjoyed the process of shopping and going through the rack and just finding that treasure.

Yeah.

That was fun for us.

Did you raise kids?

You have kids?

Yeah.

How many?

Two.

Two.

And they're how old now?

22, 23.

Oh my gosh.

So they're grown.

When they were little, did you thrift with them?

Did you?

Yeah.

We're going to go to Chicago for Christmas.

Yeah.

Because.

my daughter lives there, or my son lives there, my daughter's gonna live there next year, but we'll be together for Christmas and we'll probably end up at a thrift shop.

I'm telling you, my kid, who's now lived in Chicago and started thrifting there, she was raised there, and we got here two years, her two, oh my God, I can't even tell time anymore.

I've been here two years, she's been here.

She told me with no uncertain terms, thrifting in Chicago way better than Madison.

She has not found her thrift source here that she loves.

Yeah, there's some good ones Yeah,

and so on every street corner it feels like and quality stuff

And I know I go to Plato's closet in Goodwill those are my two that I thrift at as well But I don't is there like specific thrift stores in Chicago like small local

Thrift stores.

Yes.

Yes.

In the neighborhoods.

Yes.

Not chains.

And so Play-Dohs is a chain.

And guess what?

My kid worked there for a little while.

Really?

Yeah.

So she's burned that bridge.

Can't go back there to shop.

That's probably why she's desperate for finding a location.

Oh my gosh.

617 already this morning.

Five degrees.

If you're just waking up, you're going to want to put on some layers.

While I was away for Thanksgiving, it definitely fell.

Thanksgiving brought winter to Wisconsin.

It wasn't so bad in Seattle.

How was your Thanksgiving?

It was void of politics, drama, drunkenness, inappropriateness, and anger.

None of that occurred in your table.

Unbelievable.

It was a miracle and it was a lot of fun.

I suspect that's kind of a rare story.

I bet a lot of people had some...

troubled times at dinner.

We skirted it, we skirted it, but you?

I didn't feel like we needed to skirt.

It just sort of didn't happen.

Bad things did not happen, and the turkey was amazing.

Unbelievable.

You remember that Saturday Night Live sketch?

I don't remember the character's names, forgive me, but there's a character that shows up at Thanksgiving, and if anybody starts to say anything, politicals, ah!

She just starts screaming, or, really, you can talk about that here, now!

Very, very funny.

I didn't have to do that either.

My brother is a conservative.

He's a Republican.

He's not a conservative.

He's Republican.

He's not a maga.

He's a Republican.

But he voted for and he feels the need to defend Donald Trump.

So that became a little bit itchy.

But we just turned him away from it, made fun of him.

Not Donald Trump.

My brother made fun of him.

And he's self-aware enough to take the joke and...

Oh.

Go with it?

Yeah, he

is.

That's how you should do

it.

Seriously, when siblings, right?

I mean, we're all orphans now, so we've got to stay close and you got to keep politics out of it.

You got to, you got to.

So yeah, okay, so we're not John and Gordy.

They are going to do the afternoon again.

You'll hear them then.

It's Catherine Lake and John Scott subbing in this morning.

I hope we hear from you today.

Good morning.

You can get mountain grown or grind your own coffee.

Robert Young's at the door telling you to drink more coffee.

Need a cup, need a cup, need a cup, coffee.

92.

It's a whole different deal being on this side of the microphone, John Scott.

It's a whole different deal.

I'm usually lying in bed listening to the guys at this point.

I'm surprised they aren't calling and just mocking me incessantly for blowing this.

I'm Catherine.

I'm Catherine.

This is John Scott sitting with me.

Thank goodness.

He is our marketing guru for the entire company of civic media and a fan of WMDX.

And so he agreed to sit with me this morning while we fill in for John and Gordy, who are still herculeingly taking over the entire radio station, the entire network for that matter, doing afternoons for us.

And I'm grateful for you to tune in.

Give us a call if you feel like it's 608-879-8255.

Don't leave me hanging here.

We need, right, John?

We need to talk to people that talk to John and Gordy regularly.

For instance, like Matt in Middleton who, thank goodness, is saying hello this morning.

