The Conversation continues as John and Gordy talk more on Eric Hovde with a caller before getting into the big story of the rights of Alabama embryos. They discuss changing TV watching habits, as members of Gen Z want the medium to morph into a more interactive phone-like product. Later, they welcome Jim Healy to the show, Programmer of the UW Cinematheque, on all things movies.

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