KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - October 7, 2023

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That's why you hear flawless execution on this program.

The studio audience is so psyched to see Mike, they're on their feet.

But you know engineers in eastern Iowa have always been well saluted back to those great people at Rockwell Formerly Collins radio when I was a little boy that helped put man on the moon with that great Apollo program the communications links kids today can't

fathom how we had the technology to pull that off in 1969.

Well, we did.

I lived there.

It was because the folks at Collins Radio and Cedar Rapids and Marion, part of my theory that Iowa is the epicenter of everything.

The caucuses, the Hawkeye-Clock-Eye, college football, the greatest tradition, the hospital wave.

So we're going to break it all down today with

My esteemed co-hosts, Scott Corey in Mobile Unit 1, Chip Reidman in Mobile Unit 2, later on Impressario, Honorary Academy Award winner, TCM collaborator, and American Film Institute awardee Bruce Crawford will be in to discuss movies with us.

In just a minute, we're gonna bring in a little bit of entertainment as Bruce Crawford will be joining us.

As many of you know, Iowa is the home of the late great John Wayne.

Marion Morrison, the iconic motion picture actor, still ranked as America's favorite leading man and symbolic of America itself.

and the values of great American exceptionalism.

John Wayne is emblematic of that.

And Bruce Crawford, on the other side of Iowa, is bringing through a great event.

Bruce is, I call him, impresario raconteur.

He brings Hollywood.

to our region twice a year there in the Omaha Council Bluffs area on the other river of Iowa for these great classic film events.

Bruce, of course, with his own honorary Oscar is memento from the John Wayne family of a replica of the Congressional Medal that John Wayne earned that was bestowed by Jimmy Carter, President Carter, and also

TCM collaborator Turner Classic Movies.

Bruce also an American film institute awardee.

Let's bring in that Ben Hur music for him, Mike Shane, because Bruce is also considered the leading authority today on America's most honored motion picture ever.

Ben Hur, A Tale of the Christ.

11 Academy Awards, the wonderful Charlton Heston version.

Bruce, welcome back to the show.

Our studio audience is delighted to have you.

And Bruce, you've got an incredible event coming up.

Talk to us about it, because we have people from Central and Eastern Iowa.

We have people from other states that drive into Omaha for your big event.

And this is our 50,000 Clear-Watt, Clear Channel Enterprise here that goes to about 15 Midwest states.

What do you got cooking and when, Bruce?

Well, take it just went on sale two days ago and for my 60th anniversary tribute to the John Wayne, Marina Herrera, Stephanie Powers, classic McClintock.

Oh, McClintock, I love McClintock.

It's a masterpiece of comedy and Western

fun.

You know, it's one of my favorite John Wayne movies Scott Corey it has a little bit of the mojo from the the quiet man in terms of the chemistry between Duke Wayne and Marino Hera and that Rivalry chemistry that that befitted them so well in several movies and it essentially

It's a redo of the Taming of the Shrew.

So Bruce, talk a little bit about the specifics of this movie.

You're having it at the legendary Omaha Community Playhouse, which for our Iowa listeners is just on the Council Bluffs side of the state there along the Missouri River.

Talk about the site of your event, Bruce.

Yes, it's the largest community theater actually in the United States.

And it's got two

theater at times, one about 150 seats, the Drew Theater, and then the one we use, which is the Hawks Main Stage, there's got 600 seats, so it's a pretty big theater.

And we bring in a 50-foot motion picture screen and full digital projection and stereophonic sound, DTS sound, it's just incredible.

It's as nice as any movie theater in the country when we do that.

And we're going to be doing it for the fantastic 60th anniversary tribute to John Wayne and Marina Herrera.

Stephanie powers in McClinty.

We're gonna have Stephanie powers coming.

She's coming in Stephanie powers herself Wow a lot of people know her from so many roles Including the television series heart to heart of more recent vintage, but she was a Very beautiful young probably only 20 21 years old when that movie was made

Or maybe even younger like 18 or 19

Wow Wow,

and and yes drop dead beautiful absolutely.

She still is

Bruce Crawford here with us.

Bruce, the date of your event.

What is the date?

Friday, October 27th, PM.

And tickets are only 30 bucks.

And it's a benefit for the Omaha Christian Academy at private school.

And you can get tickets by calling 402-399-9565.

And also you can go to OmahaChristianAcademy.org forward slash movie on your computer.

or your smartphone, it takes you right there and you can buy tickets online, easy peasy.

This is great, so repeat again the phone number and the online.

Yes, it's 402-399-9565, but even easier to go online to www.omahakristenacademy.org, then a four slash movie.

And just type that in and take it right there and you can buy

As many tears as you want, 30 bucks a piece and it's all online.

And I have to tell you, in the first 12 hours, we've already sold one fourth of our seats already.

Wow.

And it sounds like you're going to have a great panel conversation.

You'll be conducting it along with actress Stephanie Powers and our own Brian Downs from the John Wayne Museum there in Winterset, not far away.

