Flashbacks, Farewells, and Free Tickets

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Flashbacks, Farewells, and Free Tickets

John & Gordy · Fri May 30, 2025

John (host)

seven.

It's John and Gordy in the morning.

I'm just having a flashback music that we have our theme song right to our old cable show.

I don't know

Sam (contributor)

why

John (host)

I was just starting to think about the cable show sitting in those chairs with the box of popcorn.

Yes.

Heavily plasticized.

Yeah.

Sam (contributor)

That was real

John (host)

popcorn.

Right.

And they poured plastic on the top to hold it in place.

Yeah.

And this

Gordy (host)

giant.

Yeah.

Round box.

Yeah.

Ah, yes.

Love to bring back the cable access show.

Can we get our show on cable access still these days?

I don't think they have cable

John (host)

access anymore.

No, they don't.

They don't

Gordy (host)

have it.

John (host)

We had the big wheel, remember?

The topical wheel.

Oh, the wheel,

Gordy (host)

yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, we had that.

We had a nice set there.

John (host)

Oh, yeah.

Good background.

Somebody painted that.

Somebody painted

Gordy (host)

that.

Yeah.

Wonder what happened to that.

John (host)

Well, you have it do you have it in your basement or anything?

I know I wish I know I have it on the ceiling and her bedroom What a turn on yeah I So

Gordy (host)

recall said it was a picture of the Capitol

John (host)

does it was right, but it was very nice painting gorgeous.

Gordy (host)

Yeah Look at the sunshine out there this

John (host)

morning across the main street really is thank you Brittany Merlot for this

Gordy (host)

Looks like it's going to be a pretty nice day.

It's 49 degrees currently, according to the WMDX.

Thermometer outside our WMDX window.

You got your Samsung WMDX

John (host)

watch.

I do, but it keeps changing the notifications.

Can't

Sam (contributor)

keep

John (host)

up with the

Sam (contributor)

Kenya.

John (host)

I got a notification that actually gave me the weather forecast.

Sam (contributor)

I was going to say, there's just so much weather happening.

You need to be notified of it all the time, every day.

John (host)

24-7.

Sam (contributor)

I

John (host)

know.

I mean, it really is complete.

Let me just

Sam (contributor)

show it on

John (host)

my phone here.

Oh, here it is.

Okay.

Now I know where I'm getting the weather forecast from.

49 degrees currently.

Yes.

All right.

And a high today of about the 77.

Gordy (host)

Wow.

Okay.

Well, that's you

John (host)

look a little shocked.

I am

Gordy (host)

shocked.

But

John (host)

let's get

Gordy (host)

out the weather lottery ball machine.

All right.

And can we get that going there?

SPEAKER_??

Okay.

Gordy (host)

Here we go first ball coming up It's a seven second ball coming up

John (host)

It's also How is that possible?

I know

Gordy (host)

Sam's gonna miss this part of the show This is his last day.

Yeah episode number 400 right Sam.

Sam (contributor)

That's right.

Yeah, you got plans for after the show Oh, of course.

I'm gonna go get snot sling and drunk.

Gordy (host)

Okay.

Sam (contributor)

That's what I

Gordy (host)

thought

Yeah, we'll come along with you

Sam (contributor)

right after the show.

Sounds like a good

Gordy (host)

time.

I'll start doing shots.

I started before we got

John (host)

on here.

Yeah, so, you know, I want to just advise everybody if they're watching right now on their phones, which they normally are driving into work and listening to us Bluetooth into their car stereo.

We have our new t-shirts on.

Yes, we do.

Gordy (host)

We got the new t-shirts in last night.

John (host)

The Johnny Gordy t-shirts.

Here they are.

Gordy (host)

Yeah.

I don't know if people can see them yet, but we'll,

John (host)

uh,

Gordy (host)

we'll model them.

John (host)

We'll put it on

Gordy (host)

black t-shirts.

Come on.

Yeah.

We love black t-shirts.

Yes.

So, uh, and those are available already in our WMDX store.

If you go to the, uh, website.

And

John (host)

we also have the, uh, John and Gordy fake pack of cigarettes that you can tie into the sleeve.

of your t-shirt.

Right?

It looked like you're really tough.

Really cool.

That's what they used to do back in the day.

You remember

Sam (contributor)

that?

John (host)

Have you ever seen anybody do that?

Sam (contributor)

I don't know if I've actually seen people do it, but I've heard it referenced in songs before.

Yeah.

Right?

Are they candy cigarettes?

When you like blow out of them, do they pop out a little candy?

Yes, candy

Gordy (host)

cigarettes.

Yeah, they, I think they still make those

John (host)

that day.

It was kind of funny.

They call them candy cigarettes, but then they change it to sticks.

Candy sticks.

Not really cigarettes.

Didn't want to give anybody the wrong impression.

Gee, I thought I bought cigarettes.

Yeah.

No,

Gordy (host)

it's... Okay, well, so it's gonna be a beautiful day.

Yeah.

We'll check in with Brittany Merlot a little bit later on.

We'll also, in about 10 minutes or so, we'll talk to Pam Yankee and find out what's going

John (host)

on in her.

It's got quite a list of

Gordy (host)

topics.

I know it.

And we'll check in with her.

Also, Savannah Tome Olson.

We'll give us some news and...

Rocker will be in the studio with Maxing Preview later today.

John (host)

We got so much stuff, too.

I mean, a little

Gordy (host)

farewell to Sam, too.

John (host)

Really?

Do we have time for

Gordy (host)

that?

We'll see if we have time.

Put it toward the end of the show.

We'll try to squeeze

John (host)

that

Gordy (host)

in.

John (host)

Yeah, we don't have time for most of my topics.

So why would we have time for Sam's last show?

Gordy (host)

Yeah.

And

John (host)

it is a

Gordy (host)

free ticket Friday.

Oh, it is.

Yeah, we're going to give away a four pack of Brewer tickets today.

And that game is Saturday, June 7th versus San Diego in Milwaukee.

So I don't know.

I guess we could start this anytime according to the

Sam (contributor)

rules here.

Gordy (host)

We could Sam is nodding his head.

Yes.

That's good.

Glad you agree with me.

Sam (contributor)

You know, I'm excited for after this week when I can start entering all the civic media contests.

Gordy (host)

That's

Sam (contributor)

right.

It's

Gordy (host)

gonna be great.

Yeah, okay.

We'll see if you win anything.

Sam (contributor)

Where's John going?

I have no idea.

He's grabbing another book for his mic stand.

Gordy (host)

Walking behind me.

I

John (host)

don't know.

I'm adjusting my mic stand by putting another book under the mic.

Sam (contributor)

You're just so freakishly tall.

You think they would get a longer stick for the mic stand.

Freakishly tall.

Gordy (host)

Okay, this is your chance.

John (host)

If the honesty comes

Gordy (host)

out now.

Anything goes today.

Hang on a second.

We've got free ticket Friday going on today.

And this is your chance to win a four pack of Brewer tickets.

Four tickets going on to, again, going for Saturday's June 7th game against San Diego.

Okay, all you have to do is really having trouble getting started here in this one.

All you need to do is listen for the keyword to text in to enter this statewide contest.

It goes on all day and every host will have a different keyword, meaning you'll have five chances to win today.

Five chances.

So our show's keyword for the four pack of Brewer tickets, keyword is crew.

Crew okay, like brew crew.

So it'd be crew.

Sam (contributor)

So that

Gordy (host)

needs to be the first word in your text.

Okay

Sam (contributor)

crew

Gordy (host)

C-R-E-W if you don't know how to spell crew You're on your own I guess But anyway, well you're pretty tough this morning Drawing the line of the

Julian (contributor)

same easy to do this

Gordy (host)

Just download the civic media app and the Apple or Google store and find our station that would be WMDX and Use the text button to send the keyword crew

to be entered in.

By the way, there's also something new on that area of the app.

You can send us a voice note.

Oh, you can.

We're not sure exactly how that works, or if anybody's tried that yet, or if it's been tested.

Sam (contributor)

We've gotten one or two, actually.

How do

Gordy (host)

we get it?

I mean, does it come as

Sam (contributor)

an email?

Well, I'm not surprised that you don't understand it, because it's a very Gen Z thing to send voice notes.

It is.

That's

John (host)

what everybody's doing now.

Sam (contributor)

But it's like a...

It's like halfway between a call and a text message.

You record a little something when a listener can say something to John and Gordy, then it gets sent to us both as an audio file of them speaking and as a transcript.

So it'll show up right in our text line as a text that you can read out.

John (host)

Oh, okay.

So we will see those voice

Sam (contributor)

texts

John (host)

on the

Gordy (host)

screen

Sam (contributor)

here.

Good.

But what if we want to hear it?

Gordy (host)

How do we hear it?

Can we hear it?

Dom

Sam (contributor)

over here could play it, probably.

I think I haven't tried it.

But if you, dear listener... Have

John (host)

you tried to do this?

We

Sam (contributor)

were going to try it today.

You've got some peace of mind that you want to share with John and Gordy.

Your two cents about the show.

Feel free to chime in.

John (host)

Be the first voice text for us here

Sam (contributor)

on the

John (host)

program.

We're breaking

Sam (contributor)

new ground.

It's a

Gordy (host)

voice note.

John (host)

Yeah.

And I just want to mention too that, uh, uh, and we apologize, uh, the John and Gordy store apologized for the new tariffs that have been put back on.

We've got tariffs on all our merch.

Yes.

They're

Gordy (host)

back.

Okay.

Uh, good enough.

That's all I got.

I ain't got nothing else.

Well,

John (host)

you know, we always take a look at what's going on.

Oh yeah, the National Day calendar and the history stuff.

And because it's important to know what day we're skipping over.

Gordy (host)

Right.

Yeah, exactly.

Let me get to that.

Hang on.

Be with you in just a minute here.

Okay,

John (host)

we'll take your time.

Well, the

Gordy (host)

pound

John (host)

comp must be really high today.

I'm gonna go

Gordy (host)

get a coffee.

If we were going to talk about the National Day today, it's National Creativity Day.

It's also National Mint Julep Day.

Have you ever taken to Mint Julep?

I don't really find that very good.

National Hole in My Bucket Day.

I don't know what that's about.

National Water of Flower Day.

Okay.

What do we have in the history books there, Bruno?

We

John (host)

have some techs coming in.

We have voice techs coming in.

Oh, they're trying to figure that out, huh?

Some tech issues.

Okay.

You have voice techs here and, you know, Catherine, of course, you know, gave us a call as she always does every morning.

Do

Sam (contributor)

we have that intro for Catherine yet?

We're working on that.

John (host)

The woman with the whip.

Sam (contributor)

How do you not know about this?

Do we have that up there in the drop-ins?

We've got this.

Gordy (host)

Okay, let's hear it.

John (host)

Can you do it?

Sam (contributor)

Oh, there we go.

There we go.

There we go.

That's a good track there.

John (host)

Now, if you guys can integrate that in with the musical intro that we have for it, I have it in the cut tracks.

Sam (contributor)

It's like an old country song, isn't it?

The

John (host)

Lady with the Whip?

It is.

It's a Western country song.

It's ridiculous.

OK.

Gordy (host)

So Catherine texted us or voiced.

Now

John (host)

she's

Gordy (host)

saying, oh my god.

Just sent

John (host)

one.

Oh my

Gordy (host)

god.

Okay.

Yeah, which means we've gone off the rails again.

Do we have any?

Is there any history about today?

Yeah, is there?

John (host)

There's a national calendar, right?

Julian (contributor)

Let's go into the history.

Let's go into history.

Yep.

I have some history for you guys.

All right.

1922.

Warren G. Harding actually becomes the first president heard on the radio.

Wow, that must have been really exciting.

The first political talk show.

There you go, in the 1934 Nissan Motor Company was founded.

That's actually my car too.

You got a Nissan?

I do have a Nissan, a white Nissan.

What kind of Nissan do you have?

2018 is the central.

So I'm kind of, yeah, I'm very bougie.

Boozy?

What is that?

What does

John (host)

he say?

What does Julian think about that word?

Boozy.

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Julian (contributor)

Okay.

Any birthdays?

Birthdays?

1908.

We got Mel Blanc.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah.

And then in 1926, you got James Whitman, Macklemore, who's the founder of Burger King.

Okay.

That's fantastic.

Now, do you know who Mel

Gordy (host)

Blanc was?

Tom?

Yeah.

That's good, Sam.

I wasn't asking you, but that's thanks for

Sam (contributor)

piping.

Gordy (host)

I was gonna ask that to Dom, but that's okay.

John (host)

You've already, you

Gordy (host)

can't let go, can you?

Gotta be...

Here

John (host)

for one more day.

Frequent guest on I Love Lucy.

Oh, really?

Yeah, Mel Blank.

Yeah.

And The Tonight

Gordy (host)

Show.

He

John (host)

stopped there a few

Gordy (host)

times.

Yep.

Okay.

All right, well, we're just getting started on a Friday morning and got a lot ahead of us today.

So stay tuned for more of John and Gordy.

