Grocery Games and Classroom Conundrums (Hour 1)

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We're truly sorry.

Truly sorry.

Thanks for the big vote of competence again.

That's when she was a little crankier.

She goes through those cranky stages and wow, look out.

A few people had to clear out their offices because of that.

Hopefully she's not listening now.

She's probably not listening anymore.

She went back to sleep, I'm sure.

Now that we're

on in the

afternoon, catch all of the...

Mumbo jumbo later on.

Mumbo jumbo.

Is that what we do

now?

Yeah,

something like that.

You know, I woke up this morning.

I mean, we've been on the air a lot lately.

Yeah.

And I thought it was Friday.

Oh, great.

It's Friday.

Yeah.

Ready for the weekend.

Don't let down.

Oh, wait.

No, it's not Friday.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Getting there.

I know yesterday had the same feeling.

I did not know what day it was yesterday.

In fact, you even mentioned it on the air.

You had

to ask what day it was.

I know.

I've got calendars at home.

It's on my phone.

Well, I know it's just you go by a feeling most of the time.

Everybody kind of does, you know, their own body clock.

Well, I know now that we're doing afternoons on the network, you know, we were just here 12 hours ago, so it does get to be like, you know.

Yeah, my coffee's still warm, you know.

You

know, I'm kind of mad at myself.

We have in our freezer extra freezer downstairs We have a turkey in there.

Yeah, and it's been in there maybe a year almost and We're gonna thought out we're gonna have it this time.

I'm

maybe in a week.

Yeah, but

anyway, I always pick up a turkey

They always have a really good price on it.

Sometimes $0.99 at Costco.

It was $0.77 at Aldi.

I don't know what happened since because I haven't been to the store.

I have not been shopping.

Isn't that the craziest thing?

Same here.

Wow.

I know.

Usually after the show, don't you go to Woodbins?

No, no, no.

Only

very rarely now.

I just don't make it to the store.

Well, I know.

And doing the afternoons, I'm, you know,

On the way home, I'm like, it's just too easy to go through a fast food or something.

I don't want to cook.

I know, I know.

You know, I don't want to have to prepare anything.

How about you, Tom?

Do you go home?

Are you the cook in your place?

I am the cook in my place.

You and your roommate?

Yep, I am the cook.

I always, I recently actually just made tacos, made tacos yesterday.

Oh.

But actually, you are right.

I haven't, as of recent, fast food has been my number one, as of recently too.

Yeah.

I do fast food once in a while.

I try to go to a regular sit-down restaurant.

I've been trying some of the east side restaurants.

That's very cool.

There's a great Mexican restaurant over there.

Laredos.

Do you know where that one is?

Yeah.

Really good.

I haven't tried that.

Oh, it's an excellent place.

Oh, yeah.

And they have a Laredos

on the west side,

too,

on Whitney Square.

But I'm not sure.

I think it's Diller.

Yeah.

I'm trying to find more.

check out yeah yeah so you know just making it out and grocery shopping again it's therapeutic for me and that's why I live at Costco most of the time

right

but I haven't been there lately and I think they probably moved my furniture they miss you and they're like well I would

think he's

gone what did what did we do

to chase them out of our store.

Wasn't the greeter that you knew for years and years?

She's moved up the corporate ladder or something?

Yeah,

Kathy used to be at the door.

She changed jobs inside of Costco.

And Costco is the size of a city now.

So sometimes you don't run into these people

anymore.

Well, she's been a longtime fan.

Yes, yes.

Well,

do

you

guys go to

Aldi a lot?

Are you guys in Aldi?

No, I go to Aldi too, but I go to Aldi because I want to check out the German desserts that they usually have in the frozen food section.

Man, those are incredible.

I told you before, that is the place to go for the best German desserts.

ever because it's not super sweet chocolate.

It's just kind of a bittersweet chocolate and they don't use a lot of frosting.

They actually use mousse instead.

Honestly, it's just the best stuff ever.

And their egg rolls are excellent.

Oh, yeah.

We've talked about that before.

I don't know where they get those.

Those are huge egg rolls.

I know.

They're gorgeous.

Really good, yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

And I can't find them anywhere else, just Aldi.

And just near...

or just above on the shelves above it, they have these great easy to heat up tie dishes

as

well.

They've got ribs, they've got shredded pork,

they've

got a lot of different things in these packages.

They're about five or six dollars a piece, but you warm those babies up and they're really, really delicious.