That's right.

Stephanie and I will be on stage and Brian will be with us.

We'll be on either side of her on stage with her microphones, having to tell stories, reminiscing about working with John Wayne and Marina Heron.

Of course, she's had an incredible career with Robert Wagner for many years on hard to hard on TV.

She's very accomplished, but we'll focus, of course, on Cease the University of this movie.

And Brian will come from the John Wayne angle, and I'll come from all the other angles.

And of course, we'll take questions from the audience, because I'm sure you'll have some questions when you're there, too.

Wow.

Wow.

This is so awesome.

Bruce, you have people coming in from all over the U.S.

for your events, don't you?

Yes, I have.

And like I said, with this, buying tickets online makes it even easier for people to come from far away.

I know at least one couple I know that are coming in from Nashville, Tennessee for this.

Wow.

Well, Bruce, while we have you here, we're going to continue to promote this.

So which day in October again?

Friday October 27th 7

p.m.

So Friday 10 20 Friday October 20 at

location.

I want you in the playoffs and address is 59 18 15 15 Cass Street in Omaha

easy to get to guys easy to get to wonderful acoustics there Bruce while we have you here the passing of two

of actors this weekend of legendary stuff.

You knew one of them, David McCallum, who I remember from the man from Uncle.

My daughter remembers him more as Ducky from NCIS.

My daughter's a big David McCallum fan.

She's been to a lot of your events.

She's also a big Michael Gambon.

fan because she loved double door in the harry potter series michael gambin also passed and i thought he was great as uh... inspector may gray on the uh... uh... british television and and u s uh... pbs series may gray a reflection a bit on those two for us bruce crofford

well yes i know more about uh... uh... david and i do michael but uh... but i knew i knew david

He was my guest, believe it or not, ten years this November, when I hosted the 50th anniversary of The Great Escape, one of David's early movies and big success.

David was my guest for that.

I can't remember if you were there or not, John, for that event.

They've all been so wonderful, Bruce.

The thing about these great Bruce Crawford events is all the ancillary memorabilia, reenactments, costumes.

It is truly an experience, Bruce Crawford.

Yours like nothing other.

You bring, literally, Hollywood to Iowa and Nebraska twice a year like nobody else can do.

It's bringing classic Hollywood.

You've got to be specific about today's Hollywood.

That's true.

Your impression is of McCallum.

You've got to spend time with him as he came to your event.

Very humble, man.

Very humble.

And I remember when I picked him up at the airport, we drove back to the hotel.

We had a great talk.

And I spent quite a bit of time with him.

He's just a very down-to-earth, very modest, unassuming person, but a very famous impairment.

You see who he is instantly.

He's a very recognizable actor.

and uh... i grew up watching him even in the sixties as a kid watching his performance in the classic tv series at the outer limits which is actually sixty years ago this this fall

yeah mike shane's pulling up all sorts of cool stuff on youtube we might hear some man from uncle theme music even before we get done with this so uh... the

great escape though was a big breakthrough role for him

yeah the great

escape as a result of the success of the great escape that's how you got offered to be on the man from uncle just a year later

And then, of course, Ducky, for almost 20 years, the forensic investigator for Mark Harmon there at NCIS, Dave McCallum, who passed away at 90 this week, he was in this series as late as last year.

He was in the penultimate, the final episode last year, albeit by remote.

He started to take a decelerated role in the series for about the past two years, but boy, what a vigorous life he had.

Yeah, he just turned 90 a week ago.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's one week after his ninth birthday

is very poignant his wife who is 80 He's been married to her for many many many years to show you how young at heart this couple was She's told her daughter how much she regretted that they would not be able to grow old together This said by an 80 year old woman married to a 90 year old man that shows a youth at heart doesn't it Bruce Crawford

evidently yes because

I'd say David did grow old at 90.

He did

run.

It was a good run.

And Michael Gambon had a great run, too.

You know, it, uh, uh, you look at, at the role of, oh, listen, there that is.

That's the music.

I know.

Ilya Karukin.

What was his name?

Mike Sheen,

Ilya.

Very killing.

See, Bruce Crawford knows all.

Exactly.

Well done, Bruce.

Um, so Michael Gambon took over.

for the last six of the eight Harry Potter movies.

Who is the great British actor?

Was it Richard Harris who died after the first two roles as Dumbledore?

Right.

And Michael Gammon comes in.

Of course, I remember him as Inspector May Gray.

I love those PBS that we imported for Britain, those as a great French detective.

But

Gambon was able to pull that roll off from movies three to eight almost seamlessly showed you what a consummate pro he was

Absolutely Yeah, they're these British talents are just nothing like them really

And

how iconic to be so enmeshed now with a legendary ongoing successful series, Michael Gambon at 90.

Bruce, let's get back to our own Iowa-born and bred John Wayne.

What accounts for the pervading significance of John Wayne?

