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KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast – May 3, 2025
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Reassemble the night for a McLaughlin group homage.
We have Bitcoin, Bergman.
We have Power, Bower.
We have Kelsey's, Kurtinitis.
And we have the pastor preacher, Sam Jones.
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Issue one.
As Jay the Crinkly once said, with all these gubernatorial elections, there are all of our gubernators.
Where's our Iowa gubernator?
What has changed since this August group met a mere three weeks ago?
We're going in alphabetical order.
any that have dropped any that are added to our original elite eight Craig Bergman.
Well, look, I'm still going to stick with exactly what I've said before.
None of the announced candidates are going to be able to beat sans and they probably
other than bird cannot beat each other in a primary.
And so our best take is someone who can get Trump's endorsement early, not late, someone who can get the establishment people behind them and not be feared as a wacko and somebody who can go to the base and say, look,
I will give you a hearing on the life bill and put it on the floor.
Do your job and get people to vote for it.
I will not stall it.
If it comes to my desk, I will sign it and I will say no to eminent domain.
You want the pipeline?
Bruce, you're getting $10 billion.
Go buy the farmland and only one guy fits that category.
Matt Whitaker and he's probably not going to run.
A strong bromide out of the chute from Bitcoin Bergman.
I turned a military power bower.
What say you?
Oh, excellent one.
Well, we were talking about this a little earlier in the week.
And, you know, to your point, John, the Democrats, I do think are going to co-opt on the issues of private property and government waste.
And, you know, I'm going to steal from Sam Jones, you know,
I think Sam's correct.
I think that they're going to, I think the Democrats are going to abandon identity politics because you know what?
What's better than electing someone who doesn't fit the mold of an Iowan than voting in a handsome white guy who is pro 2A, hunts, but is a Democrat and he's moving back to center.
So, you know, I have to disagree that
Whitaker is going to be the one that that saves the Republican Party.
You know, Brad Sherman.
Great guy.
I don't think he's fundraising.
Mike Buslow fundraising like a machine, but not what the people want.
Bobby Kaufman.
Bobby Kaufman.
Where are you?
You're our only hope.
Interesting tidbit midway through this first discussion.
I talked to Bobby Kaufman earlier in the week.
Please stand by.
But I turn to you, Master Pastor Sam Jones, your take.
Yeah, you know, John, I think this is an interesting situation that we're in.
Of course, the big news that's come out, the one that we didn't have pegged, I would say last time was Mike Booslow.
We didn't necessarily see him coming into it, but maybe we should have had him pegged before as he has connections, of course, to
Well, Nebrandt's that machine, and of course Big Time Money has powers.
Curtis pointed out that he's raising money like crazy.
The issue is he is not a pro-private property.
You know, I went, interestingly, you know, I think he wouldn't only want to do eminent domain there to get a pipeline in, but I think you'd be okay doing eminent domain in order to get the southern half of Minnesota as part of Iowa as well.
He kind of has some interesting views on property, but
I don't think that we'll have a really strong candidate right now.
I would still kind of put it out there and say, you know, the dark horse.
As I mentioned last time to really throw his name in the hat is Bobby Coffin.
He seems like the kind of a guy who's a populist that could really kind of get in the race and get some wins.
But.
When we're we're looking at this, I'm not seeing somebody emerge as a true Christian conservative who's going to stand on the Republican platform, let alone the Bible.
And so to be the conscience of Iowa, I've got to say, what are we doing?
What are we doing?
Republican Party, is this the best we have to offer?
Lamb and Sammy, we now give the final word to Kelsey's Calvinist, Joel Curtinitis.
Go, Joel.
Yeah, so since last time we've got Ashley Henson ruling herself out, the slate of candidates I don't feel has improved overall.
One thing that I saw this week was that I thought was interesting in relation to the gubernatorial race is that Steve Dacis in Washington DC, I'd be a little bit surprised if there's not discussions happening there around who conservatives can rally behind in the state.
I know that the week slate of candidates does give an opportunity for somebody else to sweep in and nobody's really looking impressive at this time.
Now,
The last thing I brought up in our last conversation was the possibility of Third District being in play for Congress in the midterms.
If Zack Nunn feels that heat, he may make that jump.
He may decide, it really just depends on his ego and his ambition, whether he would consider that to be a more likely...
good result for him to go up against Rob Sand in that race, then it would be to hold his own congressional seat.
That's from Joel Curtinitis.
Answer is Bobby in the mix.
Will he defer to Pat Grassley, who also is seriously considering a run?
Issue two.
Conclave prognosis.
This ensemble correctly was the first outlet via the
Kansas City group in the nation of any media source in November of 2024 to call the election officially early for Donald Trump with almost absolute apedictical precision in the Electoral College vote at 11 oh eight p.m central time people conclave up on the seventh literally one week from today they march in with an answer and
Ladies and gentlemen, they too have an electoral college, the College of Cardinals, 138, with two health defections, 136, two thirds of majority need, some of these get 91 votes, any opining from our Catholic and Protestant friends on the show.
