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We're truly sorry.
Oh, yes.
Welcome to another big show.
WMDX 92.7, John and Gordy.
Happy Monday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a, you know, it's a very cool morning, but no frost on the car windows, which is something I expected.
And I was starting to think, oh no, I don't know if I have the scrapers in the cars or not.
You know, maybe one car has two of them.
So.
I started worrying about that.
Did you
have any?
The world was collapsing, you know, we're sliding into fascism and I'm worried about having two scrapers in my car.
Was there frost on the window?
No.
No frost on the window.
Well, I know, but I was worried about it.
I was thinking, oh my God, what am I going to do this morning?
Borrowing worry again.
Into one car?
Oh, well, anyway, I took the space car in today.
You did.
Yeah.
Cool.
Yeah, your boys let you drive it again
every once in a while Nice, you know my my younger senator takes it to work sometimes and the work is like two blocks away You know, so we don't have the space car for the entire day because he goes two blocks away with the space car so You know, I mean I walk to work.
I guess it would be tough, huh?
He
doesn't want.
Well, it would.
You know, he's kind of dressed up in that goofy outfit, you know.
Restaurant wear.
Okay.
Not exactly the style you want to be seen walking down the street in.
Really?
Yeah.
Is he in a costume or something?
Yes.
A
mascot?
Kind of a host costume.
Oh, okay.
When
I worked at Jimmy John's I was also in a full outfit, and yeah, I just didn't like I didn't like wearing.
Yeah, you don't want to see you
don't want
to be seen as soon as I left that I burned those those Jimmy John's outfits
Do you have a good weekend
there, Dominic Lee?
I did, and I actually have a story to tell you guys.
Oh my God, really?
Really.
What happened?
So Friday, I went to a Madison Capitals game, which is hockey team, and I actually was able to go out onto the ice during one of the periods, during like the half-time periods, to do a challenge with my roommate.
So I was out on the ice, people were cheering my name, literally, they were cheering my
name.
Wow.
And what we had to do was bring a wheelbarrow filled with nothing to one end of the ice.
to the other, and then that's it, and then we were escorted off the ice.
Did you win?
I mean, was there something to win?
What did you win?
Nothing, I just won just... The
prestige of the applause.
Exactly.
I want to know what prompted you to get out there.
and compete with your friend.
How did that all transpire?
Did you put your name into some kind of bucket and they pulled your names out or what
happened?
I got forced to do it by my roommate.
My roommate's girlfriend's friend works there.
And she says, oh, you know, come along and let's do this challenge.
And at first I was like, no, I don't want to do that.
And then it turns out that I was forced to.
And, you know, I feel like that happens a lot with me.
I got to start putting my foot down.
So wait a minute.
What was in the wheelbarrow?
Was there
something in the wheelbarrow?
Nothing in the wheelbarrow.
Nothing.
It was super light so it was super easy, but man I almost slipped like four times running down because I was wearing my shoes I wasn't wearing ice skates or anything.
I was given a helmet and and that's it
And balancing on the wheelbarrow, right?
Yes.
To some degree.
To some degree, correct.
Yes.
And then I got escorted off, and that's all it was.
Yeah.
No big...
It's pretty exciting.
Gold cup or anything like that.
No, nothing gold.
Not a
certificate or anything.
No crown, no anything.
Well, it's pretty good.
You didn't slide or anything like that.
Stayed up, yeah.
Well, that's fantastic.
Well, see, you know, all that practice, line dancing, helped you...
Maintain your balance on the
godline dancing in a month.
I'm done.
I think it's cornered in all this stuff
You're
right.
You got to put your foot down.
That's how we got drafted onto this show all of a sudden just inherited it We are two years later.
Yeah, okay two years later.
Yeah
Oh, yeah, the show coming up this afternoon.
Oh, that's
right.
Yes.
Our new shift.
Yes.
Yes.
From two until five.
That's right.
On the Civic Media Radio Network in the afternoon.
And that's, it's going to be a turnaround here for a few days.
What's going to be tough
afternoon, morning, afternoon.
They've set up some bunk beds for us in one of the offices, which is nice.
Little place to go.
Yeah.
What?
Oh, this screen is not working down.
Just so you know.
Okay, who do we have on the line?
We
have Matt from Middleton.
Matt from Middleton.
Good morning to you.
How you
doing?
Hi, Matt.
Morning, guys.
This Epstein stuff is just fascinating, but overly depressing overall because I remember when I was a teenager and learning about the Rothschild and the Manchurian candidate and Nixon and the mafia in Vietnam and
And I saw a thing with a professor recently that kind of stated the obvious that we all kind of knew in the back of our heads, but Epstein is kind of showing us is that the smoking man and then, you know, what was it 13 white men in suits and the ex files that kind of ran the world.
Yes,
yes.
The
guy with the cigarette.
And this professor said that the real money in the world.
That creates more currency for the banks the systems Beyond products is the drugs the blackmail the human trafficking the slavery trade We have slavery here in the u.s.
With the private prisons, which is highly under reported.
Yes, I know
yes,
and it's really dark
Yeah,
so.
But I do think any change will come out of this, or you think they'll just bury it and keep going on ruining the planet?
Well,
I don't know.
You know, the Epstein thing is, you know, it's back and forth now.
You know, I heard reports that the Senate obviously is wondering whether they're going to approve.
releasing the Epstein files.
I've heard that Trump is saying, yes,
now
you should release the Epstein files.
Of course, you know, I think that's just a diversion because of the investigation now that he put in place on Clinton and everybody else that are part of the Epstein files, that might preclude the FBI from releasing them.
So, you know, he's off the hook.
If he says, yeah, yeah, release them, go ahead.
And then, of course, the FBI steps in.
Cash Patel says, no, we better not.
We've got an investigation.
We can't
let those files
out.
See, it's just back and forth, this con game that's going on here.
I'm just waiting for it to drop today.
We'll find out.
All right.
Matt, thanks for
that call.
Yeah, thanks for reminding us of the smoking man, the guy with the cigarette in X-Files.
Do you remember, did you ever watch X-Files?
I watched a little bit of it.
I wasn't hooked on it.
That guy was pretty wild.
Yeah.
I only watched it every once in a while, too.
Good stories, great stories.
Yeah.
But boy, you know, I didn't want to...
get hooked on it, you know.
You love flying saucers.
You love people from outer space.
I
just didn't get X files
was not
one of my favorites.
I did watch it a few times.
I liked what I saw, but I wasn't, you know, avid fan.
The theme music is fantastic.
Yeah,
I love the theme.
Yeah.
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Okay,
now there's a lot of things going on as far as ice is concerned with starting to make headlines again I know what's going on right
here in Charlotte, North Carolina Making their presence known there and apparently they rested hundreds of people
in Chicago.
Yes.
Yes, and I love the headlines it should get a lot of Christian magos very angry because the headline basically said that ice is taking on Christians in Chicago
because there are a lot of pastors up on the front lines and they're being tackled and taken away and
arrested.
A lot of Catholics in Chicago.
That's,
you
know, a lot of Polish votes, a lot of Roman Catholics.
And yeah, so apparently that was very active there.
You would last few days.