You can send us a text.

You can call us 608-879-8255 back in a few moments.

All

Sam (contributor)

right.

John (host)

WMDX.

Yeah,

Gordy (co-host)

22.7.

Ami Yaki (contributor)

Get down.

Here we go.

Yes, it's 49 degrees.

Highs today, around 77.

Bright, beautiful sunshine to start your Friday.

And now it's time to check in with our friend Pam

Gordy (co-host)

Yaki.

Yes, as you can tell, that's her theme song right here with the egg

Ami Yaki (contributor)

report.

Good morning, Pam.

Pam Jahnke (guest)

Morning fellas.

Yeah, you know, you talk about the start of the day, there's starting to see a little bit of smoke.

I was talking with my weather guy this morning and we've got air quality advisory and effects pretty much for all of Wisconsin till six tomorrow morning.

I must have been sleeping under a rock or something.

I did not realize Canada had more wildfires again this year.

Gordy (co-host)

Yeah, they've got quite a few.

I heard a story on the way into work.

It's

Pam Jahnke (guest)

just

Gordy (co-host)

unbelievable.

They're really trying to control it.

And I guess it's not like just one big fire.

It's a bunch of smoth fires all over their provinces.

So it's going to be kind of tough to control from what I understand.

Pam Jahnke (guest)

That's the same here.

So hopefully hopefully it only lasts, you know for 24 hours around us That would be the that would be ideal.

Yeah, I'll

Gordy (co-host)

summer long last year.

I think it

Pam Jahnke (guest)

was always

Gordy (co-host)

smoky around here.

Yeah.

Yeah All right.

Well, let's get to the first big topic you brought up here.

It's the teacher turner turnover the 19 egg teachers making a move

Pam Jahnke (guest)

Yeah, so I'm telling that it is

the education consultant at the Department of Public Instruction and she kind of oversees agriculture, natural resources and food and she's also the FFA advisor and she's been a buddy of mine since she was a state FFA officer herself and she said this is what she kind of called the crazy time of year because they start hearing rumors about teacher changes maybe a couple years ago as we had a big swath of retirement.

And she said from now until probably the end of the Wisconsin State FFA Convention, which is the first full week in June, she'll be getting updates and reports on what's going on.

She said 19 out of right now, last year they ended up with more than 60 just agriculture educators that made a move one way or the other.

So a lot of them are obviously going to a different program, a program that offers maybe some more opportunity.

Some of them

go into industry and leave the profession entirely.

And the other thing that Sally was quick to point out is that we're still seeing a lot of growth in schools that want to offer agriculture curriculum.

For example, there's a Lutheran school up in, I want to see towards Winnebago, Lake Winnebago that has done some agriculture classes.

Now they want to go whole hog and get involved in the FFA too.

So there's always a constant demand for these agriculture teachers.

And, you know, that's the real challenge.

They've had to flex over the past couple of years and allow people that don't necessarily have a degree in agriculture education, but have practical knowledge in the industry to step in for some of the vacancies so that programs can keep going forward.

But yeah, that's kind of just the beginning of the conversation from what she was telling me.

She'll expect more of these.

announcements or moves from now probably almost until we start the next school year.

Gordy (co-host)

Now does this have anything to do with UW Extension programs that they have for ag?

Pam Jahnke (guest)

Not not so much.

UW Extension is kind of a separate I mean they obviously in agriculture we all work together but UW Extension would be kind of your outer

support mechanism for a lot of the things that FFA kids might do you know the county fair infrastructure you know tractor safety those kinds of things that's where we might partner up with extension but these ag educators remember to be on agriculture educator in Wisconsin and FFA chapter advisor that's a 12 month contract most teachers as you know only have what is it eight months so that they get their summer

John (host)

off

Pam Jahnke (guest)

but the

The ag teacher must sign a 12 month contract because they're going to have the state FFA convention in June.

They'll have the county fair in July.

They'll have the state fair in August.

I mean, all these things continue to pop up during the summer years.

So schools that want agriculture education and an FFA have to give that teacher a 12 month contract.

That's something else that kind of gets worked in the mix when it comes to recruiting candidates.

Ami Yaki (contributor)

Now, Pam, I understand it's going to be a busy weekend in Green County.

They're having the breakfast on the farm tomorrow morning in Monroe, right?

Pam Jahnke (guest)

Yes, indeed you do.

Starting serving tomorrow morning at 6 a.m., and I'll tell you, Green County has been doing this for a long time.

They know how to put on the old feed bag.

They have got literally anything that you want as far as breakfast.

Feed bag.

You look at the Green County Ag Chess website and the volume, just the volume of food they go through in the morning is just amazing.

And like I say, the volunteers are what makes it happen in Green County.

So they are going to be at Heaven View Dairy just outside of Monroe.

And I've been kind of preaching it all week long.

Although the weather looks beautiful, I still suggest that people take the shuttle bus from the Walmart in Monroe.

What you don't stop and think about until you're there.

is you are going to be parked on a hayfield.

That hayfield probably picked up rain this week.

That means that your family car that's accustomed to concrete and pavement might be somewhat surprised at how slippery and snotty feeling a field can get when a couple other hundred people have been ahead of you.

Well, and then, you know, then it's the kids get the kids out of the car and walk through this and the stroller doesn't go well over alfalfa stubble.

I get it all.

So like I said,

Take the shuttle.

I take the shuttle.

I take the shuttle and I know what I'm getting into.

I take the shuttle.

Gordy (co-host)

That's a great idea.

We're used to parking in fields at Alpine Valley.

Remember those days?

Pam Jahnke (guest)

One place you

Gordy (co-host)

learn how to drive on dirt and mud.

Pam Jahnke (guest)

And deal with all the elements in many different

Ami Yaki (contributor)

ways.

We're almost out of time, Pam.

We just want to mention next Saturday is cows on the concourse, right?

Pam Jahnke (guest)

And again, they're calling for volunteers.

They've been running a little shy of people available.

So take advantage.

That'll be right across the street from the farmers market next Saturday.

Ami Yaki (contributor)

Very good.

All right.

Hey, Amiaki.

Thank you so much.

Have a great weekend.

Appreciate

Gordy (co-host)

it.

Thanks, ma'am.

OK.

Take care.

Ami Yaki (contributor)

All right.

Wow.

Coming back

Gordy (co-host)

with more.

Ami Yaki (contributor)

Great stuff.

John and Gordy in the morning.

SPEAKER_??

Stay with us.

Oh, God.

John (host)

you

Audio Clip Playback

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

John

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber,

Sam

you go and do something like this.

We can duck and cover.

There's a fallen shelter right there.

There's no way to survive this, you idiot.

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Idiocracy.

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

Sam

Well, it's day to day, you know, surviving it or not.

I'm not sure if we're going to make it.

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I don't know.

Sam

Me either.

Me either.

I really don't know.

It is 635 and WMDX 92.7.

That's

Gordy

a cool 49 degrees highs today.

in the mid to upper 70s.

It is a free ticket Friday.

Yeah.

Once again, the key word, if you are interested in winning a four pack of Brewer tickets to the game on June 7 versus San Diego, the key word this time around is crew.

That's C R E W crew.

Yeah.

And there'll be other chances to win.

In fact, each

Hosts through the day will have different keywords, meaning you'll have five chances to win today.

And again, it's a four pack of brewer tickets, club level seats.

These are great seats.

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Find our station, WMDX, and use the text button to use the keyword.

All right.

Do the keyword.

It's crew.

Okay.

Crew.

Brew crew.

Yes.

Yeah, you got it.

Yeah.

Like Brew Crew.

Yeah.

Only it's just crew.

It's just crew.

Yes.

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Sam

All right, you know, we've got a couple of cuts here.

We're working on the fly, right?

This is cut 191 and then following that, eventually cut 192.

Thank you for that.

If I ever get there.

All right, let's go to cut number one.

This is Treasury Secretary Scott Bassett.

He has a tough time with numbers.

Gordy

But he's Treasury Secretary.

I

Sam

know.

I know.

He's got

Gordy

a little work to

Sam

do.

I guess maybe

Gordy

this

Sam

job was a surprise to him and he's got a little catching up to do.

Gordy

Well, why do you say that?

Well, what's going on in his life?

I'm seeing that

Sam

because I want to first play the cut,

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all right?

Sam

Okay.

And then we'll explain how inaccurate he is.

So let's play cutting 191.

Okay.

There are several

Scott Bassett (audio clip)

components there.

And so if we unpack it, there is the growth, the potential growth of the debt.

But what's more important is that we grow the economy faster.

So what we've seen under the past four years, and what we inherited, I inherited 6.7% deficit to GDP, which was the highest deficit when we were not at war, not in a recession.

Wrong.

We've been trying to bring down the spending.

All

Sam

right, so let's correct

Scott Bassett (audio clip)

that.

He said

Sam

he inherited a 6.7% deficit.

That's what

John

he

Sam

said.

The GDP from the Biden administration.

You know, it was the envy of the world, the Biden administration, from what I remember, which he said was the highest deficit in a time of not war.

in not a recession.

That's

John

what

Gordy

I heard him say.

Well, if

Sam

we just fact-checked it, I mean, if we actually look it up and maybe see it on the front page of the book, you know, deficit to GDP.

Yeah.

In 2021, the Biden administration inherited a 14.9% deficit to GDP.

Now, you best...

Messon is really angry about, you know, inheriting a 6.7% deficit to GDP.

But you know what?

It was 14.9% when Biden got in after the first Trump Trump administration.

Yeah.

So,

Gordy

you

Sam

know, just

Gordy

good to point that out.

Same thing.

Sam

No recession.

No war.

There we go.

Had to correct it.

Thank you for doing that.

Okay.

So officially on the books now and

in recording history.

I'm sure Mr. Basant will show you a

Gordy

nice thank

Sam

you note.

Pointing that out.

Gordy

Well, I'm just

Sam

trying to help him warm up to the job.

Gordy

Yeah,

Sam

he seems a little stiff most of the time.

What is with that guy?

Gordy

Yeah,

Sam

need some flexible exercising of some sort.

Okay, now let's get to one of our favorites, Tommy Tuberville, right?

Oh boy.

I mean, this guy is something else.

What a piece of work.

He's down there in Alabama.

On Fox News, Tommy sprung this most ridiculous announcement.

Let's listen to cut 192.

Tommy Tuberville (audio clip)

Okay.

Boys Tucker and Troy were educated here.

It's home.

We've made a lot of friends and a lot of family.

So a few years ago, I decided to give back to this great country and fight.

President Trump was a guy that really was behind me in doing the Senate race.

He's been behind me ever since.

And today, I will announce that I will be the future governor of the great state of Alabama.

Sam

What?

Gordy

No!

No, no, no!

Bad idea!

Sam

Bad

Gordy

idea!

Sam

Stop him!

Don't do it!

So, you know, it's funny, just hearing Tuberville say that his boys were educated in Alabama, so... Wow!

They even learned a lot from Tommy, I'm sure.

Not a bragging point.

First, Alabama...

has had a Republican governor for the last few decades, okay?

They are 45th in education, 49th in workplace conditions, 42nd in job opportunities, 45th in happiness, they're not happy down there, and also has one of the highest total rates of gun deaths.

25% compared to New York City or New York State rather at 4.7% 25% Alabama 4.7% in New York State a blue state Hmm.

Gordy

Well Alabama's got a little work to do you know

Maybe

Sam

that's what he wants to change.

Those

Gordy

are

Sam

bad numbers to brag about.

Gordy

But again, they

Sam

keep electing Republican governors that carry out this horror horrific.

policy apparently.

Not much has changed.

Gordy

It's stuck

Sam

in the mud there.

Although we have really good policy coming up here

Gordy

in the state.

Do

Sam

we?

Yeah, I've got a, this is an interesting story and Middleton has mentioned in it.

The Wall Street Journal reports school systems are building out new curricula for shop classes that merge old school skills like we're working and welding and stuff like that.

You know, we made some shoeboxes and...

I don't know weird things in electric motors very rudimentary electric motors and why were you making

Producer/Engineer

shoeboxes and electric motors in shop class?

Gordy

Did they have shop class when you went to high school?

Producer/Engineer

Yeah,

Gordy

it was

Producer/Engineer

mandatory in middle school.

I had to take

Gordy

a year and

Producer/Engineer

then you could take like more advanced ones in high school I never did

Sam

even back even even back then

Right.

I asked, why are we making shoeboxes?

Producer/Engineer

Oh, God.

It must have been a pretty fancy

Sam

shoebox you were making.

What did they want me to do?

Go out and shine shoes for a while.

Great,

Gordy

great training,

Sam

folks.

Gordy

All right.

I remember shop class.

It was in eighth grade, actually, seventh and eighth grade, middle school.

They call it middle school now.

It was junior high back then.

I made a spice rack,

John

but

Gordy

it took all

John

semester.

But I

Gordy

didn't know what I was doing with the power tools.

But, you know, there were must have been a hell of a nice spice.

Well, it was very simple.

Let me put it that way.

And it was not impressive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I passed the class, but just barely.