I now go next in alphabetical order, we go to our power bower.
So, you know, I think
In our conversations last week, Joel had it right.
He's a Franciscan friar.
He took the time to learn Arabic after he was appointed as a cardinal.
He's the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem.
He's a member of the order of the sepulcher.
I mean, and the one thing that I think would play against him is that he just turned 60 years old on the 21st.
But
What's really interesting to me is he's been so instrumental in the Israeli-Palestinian relations over the last several years that I cannot just dismiss that.
And I think that with the heart of Christianity coming out of Israel and Jerusalem, I can't ignore it.
I think Pizzabala is likely going to be the pick.
Bauer, Chandling, Jacobson's initial throwing in of the Pizzabolla name weeks ago.
Bauer is onto something, but what do my confrers here on the radio shows say?
I go to you, Master Pastor Jones.
The public leftist media is all in on Tagle and perhaps Perlin and maybe even Zuppi.
What do you say, Jones?
Does the left wing media have
it wrong again?
Well, I mean, first of all, John, I would say that the left-wing media pretty much always has it wrong.
But if I were making a list of criteria for what the pope should be, you know, the first thing I would say is that we need to go back to, you know, that original pope, go all the way back to the apostolic succession, and we need to look to the pattern of Peter.
We need somebody who's got, you know, a mother-in-law.
We need somebody who's married.
The second thing is, is we need somebody who's all of us.
I like that idea.
I like that idea.
Continue.
We need somebody who's all about Sola Scriptura.
You know, I mean, that's just absolutely important that we really get back to the foundation of the Bible.
But I'll tell you where I would settle, John, and that is just to get a Pope back that I can honestly say is the Pope Catholic and mean that rhetorically, and it's not a Jesuit Marxist.
That's kind of where I'm at at this
point.
Pastor Sam Jones, Joe Curtinitis, how do you type that type of bromide, my friend?
Well, I mean, I'm probably not the the one to talk to about this this side of things I'm about as far to the other side on ecclesiology as you can get however
That's why we love you on this show here.
We need you in this my friend
Well, I what I will say is this culturally there is a heavy return particularly among Gen Z and younger people Not just back toward Christianity in the West but specifically back toward the Catholic and Orthodox churches.
I think that the Catholic Church is
certainly going to look to capitalize on that, not only in comparison to Protestant denominations, but also just across the board.
I think they're going to look to pick someone who is probably close to the middle and able to grab hold of that momentum and pull as many folks in as possible, make the church as attractive as possible.
I think there's an opportunity there that they won't want to miss in putting somebody in the middle.
And I think also with the divisive political environment we have in the West, they're probably going to shy away from anyone on either extreme
dream at this point.
What a panel.
Incredible takes Bergman, Meisterberger, Berger, Meisterbergman.
You have the final say here.
Well, you know where I'm coming from.
I'm the most Catholic Protestant among the group, maybe among the world, but look.
Do you have
a little orthodox in there too?
A little orthodox?
Look.
When George was picked, he was 76.
When Joseph was picked, he was 78.
We're not going for some 60-year-old.
Even the moderate centrist candidate, Secretary of State Pietro, is 70.
So that means you're going to have a pope for 10, 15 years, and 108 of the 135 cardinals have been appointed to their position.
by Francis George, and they share his worldview.
The conservatives know they don't have the votes for their guy, but they can prevent anyone else.
So I am going 100% for Peter, the Roman, and the prophecy.
Does that mean you're looking at Perlin or are you looking at Pizabala?
No, I'm looking at Parolin.
Pisa ballas way
too young.
It's not going to happen.
OK, guys, here's my take.
These are all four fascinating takes.
So the mainstream media is convinced it's going to be a protégé of France's.
They think it's going to be possibly Taguay or possibly Zuppi.
They're hoping, at the very least, for a Parolin.
But Parolin has his own issues, although he's probably got 40 to 50 votes and can mock any.
conservative right-word such as the great Cardinal Sarah of Guinea and Burke from the United States.
He also can be blunted because there are not enough votes to get to 91 without the centrist block of 25 Cardinals.
Overton's window, the furthest left they'll go is Perlin, but Perlin has some problems that some do not like his China Concordia that was negotiated.
especially Cardinal Zen, who in his 90s is in Rome, trying to help people understand what's going on in the church for the upcoming conclave.
I'm going to check on him.
A candidate that still seems to come back in my mind as someone who could hold up the center right, and probably would be the most conservative one, electable, is the prelate from the Holy Land.
himself.
And that is Pizzabala, who offered himself as a hostage to Hamas, and at least for all of the Israeli children that were kidnapped in that October of 23 terror attack, deemed to be a fair broker, however, because he is preaching Christ in the Holy Land and standing up for the Christians who live there, as well as being from...
To the conclave of hope, you come out a cardinal.
Issue three.
Donald Trump won 100 days.
Is it one of more consequential 100 days?