You would think you'd be on the wrong side of the argument if you're starting to arrest priests and pastors.
There might be something wrong with your agenda.
Perhaps, I don't know.
Maybe time to rethink things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Take a look at something a little bit different, you know, maybe change up a little bit.
It's 15 minutes past the hour weather for today.
Let's get to that.
It's clear this morning and pretty chilly.
We had a cold front move through 31 degrees currently highs in the mid forties.
What is your Samsung WM DX watch?
Say about sunrise and sunset, John.
Well.
I got this headline on my watch here.
The end of pennies at Woodmans.
Really?
They're getting rid of pennies
now.
They're getting rid of pennies now.
That's the new trend.
It's the latest update.
We'll keep you updated on that one.
Sunrise at 653 and sunset at 431.
Wow.
That is outrageous.
Come on.
All right.
High today of 46, according to the watch here.
Considerable cloudiness, highs in the mid 40s.
And tonight around 35 degrees.
OK.
And maybe some rain snow tonight.
Is it?
Yeah, it doesn't say that.
Did you watch the Packers' Giants
game?
Boy, that was a
good one.
Wow.
Yeah, it's on in the background.
You know, if something happens, I pay attention.
If something doesn't happen, I don't care.
But, you know, I did miss one thing.
I think the kicker missed another field.
I
think
he did.
Yes.
He missed another one.
Oh, my God.
I am
so angry.
I went ballistic.
I mean, I can't.
I can't believe we're doing this.
What is wrong with these people?
Can't they pull the trigger?
I'm ousting that guy.
Oh my god, stop it!
I can't, you know, I'm a big packer fan.
I know you are.
And this is driving me crazy.
Usually they, you know, make some kind of move.
Well, it was, you know, windy up there.
No.
Where
they
were playing in New
York.
My mega friend was saying, you know, oh, chill out, man.
I said, no, no, I'm not chilling out on this one.
I know that guy should be pulled.
But didn't you see it?
Didn't you see that the stitching was on the wrong side of the ball?
And, you know, he shanked it.
And I'm thinking, no.
I don't care, you know.
I'm sure they practice with the, whatever they call it, the stitch.
I don't know what do they call it.
What do they call it?
What are you talking about?
The stitching on the football.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I don't know.
The laces, the laces.
The laces.
The
laces are on the wrong side.
Yeah, they got to have them on the other side.
I would think that's somewhere along the way they kind of practice.
They do.
In case that does happen.
Yes.
Oh my God, come on.
You see the thing is you would probably not even care.
I mean, what does a foot care about laces being on the right or wrong side of a damn ball?
And the other thing that's odd about this is there are longer and longer kicks happening throughout the league.
I mean, they've remarked about this.
The commentators are saying there's some unbelievably long kicks that have been made.
this season, like 60 yards,
65.
The
longest
one was 68 yards.
68 yards yesterday, I think.
It's
crazy.
68
yards.
That's
outrageous.
I know.
Crazy.
Anyway.
Sterret abuse in the NFL.
In just a couple of minutes, we're going to check in with Pam Yaqui from the Midwest Food and Farm Report.
And in our seven o'clock hour, former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
We'll be joining
us.
All
right.
Catch up with him, see what he has to say about things.
Yes.
Yeah, that's all coming up.
And we're just getting started on a Monday morning.
Can't wait.
It's John Peterson, Gordy Young, along with our producer Dominic Lee.
Stay with us for more of John and Gordy on WMDX.
My goal in life is to spread love around, to sprinkle it gently all over the ground.
When I clean out the barn, I cleanse my heart too, while hauling manure.
I'm thinking of you.
There you go.
That's Johnny Garner in the morning.
Great song.
Who is that singing?
I have no clue.
I found it randomly.
Yeah, we're lucky.
Sure is on topic, but you know, we were talking about last week when we were talking about manure and you say manure and I say manure and I believe that Pam you say manure, right?
Right.
I say manure.
Okay.
That's Pam Yackey from Midwest Food and Farm Report.
Fabulous farm babe joining us.
I don't know why we got into that but you know when you said manure that's how it's I feel
that's gonna turn into a bad clip someplace
It's gonna be fine, so you're worried about that Now you're worried
I know who I'm dealing with I know who I'm dealing
with
All right.
Well, let's move on.
Oh, by the way, you know, we got to settle this thing.
Tonya, Tonya, let me know.
And now Larry on Deerfield, let me know that it's John Lucas, uh, Havrasick, right?
Uh, he's, he was filling in for Brandon McManus, who was out with a quad injury.
So he played the whole game and he even missed one.
Now I don't like, I'm not letting him miss one.
But Harvard, Harvard.
Is that how you pronounce it?
Harvard sec.
Anyway, have her sick.
Yeah,
that's the way it sounded on TV.
And
yeah,
he's a substitute teacher.
Yes.
You know what?
He hasn't been playing enough.
I'll give him that one miss.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Let's get into something we didn't talk about last week.
We should have picked up on this.
It's the 2025 Leopold Conservation Award winner on Lafayette County.
Tell us about that, Pam.
Yeah, it's one of the first times we've seen somebody from Southwest Wisconsin pick it up.
His name is Mike Berg, 540 acres that he farms in Lafayette County.
And what's really interesting, I went down to the farm to visit with Mike and his farm is literally cut in half, depending on how you look at it, by the Peccatonica River.
And that really has been his large motivation for a lot of his conservation plans.
His dad Byron before him started a lot of conservation in the 1950s because of the Peccatonica.
I mean, how many times in the spring do you hear flood warnings in that?
And they always
talk about the Pecotonica River over
its banks.
So that's
what they've been trying to farm around.
Yep, farm around for decades.
So for example, one of the projects that caught the attention of the Leopold Conservation people is that Mike and his wife Diane and their family put in over a mile of riprap along the sides of the Pecotonica River where they try to farm.
So that was over 200 loads of some specialized
rock that they then put soil on top of so they could seed it so that they could still maintain a buffer between their fields and the water and make sure that nothing was getting through.
So that's a expensive venture.
They work very closely with the Natural Resource Conservation Service.
Mike and Diane have also planted over 25,000 pine and I want to say pine
and white fur they planted trees all over some of their marginal ground again to keep soil in place and Mike is a really humble guy I mean he he's almost embarrassed that he got this award because he said the land his philosophy is the land
is not a commodity.
It's a resource.
And he said it's only under our care for a short period of time.
You got to make it better for the next generation.
So that's really what he's been doing.
And his son is now in partnership with him working on some of the conservation projects because they both really enjoy hunting.
So some of the marginal land, they're really, like I said, the trees and trail improvements so that they can hunt.
They've got beef cattle now that are grazing on the land right next to the pectonica.
So just a super
super story he was awarded.
on last week Thursday at the Wisconsin Department of Ag, Trade and Consumer Protection's board meeting.
He'll be recognized again from part of December at the Wisconsin Farm Bureau Federation's annual meeting where he'll receive $10,000 in cash and also a beautiful crystal award recognizing his efforts.
Wisconsin is one of, I believe, 28 states where these Leopold Conservation Awards are presented.
So really, and a lot of competition.
There were four
for entries this year, and man, I know pretty much all of them, and they are all exceptional farmers that manage their land thinking about resources and conservation first.