Hi, Matt.

Good morning, guys.

For an alternative to coffee, may I suggest one packet of black tea, heavy and caffeine, one packet of decaf green tea,

put that in a cup with some hot water, add a little local Wisconsin honey, you're good to go.

That sounds good.

And you won't have any heartburn.

No

heartburn.

See, that's the thing.

This is all

new

to me.

Oh my gosh, I hit a certain age, Matt, and I will tell you it's 60.

And suddenly all these little things that I never heard of are happening to me.

I don't get it.

Oh, yeah, I'm gonna be 50 next year and I switched to black tea and I don't get the heartburn and I still get the energy and you still get the

fun ritual of creating a drink

Indeed but but I did want to make a point about and ask the question to any parents out there right now with young people You know, I grew up in the 80s and I remember when video games became a thing and how difficult it was to

for my parents to pry me away from them to focus on the hour and a half to two hours of homework I would have on each day.

So I would typically only get about 40 minutes of it done, right?

Today, I'm seeing a lot of stuff online where teachers are complaining about kids who can't even put together a five-sentence paragraph.

They can't read, they can't write, they want everything done for them.

And it's my belief that technology is a big part of that.

I dated someone recently they had two young people and the young boy had much more trouble with it than the than the his sister always on a tablet always complaining he had to do one assignment that wasn't very difficult and he had a temper tantrum over it and then and he was the age of like 11 at the time I think

yeah

so what do people do about that because

Nowadays, you have all that attention seeking, distractionary, movies, games, whatever, all on your phone, and we've given it to young people.

We've handed it over.

Well, Southeast Asia is successful because they practice discipline, and they're good at limiting young people's exposure to things.

Whereas here in America, if it makes profit, just do it.

Give it to the kids.

Don't

worry about

the farm.

Yeah.

No, we focus on that.

We focus on what we can get to whom as young as humanly possible.

Cigarettes, alcohol, internet, phones.

You're absolutely right, Matt.

Thank you.

That's a great, great idea to talk about that too, because I've got a 15-year-old.

Thank you again, Matt.

who is totally addicted.

And we handed it to this child when they were nine years old, nine during the pandemic.

Get out of the house, get out of the house, go for a walk, get out of the house, go for a walk.

Oh, take this.

Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't go too far.

Take this so I can always reach you.

And it had to be, I couldn't give her, God bless it, why didn't we give him a flip phone?

But instead we gave them the internet.

to carry around.

I didn't get a television in my bedroom when I was growing up.

I mean, we can make all the comparisons, but this is a whole different

era.

Yeah.

I had a TV in my room.

You did.

A big one.

A big

one.

Yeah.

You know, it was a thousand years ago, but it was a pretty big TV, not as big as the one in our studio, which is I think a 70 inch screen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, but I, I had jobs, worked at a pizza place and saved up and got myself a TV.

Oh, you bought it for yourself?

Yes.

And we're growing up without cable, right?

We had four channels.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's a different ballgame altogether.

608-879-8255.

I'm Catherine, and John Scott is guest hosting with me for John and Gordy.

And thank you so much for tuning in and not tuning out, because I know you're waiting for them.

And they'll be back this afternoon for sure.

So stick around.

Mark Collin and Mark, good morning.

Thanks for saving us.

So no problem, Kathy.

Pleasure to talk to you.

You're talking about thrifting earlier.

Yeah.

Probably the best deal I've ever ran into.

The St.

Vinnie's up here in Prairie to Sack is pretty good.

The best deal I've ever ran into is iPhone A. Wool hunting coat, you know, the big, you know, the old red plaid ones, inflated, you know, button-up thing, you know, then, you know, no holes in it, you know, no moth eating thing.

It's probably got to be, had probably about the 19th, say, vintage of the 1960s.

paid $5 for it.

Oh

my gosh.

While I was standing in line, a guy offered me $15 for it.

Just to take it out of your hands.

Just to take it out of my hands.

And you're talking about morning drinks.

My mother used to drink this thing called, and I would drink it occasionally, too, called postum, which was a toasted, toasted, I had to look it up.