And how do you grade Donald Trump on a grade scale?
F failure?
A. Excellent.
I turn to you first, pastor, master, Sam Jones.
Hey, John.
Yep.
You know, looking at the grade here for Donald Trump, you know, the problem that I run into is that I'm a hard grader.
And so I'm not going to win any friends here, but I just don't grade up my curve.
And I mean, we've got, you know, blood's still running freely in the streets.
We've still got sign of my marriage and we've still got transgenderism that's running wild in our nation.
So I just got to give it a fail, but it's nothing personal against Donald Trump.
It's just kind of where we're at as a society.
That's Pastor Sam Jones now to Ms.
Kirtanitis Joel, what say you?
Joel, you were being whipsawed by left and right today.
Do the Venn diagrams intersect or are they mutually exclusive criticisms of you?
I think you're a good guy.
Great out the president.
I'm a walking example of the horseshoe theory in some areas.
That's my problem.
No, what I run into with the president's grade is this.
I see a huge split for him between his foreign policy and his domestic policy so far.
In terms of domestic policy, I'm going to give him a B.
I think he's doing mostly really well.
I love that Tom Holman's been cut loose.
I'm not the most hard-line immigration person ever, but it was clear that he came into office with a mandate and he's fulfilling that.
I love the moves toward religious liberty.
I love that he has brought respectability back to the Justice Department.
My old common law professor, Mike Ferris, was just talking about how the panel that the Trump administration just put together for discrimination against Christians and how they were hearing all the cases
and pledging their offices to fight that.
That's huge after what we just went through with the Biden administration.
So very, very impressed with that and happy to see it.
Now, on the other hand, I'm
I'm just not happy with what we're doing in foreign policy so far.
I'm glad that we're not sending troops overseas at this point, but I'm very, you know, I'm unhappy with the way that trade policy is being handled.
And I think we're, you know, certainly the American people are too.
At this point, the polling is disastrous on the way that trade policy is being handled right now.
And I think it could have very bad downstream implications in the midterms.
And then the other part, of course, is that Putin has not backed down.
And so we've got some work to do on that on that front as well for the Trump.
administration.
So I'd probably give them a D in foreign policy and a B in domestic.
So a mixed bag split decision, foreign and domestic from Kurt Knightus.
Tough grader, Sam Jones, precedent to that.
Greg Bergman, are you an easier grader than these two gents?
Well, I wouldn't say I'm an easier grader, but I'm a more pragmatic, realist grader.
Look, I've worked in Washington, DC.
I lived in Washington, DC.
I've ran hundreds of campaigns and dozens of statewide.
And I'm probably the only person in the United States to be a senior number three position staffer on five different US presidential campaigns.
Most people are one guy and done.
Some are hats who do multiples, but they're not in the top.
You know, you got your communication director, you got your campaign manager, and you got your political director.
And I've done the politics of it because I understand the brutality of politics is war and war is politics.
And so as we are winning this war.
And I mean on every front, the war in Ukraine, the trade policy, I totally disagree with Joel as you know on that, the tax reform.
That's why the upcoming debate between you two that we continue to advertise.
Yeah, yeah, we're going to make it happen eventually because the issue doesn't go away, but.
on the domestic front, like the Christian assembly he's put together there.
We haven't had anything like this happen since Lincoln, okay?
This is the greatest president of the United States possibly since Washington and Lincoln.
So for everything he's doing, failures, warts, and looking at the cold reality of the slow grind of the machine,
and knowing all the factions he has to appease with a five-vote margin in the Congress and the midterms and the media.
I don't imagine a God-given talent of human ingenuity that could do better.
He sounds like King Cyrus of Persia.
Mr. Bauer, a mayor, your honor.
What say you?
I'm going to say his grade is a C minus.
I love the intent.
I strongly dislike the implementation.
Reducing the bureaucracy and the reduction in force on these federal agencies, they should be merit-based, not arbitrary and unilateral.
It's simply capricious to assume any other way.
And as far as the mass deportations with regards to his allegations of enemy aliens, my issue with it is
that we're not following the spirit and intent of the law or even like addressing the constitution because the constitution does not say citizen.
It says that due process is entitled to all persons because we have to be able to follow the law down to the letter and they have to have the opportunity to prove that they don't belong here.
So if we abandon that, we abandon everything.
And by my view,
I disagree on trade.
I think tariffs are a bad idea long term.
It sets everything up for failure.
It's more of a tool to be the stick and not the carrot.
It doesn't incentivize any good relationships.
So that's where I stand.
And Jacobson weighs in here with moderators prerogative.
Guys, I want to accentuate some positives.
I'm an old man.
I go back to the first Reagan term.
I see a lot of eerie parallels, including biting the bullet in short-term pain for some long-term gain on the economy.
Reagan was on water and pulling an 81, 82, 83 with some tough love, high interest rate shock treatment to kill inflation in the American economy.
Three years of recession until a cascading gargantuan economic recovery in 84 that amounted to 49 states based on the Reagan paradigm.
