In a heated discussion, John and Gordy navigate through murky waters of political polarization, focusing on the divisive rhetoric of figures like Charlie Kirk and Trump. They confront the dangerous normalization of hateful speech and its implications on societal values. Former Madison Mayor, Paul Soglin, weighs in on the importance of understanding true fascism and the necessity of long-term organizing to combat right-wing strategies. The episode touches on civic responsibilities, the power of words, and the role of media in shaping narratives. They close with a reminder of the importance of critical self-reflection and community engagement in fostering change. JAG also talks with Amy Horak about the importance of keeping you lawn nice and tidy for when winter comes around!

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