But, you know, I'm

Sam

still using an item that my son made in shop class.

It holds remote controls.

Gordy

Oh, that's nice.

Yeah, it's really

Sam

cool.

I know, isn't it?

That's nice.

And then, of course, something that became outdated even since they were in school, it was a board you hung up on the wall and it had another piece of board at the top that you could screw down and hold a tablet on.

So you could create your grocery list or some shopping list and you could write it down on paper.

No one does that anymore.

No.

So sadly, we had to, you know, you got rid of that away.

Yeah.

But that is sad.

But those are shop classes.

That's it.

But wait, hold on.

High tech instruction is now in those shop classes.

That's right.

Autumn.

Gordy

High tech.

Sam

Yes.

Yes.

Automated machinery.

And here's the Middleton connection.

After Wisconsin's Middleton High School spent $90 million updating its facilities to include a high-tech new manufacturing lab.

And I remember they had the laser printer where they could just manufacture stuff out of plastic.

And I think there's even a metal one now, so.

Yeah, like a big 3d printer 3d printer.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, okay pretty slick

Producer/Engineer

stuff

Sam

Yeah, it is pretty slick which features a fishbowl style window That's what they have in Middleton.

Okay to watch computer-controlled robot arms the building things Wow, yeah, that's pretty cool and The rest of the state kind of got interested in this model that Middleton High School put in place this state-of-the-art shop class Okay, so now it's rising up these shop classes are

rise in the ball through the high schools throughout the state if they can afford it, right?

Gordy

So AI is taking over automation.

Roughly

Sam

a quarter of Middleton's 2,300 students, this is a quarter of them, have taken at least one of the school's classes in construction, manufacturing, or woodworking.

A massive proportion, especially considering that many school systems eradicated.

shop classes in the 90s, 2000s.

They did?

Yes, they got rid of them.

Oh man.

Producer/Engineer

What was the

Sam

headline

Producer/Engineer

that Gordy, you and I saw on CNN this morning about?

the future of AI.

It was going to be like a white-collar bloodbath

Gordy

or something like that.

That's right.

Oh, yes.

It's creating a white-collar bloodbath.

So it's a good thing we're bringing

Producer/Engineer

these shop classes back.

Gordy

Yeah, middle

Sam

management's going away.

Gordy

That's right.

What are they going to do with all those power tools?

I mean, come on.

Oh, I know.

I know.

By the way, Sam, are we still able to take phone calls?

We can

Producer/Engineer

take phone calls.

You just won't see them,

Gordy

so we'll have to let you know.

Wave your hands like this.

Create a

Producer/Engineer

ruckus,

Gordy

yeah.

Create a

Sam

ruckus.

So anyway, it's manual labor positions as high-skill, high-wage jobs now.

So that's part of the shop class curriculum now.

Fantastic stuff, isn't it?

It's weird because when you think about it, AI has resulted in the return of shop classes.

All those shop teachers are back in business.

Absolutely.

They're coming

Gordy

back.

Bring them on back.

They got tired of the shoeboxes, too.

Sam

Right.

My

Gordy

God.

I've had a lot of them retired and, you know, went

Sam

back

Gordy

to their home

Sam

shops.

Did you ever plenish?

What?

A metal plate, you know, plenish.

Do you know what that is?

What?

Where you use a ball peen hammer, the ball

John

side of it.

Sam

Yeah.

And you hit this metal,

Gordy

soft

Sam

metal.

Right.

And it becomes indented.

Gordy

Yeah.

It creates a nice.

A lot

Sam

of fun.

Yeah.

Surfacy type of

Gordy

did you make something like

Sam

that?

I don't know you needed a ball

Producer/Engineer

you

Sam

could But a salad plate made out of soft aluminum of some sort, but anyway, it was fun stuff It's called planishing, huh?

Gordy

I believe it is.

Sam

Yeah.

Yeah

You know, I couldn't make heads or tails at a shop class.

So I took drafting.

And

Gordy

that was kind of fun.

I like drafting.

I enjoyed

Sam

drafting.

Mechanical pencils

Gordy

were fun, weren't they?

So much better than wood.

Yes.

And those T-squares.

Wow.

I know.

Good stuff.

Pro tractors.

It was a great weapon in the hallway.

Yes, they were.

It is 6.48.

We're coming back with more of John and Gordy in the morning after this.

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Mm-hmm in the city

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it going there

John Peterson

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Gordy Young

I know

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well it took me a couple weeks but yeah I got it I got it I appreciate it I almost called you Fonzie

You got kind of a Fonzie thing going on.

Gordy Young

Really?

Why do you say that?

I don't know.

John Peterson

I'm saying it's kind of cool.

I don't know.

That's all I'm saying.

Sam

Fonzie's a pretty cool guy.

John Peterson

He's got a

Sam

statue built of him.

Gordy Young

Have you ever

Sam

seen the statue of

Gordy Young

Milwaukee?

Oh, yeah.

Well, good.

Wouldn't exactly say that, though, but, you know.

What?

You don't think it's cool?

Do you think he

Sam

looks like

Gordy Young

Fonzie?

The

Sam

statue are him.

Gordy Young

Or Dom doesn't look like... Are you saying that Dom is just cool, basically?

He's got the Fonzie cool.

He's got the cool.

That's what you're saying.

He's got this hair thing going on.

Oh man, I appreciate it.

Great clips.

Sam

Great clips.

Do you

Gordy Young

ride a motorcycle?

I don't ride a motorcycle, no.

Okay, great clips.

John Peterson

So

Gordy Young

just so everybody knows,

John Peterson

this is Sam's last day working here and he'll be moving on to other things.

I've been banished.

Well, okay.

I didn't have to bring

Gordy Young

that up.

I'm sorry.

Put out the pasture, so to speak.

It's

Sam

Liberation Day.

I've finally, I've been

Gordy Young

chained to this

Sam

desk for so long.

I'm finally being set free.

Gordy Young

That's right.

It's John and Gordy's Liberation Day today.

400 episodes today.

I mean, Trump had his.

John Peterson

Yeah.

Sam

That's right.

Gordy Young

By the

John Peterson

way, yeah, Elon Musk is going to have a, they're going to have a little ceremony in the Oval Office for his last day today.

Gordy Young

So isn't that a coincidence?

Careful event that's gonna

John Peterson

be you.

Oh my god.

It's

Sam

all a facade.

Maybe it's not actually his last day.

John Peterson

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Gordy Young

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Well, today we found out that the the founder of Burger King.

Yes.

It's his birthday and Mark from the sack.

Yeah.

So the taxi said the old Burger King ads have it your way.

There's this creepy Burger King ad.

Yes, where you turn around and there was the king looking at you in unexpected places.

Yes.

I

John Peterson

remember those ads.

Yeah.

It was kind of cool.

Gordy Young

I know.

I know.

The whole thing was surreal.

It was almost like somebody was on an acid trip writing up these ads in the first place.

I mean, the Burger King head was just scary.

John Peterson

Yeah.

And his expression never changed.

He had kind of a weird smile.

It

Gordy Young

was

John Peterson

smiling.

But it was kind of, I don't know, ominous.

Gordy Young

Yes, it got a lot of press because it was so bizarre and so weird at the time.

I got to say this, you know, we were talking about Alon his last day and appearing in the White House.

What a celebration that'll be.

He's acting like.

Well, okay, I've done what I can in politics.

It failed miserably.

But I got to get back to Tesla because they're having a difficult time.

It's a tough time for them.

I have kind of destroyed the whole name of Tesla.

Now I'm going to go back and I'm going to focus on Tesla again.

And I'm thinking that is the worst thing you could do for Tesla.

Isn't it?

Didn't that occur to you right away?

Yes.

Tesla doesn't want this guy back.

No, they don't want anything to do with it.

He's gone, man.

He's poisoned.

He's killing.

brand he's killed the brand and now he's going back he's gonna focus on Tesla by going back to it and helping them out in what way you know and is you gonna help this this company out at this point

You're poison.

John Peterson

Yeah.

Gordy Young

Oh, it was just

John Peterson

something that occurred to me.

We'll be standing by for that Oval

Gordy Young

Office visit.

We'll have a play.

We'll describe it.

We're going to come back.

We're going to interrupt regular civic media programming to cover the action.

Sure we will.

Are you freaking out?

Oh, we got a phone call.

OK.

OK.

All right, let's go to the phone.

Joe

Sam

on the line.

Gordy Young

OK.

Oh, Joe.

Hi, Joe.

Good morning, Joe.

Joe (caller)

Oh, I'm sad.

Time is sad and happy.

Times of transition.

People hadn't packing up and moving on.

Other people moving in.

Can you go over again?

How did you drive him out?

How did you drive

John Peterson

him out?

What did he do?

Well, he's been with us for 400 episodes, Joe.

Yeah.

Gordy Young

And, you know,

John Peterson

he burned out.

He

Joe (caller)

was with us

John Peterson

since day one.

No, he's moving on in his career.

What did you explain, Sam?

What do you do?

Well, he's kind of wrecked our brand.

Gordy Young

So just like you want.

Yeah,

Sam

I've ruined the Johnny Gordon brand.

Well, yes, this summer I'm working at a scout camp that I used to work at.

And then in the fall, working on becoming a teacher.

So I'll be subbing with MMSD.

Joe (caller)

Oh, good for you.

That's great.

I hope that you can indicate to the students how your time in this radio show made a difference to your career.

I think that's an important thing to do because it's like important to getting up early, getting there on time, right?

All of that.

Letting them never

Sam

to go into media.

Joe (caller)

Welcome, Joe.

Gordy Young

Thank you, Joe.

Joe (caller)

Thank you,

Gordy Young

Joe.

Yeah, we drove him out of the business.

In fact, my advice was get into teaching.

We'll have

John Peterson

more on that coming up in our next episode.

We'll say goodbye to Sam, along with everything else we got on John

Gordy Young

and Gordy in the morning.

We're

John Peterson

gonna say goodbye to everything else we got.

No, no.

Oh, never mind.

We're coming back.

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Gordy (host)

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Let's give them some better talk about.

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Cab, cab, cab.

Always gossiping.

It's the John and Gordy show.

This is high-five once.

And that's the way it

John (host)

is.

We'll do it live.

Savannah Tomey Olson (news contributor)

On 92.7 FM, WMDX.

Take it away,

John (host)

boys.

Gordy (host)

All right,

John (host)

we're going to, in just a few moments, get into the Make America Healthy again report.

that turned out to be so well

Gordy (host)

written.

Can't wait to hear more about

John (host)

that.

It is 706.

Gordy (host)

We've got sunshine highs today in the mid to upper 70s.

It's going to be beautiful all day long.

Joining us now, Savannah Tomey Olson from our news department.

Good morning Savannah.

Savannah Tomey Olson (news contributor)

Good morning guys.

How you doing?

Gordy (host)

Good.

John (host)

It's a little sad.

It's a very sad day today.

We've got the handkerchiefs, a big stack of them right here.

Right.

And, you know, we're saying goodbye to Sam, so very pivotal.

I made this show the success that it was today, and it's a downhill slide from here.

Savannah Tomey Olson (news contributor)

End of an era, really.

Gordy (host)

It is.

It is.

John (host)

You're gonna

Gordy (host)

make me cry, John.

Okay, yeah.

We don't want you to cry.

Are you

John (host)

sure?

No, don't!

Oh, no!

Don't do it!

Oh, no, there he goes.

The signature Sam cry.

We love it.

All right, we'll have to record that.

We'll

Gordy (host)

have to record that.

A puddle of tears over there.

Savannah, what's going on?

John (host)

What are

Gordy (host)

you covering?

What do you got?

What kind of stories are you working on?

Savannah Tomey Olson (news contributor)

The thing I've been watching for days now is the meritor strike.

So nurses, the union met with the hospital yesterday for a bargaining session.

They had a mediator there.

And I was kind of on pins and needles all afternoon.

I thought like, okay, we're we might hear something this afternoon.

And no dice.

So they gave an update last night saying that they're meeting in an hour this morning to get right back to the table because it's been it's been an interesting week.

Meritor says everything has gone really smoothly with all their traveling nurses and I have heard from some nurses who say that you know they might struggle for a couple months here just losing out on one week of pay.

So it'll be really interesting to see what happens the rest of the day today, especially after they start meeting here at eight o'clock.

Their big things are safety, staffing, and pay.

That's what they keep saying.

John (host)

All right.

Well, that sounds touching.

God, I mean, especially with the administration that we have now, all the cuts they're making with Medicaid and...

pay going down and compensation being limited.

We'll see how all of that kind of washes out in the end here, but it is, they are pivotal.

You know, the nurses, they're the ones making the whole thing work.

Gordy (host)

How are they getting by without the

John (host)

nurses on strike?

Yeah,

Gordy (host)

that's gonna be very tough.

They have

Savannah Tomey Olson (news contributor)

back ups.

They have traveling nurses, so they have.

hundreds of nurses who have flown in from all over the country, traveling nurses are very expensive, as you can imagine.