He has assembled a quality cabinet.
that is cohesive.
He prevented what could have been World War III two weeks ago when he ordered BB Netanyahu to stand down instead of a dramatic full-force invasion of Iran, free speech, and freedom of religion, as my confers have alluded to earlier, big projects meeting with great results.
Also, the specific ending of lawfare against innocent American citizens targeting their of COVID accountability coming from the office of RFK Jr., COVID accountability
may even come to Iowa in such a way that it could affect the gubernatorial race.
More on that later.
Trump's isolation of China to Muhammad Ali, ropa-doping.
He is cutting ad hoc deals with all other trading partners, writing the tablets down from 50 to 100 percent tariffs down to 20 and 10 percent tariffs with U.S.
trading partners.
No more bricks threat to dislodge the dollar.
He has peeled away India and
Russia and isolated China.
Tax cuts will go in for perpetuity.
He is now also got doge getting rid of felonious spending and best accomplishment of all, de facto closing of the border.
I grade Trump at N.A.
Issue four.
Whoa, Canada and India and Pakistan.
We hope they don't blow in the dark in the dark.
Guys, what's going on there?
Canada inexplicably doubles down on disaster, and Indian Pakistan, again, both armed to the teeth with nukes, about to skirmish.
What say you, Joel Kirtnitis?
Well, Canada is a situation where we had a...
big lead in the conservative party there was completely blown.
Obviously, there's nothing one dimensional about it.
But I think that the conservative party there was put in a tough situation when the Trump administration started kind of picking fights with Canada while the campaign
was
running and shortly before that.
And so
if you're the candidate up there, you're kind of caught between a rock and a hard place at that point.
The meme had worn itself out.
And of course, anybody with brothers understands that you can fight.
You can fight with your brother all you want.
until somebody else tries to get in the fight.
And then you team up against him.
And I think that's what we just got in Canada.
I think it really was far less about the domestic policies or people's rejection of them than it was about, yeah, that's fine, but we're still Canadians.
And there's that sense of ego that kicks in.
And Pakistan and India have been at each other's throats for a really long time.
I did not think that it was going to be renewed with the...
speed with which it has been, but the animosity is built up over time.
I don't think there's going to be any nuclear issues there, but I do think we're probably going to see some more armed skirmishes break out before the major powers get involved to try to settle things down again.
That was Joel Kurtinaitis with his opening take.
Craig Bergman, you're up next.
Well, Canada, oh, Canada, oh, Canada is a lost cause.
What passes for conservatives
there?
Always the optimist Bergman.
You're always the optimist Bergman.
Yeah, well, I was on Trump.
I'm not on Canada.
That's true.
That's true.
And I'm with you on Trump.
Continue, my friend.
Yeah, Trump is a plus best human possible.
Canada is Europe light always has been
They've never had freedom.
They don't know it, possess it.
They've never had to defend themselves from anything.
And they will commit cultural suicide the way all liberal socialist societies do.
There's nothing we can do for them.
They should flee if they are conservative before they end up closing the border and becoming hostile to
us.
The only thing I can say is this is the first time in 70 years that a Castro
has not been in charge of a North American
government.
All right, look, let's talk about India and Pakistan.
Pakistan was carved out of India by Great Britain in their colonial era.
Its whole entire culture is because Britain chose
to pick Muslim leaders at that time to divide and weaken the Hindu people on the India side.
It's an artificial creation.
It's the analysis or analogous to the fake people of Palestine who are really Jordanian refugees.
So Pakistan is a nuclear armed rogue illegitimate state.
I'm 100% pro
I'm 100% as Patrick Henry told us 200 years ago.
When shall we be stronger?
This is not how you deal with radical Islam.
And I am all for India doing whatever it takes to solve the problem permanently up to and including potential World War III.
Well,
never one to shy away from a strong opinion.
Curtis Bauer, combat vet from Iraq, your take on the situation.
It is an ironic contemplation, isn't it, Curtis Bauer?
What peacemaker, nonviolent, passive resistance, Mohandas Gandhi, the bloodbath that ensued after he embarked upon his peaceful quest for independence.
Go, Curtis, take it
away.
with the recent election of basically reinstalling their liberal party.
I have to say that it's not an ideal situation and I find that liberals tend to go to war more easily than conservatives, but I also understand that
Pakistan and India, it's just been a really, really hard time right now because I feel like the region is really destabilized with Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan in 2021.
It's been just absolutely devastating with the destabilization of that area.
And then when you start to consider the economic implications of India and Pakistan going to war, and then you've got China,
basically occupying the other side in Afghanistan.
What do you think is going to happen?
Because they're part of BRICS, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.
So that big financial conglomerate, that big affiliation is really what's going to, I think, give China a really big opportunity here to further destabilize the region.
And I think what's going to happen is with that, with those potential moves, the risk exists that they're going to be able to cut the Western world out of Asia, period.
Passing take from a man who's been over there, spent a lot of time in our armed forces doing incredibly important work over the middle of harm's way there.
