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KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - June 5, 2023
The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Mon Jun 5, 2023
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It's that beautiful month of June across the heartland welcome this weekend Saturday and Sunday to the Jacobson group yours truly here with Mike Shane to the controls Scott Corey co-hosting
from his undisclosed location, agribusiness wizard that he is, and Barbara Hames Bryant with us, right off the top of the bat on Michael, this 1540 AM signal that carams across all the big 10 states, the only 1540 AM in the Western Hemisphere coupled by 100.5 FM out of Cedar Rapids.
Listen, guys, we're going to have a great, great show today.
Let's start out by letting you know what I'm doing a little bit this weekend, some Coast Guard work folks in the Coast Guard auxiliary.
You know, the Iowa flotilla is truly a one of a kind auxiliary outfit.
These are adult men and women that are part of the United States Coast Guard.
They serve as auxiliarists.
There's not quite 200 of us.
Spread throughout the Midwest and we do a lot of flood interdiction on both rivers Missouri and Mississippi as well as search and rescue and as well as Disaster aid relief.
We're we're calling for some new folks to join us It's outstanding work guys and the Iowa flotilla is some of the finest people I've ever worked with it's a way to still serve so if you are interested Call this show
We want you, the United States Coast Guard Auxiliary, right out of Iowa, the Iowa Floatilla.
And welcome Scotty to the show.
How are you today, my friend?
I'm doing great today, John.
It's great to be here on KXDL.
And I would say maybe you guys at the Coast Guard are doing too good of a job out there, making sure it's not flooding.
Because here in Northwest Iowa, it's basically in a drought for the last three years.
So maybe
lighten up the spick in a little bit so we get some moisture out here.
You know, Scotty, your loving, gracious wife was telling me, if you're ingenuity, you're attacking the insect infestation with a little ploy of your own.
Give us the 45 second review on that project this week that was hatched in some of our schools.
Well, as some of our listeners know, my wife Naomi is a teacher at a public school here in the metro area.
And for one of the science projects this year, we had them hatch about a thousand praying mantises that we ordered and we released them on our acreage to help combat some of the mosquitoes and flies and things like that.
You know, we're just, as you know, John, I try to be green all the time.
That's really my goal in life.
But it was just a great science project and it just cost us a couple bucks to order the insects online.
They had a great time and the kids really loved it at the local school.
You know, watching Yellowstone, you're like the green John Dutton, Scott Rancher and farmer that you are.
We'll bring on Barbara Hames Bryant to the great strains of Neil Diamond here.
Barbara, that sounds very ingenious of Scott Corey, but ingenuity is something with which you are familiar, harkening back half a century.
to the ingenious business model that your father and mother, the late great Kurt and Norma Hames had for Hames Holmes and Cedar Rapids Marion Hiawatha Robbins.
Thanks for that good segue, John.
I'm impressed because I did not know how I was going to follow Coast Guard auxiliary and praying mantises with manufactured homes.
But you did it.
So good for
you.
You're good.
Barbara, I was there just a couple of weeks ago touring through the beautiful, you know, you've got basically, you're the mayor of 3,000 people there in the two wonderful communities.
Barbara, I saw green lawns, manicured, mown, I saw shrubbery.
trimmed beautifully.
I saw siding that was impeccable condition.
These are pristine, very aesthetic, lovely communities, Barbara Hames Bryant.
Well, you know how I know that we have arrived, John?
I've got to tell you, we have actually been invited and accepted to join the Cedar Rapids Home Builders Association.
Awesome.
You know the Home Builders Association.
They normally only do site-built homes, duplexes, foreplexes.
Members are like carpenters, craftsmen, builders.
They have never had a manufactured housing operation as a member, and we have officially become members.
I am so excited.
I don't know if that's better than winning the lottery, but thank you Cedar Rapids Area Home Builders Association.
Barbara, that is breaking news and that is awesome.
Scott, Corey, how far the Hames family has come?
They are now at the pinnacle of their peers in eastern Iowa.
No, absolutely, John.
And Barbara, talk to us just a little bit.
Do you have a website or is there a way to schedule if people are looking to possibly purchasing and touring one of these homes?
Yes.
The best way to reach us is at our website.
HamnesHomes.com.
That's H-A-M-E-S-H-O-M-E-S.com.
We have information on our two beautiful communities, Grand View Village and Summit View Village, and all the amenities.
Plus, we have all of our stock of homes for sale on the website with pricing.
We're very transparent about it.
You're listening to the Jacobson Group, the number one ranked weekend show in eastern Iowa on KXEL 1540 AM, 100.5 FM.
Dr. Jeff Stein is smiling.