Told you, I knew it was some kind of toasted grain thing.

Yeah, yeah.

It was toasted wheat, wheat bran, and molasses.

the other, and you blend it up and it tastes, you know, it's a warm beverage in the morning.

I mean, that, I don't know if I'd switch it to, it's okay.

Oh,

I'm ready to make a switch.

I need a new one.

I like that idea.

Thanks so much.

Thanks so much.

608-879-8255.

This is WMDX.

We're going to do some more of this.

82.

It's getting there.

We're almost done, John.

It's at 6.35.

We've been at this for 35 minutes, and I'm already exhausted.

You

out of gas already?

I'm already out of gas.

I don't know how John and Gordy do this.

Wow.

Dominic, I don't know how it's done.

I've forgotten how to do this.

This is crazy.

We've got to pick her up.

Okay, I'm Catherine.

This is John Scott.

We are in for John and Gordy who will be doing the afternoons again for us today.

Thank goodness for John and Gordy.

Thank goodness they are handling so much this month and we're in a big transition period and I'm grateful that you are all sticking with us.

Please do stick around.

Keep with Civic Media and WMDX in particular here in Madison.

We are, we're putting some stuff together and it just, it takes time.

It takes time to build and rebuild.

And if you're not growing, you're dying.

Try and look at it this way.

The city, a city is an infinite experiment.

It, it changes every day.

Something's different every day.

People from different walks of life in different places every day.

Cities are complicated.

And so is doing this and figuring out.

how to talk to folks and how to talk to them in the right way in a way that they wish to be spoken to.

And that's what we're working out.

That's what

we're working

out.

This is just a task in progress.

That's exactly right.

So we're in for John and Gordy today.

608-879-8255 is the phone number.

We're trying to keep things a little bit normal.

And one of those things is to speak with Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils, who I adore.

I'm so glad you're

still part

of the morning show when I'm doing this darn thing.

Thank

you.

I'm, yeah.

Man, I don't think I've ever been introduced as normal.

Well, that may be not right.

I

appreciate the nod to normality.

You know, it's something I potentially strive for.

Have you met

John Scott, our marketing guy?

You know, we had a conversation.

I think John it was maybe six eight months ago I was still in Ohio Getting ready to make this transition to Pennsylvania.

So Yeah, I you know, we had good conversation Boy talking to people the way they want to be talked to hmm.

Do you do that?

I I you know, I try and I'm just thinking of a great

parallel, potentially my daughter who's 22 and graduating college, the communication between father and daughter, that's truly an example of admitting to yourself that if I continue to talk my way, we will never communicate ever again.

We will never understand each other.

Fair.

Well, you're trying

to pick up her lingo, her language, or?

You know what it is?

It's one of those, you know, it's like, okay, any type of, quote, advice, wisdom, guidance.

She's not down for that.

That ended at 15, didn't it?

Not at 22.

But what's interesting now, though, is I just started finally getting into learning how to talk to her, and now she's shifting.

Because occasionally, she acknowledges that I might

Beyond to something

now.

Okay.

Now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, okay

She got educated,

you know,

she

got educated.

So now she knows her dad knows a few things

But but what's interesting and I don't know if you guys know you can look at her face and see that she's struggling herself with going I I don't want to hear my father But but but I can right now and it's

it's bothering her that at this point she's now making the like oh my god this guy makes sense

did you hear in the in the studio uh adjacent our production our producers studio dominant when you said she doesn't need it yep he is 22 so he absolutely is totally empathetic with your daughter

it's very relatable very relatable

So your daughter

does not respect your academic bona fides, and I'm sure

she respects your successes.

What I'm saying is now is she's actually giving me the sense of gone, maybe dad knows a little bit of some things, and I might want to pay attention.

Now, is that the, again, communication, right?

Whew.

pushed me, though, into realizing that I need to not know everything.

Yes,

I need to.

And I think this is what we're talking about here.

I need to approach anybody with a sense of, like, I want to hear what you're thinking.

I have some ideas.

But hey,

let's have a conversation instead of me telling you what I think you should do and what I think about these things because I think within with say that for any conversation

you know

if we start telling people things I think the instant reaction is to potentially go well who the heck are you.

to tell me something.

