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KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - July 8, 2023
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this wonderful summer Saturday throughout the state of Iowa, but particularly eastern Iowa.
Waterloo, Cedar Rapids, the beginning of the second century of 50,000 clear channel wattage, caroming across the Midwest in all the big 10 states.
On 1540 AM, 100.5 FM, you're listening to the Jacobson group with John Jacobson here, yours truly, Scott Corey.
Mike Shane and a bevy of special guests today Mike we got to bring in the engineers ringtone here because we're gonna be doing some serious news of fighting today and Scotty some of this rain is very welcome and I know that People are so desperate for rain that the mere fact that I'm that we're talking about today means you're gonna re listen to the podcast to hear
about more rain, you know, and the podcast KXEL.com slash Jacobson, the Viking Danish spelling J-A-C-O-B-S-E-N KXEL.com slash Jacobson.
And so we've got the trifecta, Scott.
We've got AM, FM, and we've got the podcast.
You are an agribusiness man, Scott.
This rain across Iowa that we've gotten over the last three or so days
It's not a panacea, but it helps it.
It advances the ball for us a little bit.
You know, absolutely, John.
And, you know, with the drought conditions that have been being updated weekly from the drought center, you know, the state of Iowa is in some pretty tough shape.
But this rain does make a huge difference.
Just for some of our listeners across the state of Iowa, they give an update on how dry it is in northwest Iowa, Woodbury County, which is Sioux City, Manona County, which is on a wall along the river there, as well as Cherokee and Cherokee.
County.
I was working with a guy a couple about a week ago here.
He's a well and repairman and had him out at our property in western Iowa about 40 miles east of Sioux City and the wells are going dry in those counties right now and I asked him how deep some of the wells are and he says they're about 150 to 200 feet deep and they're going dry so that's not a good sign.
and we actually had to pull our well and our well is at 340 feet deep and what was very surprising to him as well as myself is when we started pulling up the pipes and things like that you can tell the discoloration and so you can see the historical average kind of where the the pipe hits the aquifer and everything and it's about the aquifer is about six foot deep or excuse me six foot loss of of the water over the last three years in western Iowa due to the the drought conditions so every
thing is going to be very touch and go as we move forward.
I know we're going to talk with a lot of folks throughout the summer kind of a drought series so we kind of know what's going on throughout western Iowa and the state of Iowa and the ramifications but John every little bit of rain helps and you know I even hate to say it.
I was talking to a agronomist here about two weeks ago and I know we were in Iowa City in the Hills area.
And it was almost apocalyptic the way the smoke was from the Canadian fires.
But he told me that actually some of that smoke is actually good for the crops because they're pulling all that CO2 out of the air.
Fascinating.
It's always kind of an interesting conversation.
So, you know, we're not out of the woods yet.
Hopefully we keep the rain pattern moving forward.
But, you know, they call this a million dollar rain, but with inflation we're about a two million dollar right now.
Every rain is a million dollar rain.
Will Scott?
Uh, it's incredible the vicissitudes of weather.
Four years ago, I still think there's collective PTSD among my constituents.
Scott, you remember it well.
10 miles from Omaha, 30 feet underwater, Crescent, Loveland, Honey Creek, abject disaster, literally.
Yellowstone like cattle drives to prevent massive cattle drowning the reef brothers We're up by the Mormon bridge.
They're trying to get those cattle out of harm's way and now the precise opposite.
It's just Incredible what we deal with in in such a state that has such a variety of weather and climate
historically absolutely and even to kind of dovetail off that
you know up there in Woodbury County we have on our property you know my grandfather put a lot of tile in over the years and in the 80s and things like that and there's been tile that actually
even during the 88-89 drought that was always running.
This year it ran dry and
so that
was very concerning to
a lot of folks up
there and so it's going to take a long you know we don't need the storms like they had in California with all the heavy snow but we're going to need some heavy snow this winter to actually start recharging some of the aquifers as we go forward because in our neck of the woods they say we get the water out of the Minnesota as well as the Dakota aquifers.
So, as we move forward, it's going to be a long, long process, but Lord willing, we're going to break this drought yet.
Scotty,
I will tell you, growing up in eastern Iowa, I believe, because, you know, I would sample water when we would go to our relatives, Clinton, Dubuque, Iowa City.
There was no one who had the beautiful crystal clear
wonderful drinking water that Marion, Iowa had back when we were a town of 18,000 and 28 from that 1970 census.
It was artesian well water.
I used to bottle it up to take it down to Iowa City when I was going to law school down there.
And you know, going back to those Halcyonic days in the Marion area, you know, things have changed, but a few things are still the same.
Mrs. Jacobson is still living in Marion, my dear mother, with a 319-377-418 telephone number.
And Barbara Hames Bryant joining us.
You know, I remember the TV commercials from 71, Cracklin Rosie from Neil Diamond.
That's why we always play this theme.
Manufactured homes.
They're bigger than ever, Scott.
And condo and co-op owners are even taking a second look and saying, let's do manufactured homes.
Scott, you know me.
I'm tired of the HOA.
And let's find out a little bit more from Barbara.
Barbara Hames Bryant, welcome back to the show today.
And we're all grateful to the good Lord for some rain here these past three and four days.
Well, good morning boys.
It's great to talk to you and yes, we're grateful for the rain here and
Eastern Iowa too, it's so dry, the grass is so brown and my corn is puny and the beans are pathetic and I really would like a little rain cloud to come over here and rain on us.
Oh Barbara, I agree.
It brings back such fond memories.
