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Hey, we're bringing the band back together.

We got the a team reassembled today Jacobson here John Jacobson on the Jacobson Group on KXEL the 50,000 watt blowtorch 80 years of excellence the first in the Western Hemisphere to go 50,000 watt clear channel and we keep speaking truth to power here with co-host Scott Corey back in studio the crowd on their feet they love having

Scott back after successful agribusiness combining operation this year.

Mike Shane, the wise sage.

That's a serious ringtone.

Scott Corey and our special guest, Tim Grover here as we emanate, we care him from 1540 AM, 100.5 FM, Wadalu Cedar Rapids in 20 states across the fruited plain.

You know, it's a quiet day, Scott, here in Iowa City, but we need quiet because I'll say it to quote the late great Bob Hogue from the Iowa Television Network circa 1980 after an infamous Iowa basketball game under our then great head coach, Lute Olson, take away from us

on a very bad call at the end of the game.

This game stolen from Iowa.

Grover, I'm not mincing words.

That was a BS call that never would have been called against USC Notre Dame.

Nobody.

A phantom call, not even called on the field.

It was through this vetting in the upstairs box.

They had mission creep.

They went beyond to see if he went out of bounds.

To stealing a win from Iowa You know I've had my problems with the Big 10 Scott I go back to Commissioner Warren who's now moved on to destroy the Chicago Bears after almost destroying the Big 10 It's a nice consolation prize if you don't get a federal judgeship, but this was a guy Warren who back in the day Didn't want to play football during the COVID year even though his son was playing football

for his school down in the southeast, even though he's all the modern of the very woke Notre Dame University, as woke as you can get.

And he didn't want the Big Ten to play ball.

And I just noticed, thank goodness for Iowa and Nebraska and Ohio State, who you can't touch.

But Scott, that call was outrageous.

And to think they could call that with impunity in Iowa City and basically rob 75,000 fans,

That was a touchdown for the ages.

That was a Heisman touchdown that Cooper Dijine has been robbed of.

It's a victory that Iwa was robbed of.

Yes, the offense was terrible.

12 yards, second half shouldn't have come down to that.

But you know what?

If the game is rigged, it's time to

I'm canceling my big 10 network subscription Scott.

Yeah, there was so much done pack what happened Saturday at Kinect Stadium You know there's we can talk a lot about what PJ Fleck did and unfortunately he he admitted he's sleeping with Floyd the Rosedale after returning to Minneapolis is such a born loser.

He's just a goon But you get back to what happened on the field

Tim O'Day He is one of the officials during this game.

This individual from the Big 10 officiating crew has a history against Iowa last year up in Minneapolis Jack Campbell the buckets award-winning linebacker had to pick six against the bar against Minnesota And it was Tim O'Day They called him out of bounds when it was very clear that he was not out of bounds you fast forward one year there was Tim O'Day officiating crew that came up with the egregious

You know punt return call as well as the the violent so-called unsportsmanlike hit that was that took place there was his crown was never yes

I believe mr. O'Day was part of quite

a mess going back to 2016.

He was, he was in the big 12.

They actually had to suspend him for several games and he is no longer a part of the big 12 officiating crew.

Well, but showing the big 10, that's quality,

you know,

that's, that's, that's quality big 10.

And Scott, I'm going to say it right now.

Blue states hate red states.

This is just another way to stick it to Iowa.

Iowa state, you know, as much as we give our Iowa state,

Fans grief Iowa State has gotten job done more calls than anybody in history They've never gotten a call and frankly if you watch that volleyball match the other night Both the announcing team and the refs hated the Husker women Tim Grover.

What's going on here?

Well, it's rather obvious we've invested ourselves and

submitting ourselves to a centralized authority that's run by the by elite.

Yes.

And that seemed to know what's best for us.

This is a reflection on Iowa.

Nice.

Yes.

Oh, to ring the bell, Mike Shane, this guy is hitting it out of the park here today.

We got to get some bell ringing going for this guy here.

Keep it up here, Mr. Mr. Grover.

They know, the people at eight flyover country, especially Iowa, they know that that islands is so nice that they'll put up with this.

But I got news for them.

We're not going to put up with this anymore because it's infesting our entire country.

It's spoiled our free time that these elitists want to stop and tell us what to do all the time.

And it's just, it's terrible.

Poor Cooper Dijon got robbed.

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah, he did.

And frankly, I'll call right now for the permanent firing of Mr. O'Day.

And also if Mr. Petiti can't do a better job as commissioner, then he needs to go and find a franchise.

like the Bears to ruin like Mr. Warren is having success at Scott.

Well there's a lot to be looked into too and I made the comment on social media the other day that the DCI department of you know they do the criminal investigation of the state of Iowa.

They were hot and heavy this summer going after players at the University of Iowa as well as Iowa State for online gambling.

I think they need to open an investigation on what took place in that officiating crew because obviously

There was something going on there.