And part of that and part of why people sign up to be traveling nurses is because they make good bank doing that.

But I'm sure the hospital does not want to do it much longer simply because it's pricey.

It's really expensive to do.

John (host)

And you kind of know the system you're working in.

Sure.

Right.

What else you got?

Savannah Tomey Olson (news contributor)

Well, another thing that we're watching is what's going on with the Trump administration and Chinese students.

So UW-Madison's international student population, about half of them are Chinese.

It's the largest population from any area when it comes to our international students.

So now that the administration says they're going to, I believe the word he used was aggressively revoke the visas of Chinese students.

UW is trying to figure out what that means and trying to provide resources to those Chinese students because it's a huge, huge portion, the largest single portion from any one area.

3,400 students is a lot of people who are invested in their education here in Madison.

John (host)

It's just outrageous.

I mean, this is just punishing the next generation.

I just don't get this.

This is the weirdest part of the Trump administration, punishing students.

making sure they don't get an education, right?

And then attacking the colleges.

Yeah, it's

Gordy (host)

odd.

All

John (host)

right.

It's

Gordy (host)

very strange.

Savannah, anything else?

Any other fun stories coming up?

Anything kicker wise?

Savannah Tomey Olson (news contributor)

Well, I think the big one is Sam.

Isn't that?

Well, it

Gordy (host)

is.

John (host)

You know, you're right.

That is breaking news.

Yeah, you're right.

Yeah.

All right, Sam.

Put that in the headlines if you can.

I don't know if I've ever been news before.

Wow.

Yeah.

All

Gordy (host)

right, Savannah, thank you.

John (host)

Savannah, Tommy Olsen.

Gordy (host)

We appreciate

John (host)

it.

You

Gordy (host)

have a good weekend.

Thank you.

OK, that's all

John (host)

right.

So you want to get to the big story or do you have something else you want to bring up before we get to making America healthy again with misinterpretated reports?

Gordy (host)

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Absolutely.

All

John (host)

right.

All right.

Well,

Gordy (host)

over to you,

John (host)

Johnny.

You know, RFK Jr.

is having a tough time adapting to his new position.

Really?

Maybe he didn't think he was gonna get it, but, you know, he's forced into it, and now there he is.

He's trying to do the best job he can and ain't going well.

Well,

Gordy (host)

he said at one congressional hearing, don't listen to me for any medical advice.

You know, I thought that was kind of a telling statement.

He

John (host)

said it, right on the record.

It's a great way to start off.

It says here, at least four of the studies cited in the new report, Make America Healthy Again, this is his first big report and everybody's looking at this with surprised looks.

The first four studies cited in the flagship White House report on children's health of all things.

Doesn't exist the authors listed in the documents said that these are false reports casting doubt now on the paper Outlining RFK juniors agenda like he has an agenda What would have?

Would have been important reports assessing the dry the drivers of the childhood chronic diseases Turned out to be a fake report

It includes broken citation links and credits authors with papers.

They said they did not write.

Okay, we've got a... By the way, BS Barbie, Caroline Levitt said during the afternoon briefing with a straight face, get this, this is incredible.

I just love this.

Ready for this?

The mishaps were formatting issues.

Okay, now you're you're crediting reports that don't exist and authors who denied having anything to do with these reports, right?

It's a formatting issue.

How do you how do you come to that conclusion and this this is the this is the closer line that is just incredible It does not negate the substance of the report

How does it not negate the substance of the report if the reports are fake and phony and the doctors have denied having anything to do with it?

Come on, please!

Gordy (host)

In her world, it's all just okay.

It's fine.

John (host)

All

Gordy (host)

right.

John (host)

Doesn't

Gordy (host)

negate anything.

John (host)

So, Noah Kresge, a Columbia University researcher listed as an author of a paper on adolescent anxiety and depression, said the citation is not one of our studies and doesn't appear to be a study that exists at all.

Gordy (host)

It's just made

John (host)

it up.

Screaming endorsement right there.

The link.

to that story was broken to the peer-reviewed medical journal JAMA, who by the way said it was not published in JAMA pediatrics or in JAMA network journals.

Gordy (host)

JAMA, that's Journal of American

John (host)

Medical

Gordy (host)

Association,

John (host)

I think, yeah.

A Columbia University professor named in the citation said the reference is totally fabricated.

Well, okay, don't mince words with us on that one.

Harold Farber, a pediatrics professor at Baylor College of Medicine said the paper attributed to him does not exist.

And a fourth paper on ADHD, which is very important to me, the medication, I love the medication, was also not published in the Journal of Pediatrics in 2008 as claimed.

Gordy (host)

How do these things get in there?

I proofread anything

John (host)

there.

This is a good question.

Okay.

Thank you.

Levitt declined to answer how the report was produced and whether, get this, artificial intelligence tools may have been used to craft the report.

Oh, okay.

That has.

I'm, I'm thinking that's what happened.

Gordy (host)

Yes.

John (host)

Throw it into AI, come out with a quick report.

That sounds like the workload that RFK Jr.

would appreciate.

Yeah,

Gordy (host)

just give it to AI.

And

John (host)

Kennedy's agency is justifying its policy priorities with studies and sources that do not exist.

Gordy (host)

So that's the way they're going to get through this four years.

Just give it over to AI.

If there's any mistake, it was AI's fault.

Isn't

John (host)

that

Gordy (host)

amazing?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

John (host)

Well,

Gordy (host)

okay.

John (host)

Yeah, I know these things mind-boggling.

They just they just

Gordy (host)

happen to just a coincidence.

It's crazy.

All right.

Coming up in a little while here, in fact, in just a few minutes, we'll be checking in with Brittany Merleau on weather for the weekend.

And of course, Rocker is here.

He'll get ready for the Maxink preview and a couple of surprises before the end of the show.

John (host)

Yeah, everybody's complained about the Medicaid cuts that are in the big bad bill that was passed, right?

Right.

Oh, Mike Johnson said his party is going to.

it's deeply unpopular Medicaid cuts via the moral component of protecting manhood.

What?

Yes.

It's like wearing a protective cup.

Wait

Gordy (host)

a minute.

John (host)

Start over.

Gordy (host)

What is this about?

John (host)

Mike Johnson wants to protect manhood.

with a moral component, by cutting away the benefits of Medicaid to many of these men that can go out there and work but are actually freeloading.

I thought you were gonna say he's gonna pull a Derek Van Orden and fail to change a car tire, but this is way worse than that.

This is worse than that, you're absolutely right.

Why don't we get up, cut two here, no, 206, cut 206.

We have time for that.

Let's listen to Johnson here.

Okay.

Gordy (host)

You're talking about 4.8 million able-bodied workers, young men, for example, who are on Medicaid and not working.

They are choosing not to work when they can.

That is called fraud.

They are cheating the system.

When you root out those kinds of abuses, you save the resources that are so desperately needed by the people who deserve it and need it most.

That's what we're doing.

John (host)

So bottom-lining it then.

Yes.

If you're getting health care, getting health care is not a crime.

It's fraud.

And you're cheating the country if

You get health care health care a basic human need Yes, you know, I've got a little speech from AOC coming up in regards to this.

I know we don't have a we got to take a break Okay, but you know, we'll come back with that and and get back to more of what

Mike Johnson is talking about here.

Gordy (host)

Okay.

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Get a check of the weekend weather next on John and Gordy in the

morning.

Tell us what's to do.

Rockin' at a rolling station and a splashin' over the horizon.

What can it be?

Looks like it's going to be a free country.

John Peterson (host)

John and Courtney in the morning.

Nice sunny day today.

We're a real huge state street and the leaf blowers have been out already.

The street sweepers also have taken care of the streets.

So we're thinking about coming downtown.

No problem.

Gordy (host)

They've gotten it ready for you.

Yes.

It's beautiful.

We've got sunshine today and right now our chief meteorologist, Brittany Merlot joins us.

Good morning.

Brittany, how

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

are you?

Good

Gordy (host)

morning.

How's the

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

weather?

How are you guys doing?

You know, it's a little hazy.

Gross out here.

We've got a lot of thick wildfire smoke right here in Los.

How about you?

Yeah, no,

John Peterson (host)

we haven't seen anything like that yet, but I guess it's moving down here.

Yeah.

Another summer of this.

Come on.

I

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

know, I know.

I mean, so.

Manitoba and Saskatchewan they've had their largest evacuations that in living memory that they can think of which is crazy to me and You know, there's so many fires going on up there now that wind has shifted Northwest so that means it's pulling it directly here towards us So we're gonna be dealing with this today.

It's supposed to be the worst this morning

So if you guys don't already have it, that's kind of good news.

Mark (caller)

Hopefully

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

it doesn't get too bad by you.

But for a lot of the state, it isn't an orange category, which is unhealthy for sensitive groups.

They say to wear the mask and stuff if you're going to be outside.

But I've got an air purifier running in my house.

Got the windows closed because I don't want any of that.

I don't react good to it.

Gordy (host)

No.

So far, it's just sunshine here, but it could, so it could get a little hazy at times.

So I don't remember, I remember this happened last year or maybe the year before, but you know, it doesn't seem like it, it seems like a relatively new phenomenon in the last couple of years, right?

That we're getting these fires in Canada every summer now?

Is that the

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

trend?

I was just talking about this with my family because I used to live up in Minnesota and there's three pretty big wildfires just north of Duluth

Mark (caller)

up there.

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

And my family was like, you know, you lived up there for 10 years.

Did that ever happen?

I was like, no, not really.

This

Mark (caller)

is

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

all a new thing.

And unfortunately, it's with the warming temperatures, the dry conditions, you know, you got lightning strike in those woods.

or someone tosses a cigarette butt or a spark, and this is what can happen.

I mean, one of those up in Canada was human-caused.

So we've got to be careful in just these dry conditions in spring.

John Peterson (host)

About two years ago, I was up in Minneapolis doing the census, and it was interesting because I couldn't see downtown.

Oh

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

my

John Peterson (host)

goodness.

Yeah, you could not see downtown.

It was that smoky down there because of the wildfires in Canada.

So we're back at it again.

Gordy (host)

So anyway, well, besides the smoke, what are we expecting this weekend?

Yeah.

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

Well.

Lots of sunshine, lots of warmth.

Good stuff, right?

Today we're going to hit the upper 70s.

There is a small chance of some scattered showers later this afternoon and then maybe a rumble of thunder after five o'clock.

We've got this cold front that's dropping in from the north.

So these storms and rain is actually going to be moving north to south this afternoon and evening.

But after that, the patchy smoke should be gone by tomorrow.

We're still looking at plenty of sunshine, actually pretty comfortable tomorrow in the mid 70s.

We do the same thing for Sunday with a little bit of mugginess starting to seep in.

And then it's going to be hot and humid on Monday.

87 degrees is what we're looking at right now.

Gordy (host)

Wow.

Monday.

87.

Wow.

Amazing.

Okay.

John Peterson (host)

Sounds

Gordy (host)

bad.

John Peterson (host)

Sounds really bad.

Summer.

Sounds like

Gordy (host)

two point problems there.

John Peterson (host)

Okay.

Today is

Gordy (host)

Sam's last day.

John Peterson (host)

Do you want to say goodbye or sit down?

Or just say see you later.

Hit the bricks.

Good riddance.

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

Nice to see you.

No, it was been a pleasure working with you, Sam.

Your energy is amazing.

I can't wait to see what you do with your future and

Mark (caller)

your

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

butt better come back on here and talk to us because this is weird.

isn't part of the family.

It is.

John Peterson (host)

Absolutely.

Hey, did you see the t-shirts here that we

Gordy (host)

have on?

Yeah.

We got our new John and Gordy t-shirts

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

that just came in.

Oh, my God.

I want that swag.

That's

Gordy (host)

cool.

John Peterson (host)

Well, I know what you

Gordy (host)

do.

Yeah.

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

We'll send one up your way.

We've got to get a little Sam on there, too, on the back.

That's

Gordy (host)

it.

Yeah, it's a great idea.

All right, Brittany, thank you so

Mark (caller)

much.

Gordy (host)

You have a great weekend.

Brittany Merlot (chief meteorologist)

Thank you, guys.

You, too.

Chief meet around.

Hi, Jim.

Gordy (host)

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We've got Mark on the line.

Let's go to Mark.

Mark (caller)

Morning, Mark.

It seems as whole inventing things seems to be something, you know, kind of par for the course of the Trump administration because didn't Peter Navarro invent Ron Varro to invent the theory behind all Trump's trade policies and tar policies.

Yeah.

I mean, and Caroline Lovett should actually, you know, format it means just how something's arranged, not actually the material within it.

I mean, to defend this false information, get put out there.

I mean, I wonder if the people who, the names they've cited have, um, in the support or send, they, they produce this stuff, actually have a cause of action against, uh, the administration for, you know, during false witness.

I mean, it is just, uh,

Beyond me that we that they're gonna get away with this crap.

John Peterson (host)

Well, yeah, I mean it can't it can't affect their careers You're right.

I mean tied to this thing in these false reports.

So yeah, I would assume that they have some kind of legal action.