We got a tie, a coconut tie.

dish and it's really good it's got chicken and the sauce in it but you want a little bit more than that so what I do is I go out and I buy a bunch of fresh basil yeah and then I chop up that basil and I sprinkle it all over this dish and I mean basil and Thai coconut sauce is just to die absolutely fantastic so you know I mean

You just got to do it the right way and use some of the The immediate the fast food so to speak yeah at in your kitchen and and you'll really really enjoy it and so that's another episode of just ask John Do you

go to Trader Joe's ever?

I've never been to Trader

Joe's me either.

Yeah, I don't know I hear good things about it, but I've never I know

I know it's on Monroe Street.

Oh, yeah, okay

and

Yeah,

I haven't been

there.

I don't know if there's one on the east side at all.

I know my girlfriend goes there and she loves Trader Joe's.

That's her number one spot that she goes because she lives downtown and it's the best place to go grocery shopping when you're downtown.

She goes

to Monroe Street?

Yes.

And it's got great prices and they have their own kind of store brand food as well, but I just haven't been there.

Brian from Madison detects in

Gorgeous.

Egg Rolls Gorgeous?

But the egg rolls are pretty good.

Yeah, no, I mean, if you get them in those packages, you know, in the frozen food section anywhere, they're short, they're small, they're almost all crust.

There's hardly any ingredients in them, but not at all, wow.

And they have pork and chicken, just in case you're thinking about stopping by some.

Yeah,

making us all hungry.

I'm waiting for that paycheck to roll in

now.

Okay.

All right.

Weather for today, it's kind of foggy out there this morning.

Did you notice that driving in on the west side?

No, actually.

A lot on the east side.

Nope.

Well, it's 41 degrees, kind of cloudy.

We might get just a little bit of drizzle mixed in with the fog and highs about 47 for today.

Tim Slecker is going to join us in a little while from Busted Pencils talking about education.

And of course, Jim Santel will be in in our seven o'clock hour.

Yeah.

I'm a...

What?

I'm looking at the message from Catherine there.

Oh, what?

It's the oh my god message.

I don't know

what that was.

Well, it's initially, I think, when we started off saying that you got to look out for.

And say that she wasn't listening, but turns

out she was listening.

See?

I kind of like the theme song.

Her theme song.

Oh, what?

Her jingle?

Yes.

I think, can we hear that?

You

know, you might be of the Mary Tyler Moore theme, you know.

It does, yes.

You

almost want to see Catherine Thor head up in the air.

Okay.

Well, okay.

Okay.

We were talking to just before we went on the air about William Shatner.

Right.

And his role in Boston Legal, which is one of the best shows ever.

If you can see reruns of Boston Legal, you have to watch William Shatner's character, Denny Crane.

Denny Crane.

Denny Crane.

And

James Spader.

Yeah, Spader was the greatest liberal ever in court.

I

know.

But, you know, Denny would make a profound statement, and then he

Followed up with the tag, Denny Crane.

It's just a great show.

Yeah, a great bit

too.

We have Catherine Lake.

We played her theme, I guess, you know.

She has to come up behind the curtain.

Hey,

Catherine.

Good

morning.

Was that not an invitation?

Oh, it is.

It's a little embarrassing, but I think I can't ignore it.

I mean, I'm going to go back first.

Well, Danny Crane is hilarious.

The best show I have ever seen is Boston

Legal.

I waited for them to hit that back porch every night.

and figure it all out, and they're so sweet.

I know the cigars at the end of the show, or they just kind

of... Oh, my God.

And you found some interesting stuff out during those conversations.

That's what was so interesting about that final comment at the end of the shows.

Wow.

Yeah.

Every time.

And, you know, you not going to Trader Joe's.

That's really why I'm calling.

What the ever-loving... I'm never going to believe John Peterson again.

I know you think

about grocery stores if you don't include Trader Joe's

I think you're right.

I feel bad about it.

I have always felt bad about not make it to destroy your Joe's

Me to a TJ

and you know parking isn't so bad.

I'm in restreet either So I mean you can just pull up and park a lot of parking spaces on yeah, you know I know I know I have

to take an

excursion and go there Now I'll have to go shopping again

We're taking you to TJ's.

We're taking you there for

your own good.

Yes.

Let's all go.

All right, TJ's.

All right.

Well,

that's how they say it.

Good

idea.

Yeah.

All right,

Catherine.

Thank you for checking

in.