I walked beans for farmer Ralph Blackford back there in 77 and we would get out there at five in the morning.
the Verhilli boys and me and Mike Riley and the Chafee sisters and Paul Harvey would be on a little transistor radio with Chicken Man.
We'd be out there with water and our tools and we would start walking those fields and by the time it was 11 a.m.
we got about six hours in Barbara.
I don't think people around the world or at least around America appreciate how hard farming is and how much work it is and
how hard farm kids work.
They can get so much work in before they even get on the bus to go to school.
You know, absolutely Barbara.
And you talk about hard work and work ethic.
Your family has got quite the work ethic going on right there over the last few generations, creating that great community there right there.
Talk to us a little bit about this new concept of the co-ops and things like that that people are starting to look at your homes again.
Thank you for asking condominiums, which are also called cooperatives.
It's just a little bit different type of legal structure.
Right, exactly.
Good point.
Mike Shane was telling us about that today.
You're exactly right, Barbara.
Continue.
Yes.
So folks are looking at that and they're looking at their HOACs, their homeowners association fees and their taxes.
Because remember, they own these properties, so they have to pay property taxes on it.
And they're going, hey, what?
Wait a minute.
This is getting way more expensive than I ever wanted it to be.
And I am so great that my homeowners association has a pickleball court and water aerobics at five in the morning every morning.
But what I really want is my own place.
So why don't I use that money to buy a beautiful, affordable, manufactured home, brand new, one year warranty all on one floor.
And I have my own little yard here.
not to say we don't have amenities at hands because we sure do, but we have the amenities people want, not the amenities that the homeowners association says that they want and have to pay for.
Well, you know, as we, you know, wrapping up the week, you know, it was the 4th of July and and John, he was out there kind of reenacting Mel Gibson in the Patriot against his homeowners association.
It was quite quite the comical scene here.
Yes.
I was begging for my manufacturer at home and Barbara, what's really nice is that we've had a little bit of a pause in interest rates and right now.
you know there was a jobs report this week that came out Friday morning not quite the robust numbers that they were looking for a little bit of a slowing and Scott I always chuckled because then they always revised downward a month later things are always worse than they appear
But the government has a way of blunting it by, oh, we'll make an adjustment next month.
But Barbara, what's great about the sweet spot with your pricing and your homes is at the price range of your homes.
Financing is incredibly affordable.
You've got financing and the rates
at the prices of your homes are very competitive.
For the first time since I can remember, the interest rates on manufactured homes are just about the same as the interest rates on site-built homes.
Normally site-built home rates are a little bit lower, a lot lower in the past, because manufactured home loans are smaller loans and they're shorter term, so they have a little higher interest rate.
But right now they're almost the same and it is
There's some great financing out there.
Not only front-end homes, we have our financing company called Circle Finance, but also Green State Credit Union and several other banks around town offering manufactured home loans.
So there's competition, so there's good prices.
Here with Barbara Hames Bryant, the matriarch of the wonderful communities.
She's de facto mayor of 3,000 Scott, and that's bigger than all the cities in my constituency with the exception of Council Bluffs there.
And it is just pristine and lovely and beautiful.
And she's exactly right.
You know,
Clint, the sales specialist out there at Hames, says, most manufactured homes have more room and cost less than a condo.
True on both points, I've sized up our condos.
Barber's places are much larger.
They essentially cost less.
And Clint also says, plus, the optional garage is right on the manufactured home site where it may be further away in a condominium complex.
Scott, I got to park the second car across the street in my condo complex, so Barbara's music to my ears right
now.
You know, absolutely.
And the best part about it too, Barbara, is that if people want to tour any of your homes online or make an appointment, they can just go to your website, can't they?
And schedule an appointment and move forward on this because, you know, time is of the essence right now and it's important to lock in these rates.
That is so true.
And our website is TamesHomes.com.
H-A-M-E-S-H-O-M-E-S dot com.
Simple, easy to remember.
We're also open seven days a week at our sales office, which is at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road, Southwest in Cedar Rapids.
So we're Wilson Avenue, West Post Road, Southwest Cedar Rapids.
And it's a vibrant area there, both residentially and commercially.
You're five minutes from anything and just a little over 10 minutes from the airport.
Barbara, because it's so nostalgic for me, tell folks your phone number where they can reach you guys also.
That's an oldie but goodie right out of Mary and almost identical to my dad's old dental practice phone number.
Fire away, Barbara.
I called it a Marion Legacy phone number.
It's 319-377-4863.
319-377-4863.
Guys, if you want to see beautiful landscaping and lawns, that is a pristine, beautiful area.
Tree laden, flags everywhere.
You know that if you drive through the Hames Homes community and you see that beautiful office building, Scott Old Glory is flying atop and is very welcome in that area.
That's another reason why we love the Hames family.
These are patriotic people that represent the very best of American free enterprise market economy, Scott.
because they have Christian
hearts.
You know, absolutely.
We all often joke that it's kind of a small community with a big heart because you're right there.
Barbara, you can be in downtown in just a matter of moments.
You're centrally located, but yet you have that small town, rural America, rural Iowa feel to it.
And you just can't put a price tag on that.
Our neighbors really care about each other.
They get to know each other.
It's a private community, so people have to apply and be accepted to live here.
So people know that they're neighbors.
were screened and there's not going to be a convicted felon or a sex offender.
And they're so comfortable just getting to know each other doing things together and looking out for each other.
That's incredibly important.
Scott is a grandfather.
They do safety vetting.
There are quality people there.
The bad guys are not allowed in.
I just give these guys five stars out of five stars in studio audience.
Barbara, they concur.
They say get to Hames.