Pastor or master, Sam Jones, you have the final word on, oh, Canada, I say, whoa, Canada, and the ever.
threatening India-Pakistani region.
Yeah, you know, John, first of all, I got to tell you that you're kind of a miracle worker here because I'm pretty sure that you just got a panel before me that is pretty much filled with libertarians and, you know, Ron Paulites to to come out and talk about foreign policy.
So I
mean,
that that was pretty much a miracle there that was what you just did.
But no, when we're looking at this foreign policy, you're exactly right.
It is.
Oh, well, Canada, you know, it is their secular state and the religion that is taking over once again.
And that's the the problem when you try
Chrysalis conservatism it always leads to being defeated whether it's Defeated by being within the party or from out the party because from without the party because you're taking away the the foundation you're taking away the true context of where conservatism can plant its feet and plant its roots and then when you get over to India and Pakistan it is an interesting idea once again once you get into the religion and that is just as Craig was pointing out you have basically the Muslim north there in Pakistan and the
Hindu South there in India and while all of this is going on and all these tensions are going on there's a reason for this and that is is that the the Muslims have across the world here have really felt empowered they feel like right now is a lot of their moment and it's not just there in the Middle East that you need to take a look at but specifically over in Africa whether you're looking at Niger state which has basically become a Muslim
or you're looking at what they're trying to do in Nigeria with well over 200 Christians martyred over over Easter in Palm Sunday there.
I'm just horrific things happening Muslims are feeling empowered and like they have a green light to go and we're starting to see some not just political jihad but actual physical jihad and that of course is going to cause tensions there at the Pakistan and India border and
You know Craig mentioned that that maybe we should have a green light to go even into World War three in order to stop the Muslims We're probably going to have to consider some kind of a war in order to stop the Muslims because of what is happening all around the world through They're empowering and I mean it's just they're just following the religion.
It's it's straight out of surah chapter 9 or surah 9 and I mean this is Islam when you take the mask of Takia off
so bonus question
Jacobson's bonus round of the night of the day of the morning is as follows.
Name the one world leader most responsible for preventing genocide against Christians in the Middle East.
There is one answer.
Bergman, I know you know the answer.
Get it right.
That is
Donald J. Trump,
without a doubt.
I'm going to give you 50% on that.
Bauer, what say you?
Oof, oof, oof, oof.
Holy buckets.
I can't attribute it to one person though.
Okay, let's go to Jones.
Jones way in.
Uh, you know, I mean, are you talking the statistical answer or the real answer?
Because the statistical answer would be, um, you know, Joe Biden, uh, because, uh, basically he just ignored the fact that Christians were being murdered, um, across the, the earth.
But no, uh, Craig is, is correct there that, uh, Donald Trump has indeed made an impact in speaking out against, uh, Christian persecution there.
Joel Curtinitis, you have a shot at this before I make heads explode.
No, I'm with the others on this because all I can think of is that time Ivanka got sad and then Trump dropped a Moab on Syria.
And I think every African country saw that and drew the proper conclusions.
Answer is the world leader who single-handedly has done the most to prevent genocide against Christians in the Middle East is Vladimir Putin.
Bank it, read it, it's true.
Issue five.
Circling back to Iowa politics, eminent domain, carbon capture pipeline.
Never the twain shall meet.
The Republican Party riven with strife.
The session of the legislature ending as we speak.
Will there be a vote to protect private landowners, to shut down the carbon capture pipeline?
Will the Senate
address this, or is Tony Bisignano the man of the session?
I go to you Craig Bergman.
Okay, 50% of all the corn in Iowa is grown on 5% of the owned farmland and totals $10 billion in tax subsidized ethanol income.
There is no possible way in the world this pipeline does not happen in that scenario.
Nobody wants to be responsible for a 90% fall in the price of land.
Nobody wants to see thousands of farmers wiped out because the land falls in that value.
Property rights are great.
I hate eminent domain.
It is a wickedness and a doctrine of demons.
But whether it's the Republicans or the Democrats, they have to put in power if the Republicans won't.
Ratsetter and the ethanol lobby is going to win this because $10 billion is at stake and they will do whatever it takes.
Machiavelli, Bergman, Curtis Bauer, he's talking real politic.
You're a purist.
You want property rights.
You don't like that kilo decision.
What's your take, Curtis Bauer?
Well, this is where Bergman and I disagree and we're going to, we're going to, there's the fork, right?
Big
surprise there.
Um, I don't think that.
When you compare the majority of the legislature in both chambers, as far as the Republican caucus goes, I don't think that you don't get a debate.
I think there's a debate is going to come, whether we like it or not.
And I do think that when the rubber meets the road, I think that the Senate Republicans are going to force the debate and
From what I understand, we've already got two Republicans that have publicly spoken, but we've also got, you know, they require seven more.
You know, I've been lobbying, lobbying, lobbying for the last several years.
I've got a pretty good feel for these guys.