Mark (caller)

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, all right There is to the wall.

John Peterson (host)

All right.

Thanks a lot

Mark (caller)

mark

John Peterson (host)

appreciate it

Let's get to the rest of the story here.

Uh, Johnson, Mike Johnson said this, no one in the country believes that this is right.

There's a moral component to providing Medicaid to these young people.

And when you make young man work.

It's good for them.

It's good for their dignity.

It's good for their self-worth.

And it's good for the community they live in.

My goodness, thank you, Mike.

Mike Johnson wants to make an individual's access to health care contingent on their dignity and their self-worth.

His framing around young men arguably meets the literal definition of sexism.

Okay.

All right.

You heard it here.

You heard it here.

All right.

I wanted to play AOC, but we don't have time for that right now.

But not at this moment, but maybe

Gordy (host)

next week.

We'll get to that.

Coming up after the break, we'll welcome Rocker

John Peterson (host)

in the studio

Mark (caller)

with

Gordy (host)

a maxing preview of this radio rock stack of records.

Stay with us.

More of John and Gordy right around the corner.

We

John Peterson (host)

were saying, yeah.

Let the sun shine.

Is the John and

Gordy (host)

Courtney show.

Gordy

735.

It's quite the legendary comment now isn't it?

It is.

John

More cowbell.

Isn't it something?

More cowbell.

We've got sunshine out there, some haze in the sun along with some smoke from Canada.

You know, I've had some smoke from Canada.

It wasn't too bad.

Get it at your local head shop.

Okay.

It's going to be beautiful today.

Highs in the upper 70s and...

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Well, no, not to me.

Gordy

Oh, wait, let's go to Rocker.

John

Rocker is in the studio.

Rocker

Rocker, stop by just

Gordy

for the heck of it.

Rocker

And I'm just sitting here thinking, is the key word Motley crew?

But no, Ron kind of crew.

Oh, sure.

Ron kind

John

of smelling.

Yeah.

Brew crew.

Rocker

Well, hey guys.

What's happening?

It's coming tomorrow night, Saturday night and Sunday night, 6 p.m.

to midnight.

And we've got a great show coming up this weekend.

Total Life Fitness owner Luke Briggs, he's a local guy.

He was an impersonal trainer for eight years at a boutique gym, but he started this great new business, Total Life Fitness.

And guess what?

I joined it and I'm going to be blogging about it and everybody's going to be able to follow my sort of fitness journey.

Cool.

Because I got to make work.

out, you know, like a life's part of your deal, you know, right.

So you do.

I got myself a coach.

So where

Gordy

are they located?

You've got a coach.

Rocker

They're located in the clouds.

Oh, it's an app.

So you use this app.

Oh,

to track your nutrition, to track your workouts.

And then they, and then you have a personal coach that is watching all this and kind of keeping you kind of on the up and up and accountable for what you're doing and looking at your goals.

And it's great because, you know, I was at the workout place and, you know, that's going to end at my cardio rehab.

And they're always like, you know, oh, you did it, you know, 30 minutes on the elliptical.

Oh, right.

You know, and I'm like going to go to a private gym and tell somebody next to me that same thing.

And they're going to look at me like.

So what?

Yeah.

So this guy is going to be, you know, the total life fitness.

He'll be like, all right, you know, they'll be doing it.

So it's review for everybody.

John

When did you have your heart grabber?

Rocker

That was the day after Christmas.

Okay.

December 26th.

John

Yep.

So now you're doing the rehab.

Rocker

I'm doing cardio rehab.

Yep.

Back to drumming.

You look great.

Got a gig coming up in September.

What are we telling you about later on?

So yeah, lots of fun.

So total life fitness, loose Luke breaks.

He'll be in here to talk about.

It's a great.

thing.

Austin Galante, he's written the soundtrack for Sing Green Teeth.

It's a new movie.

It's a second feature film because he wrote it, produced it, scored it, directed it, Sanguine Teeth on Driftless Road, new movie that's going to be premiering.

Gordy

We're going to be talking to him.

We have him stopping into the studio.

We're going to be talking to

Rocker

him.

Oh, really?

Yes.

Oh, nice.

Yeah.

That's right.

Gordy

Yeah.

Actually, you see her on Monday.

Rocker

Oh, he's making the rounds.

Well, his new movie premieres Saturday, June 7th at Marcus Place Palace Cinema in Sun Prairie.

John

OK.

Rocker

We'll be talking to him tomorrow night and live in the layer.

It's the lower fifth.

We'll talk about them in one second.

And then we'll have Marta Hansen, the piano gal.

She's going to be talking about the release of a new video for her song, Bang Bang.

She's partnered with local nonprofit Children's Film Academy of Madison.

And Bang Bang is all about school shootings, violence in schools.

And so there's going to be a couple of shows coming up.

June 6th at Brick Cider and Saturday, June 7th at the Sun Prairies Farmers Market.

And you can find out all about her cause that she's pushing.

Lower fifth, they are live in the lair.

Um, May 31st on Max inc radio.

And you know what?

Tomorrow night, they're going to be playing at Atwood Fest.

We are breaking at Woodfest schedule today.

So here's one of the first teasers live in the layer tomorrow night, lower fifth, uh, at Woodfest Sunday, July 27th on the sugar maple stage.

This is lower fifth and their song hope.

Here we go.

Sam

Take away.

John

And

Gordy

you said lower fifth, right?

The lower fifth.

No, is that part of the soundtrack of the movie or is

Rocker

it?

No, no, we've moved on from the movie.

Oh, we have.

Gordy

OK.

We left him in the dust already.

And

Rocker

we're on the lower fifth.

And we're

Gordy

about to escape that.

I got to say, though,

Rocker

that it's a good song.

It's a really good song.

Yeah, lower fifth.

Luke Jorgensen, their leader, he passed away suddenly back before the pandemic, actually.

And the band went on.

And, you know, they're still.

They're still cranking it out.

They got a couple of new members.

And that's their

Gordy

own song right there.

Rocker

That is.

They sound great.

They are very good.

And they'll be at Atwood Fest.

So check out theatwoodfest.com, atwoodfest.com for the full schedule.

Another guy playing at Atwood Fest on Sunday, July 27th at 6 p.m.

headlining the Luther Allison stage.

It's a Dem Test Faye Band, but they are playing tonight.

You can see him.

I'm actually going to the show.

It's at the Burroke.

Door's open at 7.

Night of Soul Grooving Connection.

The lights will be.

the band will be tight and the energy, pure fire and intimacy.

He is

John

great.

Rocker

So let's check out a little bit of a dem test for a band.

The Being Wave, this is from their 2022

Guest Singer

EP.

But then you stand in line You gotta see what you wanna be You gotta see There'll be a way There'll be a way, yeah So let's start And get to the heart of the answers And I can be where it is Just a small part of the process For what it is

Don't make promises.

Don't make promises.

Don't make promises.

The

Rocker

Bean Way.

Yeah, the Bean Way.

That is a Dem Test Faye.

And they'll be headlining the Atwood Fest stage, July 27th.

The Luther Allison stage, July 27th.

And they'll be at Burrow tonight.

So check him out.

He's really good.

Let's keep going on this Atwood Fest theme.

Yeah, Vio 5, Disco on the Lake, East Side Club, Thursday, June 5th.

Of course, they'll be playing Atwood Fest, headlining the Clyde Stubblefield stage on July 26th.

And Fat Function will be opening up for them.

So Fat Function into Vio 5.

I can't imagine a better dancing night.

Let's listen to some dance from Dance Originality, their original album.

This is a song called

Baku, this is

SPEAKER_07

VO5!

SPEAKER_??

you

Rocker

That has a fun Latin feel to it.

It sure does.

You know, they do a lot of their own songs, but of course they'll do all the disco hits.

Make sure to go to atwoodfest.com.

Check out the full schedule because I'm going to give you a couple of highlights right now.

Not everybody wants to know what's happening on the main stage.

Yeah, Saturday night of Atwood Fest, July 26.

It's coming.

The Clyde Stubblefield stage.

And we're going to kick it off with rare elements.

So Clyde Stubblefield music.

Tons of it funk.

This is gonna be a funky day big horn bands next comes the big payback That's a huge horn band and Josh Hoyer and soul colossal making a return appearance They haven't been here since like 2019 2018 from Nebraska and he wanted was a finalist in American Idol Amazing singer amazing keyboard player fat function then VO 5

That is going to be the Clyde Stubblefield stage on Atwood Fest.

Some other Atwood Fest highlights include Mr. Blotto from Chicago.

He's going to be doing the Saturday, July 26th on the Luther Allison stage.

Julian Primo, we're bringing back from New Orleans.

Mama Digdown's brass band.

So we have a whole New Orleans feel going on on that stage that day.

We also have Dogtown Hollow, one of John's favorites.

And American Scarecrow is a great Americana band from many.

Minneapolis, Kelsey Miles, good friend of yours.

She's coming back.

John

Kelsey

Rocker

Miles.

And Parker Barrow from Birmingham, Alabama.

We're bringing them back and we're putting them on the big stage.

They were just an amazing band last year.

And you guys might like this one, the Brothers Almanac.

They're an Alman Brothers tribute band from Minneapolis.

And they're really good.

Two drummers, the whole, the whole ball of wax.

It's going to be really great.

And yeah, so go to www.atwoodfest.com to check the whole schedule.

Gordy

Okay.

Rocker

No, we were down there

Gordy

for the, I was down there for the very first time last year.

Yes.

I have to say it's amazing how they put the stages in, in that small

Rocker

area.

Gordy

They've got all of these different stages, huge

Rocker

stages and a

Gordy

lot of people can get in there and it's just a fantastic event and great food.

I mean, in the market, you can go down Atwood Avenue and just

Rocker

vendor alley.

It is just wonderful.

It's a great event.

And you can see an,

We have a list of the vendors and a list of the food vendors so you can kind of make your plans early.

Great

John

stuff.

Just about a minute or so to go here.

Rocker, you want to talk about what's happening tonight on the terrace?

Rocker

There is some good stuff.

Some weekend highlights coming up.

May 30th from the Memorial Union Terrace.

That's tonight.

Man Town Manish Boys.

We'll see you on the lake.

May 31st, Westmoreland Park, which is out.

by Tokyo Boulevard.

It's a wheelhouse.

That's tomorrow.

Westmoreland Park and then the Edgewater.

They're having their brewgrass Fridays coming up.

And tonight, yes, tonight, them Cooley boys, folk Americana outfit from Eau Claire, Wisconsin area music industry is band of the year in 2021.

Them Cooley boys.

Let's hear it.

Sign of the times.

All

John

right.

SPEAKER_??

Okay.

John

Rocker great to have you with us.

Hey stick around in the studio.

All right, okay.

Yeah maxing preview and again maxing tomorrow night.

That's right.

Yeah 6 p.m.

The midnight.

Yep, and we will say farewell to Sam coming up next on John and Gordy in the

Sam

morning

John (host)

WMDX 92.7.

It's John and Gordy in the morning and every once in a while we mention our producer Sam, you know, he throws his two cents in from time to time, you know, he's just kind of hanging out.

He's not really participating in

Sam Davidson (producer)

the

John (host)

program much usually.

They don't

Sam Davidson (producer)

pay me

John (host)

enough for that.

Very very last day that Sam is producing the show here, and we we don't know what's gonna happen, you know, I think You know what it's gonna be.

It's gonna be a sad day.

It's gonna be an empty empty spot

Because you know, you have added so much to this program and it was just a coincidence.

We're all thrown together and you looked at us like I'm going to take care of these two senior citizens.

Are you kidding

Sam Davidson (producer)

me?

Well, I remember the first time I met you.

I really didn't know what to make of you.

Like I asked you if you wanted the show to be political and I had no idea what that meant.

I don't know.

Whatever you meant a lot of things.

Yeah, exactly.

Whatever you said was filled with euphemisms and I really could not tell what you were trying to tell me.

John (host)

Yeah, yeah.

Sam Davidson (producer)

Yeah, Sam, it's been a great

John (host)

ride.

It really has.

Gordy (host)

You got a few texts, you know?

Yeah, we

John (host)

did.

We got a couple here.

Gordy (host)

Did you already tell them about Mark?

No.

But I prayed a sack saying, from this radio show, Sam is leaving.

We will miss your skills on the radio dialer and for taking your talents to the high school room and enlightening our youth for a while, which is what he's doing next.

Unknown Colleague

Yeah, and another one that says, good luck, Sam.

Really going to miss you.

How well you fit into the morning crew, the voice of reason that kept the elders in line.

I love being called an elder.

You

Gordy (host)

are.

Unknown Colleague

You're both

Sam Davidson (producer)

old

Unknown Colleague

enough to be my grandparents.

Sam Davidson (producer)

Yeah,

Unknown Colleague

thanks.

Goodbye.

If you know what I mean, it's wishing you all the best moving forward as a teacher.

It

John (host)

was always like having one of my kids in here, because my sons are, you know, 26 and 23.

So, you know.

Gordy (host)

Right in there.

