KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - September 30, 2023

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going to every state in the Big Ten here today with you and the great Michael Shane at the controls with that inimitable ring tone that he has earned.

That's why you hear flawless execution on this program.

The studio audience is so psyched to see Mike, they're on their feet.

But you know engineers in eastern Iowa have always been well saluted back to those great people at Rockwell Formerly Collins radio when I was a little boy that helped put man on the moon with that great Apollo program the communications links kids today can't fathom how we had the technology

to pull that off in 1969.

Well, we did.

I lived there.

It was because the folks at Collins Radio and Cedar Absin Marion, part of my theory that Iowa is the epicenter of everything.

The caucuses, the Hawkeye-Clock-Eye, college football, the greatest tradition, the hospital wave.

So we're going to break it all down today with...

My esteemed co-hosts, Scott Corey in Mobile Unit 1, Chip Reidman in Mobile Unit 2, later on Impressario, honorary Academy Award winner, TCM collaborator, and American Film Institute awardee, Bruce Crawford, will be in to discuss movies with us.

So, big mic, let's march to the drenches.

Scotty?

And ship We need to retool and take some turf back The Hawkeyes and the Spartans now it's in our place at night on a primetime national broadcast network Scott can we recover?

from the bludgeoning the brutal Smackdown of our beloved Hawkeyes at Penn State couldn't get uglier than that and just before I go to that Scott

Let's start out with highlights.

This is a regular feature of our program.

And there you have it.

Those were the Iowa plays of the game from last week.

Scott and Chip taking away in riff.

You got to pull me up off the carpet here.

I'm still

I'm still in mourning from what happened last week.

Well, John, it's

early in the season.

It is the first big 10 game in the Kennex Stadium this year.

And it is a must win for Kirk Ferris, who's the Iowa Hawkeyes.

Ryan Ferris has been a lightning rod the last three years.

It has gone thermal nuclear as the last seven days.

Yeah, have you been on Twitter lately or ex?

Yeah, yeah.

So much with some heart bills and take a break from it.

But it is a national laughing stock and Ryan has to go ahead and he has to produce.

And we're at a point now where when there's people starting to talk about the potential of this could be the last year occurred.

All I know is the plans are still in place to continue as is.

We do have some contingency plans, and I think as we approach the season, even longer moving forward, that those plans will start laying out, being laid out immediately.

But this also falls on former athletic director Gary Barda.

Gary Barda said no, and it's, you know, now we are no longer under the Gary Barda regime.

Beth Getz is now the interim athletic director, and from all sources that I have,

She is a very strong individual as well as President Wilson and I think changes will be made at some point after the bowl game.

We're at a point now with the entire offensive scheme in Iowa.

Basically there needs to be wholesale changes because this is not a product worth putting on the field.

The Big 10 Network as well as our media partners, we're going to be bringing in north of $75 million a year moving forward.

We have spent millions of dollars in the NIL and to have the type of offense that we're putting out there consistently the last three years is just appalling.

Now I will say this, Ryan's calling a few years ago was he was at the offensive line and when he was at the offensive line we were putting together some of the great offensive linemen in the NFL and so

I think it's just one of those things where we need to go in a different direction.

Brian just needs to understand he's not a play caller, but he's a very good offensive line coach and there's nothing wrong with that.

When Brian, who was a very good offensive line coach, went up to offensive coordinator, George Barnett has taken over at offensive line coach.

It seems like we are struggling there a bit, Scott.

The talent is there, but it's just the execution and

You know, for many, many years, Kirk Farrance and the Iowa Hawkeye program were known for putting off tremendous offensive linemen.

Robert Gallery will be honored Saturday night in the ring of honor there at Kennedy Stadium.

He was the number two draft pick by the Raiders way back when Tristan were just a tremendous offensive lineman.

He was down there at Tampa Bay blocking for Tom Brady.

And the list goes on and on.

Ryan Balaga and so many other people.

And so we've had a basically a factory of tight ends, defensive players and offensive linemen.

But the last three to four seasons has not lived up to the Iowa standard and there needs to be changes.

Well, all I know is Scott, I'm working with vendors right now on a major project for the bank.

uh... trust area right now and and they are housed out of pennsylvania nissan brutal uh... because it gets the point where it is becoming a national joke i hate to say and i'd like to get the vantage point of a long-suffering husker and cyclone fan here our own our very own chip reidman chip can you do a little diagnostic on this i don't know how you fix this the playbook is uh...

Neanderthal and I don't see that line miraculously congealing at this point and good grief.

We know we've got Kate McNamara who can throw down the field and we're not throwing more than five yards down the field and the wheels are coming off this offense and they really have been for three years.

Well, Scott touched on it briefly and I guess I want to highlight that a little bit.

You mentioned about the NIL and, you know, the millions that I was getting on that.

And the

unfortunate fact is, and this is not a slam at all on Kirk.

I'm sure Kirk's doing everything he can to put a good team out on the field, but this goes back to Barda and his handling of the NIL.