And I think a lot of our conversations fall flat when we just approach it as, hey, look, I'm here to deliver wisdom, you know, the most amazing things you've ever seen.

So just sit back and take it in.

Such a

hard skill.

What you're talking about is a very difficult skill in parenting.

A friend of mine who I've brought on the air because she's so flipping smart, Mary, Dr. Mary Walden.

She is a doctor of clinical social work.

So she does therapy with young people a lot.

And she says, well, all you have to do is just ask questions.

And it's so hard because I want to say is, well, when I was your age, this is what

I

did.

And I'm going to save you from all of that.

And it doesn't work that way.

No, it doesn't work that way.

And I said it.

And so maybe what John was talking about and, you know, the, the, the move, I don't want to say move, but, you know, trying to figure this out is.

Sometimes, the figuring it out is actually letting go of what we think we know.

Right.

It'd be much more in a position.

You know, that's what we say, and we've tried, Johnny, you know, and I try to do this on Busted Pencils all the time.

In fact, we made the show.

We said, look, we know a lot about what we're talking about.

We're educated educators talking education, but

If we want people to potentially hear what we're saying, we said, let's turn this show into a conversation with my neighbor.

You know, because it's actually my neighbor who is either potentially going to

act and and do something or shut down and go away and not listen.

And so when we're talking about education issues like that, you know, I've always said is I just really want my neighbor to go.

I didn't know that.

Nice.

You know, oh my god, I didn't know that Tim.

let's talk come on over I got a six pack of beer and tell me tell me why the headline in you know the Wisconsin examiner that says one third of kids uh early childhood kids can't read tell me why I shouldn't be as worried as the headline makes me feel right

Tim

Slecker, Busted Pencils, airs Saturday, 6 a.m.

and 3 p.m.

on Saturdays on WMDX.

Tim Slecker, thank you for being with us this morning.

John Scott is also in the studio.

John, you have two kids.

You had to get them through schools, all kinds of schools.

Well, I think Tim's on to something.

Conversation, communication involves empathy.

It involves reading the room.

If you're face-to-face with someone, it's noting signals and facial expressions and cues.

If you're talking to someone that you can't see, it's tone and tempo.

And just talking at someone is not really communicating with them.

You have to ask open-ended questions.

So like for a kid, so they don't just go, no.

Yeah.

How was your day?

Yeah.

Yeah, that never works.

Tim knows that.

No.

But communicating with a kid is a challenge, but I think if you have empathy and if you're a really good listener, you got a fighting chance.

You know what though and that's it the listener and and that's the part is to you know It's it's it's almost like like a like an anxiety thing.

It's like no resist the urge to Interject, you know sit back hold tight deal with the anxiety of not being able to say what you want to say and just listen That's hard

That's hard, you know, especially when let's be honest when you probably do know a little bit more Probably do have a little bit more of an insight and some knowledge and so the ability to not correct to not interject That's that's tough

And I'd say the same thing here when we're talking to our neighbors or listener in the car or somebody in the morning drinking their coffee.

And in this case, I can't see the listener out there on the radio.

I don't know how they're doing.

And so I think moderating

between here are the points I'm making and then also being potentially asking myself questions and or and like, well, Johnny and I do is, you know, we push on each other and go like, well, you know, Johnny, like 10, 10, 10, wait a minute.

Yeah.

And so I got to sit back, shut my mouth.

Let him kind of interject and go like what are you talking about?

And so yeah, you know conversation.

It's it's it's a It's a tool.

It's a tool and it's fun and a skill, you know I I just you know, so but I've just had more and more though to this You know the conversation with my my daughter who you know, she's gonna graduate from college here in December and

It's it's interesting because she's now yeah she's transitioning into going okay so what's next.

And you know at 18 and 19 when she was a freshman and sophomore in college you know what next was you know she knew for sure.

And I couldn't say a darn thing but now it's interesting she's kind of getting the like man.

Maybe she's about to

face a bunch of doors, right?

So when do I open dad?