So kudos to Mike Berg and his family down in Lafayette County.
That was just something.
That is really something.
How does he get to the land on the other side of the Peccatonic?
Is there like a bridge nearby or something like that?
that he
he he yeah he did actually he did he built a bridge
and
he also has uh in in areas where the like it's not like the peccatonica stops rolling but there's areas where fishing is really good so mike is built uh kind of a fishing deck
that people are welcome to come and enjoy so you can basically look out at his beef cattle grazing and then drop a line in in the pectotonica so like i said he's
he's
just a
heck of a
guy as far as what he does not only for his farm but for his neighbors
all right let's talk about the federal reserve and aglenders uh what's happening in that area
yeah
That's the skunk this morning that I, you know, I mean, we've got to talk about it because it's obvious that this year is going to be really, really difficult for a lot of Wisconsin farmers.
And the lenders are some of the first to see that federal reserve does a survey of all ag lenders kind of in the seven upper Midwest states of which Wisconsin is one.
And we're the only one that saw a sizable drop in the value of our farmland.
Third quarter of this year down about 7%.
Now that goes hand in glove with our dairy industry.
So if dairy farmers are feeling the pinch, if dairy farmers are feeling like things are getting less optimistic going into 2026, the money that bid on land, normally they...
The land in Wisconsin, a lot of land is purchased for manure management.
If you've got the cows, you need the land to responsibly handle those nutrients.
And when you see dairy farmers kind of constrict on what they're willing to pay for that land, it ripples in that value.
And the other thing is lenders said that they are already experiencing higher loan volumes
than
they did a year ago.
So it looks like everybody's going to be looking for a little extra help in 2026.
All
right, Pam.
Pam, we got to leave it there.
Thank you so much.
You have a good one.
week we'll talk to you.
We'll talk to you sometime in the future.
You're
off-riding, right?
We're moving
to the afternoon, Pam.
I don't know if you don't know.
We have to talk to you about that.
Anyway, have a good weekend.
Midwest Food and Farm reports next, and then it's Idiocracy on John and Gordy.
As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down.
I thought I'm so stupid!
Stupid, foolish, gullible, tautish, dumbbell, lay back.
I'm
an extremely stable genius.
Okay.
It's all fake news.
It's phony stuff.
It didn't happen.
You are fake news.
That's the best stupid thing I've ever heard this week, man.
Idiocracy.
You're the smartest guy in the world.
You're pretty dumb sometimes.
We got more fake news coming from the administration.
Oh, yeah.
It never stops.
Oh, WMDX 92.7 is John and Gordy in the morning pretty soon.
John and Gordy in the afternoon or whatever we're going to call it.
That's
right.
Weather for today, 31 degrees currently, highs today in the mid 40s.
Starting out clear, it looks nice in state streets, downtown, everything is looking good.
Lot of traffic this morning.
I know, what's going on?
I don't know.
Clouds moving in later, high in the mid 40s and then maybe some rain and snow tonight.
So
keep an eye on that.
Maybe people are leaving the city thinking that ice might be here real soon.
I'd clear out.
Yeah.
By the way, before we get to Idiocracy, I went to the Atwood Music Hall.
You were there a little bit beforehand.
We met our friend
Doug
from Milwaukee.
Yes, saw Doug.
And
had
a little something to eat.
I've known Doug for a while, but you had never met
him.
I never met
him.
And went to the Atwood Music Hall to see VO5, their big 20th anniversary.
And Chris, I ran into Chris Cameron out in the audience.
I should
have gone now.
He said, I'm going up on stage in a couple of minutes.
I said, you are okay.
So I got some video of him doing shake your booty on stage there with VO five.
It's on our John and Gordy Facebook page.
He's got his rhinestone jacket and hat on glitter.
And he was wearing Christmas lights that were lighting up.
Really getting into it is with that guy got the crowd going man.
I'll tell you
why do we go to
him as our dentist?
He is the rockin dentist,
but then he said
they said maybe you ought to call me the disco dentist Let's go to Catherine Lake on the line
here.
Maybe morning Catherine
Monday Yeah
Catherine Lake.
For God's sake.
Good morning.
Good morning.
I just want to remind you that at Wood Music Hall, what a wonderful place.
I'm so sorry I had to miss that concert.
But
of course that's where you're doing, we're putting Pete's movie as well.
That's
right.
Yes, the Godfather Green
Bay will be shown there.
That's December 4th.
It's a Thursday brought to us by Doundrens and some proceeds going to the Dane County Humane Society.
Yeah, it's going to be a great evening.
How fun is that?
The other thing I want to remind you of is there's a poll up on your website.
Oh yeah.
Do you know what it is?
No,
I'm checking it
right now.
What is Madison's most Madison controversy?
Okay, parking, biking, rent prices, or lake algae levels.
Right
now, rent
prices are in the lead, followed by parking and biking.
All right.
Last thing, last thing.
No, I just wanted to, um, you can make them having a fun morning, but you're confused.
I know you've been filling in for, you've been filling in for peak for the last couple of days, haven't you?
Yes.
Yes.
Something about switching to afternoons or going to do afternoons or something like that.
I think that was.
Some sort of confusion, right?
I must just misspoke, right?
No.
No, we're doing afternoons beginning this afternoon from two until five.
Yes.
Did
you
miss
the memo?
What?
Really?
I've
been
hyperventilating all weekend long.
We're going to be taking off speakerphone.
I don't know.
I must have misunderstood.
You guys are going to do afternoons.
What?
Yes, it's
afternoons with John and Gordy.
I can't believe you didn't know this already.
But
yeah, so we're doing the morning
show.
On
the whole damn network.
Yes, on the network.
Stay
wide.
But we're still going to do the morning show here for, you know, a little while or a couple of days.
You're doing both shows?
Yes, we're, yes.
I know, it's
insane.
It's
all John and Gordy all the
time, 24-7
here at Civic Media.
That's right.
We feel a responsibility to do broadcasting constantly.
We're going to live here.
We've moved in.
We've got some bunk beds
set up.
The whole thing is we just couldn't abandon anybody just because we're working this afternoon and we didn't want to just leave everybody high and dry in the morning.
So we'll be doing both shows.
Yeah, for a while.
Then we've got some plans to have some other people, guest host.
And then we're going to join them.
We'll join them intermittent.
So yeah, we're going to keep our presence around.
We just feel a responsibility.
We've got such a great cast of characters
on this show.
You know how responsible we are.
Obviously, we hope everybody will join us in the afternoon as well.
What is this?
You scared your cats.
Scared my
cats, she says.
Okay, that's the memo we get from Catherine.
All right.
Tom, can you translate?
What's that mean?
Scared my cats?
She has cats, and we probably scared
them, yeah.
They're just awakened up to us.
My translation.
I
see.
Okay.
All right.
Well, very good.
Yeah, we got a little input here from Scott.
You know, we're talking about releasing the Epstein files and how Trump has changed his mind now.
He wants
to release
them because he knows that Cash Patel will say, no, no, there's investigations going on.
We got to hold on to him.
Sorry about that.
Right.
Sorry for being the villain in all of this.
Yeah.
So stupid.
