Still celebrating their two-year anniversary on the air, they talk with a long-time friend, Sly, on the phone. They reminisce about knowing each other from their early days at WMAD when Sly was working overnights. The conversation touches on the unpredictable nature of radio, with Sly humorously noting that two years in radio is like two decades.

The discussion then takes a political turn, with Sly expressing cynicism about the current state of affairs, referencing the tear gas incident involving a priest in Chicago and equating recent political actions to "Green Acres" meets "Stephen King."

Jim Santelle,  host of Amicus: A Law Review as well as an attorney and former public prosecutor, joins the show. He mentions the importance of the upcoming federal court meeting with Donald Trump about the imposing of tariffs.

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