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And wow, do we have our epic reunited team back in place.

as we're heading toward the end of summer and the real final 80 days around the world in 80 days of the presidential election we've got with us.

Mike Shane in studio with his inevitable and well-deserved great tone.

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Mike Shane in studio.

John Jacobson here today from the Kansas Plains.

Reconnoitering doing some investigative research on the

Kansas political landscape and we have on the phone the legendary Georgetown icon coach Patrick Jay Knapp Jr.

Chip Reedman the great retired engineer Iowa State alum and of course we've got with us even additional special guest we've got Tim Grover our East Iowa rover

And then we've got Wake Hopping, our young generation, our millennial, our Gen Z, our youngster with his perspective, and the one, the only, the inimitable Murphy Brothers sister team of Sheila Murphy and Tim Murphy as the crowd goes wild in studio for this wonderful group.

And Mike Shane, all I expect Mike Shane is this time for issue number one.

Presidential race getting down and dirty.

I'm going to start with Sheila Murphy here, and then I'm going to go to coach because frankly, ladies and gentlemen, we've got a big problem right now since the slight of hand exit of Joe Biden, not exit, but coup from the race engineered by Obama and actually closely removed Joe Biden.

Kamala Harris has been riding a cascade.

of Lenny Rief and style barrier type of propaganda mainstream media endorsements.

And Trump has been having a couple difficult weeks because he's having trouble getting his message out there non-filtered.

Polling now is typed up and shows Harris ahead in some of the out-of-ground states.

I go to you Sheila Murphy.

Do we need to get worried?

How does Trump get back on

message?

Yeah, he needs first thing that Trump needs is to keep it on policy and off of emotion.

You know, that's part of his personality.

He can't resist a vendetta, but this is not the time.

So he needs to just be more direct.

And we have to realize that we will not get anywhere with the media.

So don't even try.

He has to do more of person to person what he does best.

Big events, big crowds.

We can't pile on the media to get his message out there, so he's got to be out there more.

People are complaining they're not seeing him enough, so I think that that's the answer for him.

And as far as the panel goes, it doesn't matter who they replace Biden with.

A pair of socks could be running against Trump, and they'd be on the cover of Time Magazine as heroes of the day.

Yeah, they

tried to make a

plug-mike mother of priests crying out loud, but Sheila, I agree with you.

Sheila, one thing that you and Kip never had to worry about, though, when you piloted me to all those undefeated victories in Iowa Legislature, you never had to admonish me about moving off of Genesis, did you?

No, John.

We didn't have to start it.

It was just continual.

Kip, any two cents you want to add into

that?

Yeah, Trump has to be a little more succinct in his messaging.

That's what I'm hearing.

A lot of the complaints are, his speeches are too long now.

He's got to calm down and be just a little harder hitting.

You know, a little more on point, I guess, would be the word.

It's campaign 101.

He needs to get three major issues, say them and push it and push it and push

it.

Amen, girls.

economy, boom, crime, boom, border, boom.

And bad news is it sounds like he's bringing Corey Lewandowski back, but we'll talk about that later.

Coach, speak to me from the New Mexico Desert.

Coach Patrick J. Napp, Jr.

Good morning, everybody.

The Murph towns were absolutely right.

Stay on message and discipline.

Repeat what they do, not what they say.

Any conversation of the border has to be about, forget what they're proposing.

They've got 10 million people in already.

How can you trust them?

Give some examples of how price controls have never worked, and this is what they're proposing.

Private health insurance, she wants to get rid of it.

You know what that means for you and your family.

Repeat what they do, repeat what they say.

Yeah.

Coach is right.

That means death panels.

And I haven't even begun to tee off against Tim Walls yet, but we'll have time for that later.

Blake Hopping, we need a young person's perspective.

You're heading to the Iowa State Fair, or what say you?

Yeah, I think Trump needs to be on point.

He had a good...

showing with that Musk interview, Elon Musk interview, and then also yesterday they had a event in New Jersey where he took questions from the media.

But he definitely needs to stay on point with his policies and hammer her on her policies because they're trying to make her attorney general policies of California, her record there as the standard, which was horrible.

And then her other policies are what Joe Biden has, like his policies or her policies right now.

with this administration, and the record is not good.

So they just need to hammer that.

And then the two policies that she's come out for with running for presidency is, one, she stole from Trump, which was the no tax on tips, and then this price setting, price setting for groceries.

Yeah, we want to turn into the Weimar Republic.

All we have to do is look at the Nixon's.

a wage and price control disaster in the early 70s.

I lived through it.

It was bad.

Tim Grover, you have the final word on issue one.

Some great after basing so far, but I would like to add, Harris's surge is from people leaving Kennedy and going back to the Democratic Party.

I don't know if there's anything that Trump can actually do from a message standpoint right now.

It's going to change anything.

We're in trench warfare now.

We're into that season where

The ads are all paid for, the calendar is all set up, and Trump is actually a victim of a inept, incompetent, and arcade Republican National Committee.

Yes, I know his daughter-in-law is on there, but she wanders in, and she doesn't actually know what's going on there.

So... Then you have the penultimate comment, and I think you've zeroed into something, but...

I want to go to Nebraska right now, very emblematic of what's going on nationally.

Nebraska O2 literally could decide the election.

A lot of pollsters right now at the Electoral College at 270 to 268 with Nebraska too, because Nebraska allocates like Maine does by congressional district, slightly favoring at this juncture, Kamala Harris and Don Bacon in trouble.

They're the Republican incumbents.

chip read me can you give us a reading of the ground there i think on the heart is emblematic of what's going on nationally talk to me chip read that

you have downs got a definitely a difficult situation in his district it's pretty purple uh... they've read district of the of the map a couple times now over the last six eight years to try and keep it bleeding as republican as they can get uh... without getting too far out of bounds but he does have about top roto ho it in the state of nebraska or in his district

because he has a city of Omaha, which leans Democrat, that forces him to pretty much cave to the middle as often as he does, much to the chagrin of a lot of people locally.

