In the second hour of the John & Gordy Show, Mike McCabe joins the show. Author of Miracles Across County Q, Mike talked about his most recent substack called Time To Grow The F Up. In the article, he talked about how adulthood means facing reality without sugarcoating it or giving up hope. You accept that life includes loss and struggle, but also beauty and life. Then he quotes Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who talks about how both youth and old age involve limits — when you’re young, adults limit you; when you’re old, your body does. The boys giggle about how Mike is the only race of sunshine during the entirety of the show.

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