These were just not bad calls, judgment calls.

This was outright theft of a game.

How

many times did we cross the plane of the goal line on our first touchdown that was not called as a touchdown?

When clearly from video evidence, you could see our guys were a foot or two across the plane and they couldn't make that touchdown call.

Yep.

And the thing that really irritated me, infuriated me the most is, Coupre-Digine is an outstanding individual.

You know, I'll be the first to admit.

He was from my high school back when I was in high school.

It was just Battle Creek kind of Grove.

Now it's Battle Creek kind of Grove Odebald Arthur.

He's from Odebald area.

I don't know his family personally.

I know friends that know his family back home just a truly outstanding individual and what was so infuriating to me and this falls on coach Kirk Farrance.

Cooper Dejean stood up there after the game in front of God.

God in media and explained what happened.

Coach Ference broke from tradition and no longer allowed Brian, Phil Parker, as well as the Warwoods, the top three coordinators to meet with the media during the bi-week.

This has always happened in recent history during the bi-weeks in Iowa.

And for Brian to be not allowed to be questioned for this anemic offense, anemic is being generous.

If we weren't on the radio.

Anemic, anemic Scotty.

I'm older than you.

The Hawkeyes are circa 1971 were 0 and 11 under Frank Lodderberg.

Tim Grover remembers that horrible year.

That offense was better than this offense.

We are a membrane away, a Phil Parker membrane away from being an 0

and 11 football team.

Absolutely.

And so for Brian to cower, it's very interesting.

During this week, I've talked to a few folks at the University of Iowa that are connected to the program.

Let's just say the silence is deafening out there.

And I found it very interesting on Friday morning that the head men's soccer coach program at Iowa, David Dylan, tweeted out this tweet on Friday morning.

this time of year where coaches lose their jobs.

Families are uprooted as part of it.

Not all situations are the same, but a reminder that coaches are more than just that.

He goes on to explain a few other things.

I found it very interesting that a head soccer coach at the University of Iowa makes a tweet like that.

Tweets just don't happen overnight, John.

We know that this is going on.

President Wilson has been very quiet.

Interim Athletic Director Beth Getz has been very quiet.

There's something going on in Iowa City.

I can't quite connect the dots publicly, but there's something going on.

I'll connect some dots Tim Grover It's obvious coach Kirk ferrants is not gonna jettison his son the performance of the son is an Epic failure were the worst ranked offense in the nation if coach ferrants will not

Jettison Brian then coach Ferenc needs right off in the sunset and I At this point I could see the Hawkeyes losing out.

I'm grateful that they're bold eligible, but this is This is a defensive membrane Tim Grover away from being an 0 and 11 team We cannot go through the type of rebuild that even Kirk had to go through after Hayden Fry's last three and eight year It's time to make a move Tim Grover

Yes.

In fact, it's Friday.

We've had a week off.

I can't imagine something.

Why hasn't something been done already?

As long as we're talking Minnesota, I want to point out our buddy coach Patrick J. Nass down there in the Mexico State.

They've got former Minnesota coach Jerry Kill down there in their football program.

I've watched a couple games with them so far.

They've got a dynamite quarterback named Diego Pavia up there.

And they've got wide receivers that can run all over the place.

And listen to these stats, guys.

They are leading the nation in yards gained before the defense touches you at 3.2 yards of play.

Before the defense even touches you.

They've

got 16 plays of 40 yards plus.

I watched that.

Scott, what's that?

They've got 16 of them.

I watched them.

against Louisiana Tech because they were on Tuesday night and I DVR'd it.

And the second half, they're down 16 to 10.

They get the ball coming out of the locker room.

They go on a nine-minute drive, just going to go ahead and touch that.

Wow.

Then they exchange touchdowns with Louisiana Tech, the rest of the quarter.

So they get to the fourth quarter.

And they go on, I think it was like a six or seven drive to score a field goal to win the game.

And they still had some time left.

And during that, during that drive, they had two running plays of over 30 yards.

I mean, it's just, I don't know why Brian can't at least be demoted.

You don't have to put him on the street, give him a different job.

But we can't even seem to get that accomplished.

It's just,

Just dumbing.

I mean, New Mexico State even has a Michigan transfer, it's defensive back.

They got a Michigan transfer all the way down there.

So what is going on?

Scotty, this is...

I'm afraid the wheels are going to come off if this office can't be more productive.

What games are winnable left?

Well, that's very concerning.

We have the big game next Saturday at Wrigley Field against Northwestern.

We have Illinois at home for senior day.

And then we have the final game, Black Friday in Memorial Stadium against Lincoln.

So it's going to be very challenging.

And then, you know, moving forward, this isn't just about this year.

It's about next year.

Who's going to come to Iowa for office?

That's the problem.

What kind of recruiter are you going to?

to play receiver, or line, or running back,

or

quarterback.