Yeah.

Good morning.

Yeah.

Do we have an outro for her?

We don't have an outro yet, but, you know, we'll make one.

Yeah.

You want to beat yourself

with the camera?

I

want one

of those.

Can I have one of those?

OK, all right.

I will endeavor to do that.

Linda from Middleton loves Aldi's.

We're talking Aldi's or Aldi.

I

call

it Aldi's.

I only every once in a while say the actual name Aldi.

But it doesn't sound right.

It doesn't make any sense.

You have to really have an

Osuna.

So

thank you Linda.

She also Linda also says go to Trader Joe's Park

under the store.

You can do that.

Yes, yeah And also Linda mentioned newsroom was her favorite news TV series which was on HBO I believe okay, all right

or Max, I can't remember those.

But he was, that was actually one of the great shows ever.

And Jeff Daniels was in that.

He was

the

conservative host.

Right.

Who didn't sound very conservative most of the time.

And Mark from Pray to Sex says, how about the Willy Street Co-op, three convenient locations in Madison?

Oh yeah, yeah, I

love going there.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah place.

I mean, yeah during the summer and they have all these different kind of brats Mm-hmm homemade brats that they make they're just fantastic stuff and plus you can you know, they have fresh Takeout food that you can go through right which I've never done, but it all looks so good

Okay, can we stop talking about food for

a while?

Stomach is growling now.

We've been eating them three days.

We

don't have time to eat.

We just do the radio shows all the

time.

Right.

Well, we're just getting started on a Thursday morning and we're coming back in about 15 minutes.

Tim Slecker will join us from Busted Pencils talking about education and Jim Santel in our seven o'clock hour.

It's John Peterson and Gordon Young along with our producer Dominic Lee.

Yeah.

We'll be right back after this.

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All right,

Harry Beller worked for Jeffrey Epstein for 22 years as his personal accountant.

He's got a lot of receipts, a lot of records, and Congress now wants to look at those receipts and records.

So we'll see what comes from that.

More names, more indictments, who knows, right?

More incidents

being revealed, yeah.

So I don't know.

Well, how convenient.

Was it that he took his own life?

Did he?

Did he really?

It doesn't seem like.

Yeah, this seems like a hit, actually.

Professional hit.

Yeah.

Organized by somebody inside.

Obviously, it has to be from inside.

Yeah.

Well, but I'm starting to become a conspiracy theorist as well.

I've rubbing shoulders with the best of them We have CJ and my mega friend in Milwaukee and

on

their conspiracies I'm starting to believe in these things, but this is an accountant.

Yeah, this is an actual account here.

He has actual

receipts.

He does.

So yes,

follow the money.

Yeah, that's the deal.

And

that's what

they said in Watergate, you

know, yeah, yeah

And Congressional investigators are interested in how Epstein made and spent his money and whether banks ignored red flags that should have been alerted to sex trafficking.

So now they're getting Bellar in to testify one of these days.

Yeah.

I think we're going to hear a lot more about it now.

Harry

Bellar.

Yeah.

Harry Bellar.

Harry Bellar.

Are you going to start doing that with John Peters?

John Peters.

John Peters.

Drop the mic.

One of those kind of things.

Exclamation.

I like it.

John Peters.

Not a bad idea.

But no one's going to know the reference.

No one's going to know that.

So that's one story that I kind of tagged here.

Here's another one.

It's called stagflation.

This is starting to rear its ugly head again because inflation is happening, but at a very slow rate when that happens and jobs are lost and prices are just escalating just a little.

then it's really stagflation.

And that's something that is almost impossible to get out of right away.

It's a very tough situation to be in.

And I think we could all use that $2,000 tariff bonus check in the mail,

right?

It doesn't sound like that's actually gonna happen, but

yeah,

that would be nice, a little Christmas present.

Yeah,

I mean, Scott Besson does not really

Into it.

He doesn't understand it.

Well, you're getting there with a tax code.

What do you guys?

You don't need a two thousand dollar tariff check in the mail.

Do you?

And you know Trump is hung up on that thing he wants that

You know Rand Paul doesn't want it.

Yeah, he says it's why well, it's dumb Why would we do that?

Yeah, yeah, but Yeah, I got a story a little bit later on in there.

Okay a few things coming up here on the show.

Mm-hmm

And apparently there's a rift that's formed between Mike, who's the house guy?

Mike

Johnson.

Thank you.

Mike Johnson and John Boone in the Senate.