And what I fear is

that Iowa basically has fallen behind on the recruits.

They have probably not gotten some players that they would have gotten in the past because they've been lagging so much in the NIL and they're just, they're trying to play catch up.

And don't get me wrong, I think they're doing a good job.

I think, you know, the swarm beer and that kind of stuff is a good effort.

But I'm just concerned here behind the eight ball.

Maybe

a year

ago we talked about numbers, Alabama average.

It pays like $100,000 for their football players.

I mean, that's a whole team average.

Nebraska was sitting at $20,000.

I mean, that's one fifth of what Alabama does.

And Iowa was paying roughly $10,000.

They were

half of Nebraska.

And at some point, that's going to catch up.

And maybe what you're seeing on the field is the product of Bartha and his lack of understanding what NIL means, what it can do to a team.

Do you think that's a plausible explanation, Scott?

I do.

I think there's several issues.

Unfortunately, there's not one magic bullet when it comes to the offensive schemes at Iowa.

You know, and I've said this for many, many years.

Kurt Berners has been doing this for 25 years at Iowa.

You know, he was an offensive line coach under the great Hayden Frye.

Even when we had Ken O'Keeffe as offensive coordinator, when we had quarterbacks like Brad Banks, Ricky Stanzi, Drew Tate, you know, even Greg Davis when we had C.J.

Bether, we had dynamic mobile quarterbacks.

But at the end of the day, Kurt Ferenc's philosophy as a head football coach has always been to win with special teams, a strong defense, and basically a

average offense.

And so, unfortunately, what we've seen, especially the last couple of games that I won in the last few years, is that once there's a penalty or once there is a play for zero yards or even negative yards, it basically throws the entire system out the window for that entire drive.

They're just not enough horses to get over those issues.

And so,

You know, Kirk is what he is.

At the end of the day, I've always said this, and I will say this to the very end.

If I had a son and he was going to play football, I would want him to play for Kirk Farron and the Iowa Hawkeyes.

Because I knew Kirk was up.

He's a man of his integrity and a man of his word.

But unfortunately, he's in a situation now because Brian's son and Gary Abarda allowed this hiring to move forward.

that, unfortunately, Brian will now tarnish Kirk's legacy as the Iowa Hawkeye.

It's just a fascinating as we see the transition of eras at Iowa.

It's not been without commotion at Iowa over the years.

Obviously, when Evie left, it was a tough transition through Jerry Burns.

Jerry Burns, one of the great

coaches in america the vikings the packers uh... but at the it at iowa uh... after evie as often as the case after legendary coach evie with three national titles uh... burns ended up with some losing seasons you had the tug-o-war between then athletic director evishevsky and ray nagle when ed pollack and larry lorenz were playing for the hawkeyes then you have those

brutal years of trying to find head football coach Frank Lauterber and Bob Cummings did not work out.

We've had this wonderful stability, but Scott, even Hayden Fry's last year, I saw his last win and Tim Dwight masked a lot of problems that Iowa had the prior year.

They went to a bowl game

Because Tim Dwight was such a phenomenon but that final year after going three and three the Hawks lost five straight and I don't want to see the program get to a point where This offensive stagnation puts us in the second division For a while until we get things beefed up.

Do we have time to write this ship?

There is time to write the ship.

The schedule is very favorable for Iowa as we go down the stretch here.

The West is wide open, but as I said earlier this year on this program, it is imperative that Kirk Farrance and the Iowa Hawkeyes win the West this year because next year...

The Big 10 is going away with divisions, and we are onboarding UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Washington.

The schedule, they get so much tougher.

We're seeing what's going on in Illinois.

That's the program on ascendancy.

Matt Rule, I think he will turn Nebraska around.

So the entire conference is getting tougher.

And that is why Kirk has to make hay right now.

And I know he understands there's a lot of pressure out there too.

And he's as frustrated as everybody else.

But at the end of the day, you said it.

And I think it's also important to highlight one of Hayden Fry's most important prerequisites of hiring anybody to be an assistant coach in Iowa when he was there.

is that he said he only hired people that wanted to go on to be head coaches.

And he proved that with Kirk Farron, Dan McCartney, the Stoopses.

Uh, you know, Alvarez, Snyder, the list goes on

and on.

Scott, they were all on the sideline with Hayden, my first three years of law school at Iowa.

Little did I know, but literally, I think there were about eight division one head coaches on the sideline during the long Vlasik Heartlebe era.

You know, absolutely.

And the reason I bring that up is, don't get me wrong, we've had tremendous coordinators under Kirk Fears, Bill Parker,

Norm Parker, their defenses are going to be legendary in the big cannon Iowa moving forward.

But Warren Woods is a tremendous special teams coach.

A lot of people are thinking he could be a coach at Iowa and the head man here in a few years.

It's possible.

I don't know where that's going to go yet.

I have a different idea of where we need to go.

But I mean, so we are seeing that.

But the coaching tree is so important, Schiffriedman.

When it comes to the big 10, as well as a program like Iowa, the NIL turned everything around.