He's still so relevant and so beloved.

today why what what accounts for that do you think bruce crawford

too hard to put your finger on that because he's been gone forty four years yes here we are here we are doing a jbc university tribute to with his most popular pictures mclintock and of course he has 70 powers coming but we sold literally one fourth of our tickets sold in less than 12 hours wow away movie wow four years that's just that's what public they just won't let go

Well, no one does John Wayne movies like Bruce Crawford, Bruce.

I think one of your most fabulous events ever was when you screened what I believe to be the finest Western and one of the five best movies ever made, in my opinion, The Searchers.

That was a magnificent event you had.

You had AC Lyles come in.

You had the song group.

Doing the green leaves of summer and oh my goodness.

What a great event that was the John Wayne Society people were out there Bruce you're seamlessly connected with Iowa between John Wayne and So many of our other Pivot points that have gone on to Hollywood from Iowa not not least of whom is down a read You also did a tribute and it's a wonderful life some years

ago.

Absolutely.

Yes

It's just amazing, the connection, of course, of Malim Brando's from the Midwest, too, you know.

I did the Godfather, had Brando's children come back for it, which was the first time in history that family, Brando families, ever made a public appearance anywhere.

Wow.

Wow.

They're very reclusive.

People

and Bruce you've had to Dwyer Brown back for field of dreams You gave Iowa shot in the arm with that huge screening of field of dreams.

You even had Warren Buffett show up for that one sitting next to me I didn't even know it which is probably good because if the lights had gone up and I'd seen and we'd probably not agreed on politics

I

can't wait to go to this with all my friends.

We're gonna be there and You and Stephanie and Brian Downs that is a troika worth listening to that That's a bonus on top of the movie big time Yes,

and she'll be doing a meet and greet and autographing in the lobby after the movie as well So it will be quite a night and I'm encouraging people to want to come dressed

and

and western ware from like that from the 1880s please do so the guy if you have a cowboy hat you got to take it off the one you're watching the movie because you don't want to block the vision from somebody behind you

can can i dress as strother martin maybe bruce and talk in my vocal fry and you gotta go i'll get liberty oh october 20 saturday night

Omaha Community Playhouse, be there and you can re-listen to these phone numbers and addresses and how-tos on our podcast.

You just need to type in KXEL.com slash Jacobson, J-A-C-O-B-S-E-N, re-listen to this show.

As Mike Shane plays these great John Wayne soundtracks in the background and get this information listener Bruce talk to us once again.

Studio audience applause for Bruce Crawford joining us again today.

Bruce is going to join us on our other two networks here over the course of the next week.

So Bruce you and I will be talking again very soon.

That's great.

Thank you so much.

Mike Shane, this is my favorite time of the show when we get to check back in with the matriarch of Iowa Commerce on my beloved hometown of Marion Cedar Rapids, the great Barbara Haymes Bryan.

The

scion of Haymes family commerce.

of Haymes Homes, the matriarch of community.

Excellent.

Barbara, as many of our folks know, you also head up the Iowa Federation of Republican Women in this Hawkeye-Cawkeye state that First of the Nation helps us to choose the leader of the free world.

And you were at a big conference last week in, were you in DC, Barbara?

We were actually in Oklahoma City.

Even better in the Midwest.

I love it when we make all the coastal elites come to the heartland.

And that was though the National Conference of the Federation of Republican Women.

Can you report in?

It's caucuses now are barely three months away.

What's the buzz?

Oh, it was a great conference.

We had some amazing speakers.

I'd say the star of the show was Riley Gaines, if you know who she is.

Oh yes, tell our audience,

I am

familiar with her,

yes.

Yes, national champion swimmer, she lost her title to Leah Thomas, who was a biological male, trained as a male, and decided he was a girl.

Right.

And at first I thought, well, you know, so you lost to a boy, how bad can that be?

And she explained,

that Leah Thomas is six foot four, and she's five foot six, and she was the reigning champion until then.

And she is crossing the country talking about how women sports need to be for women, and girl sports need to be for girls, because how unfair is this that she's trained all of her life, and she loses to somebody who's got hormones that give him more strength?

Yeah, you know Barbara.

What's interesting is I've talked to some women that I would say are progressive Certainly more liberal than me on the political spectrum But I noticed that when it comes to this issue They side very resolutely with Riley Gaines even otherwise progress progressive liberal young women.

I find that interesting

I Find it very telling I think that this

Hold this course about what is a man and what is a woman is getting a huge giant pushback?

Because I think it's just gone too far

Yep, it's an amazing issue because when polling is done you're right Barbara the polling shows that there is now a Recoiling among the public more solidifying toward traditional separation of

gender sports.

And of course, we have so many folks on our show, including coach Patrick J. Knapp Jr., the Georgetown Women's Coach, and all the work that they've put into building Title IX and Parity for Women's Sports, it's being damaged, really, a lot of that hard work and undergirding with this recent development, Barbara.

Oh, and besides just the unfairness in the sports itself, Leah Thomas is allowed to use the girls locker room.