They

were not expecting them to just completely go along on the Epstein files being released.

They expected the Senate would,

you know,

step in and back

away and give Trump a little bit of

help in slowing it down.

It's hard to do when the entire house votes for it, except for one person.

I mean, when that happens, you know that there is an avalanche you can't avoid.

And so they did repeal the ability for those senators to sue the government for $50,000 apiece.

They did away with that.

It was a very special session and did away with that.

That is outrageous.

And when they find out who added that, I can't wait to talk about that person, that individual, and what their point was and what they were getting at.

Now,

here's an interesting comment from Mark in Prairie to Sack.

Donald Trump's grandfather, he says, trafficked women so it's in his jeans.

Wow.

It's in Donald Trump's.

I didn't know that.

I didn't know that.

Yeah.

His

father was kind of.

A really bad landlord,

right?

Yeah,

landlord.

We have questionable tactics.

All the time.

Runs in the family.

It does.

It does.

And, you know, when he met Roy Cohn, you know, and if you watch the movie The Apprentice, it was, but that's an eye-opener.

And that's a really good movie.

There have been a lot of good political movies that have come out.

I haven't seen The Apprentice movie.

Yeah.

What if that's still out there somewhere?

I don't know.

Well,

it probably is someplace.

Yeah, in high school, I had to actually watch it for a class.

I was forced to watch The Apprentice, but I'm glad I did because it was really good.

Well, are you talking about

the TV show or the movie?

The Apprentice, the movie is different from the TV

show.

The movie is based on how Trump became...

even more radicalized.

And Roy Cohn really set him on this weird course he's on right now.

And right now it's like 10 times what Roy Cohn was, and he was ruthless.

He was.

And Trump, again, is calling for Jimmy Kimmel to be pulled off the air.

I don't know what the latest

deal is on that, but what is happening?

He makes his demands.

Almost every day, doesn't he?

Okay, it's 629.

And when we come back, we'll check in with Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils, educated educators talking about education.

It's coming up on Johnny Gordy, WMDX.

So much

for

that.

That didn't work did it.

It was worth a try.

Yeah, yeah.

This

is John and Gordy in the morning.

And it's kind of another cloudy, I don't know,

misty kind of day.

And there's some fog out there, too, in the mix.

41 degrees currently, highs in the mid to upper 40s.

Got a London fog in the area for the last three or four days.

That's right.

Yeah, looking outside our window here, right over State Street.

Streets are a little bit damp, so

I

think I

should.

It should move the portable shower away from the window.

You know, Gordon and I are living here in the studio.

Well, I don't know.

I think it's kind

of nice to

happen.

Well, we have Tim Slecker in the line.

Yeah.

Busted pencils.

Yeah.

I don't know.

You guys, you know.

Talking about the shower that you brought there.

Yeah.

And then you're like everybody's, you know, like angry with us.

And I said, you know, actually, I did a little investigating.

They're like, look, we don't really care about the shower.

It's the fact that they didn't bring a curtain.

I don't

know why they have a problem

with that.

Oh, oh, yeah.

Oh, man, I forgot about the curtain part.

They're like, shower away, but please.

And it's in our window.

Right.

Everybody

can see that from State Street.

My God.

You know, you know how that before morning coffee, it is not something that people want to witness.

Or even after they have the morning.

Actually, yeah, thinking about it, it's going like nobody ever needs to see that.

That's right.

That's right.

But, you know, we

try to live here now, and some of the food is not as appetizing.

You know, we have bags of popcorn.

I guess chips.

Yeah.

It's not great.

A couple of granola bars.

It's kind of like prison watch.

Supervise these guys, won't you?

I thought you guys were up, you know, watching those YouTube, you know, in between ads where they're, you know, selling the, you know, 1,000 pounds of survival food.

That's right.

You see those all the time.

Yeah, those are great.

I mean, somebody told me about those.

I've

never...

Yes,

well, they're on.

And I'm building my shelter next to my home, so I should be just fine.

I'm buying a whole set of drones now, too, because I understand that's the way you do warfare these days.

Really?

You're going to have your own drones.

Oh, by the way, I stand corrected.

Scott corrected me on the ability of the senators to sue.

I said 50,000.

He mentions 500,000, which...

which was outrageous as well, but of course they repealed that overnight,

so that's no

longer an issue.

All right, let's get to the big issue, and that is something that happened right here in Wisconsin.