It basically said that now a program like Iowa, even though it's a traditional rebuilding program, taking two and three star guys and then

putting together great teams and putting them in the NFL.

It changed the entire dynamic where it is a must win immediately for a lot of these teams.

Chip, we're going to give you the final word in this segment before we head into the political potpourri.

Chip, your final egress here.

Your Huskers looked good last week.

I saw them put together some impressive long drives on the ground.

Do you have a quarterback controversy there?

I think you ought to stick with Harburg.

I think we

are going to stick with him.

Finishing up on what Scott said is regarding the importance of the season.

You're absolutely right.

On your schedule, you've only got one ranked team, except for maybe Wisconsin which was ranked, another not, and if they keep winning they'll be back in ranked because Illinois seems to be down, Michigan State is obviously struggling.

Yes, it's critical for Iowa to really get the ship turned around.

and start making some improvements and getting some wins going this season.

I'm looking at it from the same way from the last standpoint.

Matt Rule historically has always, it's always been a tough start for him.

Temple, Baylor, the first year was always a little bit of a struggle.

Bad losing seasons before he got it turned around.

Well, it's going to be hard to turn it around when you start throwing in USC, which is doing very well and hopefully, just throwing this out, but hopefully they can thump Colorado.

and give Coach Prime another lesson on humility.

Washington is very highly ranked.

They've got a Heisman quarterback for a candidate playing for them.

It is, and I don't know for sure if I haven't seen the schedules, but who are playing next year, but it's not going to be easy when you throw those four teams in there.

Actually, look at Oregon.

They just wiped out Colorado.

That beat Nebraska.

Luckily, I might have to throw in a little bit with four turnovers.

So yeah, it's gonna be critical our quarterback controversy It's interesting one comment I heard someone say when Harburg was announced as the starter For the third game because Sims was hurt it

was

and I was there It was interesting the amount of cheering that went on a little bit more than you probably would anticipate Because he was coming in and because it was not Sims.

It's amazing that The fans are so much quicker to

switch quarterbacks than what a coach will do and i think that was a typical case we're ready to move on from sims we're tired of of his turnovers and his struggles we wanted to see somebody new out there and harbury has done well he's maintained

he managed the game beautifully no turnovers man he

really did and maybe some of that goes to the offensive coordinator on calling the right place for him

you know i don't know but to the the results of their on the field and he's looking good uh... but that's how we've got a heck of a test coming up with michigan uh... from what i'm understanding but michigan they've not scored a lot of points this season it's not because harbors has been you know absent because he's uh... taken that suspension self-imposed suspension they grind the ball which would you which you know we've seen they grind the ball

shembeckler

ball

Oh, it is.

They control it.

You're not going to get the ball.

And Nebraska is kind of doing the same thing.

They're taking their time out there.

This could be a game where maybe there won't be 100 plays total for both teams in the game.

because everything is just going to get dragged out with the new clock rules this year.

Chip Reidman

just,

Chip Reidman, just remember Tom Brady, now that he's officially retired from the NFL, still has that final year of eligibility left at Michigan.

He could play QB for Harbaugh.

Yes, he could, but not this Saturday.

Guys, what a great first quarter.

We're heading into our second quarter here right away as we pull up Harry Mancini Decision 2024, the

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It was Fox News.

It should be a shame to the product that they put out.

I mean it was horrible Yeah, I've seen Kenny Gardner recesses under more control than what they what that debate was it it was a disservice not only to Republican voters, but to the entire country

Can you imagine Ronald right?

Can you imagine just a digression here?

Can you imagine John F Kennedy or Ronald Reagan?

being literally humiliated would they have even subject

themselves to that ridiculously stupid format.

And you know, I just thought, I thought, I thought it was the worst debate panel I have ever seen in my life.

And I blame them all.

Varney, Perino, and Calderon.

I thought they were terrible.

You know, absolutely.

And I often are reminded of what happened back in the 1980 debate up in New Hampshire with Ronald Reagan.

He had his

microphone cut off and then he stole the show by saying that he paid for that microphone and everything.

The true winner of the night was the people who did not watch the debate and Donald Trump, because had Donald Trump been there, it would have been a middle school dance hopped up on Mountain Dew.

It was just pointless, Chip Riedman.

Chip, take it away.

I mean, do you agree?

I thought it was just...

I thought it de-elevated every single one of the seven up there, especially when they started sniping with each other.

Nikki Haley at one point reminded me of Harry Mudd's wife in an old Star Trek episode, Hector-ing and nagging him.

I don't think she came off well and Mike Pence and Chris Christie

What in the hell are those guys even doing in the race other than they're a spite to her against Donald Trump who thumped them and humiliated them in his own inimitable way?

I did like her line when Tim Scott bring it on.

He started criticizing her.

Yeah, she had the I think someone called the school marm look going on.

Every

divorcee's first wife.

Every divorcee's first wife is who she reminded everybody

of.

Yeah, I'm really like Fox Business.

I do watch it regularly.

I really like Barney.