I mean, at least give me a hint.

And we and this is, you know, we know college graduates right now coming out are facing an incredibly tough job market.

You know, it's anxiety provoking.

They're seeing the news.

They're hearing about it.

So, you know,

I don't know.

It's so anyway, so I'm trying to help her with that.

And this is, you know, again, what we do.

So what does it mean?

How do you get ready and move yourself into this transition moment?

It is a transition.

Is she going to go to graduate school, do you think?

Well, and you know,

that's where that's what we're talking about now is a graduate school.

You know, she's a wildlife studies natural resources major.

What's the job market look like right now for that?

And, you know, the other thing is, holy crap.

What does it mean in this age as I'm about to graduate?

Everybody's using AI.

Should I be using it?

Oh, no, not the AI thing.

Oh, Tim Slecker, we're going to have to continue this.

We have another minute or two with you after this, will you?

Absolutely.

He does

busted pencils with Johnny Lupinacci on Saturdays, 6A and 3P.

You can hear their podcast.

It is excellent.

Stick around.

We'll do more.

7.

WMDX.

Well, I hear that music.

I think I'm just going to wait, and then John and Gordy are going to be on the air, and it's going to be awesome.

I can't wait to hear what they're going to say next.

Only it's not them this morning.

They'll be around later.

They'll be around later.

It's John and Gordy all day, all the time on WMDX right now.

But no, for a little while longer, just give us a little time.

We're working on it.

We're working on the whole thing.

We're gonna get it all fixed up.

I'm Catherine Lake, meanwhile.

John Scott is also sitting with me.

Thank you so much for getting up this morning.

Appreciate you having

me, thank you.

Appreciate you being here.

Couldn't have done it without you.

608-879-8255, for those who wanna join the conversation, 879-TALK.

Little business here, don't wanna forget several things.

You just heard that the text to win is happening.

Oh my gosh, it's on.

And I have the next word that I will be telling you after seven o'clock.

So you're going to want to stick around for that.

I'll give you a hint.

It's fast.

That's all I'm going to tell you.

So that is going to be in the seven o'clock hour.

And this is going to be, as you heard, a lot of really good prizes.

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to 608-879-8255, easiest with the app, by the way, which is free to use and to download.

And then you could get into winter when all these great prizes, which I'll tell you about in seven o'clock.

So there's that.

Also tonight, if you haven't yet heard about this, the Godfather of Green Bay is screening at the Atwood Music Hall tonight.

And this is a movie made by Pete Schwabba.

our nightlight host.

And you might have seen the movie.

It's been out for 20 years.

It's their anniversary.

He made a real film, John Scott.

Pretty awesome.

Pretty awesome.

And a dollar of each of these $10 tickets is going to go to the Dane County Humane Society.

So hopefully you will have already purchased your tickets.

But if you haven't, 10 bucks.

Get to theatwoodcenter.com, I believe, theatwoodmusical.com, theatwoodmusical.com for your tickets.

And we'll see you there.

Pete's going to be there.

He's here in town.

He'll be doing a show live from here tonight.

I believe, or maybe he's doing a repeat tonight, right?

I think he's doing a repeat.

Best of.

Yes, best of.

Best of.

So he

can be there at six o'clock with us.

Well, we're very excited.

So I hope you get over there to the Atwood tonight.

John and Gordy will be there too.

John and Gordy are going to be introducing the place, introducing the show.

So we're very excited about all of this tonight.

It's going to be a long day for us.

We're going to be there as well.

and poor Dominic.

All right, so let's finish up.

We've hung on to, thank goodness, Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils, Educated Educators Talk in Education with Busted Pencils on Saturdays at 6 a.m.

and 3 p.m.

Their podcast is also available at civicmedia.us all the time.

And on wmdx.com, as a matter of fact, wmdxradio.com.

So Tim, thanks for sticking around.

Yeah, it's you know, I appreciate being there.

I I actually I love doing this every Thursday morning you do Yeah, it's it's it's it's just fun to be able to you know talk and and share some of the things that are going on With busted pencils and or you know, John typically will

bring like, Tim, I just saw this, help me figure out what this means.