They're asking some of the senators, well, are you going to vote for it when the House passes it?
Yeah.
And he goes, well,
I don't like this.
I don't like what's happening.
They're
just trying to make him a lame duck president.
What other excuse do you want to come up with?
Oh,
God.
Just release the files and be done with it.
I guess that's it's just gonna go back and forth there.
You're
right.
I don't think they're gonna release.
Yeah, and that's the whole reason why Senate Trump called for an investigation told Pam Bonnie investigate this thing and all of a sudden boom Yeah, there's an investigation going on you can't release the files while there's an investigation going on because that is typically a Tradition that the FBI has yeah, but they don't care about traditions do they in the administration?
That's what I thought they'd
These aren't written down.
These aren't rules and regulations that we don't care about anyway.
Let's do it.
Yeah, I don't know.
Well, wait, see, you know,
that's, that's the plan.
Well, we're idiocracy.
Well, yeah, yeah, we also will mention that in Chicago, you know, there's this headline saying, you know, ice against Christians, taking on Christians, tackling pastors and priests down there who are protesting the ice center.
This was just released as well.
ProPublica came out with an investigation.
And the Chicago raid where the kids were zip tied and citizens detained for hours, all their furniture were thrown out in the hallway.
None of the arrested were criminally charged.
None.
No evidence.
Wait a minute, where was this?
Chicago
this was where they repelled from black Hawk helicopters into the building No charges No terrorists zero legitimate reason for the DHS to repel into their building
This is probably one of the most extreme events that we've had in this country and just completely wrong.
So just to keep you updated on that.
21
protesters arrested, officers were injured, a number of priests and other faith leaders.
It's a war against Christians down in Chicago, so the Megas should be very upset about
this.
They should.
They should.
And again, who knows who started it.
But I would assume ICE did.
Maybe backing people up and then dragging people off and then of course people get angry from that.
And following with the whistles.
Yeah.
Right.
Wow.
I watched the video and it was really obnoxious.
The whistling got my dog's attention anyway.
Did
it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How about this?
This is nutty stuff.
Laura Ingram talked to Trump about Trump's latest project.
He was starving people for a while there and, you know, rubbing shoulders with all the dictators in the world, and that's what he's doing.
in his time while everybody else is suffering here paying higher prices for their health care.
Laura Ingram at least came across very honestly and and really trashed Trump for his latest project and that is the old Eisenhower executive office.
Trump for some reason loves the building and has decided to paint it.
This is cut this is cut 90
He's got JD out there painting
it.
Well, I would think so, you know if JD's gonna do anything just paint the building It's an elaborate building and weird-looking build when you hear what what Laura Ingram says and if I think even somebody else in the studio also said something very interesting about
Hold the Eisenhower executive office looks so let's let's check this out.
This is wild
Actually one of the most beautiful buildings ever built How beautiful that is with a coat of paint So is it just painting though?
It's all painting most of this painting.
So what is it now?
and pointing and painting.
It needs other work too.
Look at that, how beautiful that is.
But you're not worried it's like a big white blob?
No,
but it does as it brings out the detail.
So you're a builder,
I'm not, I have
no aesthetic sense.
No, it
really, it brings out the detail.
Do you understand Raymond?
I do.
That building was built.
Suck up.
People considered it a really ugly building.
And I looked at it and some other people, it was one of the most beautiful buildings ever built.
There it is
before.
It's sort of like an Adam's family.
An aesthetic, I have to say.
So you're cleaning up the Adam's family.
No,
it's highlighting.
Maybe that's what gave it the Adam's
family.
You know what it's
called?
They use gravestone.
Gray.
Gray is for funerals.
But it's called gravestone.
Look at it now.
How beautiful that is.
Gorgeous.
And what is
that planned for?
I don't even know if I'm going to do it yet.
I mean, I'm getting costs from... I'm getting bids right now from...
Painters and we'll see it'll be a great addition to Washington.
Oh boy.
So Yeah, just crazy Adams family building Very
weird architecture and the Eisenhower yeah building.
Yeah, but What is he just gonna go on this kind of tear now just building?
They're just gonna make turn buildings down and then painting buildings and fixing them up This is him
his imprint, right?
I mean what are you gonna do?
Yeah?
Now if you're the next president going in there, you just take that ballroom and tear it down and show him That you're not gonna take that stuff anymore.
All right now Sean Duffy is out there.
He's busy, you know and the transportation because now we finally have the airports opening back up Yeah, you know just in time for Thanksgiving.
Let's hope the air traffic controllers show up
too.
I don't know.
We don't have enough of them.
You know, they were calling and sick and stuff like that because they didn't want to work for nothing.
But this is something to keep in mind.
He said this during, you know, the shutdown.
Here, let's just cut 84.
This is Sean Duffy, you know, just kind of warning us about his
talents.
Listen, you can walk outside.
I can't guarantee your safety.
You get in your car.
I can't guarantee safety, but I have to look at the risk in this system.
And then we have to make decisions based on that risk and based on that pressure.
There you go.
So he can't guarantee our safety, which is something the transportation secretary should be trying to do.
It
does
seem kind of
odd, doesn't it?
It does.
Hell, you know, take the chances.
You know what happens.
You don't want too much pressure.
Too much responsibility.
Oh my god.
All right.
It is coming up on 649.
We will continue with idiocracy in just a moment.
A lot more straight ahead in our seven o'clock hour.
We'll check in with former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin on John and Gordy,
WMDX.
Keep it rockin', wave the song!
WMVX at 92 points.
That's
VO5.
Playing that they played that Saturday night.
They did at the Atwood Music Hall.
That was a wonderful show.
Rocker was there by the way too, and huge crowd there.
Really a lot of fun.
Again, we have a great video of Chris Cameron on stage with VO5
doing Shake Your Booty.
And that's our Facebook
site.
It is.
Just go to John and Gordy on
Facebook.
Okay, I know this is you really captured the essence of the rock and roll dentist
I just happen to be at the right place at the right time.
Oh,
it's a really great video It's a real standout.
I think it's
going viral
pretty sure I'm pretty sure it will be going viral Chris
put it on his page and you know a bunch of people I think VO five has it on their page too.
All right
Well, I should have gone, you know, I know you had there right down the street from it.
Yeah, you could have gone Now I regret it, you know, you know, I've had my disco days To leave them behind you
should have seen all the crazy outfits people were wearing.
Oh my god,
but I'm a big fan of one sections
I
love them
and feel five excellent horn
section.
Well, Gordy, did you wear a cool outfit or no?
No
I
don't have any disco stuff left.
You know, I thought maybe you had your little jacket, your rhinestone jacket.
Glitter jacket.
No,
no.
You threw that all the way and
lit all my polyester on fire many years ago.
Yeah.
And I had to get the had to get the right polyester shirts back then.
I'm serious, you know.
So they were kind of like silk, but not really.
Yeah, I think there were dickies or something.
I can't remember what it was.
It was.
Yeah, they had some kind of.
You know, some brand that was very popular and I had a few of those.
Yeah.
Leisure suits.
I did not, I did not unbutton the shirt dramatically like a lot of people did.
No.
And if you're really cool, you had a medallion or some
sort of necklace.
No, I would never do that either.