I

do

watch his program because I just like his demeanor and the people he has on.

And I was incredibly disappointed in what they did.

There was so little talk because it's Fox Business.

You think they'll be talking about the

economy,

business.

I mean, people threw in things about regulations and stuff, but it was like side notes.

I think they really dropped the ball on the topics that they should have been talking about.

The kitchen table conversations that people discuss,

it

all comes down to money.

It's the economy, stupid.

And I just do not understand why they completely missed that.

I'll

go further.

I'll

go

further Fox Corporation now, solely under the leadership of Lachlan Murdoch.

Scott Corey.

I think the whole... John, before

you go there, Fox Business is not under that leadership.

Fox Business is separate from Fox News, from everything that I've read.

That is a

true...

That's a true... You

have to go the same line like Fox News does, at least not to the great extent.

That is a true statement, but they still got rid of Lou Dobbs, and they're still under that Fox corporate mantle.

And Scott, I believe...

that whole two hours was basically a reach out to Univision, to Univision, to mainstream all of that audience because Ms.

Calderon was a one-trick pony focused her entire line of questioning almost on trying to guilt and shame Republican candidates for taking a traditional approach

toward national sovereignty and border control.

Fox has got an agenda.

At best, I consider them now to be controlled opposition.

They are, and I think you're starting to see a lot of Republicans not as unified about Fox as they were even three to four years ago, especially with the treatment of so-called conservative commentators like...

I would say Bill Riley as well as Tucker Carlson.

Obviously Bill Riley had his own demons to deal with.

But

Greta Van Susteren, there's a parade of excellent contributors that have been marginalized or cut completely out of the Fox mix.

They sure have been.

And that's why you're seeing organizations like Newsmax and other programs starting to take more and more shape, especially in conservative circles.

But the entire debate was a huge disservice.

As you mentioned, some of the questioning was basically in order to shame and embarrass.

Republicans for standing up for traditional American values, such as a secure border, things along those lines.

And that was appalling.

That was the kind of stuff you'd expect to see at an MSNBC or CNN just a few years ago, but not on a Fox network.

But at the same time, the candidates themselves did a disservice as well to themselves.

Like you mentioned, the Haley Scott confrontation, you had the Vivek

our confrontation basically with everybody at the same time.

And I think a debate would have been better off had they done it in two nights with just a handful of people at each debate.

And that would have allowed for more free-flowing information and ideas.

What we had on Wednesday night was just a total embarrassment.

Well, Scott, here's what concerns me.

I'm a lifelong Republican, lifelong conservative.

I've rarely voted for a Democrat, certainly never for president, but I've got to tell you.

haven't spent significant time around Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

because he and I are so simpatico on the pandemic and the lockdown debacles of the last several years of the censorship issues.

Scott, he is a giant among lily-putions intellectually and in terms of comportment and demeanor and his knowledge of history.

is jarring to me how inferior this field of Republican candidates is.

I hate to say it, but in terms of being a glib and being able to articulate as much as I'm philosophically totally opposed to Gavin Newsom, he would run laps around that sorry field we saw the other night in that type of an environment.

Chip, your take, and then back to Scott.

I guess I'm not so quick to throw these people out.

Obviously there's some of them I'm not impressed with Chris Christie, Mike Pence.

I heard one comment.

Someone said there's a reporter room outside or on the side when everyone was done with their, with the debate.

And as they, as the speakers left, the reporters would, you know, glom on to each person as they came by, because apparently the room that they walked by was where the reporters were at.

And the interesting thing was when Pence walked by, no one wanted to talk to him at all.

I don't think these people are that bad, John.

Gavin Newsom is full of hot air.

He's a snake oil salesman.

He lies through his

skin.

Oh, I agree.

He's

terrible.

If you want to say that it's going to be difficult to argue with a guy that's going to lie all the time, yeah, I would agree with that because it's hard to...

to debate anyone that's going to come out and say anything that's going to try and get a rise out of people.

But I think there's some capable people there.

I think one comment that I heard was that anyone looked presidential.

And the feeling that I got from what I heard, the dissonance was probably the closest to it.

Nikki Haley, yeah, she had her moments and she didn't look good.

But, you know, I would put her easily ahead of any of the Democrats that are out there.

Tim Scott, I think, has got some very good qualities about him.

Chip

I'm telling you though I

young this problem

chip I run around with the group though, and it's a not insignificant part now of the Republican Party Who is tired of the war profiteering neocon military industrial complex slavery?

That the Republican Party has been enlisted into and you've got Christy Pence and Haley at least who seemed

hellbent on getting us into what ultimately will end up being a nuclear war russia

i don't disagree with that they've all got their points or their opinions that that is going to be their downfall down the road but you know i'm looking at the person in whole in total

yeah

you know there are they do have some good qualities about and that

You know, don't entirely scare me.

Yeah, Haley in Ukraine, that one definitely is a big red flag to me.

Scott, to me, Chip makes some great points, Scott.