Exactly.

He

does a little

research.

He

prepares for

you.

You know, so we talk about those things that are said, you know, what is it that when an education type of issue comes up, you know, what's really being said?

And I think

That's what we try to do, you know, on Busted Pencils, as you said, Saturdays.

But, um, you know, the podcast drops Monday, Wednesday, Friday too, where we have, you know, Monday, we take it from a home room approach and a welcome to the week.

Uh, every Wednesday classes and session, we, you know, try to quote, teach a little bit Friday.

producer Jacob is amazing.

He's kind of taken over Fridays.

And Jacob interviews Johnny and me every Friday for producer's choice.

Nice.

Kind of surprises us.

And as he says, Tim and Johnny, thank you for agreeing to be guests on your own

show.

Way to go, Jacob, huh?

Yeah, don't try it.

Don't try it.

Yeah, it's, you know, so it's, it's been

a lot of fun and uh yeah we are now as jacob said the uh 12 busted days of christmas you know so it's it's good stuff but no saturday um in fact you know if you're out there uh we we do and i hinted at this um in the first segment um wisconsin examiner published a piece this week um that points out that uh education uh

in Wisconsin while literacy specifically the headline Wisconsin school literacy reports identify 36 or more than one third of students are at risk for not being able to read.

Tell me this.

Well, come on, Tim, I'm 60 years old.

I've been hearing this story for 50

years.

Well,

that's another good way to kind of look at it and going like

Haven't I heard this before?

Ten years ago, 20 years ago, at what point are these non-readers going to tank the world?

Because aren't they now officially in charge of things?

Yeah,

the ones who couldn't read when I was a kid.

Yeah, those guys.

But actually, that's a good thing.

A catastrophe story is typically

not really what's happening, but it gets us going, it gets us reading, it gets us talking, right?

And you say, so I mean, yeah, the world is about to fall apart, particularly when it comes to education.

Yeah, I said this in 1983, which is where this really, really started.

If anybody remembers, a nation at risk was published.

A

nation at risk said education in America is about to claim our

economic engines, everything.

Guess what?

In 1983, I was one of those kids that put us at risk.

And now at 59, did I cause the fall of America?

I blame you.

I

blame you, Tim.

Everything's your fault.

Tim Slecker busted pencils here them Saturdays at six and three and, uh, yeah, and the podcast.

So thank you, Tim.

Appreciate you being here.

John and Gordy.

This afternoon, in for them right now, I'm Catherine Lake and John Scott here too.

Good morning.

It's time

That's the way to start.

That's the way to start a morning.

I'm looking for the liners on this contest, John.

We don't have it, do we?

I got you.

You don't have it?

You have it?

Okay, good.

I'm Catherine Lake.

I'm sitting in the air chair.

John Scott is here.

He's sitting in an air chair.

Dominic is still producing.

Thank goodness.

There's something normal going on

here.

Tom's awesome.

Thank

goodness.

Hey, I'm blushing.

I'm blushing.

We're filling in for John and Gordy.

You are filling in for the afternoon.

Who's filling in for somebody that's going to happen next year?

I don't even know.

None of us know.

We're just trying to get along and give you what you need.

You know, the time, the temperature, some information, a chance to talk to some other people in your community, perhaps, if you want, 608-879-8255.

And time and temperature, right?

Weather.

It's four o'clock.

We lost four o'clock.

It's four degrees.

We lost a degree.

It was five earlier, was it not?

Yeah.

It's colder.

It's colder.

It's only going to get up to 14.

I'm sorry to tell you that, but it will be crystal clear today.

Lovely.

One of the most perfect days ever probably this winter fully sunny 14 degrees for a high tomorrow We'll get up to almost 30 probably apex that a little bit maybe a little snow on Saturday Probably in the evening overnight Sunday another crystal clear day 21 degrees.

That's our that's our future, but right now just four degrees in Madison and Oh my gosh, it's text to win

Yes,

it is.

We got a contest to do.

Oh, gosh, John, I'm going to need your help.

We need we need the deets.

We need all the I've got the word here, but you have all the details.

What is this text to win contest about?