They want professors, they want the UW system to increase the time that they spend.

Why don't you explain it?

I'm not quite sure how to explain it.

Well, you know We've yeah, check out our podcast from yes.

Yes, you want to break it down even more and and actually too will even spend a little bit Coming up on Friday's producers choice breaking this down because it's one of those things that can be Misleading misunderstanding because it comes across as

the UW faculty, all of them, you know, everywhere, not just UW Madison, are now finally getting what's been coming to them.

And that is that the legislature has mandated that they teach a full 12 hours.

Yeah,

and a

lot of people don't know what that means exactly and that's the whole point I think they got away with this or at least they they at least presented it as a possibility in the UW system here and the governor has to approve something like this but it's outrageous to even think about something like this break it down because I mean this is per semester correct

well yeah you know and so we said the first part of this is is trying to to acknowledge and understand that

this really is just again understanding how to actually read what the news really is because the communication comes across I think most people you know I'm busy I'm I just was offended looking up it's a state street and I saw things that I shouldn't

You know on my way, I picked up the cap cap times and I saw you know UW professors being forced to work 12 hours and I was like 12 hours I work 40 hours, right, you know my god That's how they're presenting it.

That's how they want to make

people think

That's all they're being forced to do is 12 hours and oh my god Look at the headlines the UW faculty are blocking

at the idea of working 12 hours a week.

No, that's not what it says.

It's like, you got to understand what it means to work at a university.

It's 12 credit hours of teaching, which amounts to, for anybody who has some understanding of higher education, that's, you know,

four courses, four, three credit courses, you must teach over a semester, which is about 15 weeks.

And each of those, quote, three hour courses, then there's one course counts for three hours, another course counts for three hours, another course counts for three hours, and another course counts for three hours.

So that's four courses to teach.

And imagine this.

during a week for 15 weeks.

So that means that, you know, there are 12 hours, you know, and people are like going, I like, I still, I don't understand why 12 credit hours.

And that's probably the most misleading thing to point point out there is this to look, you know, to kind of tie this to some sense of like a

a 40-hour work week because that's what people use kind of as their understanding of work, right?

And so this really doesn't work like this.

And so what this really is is saying that actually for faculty, we've always been under some form of saying, you know, we have a 12 credit hour

Workweek and what that could mean is is that I might teach two classes at three credits that counts for six hours I might have another three hours worth of work conducting research And I might have another three hours worth of work being out doing service in the community Doing things like that and and actually when you

put that together across a week, you'll find that most faculty are working 50 to 60 hours a week within what we call 12 credit hours.

It's a little bit complicated.

What's really happening in this article is actually saying is the legislature is mandating that every faculty member teach.

12 credit hours.

And then what's the rub here is saying, but if I do that, when am I going to do my research?

When am I going to give my service to the community?

Because if I'm teaching 12 credit hours,

That's my full 40 to 60 hour workload for the week right there.

And so this doesn't acknowledge that actually some faculty on some campuses might only be teaching six hours or two courses.

And then also then, you know, looking into things such as maybe how to cure brain

cancer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, something more important.

And so and so what the legislature is doing is is actually saying we would like the production of knowledge to stop.

Yes,

that's exactly.

Yeah.

And you know, us small government Republicans in the Wisconsin legislature, we really don't believe in meddling.

in professionals and other people's expertise.

Oh wait, that's exactly what they're doing.

We legislators, you know, who made our fortune selling popcorn, I know better what the workload should be for a faculty member.

Yeah, that Robin Voss, he knows how to make popcorn.

but this this doesn't work exactly and you know the UW is the economic engine of Wisconsin

yeah I mean you know just use UW Madison campus right understanding the difference of the different types of institution it is a research one institution in other words the taxpayers acknowledge and in fact

the whole reason for its existence is to produce incredible amounts of research.

Faculty are hired to come to the University of Wisconsin-Madison because of their research expertise.

We as a community, as a state, look to the UW-Wisconsin-Madison

for those breakthrough understandings, for that cutting edge types of knowledge that propel and are actually benefit humankind, humanity.

And so this actually is the legislature getting involved in actually mandating something that the UW Madison campus and the Milwaukee campuses actually were

founded and required to do, which is be the engine of knowledge creation and cutting edge research in the state of Wisconsin.

And if this law is enforced verbatim, as it says, you're going to have full time faculty who used to have a commitment to conducting research.

they're not going to be able to do that research.