Barbara, there's another major award.
When you and I visited a couple weeks ago, another major award for you guys.
Tell us about it.
John, we were so excited to receive the Connect for a Cause Award.
from the Corridor Business Journal.
And it's given to area businesses that partner with non-profit organizations to provide great services to the community.
And when I say community, I mean the greater Cedar
Rapids area in
this case, we have a food pantry at our Summit View office at 100 Hayne Street Southwest.
That food pantry served last month almost 3,000 people.
It's open on Tuesdays and Wednesdays from 10 a.m.
to 4.15 p.m.
There are no eligibility requirements.
Anybody can come from our from our mobile home parks or from the surrounding area and get food that they need for their family for the day.
Scott, who is more emblematic of capitalism with a Christian undergirding that makes it everything that Adam Smith envisioned it when he wrote Wealth of Nations?
You know, absolutely.
And the best part about it is that these games home.
You have the small town feel, but you're right next to a large area where you can get a lot of the big city amenities.
And Barbara, how do you guys pull that off?
Because you have all kinds of amenities out there for being in the outdoors.
I mean, Fourth of July is just right around the corner right now.
It sure is.
We folks in our communities, mobile home parks, they own their home and lease the land.
And part of the land lease fee that they pay each month covers all the great amenities that we have here in our communities.
We have a huge dog park.
We have, of course, the food pantry.
We have a nine-hole disc golf course.
We have two parks and playgrounds in both Grandview and Summitview.
And we have emergency storm shelters in both of our mobile home parks, too.
We really try to make this
a home within a home.
People say, I feel like I'm living in the country, but I'm only 10 minutes away from almost everything I need.
I was just going to say, Barbara, the best thing about this too is you have security because you just don't let anybody in your community.
I mean, I don't even know if John can get in there
mean, you've got to kind of keep that kind of Notre Dame with that area, don't
you?
Oh, we do screen our residents very carefully, but I'm not sure we do.
Collegiate affiliation.
We're here with Barbara Haymes Bryant from Haymes Homes.
Barbara, what Scott said, really, I want to pick up on.
So I grew up in Marion, which was the northeastern quadrant of the Cedar Rapids metro area.
Barbara, I'm astonished and amazed at the
growth and the vibrancy of that corridor of Southwest Cedar Rapids, and you've got the best of both worlds.
You're perched right on the neighborhood of some of the wonderful commercial and retail establishments, but yet you're out in the country on that border of the rural area too.
It's just a perfect, as we know in business, location, location, location.
You've got it, Barbara.
Our residents love our neighborhoods.
And not only are we close to shopping and dining in the Westale area, we're only 10 minutes from the Cedar Rapids Airport from business aerospace engineering from the Amanda Colonies, 20 minutes to Iowa City, 10 minutes to downtown Cedar Rapids.
It's one of this area's best kept secrets.
Barbara, it is literally so true.
I took a 380 home and went right by the airport on my way in.
I drove through the Imana colonies.
You're next to everything there.
Guys, Hames, Holmes, again, Barbara, phone number, website address for our folks to get to, to look you guys up.
Phone number, it's our old Marianne phone number, 319-377.
4863.
I'll repeat that.
319-377-4863.
You can call that number seven days a week.
Our website is HainesHomes.com H-A-M-E-S H-O-M-E-S dot com.
Or you can visit us seven days a week at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road Southwest and Cedar Rapids.
Barbara I always get nostalgic when you give that number out because my father's dental practice was almost identical to your number three one nine three seven seven four one eight But I'm not going to confuse our audience three is that final digit for Haymes Holmes
Yes, this is that's Back in the late 60s early 70s.
That was a series of numbers.
They were giving out and we're pretty proud of that that's like
like gold star stuff that we have a number that old
it is well if Barbara will stay with us for a moment we're going to go into extra innings it's Hawkeye cawkeye season and Barbara Haynes Bryant is uh we're going to press her into service as our ace reporter from eastern Iowa later in the show we're going to talk about everything that happened in western and central Iowa this week Scott Corey's wife was very involved
in putting on the Ron DeSantis gathering in Council Bluffs.
Jeff Jorgensen will be on the show.
He was with President Trump in Des Moines on Thursday, but Barbara, all the action seems to be in Eastern Iowa.
Who haven't you interviewed or bumped into of the presidential timber out there with Iowa being the foremost and first voter pattern for electing the leader of the free world?
Well, John, I'm glad you asked.
Donald Trump has not called me yet.
Oh, he made a big mistake.
He better get with the program.
I know, Donald, if you're listening, my phone number is 319-377-4863.