And so it's going to be very interesting to make that sell.

And one of the important quotes I think Iowa fans are really glomming onto right now is very infuriating too.

And this is from Urban Meyer.

He's on the Big Ten Network now, National Championship caliber coach at Ohio State and Florida.

He was talking about Iowa about two weeks ago, the Big Ten Network.

And he said,

Phil Parker's defense is a national championship caliber defense and it is being squandered and wasted because of Brian Farance.

Are we

131 out of 131 right now?

I wouldn't be surprised.

It could be even worse than that.

I mean, if they could have going forward, I just don't know how we how we do this.

And so Shane is

laughing.

I just want our people to know that Shane's off my curve, but he is.

He's chocolate.

He's kind of.

shaking with laughter right now.

And so moving forward though this is gonna be the big sell and let's not forget the Big Ten West is done at the end of this year which means we have four new schools joining the conference with the new pod system moving forward and the protected rivalries.

This is a new era for the Big Ten as well as for the University of Iowa and Iowa has to get it right.

We are not in Ohio State.

We do not reload every year.

There's

no margin for error

here.

Exactly and so

We need to be looking forward and I think it's very interesting too that somebody pointed this out to me that I'd forgotten about and they did it on purpose after we got done the conversation

because

that's how they act around me.

When Beth Getz was at Minnesota as the Interim Athletic Director, what did she do?

She got rid of the football coach.

She is now the Interim Athletic Director at the University of Iowa.

She's been very quiet lately.

I know there are very prominent donors that are not happy.

The president's box after the game on Saturday was a nuclear wasteland, as it was told to me.

Now that is a fascinating

comment,

Mr. Scott.

And so moving forward, I do believe now more than ever, there will be a change in January.

It has to happen,

guys.

We need to be pulling out.

Yeah, yeah, I get with a by week.

You're right, Tim.

Yeah, you're going to end up seven and five if we don't get Brian out of the whole six and

seven,

six and

seven.

Give him another job.

You know,

yeah,

I just have over the sidelines last week.

I mean, I saw her as much as I saw her on the TV.

Look, if you're 60 plus years old,

All 60 plus year old Hawkeye fans are having PTSD right now, looking at a Frank Lauterbauer offense on the field and I'm telling you, I think I almost need therapy.

Just going back to that flash in the memory pen and long-term memory that cannot be erased without electroshock therapy, I think.

John

Jacob.

If I can add real quick.

Yeah, Tim.

Mac and I are put something out about, I'm looking forward to even back in Iowa City in 2024.

Now, if he's gone, if he leaves.

Oh, that's interesting.

Well, fascinating, fascinating, guys.

I got friends that love Kirk there afraid of the controversy.

But why do you write that?

You know, I'm looking, why don't you say like, you know, it really sounded like he's left campus.

You know, all I will say, Scott, is timing is everything in life.

You always got to leave.

with them wanting more and if you sense that you're going to be run out of town with pitchforks it's best to grab the the drum major cap and a baton and move to the head of the line and make it look like they're giving a parade in your honor as you leave and you know they say all political

Careers and in failure Scott all I will say is against all odds I ended up 6-0.

I don't think I want to test fate too much and Everyone always stays too long or goes back for one too many one last campaign and they always end up like Napoleon it ain't good

You know that's a very good point too and you know back home We were harvesting this week finishing up and I was talking with somebody at the local co-op and he made the comment too about what's going on at Iowa and

And he made the comment that I thought was very telling is that it reminded him of a farmer that just passed his prime.

His kid is not ready to take over the operation and he's staying too long and he's running the operation into the ground.

And so moving forward, I think that's where we're at.

Don't get me wrong, Kurt Farrance has done so many great things at the University of Iowa.

But at the end of the day, college sports and college football is a business.

And the shareholders, the fans and the donors and the student athletes all have a vested interest in this program.

Unfortunately, it's been a family interest to the

detriment

of the...

the beneficiaries for whom you're a custodian.

You have a fiduciary duty to do the right thing.

Absolutely.

And so I think there's going to be a lot of pressure building.

But as somebody told me that was very instrumental in the retirement in quotes,

you know people, Scott, you know people.

Yeah,

right.

That, you know,

When Gary Barda announced his retirement in August, we were following up on a conversation we had this week and that person said to me, the plan is the plan and the plan is still in place.

And so that is all I needed to hear.

I think everybody knows where we're at on this.

the best thing we can do now is hopefully get a few more wins try to win the Big 10 West it is still very winnable but there is no confidence right now in the offense and there is a serious divide in Iowa City and unfortunately Kirk has allowed Brian to taint his legacy moving forward

stay tuned guys this station and this program is where you hear this honest talk this free speech that you're not going to hear

anywhere else.

Stay tuned, Trey Critelli.

We won't be fooled again.