And the girls, the women on the swim team are horrified because he's got all his body parts intact, she said, and he's a lot bigger than they are.

And it was really uncomfortable and embarrassing.

And she kept waiting for someone to stand up for her.

She kept waiting.

for a coach or a parent or someone to say, this isn't right.

On the end, she said, we decided as athletes, we were going to have to stand up and say, this isn't right.

Well, and Barbara is a father, including not just of boys, but of a daughter.

Frankly, that type of locker room imposition really does not respect the biblical modesty that many

young ladies still want to observe, and even in Iowa, our civil rights statute says that the state has to be totally neutral when it comes to siting with any religious affiliation.

Therefore, it must respect religious beliefs and affiliations.

And so really, in some of these situations, you have the government imposing

against the civil rights of some of these young ladies that do wish to have the modesty that traditionally has been valued for centuries, if not millennia.

You're absolutely right.

Fortunately here in Iowa, Kim Reynolds has passed the Women in Sports Act, which is hugely important, and 20 other states have as well.

And I'm really hoping the other 30 states pass it.

You know, I appreciate the governor doing that because Barbara several years ago, I introduced such a bill and it was not met with favor.

And so even then, it was amazing at the resistance that we got.

It took time to develop the arguments, but you know, it wasn't till people felt the heat that they saw the light.

and Governor Reynolds did do the right thing there, as has Governor Pillon in Nebraska, and the Heartland is drawing a line, and it's still very possible for anybody to compete.

fairly and equitably in Iowa.

We have men's sports.

We have women's sports.

We even have women's wrestling in Iowa.

It's fine.

The nice thing is that they don't have to wrestle on the mat with young males.

That would have been very uncomfortable for me as an eighth grader wrestling the cute girl sitting next to me in the chair in Catholic grade school there.

Not so sure doctor and Mrs. Jacobson would have been for that.

I think you would have made a lot of people uncomfortable.

And thank goodness for women's wrestling.

How about that?

It's become a hugely popular sport.

I think it's great.

I do too.

And my sister, of course, earned a Division I scholarship to play basketball for Georgetown.

Iowa Women's Basketball, starting out with six on six, always has brought a great, unique talent to the national forefront.

As do your beautiful

safe, affordable homes, Barbara Haynes Bryant.

So

let's play.

We love bragging about our beautiful manufactured homes.

They are spacious.

They have high vaulted ceilings, island kitchens, sunken tubs.

They're built with all the same building materials as a traditional site built home, but they only cost twice as much.

They cost half as much to build because they're built indoors in a climate controlled environment.

Well, this is great.

So let's play, let's play a game here.

Let's play Manufactured Homes Factor Fiction.

Are you ready to take the quiz, Barbara Hames Bryant?

I am ready, lay it on me.

All right, our studio audience, welcome to our studio audience.

Factor Fiction Manufactured Homes.

Do we have the bell, mic, if they're ready here?

Okay, very good.

Question one, let's up.

Bring in issue one from our McLaughlin group soundtrack here.

Question one, Barb.

True or false?

Mobile homes are built with cheap materials.

False.

There you go.

We've got, and the crowd responds.

Barbara scores on that one.

And why so, Barbara?

Well, when you think of mobile homes and manufactured homes and trailers, sometimes people think of their grandpa's old trailer, the old eight wide, eight by 40, and it was built to be moved around.

Well, today's manufactured homes are sturdy, they're solid, they're built to a housing and urban development code.

And let me tell you what, they're beautiful and affordable, and most of all, they eat cheap.

Wow, what an answer.

Question two.

Can she stump the band here?

The maximum wind a properly installed manufactured home can survive without tipping over is A, 60 miles an hour, B, 70 miles per hour, C, 100 miles per hour, D, 140 miles per hour, or more?

D,

the answer

is D. Barbara is correct.

The crowd again on their feet.

Barbara, those are hurricane forest winds.

Tell us about this.

You know that three years ago we had a bad storm come through Cedar Rapids, Iowa called a derecho.

It blew the roof

off my

mom's condo.

You're right.

It blew the roof off of our brick office.

It blew the sides off of warehouses.

It completely flattened strip malls, but none of our mobile homes, our manufactured homes, tipped over.

They had some fighting, some skirting damage.

You know, everybody had a little bit of damage.

A couple of them shifted slightly on their foundation, but none of them tipped over.

Now, if that isn't a testament to how good manufactured homes are in a strong wind, I don't know what is.

That is a great testament.

Issue three, Mike Shane.

Amenities found in grand view.

and Summit View.

Manufactured home communities include A, parks and playgrounds, B, a dog park, C, a disc golf course, D, walking trails, or E, all of the above.

All

of the above

and then some.

Barbara, three for three.

Tell us about it, Barb.

Well, not only does Grandview and Summit manufacture home communities and Southwest Cedar Rapids have all of those amenities you just mentioned, but we also have a basketball court, a dog park.

We've got parks and playgrounds.

