Guest host Matt Rothschild fills in for John and Gordy, diving into thick Madison fog and political fog. Legal expert Jim Santelle unpacks the dramatic dismissal of indictments against James Comey and Letitia James, citing Trump's attempts to manipulate justice. The conversation highlights the troubling implications of political interference in legal proceedings, as well as the exodus of DOJ attorneys under Trump's administration. Switching gears, Rothschild chats with Kathleen Deinlein of the Wings Raptor Center about rehabilitating majestic raptors and snowy owls. The episode wraps with Joy Harjo's poignant poem, reminding us of gratitude around the kitchen table.

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