Would you please help me?

We have something called the grown up gift list.

Things you can pick from.

So we're going to give you a keyword here in just a second.

And then what you're going to do is text it into us.

And we have winners that can get.

Up to $200 in cash.

Nice.

And then we have grand prizes, like how about a new snow blower?

Wouldn't

that be

fantastic?

So what you should do is download the free Civic Media app and then all throughout the day today, just like we're about to do right now, we're gonna give you a keyword and then you go.

You ready for it?

Let's go.

It's a synonym for fast.

It is the word brisk.

B-R-I-S-K brisk.

Very fast.

Brisk is the keyword.

For 7 a.m.

Yeah, I got the right one 7 a.m.

Right.

Yeah brisk.

Okay brisk.

We got the right one terrific text to win with WMDX

Thank you, Dominic.

Lovely music.

You're very happy.

Very uplifting music.

I love it.

I love it.

Well, thanks for tuning in.

I hope you stick with us now and in the future.

I know it's not John and Gordy's voice that you are hearing right now.

I hope that you will stick with us throughout this month.

We're going to be having a series of guest hosts to help John and Gordy get through until the next year.

And we're going to have a whole new wonderful lineup that we cannot wait to tell you about.

But in the meantime, John and I are going to take care of all this for you this morning.

We're participating in a great experiment.

Yeah, it is a great experiment.

How to talk to each other.

Yeah.

How to solve problems.

Thanksgiving for you, John Scott, was okay in that arena, yeah?

It was remarkable in its sobriety and lack of violence.

And lack of violence.

And

that couldn't be said for every family sitting around the Thanksgiving.

No.

No.

No, it was

great.

No, a lot of people probably had some issues.

But I'd like to think, you know, most of those got over last year.

You know, we're sort of rolling with it.

We've got four years with this president.

Let's just see what happens and go.

Well,

like a few minutes ago, you were talking with Tim, the educator about talking with his daughter.

People forget that imposing ones will.

over Turkey is probably not the best way to go.

And it's not enjoyable, and it's not fun, and it's stressful.

The art of conversing is to have empathy, to listen, to understand, and to see common ground.

Then everyone has a good time.

If you don't do it that way, no one's having a good

time.

No one's having a good time.

And the same could be said for being on the radio, not yelling at each other all the time.

And I got it, you don't, I understand it, you don't, that's not the way.

This most

intimate form of communication requires a level of communication which entertains and informs without being preachy, without being bossy, without being mean.

Exactly.

Now I would like to have gone back to our texts that came in.

on topics but of course we've got the keyword contest going now and I'm so thrilled to see everybody texting in the word brisk that I'm not going to bother trying to go back to the texts that came in but one of them was from Gordie Young talking about thrift stores because we mentioned that very early on.

Oh yeah he said Gordie from Gordie Young.

Yes.

Atomic antiques in Madison.

Atomic antiques.

He says it's the best big thrift store and it

beautiful stuff.

It is really beautiful stuff.

Now, I don't know if I'd call that a thrift store, Gordie Young.

I think that's more of a, as it's called, an antique store.

So they've already gotten all the shine back on the items.

And they're, like you said, they're gorgeous.

And so they're, they've got to make a little money on these things.

And well, they should thrift stores.

You know, I walked out, I went shopping with my sister this Thanksgiving, because she's a great shopper.

She knows what looks good on me and herself too.

So we went, it's brisk, not risk, by the way, B-R-I-S-K.

The keyword, someone just typed in risk.

Anyway, we went shopping and I came home with a bag densely filled, $48.

Who did

you get?

Two pairs of really nice slacks.

three sweaters 48 bucks.

Yeah.

Plus tax.

If it was that much, it was crazy cheap and good stuff.

That's the thing.

My sister's like, that's a good label.

Take that.

You know, I don't know what good labels are.

Any of that stuff.

But anyway, Gordy mentioned that atomic antiques.

And the reason I brought up thrift to begin with is something else entirely ready for this.

Osempic.

I read about Osempic.

And over the weekend, I was interested in it because my sister mentioned it too, um, as something she might want to try.