I think that the Senate Republicans are going to demand a debate on the floor for that imminent domain bill period.
Pastor Jones, me thinks
Mr. Bauer has been cajoling senators this week.
What's your hunch?
You know, John, you very well, maybe right.
Curtis has generally got some pretty good information and some inside baseball there.
And I tend to agree with exactly what Curtis is saying as to how this is going to work out, especially when you consider that Senate side of things.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Senator Jack Whitford, but he is not on his A game since he's come down with this brain cancer that he has.
And this is going to be a
a problem for leadership to try to really kind of keep a a stranglehold on this and to to get them to do what they want them to do in fact looks like
to me that there are going to be enough senators in order to force a debate on this, which I think is going to be interesting because if we get on the scenario that Craig was putting forth, that they don't put forth the debate, you know, I think that we're going to see Rob Sand run pro-private property, pro-second amendment.
And of course, he's going to be a white male running for governor, calling out a do nothing, nothing legislature that couldn't get people in line to come to the...
needs of the people.
And so I think that we're going to see if they cannot get this private property thing talked about, if they can't get this debate to happen, I think it almost ensures that we're going to have a resurgence of the Democrat Party within Iowa.
From Pastor Sam Jones, Joel Curtinitis, you have the final word on this issue.
I think Sam had some good insights there, particularly as it comes to campaigning from Rob Sand.
But I also think the the bottom line is even if we get even if we get some words on the floor,
about it.
I don't think there's going to be a vote.
I just don't see that being realistic at this point.
in the legislature.
I mean, Iowa legislature is very good at tabling things at the end of session that they don't want to fight over this year.
And I just don't think the upside of eminent domain protection is there for most of these folks.
If they don't pass it, they're not going to lose their seats.
And I just don't, I don't think the fire is under them to get it done.
And to Craig's point, the money to interest in Iowa, particularly when it comes to agriculture, there's a certain obeisance that always has to be done there.
And I think that's going to end up taking the day not by defiance, but
because it's just gonna run out the clock.
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People are buying these posters that show all of the popes and people want to know what their names are, what their real names are, when they was alive and when they died, all that stuff.
And going along with this papal mania, I have kind of designed the contest about the popes.
It's called Find the Popes Into the Pizza.
It's all 264 folks that are in here.
And what we're going to do in about one minute, we're going to put a close up of this on your screen.
And you at home, all you have to do is get some wax paper, any kind of paper you can see through, and paste it to your screen or paper, whatever you want.
And all you got to do is get a pencil and draw a circle around it.
Every place you see a picture of a pope.
And while we're doing this, well, I think...
What I'm gonna do for the prize, whoever wins, you know, finds the most popes, they're gonna have a button that I designed myself.
I noticed on the tour, the best selling button was this.
It says, I got a peek at the pope.
And I designed a button that I think even more people can relate to.
It says, I saw the pope on TV.
This is what you win.
And now I think we're about to ready.
So, while you're looking at the pizza for 30 seconds, I'm gonna play a cut from Pius XII's album.
Here is Pius XII singing on the sunny side of the street.
And now, find the pulp in the pizza.
Good luck to you.
All is 254.
easy to find, some
a little clue for you.
Most of the popes have red faces.
Here's another clue.
One of them is in the right side of the screen.
Behind the
Well, I hope that you got quite a few of them.
Now, all you have to do is take the paper off, fold it up, put it in an envelope, and address it to find the popes in the pizza contest.
30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, New York, 10020 zip.
And I suggest that up here you put your turn address.
And the reason for that is when you go to the mailbox, just before you put it into the slot, you look here and it reminds you where you should go back to.
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Terry Moran ABC News castrated by Donald Trump in the White House interview over MS-13 gang tattoos.
Terry Moran utterly eviscerated and emasculated and later on elsewhere in the interview.
When he asked Trump if he trusts Putin, Trump said to Terry Moran, I don't trust you.
Guys, who is the loser of the week?
I'm going to start now with Curtis Bauer.
I'm thinking Vladimir Putin.
He subjugated himself to Chinese control.
He thinks he's in control, but I mean, the reality is he needs China's mass production power.
He needs China's just population.
He needs China's economical support everywhere you turn.
Putin thinks he's going to maintain his autonomy, but the reality is he doesn't have any autonomy.
He is basically owned and tattooed.
by the
Chinese.
with Ukraine, which establishes that buffer zone of Americans between Russian tanks and Ukrainian tanks.
What say you, Pastor Sam Jones?
Well, you know, John, I'm a...
I'm a sports fan, and so I immediately go into sports when I think about this, and the biggest loser this week has to be Giannis Antioquempo.
They're the Greek freak.
Not only did he lose there in the first round of the NBA playoffs, but even, you know, really sad, you know, hearts go out to Damian Lillard, who tours the Achilles tendon while playing that there.
So his number two guy lost.
And I mean, Giannis is pretty much stuck in this tough position where he's got to choose
Is he going to stay there in Milwaukee or is he going to ask for a trade?
A great take from the sports world.