Way to get that number in there again, Barbara.
Way to get that.
Is she good, Mike Shane?
Have you ever seen it?
Mike Shane, the engineer, has just, he's never seen such excellence.
Listen to that.
Wow, Barbara.
Studio audience loves it.
Otherwise, I think I've met just about everybody who's running for office.
I met Chris Christie.
I understand he's throwing his...
had in the ring on that him four years ago, and Mike Pence, I got a chance to interview him at a Iowa Federation of Republican Women event last month.
Ron DeSantis has been here, or should I call him?
Mr. Casey DeSantis has been here.
Well, that's a great point because Naomi, Scott, your wife was telling us that she's really quite the superstar in her own right, Casey DeSantis.
Did you pick up on that, Scott?
I sure did, and it was kind of funny.
Some of our mutual friends, their wives were a little jealous when they were walking back to the car because they remembered everything she said, but they didn't remember anything that their wife had said earlier in the day.
So it was kind
the attention that she gets.
But
think it's fair to say that Mrs. DeSantis is really a powerful figure in that entire campaign.
And it's going to be interesting to see how she is greeting
and it performs on the national stage as well as on the caucus stage as well.
Talk about that, that's a great observation Scott.
Barbara, your observations is Casey DeSantis, a rock star in her own right.
She's absolutely is.
Well, not only is she like lovely and poised and, you know, married to the governor of Florida, she's also like me.
I mean, she's a mom.
She has mom things.
Yes, yes.
You know, she's got to worry about how she looks and how she presents herself and making sure the kids get to where they're supposed to be.
And I found her very relatable.
Fascinating.
On a personal level too, she relates to a lot of women because she was just treated for cancer here in the last
at
least six to nine months and it sounds like everything is in remission and that's why she's out on the campaign trail.
She has a very compelling story.
to a lot of iowans and national people
you know that's a great point scott i know my wife uh... uh... with with her uh... situation some years ago similar to casey's uh... that does resonate you know everybody has a narrative and that ability by the grace of god to come through those
things.
Uh, it does make you stronger.
Um, Barbara, I just love the fact that Iowa is center stage.
Um, can you give us update?
Have you visited with Nikki Haley and Tim Scott yet, Barbara?
I have seen them speak, but not met them yet.
Um, like both of them very much also.
Right.
Tim Scott, uh, coming back to, uh, uh, he was just in council bluffs on Friday and, uh, Scott, where do you think this goes?
It appears to be getting
Well, let's just say it appears like Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment is already being violated.
How much trouble will this cause the GOP to unite?
I know Barbara can unite Eastern Iowa, but Scott, are you worried about this or is this just a good, robust primary season?
Allah, Reagan and Ford, Goldwater and Rockefeller, et cetera.
Well, I think it will be very robust and it'll be very telling too as we move forward, especially around the Iowa State fair time and things like that when these candidates really start.
going ahead and and criss-crossing the state of Iowa as well as the early primary caucus states but i i am a little concerned about it if the field is starting to remind me a little bit of two thousand seven two thousand eight and then again in two thousand eleven two thousand
where we had republicans had such a large number of candidates that basically nobody could uh... uh... break from the packet some point unless they went uh... super
aggressive in the negative campaigning and I'm afraid that's where we're headed once again Scott it will be also telling to with our bench moving forward we're seeing a lot of repeat candidates to this time around too so I'd be interested to see how those attacks prevail
yeah I'll give Barbara the final word but that's an interesting point Scott I distinctly remember going to the Ames draw poll with a van full of seven of us
Back in 2008 and we all took in a great day up there at Ames and you know had outdoor food and there were great bands playing and we all got back in the van on the way home
And every single one of the seven of us had voted for a different candidate when there were about 10 candidates on the ballot.
There were seven votes that got straight away there.
Barbara, do you think this is going to be a robust brass knuckle punch out here?
Or do you think we can keep Marcus the Queensbury rules with these ruffians?
I'm putting my money on the brass knuckles.
Well, you know, you and Jeff Kaufman can kind of rein him in if they get too out of control, I think Barbara.
Oh, you know, we try, but it's like herding feral cats.
Come on, guys, if we're all going in the same direction, it's better for everybody, but each individual one doesn't seem to want to hear that.
Well, that's right.
Well, guys, we want you all to go in the same direction to get to Haymes homes there in Southwest Cedar Rapids.
And guys, these are beautiful.
spacious, sturdy and safe, affordable homes for your family.
You cannot do better and you are in a neighborhood that is just buoyed by so many amenities, whether it's frisbee golf or storm shelters or a dog park or green space.
enhanced security.
Barbara you got it going.