I barely wanted to go.
I was just dressed for it.
That was a phase.
But I have to admit, I had this great jacket that I bought here in Madison.
Really?
At
It was a Merlin jacket, a leather jacket that was on State Street.
And I bought it there and it was just the best rock and roll jacket ever, leather, dark burgundy.
And this guy stole my jacket
at
the disco club.
Kidding.
And get this, my girlfriend ended up going out with him after me.
No way.
And he showed her the jacket he stole from me And she forced him to give the jacket back
to me.
Oh, okay.
So you do you still have the jacket?
No You know, I should have kept it.
Honestly, why did why did I give it because I would never fit into it Did you you know, I'm not big or large or anything like that.
It's just that I was very very thin at the time So you just gave it away
a little bit since it took it a good will or
St.
Vinnie's or something.
I don't know what happened to it.
I'm kind of mad or angry about that.
I had lightning jeans as well.
You know, I wear out my jeans and I have holes in them and I'd have a seamstress.
My my mom knew a seamstress and she put all these patches on star patch patches, moon patches.
And then I had silk, silver silk.
Stitched down the side of my legs.
Got
to find some pictures.
Those are those are great bell bottom jeans, man.
Yeah.
All right, well, no one wants to see that or hear about it.
Too late.
OK, all right.
Hey, you know, the government's going to start reporting again on the economy.
They're actually going to get everybody back and start reporting on it.
But for a while, we were relying on different sources, right?
And we were relying on DoorDash reports.
DoorDash
reports.
Yes, DoorDash.
The delivery service.
After the DoorDash report was released, the White House was quick to issue a press relief sharing the lower prices.
See, this is proof
that
prices are lower now.
New data from DoorDash's state of local commerce report confirming that inflation has been tamed.
Everyday prices are beginning to drop and wages are growing.
The reality though, that is not what it said.
The cost of food at restaurants has risen according to the report.
Breakfast prices are down to the prices of eggs going down.
And the everyday essential index like shampoo is nearly flat year over year.
But the other things, everything else was more expensive.
So breakfast foods, DoorDash is saying, eggs lower the price of the food.
So therefore...
That's what the White House focused their attention on.
Prices are going down for scrambled eggs delivered to your door.
They were making some progress.
Yes, yes.
Now let's take another shot at the Republicans.
Okay, Texas Representative Brandon Gill makes fun of the new crop of Democrats.
Idiots abound, pounding their chest, depriving food from kids.
That's what he's basically saying.
Let's go to cut 85.
Here we go.
Gentlemen is recognized for one minute.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It was great to hear from the new leader of the Democrat Party, Mrs. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Unfortunately, we didn't also get to hear from their other leader, Mr. Zoran Mondani.
Mr. Speaker, I'm going to be proud this evening to vote to reopen the federal government.
Yeah,
there you go.
A few shots, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean.
You've got the cast of characters behind you, you dumbass.
That I wouldn't brag about.
And he didn't.
You know, my friend, in fact, all of the megas out there continually.
Trash AOC.
Seeing that she is one of the dumbest people ever.
If that's a dumb person, well, anyway.
Yeah.
I mean, they've got a few people there, don't they?
Yes, they do.
On the right side of the aisle that don't come across real intelligent.
AOC is unbelievably
intelligent and
sharp and really good.
She takes the two of them all the time, so we love
that.
That's why they're attacking her.
All right, 6.59.
We've got news, weather, sports, straight ahead.
More of the latest stories coming up, too.
Yeah.
And in about a half an hour or so, we'll be checking in with former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
It's all coming up on John and Gordy on WMDX.
And the afternoon.
And the afternoon
too.
Almost
all the time on this station.
24-7.
What
are
we gonna do with all these jingles that we made?
We're gonna update them.
Wow.
Oh, geez.
Oh, so much work.
Just
what you think you're settling in.
That's right, I know.
Oh, boy.
Yes, John and Gordy in the morning and in the afternoon we'll be on from two until five beginning today on the Civic Media Radio
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I'll prevent him.
Really?
I'll prevent him from being too cruel.
You know, he's the
shock jock
at heart.
Oh,
that's me.
And
he's been trashy in just about
everybody that calls in on the show.
Yeah, that's usually during the commercial breaks,
but.
But.
Oh, God.
Paul Sagan will join us
in about a half an hour.
Yeah.
You know, he was mayor for 22 years altogether.
Three different times.
We want to ask him about the governor's race, maybe, right?
The Wisconsin governor's race.
So what his thoughts are on that, on the primaries.
So he
thinks about that.
Yeah, about some of the candidates.
I wonder what he thinks about some of those Republican candidates.
Wow, wow, we.
Yeah, we're going to.
We're going to take some shots at those individuals.
Some of the Republican mega candidates that seem to be running Trump's campaign in the state.
We report you
decide.
All right, let's go to the phones.
We've got Joe.
Joe, welcome to the show.
Good morning,
Joe.
Hi, guys.
Well, you've released my inner Wolverine, which is always a fun situation.
I'm responding to that bonehead.
Excuse me for saying that.
I don't have actual evidence that he's a bonehead, but he sounds like a bonehead.
The guy who was talking about AOC and that she isn't intelligent got up on the floor at Congress and said she isn't intelligent, offered no evidence that would support his statement that she isn't intelligent.
She's not smart.
And of course, we know that she graduated cum laude from Boston U with international relations and economics.
And my favorite was, in high school, she placed second in this international competition, second in microbiology, in an international science and engineering fair.
And then she had this led to MIT Lincoln Laboratory naming a small asteroid after her.
So obviously, you're to be noted by somebody.
And I was back and I looked at this competition that she placed second in.
And it is an international science and engineering fair for high school and people in pre-college.
There are 75 countries that offer that they draw from for this particular competition.
And out of that competition, there's only about 1,500, 1,700 that are selected.
to participate and she placed second.
Get out of town.
Obviously quite capable in many different fields.
And I think the other point I'd like to make is this guy got up on the floor and made it, you know, made it his business to say she's not smart without offering any evidence for that particular point of view.
And I imagine these guys, how would you feel if your daughter was castigated like that?
How would you feel if your wife was put through that kind of grinder or your girlfriend or your sister or somebody that you knew, that a guy gets up and just throws out the insults without anything to back it up and we're all just supposed to go, oh.
Yeah, it's just, oh okay.
I mean, it just would be fun if somebody's dad would come onto the floor and pie him or something like that, you know.
Somebody should
take a shot at Texas representative Brandon Gill and that's who made those comments, so.
Yeah, who didn't sound too smart to me.
No,
he didn't either, no.
Yeah, and my evidence is what he said about AOC, okay.
Right.
I know, God, what is
this?
I know I hear it from my mega friend.
all the time.
It's just outrageous, you
know.
Yeah, imagine it's your daughter that's getting a disc like that.
Anyway, thanks guys.
Alright, Joe.
Thank you.
Thanks, Joe.
Oh, yeah.
Getting a couple of comments here.
From Doug at St.
Francis, we actually met up with Doug over the weekend.
He says, congratulations on your move to statewide.
I should have my hours moved around by the end of the week when I'll wake up at 1 p.m.
for your two o'clock show.