We have emergency storm shelters in case there's a bad storm coming through like our derecho.

And we also have events for residents that are good for all ages.

Don Pardo would have parting gifts for all of the losing contestants, but Barbara is a winner.

She's answered all correctly.

She is our reigning champ and will return for another round of Manufactured Homes Fact or Fiction next week.

Barbara, what's it feel like to be reigning champ?

Oh, it feels good, but I just don't rest on my laurels because you never know when that next champ is going to come through.

Well Barbara, some are going to want to play this game too.

How do they get in touch with you?

Best way to reach us is online.

Hayneshomes.com.

H-a-m-e-s-h-o-m-e-s.com.

We can also be reached by phone at our old Miriam phone number 319-377-4863.

319-377-4863.

or you can view our beautiful model homes seven days a week at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road Southwest.

So, Wilson Avenue, West Post Road, seven days a week, James Holmes.

That's a winning showcase that our crowd is standing and applauding right now.

Barb, this was fun.

We'll welcome you back next week again.

Always a joy to visit with you.

Thank you, John.

You're the best.

Barbara Hames Bryant, ladies and

gentlemen.

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We are about to be joined by the wonderful Iowa attorney, Trey Critelli, out of Des Moines, and let's cue up his appropriate theme song, Mr. Sheen, because he is of the stature of Perry Mason, to me.

Trey Critelli, and Mike, Trey's a guy you pay serious attention to, because I call him the czar.

for the Iowa Supreme Court of Ethics, Compliance, and Discipline.

Betray is really a man for all seasons, a Renaissance man, and we're bringing him in today to introduce a discussion series on artificial intelligence.

Everybody is asking, what is this buzz all about?

Some understand it, and I'll just kick it off.

Trey, it's for everybody.

Your great father, who has been on this show numerous times, as I like to tease him, is at the beginning of his ninth decade here on Earth.

He's an AI guy.

Talk to us about artificial intelligence, Trey Critelli, Esquire, JD.

And the studio

audience, studio audience on their feet for Trey, of course.

On this beautiful Saturday, as yours truly is about to head into Kinnick and cheer on my beloved Iowa Hawkeyes.

Trey, I think you're a Drake guy, aren't you?

Actually, I'm a Drake and Loris guy, but I did go to law school to Drake, so you're right.

And we've had your great son on the show who's at Loris.

So this is all of the family Critelli.

Now you are the icing on the cake.

Take it away, Trey, artificial intelligence.

Thank you, John.

Thanks for having me

on.

And this is a really interesting topic.

I think your listeners are going to appreciate because everywhere they turn around, they're seeing this AI.

It's popping up on

on all sorts of websites, all over the news.

And I thought it'd be a good chances to explain a little bit about what it is and how people should start taking a look at it.

You can't put your head in the sand on this one.

Wonderful tour.

We're going to begin here.

Well, Trey, I put it in the first gear and on our maiden voyage, let's start rolling on down the road here.

That sounds good.

So there's a phrase a lot of people will hear called the LLM, which means a large language model.

And basically what that involves is how they made these AIs.

They scraped all the internet information, so all the words, all the blog posts, all the scientific articles, and they basically compiled them together, and now they use math to predict the next word.

Amazing,

amazing.

John, if I say roses are red, violets are... I say blue.

Popped in your head.

Yeah, blue.

Everyone says blue.

Yeah, it's because it's the predictor that we have we've heard that so many times AI is using math so all those people that took

calculus and trigonometry and algebra back in high school, they finally figured out what to do with it.

Well, you know, I've actually used some of it for investment correlation coefficient formula and ratios, but man, that takes me way too long.

I bet this is much more efficient Trey Crotelli Esquire.

It

is much more efficient and it's prone to some some complications and things that can make some things up because it's not

Uh, doesn't have all the knowledge math can't show everything.

I call it the dad factor.

Sometimes like when a kid asks what caught why is the sky blue and the dad needs to provide an answer.

He

makes one up

right on the

same thing,

right?

But they're, but this is being baked into the internet.

So when your users go to Google, they're have the ability to use an AI called Bard.

If they go to Microsoft, they have a AI called Bane.

These things are being built into the search engines.

I bet your people are seeing it when they go to do some Google searches.

It'll be in the top there.

But it's also being rolled out in Windows.

So every Word document in Windows 11 will now have a panel on the right-hand side that will give you help on writing that document, on writing a letter.

And it's going to be changing

society in the same ways that computers did.

This is incredible.

Trey Critelli with this, ladies and gentlemen.

Trey, a Loris undergrad and Drake Law alum, a lot of us in Eastern Iowa listening in for the Dubuque area.

And of course this 50,000 watt signal actually carams through every state in the Big Ten.

Had a listener the other day listening from Ottawa, Kansas live on the AM band.

So this signal pulls it in also on our sister signal 100.5 FM.

out of Cedar Rapids here on KXL with Trey Cratelly, JD.

So Trey, let's continue on.

Some people seem to be very afraid of AI.