The studio audience loves you and we'll hear again from you next week but keep us informed on the presidential politics too.
It's good to have an objective reporter in the east side there for us.
I'm standing by for you, John.
All right, guys, the great Barbara Hames Bryant, Hames Holmes, two other huge recognitions.
They almost got as many plaques in their office as we do here in the studio.
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That was a short break, Mike Shane, but when you hear this ring tone, the Mike Shane ring tone, the maestro at the controls, you know we've got
more hard breaking news on this great weekend of June across the Midwestern United States.
Scott Corey with John Jacobson here on the Jacobson Group and we have on our newsmaker line, the great Jeff Jorgensen, Potawatomi County Commissioner, former Marine, Vietnam Vet and Jeff.
You are also, let's put this way,
I may be the Donald, but you are representing the Donald.
You are part of the team helming the Trump re-election campaign here across Iowa.
Jeff Jorgensen, welcome to the show.
Our studio audience, deeply appreciative that you are here with us today on this great weekend.
What a nice reception, Jeff.
Welcome to the show.
You're all over Eastern Iowa, Champaign, Madison, West Lafayette, Ann Arbor, Columbus, you name it.
This is essentially Big Ten Country and Jeff.
We know Iowa is the Hawkeye-Cawkeye, the first state to fire the shot to elect the leader of the free world.
We just had Barb Hames Bryant on.
She chairs the Iowa Federation of Republican Women, and she's seen a lot of the folks out in eastern Iowa.
Jeff, for our largely eastern Iowa audience, you're on the other river along the Missouri River.
Tell us about the status of the Trump campaign.
It looks like the gloves are already off.
It's going to be a clash of the Titans in the, uh, the, you know, there are a bunch of undercard events, but it looks like the main event is shaping up to be Trump versus DeSantis.
Talk to us, Jeff.
Well, John, it's always a pleasure to talk to you, sir.
I appreciate that very much to have a chance to just discuss the last couple of days, actually.
Um,
yeah, here we are.
Here we are on Saturday and Sunday.
Tell us what happened this week.
I know on Thursday you were with the president, uh, himself.
It sounds like
yes.
Well, well, Wednesday, uh, the governor, Governor Santis was in the council blocks.
I was there for that event.
Um, you know, uh, the governor, uh, DeSantis is a great guy.
I, um, I'm going to say he's, he's going to make some inroads, but then the next night, last night I was, um, uh, over in a Grimes, Iowa.
Uh, for, uh, uh, meet up with, uh, with the president Trump.
This was Thursday night.
This was Thursday night, right?
Thursday night.
Yes.
Thursday night.
Uh, and I'm going to say comparing those two, I, um, again, Governor Santos is a great guy, but, uh, I think he's kind of in the training mode at this point.
I, uh, president Trump knows how to work a crowd.
There's no doubt in my mind.
He's done it before.
He's doing it again.
Uh, I was there with a small, uh, special invited group of, uh, of, uh,
campaign staffers across the state to form President Trump, about 150 of us maybe.
And he came in because he had a larger event there in the demo.
He was visiting several organizations over
there.
I think he had a big event at Clive on Thursday night in the evening, if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, yes.
So it was great.
It was great to see the president again.
And again, he knows how to work the crowd.
He knows what he's doing.
And I want to say that President Trump's going to take the Iowa caucus handily, in my opinion.
Are you saying this like Obi-Wan and Anakin right now?
You know, I don't have a crystal ball, but I've been at it long enough to size up candidates.
Yeah, Jeff Jorgensen.
Yeah, Jeff Jorgensen with this guys.
Pottawan County Commissioner, elected Republican.
Jeff, you were literally in on the ground floor with with team Trump back in 2015.
Can you believe that has been eight years ago?
Scott Corey is on the line with this and Scott and I have talked recently about how
Quickly, time passes.
Scotty, can you believe that Republican dinner was eight years ago when Trump came across the river from the press club and did the event at Iowa Western, Scott?
Yeah, it's hard to believe it's been that far long ago, and it's going to be very interesting to see moving forward.
Basically, like you said, we had to clash the Titans in the state of Iowa with Donald Trump versus
Ronda Santis and
ABC we need to bring in our special report Klaxon here hang tight guys We've got another update on the presidential race Mike Sheen was able to give it to us here, but Chris Christie has entered the race His slogan make America ate again
Now, he has an advantage, Jeff Jorgensen.
If he can be present physically in two states at the same time, that does give him a primary advantage.
Well, it does.
Yeah, if both states have a primary, it certainly does.
You can vote on both sides of the river.
And he can straddle both sides of the river, can't he, Scott?