Barbara, it's been a joy as always to visit with you this weekend.
We look forward to talking with you again next week.
You guys have a great weekend.
God bless Barbara Hames Bryant from Hames Homes, The Homes People.
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John Jacobson here with Scott Corey and Mike Shane on KXEL, the blowtorch.
Scott, Iowa is the epicenter of seemingly everything these days.
Not the least is which, which is picking the leader of the free world.
But antecedently to that, we have one of these once in a lifetime special sessions.
We've had them before, but usually they're based on validating redistricting lines once a decade.
We have a real special session going on in Iowa, convening of the legislature after Sineadie.
You know, I, I humor the locals because Sineadie is really seen a day if you're a true Latinist, but it means adjourning without further date.
But yes, they are back.
And Scott, I got to give you props.
You knew more than some of the so-called leader types did in the legislature.
You said.
three weeks ago, that there would be a special session right around July 10.
And as you read the newspaper accounts, oh, I don't I know nothing was what we were getting from the legislators.
You nailed the date within 24 hours, Scott.
There is a special session.
How come you know when it's going to be before the likes of some of our
maybe a big committee chair, one of our leadership in the GOP, House didn't even know what was going on.
Well, I think the difference is that...
you know, whether it's fortunate or not, or blessed or not, depends on your political point of view, you know, the people I talk with and consider friends and colleagues, we actually make decisions and we make, you know, policy.
And so, you know, these people, they got together, they saw what the Supreme Court had did and they decided we're going to act now.
I know
Steve Holt is chairman of the judiciary committee in the house, as well as Brent Seagrest, who is assistant leader from Council Blouse.
They were both in the Cedar Rapids paper saying they did not want a special session.
And my response to them was, yeah, that's not going to happen.
So we're going to push this thing through and make it happen.
The governor's called it for Tuesday, July 11th, I believe at 830 or 9 o'clock in the morning.
And for our listeners to
Since it is a special session, the parameters of the special session is all amendments have to be germane and it will be focused strictly around the heartbeat bill.
So that's kind of what they're going to discuss.
I am very confident there will be time certain constrictions put on this thing.
For debate length, for debate length.
And it'll be wrapped up sometime late Tuesday, maybe early Wednesday.
I think they have to do time certain in light of the fact now that Planned Parenthood has announced that they're going to encourage
large numbers of people to protest there.
Uh, I was there when this happened, uh, in 2021, uh, during that session and that, uh, summertime even, and frankly was confronted, uh, the love and gracious Mrs. Jacobson and I and Holly Brink and her daughter were confronted by four of us and 400 angry.
protesters that swarmed around us because we didn't get the memo to take the Batcave route to the governor's office for a signing.
And it was really ugly, Scott.
And when they were allowed on third floor during that entire session, they literally were blocking us from being able to leave our caucus.
in the library at that time because of all the COVID restrictions.
We had to have social distancing.
So we caucused in the library, not where we normally caucused in the old Supreme Court chambers there.
And we had to have the Iowa patrol literally form a phalanx so that we could get into chambers to vote.
And this is an unfortunate situation.
We saw how things
can get out of hand.
I hope cool heads prevail.
But Scott, you're right.
Segrist said, you know, he really didn't want or didn't prefer a special session.
He he didn't say he was against it.
But he said, maybe we should wait until regular session.
I totally disagreed with him on that.
And Holt basically just said he didn't know if there's going to be a special session or not.
Scott, are we in a likely situation?
where the donors are more proactive in telling the governor what she should do, and our leaders in the House, they were quiet still yesterday.
There weren't comments coming from the House and Senate leadership.
Sam Jones, I thought we were three co-equal branches of government here.
Where's the leadership at the legislative branch, Sam Jones?
You know, John, that's a good question.
Where is the
leadership?
And really, where is the legislative branch?
And I do find it just a little bit ironic that they're happening to come in for a special session in the middle of summer.
Well, they could have taken care of this in this last session.
Absolutely.
Just there's a little bit of irony here that they're missing their summer break or at least a day of their summer break Dealing with this when they could have just done their job this last session as some people were calling for them to do You know a lot of people were calling them to address this or even do a special session last year But I am glad that we're we're calling a special session Yes, yes when it comes to this What I don't understand is if you do understand this concept of the the equal branches
or the three branches of government, why the legislature here is taking it so much from the judicial branch.
I mean, if I were a legislator, even if this wasn't my position, now of course it is my position, but even if it wasn't my position, I think just to go and to show the judicial branch that, hey, you're not in charge, I would go and not do the heartbeat, but go and
and give life at conception and just kind of stick it in the the court's eye just a little bit here so that they can understand hey you guys are getting out of line you need to get back into your box and we'll stay in ours but that's one of the things that I don't quite understand here as to why our legislative branch takes it so much from the judicial branch and why the executive branch takes it.
you know where where is uh... thomas jefferson or uh... james madison who don't even show up to court uh... because they say hey look you can't enforce this uh... or uh... andrew jackson who you know says now let's see them and force it uh... kind of a thing towards the judicial branch that there was an understanding of uh... what art our government was supposed to look like in the past that doesn't seem to be there today
Here with Sam Jones, pastor and a businessman from Northwest Iowa, most recently from the Waterloo Cedar Rapids area.
Tim Grover with us from the Makaukura area.
Tim, I a year ago this summer after the Dobs decision, I called for a special session then because I knew we were going to need to pass a new law that the court would probably do what they did.
And if you read
what Waterman wrote about three weeks ago, basically it was, you guys needed to pass a new law.