Scott, it looked to me as one container said, like a Republican debate from 2015.

before Trump and the Rand Paul folks galvanized and said, quit being the party of perpetual war.

It looked to me like we had the old Bush neocons up there, re-infiltrating the party.

That's what looked to me the other night.

That's what I thought was so terribly disappointing about the substance and the debate, Scott.

Well, I think it's a conversation that the Republican Party has every 20 to 30 years.

We had it back in 63-64 with Goldwater talking about how he would handle Vietnam.

Then there was the whole issue of Ronald Reagan running against then Gerald Ford in 76.

you know or talking about the content how to deal with the soviet union and then we have the entire reagan foreign policy during the eighties where the establishment was that i thought the ronald reagan on how he thought he could win the cold war right right in it well so now

We are seeing, you know, then in 2000, we had the Bush-formed policies of intervention in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other

provinces

around the globe.

And all those chickens are coming home to roost.

So this is a conversation the Republicans have every 20 to 30 years.

And it's an important conversation.

But right now, if you look at the polling numbers and you look at just the optimism of a certain candidate, it's clear that America first

type foreign policy that is enunciated by Vivek Ramashami as well as Rand Paul and even Donald Trump, that is still the majority galvanizing opinion of today's Republican Party.

Guys, great conversation.

In just a minute, we're going to bring in a little bit of entertainment into the third quarter.

as Bruce Crawford will be joining us.

As many of you know, Iowa is the home of the late great John Wayne.

Marion Morrison, the iconic motion picture actor, still ranked as America's favorite leading man and symbolic of America itself and the values of great American

As exceptionalism John Wayne is emblematic of that and Bruce Crawford On the other side of Iowa is bringing through a great event Bruce is I call him impresario raconteur.

He brings Hollywood to our region twice a year there in the Omaha Council Bluffs area on the other river of Iowa for these great classic

film events.

Bruce, of course, with his own honorary Oscar is memento from the John Wayne family of a replica of the congressional medal that John Wayne earned that was bestowed by Jimmy Carter, President Carter, and also TCM collaborator Turner Classic Movies.

Bruce also an American film institute awardee.

Let's bring in that Ben Hur music for him, Mike Shane, because Bruce is also considered

the leading authority today on America's most honored motion picture ever, Ben Hur, A Tale of the Christ.

11 Academy Awards, the wonderful Charlton Heston version.

Bruce, welcome back to show.

Our studio audience is delighted to have you and Bruce.

You've got an incredible event coming up.

Talk to us about it, because we have people from Central and Eastern Iowa.

We have people from other states that drive into Omaha for your big event.

And this is our 50,000 Clear Channel Enterprise here that goes to about 15 Midwest states.

What do you got cooking and when, Bruce?

Well, take this one on sale two days ago.

And for my 60th anniversary tribute,

to the john wane marina harrah stephanie powers classic mclintock all mclintock i love mclintock it's a masterpiece of comedy and western

fun you know it's uh... one of my favorite john wane movies scott kory it has a little bit of a mojo from the uh... uh... the quiet man in terms of the chemistry uh... between duke wane

and Marina O'Hara and that rivalry chemistry that befitted them so well in several movies and essentially it's a redo of the taming of the shrew.

So Bruce, talk a little bit about the specifics of this movie.

You're having it.

at the legendary Omaha Community Playhouse, which for our Iowa listeners is just on the Council Bluffs side of the state there along the Missouri River.

Talk about the site of your event, Bruce.

Yes, it's the largest community theater actually in the United States.

And it's got two theater out of times, one about 150 seats.

The Drew Theater and then the one we use which is the Hawks main stage there's got 600 seats So it's a pretty big theater and we bring in a 50-foot motion picture screen and full digital projection and Stereophonic sound DTS sound is just incredible.

It's as nice as any movie theater in the country when we do that and we're gonna be doing it for the Fantastic 60th anniversary tribute to John Wayne and Marina Herra

and Stephanie Powers in McClintype.

We're going to have Stephanie Powers coming in.

She's

coming in.

Stephanie Powers herself.

Wow.

A lot of people know her from so many roles, including the television series Heart to Heart of more recent Vintage, but she was a very beautiful young, probably only 20, 21 years old when that movie was made.

Or maybe even younger, like 18 or 19.

Wow.

Wow.

And yes, drop dead, beautiful, absolute.

She still is.

Bruce Crawford here with us.

Bruce, the date of your event.

What is the

date?

or your smartphone, it takes you right there and you can buy tickets online, easy peasy.

This is great, so repeat again the phone number and the online.

Yes, it's 402-399-9565, but even easier to go online to www.almohawkristianacademy.org in a foreslash movie and just type that in and take it right there and you can buy

As many tears as you want, 30 bucks a piece, and it's all online.

And I have to tell you, in the first 12 hours, we've already sold one fourth of our seats already.

Wow.

And it sounds like you're going to have a great panel conversation.

You'll be conducting it along with actress Stephanie Powers and our own Brian Downs from the John Wayne Museum there in Winterset, not far away.

That's right.