People outside of the Omaha area wouldn't know.

He had a pretty tough race against another gentleman, Dan Fry, who tried to knock him out of his seat.

He won, I would say, comfortably, but not much better than that in the primary.

So it's nothing is a given.

He's in a situation where if he bleeds too moderate, he's just going to lose votes.

And that could cost him that district.

And those are the people that are going to come out and possibly vote for a hero.

So he's running again.

So it's a tough deal.

I think he can pull it out.

And hopefully the Trump side can carry him with it as long as he doesn't go on and say something stupid.

Good takes by all.

The answer is Trump needs to do one, two, three.

Hammer economy immigration crime and the wild card world war three speaking of issue two

I

am horror world war Chip Reidman you live not far from strap comes to your command and What's being buried by the media is the Ukraine backed by US military weapons incursion including US tanks.

They've now invaded

Holy Mother Russia, the mainland of Russia, they are just south of Moscow.

They have 400 square miles of Kursk that they have overtaken, with American tanks rolling in.

First, I'll go to you, Chair Breedman.

chip are you a little anxious that maybe uh... mr putin done a lot one the men's room a scrap tom there and that you'll be giving us glowing reviews before long i start with your treatment

well actually uh... i'm calling from the north right now i'm calling from wisconsin so what happened to you know you know

to get out of that

yeah i'd i'd be okay for at least a few hours until i hit the road and start heading back home i'm not so much concerned about the tanks uh... usage i'm more concerned about it

If we are to start giving them something crazy like cruise missiles or something like that, Ukraine, that is, start giving them weaponry that can actually be lobbed into Moscow.

That's what I'd worry about much more, much more lethal force, much more dangerous to the population of Russia and to the Kremlin.

That's the biggest scare that I have.

So is nuclear war Biden's ultimate wag the dog key to reelection victory?

You know, John, I know it's always

possible and in the cards and a huge threat, but I don't go that far.

I realize that Ukraine, at least to me, needs to be negotiated out.

I'm more concerned with the money and ornaments that we spend there, that we spend in the Middle East, and then we may have to turn towards Taiwan and we're strangulated and we

We spend it all out.

I think that we can be ruined economically that way by spreading ourselves too thin.

It takes

all the gates from Chip and Coach.

I go to you, Tim Grover.

Yeah, I totally agree with Chip and Coach.

I think we're in more of a danger of...

of our internet being hacked, our power grid going down from Russia.

And like yesterday, everywhere I went, the chip reader wasn't working.

You had to use the tap.

And there's more going on than just this conventional worker.

So commercial epidemiology is going on.

I can tell you that Jerome Colisey has been, I guess, on their show.

He has found.

the code that they use to get into the OS system on the tabulation machine for their elections.

And I know one certain guy that's deciphering it right now because he used to use keys like this to get into other countries' computers for us back in his day.

We're looking at depthment of people in our economy, and we need to prepare for that.

And it's going to come along the lines of, well, the Iowa game might not get streamed or something.

So that's a real threat, I think we're really facing right now.

And now we turn to Blake Hopping.

Blake, what's to say to you?

I noticed in the Kansas City area, south and west this week, we have an almost 24-hour time span of T-Mobile, Verizon, everything down telephonically.

as well as some other situations, very eerie, very strange.

What say you, Blake?

Yeah, I think the biggest fear, like Chip said, is going to be escalation.

If they retaliate, or Russia that is, in some fashion, then we start sending more and more type of weapons like cruise missiles over.

Eventually, everyone knows that Ukraine is backed by us.

I mean, that's just a given.

It's just a matter of time before Putin and then China, if they invade Taiwan, are just going to look at us instead of what they're dealing with and make a retaliatory strike against us, which would be devastating because like everyone else at our power grid infrastructure is not ready for something like that if we do get attacked.

So we need to be really careful.

I think that

Biden and the Democrats, since their fight for democracy are going to always be in this, and it's going to devastate us economically.

And now we'll turn to my favorite cold warriors, Sheila and Chip Murphy.

Do we continue to roll tanks toward Moscow, gang?

John, look at it this way.

They rolled into curse.

They've taken a lot of territory.

They forced the Russians to pull their troops out of their offensive to move back into Russia from their legal invasion of Ukraine to help bolster defenses.

And also, look at it this way, when Trump wins, this gives him a much better negotiating table than before.

If Ukraine is holding Russian territory, it gives the Ukrainians something to give back.

Does the Russians get out of Ukrainian territory?

Food for thought.

Good

food for thought.

Sheila Murphy, would America be better off if Douglas County invaded Potawatomi and took over the party?

Yeah, uh, no.

In a short answer, no.

You know, my view is kind of simplistic, I guess, but I believe that during the campaign of Hillary Clinton, she seized upon linking Donald Trump to Russia as a key to success.

The entire Democrat Party took it on.

They took it on to the extent that they encouraged this war in Ukraine in order to try to create a perception among the American people that

Republicans and Trump were with Russia, and they're against Russia.

It's their simple political ploy that has ended up in this ridiculous war.

But I don't think that anything of great importance is actually going to happen before the election.

There's a lot of saber-ravelling going on right now, but none of these leaders, none of these countries, want to see Donald Trump in the White House.

They like it right now with weak Democrats who won't defend freedom for real anywhere.

They enjoy that.

They don't want to lose that.

And they know that if they do something, that will help Trump.

That will make the American people fearful and make them get out and vote for Trump for security.

They don't want that to happen.

So I don't actually think anything is going to occur for real of significance before the November

election.