Sam, you're 23, right?

Unknown Colleague

I'm 24.

Gordy (host)

24 already, okay.

Unknown Colleague

Now, I was at home last night thinking, what music could I select to say goodbye to Sam?

And what comes to mind?

I thought

Gordy (host)

about

Unknown Colleague

your career, your side career as a movie projectionist.

Gordy (host)

You're

Unknown Colleague

really into the movies here.

So I put together this little montage.

So this is a goodbye to Sam.

Go ahead.

John (host)

Hello, Sam.

Played once, Sam.

For all time's sake, you played,

Unknown Colleague

Sam.

He hasn't played it in a long time.

SPEAKER_??

You must remember this.

Unknown Colleague

A kiss of just memories.

A size just a size.

Actually, let's hear something else here, hang on.

The fundamental things

John (host)

apply

Unknown Colleague

as time goes by.

SPEAKER_??

Here we go.

Unknown Colleague

Take this job and shove it.

I ain't working.

There

Gordy (host)

you

Unknown Colleague

go.

Gordy (host)

This

Unknown Colleague

is a classic.

Radio guys used to play this all the time on their last day on the air.

When they knew it was their last day.

Well,

John (host)

yes.

Unknown Colleague

It was very rare that we knew, but yes.

Now, we only have a couple of minutes left, but we got a couple of things, so we better get through this.

We got about three minutes.

You

Gordy (host)

said you had all you needed, but I think this backpack really says... I'm going back to school, that's right.

Gory found this, but you've been our hero all this last year and a half.

So we put a few things in here.

I know you don't need a whole lot, but... Yeah, there's some goodbye

Unknown Colleague

presents.

Gordy (host)

You're going back to school.

You're going to need some big old pencils, you know, the big... Oh, wow.

Ticorn

Unknown Colleague

kind of roga

Gordy (host)

number twos.

Yeah.

A little something to do while the kids are, you know, studying and doing what they need to do.

Oh, yeah, like little tabletop.

A little table top.

Unknown Colleague

pinball game.

Gordy (host)

We have teacher, you know vinyl stickers that you can put on your books.

We've got some special erasers.

We figured the doughnuts would probably do for you.

The doughnut erasers.

30 seconds.

No, no, we

Unknown Colleague

got two.

We have three

Gordy (host)

minutes.

Okay, I'm not going back.

All right.

All right.

Okay.

So I'm slowing down.

This is a pencil sharpener, of course, in the shape of fries.

We like fries.

Yes, that's very nice.

Of course, a very special pen that's only for you.

It's got a spaceship on it.

And it does that.

A red pen for correcting, of

Sam Davidson (producer)

course.

Put that to good

Gordy (host)

juice.

Now we go in the big pocket.

Unknown Colleague

Yes, there's some other things.

I just want

John (host)

to mention here, it's a Spider-Man backpack.

Unknown Colleague

Yes.

Very gorgeous.

Gordy (host)

It has a hero on it because it is, right?

Of course.

Now, you're teaching history, right?

That's right.

History.

So you need to know the history of Taylor Swift.

Unknown Colleague

Oh,

Sam Davidson (producer)

that's

Unknown Colleague

good.

Gordy (host)

You're trying to turn me just to make

Unknown Colleague

sure.

So the kids think of the

Sam Davidson (producer)

kid.

A little golden book about Taylor Swift.

What's this?

Brilliant, is there?

Yes, it's the golden

Gordy (host)

book.

Sam Davidson (producer)

Oh, my

Unknown Colleague

God.

That's

Gordy (host)

great.

And of course the history of Barbie, which is very important.

Smallest, pinkest viewfinder we could find.

We need to relate to the kids.

When all goes to hell in a handbasket, Tylenol.

We need Tylenol.

Come on in, Megan.

Oh, that's fantastic.

I

John (host)

just

Gordy (host)

got

John (host)

a card for me here.

Gordy (host)

Not one, but two.

Two.

Balls.

Yeah!

John, according to you, stress balls.

Those are going

Sam Davidson (producer)

to be getting a good

Gordy (host)

squeeze.

They'll be getting a good squeeze.

They'll get your balls back.

Should I open

Sam Davidson (producer)

this

Gordy (host)

card here?

We'll do that.

We'll do that.

Yeah, do that now.

Go ahead, do that.

That's a card.

That's from everybody at the station.

Oh, yeah, that's the big part.

Unknown Colleague

We're at one minute.

Gordy (host)

All right.

One

Unknown Colleague

minute.

Well,

Gordy (host)

and this is a gift card for dicks.

There you go.

You got the balls and you got the dicks One last item because they're wearing it

Unknown Colleague

brand new

Gordy (host)

Now available in your civic media store.

Oh,

John (host)

that's gorgeous.

Yeah, we got a minute

Unknown Colleague

here.

I like the

John (host)

t-shirts

Sam Davidson (producer)

Thank you guys.

This is oh, this is wonderful.

Well,

Unknown Colleague

you deserve all that more

And we appreciate it.

Thank you.

Good

Sam Davidson (producer)

luck to

Unknown Colleague

you.

Come back and visit us.

Gordy (host)

Seriously.

Of course.

No, you're going to make me cry.

John (host)

Come back and

Unknown Colleague

do your cough one more time.

Absolutely

John (host)

classic.

Yes.

Sam Davidson (producer)

Never doing that

John (host)

again.

Sam Davidson (producer)

All

John (host)

right.

And we give you permission to co-host on Todd Elbaugh show everyone.

So

Sam Davidson (producer)

you can

John (host)

also do that here if you'd like.

Good luck to you always, Sam.

Thank you.

You meant a whole heck of a lot to this show.

You really

Unknown Colleague

did.

Yeah.

Sam Davidson, everybody.

We'll talk you on Monday.

Have a great day.

So long.

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John Peterson

WMDX 92.7.

This is John Peterson, Gordy Young in the morning with you.

Gordy Young

Along with our new producer, Boris McNamara.

John Peterson

I'm so tired.

Gordy Young

Wait, what?

Caroline Levitt

Is his

Gordy Young

name again?

Oh, Dominic Lee.

Dominic Lee.

We're still getting used to your name.

I knew I was close.

And Sam Donaldson.

John Peterson

I can see how you got that

Gordy Young

confused.

Sam Donaldson

No.

My dad's friend from high school also had a kid named Sam, and whenever we hung out together, he would call me Sammy Jean, because that's

John Peterson

my

Sam Donaldson

middle name is Eugene, so instead of calling,

John Peterson

yeah, he'd

Sam Donaldson

differentiate his kid and me calling me Sammy Jean, you could call me that.

John Peterson

Yeah, I heard you on Todd yesterday, you were coming up with nicknames for Sam, right?

Did they mention the luggage, like Samsonite?

Samsonite, yeah.

That's

Gordy Young

a good one, yeah.

Well,

John Peterson

Sam's last day is tomorrow.

Samwise-Gangy?

Gordy Young

Yeah.

John Peterson

I like that one.

OK.

Gordy Young

Tomorrow is Sam's last day.

We're going to have a special day going on.

By the way, we're going to

Sam Donaldson

have a cookout in the studio, right?

John Peterson

We're

Sam Donaldson

going to do something.

John Peterson

You guys want to ignore this, but Todd, yesterday, Sam was doing his show with him.

And Todd said that he wants Sam to be a partner in this show.

So he's stealing Sam away from us.

Sam Donaldson

I'm moving up in the world, John.

John Peterson

Wait a

Sam Donaldson

minute.

John Peterson

I thought you were moving away completely.

Yeah.

Yeah, all of a sudden.

Yeah, I'll be your partner.

Oh, sure.

Okay.

That's Todd.

Gordy Young

Okay.

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Now, I just wanted to mention BS Barbie, Caroline Levitt said something that revealed just how big it is this White House really is.

Let's listen to cut 195 here.

This is Caroline Levitt, BS Barbie is her nickname.

Caroline Levitt

And the president is more interested in giving that taxpayer money to trade schools and programs in state schools where they are promoting American values.

But most importantly, educating the next generation based on skills that we need in our economy and our society, apprenticeships, electricians, plumbers.

We need more of those in our country and less LGBTQ graduate majors from Harvard University.

And that's what this administration's position is.

And we also are not going to tolerate the illegal criminal anti-Semitic behavior that we saw take place at Harvard and many other college campuses across the country.

John Peterson

There you go.

So now we know where they stand.

Gordy Young

guess so

John Peterson

boy oh boy I mean they're just making a pretty pretty damn obvious and there was a survey by the way saw on CNN where people had a lot of confidence like 65% confidence in going to college and getting a degree but now it's down to 35% so this mega attack in colleges it's working it's working yeah

All right, let's get to our guest today.

And of course, we always love to talk to Jim Santel about legal issues.

He is the attorney here on civic media, right?

With amicus.

And every Saturday you can always listen on Saturday 9 to 11 o'clock and Jim we got a lot of topics to talk about but we last hour talked about or this hour the fourth pillar at the beginning of the hour we talked about the fourth pillar and I mentioned that this was being something that they're starting to talk to Brendan Carr about he's the FCC chair

because he's the guy who wrote most of this.

And he can't remember exactly what he wrote, but he did write it as a person, individual, not part of government.

And so that's the excuse.

So what can you add to the- Tell us about the fourth pillar.

Yeah, Gordy wanted to know more about the fourth pillar and what it's all about.

Jim Santel

Yeah, sure.

And it may well be once again that our administration is invoking the word fourth in at least two different areas.

I suspect by virtue of the examination of the FCC chair, you're probably talking about what's sometimes called the fourth estate, which is media, right?

That's press.

Those are the people who keep us under the First Amendment.

The first thing that James Madison wrote, obviously, after our Constitution was put in place many years ago.

And is there an attack by this administration on that

that fourth estate that fourth pillar again in project 2025 but since the president has been in office absolutely we think about the lawsuits right that are being filed the threats being made against legitimate and and frankly even smaller media outlets across the board telling them basically 60 minutes is the big one that's of course on the

on the agenda today, right?

And CBS News, they want to also be acquired through Paramount and need the authorization of the administration.

And so attacking 60 minutes and saying, don't do what you're doing.

You've got departures there of the news chiefs because they're not going to put up with it.

And the concern there once again is when you lose a free press, not just 60 minutes, but across the board.

Print media, frankly.

of civic media, other entities like this, that talk the truth and talk about what's really going on there.

That is the bastion.

That's one of the standards against which this other attempt to try to disinform and try to uneducate American population.

That's what the media does.

That's one aspect of the fourth pillar.

The other one, much more simply, is this attack on agencies.

It's also kind of the fourth pillar of our government after the legislature, the courts, and the executive branch.

And there we've seen, you talked about this as well in the past.

You're attacking any agency that's out there.

Why?

Because those are the people who know what they're doing, right?

There's a scientist.

Those are the educated folks.

who understand how the world works and keep us safe and secure.

We don't trust those folks anymore.

And that's also a fourth pillar type attack, administration using fourth in a number of different ways, all of them, all of them wildly inappropriate and hugely dangerous.

John Peterson

Well, it's scary.

It's really scary that the attempt here, of course, you know, is to just do away with them and put everything under the executive branch.

Jim Santel

Yeah.

Exactly.

And that's also called, also in Project 2025.

Again, you have talked about this as well.

If you need the sort of crazy legal term for it, it's called the Unitary Executive Theory,

Caroline Levitt

the

Jim Santel

notion that the President is responsible for every single, every single executive aspect out there.

And you might think, well, gee, that sounds right.

It doesn't because we've got all these administrative agencies

Oh, for example, like the Federal Reserve, right?

And they create, again, economic policy, including interest rates, designed by the Congress to be what?

Independent.

Caroline Levitt

You

Jim Santel

don't want political decision-making coming out of that entity.

Jerome Powell basically threatened recently with his own job.

And again, that notion that, no, all of that, the unitary executive, all that should be responsible to just one person, the executive.

Donald Trump it is again very dangerous and it's contrary to what the legislature has put in place by the way If you want to do this you can once again do these things you have to get legislation in place That's the big sin among others of this administration, right?

You can't simply legislate by executive fiat You got to go through legislative mechanisms and make it the law, right?

And that's again so many instances of that You can't simply issue statements and say I've changed the world

That's what our Congress is for.

You want

Caroline Levitt

to

Jim Santel

get rid of the Education Department, you can do that, but you can only do it through legislation, Mr. President.

That's the frustration of all this procedurally.

Gordy Young

Talking to Attorney Jim Santel here,

John Peterson

yeah.

Yeah, the Unitary Executive was just a crazy idea at the time.

Now it's for real.

They've actually emphasized it.

They didn't let this thing go, and now it is generally accepted.

at least under the Trump administration.

You did mention also that the Supreme Court just made a decision that Jerome Powell can't stay in his job, he can't be fired, but other departments, even though they're non-political, even though they're independent, they can be replaced.

I don't understand the differentiation here.

Did they ever make a difference, a reason why there's a differentiation?

Jim Santel

spot on when it comes to the analysis here, because what they said was, well, the Federal Reserve, there are uniquely structured and agency that kind of is special.