Stephanie and I will be on stage and Brian will be with us.

We'll be on either side of her on stage with our microphones, having her tell stories, reminiscing about working with John Wayne and Marina Heron.

Of course, she's had an incredible career with Robert Wagner for many years, hard to hard on TV.

She's very accomplished, but we'll focus, of course, on Cease the University of this movie.

And Brian will come from the John Wayne angle, and I'll come from all the other angles.

Of course, we'll take questions from the audience, but I'm sure you'll have some questions when you're there, too.

Wow.

Wow.

This is so awesome.

Bruce, you have people coming in from all over the U.S.

for your events, don't you?

Yes, I have.

And like I said, with this buying tickets online makes it even easier for people to come from far away.

I know at least one couple I know that are coming in from Nashville, Tennessee for this.

Wow.

Well, Bruce, while we have you here, we're going to continue to promote this.

So which day in October again?

Friday, October 27th, 7 p.m.

So Friday 10 20 Friday, October 20 at

location.

I want community playoffs and address is 59 18 15 6 9 15 Cass Street in Omaha

easy to get to guys easy to get to wonderful acoustics there Bruce while we have you here the passing of two

uh... actors uh... this weekend of legendary stuff you knew one of them david mccallum uh... who i remember

From the man from Uncle, my daughter remembers him more as Ducky from NCIS.

My daughter's a big David McCallum fan.

She's been to a lot of your events.

She's also a big Michael Gambon fan because she loved Double Door in the Harry Potter series.

Michael Gambon also passed and I thought he was great as Inspector May Gray on the British

television and and u.s.

pbs series may gray a reflection a bit on those two for us bruce crofford

well yes i know more about uh... uh... david and i do michael because i knew i knew david and he was my guest can't believe it will be ten years this november when i hosted the fifty anniversary of the great escape one of david's early movies and big success

yes

david david was my guest for that

I can't remember if you were there or not, John, for that event.

They've all been so wonderful, Bruce.

The thing about these great Bruce Crawford events is all the ancillary memorabilia, reenactments, costumes.

It is truly an experience, Bruce Crawford.

Yours is like nothing other.

You bring, literally, Hollywood to Iowa and Nebraska twice a year like nobody else can do.

It's bringing classic Hollywood.

You've got to be specific about today's Hollywood.

That's true.

Your impressions of McCallum?

You got to spend time with him as he came to your event.

Very humble, man.

Very humble.

And I remember when I picked him up at the airport, we drove back to the hotel.

We had great talk.

And I spent quite a bit of time with him.

He's just a very down-to-earth, very modest, unassuming person, but a very famous impairment.

You see who he is instantly.

He's a very recognizable actor.

and uh... i grew up watching him even in the sixties as a kid watching his performance in the classic tv series at the outer limits which is actually sixty years ago this this fall yeah

mike shane's pulling up all sorts of cool stuff on youtube we might hear some man from uncle theme music even before we get done with this so uh...

but the great escape though was a big breakthrough role for him yeah the great escape as a result of the success of the great escape that's how you got offered to be on the man from uncle just a year later

And then, of course, Ducky, for almost 20 years, the forensic investigator for Mark Harmon there at NCIS, Dave McCallum, who passed away at 90 this week, he was in this series as late as last year.

He was in the penultimate, the final episode last year, albeit by remote.

He started to take a decelerated role in the series for about the past two years, but boy, what a vigorous life he had.

He

just turned 90 a week ago.

One week after his 90th birthday.

It's very poignant.

His wife, who is 80, he's been married to her for many, many, many years.

To show you how young at heart this couple was, she told her daughter how much she regretted that they would not be able to grow old together.

This said by an 80-year-old woman married to a 90-year-old man.

That shows a youth at heart, doesn't it, Bruce Crawford?

Evidently, yes.

I'd say David did grow old at 90.

He did.

That was a good run.

It was a good run.

And Michael Gambon had a great run, too.

You know, it, uh, you look at, at the role of, oh, listen, there that is.

That's the music.

I know.

Ilya Karukin.

What was his name, Mike Sheen?

Ilya.

There he, see Bruce Crawford knows all.

Exactly.

Well done, Bruce.

Um, so Michael Gambon took over.

for the last six of the eight Harry Potter movies.

Who is the great British actor?

Was it Richard Harris who died after the first two roles as Dumbledore?

Right.

And Michael Gammon comes in.

Of course, I remember Ms.

Inspector May Gray.

I love those PBS.

that we imported for Britain, those as a great French detective, but Gambon was able to pull that roll off from movies three to eight almost seamlessly, showed you what a consummate pro he was.

Absolutely.

Yeah, these British talents are just nothing like them really.

And

how iconic to be so enmeshed now with a legendary ongoing successful series, Michael Gambon at 90.

Bruce, let's get back to our own Iowa-born and bred John Wayne.

What accounts for the pervading significance of John Wayne?

