The Conversation continues as John and Gordy talk Zuckerbucks, AKA big money from tech companies in elections. They also talk efforts from the right to sneak constitutional amendment referendums on the ballot to make it easier for them to change the law without being elected. We hear about Pornhub, and the rise in VPN users to access the site, particularly in Texas and the deep south where adult film sites are being banned or age-restricted. Later, the guys welcome Neil Jurgensen to the show, Director of WUD Music, to talk about bands, local music on campus, and recapping the SXSW festival. Closing out, we hear the news about Robin Vos's recall effort, in which over two dozen signatures were forged.

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