So I think when you see the University of Wisconsin faculty balk at this, understand what they're balking at.

They're acknowledging that if this is applied straight across the board,

This truly then says that all of that other work that faculty do, such as research, such as giving back to the community, giving their expertise, all that has to go away.

And is that really what the state of Wisconsin wants?

Is that?

Some people might say yes, but acknowledging that.

So you're saying that all faculty

No, no.

Actually, there are faculty who do teach 12 credit hours because that's their contract.

They were hired to do that.

And they're not balking because that was already their work requirement.

So anyway, guess what?

It's never as simple as we would.

sometimes think well

the legislature has stepped in a number of times controlling what some of the curriculum would be and in this case now they're going to actually interfere with the patents that are so so needed in this state you know for the UW system to operate you know on its own and make its own money with the patents so this will interfere with that as well and they'll need more of course funding later on somewhere along the way and then

the legislature will say, well, we've given you funding.

What's going on?

Right?

So it just keeps getting worse and worse.

And again, you know, being close to looking, reading closely, it's like, oh, look, we gave you a lot of money.

I always say it's like, be careful because there are probably some kind of dastardly strings attached.

And here it is.

It's like, we're giving you a ton of money.

But by getting this money, you're going to do what we say.

It's an issue.

Talking with Dr. Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils, getting some phone calls here too.

You can call in and get in on this, 608-879-8255.

Back with more after this on John and Gordy in the

morning.

This is Johnny Gordy in the morning at the controls and our special guest Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils is with us.

We're talking about what has happened in the legislature, how they're trying to control what professors and what...

Right.

Yeah, well, because it's gone on way too long that professors have only been working 12-hour work weeks.

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

They got to start

doing more

work.

Here's the thing to you.

It's funny, but this is a bipartisan, largely sometimes, issue because

I've seen quote progressive Democrats also kind of get behind legislation like this and it just you know you start to go it's like what what's what's happening and and it's like we don't know or the reality is is that some form of holding people accountable is

You know it gets you elected.

Yeah, no matter what party, you know, and so if you can find somebody out there and point out how you're Stopping them from being lazy.

That's a winner and and this is where it's just like, okay

Yeah, there are definitely lazy bad apples everywhere.

Sure.

But kind of remember that when you fully endorse, quote, holding people accountable, the ramifications are is that you're probably going to lose some incredibly talented important things in this whole rush for mass.

accountability that really doesn't understand the complexity of the work anybody does.

We have a question from Catherine in Madison.

Tim, can the UW Hire faculty for two part-time jobs, one as instructor and one as researcher?

I mean, you know, the system can

Divvy out monies in different ways to make that decision.

But I mean, you know hiring part-time faculty is I would say more often than not what will happen is is that a full-time faculty member Comes in say with a with a research grant and part of that research money can then be used to hire an adjunct faculty member to teach part of the course load of that full-time faculty member so they can be committed to the research that

that this grant brought in.

So again, right?

I understand.

So I'm required to teach 12 credits.

I just scored a $1.5 million NSF grant.

I

can now give some of that money to administration to buy part-time instructors so I have time to do the research.

I see.

Got a couple of callers on the line here.

Let's first go to Mark in the sack.

Mark, go ahead with your question.

Yeah, can you

hear

me today?

Yes, yes.

Yeah, you talked about patents, and this was apparently a punch article back from 1899.

I had to look it up because it would just stir to memory that there was an article in punch that said everything that we could close down or shut down the patent office because everything that could be invented, it could be invented.

And I think maybe that's what these Republicans think.

It hasn't been there that we don't need to do any more thinking and we don't need any more inventing because

You know, that's all been done.

Exactly.

And as far as Robin Voss, he's probably been shooting blanks all these years because he's never had a wife who's had been pregnant and understand that women actually need some time to recover after delivering a baby.

Exactly, yes.

That's the problem, and that's why he keeps voting it down.

He just doesn't understand that.

Okay,

let's

go to, do we have the intro?

Here we go.

All

right, here we go.

Go ahead and hit it.

All right, we love this.

Okay.

Catherine?

Okay.

This is Catherine.

Oh, it's another one.

It's a different one here.

She's a woman

with

all the answers.

Let's go to Catherine.

Now you're just making fun of me.

Now you're just mocking.

Now that's too far.

Yeah.

I pushed

it too far.

I'm just the quickest, quickest.

comparison for Tim Slecker because he understands how artists, musicians live.