Absolutely, absolutely.
You know, I joked with him years ago, back in 2012, I said his slogan should be, I'm the big man for the big job.
There you have it.
Now, your wife took credit for that, Scott.
Who really came up with that slogan?
Actually, that was me.
She is very good at taking a lot of my one-liners, which she appreciates them.
Mike Shane is
laughing.
Doesn't make it through the cutting room floor on some of the other comments that I make.
But, you know, as we move forward, like, Jeff, it's going to be interesting to see, you know, now that Donald Trump is running again, Chris Christie's in the race again,
we're having a
lot of basically two different types of caucus candidates.
I
don't
want to say repeat in a derogatory term, but candidates that have run before unsuccessfully are running, but we also have new candidates running, such as Ron DeSantis, Tim Scott, and a few others.
How is the Trump organization trying to coalesce these caucus supporters between the new fresh candidates as well as the candidates that have been through Iowa, say from 2012 to 2016?
Jeff, that's
a great
question.
That's a
great question,
Scott.
I'm going to say this.
The campaign is getting more organized, but I'm going to say it's very well organized.
And they are at the grassroots level.
They are working hard.
There's no doubt in my mind.
You know, it's going to be a two-man race.
Trump and DeSantis is no doubt in my mind.
Everybody else is just an afterthought at this point.
Although Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, I agree with you on that, but let me ask this.
So does it actually work in Trump's favor that there's a splintering
Even if those other seven or eight candidates only pull it two or 3%, that's still 20% that takes away from DeSantis's insurgency campaign that might block DeSantis from getting to 50.
The Democrats knew they were faced with the same thing four years ago and cleared those guys out after that South Carolina primary, even though Biden had done so poorly in Iowa and New Hampshire.
Right, and it's just going to be a Trump year.
Again, I
have no doubt in my mind.
I've seen it many times before.
I've seen how these things all play out.
Donald Trump is organizing very well at the grassroots level.
Uh, and, uh, just to give you a heads up, John, I, uh, I've been assured that, uh, President Trump will be in council bluffs at some point and not too distant future.
Well, this will be awesome, Jeff.
So let me ask you this, Jeff.
So, you know, um, it is finally safe to come outdoors.
Jeff, here's the thing.
Um, you look at the whole situation and the Iowa legislature, uh,
which is now adjourned and that's why it is safe to go outdoors.
A lot of their folks have gotten on the Amy Sinclair, Matt Winschittler bandwagon of supporting DeSantis.
And I'm wondering why that is.
There's a large number of folks.
Is that just so that they can suck up to leadership and get their bills?
Uh, put on the dais, do you think?
Or is it just, um, uh, you know, Pied Piper lemmings off the cliff.
Why are so many of those legislators moving, uh, to team DeSantis?
Well, uh, John, I'm going to say, uh, lemmings might be a good example.
I correct me if I'm wrong, but I think, uh, George, the former president, George Bush is a DeSantis supporter.
So there, there we go.
That
is a correct statement.
Yes, that is correct.
Yeah.
So there we go.
But, you know, here in Iowa, Trump has a state director, Marshall Maru, is that how it's pronounced, ran Brenna Bird's successful campaign for Attorney General against the longest running Attorney General in the country, Tom Miller.
So, you know, Trump is getting very well-seasoned staffers in place.
Yeah, Marshall, Marshall Maru, did you say?
Yeah, M-O-R-E-A-U.
The only Marshall I knew was Dylan, Marshall Dylan, but Scott and I are more like Festus and Newly, right, Scott?
Yeah, you kind of are a Festus sometimes, John.
Now Matthew, you all
scutter.
Yeah,
to us and ask us you know telling the listener out there Where they've said well, we've known Donald Trump all these years.
Why do we want to give him a third chance?
Well, I'm gonna say this he deserves it He this election was stolen in 2020.
There's no doubt in my mind He's the only one that can clean up this mess in this country.
We are we are facing a
a very big hurdle on this on a deep state problems we have.
We need to reorganize the DOJ, the FBI, CIA, all of this stuff.
Donald Trump is the only one that, in my opinion, can get that done.
He is determined to clean up Washington D.C.
and it needs to happen.
It just needs to happen.
Here
with Jeff here here with Jeff Jorgensen Jeff I want to segue on something here because I mentioned the legislature earlier now the Iowa legislature Kind of His has backed off historically from mandating that a county of your size goes to district elections However
You have an interesting development in Potawatomi, which is one of the ten largest counties in Iowa, the Council Plus Metro boarding Omaha, Sister City there, traversing the Missouri River.
Now, what's shaping up for you guys there with elections?