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Scott, Mike, this is a huge day for us

here.

on the Jacobson Group at KXEL, that 50,000 watt clear channel blow torch, caraming all through eastern Iowa and 20 states between the Rockies and the Alleghenies.

And we are here with our favorite, favorite matriarch of Iowa Commerce, Barbara Hames Bryant.

And we have a very special guest with us.

Without further ado,

Barbara, we kick it over to you.

Welcome morning, John, Mike, and Scott.

I have somebody special I'd like to introduce you to today.

It is my nephew, Curtis Haynes, before.

And if that name sounds familiar, it's because he was named after his grandpa, Curt Haynes, who you know very well and have known for years.

Oh,

this is very exciting.

And what a tremendously named young man.

Curtis, welcome to program.

Our studio audience welcomes you, my friend.

Good morning.

Thank you for having

me.

Curtis, I remember your grandfather so well, such a great man, a civic leader without peer, a patriot, and someone who I've got to say,

encouraged me.

I was really appreciative of his sage fatherly encouragement, you know, in the New Testament of our Bible.

One of the early disciples after the resurrection who came into prominence was Barnabas.

He was always around but he came into prominence later.

Barnabas means son of encouragement and

Your grandfather was a man that encouraged many of us to follow our calling into elective office and political life.

So I am delighted that you are a male continuation of this great family legacy, Curtis.

It's really great to visit with you.

I appreciate that.

Thank you for the kind words about Grandpa.

He definitely

did not mince words and made it very clear his expectations and goals for all of us and we learned a lot whether we wanted to or not sometimes.

I've been lucky enough to have a son of my own.

Troy Curtis Haynes the fifth.

So the legacy lives on in my son Tucker as well.

Oh, that's wonderful.

Congratulations to you.

I'm going to ask you to reveal a proprietary secret on the radio, which I probably shouldn't do, but can you describe for us how your aunt, how Barbara, stays so youthful looking and

young?

Don't know the answer.

Very, very good genes, I think.

I

think

so.

Very good chair of herself.

Lots of rest.

Lots of water.

Lots of sleep here.

Good physical fitness as taught to us by grandpa Kurt.

Well, I think those are all keys.

I think too, Scott, don't you?

It's that clean conscience from providing safe, beautiful, affordable homes.

for American families, I cannot think of a greater calling than to facilitate a home and hearth for a family.

It's got to be one of the great callings of our natural life.

And she and her family have been facilitating this for half a century.

You know, absolutely.

And I know as we are approaching

We got the Thanksgiving, Halloween, and Christmas right around the corner.

Barbara and Curtis, are there any special projects going on?

I know you had the food bank in the past.

Are you guys doing the same thing this year as well?

Yes, we sure are.

We have a food bank that's open every Tuesday and Wednesday at 100 Haines Street, Southwest, which is on Wilson Avenue, Southwest, between Wiley and West Coast Road.

It's open to the public.

It's open from 10 to 4.15 on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

There's no eligibility requirement.

If you're hungry, you need something.

I'm going to get it.

We're here with Barbara Hames Bryant and Curtis Hames IV from Hames Homes, the Homes people.

Curtis, I remember watching the family's first television commercials that go back over

half a century ago.

And now in this present day and age, as you carry the torch forward, you know, about that time, I started working at drug town in Marion, Iowa.

It was division of high V and my wife to this day always says, John, when you leave banking, what would you do?

Would you want to go back into politics?

Would you want to practice law?

Your law licenses are still rolling.

Do you want to branch out more in radio?

And I always tell her, believe it or not, I love retail.

I love sales more than anything.

I would go back to that.

Curtis, you're a sales guy.

You've got the bug.

You love it too.

Don't you?

I do.

I do.

We had you.

John, you mentioned our old commercials.

One of our most fun ads that we had on TV was.

when interest rates were high as a kite.

So we had a good laugh about seeing a kite flying in the sky.

Unfortunately, those interest rates are getting close to high as a kite rate.

So we're excited to provide affordable homes, keep the cost low, keep people's taxes low, insurance low, keep the whole big picture of housing affordable for everyone.

Yes, and I think that the manufactured homes are filling an incredibly needed gap right now, Curtis, because with interest rates on what would have been a $300,000 home three years ago at maybe 2%, over a 30-year amortized lifetime of that loan, a family might have paid $100,000 in interest.

now with mortgage rates approaching eight percent that three hundred thousand dollar home is going to cost seven hundred fifty thousand dollars people simply can't afford that but voila you are there with spacious spacious homes again very affordable they're safe they're they're derecho proof and to make matters even better you've got them in these

neighborhoods that are manicured, aesthetically pleasing, have great security, and are very much communities from dog parks to frisbee golf to the the vaunted pantries.

Absolutely.

We are very proud of our planned, safe, clean communities, but really what we want to focus on

is providing an affordable option and pairing good people with the right financing options.

And you mentioned all of that interest that people pay.