Joel, Curtinitis, you're up next at bat.
I have biggest loser this week is pharmaceutical abortion industry.
The new study that came out showing that the risks to women using the abortion pill as reported in the studies that were used by the Biden administration to get it over the counter were 0.5%.
New study many, many, many times bigger.
I think the sample size was around 800,000 using insurance claims.
That number jumped up to 11% showing that it's high risk
risk probably going to get pulled off of over the counter and potentially there could even be a movement for a ban.
So big boost to the pro life community in terms of data this week.
And I think the big loser from that is not only the abortion lobby, but also the big pharma.
Great take by Joel Kurt Knight is Craig Bergman.
You wrap up.
Who's your loser of the week?
Because we all know that you are a winner Bergman.
Tell us who the biggest loser is.
I'm going to 50% agree with Curtis on this and say it is Vladimir Putin, but second place is China because what's happening in that dynamic with what Trump is doing on the national stage is, I mean, I've written, you know, thousand word essays on this once a week for the last couple years.
So there's no way I can do it in a 60 second soundbite.
But essentially, Trump has just won World War III.
Wow.
A daring commentary, which brings us to issue 6B bonus.
Who will remain in office longer, Donald Trump or Xi Jinping?
I go to you Joel Curtinitis.
I think Xi Jinping is going to die in office.
We read a read a book Kelsey and I did last year called We Have Been Harmonized would highly recommend that's a great analysis of modern China and the extent of control that they have a revolution in China or any meaningful change at the higher levels is almost unthinkable at this point.
It could be done, but I think he'll he'll certainly be there as long as he wants to be
throwing book recommendation from Curtinitis Bergman.
Why do I think you may differ?
I actually don't.
No possibility that Putin or Xi leaves office without a bed sheet put over their head.
Now that could come much sooner than Joel believes because there's, you know, big trouble in little China, as they say.
But dictators, once they've amassed the cult of personality, once their team around them no longer tells them the truth because the truth is fatal.
The regime is dead, and it's usually dead in about 10 years from that point.
And both of those people in the last five have crossed that line to where they are no longer even functional oligarchies.
They are complete cult of personality, one man rule, and therefore no truth, no information that is true can reach them.
So all decisions are made in error.
Curtis Bauer, you've had to live around Mideast dictators.
What's your take?
How long does Xi remain in power?
Does he outlast even the American presidential term?
Well, it's a loaded question because Xi Jinping is 71.
And, you know, even though we know that President Trump is in his 70s as well,
you know, our presidents are for four years.
And let's say, God forbid that President Trump were to die in office.
That means we would have the young, robust, 40-year-old JD Vance as the president, right?
So does it really matter?
Because I think that either way, we've got a really strong, conservative White House that I think is going to last at least the next 12 years.
So
Can Ji Jing Ping last for the next 12 years?
I don't think so.
Sam, you're up.
Pass to Sam Jones.
What say you?
Who's going to have the longest tenure heading out from this point forward?
You know, John, I have a rule that whenever I'm asked this question that I always give this answer.
And that is, of course, the honorable Chuck Grassley will surpass both of them.
And he will continue in office because, you know, he started off there in George Washington's second term, I believe, or at least when there's 48 states, as you like to point out.
No, but on a serious note, I definitely think
that Donald Trump will be out of the White House before the dictator is done there in China.
Finally, issue seven, your rant or your kudo or your prediction of the week.
We'll start with you again, Craig
Bergman.
I don't do rants.
So this one here, I'm gonna just take the easy way out and say, life will go on and something this week will surprise us.
Curtis Bauer.
Well, I'm going to do a little bit of a rant and that would be, you know, I think in life we just need to be a little bit more adult about things.
And, you know, I think that a lot of times in life,
We don't put ourselves in the other side's shoes enough to at least understand where the other side is coming from.
And we don't like it when it's not done, when we want someone to see our point of view as well.
So, you know, I like to employ a little bit of understanding and empathy.
And I implore others to engage in a little bit of understanding and empathy when we're discussing issues like this, because, you know,
As a mayor, I get the, I get the flak a lot because, you know, people want to chronically complain, but yet they don't bring the solutions.
So that would be my rant for the week.
Curtis, I agree.
I always say you got to mix comma D with comma T, C-O-M-I-T-Y.
Pastor Sam Jones, what say you?
You know, Curtis, fortunately for you, I've got not only a rant and a complaint, but I do have a solution.
So that, you know, that's good.
My rant and complaint, it comes back to actually that study that Joel pointed out, that Joel pointed out, excuse me, about abortion pills and how they're dangerous for the mother.
You know, I'm just going to to point it out here.
It's even more dangerous for the baby in the womb.
And unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the pro-life law.
be quite understands this because we're more concerned about somebody who might murder their baby.
I mean, my goodness, I think it should be dangerous to murder someone, especially the most innocent within the womb.
And we're completely looking at this wrong.
We got to ask the right question.
The right question is not, is it dangerous to take the abortion pill for the person who's taking the abortion pill?