Answer is, remember what Jack Kennedy said, never paint the bear, the Russian bear, into a corner.

Issue three.

First person in the world.

I nominate Tim Walls.

I don't know what's worse.

The embellishment of his service record is almost Stalinization of COVID.

Rat out your neighbor in prison.

your population, or perhaps it is simply allowing Minneapolis to burn to the ground during the rioting while your wife said she loved the smell of burning tires in your daughter, arguably tipped off BLM saying daddy ain't sending in the guard.

Who's your worst person in the world?

I'll start with Ceila Murphy and work back ways.

Oh my gosh.

Yes, he is horrible, but once

factor is really kind of entertaining me right now.

You know, I'm a midwesterner and very proud to be one.

I think the people of the midwest are particularly honest and hardworking folks, but the media now is using Tim Walters as being a midwesterner as an excuse for everything.

It's like, oh, he makes us think about picnics and hot dogs and baseball, and like it's an excuse for him from being a flat-out communist.

It doesn't matter if he's a communist, because he's from the Midwest.

I think this is just a laugh riot, and I hope that the American people aren't falling for it.

Yes, it's Midwest grandfather.

Tim Wall looks like a constipated Ed Adler on an LA movie.

I go to you, Kepp Murphy.

Tim Wall ranks up there as one of the worst people around.

I mean, he joined one of the worst women around in Kamala.

It's a marriage made in political heaven or hell.

Political

hell, yes.

Political hell.

But Tim Walsh had his policies are the epitome of a communist socialist who wants to wreck this society and bring down this country.

Yeah, the policies are absolutely horrendous.

Coach Knapp, I go to you, your vantage point.

Yeah, well, Minnesota Governor Tim Walsh, Vice President Harris, his grime mate,

described himself during a fundraising event on Wednesday as the anti-Tommy Tuberville, saying he wanted to show that football coaches are not the dumbest people.

Well, Senator Tuberville is a five-time national coach of the year, seven-time conference champ, so no Tim Walls, you're no coach,

Tuberville.

Coach Lloyd Benson, Tim Walz, pretty good move.

Chip Reedman, I go to you.

The more time passes, the less I think he's going to be a factor.

I think Kamala's just going to create another own problems with her policies, like the latest ones that just came out here overnight about what she wants to do to try and straighten out the economy.

He's just buffoon and she's a cartoon caricature of

of just of a bad politician.

I haven't seen, has there been a debate set between him and Vance?

That's not going to go well for him.

No, but they're still trying to work that out.

Hopefully we will get something there.

Blake Hopping, this Tim Walls, I think, is the single worst VP pick ever in the history of mankind, far worse.

and even Thomas Eagleton and Sergeant Shriver from that 1972 debacle, that you can't remember because you're a youngster, but Blake, give us your

take.

I just wonder how many Democrats have ties to the Chinese because, I mean, with Peter Schweitzer reporting about his extensive trips to China, he has ties to Chinese intelligence, like Joe Biden and other Democrats.

How many do they actually have ties to China?

That's what we need to find out.

Hey, Bernie Sanders did his honeymoon in Moscow.

Tim Walls had his wedding on the Tiananmen Square Massacre, so he would never forget his anniversary.

What does that tell you, Tim Grover?

The worst person in the world is a GOP staffer who just set up, I just saw it on TV, set up a photo op for Trump on grocery store prices and put out refrigerated food out with the regular staples in the middle of summer degree temperatures.

So that has to be the worst person in the world who doesn't even know.

not to set that out in the middle of the hot sun.

Hey, they needed, they needed Chip and Sheila Murphy, uh, Coach Snap on the way out.

I know Coach Snap is leaving us.

Coach Snap, who wore it better, Lauren Bulberge or Anna Paulina Luna?

Hey, you know, after, uh, judiciously studying those photos this morning, uh, Anna Paulina Luna, I leave you with that, my friends.

Don't forget to join us soon on our Kansas City affiliate guys.

He's going to give us some great big 12 Royals and Chiefs wisdom.

Thanks, Coach Knapp for joining in.

So we continue issue four.

Women are the prettiest women and we know that the world is governed by money, the aggressive use of force and hot chicks.

I'm about to head.

To my theater app is Regis 45th reunion where Deborah will once again be voted the youngest looking of all the spouses of our class.

I say the conservative women are better looking, cuter, prettier.

As a matter of fact, I will bear that there is such a thing as global warming because conservative women are

hot

and you have to respect the conservative

Republican women serving in Congress, these wonderful mothers, Anna, Polina, Luna, and Lauren Boebert.

They're rocking those bikinis and not apologizing for it.

I say, go girl, what say you, Tim Grover?

I totally agree with you on that one, John.

In fact, Congressman Boebert just kind of reminded me of the kind of pinstriping I want on my next muscle car that I buy.

That abdominal side

fight tattoo

rocks.

Blake Hopping, what say

you?

a great thing.

They definitely are better looking.

I mean, they're not dyeing the hair wacky colors.

They're shaving their head ball.

They're screaming.

They're anything like you see from leftist women.

So even those mega one pieces look really good.

What's your treatment?

I'm going to stay out of this one

a

little bit.

I have a beautiful wife and she does just fine on all counts and she's got them both beat.

So I'll leave it at that.

The Love and Gracious Deborah gives me an out card.

She says, well, just because you've already ordered doesn't mean you can't look at the menu.

I go to you,

Sheila.

Well, actually, John, underneath it all, there is something legitimate here to discuss.

And you're a beautiful Irish woman, so you can opine.

Go for it.

Thanks.

Well, I think that the most potent cosmetic out there is happiness, and conservative women.

are happy women.

They have a positive, optimistic view of the world, unlike our liberals.

And that's part of what makes them all so beautiful.

Well said, Kip.

Can you top yourself on that one?