Nobody's a hero for paying extra interest to a bank.

And no matter what type of loan you get, the math is always undefeated.

Having something clean, safe, affordable, pay less interest, affordable across the board, the aims way.

Scott, I'm excited to have this millennial.

You know, we've been bringing on the

Ethan Slavens and we've been bringing on the Luke Steras and we've been bringing on the Kyle Savages and and just recently Trey Crotelli.

This is awesome to have a millennial who's going to rotate into our regular lineup here and give us this great commercial update every week of homes in eastern Iowa.

You know, absolutely, John.

And Curtis talked to us real quickly.

I know we are approaching the winter months.

What type of inventories do you have available?

And if people want to tour online, is there a website they can go to?

Or can they schedule something to do that in person?

We love pointing people towards our website.

We have a cad lack of a website at HainesHomes.com.

That'll have a lot of great information about our community.

The history of our brand and our family.

and we'll have all the inventory that we have.

Right now, we have a home for many different lifestyles and different price points.

Our entry level homes, 1200 square foot, homes with garages, new double sectional, big homes with garages, everything in between.

Guys, I'm just going to do my outro here, Scott, and ask this question.

Curtis Haymes, the fourth, you're stepping into more of a prominent role with us.

Is that because Barbara may be hitting the road to make a run for governor or US

Senate or US Congress?

Well, actually, John, I had breaking news to my phone here during the show that as we were talking about what's going on in Iowa City, that Barbara might be the new offensive

coordinator at

Iowa.

Guys, this is a joy.

Curtis, we're going to look forward.

Kurt to talking with you many many more times and Barbara still our cords tethered to you you folks are what's best about Iowa nice these people are have a Christian worldview they treat people fairly and again what higher calling than affordable safe beautiful housing not just housing hearth and home Barbara and Kurt

Congratulations.

Keep the faith.

We are proud to be with you here on the Blowtorch KXEL.

Thank you guys.

Thank you.

We'll talk to you again next week.

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Oh, Daltry in Townsend.

Scott, are we going to get fooled again or fooled at all by AI artificial intelligence?

Well, we're going to find out because back for part two of our excursion into AI with

Trey Cratelli, and you know Mike Shane, we had to pick that song because Trey comes from a great Cratelli lineage.

His father, Nicholas Cratelli, first American barrister in 150 years.

Trey's son, Ian, has been on our show as our collegiate, intrepid reporter, debuting with the atmospheric balloon.

out of St.

Teresa's in Des Moines in conjunction with the U.S.

Coast Guard Auxiliary.

So, Trey Crotelli, if you're the new Crotelli boss, are you the same as the old boss?

We were playing the who is your lead in here, buddy.

Hey, I appreciate it.

It's a great song and it's a great tie into what we're going to talk about today.

It is.

Our official personality.

Hey, Trey, before we delve into this, so I'm doing show prep last night.

Well, it's kind of a weak alibi.

I was reading about the Beatles and Paul McCartney talking about how they remixed this last ever Beatles song.

You know, Yoko actually did something good.

She found a tape of John, circa 1978, a couple years before John's death.

He had cut a song.

It was on some cassette that she had and John was on the piano.

He was singing.

There was a lot of interference and background noise.

And there's also a riff that George Harrison did that works with that.

That was an independent riff.

Of course, Ringo and Paul are still living.

And what they've done is now Paul described it as AI.

But basically what happened was they were able to separate out these tracks in a very sophisticated

motion to where Lennon's vocals have been isolated and improved, albeit not with fake John Lennon vocals, but the last ever Beatles song.

They said this is the last one.

They don't have any more original tracks that they haven't found, but they have mixed in Paul and Ringo with new stuff, with Harrison's guitar riff,

They've interwoven it with John's vocals, which was there was actually doing that type thing there in the 60s and 70s.

So Trey, we've got a new Beatles song, basically 53 years after the band broke up.

Amazing.

So this was this true AI that they're using there or not so much?

You

know, it depends on how you define AI.

That's why

this is a

perfect launching point.

Go, baby.

Yeah, so AI really encompasses a lot of different things.

The artificial intelligence that is something that's sort of working on its own or calling upon information that it has at its reserves versus maybe what's called an algorithm, which is a program that will run a certain way and it gets a certain response every time.

What we're dealing with now is those buzzwords we mentioned on the last call that, you know, AIs become the term of the week and it's being used for a lot of things.

Right.

And I think in this case that using, you know, some form of artificial intelligence to sort out what is John's vocal, what is the music as opposed to background noise and clean that up.

Right.

It's a very primitive thing with AIs.

It's not like the stuff we're talking about, but it's a use of that same type of technology to ascertain

What is legitimate sound versus what is extraneous sound that we don't want in the recording?

Here with Trey Cratelli.

Scott, he is the czar of the bar, as I call him, the Iowa Supreme Court Commission's fellow that is in charge of continuing legal education.