You could have done it last December, you could have done it this session, and it's what I asked them to do, but they literally, until they're dragged kicking and screaming, Tim, why is there never any proactive action by these guys?
Well, the very atmosphere you're talking about that's going on in the legislature right now is the problem with it is that we let them come around the campaign.
And as long as they say that pro-life and pro-traditional marriage, two things that I have a record of supporting myself.
Yep.
You're a big time pro-lifer, pro-traditional marriage guy.
But I'm putting
your cards on the table for you.
Yep.
But we let them get away.
with not following that up on all the other issues.
So they know they can con us.
And when this happens, when they get away with this, this is what you have now where you have to have a special session because they are not even living up to what they told us they were when they campaigned and we voted for them.
So after seeing Sound of Freedom and
knowing that since 2008, the Southwest United States Attorney General's office has let this go on all this time.
I'm in the mode.
You have to be more than just pro-life and pro-traditional marriage.
You've got to be a fiscal conservative.
You've got to
listen to the people and be willing to serve them, not be served.
Tim Grover, we're going to talk about the sound of freedom, that incredibly important motion picture that Scott, I call it a minor miracle.
I looked up on box office mojo to verify this.
I saw it in various counts.
I saw it with my own eyes.
It beat Indiana Jones on July 4.
Total gate across the nation.
It had close to 15 million
Tickets sold to Indiana Jones's 11 million tickets sold.
There is still a remnants in this country fighting for what is right and This legislature better get it.
So Scott, I want to ask you and then I want to go to Tim and Sam I Know Tim has some ideas for amendments.
He'd like to see in this special session.
I know that Sam would like to go further
than just the heartbeat as would I go back even to life at conception.
Scott, I want you to set the table.
Your hearing is already decided.
They got a certain protocol.
Here's what they're going to look at now.
Here's what they're not going to look like.
Why don't you set the table?
And then I'd like Sam and Tim to come in with what they would like to see at this special session, July 11 in Iowa, the Capitol.
Sure.
And I also, you know, we'd be remiss too if I didn't say thank you to Governor Reynolds for calling for this.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Kudos, Governor.
Yep.
I've been very critical of her on this issue.
I know she's received a lot of pressure to call for it.
She did the right thing.
It wouldn't have happened without her.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And, you know, the reason I bring that up is because I'm often reminded that we talk about the lack of fortitude out of the legislature.
often reminded of the great quote from Winston Churchill.
And I'm gonna paraphrase it.
The Americans or the legislature will always do the right thing after they exhausted all alternatives.
And that's basically what happened is that they exhausted all alternatives and they had to come back.
So what I'm hearing is that...
Your sources are good.
You're on a roll.
I think you know more than the legislators do go, baby Well, I wouldn't be surprised if you know some of the legislators, but I don't know what that says about a republic either But as we move forward though, I think part of it is is there be very similar to the bill that was passed in 2018 With the heartbeat bill there will be amendments that will be brought to the floor However, I think there will be a conversation that will take place in caucus on
on Monday, especially in the two chambers, that you will be allowed to bring these amendments forward.
You can talk about the amendments, but we would strongly encourage you to probably withdraw certain amendments.
To not put anybody in the situation of having to take a vote.
Exactly.
And raise the issue.
And I've been told there has been a guarantee that a personhood bill will be debated and brought to the floor in the session starting in January.
Debated and brought to the floor.
That's huge.
That was a very interesting comment and I had to have it verified actually three times.
That's huge because
I'm thinking I could see where they'd allow a bill.
to be put in the hopper but debated on the floor that is
huge.
That was a very interesting comment and I had to basically repeat the question twice to this person I was talking to to make sure I was understanding what they were saying because that was not what I was hearing even a week ago and so that is that is somewhat encouraging.
Pastor Sam I know that doesn't you know go as far as you'd like to see it go but I do believe we're on the right track at the moment.
I like to get your thoughts on that.
We got five minutes
before the break here with Sam, and then we'll resume it with Tim.
Sam, five minutes is yours, Riff, baby.
Yeah, you know, Scott,
the one thing I just warned you about with, of course, hearing that it's guaranteed to be brought forth and brought to the floor, a personhood bill, is that we've heard these things before.
Because I've been told a thousand times that as soon as Roe vs. Wade got overturned by all kinds of legislators,
that we would that's when we would go and handle this and of course it's been over a year and we haven't done anything right and the best thing that we're doing a special session it sounds like it that we're going to be going in backtracking and passing something that we already passed before uh... so though i'm not questioning your your source uh... by any stretch of the imagination your sources have been right on the money uh... i just would would warn you be careful these
these guys in politics, sometimes they have a tough time telling the truth.
Well, I don't disagree with you at all, Sam, and I'm trying to think of who in the Senate or the House would go beyond the merely, I'm introducing an amendment, but I'll withdraw it.
Is there anyone who would go past the line of demarcation, Scott, and actually find a second?
You gotta have a second.
and then call for a vote at which point in time possibly the chair might rule it not germane and then there would be a call to suspend the rules to allow the vote so de facto the the rule suspension vote would be a kind of a vote on the amendment itself do you see anybody going that far Sam or do you think they're all going to fall in line like good soldiers Sam Jones
You know, unfortunately,
my guess is that they would all fall in line like good soldiers over in the Senate.
I'll say it would be nice to see Sandy Salmon and Senator Gooth, Senator Salmon and Senator Gooth go in to do this because I know that they are both very much pro-life.
They are
all vouchers for those two.
Yeah, I'll vouch for those two
big
time.
Their hearts are in the right place.
So maybe they just need to hear the public voice.
going and saying, look, you have people behind you.