Well, you have to have maybe a special election about special elections to reconfigure how your county supervisors are elected there.
Right.
And John, we've had Democrat
you know the last couple election cycles we've had democrat candidates for the
county
board unsuccessful so they can't we can't win in a legitimate ballot election at this point in at least in part of what we can't
which is at large all all candidates are at large correct
at large at large we know we've got five we've got five supervisors all five of us represent and and and oversee the county government
And we represent all of the constituents in Pottawatomie County.
What the Dems, and I'm going to say is also outside interest.
It's not just the Democratic Party itself, but outside interest.
Want to get a foot in the door to take conservative control away from the large red sections in our country, including Iowa.
So this is how they do it.
They can't wait at the ballot box.
They change the rule.
They work to change the rules.
I don't believe it's going to work.
We're going to fight this tooth and nail.
Fascinating.
Yes, we're going to fight this tooth and nail and I don't believe this is going to work out for them either.
Let me bring Scotty in on this.
Scotty, some of this is emblematic of a rural urban divide.
You're a gentleman farmer rancher up north in northwest Iowa there.
Give me your take on what's going on in Potawatomi right now.
And of course, the elephant in the room is that Omaha influence.
What I call now
Blue Omaha.
Scotty?
Yeah, I think that's a very interesting point, John.
And it's going to be interesting to see how soon the election will be set for the special election in Pennsylvania or Pottawatomie County.
Jeff, have they set an election date yet?
Because
I think we're going to.
Yeah, we have.
I've gotten notice.
I haven't read the email yet.
But I've gotten notice that the date has been set by the auditor's office.
So, we'll
take
a look.
Uh-oh.
Now, you just scared me to death by saying auditor's office.
Scotty, give me some spill insults.
Yeah, I was going to ask, does the auditor of Potawatomi County understand that there's an election that he's going to be responsible for?
Because when you go to his social media website, he's still talking about 2020.
I mean, the guy is...
Yeah, the guy's a joke, as far as I'm concerned.
Swerving with the Mervin.
We're swerving with the Mervin, Scotty.
Yeah,
right into
the ditch.
You know, there's a good example of what could happen if we go down the road of electing county supervisors by district.
You know, Council Bluffs basically is going to have three, probably four of those districts within the Council Bluffs area.
Correct.
And then and then everything you know, Pottawatomie County is a big county.
All the rest of Pottawatomie County will be the fifth district.
So there's a there's a there's a correlation with you know, Chicago and southern Illinois.
Southern Illinois would like to secede from the city of Chicago.
Kind of like Eastern Oregon right now wants to be going over to
Idaho
There you go.
There you go.
Yeah, this is exactly what this is exactly what's going to result if this thing were if this thing It happens, but we're gonna be working hard.
You know, it's John you know the turnout Boater tune out in wet in the eastern part of water mechanic.
It's huge
When you when you do it when you do it right because I had 90
2% in my last election, the county turnout, where my district was, we had 92% turnout.
It was because of you that we have Governor Kim Reynolds.
Am I right to say that?
Well, I think that there are a lot of flying Dutchmen up north that are the true iron firewall.
Don't you think, Scotty?
I would think that Sue and Lyon counties would have something to say about that, but at the same time though, the one argument that I've always made for having at large representation is that the voter actually gets to vote on every one of those candidates.
point.
by both, and it's also interesting too, that the city of Council Bluffs elect their city council members at large as well.
Well, if you're for local control, that's the way that the folks in Pot County and Council Bluffs have wanted it forever.
And this was always a huge debate in the Iowa legislature because the Iowa legislature, Republican control during the time that I was there, was grinding their teeth
about Iowa City and Cedar Rapids and to an extent, I think they wanted to go to district wide out there in order to pop a few Republicans into office, but it really works against the local control folks and what they want to do in Potawatomi.
Now, crediting the legislature, they never quite drew Potawatomi into that mandate.
Scott, I thought that was very interesting.
Yes, and I think moving forward to, you know, the Republican Party, especially in Iowa, you know, for 25 to 30 years, they talked about local control.
But we've seen in the last,
you know,
three to four years, they're consolidating a lot of power in Des Moines right now.
So there's going to be a lot of soul searching moving forward with the Republican Party base.
are we getting exactly what we're voting for and as a consistent from the message that they told us for 30 years.
The biggest problem I see in Iowa politics, both parties, total concentration of all decision-making, all consulting, all lobbying, everything is Des Moines centric to the detriment of
folks like Southwest Iowa, Jeff Jorgensen.
I know our folks in my hometown Cedar Rapids and the folks north in Waterloo and then down south in Iowa City, they're used to.