You hear some of these doom and gloom warnings, even from some prominent noted media and scientific people.

What's that all about?

Yeah, what's that?

That's that's a very valid concern.

It's can we control the AI?

We've made something now that's almost it's actually as intelligent as a human it scored in the 90th percentile on many tests including the bar exam and a lot of Scientific tests and GRE and things like that and the question is what happens if we can't control it?

How do we turn it off go back to 2001?

You know remember how from that movie.

No sure.

Yeah, that was that that was I was a little kid in the theater

mesmerized I think I was eight years old and when he could read those lips I knew those guys were doomed.

Exactly well now it's getting the point where the AI can do that and that's got a lot of people understandably concerned and rightfully concerned but the antidote to that is for more of us normal people

to learn how this works, to have a say in the process.

If we don't, then it just gets used by the high priesthood of technology and Google and Baidu and Amazon and all those folks, and we don't get a say in it.

So it's really an important time for us little people to learn how this works, to get involved and to make our voices heard.

Should this be allowed?

Should it be regulated?

Should it be banned?

What are the pros and the cons?

With Trey Critelli here.

Trey is the czar for the Iowa Supreme Court for ethics and continuing ed and compliance and Trey one thing that's amazing is You know, I've kind of traversed the era as has Mike Shane Technologically I can remember my undergrad days in college and of course To date me here.

I am as far removed

from my first year at law school, Mike Shane, as the Iowa 39 Nile Kinic Ironmen were from my freshman year of college.

So I have gone from punched cards in the computer labs at undergrad where we read punched cards and Trey at one time in the early 80s, I thought I was on the cutting edge of technology because I was doing cobalt programming for the SEC.

Uh, out in Chicago in that summer of 84, working for Arthur Anderson company.

Now my three children have vastly surpassed me, but try I notice in your family, you guys are all keeping up.

And I always think, well, how can we generate AI to our advantage?

And, uh, you're telling me, uh, about some AI on Spotify, they'll take a

podcast and change the spoken language to another one like Spanish that the AI clones the audio and translates into Spanish with the original voice.

So are you saying that Shane and I and Scott Corey and the gang here could be in

Spanish, French or German, more languages coming?

I mean, boy, we could take this as seven continents, Mike Shane.

Am I right here on this trade?

You are correct, John.

We

could have your voice in Spanish, French, German, and all it takes is basically recording your show, making it a podcast essentially, hitting the button when you upload it and it will translate it and there's more languages coming.

I can't wait

to hear you speak in

German.

Well, we'll try even better.

I always wanted to be Pope and I think if I could be speaking in Latin, it would just be so dignified and elegant, but my wife has written a

rather large treatise, voluminous, almost like Tolstoy on why I could never be Pope and should never be Pope.

But you do have the Italian lineage, Mr. Critelli.

It's still in the cards for you, maybe.

That's correct.

That's correct.

And you can use AI to translate any language into any other language.

And it works very well.

In fact, yesterday I was translating Italian into English and

it

worked very, very well on that.

So

So, can you cheat on this?

I'm thinking of James T. Kirk reprogramming the Kobayashi Maru to make sure he won the no-win scenario.

Can you cook the books with a, you know, garbage in, garbage out?

Can you essentially indoctrinate via exclusivity of data?

I mean, do we have those types of issues, Trey?

We have similar issues in that I can guide the

to respond in a certain way by telling it, maybe I could say for example that you are a law school professor and answer the question as this from that perspective.

But then the people that control the data is at a darker level in that sense.

They can certainly decide what data is in or not and they get to decide what words way more than others in the algorithm and particularly.

So there are some concerns

Fortunately, groups like OpenAI and some other ones have been pretty transparent, but that being said, you know, there's still big corporations, so we have to keep an eye on them.

It's more likely that people will just get wrong data because they're not adept at typing things in that you actually said garbage in garbage out.

So that's why we need to start practicing now.

So when these things become even more ubiquitous, people know how to interface with them.

So, Trey, is it possible that AI could write better songs than the Beatles or better speeches than the Gettysburg Address?

Are we going to become Captain Dunsell's irrelevant and obsolete ourselves, even in the law, perhaps?

You know, we are exploring those very issues in the law right now, dealing with lawyers.

I don't believe that as of right now, AI will make anything as creative as the Beatles or as...

any creative works because it lacks that human element, that humanity aspect.

All it can do is repeat what's already in its database.

What makes art exciting is that it's doing something new or making a new connection.

As of today, it doesn't yet have that ability.

At least I've never been able to get it to do that.

It can do some pretty wonderful things.

There's a lot of bands that are almost as good as the Beatles that are great bands.

And so it's getting there, but just not quite yet.

Trey Gertelli, kind of an outro here as we will, we've kicked off this series this week.

We will have this as a continuation here, but looking at all of the AI world, Trey, is it possible that this could be so advanced, so sophisticated that could

Could this AI become sentient?

Could it have a will to go along with an intellect?