This type of brain power is why we have such good CLE across the state in Iowa and also looks at some of our disciplinary and compliance issues.

Trey, so glad to have you back.

So let's continue to explore and delve into this.

This is so new to so many of us, but it's impacting us with real immediacy.

Continue, my friend.

It is.

That intro sound is a great one.

Who do we know who's real?

And we're seeing that with the topic.

I want your listeners to be kind of focusing on what I call AI personality.

All right.

In the past couple of weeks, we've started to see more and more AI personalities.

Metta, which, of course, used to be instilled as known by Facebook by everybody, but Metta, they've come out with basically personalities of people like Snoop Dogg and Kaelin Jenner and all these other folks that you can

have conversations with them, and the AI will respond as if it's that celebrity.

Interesting.

Yeah, we're seeing this roll out in a lot of ways, and many of the people that your listeners may be interacting with on the internet, so for example, maybe that helpbot or chatbot, maybe isn't a human, but it's getting more and more difficult to ascertain who it is.

Fascinating.

Who's real and who's not, and this obviously

can cause a lot of problems in a lot of different areas, as you well know, in the area of legal issues.

Yes.

Who is a person?

What about deep fakes and all those types of things becoming so much easier to make all of that?

It's really going to cause more problems, but we're seeing an embracement of the artificial personality by tech companies.

And from everyone from Spotify, as we talked about last time with the podcast, but they're coming up everywhere.

Instagram has theirs.

Snapchat has their own AI personalities and I think as time goes on, this has only been around for about three weeks now.

And it's just going to continue to get stronger and stronger, and we're not going to be able to know who's real.

And we may recall years ago, when the internet first started, there was a cartoon going around that on the internet, no one knows if you're a dog.

You know, you may remember that, and

now no one

knows if you're a dog or

not.

Well, Scott Corey, just think of it.

If the love and grace is Mrs. Jacobson, if there were two John Jacobsons and she couldn't differentiate which one was which.

You know, I think that's the sign of the apocalypse and that the the seven seal has been open There's two John Jacobson's running around the world But I talked to us just a little bit about what's going on with this because let's say, you know I remember years ago the big story was I think this is the 1990s or something like that where they did basically they cut AI of John Wayne doing course commercials

I was oh Scotty

you've read my mind.

You've read my mind so

So how are the protect protections out there for current actors and actresses?

But at the same time, who's to say they don't cut a John Jacobson or Scott Corey 20 years from now saying something, you know, pro Brian Ferris for God's

sake.

Well, well, this is a great issue because I think Cubby Broccoli and Harry Salisman did want me in a James Bond movie.

I just wasn't available at the time.

Now they could put me in there.

Couldn't they try?

They could very easily put you in.

In fact,

This is one of the issues we're seeing in that, remember the writer strike, the actor strike, and talking about in the video game world, this is really at the heart of many of their concerns is, if I go on a set and they scan me, they take some photographs, they have my voice, and it only takes about five minutes worth of audio now.

Wow.

Now, Trey.

I mean, you can grab this.

Trey, are you impressed?

I was actually discussing the writer strike with Stephanie Powers last weekend.

Are you impressed?

There we go.

She is she is

on the screen actors Guild committee, you know and Anyway, Tim Grover come on over you got a question or comment I'm sure for mr. Trey Critelli Esquire JD the czar of the bar in Iowa

Yeah, so this is a great subject that's been on my mind a lot I think I maybe I'd like to play Dr. McCoy here for a minute

And that's

true.

Are we really smart enough to handle all this technology?

Is it a good thing that we're becoming too reliant on it?

Jim, I'm a surgeon, not an artificial intelligence.

No, that's really the $10,000 question.

And my position is that collectively, we as a species can be.

Individually, we probably aren't.

smart enough, but so more people need to be aware of this.

So we have the ability to say this is acceptable or it's not acceptable.

I really like it a lot.

If you go back to your Greek mythology, when, you know, fire was brought from the gods to the humans, by Prometheus.

Prometheus, my

favorite

Greek

fire gatherer.

Yep.

This is kind of like that.

You know, keep in mind that AI stuff was locked up behind the walls of Google, Alphabet, Meta, and it opened AI.

While they certainly have some flaws, at least brought it out to us, quote-unquote, little people can use it.

And the conversation I've been having with all the lawyers I talk with and non-lawyers is we need to know how this works in the sense of how it's going to impact society.

Because it is transformative just like the Industrial Revolution is.

We're at that point here.

And if we don't get involved and have some say,

Who's going to be making the decisions?

Should we allow this or not?

But you're right.

I mean, this is some scary times on many different levels.

Well, Trey, you mentioned an important question too.

And I know a lot of things are going on in the world right now where a lot of Christians as well as Jewish folks are kind of asking some very important religious questions now too.

I mean, this could actually shake the foundations of even what we call the established religions out there, couldn't it?