Uh, they've, they've got large media market their own right and have received a lot of largesse.
They've got aerospace there with Collins and last stuff going on.
But Jeff, do you sometimes feel that if I had a panhandle, you'd be it there in pot County like the redheaded stepchild?
What say you, Jeff?
Well, John, I, as, as former chairman of the pot, a lot of the county Republican central committee, I'm fully aware of where the golden circle is at.
And it's not, we're on the periphery.
You know, we are just,
And not a lot, but the golden circle folks don't pay a lot of attention to those outside the circle.
I've known that for a long time.
They just want to pray, pay, and obey, I think.
Yeah, I agree with
you.
I agree with you.
But you know, things are going to be changing because kind of want to be counting in council offices are going to be a determining factor, I think, going forward.
We're going to grow and we're going to become effective in statewide politics.
I think we always have been to some point, but we're going to become more effective.
You know, Council Bluffs is going to be, I think, a tourist destination.
I'm working very hard to see that Pottawatom County Council Bluffs becomes the premier tourist destination.
Jeff, Jeff, if you do,
we'd have a lot of influence.
If you do a cable car or a street car, are you going to have it go further than the old market to mutual?
Well,
John, you need to sit in on the presentation by the mayor's chief of staff.
He's the one that's heading up this project, the light rail.
i've seen it i've seen it we are a railroad town abraham lincoln was in cb you know for the
railroad we're also a very historic area
yes
the final on the county and council bus has a lot of rich history
mormon trail went right through there the mormon trail
mormon mormon trail u p uh... mile zero for unipacific is council bus
right
on my heart of raska
right
and and all my heart all my heart is there because of council books not the other way around
uh... scott you know
we've got it
Yeah, yeah, Jeff, that's a great point.
I want to bring Scott in at this juncture.
So what a lot of our East Iowa folks may not realize is that metro area, Council of Omaha is about a million people if you plug Lincoln in there.
And Jeff, a generation ago, that Nebraska second district, which comprised Omaha, was one of the most conservative districts in the country.
I remember at one point in time,
background the time when John Christiansen was running.
I thought some polling showed that that was one of the most pro-life districts in the nation.
Now Omaha is blue.
I mean the electoral vote because Nebraska does it like Maine and apportions their electoral votes by congressional district.
popular voting.
That is Pop Democrat twice.
Jeff, do you feel that encroachment of volunteers and money from the Omaha side that's blew money coming over and making a dent in what had been a very robust Republican stronghold of Pot County?
John, money,
again, outside money comes from somewhere.
And I want to say a lot of it does come from the Omaha side of the river.
You know, we work to get our Republican candidates elected.
I've been chair for the county party.
I know how effective Omaha's blue areas and their influence over here, I know how effective that can be.
You know, you got a candidate last time, you got a supervisor candidate that spent $30,000 for a county board seat, $30,000.
A lot of that was outside money.
How do you explain all that?
It's a concerted effort to take control.
They want to take control of the reddest areas in the country, in the state, in the state of Iowa, Pottawatomie County.
We are a solid conservative red county.
They want to see what they can do to, I guess, put a notch in that.
That's very good observation.
Scott, I want to bring you back in.
So what is it about Iowa?
Is it because we're the caucus state?
Is it because of all those permanently camped out?
lobbyists waiting for the next caucus.
Is it because of the Omaha effect?
But Scott, some of the legislative races in Iowa, this is for a $25,000 year job.
I think that that Jake Chapman race in Dallas County, I think the Democrats spent two million to oust
Jake Chapman, I'm sure Jake's team spent at least a million there.
The cost of some of these races in Des Moines are literally a million dollar races.
Now Scotty, I was just checking another rural state for rural state for comparison the other day.
I looked at Kansas because it's an agrarian rural state.
I looked at Kansas state senate races and state
House of Representative races.
Scotty, they're winning those races with 50,000 bucks, 30,000 bucks.
How can there be such a disparity, Scott?
Do you have an angle on this?
Or is it just the urban-rural thing where it's going to cost a lot to win in Kansas City?
Not so much by Alatha or Emporia.
Maybe it costs a ton in Des Moines.
Maybe not so much in some of the Iowa outposts.
I think it's a combination, a little bit of everything, and I do believe that the caucuses do play an important role in that, because like you mentioned, it's in a perpetual election cycle in the state of Iowa.
You know, the joke is that the caucuses and, well, we've got to get ready for the next one next month.
You know, so, I mean, there's no in between.
And then he talked about the outside money.
There's a lot, you know, in Western Iowa, you see a lot of outside money from Omaha.