Well, that's also all these other agencies as well.

The Merit Systems Protection Board, those are the people who decide on personnel issues.

The National Labor Relations Board, we all know what that does.

Those are the labor folks, right?

And again, created by the Congress to be independent.

There's no real distinction.

And again, this past week in one of those many issues that kind of flew under the radar, Supreme Court does say, well, Jerome Powell, you're okay.

Apparently that's a bridge even too far for John Roberts.

We don't want Donald Trump messing around

Caroline Levitt

with

Jim Santel

economic theory.

You're okay.

But these other folks, yes, indeed, you can remove them while the underlying litigation about whether removal is appropriate still goes on in the courts.

Stunning.

Once again, that's the Supreme Court.

embracing at least part of this on Capitol Hill too.

Not a small decision and doesn't abode well for what the Supreme Court may do in other unitary executive theory cases coming up.

John Peterson

Well, that's true.

And we're just going to wait and see now what happens with a judge's decision blocking all of the tariffs.

Most of the tariffs that Trump has put in place.

You have any information on that?

That just came down, I know.

Yeah,

Jim Santel

yesterday.

What's

John Peterson

your opinion on that, Jim?

Jim Santel

Sure.

And so this is another federal court.

It's a federal court of international trade, international issues.

And it is a federal court.

You can appeal this, of course, to the next level.

But again, a three judge panel there looks at all of this and says, you do not have the authority to do this.

And it says to a couple of countries, Mexico and Canada, and then more generally, they kind of issue two different orders here, completely much related.

but separate in terms of their sort of status.

It is, again, these are people who know what they're talking about.

They're judges who do international trade issues.

That's all they do.

And the fact that they would yesterday, the three judge panel, returns this order.

Again, another one in this great line, federal judges saying, Mr. President,

You might like to do this,

Caroline Levitt

but

Jim Santel

you can't.

You don't have the authority to do this.

And if it was taken at, again, be the serious thing that it should be viewed as, it should stop him from doing all of this so-called negotiation.

I know in the past hour, once again, you just, particularly this notion, there's nothing in place.

He's got nothing negotiated, even with Great Britain, as he just said.

We've just got these words out there

Gordy Young

about

Jim Santel

a plan.

But all of that, even the

Gordy Young

Okay as Jim frozen caveman lawyer Let's play that We'll see if we can get Jim back here in a moment.

Let's please stand by okay, what do we do here Sam?

John Peterson

I'm sure that he can probably hear us, but you know at the same time The Supreme Court is probably regretting

putting the official acts place where he is protected from anything he does in office, right?

Right, yeah, he's got immunity.

What is that immunity?

Gordy Young

Well,

John Peterson

it looks like he's back.

Jim, do we have you back?

Yeah.

Jim Santel

I'm so sorry for they probably, probably it was the administration or the secretary

John Peterson

saying, no, no,

Jim Santel

we've got to get that guy

John Peterson

quieted up.

Yeah.

It's making a good point.

Jim Santel

Sorry about that.

Yeah.

But that is right.

You again, you've got judges.

We're making these these balanced decisions and telling him no and he is simply saying I don't care.

Gordy Young

Yeah.

So they're going to appeal this thing from the this federal judge and eventually it goes up to the Supreme Court.

They make a ruling and he ignores that too.

Yeah.

Right.

I mean that's been the that's been the system so far.

OK.

Got to take a brief time out here.

We'll come back with attorney Jim Santel in just a moment.

Stay with us.

John (host)

WMDX 92.7.

It's John and Gordy in the morning and every once in a while we mention our producer Sam, you know, he throws his two cents in from time to time, you know, he's just kind of hanging out.

He's not really participating in

Gordy (host)

the

John (host)

program much usually.

They don't

Gordy (host)

pay me

John (host)

enough for that.

Very very last day that Sam is producing the show here, and we we don't know what's gonna happen, you know, I think You know what it's gonna be.

It's gonna be a sad day.

It's gonna be an empty empty spot

Because you know, you have added so much to this program and it was just a coincidence.

We're all thrown together and you looked at us like I'm going to take care of these two senior citizens.

Are you kidding

Gordy (host)

me?

Well, I remember the first time I met you.

I really didn't know what to make of you.

Like I asked you if you wanted the show to be political and I had no idea what that meant.

I don't know.

Whatever you meant a lot of things.

Yeah, exactly.

Whatever you said was filled with euphemisms and I really could not tell what you were trying to tell me.

John (host)

Yeah, yeah.

Gordy (host)

Yeah, Sam, it's been a great

John (host)

ride.

It really has.

Sam Davidson (producer)

You got a few texts, you know?

Yeah, we

John (host)

did.

We got a couple here.

Sam Davidson (producer)

Did you already tell them about Mark?

No.

But I prayed a sack saying, from this radio show, Sam is leaving.

We will miss your skills on the radio dialer and for taking your talents to the high school room and enlightening our youth for a while, which is what he's doing next.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, and another one that says, good luck, Sam.

Really going to miss you.

How well you fit into the morning crew, the voice of reason that kept the elders in line.

I love being called an elder.

You

Sam Davidson (producer)

are.

Unknown Speaker

You're both

Gordy (host)

old

Unknown Speaker

enough to be my grandparents.

Gordy (host)

Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

thanks.

Goodbye.

If you know what I mean, it's wishing you all the best moving forward as a teacher.

It

John (host)

was always like having one of my kids in here, because my sons are, you know, 26 and 23.

So, you know.

Sam Davidson (producer)

Right in there.

Sam, you're 23, right?

Unknown Speaker

I'm 24.

Sam Davidson (producer)

24 already, okay.

Unknown Speaker

Now, I was at home last night thinking, what music could I select to say goodbye to Sam?

And what comes to mind?

I thought

Sam Davidson (producer)

about

Unknown Speaker

your career, your side career as a movie projectionist.

Sam Davidson (producer)

You're

Unknown Speaker

really into the movies here.

So I put together this little montage.

So this is a goodbye to Sam.

Go ahead.

John (host)

Hello, Sam.

Played once, Sam.

For all time's sake, you played,

Unknown Speaker

Sam.

He hasn't played it in a long time.

SPEAKER_??

You must remember this.

Unknown Speaker

A kiss of just memories.

A size just a size.

Actually, let's hear something else here, hang on.

The fundamental things

John (host)

apply

Unknown Speaker

as time goes by.

SPEAKER_??

Here we go.

Unknown Speaker

Take this job and shove it.

I ain't working.

There

Sam Davidson (producer)

you

Unknown Speaker

go.

Sam Davidson (producer)

This

Unknown Speaker

is a classic.

Radio guys used to play this all the time on their last day on the air.

When they knew it was their last day.

Well,

John (host)

yes.

Unknown Speaker

It was very rare that we knew, but yes.

Now, we only have a couple of minutes left, but we got a couple of things, so we better get through this.

We got about three minutes.

You

Sam Davidson (producer)

said you had all you needed, but I think this backpack really says... I'm going back to school, that's right.

Gory found this, but you've been our hero all this last year and a half.

So we put a few things in here.

I know you don't need a whole lot, but... Yeah, there's some goodbye

Unknown Speaker

presents.

Sam Davidson (producer)

You're going back to school.

You're going to need some big old pencils, you know, the big... Oh, wow.

Ticorn

Unknown Speaker

kind of roga

Sam Davidson (producer)

number twos.

Yeah.

A little something to do while the kids are, you know, studying and doing what they need to do.

Oh, yeah, like little tabletop.

A little table top.

Unknown Speaker

pinball game.

Sam Davidson (producer)

We have teacher, you know vinyl stickers that you can put on your books.

We've got some special erasers.

We figured the doughnuts would probably do for you.

The doughnut erasers.

30 seconds.

No, no, we

Unknown Speaker

got two.

We have three

Sam Davidson (producer)

minutes.

Okay, I'm not going back.

All right.

All right.

Okay.

So I'm slowing down.

This is a pencil sharpener, of course, in the shape of fries.

We like fries.

Yes, that's very nice.

Of course, a very special pen that's only for you.

It's got a spaceship on it.

And it does that.

A red pen for correcting, of

Gordy (host)

course.

Put that to good

Sam Davidson (producer)

juice.

Now we go in the big pocket.

Unknown Speaker

Yes, there's some other things.

I just want

John (host)

to mention here, it's a Spider-Man backpack.

Unknown Speaker

Yes.

Very gorgeous.

Sam Davidson (producer)

It has a hero on it because it is, right?

Of course.

Now, you're teaching history, right?

That's right.

History.

So you need to know the history of Taylor Swift.

Unknown Speaker

Oh,

Gordy (host)

that's

Unknown Speaker

good.

Sam Davidson (producer)

You're trying to turn me just to make

Unknown Speaker

sure.

So the kids think of the

Gordy (host)

kid.

A little golden book about Taylor Swift.

What's this?

Brilliant, is there?

Yes, it's the golden

Sam Davidson (producer)

book.

Gordy (host)

Oh, my

Unknown Speaker

God.

That's

Sam Davidson (producer)

great.

And of course the history of Barbie, which is very important.

Smallest, pinkest viewfinder we could find.

We need to relate to the kids.

When all goes to hell in a handbasket, Tylenol.

We need Tylenol.

Come on in, Megan.

Oh, that's fantastic.

I

John (host)

just

Sam Davidson (producer)

got

John (host)

a card for me here.

Sam Davidson (producer)

Not one, but two.

Two.

Balls.

Yeah!

John, according to you, stress balls.

Those are going

Gordy (host)

to be getting a good

Sam Davidson (producer)

squeeze.

They'll be getting a good squeeze.

They'll get your balls back.

Should I open

Gordy (host)

this

Sam Davidson (producer)

card here?

We'll do that.

We'll do that.

Yeah, do that now.

Go ahead, do that.

That's a card.

That's from everybody at the station.

Oh, yeah, that's the big part.

Unknown Speaker

We're at one minute.

Sam Davidson (producer)

All right.

One

Unknown Speaker

minute.

Well,

Sam Davidson (producer)

and this is a gift card for dicks.

There you go.

You got the balls and you got the dicks One last item because they're wearing it

Unknown Speaker

brand new

Sam Davidson (producer)

Now available in your civic media store.

Oh,

John (host)

that's gorgeous.

Yeah, we got a minute

Unknown Speaker

here.

I like the

John (host)

t-shirts

Gordy (host)

Thank you guys.

This is oh, this is wonderful.

Well,

Unknown Speaker

you deserve all that more

And we appreciate it.

Thank you.

Good

Gordy (host)

luck to

Unknown Speaker

you.

Come back and visit us.

Sam Davidson (producer)

Seriously.

Of course.

No, you're going to make me cry.

John (host)

Come back and

Unknown Speaker

do your cough one more time.

Absolutely

John (host)

classic.

Yes.

Gordy (host)

Never doing that

John (host)

again.

Gordy (host)

All

John (host)

right.

And we give you permission to co-host on Todd Elbaugh show everyone.

So

Gordy (host)

you can

John (host)

also do that here if you'd like.

Good luck to you always, Sam.

Thank you.

You meant a whole heck of a lot to this show.

You really

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did.

Yeah.

Sam Davidson, everybody.

We'll talk you on Monday.

Have a great day.

So long.

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next.

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All right, well, let's get to Mike McCame from Substack and also the author of Miracle of Long County Q. We have a county

you sign here that Sam brought in, Sam.

Sam (Producer)

Well, yeah, this is my last time being in the studio for Mike McCabe's

John Peterson

weekly appearance,

Sam (Producer)

and I wanted to finish his book before it, so I sat and I finished the book yesterday.

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And

Sam (Producer)

your review?

It's a good book.

Gordy Young

I can definitely

Sam (Producer)

tell that it was written by Mike.

There's a lot of wisdom packed into that book.

And

Gordy Young

a few surprises, too.

A few surprises,

Sam (Producer)

completely out of left field, yes.

But you mentioned the road sign.

I grew up probably two or three miles from Marathon County Q in Ringle, Wisconsin.

And when Marathon County redid their entire addressing system, I stole one of their old road signs for

Mike McCabe (Guest)

County

Sam (Producer)

Q.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

And so I

thought it would be

Sam (Producer)

funny to bring that in.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

And for listeners who don't know where Marathon County is, it neighbors Clark County, which is where I grew up and where

Miracles Along County Q is set in

John Peterson

Clark County.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

Yeah.

So next door neighbors.

John Peterson

And you also mentioned on Substack, your reviews, your star reviews.

And you have a four and a half out of five stars in your review column.

And that's really actually exceptional.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

That's pretty good.

Yeah.

That's not bad for a rookie

John Peterson

for

Mike McCabe (Guest)

the first time I've ever tried my hand at fiction.

And there was one one-star review.

Oh,

John Peterson

really?

And

Mike McCabe (Guest)

somebody who hated it and gave it one star, which knocked the rating down.

So it was like a 4.8 or 4.9 out of five stars for a while, the average, but the one-star review knocked it down a bit.

But hey, that comes with the territory.