So let me encourage them.
If they're willing to go in to put their courage on the line and do that, I would put my voice behind them 100% to go in to do that.
But asking what we would see if it's just allowed for amendments being given in a best case scenario with the heartbeat bill,
I would say if we could get some of these exceptions struck from the bill, that would be at least a quarter of a win there, although I still think it's from the wrong premise and we need to abolish abortion.
But if we could get some of these out of here, because obviously there's exception for rape, incest, and also medical emergency, which is often used as
You know, postpartum depression, potentially kind of a thing.
You can drive a truck through some of
those exceptions, historically.
Right.
Sam,
I know you got to
go ahead and finish.
And I got one question because
I
know you got to.
got another interview coming up here, but go ahead and finish that thought.
If they are going to stick to the heartbeat bill, I hope that at least the amendments that come forward are striking these exceptions.
That would be, if they're going to stick with that, I think that would be the best case scenario in that sense, or the best case scenario would be replacing fetal heartbeat with conception and the wording, and then going and actually just turning it into a personhood bill with the amendments, which I do think would be germane.
So somebody should probably do that.
Sam Jones here with us.
Sam, last question that I know you got to go.
We thank you for giving us this special time today.
Sam, in the whole scheme of things here as we're looking at this situation, you talked about encouraging our folks to do the right thing.
It's probably not a bad idea because it sounds now like Planned Parenthood is going to march on the Capitol is the impression I get.
Yeah,
absolutely.
That's one of the tactics of the left and of those that are going to go out and practice evil.
If they're willing to murder babies, of course, that's categorically evil, is that they try to intimidate.
And so one of the ways that you stop this intimidation is to go and to show support.
for those who are standing up for what is right.
And so if you can find legislators that are doing what's right, I would encourage all the listeners out there today to go and to get behind them completely when they're standing up for doing what's right, show up to the event, send them a, you know, if you're gonna send them an email, don't just do one that's chewing their ear off, if they're doing what's right, send them encouragement.
So many times when people do wrong, we wanna chew their ear off, which is not necessarily always bad,
But when they do right then we just kind of sit back in our silence about it and don't say anything and that's how the the good guys get worn down and oftentimes become bad guys and or at least mushy middle guys
And when we look at that, that's not an excuse on their part to not do what's right.
They always have the obligation to do what's right.
But we also have an obligation in Scripture.
It tells us in Romans 13 to give honor to whom honor is due.
And so when you see somebody who's going and doing what is right, you need to stop and give them honor.
Well,
I
think that that's
we could get behind them.
here, you know, encourage him to do what's right this next week.
That would be a good thing.
That's really well said, Sam Jones.
I think particularly in light of the fact that Scott, disagree with me here if you will, and we'll get Tim Grover's take on the other side, break here.
But Scott, the so-called organized pro-life movement in Iowa is very weak right now.
I don't think they have
the voice that they should have of the leverage and the prominence that you would think a statewide consortium of pro-life groups would have, they're weak and so this has got to be organic grassroots support that Sam's alluded to here.
Absolutely and I would say that you know groups such as the family leader led by Bob Vander Plaats and even Faith and Freedom by Steve Scheffler who's actually a national committee man for the Republican Party of Iowa they've been absent on this entire issue and you know I thought it was interesting that Mr. Vander Plaats was on Iowa Press and he basically took our entire program from the last two weeks and condensed it into an interview and so but Bob and and Scheffler they've just been sending out fundraising emails
and trying to worry about house parties and so they've been derelict in this issue and it took a lot of
important people across the state and grassroots people to make the phone calls, the emails, and to encourage Governor Reynolds to do the special session.
And without that, they would know this would not have happened.
And so it shows the power of the grassroots and Pastor Sam is 100% on it.
You know, that's why I made it a point early in the program to say thank you to Governor Reynolds because yes, you know, I've been very critical of Governor Reynolds on this program and in private conversations, but she did the right
thing.
And so, you know, as a legislator, you know, John, you probably got hundreds of emails from me criticizing you all the time on text messages and stuff like that.
But at the same time, though, when he did the right thing, I was the first one to say, good job, John.
But, you know, that's so important.
Same with Mrs. Jacobson.
Oh, yeah.
I saw some of her emails.
They were a lot worse than mine.
So I think the one time she threatened to have you banished my basement.
So.
But, yeah.
And so that's so important.
at the end of the day.
The the right and the pro-life movement too I've always said this to John is that they need to take a chapter out of the left and they're in their playbook the left has been so Successful over the years at incrementalization.
They take little like an ice pig
shipping away to stalactites is what they've been doing
Yep, and they've they've moved it there the ball to their agenda and been very successful at it and the pro-life movement has to do the same thing the conservative movement has to follow suit now
Now when we can take the shots and score the 75 yard touchdown pass, we have to do it as well.
But we can't be afraid to run the ball and get a positive five yards every time we can do that as well.
Guys, we appreciate
Sam Jones being with us.
Sam will be back with us on our sister network on Monday.
Sam, thanks for joining us today.
The studio audience again, very grateful to you.
Stay safe, have a great rest of the weekend.
my friend.
Thank you so much, John.
Thanks for having me.
It's always a pleasure, guys.
Very good.
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When we return momentarily here, Tim Grover is going to take a look at this with us.
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Us two Missouri River guys are going to breathe with the Mississippi River now.
Bring back our frequent contributor, Mr. Tim Grover, great citizen activist from the, I call it the Dubuque, Clinton, Maquokota Triangle there.
Tim, welcome back to the show.
Studio audience again.
Delighted to have you join us for extended session here today.