No,

I can't.

She nailed it on the head.

All right, guys.

Issue five.

Our state fair is a great state fair.

Is Iowa the greatest state fair in the world?

And why?

What is your favorite aspect of the Iowa State Fair?

I start with you, Sheila Murphy.

What I love about our state fair is the feeling of the people.

I love to go to the state fair and watch people, watch their attitudes, people that are truly enjoying it.

And you see a lot of... I can usually tell how an election is going to go by looking at the people at the state fair.

how they act, how they dress, and how optimistic they are.

If they're having a good time, they're spiced up a little, and they're moving along gingerly, it's going to be a Republican year.

So from what I've seen so far, Trump's doing well.

That sounds great, Sheila.

And Murphy, what say you?

My favorite two attractions ever at the Iowa State Fair were the butter sculptures of William Shatner and Caitlin Clark.

Life doesn't get much better than that.

What say you, Kepp Murphy?

I love the butter sculptures just because they're so unique to our fair.

But I love just going around in the very booths, talking to all the people, the vendors there.

It's fun to see all the stuff and then who can say no to all the great booths there.

I

don't know.

I

have

enough pork chop on a stick.

Where else can you have a pork chop on a stick?

I think it's a patriotic duty to invite in such a culinary favors.

What say you, Chip Riedman?

Well, my apologies being a Nebraska boy.

I've never made it to the Iowa State Fair.

However, I will compliment them on one thing.

If anything is edible at the Iowa State Fair, they'll fry it and make it even better.

So I gotta give them kudos for that.

You know you're Iowa State Fair for someone who allegedly hasn't been there.

Blake Hopping, you're heading there right now.

Are you looking for a future wife among that crowd of scantily clad women under the hot 90 degree Iowa skies?

That'd be nice.

But I think for the Iowa State Fair, I think the best part about it, I like the butter sculptures and everything.

I think they're unique, like it was said, but I think the Iowa State Fair with the decorations, some of the architecture and everything, it seems that it's

has the vibe of Americana that we have lost and that we set the story of lacking that we definitely need to find again.

Tim

Grover,

well

said by Blake.

Tim Grover, you have the final word, our Eastern Iowa beacon of truth.

Well,

our state fair is the great state fair.

No other state fair has had a movie made about it with Pat Boone

in

it.

That's true.

Well said.

Well, guys.

Get over there, there's still time.

I love about Iowa.

They don't start school until after the completion of the State Fair, as it should be as a pro-kill school, St.

Joseph's Kid from Marion, Iowa.

We need to go back to the old days when we walked uphill both ways in the middle of winter and when we didn't start school until after Labor Day and quit before Memorial Day.

Let's go retro again there and issue bonus, bonus issues.

Ironically, it was a year ago when I forged a friendship with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

at the Iowa State Fair, actually before that, but we won first place the state for our radio coverage, large market radio, for that series of interviews.

I was starting to get a little miffed with Bobby yesterday.

I texted him.

There was rumors that he might be trying to wangle a cabinet close by endorsing Kamala Harris.

Bobby immediately texted me back, so that was utterly false.

So his rejoinder to my NeverHarris NeverWalls wasn't that satisfactorily.

Just an inside scoop for all of our listeners.

I want to thank the Magnificent Seven who are part of this roundtable today.

Audience approval for Sheila Murphy, Kip Murphy, Coach Packardy next year.

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And I've got my brother from another mother.

Let's bring up the music because we're going to be talking elections around the world, 80 days left here.

And Pete McRoberts, my brother from another mother, I'm from the right.

Pete's from the left.

But Pete, let's start out here.

It may be something very shocking.

Uh, I am, as you know, are residing in beautiful Kansas near my grandchildren with my lovely life here at the grandmother's bungalow.

Pete, I registered to vote in 1979 as an 18 year old in Iowa, inland County in Marion, Iowa.

I registered as a Republican Pete for 45 years.

I have been a Republican.

Now, we are on August 16th in the year of our Lord, 2024.

I'm going to Kansas Courthouse in Franklin County today to register to vote Pete.

I think I'm going to register as an independent.

Did you hear thunder, lightning?

Are you incredulous?

Do you need smelling salts?

And what are your things going on here?

Well, I did hear, I heard a noise coming from the direction of the Iowa Capitol, which was the collective jaws dropping.

But on my side of the fence, I say, come on in.

Because the more independence people show, the better off we're going to be when at the end of the day our job is to make better voters and make more thoughtful decisions.

And so I'm sure this is a big decision.

But congratulations.

And even if you don't change how you vote, I think that's a good new beginning.

Well, here with Pete McRoberts, Pete, you sometimes have got exasperated with the Democratic side to admit it.

Sometimes we just scratch our heads and then bang our heads against the walls, don't we?

Yeah, and that's the thing that I think, you know, regardless of where you vote, part of our job as voters or even just informed citizens is to bring parties closer to us in the best way that we can, whether that's through a single vote or attending a caucus.

or being a lifelong rabble-rouser, such as you and me.

So, yeah, the exasperation without works is like a body without a soul.

Here with Pete McRoberts, let's veer into the GOP and Democratic vice presidential candidates.

Pete, you've worked for three weeks, and I'm not counting Julia Louis-Dreyfus in that mixture there.

Of course,

I want to make America great and bring back Spiro T Agnew.

Oh, for those, Mr. We can use a man like Spiro T Agnew again if I can break out my Carol O'Connor Irish tenor here.

Pete, what say you handicap the VPICS this time?

So would you like me to go in any particular order or shall I just follow my instincts here?

Just follow your guess.

We get five minutes of rock solid uninterrupted takes here by Pete McRoberts on the beat stakes.

We've had some Republicans on the show today.

Let's balance it out.

Go, McRoberts.

Go.