That's right, you can sleep in now.
And
wake up.
You can sleep till one now.
So you don't have to get up early in the morning anymore to check out the show and see what's going on in the nation.
You can sleep till one and
we'll be on it too.
There you go.
Let's go back to the phones.
Dick
is on the line.
608-879-8255.
Good morning, Dick.
Go ahead.
Well, guys, I'm trying to figure out President Flip Flop.
Now, I'm finding that this guy, he wants the Epstein files released, and he's backing off on all the tariffs.
Yeah,
well... How do you keep up to this guy?
I mean, here's the thing with the...
the Epstein situation.
They probably purged everything out of it like they did the Mueller report and that's the only reason he's calling for this.
That would be my guess.
A lot of the
stuff that's coming out though still has plenty of
information.
We had a story here on the program where they were
purging all Republicans on the Epstein file and only leaving the Democrats.
So I think that will become very obvious when they come out,
right?
But still, it will become very obvious, but a lot of people will buy into it, and that's what it's all about with him.
In 22 hours, he made that kind of an about face on these two major things.
It
is amazing.
Yes.
And by the way,
and
then I have a story here.
I think he's going to hang out in the background.
He's not going to be out there.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Be in the target anymore.
He's just going to stay indoors, redecorate the Eisenhower building.
He's going to paint it.
Tuck paint it.
He's going to be doing the tuck painting.
Oh, my God.
Well, you know, just ask John and give him some tips on that.
You could help out.
Well, give him some advice.
Yeah, well, absolutely.
You know, I'll give him advice.
Leave the building alone and go away.
Yeah, it's the old Adam's family house.
It does
have that kind of style of architecture.
I don't know what you're calling
that.
It does.
I mean, you know, kind of gable-y, you know, a lot of... That's right, a lot of gables.
So anyway, let's talk about... Trump was saying that the whole Epstein thing is a hoax, right?
Yeah,
that's been his line for a while.
I got a story here, but I don't...
heaven in front of me.
I have too many stories.
You got a big pile of stuff.
Let me just remember that I did see a story where he is essentially saying that it's a Hulks, but he's going to start investigations in on the Clintons and other people
that are
supposed to be on the list.
So
he's investigating a Hulks.
All right So I'm not the only one who noticed that it is a Republican Tom Massey who also noticed that and this cut 111 so let's listen to a Republican make that Notification,
okay?
This message is for anybody.
No, it's not it does.
No, no
Okay, I have no idea what that is.
Let me take a look at that cut.
It's not 111.
So let me let me take a look.
All right.
All right
I actually don't know what that was.
It was kind of weird sounding, whatever it
was.
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Let me help a model a little bit.
All you have to do is look for the name in the cut, and it's Tom Massey.
I mean, it's... You're still looking?
It's pretty much there.
It's not there.
It's not there.
Oh, okay, okay.
Is Dr. Oz there?
112?
No, you don't have any of the latest cuts.
I guess
I guess not.
I mean
that would be a
problem.
Well, the boys are still looking.
Let me tell you that
you can go see the Godfather of
Green Bay at Wood Music Hall Thursday, December 4th, 7 o'clock.
Pete Schwabba from Nightlight will be there and will be there too, John and Gordy.
Of course, Pete is in the movie.
He directed the movie.
He stars in the movie.
He wrote the
movie.
I know.
What is that all about?
He's going to run the projector.
Mr. Ego.
It's celebrating the 20th anniversary of the Godfather of Green Bay.
It's really gonna be a lot of fun.
It's all brought to you by Downdrins Distilling and proceeds of the ticket sales.
Tickets are 10 bucks.
Proceeds go to Dane County Humane Society's Pet Food Pantry.
Did we find the cut yet?
That's good to know.
I'm going to share that cut, please.
Technical difficulties.
Hey, why am I focusing on this one cut?
I have
all these others I have 20 stories in front of you.
Perhaps we should move along.
No, everybody likes hearing me struggle with this.
Did
we mention the poll
that's
on wmdxradio.com?
How do you have it?
I I'm looking I have the poll here Madison's most Madison controversy.
Oh, we got it.
Okay.
All right, so let's get to
This is not an important cut, but let's get to it anyway.
Damn it.
This is representative Tom Massey talking about the president investigating hoaxes.
Okay.
You know, the president's been saying this is a hoax.
He's been saying that for months.
Well, he's just now decided to investigate a hoax if it's a hoax.
And
I
have another concern about these investigations that he's announced.
If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas, those documents can't be released.
So this might be a big smoke screen, these investigations to open a bunch of them to as a last ditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files.
There you go.
Okay.
Was
that worth
it?
It was
worth it.
No, come on.
Give me kudos for that one.
You know, for some reason that that was the one cut that didn't transfer over.
Isn't that weird?
Oh, it wasn't in there
yet.
All the other
ones.
Dr. Oz is in there, right?
I think so.
What cut is that one?
That's 112.
12 is not in there.
He stopped at 110.
Anything past that?
Nothing.
Okay.
All
right.
All right, let's go to...
You know, if we can get somebody else to do this for me, I'm apparently not able to do any of this.
All the planning and preparation we do for this show,
each and every day
you work all night long and Dom comes in here and gets all the cuts going, you know.
All
he's trying to do is correct me.
It's a Monday.
All he's trying to do is
just
want to make fun of me.
It's a Monday.
It's not true at all.
It is not true.
So, all right.
It always happens on Monday.
It's a Monday thing, yeah.
That's why we always have Mondays with... We need Mondays with Barry more and more, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
You can help us.
Well, we'll see if we can't update those last two cuts.
Okay.
Paul Soglin, former Madison mayor, will join us in about 15 minutes.
Be back with more of John and Gordy in the morning, right after this.
Here comes the helicopter Second time today Everybody scatters And hopes it goes away How
many kids
they've murdered
Only God can save
What do you have DX 92.7?
It's John and Gordy in the morning plus the afternoon as well.
Um, 23 past the hour right now, 31 degrees, a chilly start this morning.
We'll get into the mid forties, a lot of sunshine and then the clouds move in and maybe some rain later today or tonight.
And some of that could mix in or change to snow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Get ready.
I don't want it.
I
don't want it.
Okay.
I heard there's like a jet stream and then there's something else.
Really?
Yeah, and if they clash, if they do something that we don't want to have done, it'll cause problems.
Snow, lots of snow.
Oh, really?
Early in the season.
OK.
All winter long.
So we've been pretty good, you know.
We haven't gotten a lot of
snow
in the last two years.
It says recent models suggest a potential wobble in the.
Polar Vortex, which can bring a lot of Arctic air to Wisconsin around Thanksgiving.
There you go.
Oh, it's exactly it.
Really?
Yeah, we're in real
trouble.
Okay.
If this happens, you know, it's just, I'm just warning you.
Polar Vortex,
something to deal with.
Well, I heard John saying, he warned us, you know.
Run for the hills.
Right.
All right.
Well, we got a caller here.
Let's go to, who is this?
CJ?
CJ,
I wonder what CJ stands for.
CJ, good morning.
Go
ahead.
I think it's called John, right?
CJ called John.
All
right.
That's what it
stands for.
Well, I've been called worse, but thank you gentlemen for taking my call.