He's still so relevant and so beloved.

today why what what accounts for that do you think bruce crawford

to hard to put your finger on that because he's in god forty four years yes here we are here we are doing uh... jbc university tribute to with his most popular pictures mclintock and of course we have seventy powers coming but we've sold literally one fourth of our ticket sold in less than twelve hours while we really want four years that system that's what public they just won't let go

Well, no one does John Wayne movies like Bruce Crawford.

Bruce, I think one of your most fabulous events ever was when you screened what I believe to be the finest Western and one of the five best movies ever made, in my opinion, The Searchers.

That was a magnificent event.

You had AC Lyles come in.

You had the song group.

Doing the green leaves of summer and oh my goodness.

What a great event that was the John Wayne Society people were out there Bruce you're seamlessly connected with Iowa between John Wayne and So many of our other Pivot points that have gone on to Hollywood from Iowa not not least of whom is down a read You also did a tribute and it's a wonderful life some years

ago.

Absolutely.

Yes

It's just amazing the connection of course of Malim Brando's from the Midwest to you know I did the Godfather had Brando's children come back for it, which was the first time in history the family Brando families ever made a public appearance anywhere

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and Bruce you've had to Dwyer Brown back for field of dreams You gave Iowa shot in the arm with that huge screening of field of dreams You've had Warren Buffett show up for that one sitting next to me I didn't even know it which is probably good because if the lights had gone up and I'd seen and we'd probably not agreed on

politics

Bruce, I can't wait to go to this with all my friends.

We're going to be there, and you and Stephanie and Brian Downs, that is a Troika worth listening to.

That's a bonus on top of the movie, Big Time.

Yes, and she'll be doing a meet and greet and autographing in the lobby after the movie as well.

So it will be quite a night.

And I'm encouraging people if they want to come dressed in western wear from like that, from the 1880s, please do so.

If you have a cowboy hat, you gotta take it off when you're watching the movie, because you don't want to block the vision from somebody behind

you.

Can I dress as Strother Martin, maybe, Bruce, and talk in my vocal fry?

And you gotta go, I'll get it, Liberty.

Oh, October 20, Saturday night, Omaha Community Playhouse, be there.

And you can re-listen to these phone numbers.

and addresses and how to's on our podcast, you just need to type in kxel.com slash Jacobson, J-A-C-O-B-S-E-N, relisten to this show.

as Mike Shane plays these great John Wayne soundtracks in the background and get this information listener Bruce talk to us once again studio audience applause for Bruce Crawford joining us again today Bruce is going to join us on our other two networks here over the course of the next week so Bruce you and I'll be talking at it again very soon sounds great thank you so much

You're welcome, Bruce Crawford, ladies and gentlemen.

Well, now we're ready for the fourth quarter as we bring in the lovely and gracious Barbara Haymes Bryant to put a punctuation mark on this great hour.

Mike Shane, one of my favorite times of the week is when we get to visit with the lovely and gracious Barbara Haymes Bryant, the matriarch of Haymes Holmes, this wonderful multi-generational

business that provides safe, affordable, and beautiful homes for so many thousands, thousands of residents in Southwest Sea Rapids, and there are two beautiful communities there.

And you know it's the Hames Venture when there's that salute of colors, not just old glory, and to our beautiful state of Iowa, but to our POWMIAs, never forgotten.

That's the legacy of Curt and Norma Hame's heroic World War II vets that met during wartime and built this beautiful family that perdures to this day that carries on custodially a business that continues to grow and improve and grab technology and become bigger and better and more beautiful and safer.

and more affordable in the context of these lovely neighborhoods.

And so the studio audience welcomes Barbara back today.

They're always very thrilled to see Barbara and to hear her.

And of course, Barbara's quite the civic steward.

She heads up for the entire state of Iowa, the Republican Federation of Iowa, the Federation of Iowa Republican Women.

And Barbara, you've seen so many of the presidential candidates come in.

It is so great to be part of Iowa.

When I travel to Kansas, when I travel to different parts of the country, Missouri, wherever, everybody always wants to know what's going on in Iowa.

Well, Barbara, there's something really neat going on with your homes there is on the side,

You guys play Good Samaritan.

You had a beautiful write-up that people are talking about how you helped someone in distress and even brought in some of our officers to help and how grateful they were to you for helping this poor woman.

Do you want to talk about that a little bit?

Good morning, John.

Good morning, Mike.

It's always a pleasure to talk to you.

And yes, my brother and sister and I, Troy, Cynthia, and Barbara Haynes, we all feel like we're carrying on our parents' excellent legacy of hard work and loving our neighbor.

The incident you're talking about happened a couple of weeks ago.

There was a homeless woman sitting across the street from one of our manufactured home communities and one of our employees.

walked over and asked her if she was okay.

And she said, yeah, she was just resting that she didn't have any place to live.

So it just happened to be the morning of a Friday morning senior breakfast.

So some of the folks at the senior breakfast brought her a plate of food and officer Mike Dunkelberg was there.

And he gave her the food and water and made sure that she was okay.

And somebody happened to be driving by.

Now, we don't brag about being good Samaritans.

It's not what Jesus wants us to do.