Great, great.

So I'll do this in order

as they were picked.

I think that the thing we all have to keep in mind is that a vice presidential nominee really rarely influences a vote.

They're not going to carry a state

that the top of the ticket wasn't likely to carry it.

It's just statistical.

Maybe they'll add a point or two in a state the person is going

to

win.

But the selection does show a voter what the thought process of the nominee is.

And I remember this famous story, I don't know if it's true or not, but I remember hearing it.

Somebody asked President Clinton as the nominee, like, well, you're a baby boomer-southerner.

Why did you pick this other baby boomer-southerner?

And Clinton said, in case I die.

And that is exactly how you have to look at this.

So starting with the GOP, I'm not going to hide it.

I think Vance has been underwhelming.

And part of this is an experience.

And I think most charitably, the day he was picked, which would have been the day, two days before the convention, at that time, I believe that that campaign thought that they were unbeatable.

and that the commentary of Trump being a changed man and a unifier and all that stuff.

Everybody knew that was true in terms of what he said, but that selection could have shown something about him that might have added some votes.

I think that inevitability that the campaign thought they had on that Saturday led to picking Vance as more of a...

a magnifying glass of Trump as opposed to something to expand the map.

And

I just, I don't think it's worked.

I think that most charitably on the day of, you would argue that Trump was trying to do an Eisenhower Nixon.

Nixon was only in the Senate for two years and he was elected.

So in other words, six months longer than Vance is now.

I think then that turned into a Nixon Agnew.

And I think we're looking at more like an Agnew Agnew right now.

And the critical thing with Vance is he spent his entire rollout

hitting 10 walls, which strategically makes no sense.

The VP selection is supposed to be the flag jacket for the top of the ticket.

So who cares?

And this is where you're looking at, I think, an immature political operation that's being run by the candidate.

And I wouldn't have... Well, I'm not surprised because I think that campaign is pretty undisciplined.

But if I had been...

a whisper in the Trump campaign's ear, I would have said, pick somebody who shows that the unity is true.

Because nobody's ever going to believe anything Trump says.

And that's built in.

And I don't mean that to be facetious.

But everybody knows the PT Barton piece.

If Trump says it, you know he will take him seriously, not literally.

But that pick, had he picked somebody maybe with an ideological difference, or gosh, after the

After, thankfully, he survived the assassination attempt.

If he would have picked someone more consistent with that unity theme, I think he'd be up right now, would have shown the public something about him.

And a place that Trump is stuck in is he's not able to show the public new things about him.

He's just so much of a known quantity.

So I think he blew it.

That's my interpretation of the

vans.

From a partisan standpoint, I think that was a very reasoned analysis.

That's why we love having you on the show.

You were spockeying in your logic there.

It was not a histrionics at all.

I think you made some very salient points.

Let's go to Tim Walls.

I have not shied away from criticism from Tim Walls because I detested how he handled COVID and I detested how he handled the rioting in the Twin Cities.

But I'm giving you time here to gain fame.

Push back and you've got a big audience.

Go, Pete McRoberts.

It's

very, very interesting.

You mentioned COVID and walls.

One area where you may disagree with Trump, which I'm sure is one of many, is that the former president was very public and very effusive in the way walls handled both the riots and needed this publicly, which I thought was interesting.

I think that the pick of walls

showed us how to get to know Harris.

So using former Vice President Pence's terminology, you know, she was famous, but not well known.

And I think she used this pick correctly, which was to show voters something about her.

So it's not a question of walls as resume anymore than advances, all the walls having been in office, public office for 16 years, clearly has some proficiency, right?

He's got a personality.

One of my colleagues,

for the Iowa people listening, said that Walls reminded him of John Culver's speeches in the 1980 campaign when he knew it wasn't going to be a good year and he just got to say what he wanted.

And to have that glimpse inside Harris' mind, and Vice President Harris, were she showing some joy, a different side of her?

As an unknown candidate, a vice president,

could be so easily pigeonholed.

And so the fact that she selected somebody who really, I think everyone can agree, is a happy warrior.

That's a different type of attack dog.

So Wallace is a conventional choice, but particularly given that Harris is the first woman of color who's leading a ticket, particularly given this is our version of a snap election, I had a different candidate in mind for her to pick.

and watching that rollout, which logistically was flawless, but then how the communication really identified her.

I mean, her favorables have increased significantly since she became the nominee.

People are getting to know her separately from President Biden, which, you know, this is good because now she's not going to have to do her split, you know, like President Bush, the President Reagan, et cetera, et cetera.

She's developing a character of her own.

And right now, people like it.

Now we'll see what happens after the convention.

Mike Murphy uses the phrase, when the sugar high wears off, then what?

We're going to extend Pete McRover.

He's done so well that we're going to do the extra.

And he's going to play a little game here.

Mike Shane, every issue that I bring up, we're going to do McLaughlin round table.

And here's how we're going to do it.

Play up the initial McLaughlin theme here.

And I'm going to call out a year for each issue.

So when I call out a year, you play the issue one, issue two music.

And then I'm going to ask Pete McRoberts on a scale of one to 10, one meeting catastrophically disastrous, 10 meeting the pinnacle of metaphysical, longitudinal excellence, rate these vice presidential picks during my lifetime.

Are you up for this, Pete McRoberts?

Yeah, I am.

And 10 is excellent.

Is that what you're saying?

Yes, I'm going to give you a vice presidential nominee from each party for a year, and then you rate them on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being high, 1 being low.

Are you ready?

Yep, let's do it.

1952!

Richard Nixon,

probably very high.

We'll get the music up.

We'll play two musical bands.

Issue one, 1952.

Kick it in, Mike.

Okay, Nixon

was a good pick for Eisenhower.

He was young.

He was the insurance policy in case Eisenhower had another heart attack in 56.

