After scarfing down some Reese's peanut butter cups, the guys dive into how un-meritocratic the new administration will be with a clip from Tim Miller. We talk Tesla, and California excluding them from their proposed EV tax credit (to replace the federal one if Trump repeals it). We check in with Brittney Merlot for our last look at the weather before Thanksgiving, and afterward, continue the conversation about Tesla, Elon Musk, and the fall from grace of X. Later, Mike McCabe joins us as he does every Wednesday, this time to talk about the cheapening of masculinity, and how demonstrations of strength have changed so significantly since the greatest generation. John, Gordy, and Mike, all of whose dads fought in WWII, agree that men need to "man up," and better themselves, showing strength by helping others.

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