It could.

It could.

It could have an impact.

And I've had some great conversations with friends of a theological and philosophical bent on, what's it mean to be self-aware?

What's it mean to have a soul?

What's it mean?

When are these things, have we created some new life?

And we're really creating something that replicates humans as opposed to, you know, we're made an image of our Creator.

And so what does that mean?

And how does that plug into theology and religion and let alone the questions that we have on many different levels?

And it's time for people to be talking about these things.

I don't know what the answers are.

I'm going to

ask the ultimate loaded question here.

Is there a possibility that taken exponentially further some sort of

entity, computer, I'm going to use the word computer just because it resonates with everybody, could develop into a sentient being of some sort.

Yes.

I think that's a foregone conclusion.

Wow.

This is my opinion.

Yeah,

yeah.

It's coming in obviously.

People can differ, but I think as we get there, this technology essentially, we use focus on chat GPT, which is one many people have heard about.

It hasn't even been around for a year yet.

And this is, I mean, it's already as intelligent as your average person in many things.

I mean, it's scored very high on all sorts of tests.

And it's going to continue to be intelligent.

At what point does it become self-aware?

I mean, you may recall that your listeners certainly recall the Turing test, which developed back then.

That's basically, you know, can a computer

Can anyone tell if it's a computer or not?

It doesn't think like a human.

And we've blown that Turing test.

That's already been installed.

Now we're looking at other tests, you know, like the ones they had in the member of the movie Blade Runner had a Turing type test.

And we're reaching that point of we're not quite sure how to even test these things anymore.

Well, if you look at throughout the cinematic history and even books as well,

based on some of the movies that are out there, this doesn't end so well for us in the long run, does it?

It has the possibility of being what I call a species exterminating event.

It's up there along with nuclear weapons.

It's up there with the biologicals and things of that sort.

That doesn't mean it can't do great things as we've seen in those other fields as well.

And it certainly is at that level.

And if you go back historically, John, if you remind me, I'll send you some of these articles.

Many people, scientists for decades have looked and said, super intelligences, which is what this is, may be one of our greatest challenges that we have to learn how to overcome.

Because it is going to change society in many ways.

But more importantly, are we making our own rival?

I

remember trying a little bit older than you, but watching Stanley Kubrick's 2001 in 1969, I got a little uneasy.

Shane's of my age when Hal started reading Lips.

Gene Roddenberry explored these right out of the get-go with Star Trek, even in the motion picture.

reboot in 1979, the Turing test that reminds me of the great and tragic story of Alan Turing, the great British spy that helped us win World War II.

Derek Jackabee portrayed him in film.

Derek Jackabee also famous from the Brother Cadfile Mysteries.

Trey, you're awesome.

You have voice cadence.

and even a chuckle like your father.

So we can maybe memorize these voice ingrains here and see the cadences and the similarities there.

I would point out that your great father in front of our very own Iowa Broadcast News Association, of which the three of us here are members, gave a talk using chat GPT in front of the collegiate

broadcasters at our Iowa Broadcast Convention.

So this isn't just for the young bucks.

It could be for sage wizards like your father as well, Trey.

That's right.

Any of your listeners, they can all get up to speed.

It's not hard.

YouTube is your friend and playing around with it.

You can't break anything.

So get around and play.

These tools are free, at least at the introductory level.

So give a chance and give them a try.

Well, guys, stay tuned for edition three of Trey next week or two here.

In the meantime, Trey Crotelli, ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, the czar of the bar.

Thanks for being with us, Trey.

Okay, thanks for having me.

Trey Crotelli, ladies and gentlemen.

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Thank you, John.

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Doctor, it was a great speech that you gave.

You shared a lot of credit.

It was a very generous speech at Omaha Central.

I got to sit next to Joseph Casarino, the founder of Best Immune Support, and it was fascinating yesterday

I had the opportunity to do a one-hour interview with Governor Asa Hutchinson, presidential candidate, talked a lot about COVID and talked a little bit about the difference between Iowa and Nebraska.

Would you recap that for our listeners, many of whom are in eastern Iowa, how the states responded during COVID, even in the Midwest, the competition among the medical freedom states, not all are created equal.

correct and uh... you know our great friend former iowa state senator dr david heart such who is engaged in a uh... an epic battle of mine within the uh... courts of law he's doing a just

a just cause a battle for goodness over darkness

he's doing prostate litigation to basically uh... get the the iowa citizen three

their free speech rights back from the Board of Medicine and the Board of Pharmacy, which has been restricting Iowa citizens' free speech rights and being able to speak to and learn from their physicians the truth about what are the best treatment protocols for this pandemic virus and future pandemic viruses.

But that said, it's really Dr. Hart such and I have been looking across the Missouri River and comparing and contrasting the

the Nebraska experience during COVID and the Iowa experience during COVID.

And there were a similar number of cases, but the death rate in Iowa was much higher.