Short-up conservatives, Nixon did what Eisenhower needed him to do.

Eisenhower needed to show he was a Republican, which he did.

Sparkman from Alabama.

probably didn't tell much about Stevenson because Stevenson was going to get crushed anyway.

Kefauver was interesting because he was an Ivy Leaguer and Stevenson wasn't.

Incidentally, this year is the first time that I can recall in years where the Republican ticket is all Ivy League and the Democratic ticket is all middle class.

Right.

Next week.

I'm sorry, Henry

Cabot Lodge, Jr.

Henry Cabot Lodge was a failure, showed that Nixon was not a real conservative, so to speak, when then Johnson was the last time that a vice president actually carried a state, might have carried those votes in buckets, but he carried them.

10.

Year three, 1964.

The best contribution Willie Miller made was his daughter Stephanie Miller, who I think is hilarious.

And Hubert Humphrey was the original happy warrior.

So I think there are both 10s.

Goldwater knew he was going to get trounced.

So he went with his gut.

And that's the only time you should ever go with your gut when picking a VP.

You're

1968.

Hubert Humphrey picks up on Muskie.

Richard Nixon picks my.

favorite spirochee Agnew.

What say you, Pete McRoberts?

Agnew's tough, and I would say that's probably about a five.

Nixon was not able to answer the question, Agnew, who?

I think that was a mistake.

Not because of subsequent acts, but because of Agnew's lack of fedding.

Everybody in Maryland knew he was, let's just say, not necessarily

He didn't pay taxes on all his income.

Let's put it nicely.

Muskie gave Humphrey a little bit of umph, but not particularly memorable.

Muskie's better years came later.

And just for the record, I will say this, like Frank Sinatra, I'm loyal to Spiro T Agnew here in 1972.

Hi, my least favorite here.

Agnew is about to flip off the ticket when he has to resign.

He's on the ticket, but on the Democratic side, we have the unfortunate situation of Eagleton followed by Sergeant Shriver.

Navigate us, Pete.

Yeah, the 72-pick on the Dem side was the... I mean, the only upside is that created the modern vetting process, and there's nothing wrong with Eagleton.

Getting getting help for his depression, but the fact that nobody knew about it was was very very rough and Of course, you know the Nixon Agnew ticket Won't comfortably but it's the two of them were not close Nixon didn't really need an attack dog by that time He was his own attack dog.

So those are those are flat picks as far as I'm concerned now if we're gonna do VP's

Switching out to VP midstream, I think that the Gerald Ford pick was fantastic for larger reasons.

I actually got to know the Ford operation

rather well.

Now, let's take me right into that.

1976.

You're in 1976.

So 1976

begins in 1970

because remember we went from Agnew to Jerry Ford to Nelson Rockefeller and then

Him, Ford jumping Rocky for Bob Dole, simply four GOP deep or deep nominees within a two-year period.

Yep, and I think the Ford pick was fantastic.

That was, you know, that was a reassurance.

Interestingly enough, though, you know, there's the story, maybe it's true or not, that Nixon was told that Ford was the only person who the House would confirm.

Yeah,

he threw his pen across the room and said, there's the pen I signed your damn Jerry Ford nomination with.

He was PO'd.

He wanted John Connolly.

That's exactly right.

But I think Ford's eight-month tenure ended up in a presidency that was necessary given the difficulty at the time.

Moving over to Rockefeller, I've done some research on that.

Rockefeller, I feel bad.

He said he never wanted to be number two of anything.

And he would go on to say that his most senior achievement as vice president was redesigning the vice presidential seal.

But by all accounts, the Ford and Rockefeller relationship was pretty good.

What I will say, and of course you're in Kansas, and I respect Senator Dole considerably, I will say that Ford subsequently said that dumping Rocky in favor of Dole was the one moment of political cowardice that he had in his career.

and that he regretted it, even though... Not

only that, Bob Dole was a bad-beat candidate that year.

He did poorly in debates.

He came off as surly and growly.

Mondale, I think, came off much better.

One thing I'll say about Nelson Rockefeller, he went out on top.

Yes, he did, yeah.

Not a very happy day.

Oh, oh, oh.

Do you know what I did there?

You're very naughty.

I don't think really wanted to put George H. Selby Bush on the ticket, but Reagan was a smart man and he saw people like James Baker with the Bush team and thought, you know, one thing you can say about Reagan, he did like to surround himself with, uh, with, with smart people in the room.

And of course, uh, in 1980, we do have, uh, you know, uh, Jimmy Carter staying with Mondale.

Yep,

and I mean this is to the earlier point the vice presidential pick shows the public how a presidential nominee thinks and so I think the pick the selection of Bush was it was really smart on Reagan's point You know Reagan was not a caricature.

He wrote his columns every week.

He knew he knew exactly where he was at Yeah, and he also knew that that he had to send a message not just to the conservatives, but everybody else and and And the you know the interesting thing about the Bush pick

is, you know, that rivalry between the Bushes and the Reagan's through the campaign starting in Iowa or Bush one, you know, for

Reagan to

bring in Baker as his chief was indicative of somebody who's pretty confident in their own abilities and also wants to, wants to, wants to expand the tent.

And he did.

I mean, politically and government.

So wouldn't have voted for him, but, but looking back at it, you can see that this was not an accidental.

a set of circumstances.

That was a management and leadership ideology, right?

Yeah, and I think it was flawless.

And thank goodness Nancy agreed, because if she didn't, they wouldn't have been picked.

1984, our final segment will be part two next week, but 1984, and it wasn't Orwellian, it was the year of the LA Olympics.

Again, Ronald Reagan with Bush, and this time Walter Mondale assumes the mantle and chooses Geraldine Ferraro.

Not a great pick, but what could you do to tell the public more about Mondale and no VP pick was ever going to influence that election?