I hope you had a good weekend.
You know, I listen to this Epstein stuff and tragic as it is.
You know, I just,
And so bewildered that the concern over what happened to these women decades ago, but we've got the last four or five years, 420,000 missing, minor children that they now, Homeland Security said they recovered almost 25,000 and many in bad situations.
Due to the previous administration letting unaccompanied minors into the country and then just letting them go to people they haven't even vetted and many have been found to be abused You know so I'm bewildered how your party
that sounds kind of made
up that story is made up steam but 420,000 little kids.
Yeah
were brought into this country during the Biden administration, and your party doesn't care.
Yeah, and does
your party care
about DACA?
Do they care about the DACA kids?
The dreamers?
Yeah, tell me about that one too.
You know, here's the thing, Trump separated children from their families and then didn't keep records of it.
And those...
Children got lost in the system and can't find their parents because there are no records No names were taken and you're worried about these people that came over here independently Kids teenagers Finding new homes and you're complaining about that for some reason instead of the children that were taken away from parents and and
Who cares about DACA kids who we didn't have any choice about coming over, but you want to block them and keep them from being Americans.
I don't know.
Sometimes, you know, all of this stuff conflicts.
Well, yeah, contradicts each other.
Didn't hear any sources for
that
information either.
Yeah, he's getting that.
But all right.
So we go to Charles.
Let's
go to Charles on the line.
Good morning, Charles.
Hey, good morning guys.
He never has a source.
He runs his mouth like a running toilet.
Never has anything to back it up.
But let's forget about Donald Trump and all his rich friends that were out here, maybe raping little girls.
That's not an issue.
The pedophiles, the rapists.
Let's overlook that.
And then I'm going to come up with this stuff where I got nothing to back up my thing is for anybody that has something to say, give us a reference.
What can we go look at?
Like I said, if this administration told us that we were being bombed right now by Russia and China, I wouldn't believe it unless until I saw a plane flying over with a Russia or China emblem underneath it, then I would believe it.
I wouldn't believe nothing this administration tells us.
I agree with you 100%.
In fact, Christie Norm came out and blamed Biden for a Florida group of immigrants who were sexual predators and they broke up this group.
But for some reason it's not DeSantis' fault.
I mean, he really cracked down immigrants in his state.
But he missed the ones that were sexual predators.
And of course, it's Biden's fault.
And that's what Noam basically said.
She said, the Biden administration allowed depraved criminals to infiltrate our communities and prey on innocent children.
Yeah, we're
hearing that more and more.
It was all Biden's fault.
Oh, yeah, it's always, you know what, and this is the thing, when the Democrats take over, let's blame.
everything on Trump.
And you know what?
It won't be hard to do.
So it'll be true.
It'll be all true.
So we just have to mention Trump and blame him no matter what we say.
Yeah.
All
right.
29 past the hour.
And straight ahead we have the Midwest Food and Farm Report.
Then we're back with former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
He'll join us on John and Gordy in the morning.
WMDX.
Everybody knows the war is over.
Everybody knows the good guys lost.
Everybody knows the fight was fixed.
The poor stay poor.
The rich get rich.
That's how it goes.
Everybody knows.
Yeah, we know it.
John and Gordy in the morning here.
And diamonds have the
controls.
Wow.
It's a chilly start this morning.
Thirty one degrees highs in the mid forties this afternoon.
A lot of sunshine early clouds later and maybe some rain mixed with snow by tonight.
Song brings you down.
Oh, I don't know.
Well,
you know, we're taking we got a few texts here about CJ and one is saying that the sea stands for clay.
OK.
Can't remember whether that.
We didn't talk to him.
I mean, he wanted to be called by his real name.
Oh, well.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
What are you reading?
I'm seeing something here.
CJ texted us after he got off the phone here.
He says, my sources, Biden's own custom and border patrol numbers, Bureau of Labor and Statistics.
Sure.
Okay.
We'll check
that out.
All right.
All right, let's get to our guests this morning.
It's Paul Song, former mayor of Madison.
And by the way, Paul.
Didn't you throw your hand into the ring for governor once I think
that was yes
Maybe I should have asked you before we got on the air.
I know it's a downer I shouldn't have brought it up, but what do you think?
Yeah
candidates that we have right now running for governor I mean we have so many Democrats.
It's it's pretty Uncountable at this point
a lot of candidates.
Yeah
Well I can
Tell you what I think is best for Wisconsin.
Yeah,
okay And that is in the primary we do not select the best trump basher That we do select the candidate who can relate to the disenfranchised the disillusioned in Wisconsin who Who can identify
The right elites to tack in other words the elites who Are accumulating wealth at the expense of the rest of us That's quite quite simply it.
Yeah, that's it.
Okay.
Well, so, you know, you don't want somebody just out there attacking Trump But what about the what about the Republicans now who are running and you know, Tiffany
and showman, they are constantly attacking everybody about everything in the state.
And isn't it funny?
Have you noticed that they're attacking what the Republicans in the legislature have done over the last 14 years?
Well, they've taken a page out of Trump's playbook, which is to try to
Well, let's go back to some polling data.
All right That just came out this last week or two and I don't think we needed polling data to make this point but one of the things that distinguishes Republicans from Democrats and makes them very Attractive is being decisive and forceful and Really the the the politician who who set that plate
Uh, was our own governor, Scott Walker, uh, got in there and at first January that February and put up, put out act 10 and said, I don't care about traditions.
I don't care about morality.
I don't care about anything, uh, other than my agenda and I'm going to trample, excuse me, trample over everyone in the process of getting there.
Right.
Donald Trump took that.
And that decisiveness on his part, and on the Republicans that he's programmed, is the same message, and that's what you're seeing with these two.
The defection of Marjorie Taylor Greene this last week, I think, is interesting, just to see how that impacts the playbook for both the Republicans and the Democrats.
There's no question in my mind that to be appealing to voters, not the insiders, not the party leaders, but to be an attractive candidate to the people who are going to make the final decision in the millions when they cast their vote, on the one hand, you do have to be decisive and you do have to
appeal to the disillusionment about where the country is going.
Hopefully, not appealing to racist and biased tendencies, but appealing to the common good.
Yeah.
You know, one of the interesting things is, and this is a comment from Marjorie,
Taylor or they call her now Marjorie Trader Green This is what she said I never thought that fighting to release the Epstein files defending women who are victims of rape and fighting to expose the web of rich powerful elite who have caused this but here we are and it truly speaks for itself there needs to be a new way forward the toxic political industrial complex thrives on ripping us apart but never delivers anything but
Good, nothing good for the American people, whom I love.
That's her comment.
That's kind of, not something I'd ever expected to see,
but... Well, I don't want to start making her into some kind of heroine, but she's going to be interesting to watch evolve because she's clearly a product of the environment in which she was raised.
in terms of her conservative populism, in terms of her racism, in terms of so much of what we know about her.
And now that she's got her own power, her own political base, it's going to be interesting to see how far she's willing to go across a base that nurtured her
which she in turn has fed, you know, it's just sort of reminiscent of where Huey Long was in Louisiana a hundred years ago.