Could it jeopardize missile defense systems, ICBMs?

You hear some of these prophets of doom.

Do we have any concerns in that area?

What would the nature of those be?

You've raised the $10,000 question, John.

as i thought you would and i think it is definitely possible and i think it's a goal of some entities such as alphabet which is a parent company of google and some of the other ones that's what they're trying to make is called a g i artificial general intelligence and i think there's a possibility that they will have something that as a is as smart as you and i but more importantly will have its own wills and desires which is obviously the concern

Because computers look at things differently than we do.

It doesn't have a sense of fairness.

It doesn't have what we call the law equity.

Remember those equitable principles?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Dirty hands, doctrine, those things.

Computers don't have that.

They're either yes or they're no.

They're ones or they're zeros.

That's the issue we're concerned.

This is great.

Trade, the trajectory of this is amazing because when I was in law school at Iowa, I know Mike Shane, as I was listening to the voice of Mike Shane when I would come back to Omaha and hear Shane doing news on the big blow torch out of Omaha, I always had to resort to paying one of the secretaries for the law professors.

a dollar a page to type the papers because we did not yet have word processors tray.

We were still jeopardizing by walking from book to book and the time spent interning around three versions of a paper for $90 for a dollar a page for three redos of a 30 page paper that now I can do revisions in five minutes on Microsoft Word to think of where we're heading now.

the geometric progression on this, the exponential progression is almost mind-boggling.

I'll just leave with this.

I do see some benefits from AI.

Since I'm heading into Kinnock here momentarily, I'm wondering if we could use AI, Mike Shane.

If we could use AI to expand the Brian Farance Offensive Playbook.

Trey, do you think there's any hope for us?

I think there is, but they may not be very good plays.

Well, Trey is the high-tech Perry Mason.

Let's bring Trey out with Perry Mason here as our studio audience is on their feet and they're asking for more.

Trey, will you come back?

in a week or two and resume this great discussion with us on artificial intelligence.

Certainly, certainly.

Just let me know.

Guys, Trey Cratelli, JD Esquire, Otto Des Moines, and the Iowa Supreme Court, the czar of ethics, compliance, and continuing ad on the blowtorch KXEL 50,000 watts.

I'm a lifelong Republican, lifelong conservative.

I've rarely voted for a Democrat, certainly never for president.

But I've got to tell you, haven't spent significant time around Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

because he and I are so sympathico on the pandemic.

and the lockdown debacles of the last several years of the censorship issues.

He is a giant among Lily Putions intellectually and in terms of comportment and demeanor and his knowledge of history.

Mr. Kennedy, you are all Iowan with your drumstick at the fair.

I'll tell you what, I am looking for some fried bacon.

And maybe some fried butter.

I've heard about it.

I haven't seen it yet.

But this is my comfort food.

You had a great crowd here today.

I think it was the largest gathering at the State Fair.

Des Moines is not even the biggest metro area.

The Omaha County bus area is.

You had there tomorrow.

Many people have fond memories of your father there from the 68 campaign.

Yeah, my father.

My father spoke at Creighton University and then gave a pretty famous speech in Omaha.

He got an extraordinary reception

and I

think

it

really, it was at a time when his campaign was really starting to take it off.

He won that Nebraska primary, a huge victory.

He won South Dakota.

But he went on the Wabash Cannonball.

He did?

The train ride.

Yeah, the train ride all over the Midwest.

But Nebraska was a huge turning point for

him.

It was, and it showed that with Bobby Sr.

winning California on the heels of Nebraska and then that same night, South Dakota, you've talked about the terrible...

Level of toxicity and how you can bridge that your your your father bridge that How can you do that?

Well, I think we got to start by telling people the truth.

I Think the reason that people are you know at each other's throats.

It's like If you've got a family and the parents are dysfunctional in their line to the kids Everybody is going to be dysfunctional and at each other's throats

You've

told the truth and you've been vindicated.

You were right as the COVID data is coming out.

You were right about everything.

Fauci was wrong.

Not even the Republicans stood up to Fauciism and what happened there.

And the lockdown was debilitating the miconstituents.

It was destructive.

You've seen that nationwide, especially on the poor, the African-American and the children in our communities.

Yeah, the lockdowns cost us $16 trillion.

And we got nothing for it.

You know, the countries and the states that did happy lockdowns, fair to worse, we shifted $4 trillion from the poor to the super rich and the middle class, the super rich.

We created a billionaire a day during the lockdown, so 500 new billionaires.

and we shut down Main Street.

This country 3.3 million businesses and we taught people instead, you know, to shop at Amazon.

So it was terrible for our country and as you say, the kids suffered the worst.

The suicide is now the biggest cause of death for black children.

IQ and toddlers dropped by 22% according to the Brown University study and

you know, American kids who are in elementary school are going to require remedial education for the rest of their academic careers.

Oh, you know, it was really punishing for our children.

And by the way, it didn't help us.

We ended up with the highest COVID death rate on earth.