The San Francisco Symphony went on strike because they weren't making enough money and they said, well, they only play one concert every month and they rehearsed for two hours a day.

Plus the four hours they practice on their own and the seven students they provide to your community to learn music.

I mean, it's the same thing.

Same thing.

Other rings.

Yes.

Good point.

Well, yeah, I mean, that's a good, that is, it's a great point.

It's, it's, you know, again, not truly understanding.

And in fact, I would say faculty, particularly in the arts, you know, so music faculty like that, you know, they're teaching and they're, you know, like, well, they don't do research.

No, but they're actually producing more music that, you know, our culture hopefully seems to value evolving artistry.

And so, yes, guess what?

A musician might be getting paid to make music, God forbid.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

That's what it

goes.

Well, Tim, always good to check in with you.

What's coming up on the next podcast

on busted pencils?

Well, I would say, you know, hang out for Saturday for sure.

The one, you know, one hour, you know, all the civic media radio stations.

You know, we've got a cruise through the education news.

Linda McMahon took to USA Today to explain

why she knows that she didn't really need this job because it's very obvious that, you know, closing the Department of Education, um, during the government shutdown, kids continued to go to school, which is evidence, evidence of why you don't need a Department of Education.

Wow.

She proved it, didn't she?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, and that whole bunches of things.

And hey,

Six, seven.

Six, seven.

We go

after six, seven.

Going to go deep on that.

All right.

Thank you,

Tim.

Very good.

Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils.

Check out the podcast at civicmedia.us.

We're back in our seven o'clock hour with Jim Santel and much more on John and Gordy in the morning.

It's the John and Gordy show.

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Wouldn't you like to know weather, boy?

You're pretty high on fire, aren't you?

What kind of kick are you on, son?

You're

no

good bastard.

Your show

sucks.

What made me think this was a good day to stop drinking?

What if you want coffee?

And coffee.

Coffee.

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They want us about people

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you.

What a

load of crap.

Thank you, sir.

May I have another?

We'll

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it live.

And

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On 92.7 FM, WMDX.

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boys.

All right.

Well,

what an introduction.

Hey, um, happy Thursday.

Yeah.

So much going on.

It's John and Gordy, along with our producer, Dominic Lee.

We have some clouds out there, some fog and drizzle.

It's 41 degrees highs in the mid to upper forties for today.

So, you know, I, I'm just a little frustrated, uh, you know, with what's going on with the Epstein files.

I mean, it really wire.

I'm just so tired of talking about this, you know.

I would just, you know, give these people their day.

All right, you know give the victims some consideration something anything and we have the most brutal individual the most incompetent individual as as the AJ I mean seriously, you know Pam Bondi I know is is just an extension arm of Trump and it's just outrageous and it's so frustrating to watch this now She says we will follow the law.

That's

what she says

She's gonna hold up the Epstein files.

Whatever she feels like she wants to hold up maybe a few files that have Trump's

name in them, gee, you think.

It just drives you crazy.

And by the way, I don't even think it's a law that they could release these papers, but it's just tradition that the Justice Department doesn't usually allow this stuff to be released.

But it's not a law.

I don't believe it's a law.

I'm just saying, I'm not sure.

I think

when

she's frustrated that says

we're going to follow the law, I think that's what she says when she doesn't know what else she's supposed to say.

Yeah, I think that kind of just leaves the door open for whatever.

Whatever tactics they want to do

she appears in front of the press and just riffs and she thinks everybody's just gonna sit there and believe what you're saying Let's uh, let's queue up cut 138 here, and this is I mean people are laughing at this this is one about information Yes, this is just way over the top way over the top.

Let's just

listen to this.

This is

good

earlier this year saying that the files would not release, mentioned the fact that the review of the documents and the evidence did not suggest that any additional investigation of third parties was warranted.

What changed since then that you launched this investigation?

Information that has come for information.

There's information that new information, additional information.

And again, we will continue to follow the law.

to investigate any leads, if there are any victims, we encourage all victims to come forward, and we will continue to provide maximum transparency under the law.

No, you won't.

Do you have any

more information about the information?

And please, any more victims, just step up.

I mean, we'd love to hear from you and ignore you.

Let's

go to the phones.

Joe is on the line.

Joe good morning.

Here we are here.

We are with Epstein yet again and why not I mean Why not because details after details keep emerging emerging or might we say information?

Wasn't that a tap?

Oh my gosh, right?

It was like oh information.

Oh, yeah information.