Tim, a lot to break open here.
You and I had a great visit the other day, and you touched on so many things.
I thought you had keen observations.
This is the wisdom you get from a lived experience.
Where do you want to start today, Tim?
The zeitgeist of the Reagan-Kennedy Democrats in that Dubuque area, the movie that just came out with Jim Cavizel and Eduardo Verestigies.
Uh, support on human trafficking.
Uh, let's talk about the movie first, Tim.
Okay.
Well, I just like to mention real quick
that yeah, I do agree with Scotty that the special session, a lot of this has to do with Kim Reynolds.
Um, and I also agree with Sam is when they do something right, we do need to, uh, to support them and applaud them for it.
Um,
you know,
I sound like the rabble rouser once well, but really in the GOP caucus 95% of the time I agree with everything they're doing.
It's the 5% that gets everybody irritated and we need we need we need to solve that.
So
yeah,
but yeah, I think the movie is a significant significant
and it's sound of freedom.
I'm just
give the title out sound of freedom.
Yeah, it's it's a significant movement in the grassroots movement.
It was on half the theater screens that Indiana Jones was on and beat it on the coveted July 4th holiday.
That's almost impossible statistically to pull that off with only half the screens.
And on top of it, it had no advertising budget.
Disney spent 300 billion advertising Indiana Jones.
They had none.
This film was actually made five years ago.
Yeah, they had trouble because diesel had trouble getting this thing out
Yeah, they pitched it three times in Netflix and they turned it down of course the Obama's are on Netflix for directors imagine that
so
You know kind like Paul
Ryan being on the board of Fox although Paul is not the Obama's and he's much more conservative and Paul Ryan is pro-life, but so so you were part of this you went to the
to the movie.
Tell us the the interest level, the background, the reactions, the location.
Give us a little bit of that flavor, Tim, because did you go on the fourth itself?
Yes, we went to the 115 showing in Dubuque, and it was three quarters full at 115.
What was the name of the theater there in Dubuque there?
AMC.
Okay.
On the north side.
Now they're parking lots in pretty shabby shape, but
but it was three quarters full.
And I know the 230, they were running two theaters.
And I would be one to bet just by looking at, just from that time of day in the middle of the afternoon, they were running at least half to three quarters full on each showing.
They were coming in.
It
was on a holiday too, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So well, a lot of tradition people go in the to the movies on the house in the afternoon and fireworks at night, you know, so
what was the zeitgeist?
What was the reaction to the people?
What was the reaction toward the movie itself, Tim?
What what is causing this phenomenon?
This this really is amazing.
You know, I looked at the gate from Tuesday and they had another four million
in gait receipts on tuesday they almost beat indy jones on tuesday only a million behind so this thing's got legs yeah and you know
it's just like john you and scott can take a lot of credit for this special section yourself because you're the two main hosts of this show and you're the only ones i've heard over any form of media that spoke up for this for the heartbeat bill and and
Little things like we're doing here is the new normal, the new media.
Nobody believes anything they see in the six o'clock news is real anymore, or it's paid for by somebody.
So they know they're getting sold.
They are looking for truth.
So this turnout was built all by grassroots word of mouth.
and they did H and every little show that they could get on to promote it.
And it worked out.
And the reason it's working is that people know that their government is not listening to them.
That's a government run by donors.
And they know this has been a real problem.
The trailers for this film made me cry.
Because I've been aware of what's going on down there in the Southwest since five days with Duncan Hunter.
And when him and our great Steve King, who I terribly miss, stood up for Ramos and Compion and got them out of jail when the drug mule, when the drug mule has been hauled in 25 times, caught in release all the time.
And for some reason, he never gets a sentence.
The two FBI guys that finally
caught him, ended up in jail and the drug mule kept running.
So it was Hunter and Steve King and Louis Gohmert got those guys out of jail back then.
So the trailers alone were making me cry because I've known what this has been going on for this long.
Here with Tim Grover.
Tim, it's just appalling to me.
We know there's human trafficking going on in large volumes across our southern border.
How is it that our regime by the best Scott the best words I can use to give them better doubt would be benign neglect but literally we are facilitating by our inaction human
trafficking and slavery across our border unabated, Scott.
Yeah, and I would just say, too, that it's not only happening on our southern border, but it's happening here in the homeland, you know, in the central United States.
And, you know, even we have to give kudos to Secretary of State Paul Pate, whose office has been trying to bring attention to this issue here in the state of Iowa.
And some of the horror stories that we've seen in Iowa over the last five or six years.
It's
those interstate crossroads.
Yes.
It's 29 and 80.
It's 35 and 80.
Yeah, and all of that
and so you know it's just not a southern border issue It's an American border.
It's an American issue and you know Tim and John I don't know if this is going to be a great Awakening but it's sad that it took a movie like this to basically force its issue into the public consciousness because without this movie and without you know the little bit of Information that Secretary Paul paid does and things like that people.
It's just not people's radars right now
And it should be.
It should be one of the top issues out there.
It's those aging Notre Dame nuns from Omaha, Nebraska that are doing, you know, they're giving talks to the hotel years to help.
Show people how to be on the lookout for these bad guys Scott they're recruiting in the council bless football stadiums was info that we were getting and I haven't seen the movie yet.
I want to get to it But Tim is the movie center around Central America is that where the Jim Caviesal character based based on a real-life Person is that is the Central America the field of play where this is going on the movie
Yes, and it's basically about past operations.
I mean, he's been that this for 15 years now and I would like to mention too.
I think that part of the popularity of this is the Carmel nuns up in Dubuque.