But this woman was so impressed with what she saw of our residents and the police officer being kind to this woman that she called back to our office and thanked us and complimented us and said it reinvigorated her faith in humanity.

Barbara, you always give me faith in humanity.

I'll tell a story on Barb, guys, because

I was chatting the other day and someone mentioned that he had just married off his daughter and that he noticed some of the bridal party, you know, we're checking the guests and they had some wedding crashers at the party.

It was a man and a woman and the daughter and obviously they needed a meal and they got

caught so to speak at one point when they realized this person knew nobody in the wedding party and you know it's interesting because they said well couldn't we stay our little six-year-old daughters having such a wonderful time and of course they relented and Barbara put the she dotted the eye and crossed the T Barbara you said

Well, what would Jesus do?

And I'll tell you, I'll do business with anybody that uses that as their base point, Barbara, and you just said it moments ago, you know, what would Jesus do?

And frankly, I'm going to patronize people that have that Christian worldview of the golden rule of

Loving neighbor, you know Barbara, so I salute you your dad mom were like that you are a chip off the proverbial old block

Well, thank you.

I guess the nicest compliments you could have given me We definitely try to do great things for our residents.

We try to go above and beyond For example, we have a food pantry It started after the derecho when we realized that the necessities of life were

food and shelter and safety.

A lot of people didn't have any food because the power was out.

Exactly.

And

all the

food was spoiling in the refrigerator.

So we put together a makeshift food pantry and it's grown into a full-sized food pantry now at our Summit View office at 100 Hayne Street, Southwest.

And it serves almost 4,000 people every month.

Do you hear that, ladies and gentlemen?

4,000, 4,000 people fed by these good folks.

That's just phenomenal, Barbara.

There's well-disability requirements.

Anybody can come.

The amount of food you can take is based on your household size.

It's open on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

and our wonderful community coordinator, Kelly Hitchman, oversees the whole thing with volunteers and picking up food and making sure that we're compliant with all food safety laws.

She's just an angel and we're glad to have her.

She's doing God's work.

Scotty, Corey, you're an ag man and isn't it something in the Iowa DNA, whether it's Norman Borlaug or

Herbert Hoover or Barbara Hames, feeding people who need food.

That's such an Iowa thing, isn't it, Scott?

You know, it sure is.

It talks a lot about the Iowa NICE and everything along those lines.

And it's people like Barbara that really are the backbone, not only of Iowa, but of the country.

And that's what makes America great.

It's the folks in our small towns.

It's our folks in our medium and larger cities.

They go above and beyond to help those that are less fortunate, but also do so without seeking the limelight and praise going forward, because that's also what a lot of islands are all about as well.

They don't need that limelight and praise.

They just want a job well done.

Well, it is interesting to me that going back in my even recent memory, when every

U.S.

Senate or gubernatorial or congressional candidate came in presidential candidates came in The one who held court in erstwhile years was Kurt Ames and Cedar Rapids.

He was the the godfather of Civic stewardship and Barbara they're now flocking to you.

You had up this great organization

the Iowa Federation of Republican Women, it's got to be exciting for you to be able to have some input on the ultimate leader of the free world that Iowa gets to begin that process of vetting and winnowing.

It's a lot of fun to be in Iowa during caucus season, and yes, I have met a number of the presidential candidates, and if you ask me which one I like best, I will tell you all of them.

Good answer!

because any of them are better than what we have in the White House right now.

Yes, yes.

I'm not sure that I actually get the winnow down the favorite, but what I do get to do is welcome them all to Iowa.

Iowa is such a great state and we are so welcoming and we just enjoy talking to these presidential candidates and we love the attention that it brings Iowa.

Good national press.

Good international press.

I've had interviews with a couple of TV stations, one in Australia and one in Holland.

Wow.

So they're all very interested in what's going on in Iowa.

And I'm happy to talk to them and give our Iowa point of view.

And hey, if you're a presidential candidate, come on to Iowa.

We'd love to meet you.

Well Barbara, we're happy to get the chance to visit and talk with you each week Please tell us you guys got to see these beautiful neighborhoods You've got to drive through them the the lighting the the great surfaces of the streets the the dog park the frisbee golf the manicured lawns the safe the safely patrolled neighborhoods Barbara

Can you please give us a website, a phone number, and an address so folks can get in

contact with you?

West Post Road, and our office is there on the southwest corner.

Our phone number is 319-377-4863.

It's our old Miriam phone number, 319-377-4863.

Oh, it's

been a joy.

Another Saturday.

Let's go hawks tonight.

Thanks, Barb Hames Bryant.

And special kudos to Mike Shane, our

engineer of magnificence.

This show sounds so great because this guy is the Wunderkind who just does all things well as the ultimate radio editor.

John Jacobson here for the Jacobson group.

Thanks Scott, Cory and Chip Reedman calling on mobile units one and two today.

Thanks always to Barbara Hames Bryant.

Special guest star Bruce Crawford, what an awesome John Wayne event coming up October 20.

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