Yeah information.

That's what I meant to say Yeah,

yeah, yeah from the woman who said the files are on my desk and then said whoops, I don't know where they went,

you know, right?

I wanted to add just two little items, building on the possibilities of conspiracy, because why not?

A couple of little things.

First off, there was apparently, after Jeffrey Epstein died, there was a massive, two days after he died, there was a huge FBI raid on his private island in the Caribbean, and a swarm of federal agents was seen planning out across Little Saint James in golf carts, which I really love that image.

And there was a quote from a woman who was an owner of Salty Dog, a day sales.

And she said, we were just trying to look at pretty fish and swim with the turtles.

And here we are in the middle of an FBI raid.

But

then there was a fire on Jeffrey Epstein's private island in a big, big, big fire.

You can find details about this if you just keep digging.

But at any rate, the line that I love from this, because there's a very big fire, it says, the cause of the fire is unknown, but some are speculating that it may have been the result of a relatively small magnitude earthquake that struck just off the coast.

Others say it was intentionally created to destroy evidence.

You decide.

Earthquake or intentional.

You

decide.

Unbelievable.

The

earthquake

excuse.

Remember the

earthquake

excuse.

Yes, yes.

It's mysterious.

We'll try to bring that up as a possibility almost in whatever they reveal about the Epstein files.

My God.

Thank you, Joe, for that.

There is a story that I wanted to get to with Tim Slecker, and this is Code 137, that I thought was extremely important.

And here we are.

This administration thinks they're creating jobs.

They think they're doing really well for the economy, and that they're going to make the future even more difficult to have nurses.

and teachers.

So I wanted Tim, we'll actually talk to Tim this afternoon at about 235, right?

So we'll actually run this cut for him so we can have some input on it.

But let's listen to it right now.

All right, let's listen.

So I don't like to do this, but did you guys know that the Department of Education has now taken nursing completely out of a professional degree program?

So if the healthcare system isn't broken enough,

and there's not already a shortage of nursing.

By doing this, congratulations, you're going to be short a million other nurses.

By not giving nurses the same amount of reimbursement or like educational loans that you do for other practices that are included in this, like MDs, veterinarians, chiropractors, podiatrists, people aren't going to go to school.

So apparently my doctorate that I busted my tushy for is not going to be considered a

professional degree.

Cool.

Oh, and they also did this to teachers too.

So basically getting your doctorate for nursing or education is now going to be a waste.

So your ER wait times is going to go up.

You want your medication?

Good luck finding a nurse.

You want someone to spend extra time with your kid because they need to be tutored?

Good luck finding that higher level of education.

Bravo.

And that's what's happening.

There are so many small things, little things like this, which are huge things, but they're going on behind the scenes, not a lot of people are finding out about it.

And we try to bring it to you here on the program just so you know that it's not just all these celebratory situations that Trump.

Puts together or their department heads put together The behind the scenes they are just destroying everything left and right taking it all apart and saying we'll all find out but at a later

date when it's too late mm-hmm

If you want to chime in, you can give us a call, 608-879-8255, or get in touch with us on the Civic Media app, free to download and

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Okay, well, this is a real unusual combination of individuals.

It's represented in Birchette and Jayapal.

All right, they're together, together, finally.

at last.

What was this all about?

Oh, this was big.

They want to ban stock trading in Congress.

They want

to put an end to it.

Yes.

And Birchette.

Birchette.

No, perchette.

That's it.

The emphasis is on

just

one.

It's just one syllable.

Perchette.

Tim Perchette is one of those guys, I said it wrong again.

You want to say it the right way, but I can't.

What he says is just unbelievable.

It's a long little diatribe, but it is entertaining as hell.

So let's just listen to this.

Everybody talks about this place being a dadgum swamp.

It's not a swamp.

Swamp is something cool God created.

It filters water, animal life, lives and flourishes around it.

This is a sewer.

This is created by man and it needs to stop.

You know, for years Congress has been using hard work in American taxpayers money to get rich.

Dadgum, it's got to stop.

America knows what the heck's going on.

Everybody wants to knock Pelosi.

Heck, she's not even in the top 10.

Get on that unusual whale site.

This is pathetic, folks.

We all know what's going on.

Congress knows what the hell is going on and it needs to stop.

This body has been rich in itself and the taxpayers done for two deadgum long and it's got to stop.

This place is crooked as a dog's leg and it needs to stop.

America knows what's going on.