In hour two we get to a holdover story from 6:00: a shouting match between Jake Tapper and Stephen Miller. We preview the RFK hearing happening today with words from his cousin, Caroline Kennedy, daughter of JFK, describing in unsettling detail his utter lack of empathy. After checking in with Brittney Merlot for a look at the weather ahead, the guys chat about happenings at the SCOWI, as justices are asked to recuse themselves from the case involving Act 10. Later, Mike McCabe joins us as he does every Wednesday, this time to chat about focusing not on how the government is blowing up, and instead to imagine a better, fundamentally different future. The guys focus on issues like universal healthcare and reforming the tax code, and then get into where it all went wrong: a shift away from the country's original motto: E Pluribis Unum - Out of Many, One.

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