Well, you know, the thing is, you know, she does make kind of
Great comments like I just read but also then she contradicts it later on in another interview So I just
I
just want to point that out.
I'm not supporting her, but I have noticed that the Republican side The governor candidates are taking up and you've mentioned this that they have taken up what Trump has done Running for president.
He they're running the same kind of fear campaign about immigrants in this state and that Trump ran
And that's kind of an interesting thing because Mekwan is starting to become a huge topic nationwide for some of the burglaries that
are
happening in Mekwan.
And they've got no proof that these are immigrants or some kind of terror group from another country.
Let me just share with you what a friend of ours is going through.
She was born in a South American country.
She came here at the United States.
She's a naturalized citizen.
She has a professional job here in Dane County.
And the holidays are coming up.
She's got two elderly parents in South America who she'd like to see.
And she's not going home this Christmas.
And even though she's
Got her naturalization papers.
She's got her passport.
She's got all that She's just fearful that with her accent She may get swept up trying to return to the US and disappear.
Yeah And with no ability to contact anyone and and and that's
That's profiling.
That's what happens with profiling.
And that's what's happened in this country.
And that's the fear and terror that millions of Americans feel in this day where Elon Musk says that the problem with society is too much empathy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's made some
amazing comments.
He's stunning.
We're talking to former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
Let's get back on the governor's race for a moment.
I'm just wondering, Paul, having run for governor back in 2018 and going through the primary, I mean, do you have any advice for candidates nowadays as far as going out, getting the grassroots support?
Where do you go?
Who do you talk to?
Are you talk to the leaders?
These candidates,
go all over the state campaigning.
Uh, it's not easy.
Well, from a strategic standpoint, I think it's critical to have a grassroots base.
I don't think there's any question about that.
Um, that you've, you've got to have that.
If you, you want to become a competitive candidate and that means field organizing, that means setting up a network where I don't know what you need, where they need five or 10 people in every county.
That's a second point, I think, is that you have to campaign everywhere.
You can't just, as a Democrat, if you want to be viable in the November election, you can't just go and harvest votes in Dane County, in Milwaukee County.
You've got to be everywhere.
If you want to win in November, you've got to do more than just campaign for the primary.
And then, as I said, campaign for the primary,
While it's very appealing to become a winner by having a anti-Trump routine, the really important thing is touching people where it counts, which is how they're discouraged, how they feel their future has been stolen from them, and what you're going to do about it.
Decisively incredibly
well there's
that
word decisively again.
I mean you mentioned Scott Walker kind of being very decisive It was his agenda and no one else's agenda.
We saw that with Trump.
In fact, I think Trump our Walker was a great precursor to what we see in Trump Yeah, but do we do we have something like that from the Democratic side?
Is that something that we could do be that decisive?
It's our way or the highway
Can we do something like that, or is that not a good call?
I think we can, and I think we can do it on certain issues that are at the top of people's agenda.
First is I'm going to be very decisive about health care for all.
And I'm going to do something in our state government to solve that problem.
The second area we'd hit upon is the minimum wage.
we are going to raise the minimum wage in Wisconsin.
That's second to health care on the agenda.
I'm not sure how correct I am about what I'm about to say, and that has to do with housing.
I think housing, particularly for an aging population all over the state, not just in
Dane County, Milwaukee County, but I think housing in the other counties, Ozaki and Salk, what's happening with an aging population in terms of affordable housing is a critical issue.
Okay, we can we're gonna take a break here.
I want to come back with the issue of health care and housing in just a moment.
All right
talking with former Madison Mayor Paul Southern and we will continue the conversation after a brief brief time out.
It's John Peterson Gordy Young along with our producer Dominic Lee will be right back on WMDX
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They were back with former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
Got a few more minutes here to go.
Yeah, Paul, you won't have to get up so early in the morning.
We'll have you on in the afternoon.
And
that would be statewide.
Yes, statewide.
Cool.
All right.
Hey, you know,
I came up with a great idea and I wasn't able to talk to anybody in power to, you know, at least put this forward.
But I always thought that the Democrats should have.
been on board with universal health care immediately we knew that these uh these tax credits were going to expire and we didn't think that the republicans would renew them we could have brought up not only renewing the tax credits for the aca but we also could have brought up universal health care and beat it to death to this point now the problem is
Now the Republicans have their own plan and now we're going to be talking about their plan instead of what we could have brought up months ago and be talking about our plan instead.
Is that crazy or what?
No, no, I mean, it's it's very clear that if you understand the fundamentals of what we got now and what parts of it work and then the concept of universal health care.
Yeah.
it in effect is a winner.
There's going to be some pretty sad stories with what happens now and the choices that people are going to have to make in terms of giving up their health insurance when the new
Changes to it go into effect.
Yeah, it's going to become unaffordable and we're gonna again in This modern age and so-called wealthiest country in the world See more and more people Either choosing between an effect dying or some form of inevitable bankruptcy that they'll never get out of yeah
Well all that and closing rural hospitals at the same time and You know it's just and then of
course backfilling some of the rural hospitals with extra taxpayer dollars So to kind of bail them out for the policies they put in place that caused the problem in the first place It just seems like you know and then of course putting these tax credits instead of putting them into the insurance companies into the ACA they want to give them directly to Americans
and put it in their health savings accounts,
which I don't go into the details, but health savings accounts are basically a fraud.
It is.
Yeah.
Um, you know, when we talk about rural America, the first thing that for me to come to mind is the rural electrification program, which brought electricity in the thirties through the fifties to areas where in effect,
the federal government instituted a form of socialism in terms of redistributing assets and wealth because when you're having a household every five miles, running those electrical lines is not practical, not unless you put it into a system.
that includes the density of urban America.
We need that now in terms of both health care and one area I haven't followed as much has got to do with access to the internet.
That's right.
That fell apart as well.
Trump destroyed that and decided to put in satellites, which has slower speeds.
And instead of going with fiber optic, which was rolling out just fine in this state until he decided to pull that back a lot.
See, I mean, it's going to take, you know, the denser places like Madison and Milwaukee to an effect subsidize.
Putting fiber optic throughout the state, but then the payback Is going to be better quality of life.
Yes includes a better economy in rural, Wisconsin Which in turn means a stronger tax base and that's how we all get repaid
Exactly
it can happen if you if you have the will to do it.
I mean these farmers are businessmen they can
They could produce these products, they could sell these products online if they wanted to.
I don't know, this is really holding up rural Wisconsin in a bad way or any rural state.
And you cannot operate any farm these days.
Yes, without it.
Without high speed access.
Yeah.
Because all those tractors are running on GPS and in their programming that
they
need so desperately.
All
right.
Well, Paul, we're just about out of time.
We want to invite you on our afternoon show sometime.
Yeah, we want to have you on.
Can you do it?
Geez, I was just wondering when you guys were going to ask.
Well, we just did.
All right.
I like to hear that.
We'll keep in touch and
we'll
get you on there.
By the way, how's the book going?
Yeah.
We're going through another rewrite.
OK.
And my wife kept saying.
Too many words, too many words.
Well, keep us posted.
Well, you have AI
now.
Just
run it through AI and see what AI has to say.
All right.
Thank you, Paul.
Thanks, Paul.
Take care.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
That's former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
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