Amid playful banter and minor grievances about award ceremonies, John and Gordy dive into the weighty topic of Trump's plans to replace taxes with tariffs, arguing it disproportionately burdens the less affluent. They humorously suggest Trump's endgame is to turn Americans into refugees due to financial strain. The duo also highlights Wisconsin's recent award-winning beef burger, sparking hunger pangs and culinary curiosity with Pam Jahnke. Wrapping up the hour, John shares nostalgic tales of photographing rock legends including Cheap Trick, Elvis Costello, and Stevie Nicks.

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