This is another thing not dissimilar to Eagleton where the vetting process was not what it would be today and it caused an unforced error with respect to Fraro's husband's finances and so forth.

So that was a teachable moment and it probably won't be repeated.

Well, we've covered deep picks for the first third of my life, Pete McRoberts.

We're going to do these additional two segments with you because you are the king of the deep stakes.

Pete McRoberts joining us again today and the studio audience on their feet for his very good takes on both current and past Vice Presidential Candidates.

Pete, we love having you on this magnificent blowtorch, kick, yell, caroming through all the big tenon.

Wait until football season starts.

The audience will even be huge.

Well, thank you, John.

This is my pleasure.

John Jacobson here back with the great Dr. Ted Fogarty, Edward Fogarty Cares Grant Award winner for his pioneering work.

not only in the nation, but in the world with hyperbaric curative therapy and glutathione precursors.

Dr. Fogarty, guys, he was saving all of his patients during COVID.

They weren't even going to the hospital.

He had the protocol and he is one of those champions of medical freedom.

He's been on the show frequently with our cohorts, Dr. David Hartclutch and Joe Casserino.

Ted, can you give us an update right in the thick of things here?

in election season, a 90-day sprint, the medical freedom issue, even Clay and Buck say they are terrified of a redo of COVID.

They want accountability for the COVID debacle under the Biden administration.

Ted, are you optimistic that we're going to make progress this cycle?

Well, yes and no.

if the uh... continued fraudulent activities of certain politicals with the uh... world health organization bill gates and the current administration uh... continue uh... i think we're we're in for a another bad run here uh... you know uh... bobby kennedy junior personal friend of mine and i'm the elector for him should he win any of the uh...

any of

the precinct out of the third congressional district of nebraska

He's a prime example of just how malignant our entire political and social apparatus is towards people getting the truth out about the bio-weaponry, the bio-weaponry that's going on.

And I've been working with the Kennedy campaign, but also Bobby Kennedy's got a huge network of some of the top scientists and physicians and attorneys around the country.

And just look at the medical freedom, freedom of speech, suppression that's going on here.

You and Bobby were right at every step of the game here, as were we in the Iowa legislature, that minor band of us that were correct at every turn.

And we see the Harris administration doubling down with the choice of Tim Walls probably could not have been a worse medical freedom vice presidential candidate.

on planet earth and tim wall better lead to the point of the trip over the

well you know he is from nebraska originally but but but but he has he's from nebraska he had some time uh... it's not on the whole family homestead uh... pawns up in butte nebraska and uh... i went to high school one of his cousins at all my central and uh... yeah there's some serious issues with uh... with uh...

an unelected, you know, I mean, look at, look at, look at Harris's career.

I mean, she, she, she never got any votes in the primary for the Democrats.

And

now she sends through this, uh, uh, as Trump said, even the last several days.

it was Joe Biden's decision to make, and

there's

nothing democratic or constitutional about what's going on in the Democratic Party.

Absolutely true.

Yeah, it's hauntingly.

They get Harris at the top, and then, you know, Walt's has got a lot of problems.

I think a lot of people are freaking that out right now.

Well,

part of the problems with

Tim Walls is that when his wife says she loves the smell of burning tires during the Twin Cities riots, and when his daughter allegedly tips off BLM, that her dad's not going to deploy the guard.

These are all terribly problematic at the same time that Kamala is helping with the get out of jail efforts for those that were burning and looting the Twin Cities.

obviously if public safety is a concern uh... here's the walls are very problematic

and if you if you look at this uh... going back into uh... my history in north dakota and in the uh... and during the pandemic and i started getting together with uh... uh... doctor scott jenton who was uh... minnesota senator at that time and and and and now let's let's look forward to the kind of

scoleduggery that happened with scott jensen doctor scott jensen running for governor of minnesota who nearly won if there weren't some third-party candidates drawn off of their and then you know there's probably some corrupt ballot you know racketeering in the ballot and that kind of stuff but scott jensen was pursued by the minnesota attorney general his license was threatened every single month of his his curatorial campaign and uh... if you just look at how quickly people are

i mean here's here's a guy here's a minnesota doctor who is who saved more lives than any of those folks you know in the grid basically bowing down to tony fauchy mandates of of remdesivir and and and waiting around for these vaccines when we have the north dakota care that grant uh... hyperbaric and and uh... with the final meal at the precursor systems and and i'm telling you john

Spiralina, everybody listening to me, please go out and stock up on Spiralina.

It is mother nature, God's best, greatest supplement.

And people around the world in ICU's are being given Spiralina.

And at Tehran University, there was a study on ICU patients who got high dose Spiralina.

and it kept them alive in the ICU.

50 people on each arm of this study, standard of care, without spirulina, they lost 15% of those ICU patients.

The other 50 people in this study, nobody died.

Everybody walked out of the ICU.

And that was published in Frontiers in Immunology a month before my most recent publication with Dr. Hartstown at LSU

on

reversing dementia in the family home.

And those very protocols that I reverse dementia with in the family home in Colorado got wound into the North Dakota CARES Act protocols for not just this last pandemic, all pandemics, because that's the truth of the matter.

There's no virus that can handle hyperbaric oxygen.

And no virus can replicate itself in a high-glutathione intracellular environment.

And that's exactly what Dr. Crum

taught me and put me in the Central Hall of Fame for right on top of Henry Fonda, because it's alphabetical.

But yeah, you look at this whole Minnesota debacle with Scott Jensen, and you look at how much corruption there is in the Democratic Party.

I just don't see how anyone in Iowa are listening to the sounds of our voices can fathom voting for these two.

I agree with you.

We're here with a great Dr. Ted Fogarty.