Yeah, you can't please everybody.

John Peterson

You can't please everybody.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

Somebody was offended.

Well,

John Peterson

you know my wife also has those reviews and Yeah, you get knocked on every once in a while by

Mike McCabe (Guest)

somebody

John Peterson

who says well you took too long to get the second book out Two or three stars and it's always unfair or I didn't get the book or I haven't read it yet, but you know

There's all these excuse for the low ratings that they give in some of these reviews.

It's crazy stuff.

Now we're talking about the highway sign here, and it's County Highway Q. And we were talking how in the old days, there weren't really references, addresses or road names, right?

In

Mike McCabe (Guest)

Wisconsin.

We're saying off the air that when I was growing up in Clark County, we lived on a gravel road.

We had a dairy farm about a mile and a half down a gravel road.

And the road had no name.

And there was no fire number for the properties.

The postal service and the fire department for that matter just needed to know where people lived.

And they needed to come wherever they were told to go.

And so, yeah, when we gave people directions, we just had to say, go out County Highway E is where our farm was off of County E.

And you'll see a creamery on

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the right and a tavern on the left.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

And it's at that intersection where you turn left on this gravel road.

You go down there a little bit over a mile and you're going to find our farm there on the left.

And now I don't know when the law was changed so that you had to have fire numbers, but all you go out in the country and you'll see these numbers posted by every property.

That's actually a fire number so that fire departments know where to

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go

Mike McCabe (Guest)

if they're responding to a fire.

And I assume the Postal Service now has that road, never had a name, there was no road sign.

It's now called Hickory Road, the road where I...

where I grew up.

I don't know when that road was labeled, but it never was while I lived there.

Gordy Young

Well, your farm's still there.

Yeah, oh yeah.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

Yeah, and I'm still in touch with the people who bought the farm from us.

It's still in the same family.

The family that bought it from us still is on the land today.

And I still exchange notes from time to time with, he was knee high to a grasshopper at the time.

We sold the farm to them.

He was just a little kid, but Matthew Dorico now is fully grown and I'm still in touch with Matt.

It's a great story.

Working farm

still.

It's sort of a working farm, but they did get out of dairying.

They no longer milk, they grow crops, but you know, this was a family from the Chicago area that wanted to get out of the city and come to the country.

John Peterson

And they bought our

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farm and they had never milked cows in their lives.

They weren't farmers, but they learned it and they became exceptional dairy farmers.

He was a trucker, Frank Dorico was a trucker.

They now run a trucking business.

off of the farm.

They have their, you know, they have their whole system of communicating with all their trucks is actually run out of an old shed on our

John Peterson

farm.

Well, you know, we had a late night movie show on Fox 47 many years ago, and it was brought to everybody by Rural Route 1 Popcorn.

That's right.

And that's how they identified properties back then as Rural Route 1 too.

I lived at

Mike McCabe (Guest)

Rural Route 1 Curtis, Wisconsin.

John Peterson

There you go.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

That was my, our family's address, and so there was no road number, nothing.

Gordy Young

Rural Route 1

Mike McCabe (Guest)

Curtis.

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Talk with Mike McCabe, substack author and blogger.

What's your latest column about Mike?

Mike McCabe (Guest)

Well, it's really about it's really about how We're living in at a time of great dishonesty and cruelty and there's an awful lot of people who who are being victimized Sometimes grabbed off the street and detained with without due process and and for no just reason and and

You know, an awful lot of people who are wearing crosses around their necks are looking the other way.

And so I, you know, I, you know, I just tell that old story that everybody knows.

And some people believe in this historical figure.

Some of them believe that this is actually a savior and attach religious meaning to this individual.

And, you know, and some people just don't buy the story at all.

But you know the story, the night that before Jesus was nailed to a cross, he met with his disciples and washed the feet of those closest to him, his closest confidants, knowing that he was about to be betrayed.

He was about to be abandoned and forsaken.

And the next day he would be nailed to a cross.

And the people who wear that cross around their neck,

are not washing feet.

They are washing their hands.

Of all of that is going on around us.

That's what the column is about.

Caroline Levitt.

It's literally, you know, the title of the article,

John Peterson

the

Mike McCabe (Guest)

sub-stack, is feet or hands.

And we got that choice to make.

And yeah, you know, and all these people around this current regime, including the press secretary that you just named.

You look at them, they've always got a cross around

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their

Mike McCabe (Guest)

neck.

And yet the teaching of the individual for whom that symbol is worn has gone right out the window.

So I wrote about

John Peterson

that.

play a little cut here.

This is cut 183.

Can we just just a little bit of it?

OK, because you get the point, but this is James Tolerico.

He's a representative in Texas, and he's a pastor, also a representative.

So let's listen just a little part of what he's getting at here in this clip.

James Tolerico (Clip)

What is the fourth commitment?

Mike McCabe (Guest)

The Sabbath part of keeping

James Tolerico (Clip)

the Sabbath holy is not working on the Sabbath.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

That is, that is, yeah.

James Tolerico (Clip)

What day is the Jewish Sabbath?

Mike McCabe (Guest)

It is on Saturday.

And what

James Tolerico (Clip)

day is it today?

Mike McCabe (Guest)

It is Saturday.

Here we are.

The

James Tolerico (Clip)

Christian Sabbath is what day?

Mike McCabe (Guest)

Sunday in honor of the day that Jesus rose from the dead.

James Tolerico (Clip)

And we're scheduled to give this bill a final vote on what day of the week?

Mike McCabe (Guest)

It's ironic, isn't it?

James Tolerico (Clip)

Would you be willing to postpone your bill so that we're not breaking the 10 commandments by working on the Jewish or Christian Sabbath?

Mike McCabe (Guest)

I love that you said that because you're

James Tolerico (Clip)

saying that you'd rather tell people to follow the 10 commandments than follow it yourself

Mike McCabe (Guest)

I would have rather have had this bill passed the other day when it was time We as a

James Tolerico (Clip)

legislature are about to force every teacher in the state to post the 10 commandments in their classrooms

Do

Mike McCabe (Guest)

members of

James Tolerico (Clip)

the Texas Legislature follow the Ten Commandments?

Mike McCabe (Guest)

So again, this bill is about honoring our historical, educational, and judicial heritage with the display of the Ten Commandments.

James Tolerico (Clip)

The Ninth Commandment is, Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Are you aware of any legislators who have lied about anything?

John Peterson

All right, now we kind

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of

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get

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the

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idea.

But very good point, right?

They're really pushing the 10 commandments to get none of them are really following in the footsteps of Jesus and the tablets themselves.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

And if she'd been honest, boy, that clip would have been really long if she'd listed

John Peterson

all

Mike McCabe (Guest)

the lawmakers who had been dishonest.

John Peterson

Oh, that is so true.

My goodness.

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Yeah.

John Peterson

But anyway, yeah, you were talking about that and this is what's happening kind of in this country here that they're they're they're doing things just the opposite of what You know what their religion is telling them.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

Yeah, and you know, I partly wrote the article To call out that hypocrisy.

So that's part of the purpose.

But I also wrote the article for all of us whether we're lawmakers or not elected to any

any public station, regardless of our place in this society, we can choose, sort of metaphorically,

we

can choose to wash feet or wash our hands.

James Tolerico (Clip)

We

Mike McCabe (Guest)

can turn away from the brutality and the barbarity that is around us, or we can choose to be kind when other people are being rude.

We can choose to...

to show common decency when other people are engaged in cruelty.

John Peterson

Well, we're seeing that not happen.

Mike McCabe (Guest)

And that's part of why I wrote this is because I think a lot of times decent-minded people turn, they sort of take the cues of those who are...

at the top engaging in cruelty and barbarity.

And that's the way they start treating people.

And that's when we really are in trouble, when we start to mirror that behavior.

And that's something that we all can do in a moment like this, where it is a very dishonest age, it's a very troubling age in so many ways, and it's a very cruel age.

We can choose to go in the opposite direction.

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We're here with Mike McCabe.

Mike, stay with us.

We'll be back after a brief time out here on John and Gordy in the morning.

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You know there's a light that glows by the front door Don't forget the keys under the mat

When childhood stars shine, always stay humble and kind.

Go to church because your mom says to, there's a grandpa every chance that you can.

Won't be wasted time, always stay humble and kind.

Mike McCabe (guest)

And there you go.

It's Tim McGraw.

Great song.

The song Mike McCabe posted on Substack in this particular story that we're talking about today, and that is Feet or Hands.

And I never heard the song before, but the lyrics are actually really nice.

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And they get more powerful as the song goes

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on.

And

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I posted the YouTube video, so there's a music

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video

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that goes with it.

And that's worth watching.

Mike McCabe (guest)

All right.

And you all posted a cartoon, which I thought was fantastic.

You showed a picture to guys on a very fancy yacht.

Yeah.

And the dialogue goes, and can you believe it?

It only cost 180 people their Medicaid benefits.

Maybe the way they describe it now.

And what would the jet airplane cost?

Oh, man.

And we were talking about, you know, addresses on the rural communities and Lynn from Golden Valley, Texas, saying, I grew up out.

outside of Eau Claire.

And in the 60s, we lived on rural route three box 94.

So the mail system had their own codes.

The road lacked the name until about the 1970s.

So and that must

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have been a somewhat more populated area because they needed PO Box.

Mike McCabe (guest)

That's right.

And there was

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a rural three.

Yeah.

Mike McCabe (guest)

Yes.

But you know, the whole thing here is I always thought it was a tradition here in Wisconsin where we described where we lived, where to go by landmarks, right?

I mean, that's always the way it was.

It's, you know, two blocks from the McDonald's.

You turn right at the mobile station and right across the street from the church.

That's where I live.

That's right.

That's right.

That's the way it is.

So, yeah, maybe that's how all of that became a tradition here in the state.

I don't

Gordy (co-host)

know.

Possibly so, yeah.

So, Mike, what do you got coming up in the next little while here?

You're kind of on a hiatus.

We were talking about you were making all these appearances.

For

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book events, I think all the people who do book events must figure that they need to respect people's desire to be outdoors in the summer because there is a little bit of a hiatus.

I'm going to be up in...

Owen where I went to high school in July for an event.

But other than that, it's not going to get busy again until September or October.

Gordy (co-host)

And Miracles Along County Q is your book.

You've mentioned before, you don't think this might be the only novel that you write,

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right?

Yeah, I don't have another story rattling around in my head, you know, ready to start writing down.

I would never rule it out because it was a wonderful undertaking.

I really enjoyed.

doing it, but it might be the only one I ever write.

I don't know whether another story is going to occur to me.

Mike McCabe (guest)

Yeah, I know.

You had a great idea for a book.

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You know, one of the things I've noticed is a lot of authors, they'll write that first book and it comes from a place of great authenticity and

John (co-host)

then they start and then they

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start, yeah, they've got an inspiration and then they start writing formulaically and they kind of write for the market and they just start churning stuff out.

Yeah.

But

they're never as good as that one that came from that place of real inspiration.

And I don't really want to just churn books out for the sake of publishing books.

I would want it to be a story that inspires me.

Mike McCabe (guest)

Yeah.

Now, I want to hear... We were talking about...

wearing the cross and living the Bible, if that's truly what you think is important in your life.

But we're seeing a lot of people, at least Republicans and Magas at this point, kind of ignore our responsibilities to their fellow man by taking away all the healthcare.

And I've never seen anything quite like this.

I don't think anybody else has, and we keep saying that.

But just to...

Pass out tax cuts to spend money on the billionaires and millionaires and corporations to spend money on them and then taking away all of the health care that they will be taking away the safety nets food They're doing this at the expense of Every everybody in this country just to give tax cuts to people who already have the money and don't need it and should actually be paying forward at this point, right?

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You know, and it's funny.

I wrote this article

you know, and it starts out with the story of Jesus.

I'm not a church-going man.

But to me, whether you see him as Jesus Christ or just Jesus of Nazareth, a historical figure, or even if you don't accept that such a man ever walked the face of the earth, the story is powerful.

And there's a tremendous amount of truth in the story.

And what it says to us all these years later, two millennia later, what it says to us is just...

is just be accepting and kind and decent toward people.

And don't look down at people and see them as beneath you.

Get down to their level and show them some human compassion and some decency.

And that is what is so missing in our...

in our society and in our politics today and our culture.

Mike McCabe (guest)

I want to get to, you were celebrating the 30th anniversary of the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign.

Everybody, everybody, all the leaders of that group got together.

Yeah, that's the first and

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only time that all four

Mike McCabe (guest)

people who have been

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director of the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign were in the same

Mike McCabe (guest)

room

Unidentified Contributor

at the same time, which

John (co-host)

was pretty cool.

Unidentified Contributor

I had about a 20-year association of that 30 years.

I was involved for about 20 and was director for 15.

and passed the baton to new leadership and keeps going strong.

And Governor Evers wrote a proclamation, which was wonderful that he did that for the people who are there now.

Gordy (co-host)

You

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know, I'm in the past.

Gordy (co-host)

Mike McKay, we got to leave it there.

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