Is it Mount Carmel?
Yes.
Yes.
They have been promoting sex.
They've been all around this area talking about sexual sex trafficking.
And that is Sister Jean's first posting, you know, from
Loyola.
Yes.
Yes.
Mr. Jean's first posting was with the Mount Carmel nun.
The
final four nun who's about a hundred years old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was the first time as their first first posting was up there.
So yeah, I think that's helped a lot too because the sisters have been around all over Eastern Iowa here doing doing little
Presentations about this and raising the word
Tim I'm gonna take close out this segment with a final minute with a with a hard-edged editorial here But you know you guys are listening in including guys like Tim from the Dubuque area guys, I'm incredibly critical of Senate minority leader Pam Joachim She should know better.
She's come out railing against this
special session for life.
She went to Wallert.
She went to Loris.
She should know better.
Shame on her and Pam, you better get your head straight and you better get right on the sanctity of human life.
You have no excuses, Pam.
Jocum.
You grew up with Catholic education.
that teaches the inviolable dignity of every human life and shame on you, shame on you for leading this charge against the special session.
Shame
on Pam Joachim.
You bring up a great point there with Pam because she's been around a long time and and those people aren't sending her to Des Moines because she's pro-choice.
right
from there because she's been involved in a community for years right and she's not a radical leftist she she is probably close to a Reagan democrat than she is these lefties are they're giving act blue a whole bunch of money so yeah that was a great point to bring up there john
Thank you, Tim.
Well, we call it like we see them here, don't we, Scott Corey?
Absolutely, you know, no one's safe at some point during our rath in.
Bold colors, no
pale pastels here.
Well, and I'd be concerned too in Iowa City because football season's right around the corner and I know we're loaded for bear on that one too, so.
Well, our studio audience loves Tim Grover.
Tim, thanks for joining us all week.
We're probably going to have you back on our sister station again this weekend here.
So we'll talk to you very soon.
Okay, great.
Thank you.
Appreciate it, guys.
Appreciate your leadership.
Thank you.
God bless you.
You're very kind for saying that.
Hopefully we'll live up to that, my friend.
Guys, that was the great Tim Grover.
What a guy.
And you know, we're going to explore further with Tim in our next segment.
Tim has his pulse on these Reagan Kennedy Democrats that still exist in Northeast Iowa.
Who gets those?
Trump probably, Bobby Kennedy.
It's amazing these other candidates haven't gone in to try to fill that void.
We'll talk about that another day, Scott.
Absolutely.
That's the great thing about being in Iowa is that we get to talk about the future of our nation and how we're going to basically make our nation as we see fit moving forward with the Iowa caucuses.
Indeed.
Next up, one of the heroic
Doctors of Conscience, one of the great Iowans that had such a spectacular track record during COVID talking about medical freedom.
Scott, you hear that bumper and you know serious
business is afoot.
So we've saved the best for last today in terms of our medical expertise.
We're bringing back the dynamic duo to heroic doctors of conscience from both rivers as we should say in Iowa.
Honorable David Hart, such former Iowa State Senator from the Quad Cities and
Dr. Edward Fogarty, Ted Fogarty Cares Grant Award E with his hyperbaric's work there up in the Northwestern section of the state, along with Nebraska and North Dakota.
Welcome back to the show, gentlemen.
Thanks, John.
Great to be here, John.
Scotty, you mentioned a word to me, blacklisting Scotty.
That's a bad word, isn't it?
Absolutely.
And so it seems like we got kind of an update moving forward with the Iowa Board of Medicine here, doctors.
I'd like to get your thoughts on that and how things are progressing because it seems like everything during the month of July kind of gets buried because everybody's at state fair or excuse me, county fairs and on vacation.
But there's a lot of important issues going on right now.
Absolutely.
We'll go to Ted Fogarty first, and then we'll go to David Hartzich.
Ted, Dr. Fogarty.
Well, you know, I'm just looking at it from the political zeitgeist of the day, and you look at the media landscape and how they've basically blacklisted Bobby Kennedy Jr.'
's campaign, and he only gets any kind of media on.
podcast and, uh, you know, with, with us on AM radio, this is like the last three speech platform.
But, um, I'm going to turn it over to Dr. Hart, such who's done some incredible innovations in clinical hyperbaric since he's picked up that baton in Iowa with me.
Um, and he's, he's really been investigating the real blacklist of, uh, the, uh, medical complex.
Dr. David Hart, such you have the mic.
Yeah, John.
Anyhow, thanks for that, Ted.
And what I've been doing in my case is I've been finding out that basically the Board of Medicine is able to take investigational information and give it to the Federation of State Medical Boards.
Now, normally an investigation alone doesn't mean that you're guilty of anything.
It just means they're investigating.
But instead, the Board of Medicine shares this information with the Federation of State Medical Boards, and the Federation of State Medical Boards has a big database.
which they turn around and they sell this information to hospitals and to insurance companies might be given a practice insurance.
It might be given to the VA,
cetera.
So there's a doctor goes and applies for credentialing in any way that they're seeking a new job or they want to license in another state or they want to do anything.
They could be denied that based on the information that's on that database, even though that person has no right to see it.
And challenge it.
So this is coming to the forefront right now in my case against Board of Medicine because they're challenging my ability to see my own investigational file.
Unbelievable.
Although by their own rules, they will share that with the Federation State Medical Board, which doesn't regard itself as it's not one of the entities that the code allows
What a
bitter irony, Scott.
What a bitter irony.
Continue, Dr. Hartzich.
Well, this is reminiscent of McCarthyism, where they maintained blacklist of people and they weren't able to get jobs, et cetera.