The question is this, why aren't we treating the person who's taking the abortion pill like the murderer that they are?
We need to criminalize this abortion.
And until we start standing up for justice,
until we get the church and so we get Republicans to come and conservatives to speak out and say, you know what, we need to stand up for justice.
Babies are going to continue to be murdered in the womb.
And so what is the solution?
We need equal justice under the law.
We got to stop this whole this whole craziness of my goodness, we can't commit abortions or take abortion pills because it's bad for the environment.
It's bad for the person who takes it.
Well, how about we just view the person in the womb as in fact a person and give them equal protection and equal justice under the law?
So that is my rant and my solution for the week.
An impassioned plea for the sanctity of human life.
Joel Curtin, I guess you get the final word in this segment.
I'm gonna give an ad-a-boy to Pastor Sam on that one.
He's absolutely correct.
However, my rant is in a different direction.
Can we please, fellow Midwesterners, can we please stop making gigantic events out of every red radar streak that comes down the pike?
We just had it again within the last week where all of this hype coming up and meetings canceled and businesses shutting down early and all just...
And once again, absolutely nothing came through.
It's almost like a sporting event at this point, trying to predict the weather here in the Midwest over the spring.
So, you know, getting a little control of the hype and not having the clickbait articles and all the other doom casting that happens around weather events here in the Midwest.
Yes, storms happen.
Yes, rain comes.
And sometimes hail comes with it.
And occasionally this long, snaky thing comes out of the sky.
But it's the Midwest.
We should act like we're used to it at this point.
Oh,
Joe.
Adam Boyd.
There's an Attaboy for Joe Curtinitis.
Bonus question eight, putting you on the spot.
Best book, motion picture, or streaming binge guilty pleasure that you recommend for audiences to partake in.
Putting you on the spot, Craig Bergman.
I just finished the Loki series.
It is a fantastic Christian redemption story arc for who was an evil God.
I don't want to spoil it any more than that for those who haven't seen it.
But if you know anything about the Marvel Cinematic Universe, you want to watch the 12 episode two season Loki story.
It is a plus.
That is excellent recommendation.
Also, Professor Bergman.
My business students, we're hanging on your every word with your lecture on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
Thank you for your largest there.
Can't wait for your upcoming debate with Mr. Curtinitis on tariffs.
Let's go to Curtis Bauer.
Curtis, you could even cite case law, your favorite case that you've read this week.
I know you've been scouring them on the
national immigration issue, but any other guilty pleasures, streaming series, movie or book.
So the one book that I really, really, really love to read over and over and over is The Strategy of the Indirect Approach by Basil Henry Liddell Hart.
It tells you how to deal with humans in conflict, how to approach human nature, and it takes the art of war and expands on it.
So it's a very, very good book that can be applied in many multiple facets of life.
Well, Curtis, we appreciate your service to our country.
Indeed, you saw lots of blood and violence where you were.
And we remember all of our Americans, many still with us from the Vietnam War anniversary of which was observed solemnly this week.
What a price.
If you believe the domino theory,
which I do, I believe those lives were very, very important in the overall arc toward Cold War victory.
We'll talk about that on another show, but thanks to all of our veterans and our Vietnam veterans.
Pastor Jones, a minute for you.
Guilty pleasure or maybe a book of the Bible?
Yeah, you know, John, when I'm not listening to the Jacobson group.
What I spend my time doing here recently is I've been going back and going over some of the classics and recently I read at Macbeth from Shakespeare, good old Shakespearean play and I have to admit
I thoroughly enjoyed it much more than when I probably first read any Shakespeare back in high school.
And, you know, just going to tell people, you know, do the classics for a reason and good to read.
You know, great to see Macbeth is not just a tragedy there, who someone who devolves into power and seeking that, but really a conflict and a reluctant tyrant.
But that's that's probably deeper.
what we need to be going here in this minute.
I love it.
Western Civ and British Literature.
We got a minute left.
Joel, wind us up here, buddy.
All right.
Well, you know, my wife is an absolutely voracious reader and we do a lot
of reading together as well.
So
I've got a lot of books to choose from here.
We try to alternate between fiction and nonfiction.
But in the last few months, one of the ones that I had never read before that really caught my attention is one I would recommend really everybody read.
If you have not gone back and done it is the original Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe.
Fantastic, brilliant work.
That's
super insightful.
full about things that are going on right now still
today,
a deep dive into human nature.
And I mean, I'll spoil, I'll spoil it this much and say that the fact that Uncle Tom is used as a pejorative these days is absurd to me.
He's one of the greatest heroes in all of fiction.
And I was blown away by that book masterfully written and would just highly recommend it to anybody.
Great take, Joel.
A masterful panel.
We have to bring them back again.
We did six great Star Trek movies.
We got the Enterprise crew.
Coming back for a third journey, coming soon.
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Thank you to Curtis Bauer.
Thank you to Sam Jones.
Thank you to Joel Curtinitis.
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