And I attribute that really to the open policy that was sparked by Attorney General of Nebraska in October of 2021 coming out and saying that it's perfectly ethical for physicians to use hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.

Right, for our listeners, yeah.

For our listeners, the Nebraska Attorney General, Doug Peterson said, it's okay to prescribe those.

I'll tell you right now, I've remitted and saved my life.

And yet, that environment was not so generous in Iowa.

Well, let's just cut to the chase.

And Doctor, you're thinking that Nebraska did a much better job in saving lives.

And so did the Dakotas, based on my CARES Act grant and getting

A whole bunch of nutraceuticals out into the minds of people in the Dakotas, including a spirulina, which is an antiviral single-celled organism that is used by NASA to defeat the astronauts on the space station.

The whole point of the matter is that our nation, our great nation of laws with a constitution has been trampled by my profession.

And there's been a medical tyranny takeover of virtually every

state government and every level of government.

It's still happening.

I still got just past the back channel from a pharmacist in Iowa.

The abuse that the pharmacy board did to this pharmacist is outrageous.

Now, this goes back months ago, but both of these boards need to be held to account.

Tim Grover, you know our great friend Dr. David Hart, such a question or comment for Dr. Ted Fogarty.

I'd

just like to point out that you're exactly right about what has happened to our public health department.

Down in Clinton, Clinton's about 15 minutes away from me.

They have the public health clinics down there totally, totally misinformed the poor and elderly population.

And now we've got people run around in the middle of the day with masks on in Clinton again.

And it's all

coming

out of, it's all coming out of the public health clinic down there because your bigger city has an actual clinic where we don't see that here in rural Iowa.

And

it's becoming a crime against humanity.

And now the treatment is against it.

And the NFL community is seeing that this is being done on purpose.

Yeah, Tim,

that's so sad to hear,

especially in, you know, small town Iowa.

Um, this is a psychological operation, basically.

Yes.

And I stopped, I stopped all mass mandates in the state of North Dakota.

Um, and, and I did that by actually taking prom union and formulation 200 and putting it in my mouth behind a black surgical face mask and coughing in a slow motion video in the sunshine.

showing how much of that incredibly life-saving powder that you can find at thebestimmunesupport.com, that incredible life-saving powder was jetting out the sides of my mask and up into my eyes as I'm coughing and filming this and I'm sending it into the entire North Dakota legislature as Doug Burgum had just vetoed the anti-mask bill.

And it convinced the North Dakota Senate to overturn

Doug Bergen's veto, and now nobody at any political subdivision level in the state of North Dakota can mandate masks.

Very powerful, Doug.

And with just two minutes left, Scott Corey, what they're talking about, this ugly head is resurging.

Scott Corey, Texas Republican Speaker of the House Phelan, is working to maintain Myrna shot mandates in Texas.

for certain employees.

And this is just an outrage.

And dare I say, Iowa's Kelly Kennedy Garcia, Governor Reynolds' appointment to run the Health and Human Services comes from

Texas.

Well, there is a lot to unpack, and unfortunately, we don't have enough time in this show to do it, John, but let's not forget, Governor Reynolds still has the, basically, the superpowers of the executive authority right now.

They have never been sunsetted, so she has emergency powers.

I might even say extra-constitutional

emergency

powers.

I have used other

words

in regards to that.

Yeah, this is great.

Dr. Fogarty, congrats on your wonderful honor.

That Omaha Central, how did you break into that woke institution?

Not even they can deny you your due because you're saving lives and it works.

Well, it really is due to the great physician and scientist, Dr. Albert B. Crum.

He actually submitted my nomination every year starting with the pandemic year.

of 2020.

But I just want to say this on behalf of all the great Iowans out there and put a word of caution into the minds of anyone listening in the public health arena.

We are going to be progressing towards a Nuremberg 2.0 type of exploration of these crimes against inhumanity that are these mRNA products.

Doc, I'm not going to be in banking trust work forever.

And I look forward to working with you on bringing justice to these perpetrators for what they did.

Well, it's changing our genomes.

It's just been reported by Health Canada that there's DNA contamination, plasma DNA contamination in all of these mRNA products.

And so please plead with your physicians to look at that data and get them to stop this.

This is madness.

And it's truly, it's the biggest crime against humanity are these mRNA products.

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Well Scotty, we are coming up at the end of our time here.

But Scott, how important is it to have these folks undergirding this show and the support of Jeff Stein?

to speak truth to power.

There are very few that are doing it out there.

It's really by a miracle of God that we're able to do it.

But while we've got the mic, we're going to continue to talk.

You know, absolutely, John, as we close in on basically 75 days or less to the Iowa caucuses, our voices must be heard.

We have school board elections and city council elections all throughout the city or the state here in about a week or so.

So be sure to get out there and question these candidates on all the levels moving forward.

It's your basic civil rights are at stake right now.

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