And they were basically sent out of society just because they were thought to be communists.
And we're actually seeing that on the no-fly list as well.
Uh, the no-fly list is a form of blacklist.
Yes.
People who have had no, no terrorist ties at all.
But, uh, but we're on this blacklist.
I, I assembled across one case, it was a, as a baby, only nine months old, who was on the, on the no-fly list.
How is that possible?
How is that possible?
That's right.
And the reason is the no-fly list is based upon suspicion only.
So if you have a suspicion about somebody, you put them on the
pulling a blacklist, or it could be even worse than that where they don't like you.
And they just want to punish you.
So they put you on the no fly list, or in this case, the no practice medicine list.
But you can do cocaine in the West Wing of the White House, obviously.
Yeah,
just saying.
That's a no disclosure.
Continue.
I interrupted your mojo there, Doc.
Hard says continue.
No, Ted was going to say so.
Yeah, Ted, back
to Fogarty, Mississippi River to Missouri River, Fogarty from Northwest Iowa and Omaha.
Yes, and Western Nebraska and even Western, North Dakota.
I just want to go to
Lala and North Dakota.
You're you're almost nearly ubiquitous.
Yes,
I work in a Bermuda Triangle sorts, but if you look at if you look at what's happened with the pandemic and on a state by state basis and and you compare and contrast Iowa's handling of this situation from the medical board and medical legal matters versus
the great state of North Dakota, which protected all of its physicians in a special session where they, they created and crafted a bill and passed it that said nobody can come after a North Dakota physicians and his or her licensure for writing Ivermectin prescriptions for COVID-19 very specifically.
We passed
that the Iowa house.
We passed that the Iowa house when I was there a year ago.
We did that in 2022 and the Iowa Senate.
The Iowa Senate would not move on that bill that the house passed.
The Iowa Senate choked and flinched like dogs, like choking dogs.
Yeah.
And then when you contrast right across the Missouri River, how Nebraska physicians and the attorney general from this great state of Nebraska wrote a 44 page opinion stating the case for the Hippocratic practice of medicine during a pandemic where hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are completely ethical medications to use.
And then, you know, I got the whole CARES Act grant funding to use hyperbaric.
And glutathione amino acid precursors to intervene in the pandemic virus, which Dr. Albert Crum of Omaha, Nebraska, was awarded a patent in February of 2020 from the nation of Canada laying claims to the antiviral
effect of glutathione amino acid precursors in his mother nature's recipe formula for glutathione, which is patented under CA 296-3131.
And I was part of a very important meeting at the Harvard Club in New York City.
But Dr. Paul Harch, down at LSU, my research colleague in hyperbaric, and Dr. Crumb, working with a number of individuals across the country
set up a Manhattan project of sorts for the pandemic, employing these very simple physics concepts from hyperbaric, as well as this very simple concept that Dr. Crumb has basically penned the origin of the immune system at the unicellular level all comes down to glutathione.
protecting the inside of the cell from viruses and metals and all these other toxins.
And so when you start to look at these mavericks, the rebels that we are in the Midwest, taking all of these ideas and putting them into play to save the lives of our fellow citizens.
And then the Iowa Board of Medicine has the gall to come after all of us and destroy our families and our economic sustenance for doing the right thing.
Yeah, it's in jail.
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
And David Hartstich, we literally have 30 seconds left.
Then we got to sign off and get to the top of the break on Jeff Stein's great 50,000 watt blowtorch.
Dr. Hartstich, you get the final word 30 seconds, my friend, then we'll have Fogarty and Hartstich back next week.
Right.
I think it's important, John, that
I once recognized that the Board of Medicine is not merely trying to prevent the use of ivermectin hydroxychloroquine.
What they were actually doing was providing
trying to prevent the treatment of the disease at all, including hyperbaric and other drugs as well, which were effective.
And I was looking for a precedent in this respect, and this is unprecedented in the history of the United States.
No doctor has ever been prevented from treating any disease.
And that's because society expects us to be merciful and to do the best we can in order to treat disease.
They'll never say no.
People should be in jail for what they did, ladies and gentlemen.
And hospitals need to be held to account, too, that we're doing death by remdesivir and ventilator.
We're never going to exhaust our supply of truth-digging, Scott, until we get the bottom of this.
Thank you, Dr. Hartstich and Dr. Fogarty.
The crowd loves you.
And we're going to go out on that bumper tone that Teddy Fogarty grew up with as a little boy.
There it is.
You got to love that.
Ted?
I do love it, John.
I do love
it.
Doc Hartstich, we'll see you soon.
See you, John.
See you, Ted.
God bless you guys.
God bless you guys.
And now, Scotty, it's time for us to close down the program here.
We can play the cure here since we just had two doctors that are bringing a cure to health care public policy.
Scott, I want to close with this.
With all the presidential hubbub.
that we've had out here.
No one has drawn a crowd like Caitlin Clark at the John Deere Classic.
Was that just not profound to see the impact that this young woman has made?
The biggest drawing card for those of you that know your history, I call her the 21st centuries.
Babe Deedrickson Zaharias.
Did you see that sweet drive she hit off the first tee?
It was a work of beauty.
I
go back to saying what I've been saying all along.
It's Caitlyn Clarks world and we're just living in it and we're so grateful that she is an ambassador not only for women's sports but for the University of Iowa and the state of Iowa and I hope and I pray that she delivers a championship next year.
It would be great.
Yeah, it's her world and we're glad you're listening in on our world John Jacobson with Scott Corey here and Mike Shane at the controls.
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