We had, we have only 4.2% of the global population, but we had 16% of the COVID deaths.

So that's not a success story.

The lockdowns were a failure.

In the censorship, I will tell you that so many were censored for telling the truth, you were censored for telling the truth, and you've tied that in with this corporate stranglehold with the government, with industry, this corporate cronyism, the very people who were shutting you and me down with our speech, although we enrounded it through the legislature and AM radio, but it was tough.

Those same people were the ones benefiting from the lockdown.

Yeah, exactly.

The very companies that were censoring criticism of the lockdowns were making billions on it.

So Facebook, Google, Bloomberg, Twitter, you know, ended up doing it, participating in the censorship itself.

And the people, these

You know, these social media titans who came into the lockdown with a billion dollars increased their wealth on average by 30%.

And they did it by shutting down those of us who were saying, wait a minute, this lockdown is not working.

You spoke beautifully today in front of the crowd about conserving our resources.

You talked about these pipelines, the carbon capture pipeline.

You have had the transcendence as a statesman to rightly point out that God speaks to us in various vectors.

One of those is through his beautiful creation.

It's a tapestry.

He's woven in your own words.

And we're pulling those threads.

We can find God in the arts and religion and culture.

Nothing, though, imitates nature.

And when we deprive ourselves of that, we're depriving ourselves of touching the divine, aren't we?

Yeah, that's exactly right.

You know, God talks through all of these, you know, through organized religion, through the great books of those religions, through wise people, prophets, and through art, literature, and music, and poetry, but nowhere with the texture and detail and grace and joy as through creation.

And when we destroy that, we destroy part of our capacity to sense the divine.

Also, you know, nature connects us to art.

to our history, to our culture.

It gives context to our communities.

It's the source ultimately of our values, our virtues, our characters, and people.

It's the American democracy.

Frederick Jackson Ternu is our greatest American historian.

And that American democracy came out of the wilderness without the forest and the farms.

You know, American democracy simply wouldn't have evolved the way that the institutions did.

You've rightly said nature is our safety net.

It's also politically a social saving net during the Great Depression.

10,000 men went down to the Hudson River who were unemployed and they caught fish, they grabbed, they caught shrimp.

They fed themselves, in some cases, they were marketing those products for their family and feeding their families.

And today, if that happened, you know, the fish are now loaded with toxic PCBs.

You're not allowed to sell them in the market anymore, so we've destroyed the social safety net.

And,

you know,

that's

not a good plan for our country.

you've said there's so much distrust in america when your uncle when your uncle was taken from us eighty percent of the american people trusted government now only twenty percent trust the government media many including me think the government is lying to us about ukraine a lot of people in iowa especially western iowa don't want this conflagration in the ukraine what are your thoughts on the ukraine war situation

the ukraine war

is a war, and you know, I'm not apologizing for Vladimir Putin.

His invasion was illegal.

It was brutal.

He had other options, but we have to understand that the U.S.

has deliberately, the people in the White House, the neocons, Victoria Newland, Anthony Blinken, April Hanks, had deliberately provoked that war.

They wanted that war.

They, on two occasions,

In 2019, when Vladimir Zelensky tried to sign the Minsk Accords and settle the war, we torpedoed that.

And then again, in April of 2022, he initialed a peace agreement with Putin a month before in March of 2022, and we sent our White House.

St.

Boris Johnson over there to torpedo that agreement to sabotage it because we wanted the war that month Lloyd Austin the Secretary of Defense was asked why are we in Lee Ukraine?

Why is the US?

And he was honest.

He said we're there to degrade to exhaust the Russian army and degrade its capacity to fight any place in the world and you know and President Biden said

We're there to do regime change in Russia.

They want to balkanize Russia, and you know, that's not good for Ukraine.

That is not, you know, my son fought in Ukraine.

Many of the people that he fought with are now dead.

There's 350,000 kids.

Ukrainian kids who have died who are being, you know, fed into this abattoir of death.

And there's 50,000 Russians who have died, kids.

And 50,000 parents, mothers who are bereaved.

And, you know, it is not, it's a war we can't win.

We were lied to about every aspect of this war.

It's a war we're being lied to about the casualty counts.

And we're being lied about the long history of U.S.

provocation that got Russia to this point of moving NATO right to the borders, of putting Aegis missile systems, nuclear cable missile systems on their border.

of walking away unilaterally from the two nuclear, intermediate nuclear weapons treaties that we signed with the Russians.

And all of those are provocations that Russians warned again and again and again.

We cannot take NATO intrusion into Ukraine.

We've been invaded three times through Ukraine.

We're not going to do that.

It would be like the Russians putting nuclear weapons systems.

In Cuba, we know what my uncle had to do there.

Oh, it's been a joy.

Another Saturday.

Let's go Hawks.

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And special kudos to Mike Shane, our engineer of magnificence.

This show sounds so great because this guy is the Wunderkind who just does all things well as the ultimate radio editor.

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Thanks always to Barbara Hames Bryant.

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