I think he's America's premier physician of curative medicine, winner of the CARES grant, pioneer

in

hyperbaric therapy, as well as lutefion precursors.

You're listening to him on America's original blowtorch KXEL 1540, charming to all the big 10 states.

Guy's football just a couple of weeks away.

College football.

Dr. Ted Fogarty, talk about...

We got two minutes left, proimmune formulation 200.

Yeah,

so my dear mentor, Dr. Albert B. Crum, class of 49, Omaha Central, who's still the medical advisor to the Dalai Lama, and the Dalai Lama takes proimmune, too.

He went on this mission after he finished being one of the top forensic psychiatrists for our nation.

uh... uh... at the turn of the century he went on the mission to to develop this product from you in the new formulation two hundred which you can get at the best immune support dot com and yet he had he had gone through

the the greatest intellectual property illegal teams in the country and gotten patents all over the world for all sorts of various indications uh... uh... uh... uh... for good without amino acid supplement supplementation but the most important in the pandemic era is that on february nineteenth of twenty twenty he got patent rights and claims out of canada

for the anti-viral nature of his product from the new formulation two hundred

and

it's every rnav pandemic virus listed in in the book uh... and that's all in those patents in canada and i took all those patents and brought him into the north dakota state house and and show him to the ad commissioner up in north dakota i said look this stuff is all natural it's just three amino acid to the trinity of me amino acid that form glutathione

and we can put this together with b-root powder and some spirulina and we can go out and save lives and take the money out of the Carezac fund uh... those in competition with two major biotech companies based out of fargo with ties to germany for and so yeah so it's the little it's a little fifty thousand dollar grant that could and and a big part of that grant was for communications which god bless you john jacobson it is your low torch that has saved more lives off of the kit kxl

1540 towers than anybody else through just hearing the words of the Trinity of these amino acids.

It's just phenomenal when you think about it.

There's literally, we've got our stalwart, Dr. Hartzuch, former Iowa Senator, ran for Congress in District 1.

He has taken all of the stuff that I've taught him and he is running it to the ninth and doing some of the most incredible and creative work with his patients and hyperbaric air therapy and We've just we've got something that is going to be in the future look back upon as the answer the

literal answer to the

amplification of all all good things in medicine

and health through naturopathic processes, and that's just how it all works.

It's basically mitochondrial medicine as applied to physics and immunology.

As we

build this network, you'll see the great Dr. Edward Fogarty, who's on fire today as he's often on fire on KFYR up north, as we are caroming across all the big 10 states here

on KXTL.

I am physically at KOFO as we continue to build out this network of saving lives to these wonderful physicians of conscience.

I'm at KOFO in the excerpts of Kansas City.

We're doing the Royals and Jeff Stein is thrilled that we're all coordinating together.

Ted Fogarty, you are a hero.

So is the tip of the hat to David Harcich, who we've had on the show so much.

David is a brilliant diagnostician in his own right.

He's got a big lawsuit that we're hoping for some good.

I'm going to give you the last word here with our 15 minutes with Dr. Edward Fogarty, Omaha native, Omaha Central High Hall of Fame.

I was at that induction.

It was an epic evening.

Give us just a quick portend of what HeartSuch is doing and do you think we might

be shaking things up in the American legal system with a case here that the Iowa Supreme Court's looking at, Dr. Fogarty?

Yeah, so Dr. Hart, such as suing both the Iowa Board of Medicine and the Iowa Board of Pharmacy, he's been through the lower courts and now it's gotten into the Iowa Supreme Court realm, and he has these airtight arguments that I don't think any judge worth their soul can look at and turn their eye away from.

But basically, the Iowa Board of Medicine colluded with the Iowa Board of Pharmacy to restrict the free speech rights of all Iowa citizens.

And this is also, I'm sure, has happened in Kansas and some other states, too.

Dr.

Forty, you did some interesting analytics with Dr. Hartzich.

Nebraska encouraged physicians to do what it took to cure during COVID.

And lives were saved in Nebraska.

I'll give you the final word as we do the outro here.

Yeah, Hartzich and I looked at the numbers through 2021.

And there's 2,600 more deaths in Iowa, a fairly similar demographic between the two states than what we had in Nebraska.

And we're chalking that up to

The freedom of practice that was basically affirmed by the Nebraska Attorney General at the time, Doug Peterson, having a 44-page brief stating that it is perfectly ethical under the Hippocratic oath for Nebraska officials, positions to be writing prescriptions for ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

And literally the month that that came out, I started writing prescriptions to Iowa legislators and attorneys and as many folks in Iowa that I could.

from out of some Omaha friendly pharmacies

and

ship the so-called rogue horse base across state lines to save lives.

By the way, if we do get into another crisis here, everybody in rural counties in America, if you've got the horse base, I've actually used this clinically and it's actually worked a little better than the oral ivermectin.

Take a whole tube of horse base and rub it on the level on the back if they have COVID or another.

pandemic infection in their lungs,

and it

literally works overnight, along with the spirulina and the bromine.

Amazing, ladies and gentlemen, amazing.

Dr. Edward Fogarty cares a word, Grant Winter, one of the heroic doctors of conscience.

Dr. Senefreit, a great run with you here this morning.

We will be back with you again next week as we're going to start to hit this hard with this 90-day sprint left in the election cycle.

Dr. Edward Fogarty, ladies and gentlemen, MD.

Always great to be with you, Doc.

Safe travels.

We will talk to you in a week, my friend.

Sounds great, John.

God bless you.

Oh, John Jacobson back with you on this beautiful Saturday on KXCL, the Jacobson Group, America's original 50,000 watt blowtorch, charming throughout all the Big Ten, and especially in eastern Iowa.

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Curtis just made a brilliant point.

You got to look at how much interest you're paying in a dollar amount, not just at the interest rate.

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