But on the Eastern side, you also see a lot of money coming in from the Chicago area as well.
And Chicago land spends a lot of money on that Eastern side of the district, or the state as well, especially for these legislative races.
So I think it's location as well as caucuses.
And moving forward, the state of Iowa needs to have a serious conversation.
about our ethics reports as well because I've argued for many, many years that as long as an elected official has an open campaign account,
they
should all be on the same reporting cycle because the Senate
They do not have to report the same cycle as the Iowa House, which is every two years, as well as the constitutional offices.
I mean, everybody should be on the same calendar, no matter what.
And I think that would be an important issue to push forward, and hopefully it's something that, common sense, that we could push through the legislature.
You know, this is just a fantastic conversation.
You're listening to the Jacobson group with Scott Corey and Mike Shane and Jeff Jorgensen our special guest right now on 1540 the one and only AM signal that's the 1540 dial in the whole Western Hemisphere 50,000 watts going across to everybody and I think we want to pull up our decision 76 music again because we've got to give a fairer shape
to the other side of the aisle.
Ladies and gentlemen, there will be a Democratic primary in caucuses.
There's gonna be a Democratic caucus in Iowa, whether the Democrats will recognize the vote tally.
There will be a vote tally, of course, presuming the Democrats can count properly this time.
They've been brushing up on their math from four years ago, but it's not just Joe Biden.
There is a, I believe,
a formidable resonance under wraps right now, but starting to emerge for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And I want to bring on Dr. Ted Fogarty again.
Dr. is one of the heroic doctors of conscience that Bobby Kennedy was talking about there at Washington at the memorial during the height of COVID when
These phyocytes were persecuting.
Doctors like Ted Folger, the...
Dr. Ted Fogarty that have been proven to be exonerated such that Fogarty's won CARES grant funding for his hyperbaric therapy, which has been so successful, but Fogarty was right on ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, hyperbarics, masks, lockdowns, remdesvir, being bad, ventilators not being so good.
Fogarty, you've hit
on all cylinders.
And I gotta say, the only public figure during that time that I heard saying what you were saying is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Tell me I'm wrong.
You are
not wrong.
And I'm joining you here from a great charity golf event, Hogan T. Rose, in honor of a great golf pro from out in North Omaha, Miller Park.
Mr. Hogan taught a lot of kids.
out of golf who had no means to otherwise golf.
And his son is an attorney in Omaha,
who's
a good friend of both my brother Robert Xavier Fogarty and cousin Danny Gutman.
But yeah, indeed, we have a precedent in the Northern Plains for what my free speech has been and meant to a lot of people in the rural counties from Kansas to Canada in teaching them how to save themselves with the North Dakota CARES Act grant.
innovations and just simple simple concepts of bioethics you know this this entire vaccine issue is it's destroying the health of so many people employed in America and it's showing up in the actuarial data
and
there's just really no ifs ands or buts.
Bobby Candy Jr.
was right all along and uh at least in one quadrant of the federal reserve banking system filled with Ted Fogarty.
Here Dr. Ted Fogarty uh Ted I'm just going to segue for just a second here um
You're my hero.
So I would surely have sponsored your force.
I mean, your little pro am up there.
But I want to just mention to Scotty and to Jeff Jorgensen.
Ted, we're joined by Republican County Supervisor Jeff Jorgensen with the Trump campaign and also former county party chairman.
I just got to point out
for all of our beloved Hawkeye fans out there, so many who listen to this show, that Scotty, you might have heard, Caitlin Clark and Zach Johnson are part of a Pro-Am foursome at the John Deere Classic in the Quad Cities.
Can you imagine the gallery that will be following that foursome and what it will cost to sponsor that foursome, Scotty?
Well, it just goes to prove that this is Caitlyn Clark's world and we're just living in it.
And have the John Deere classic bring in Zach Johnson and Caitlyn Clark is just a tremendous, tremendous event, not only for them, but for the entire state of Iowa.
Katelyn Clark and Zach Johnson are probably our two premier athletes and most recognizable Iowa athletes on the on the national and world stage right now.
And so it is it is huge.
And you know, that's the best thing about having Katelyn Clark is she is just a tremendous and tremendous ambassador not only for the state of Iowa, but for women's sports as well.
Well, let's see.
I can't say anything more to that other than I'll go back to Ted Fogarty and say, Ted, how are you doing on the golf course today?
We're not going to keep you terribly long, but are you able to lob a few wedges near the pin?
Well, we'll find out soon.
I just drove in from Ogallal in Nebraska and got here just in the nick of time.
So we're shot coming off at 10 o'clock.
This
is awesome.
Ted, give us a little wrap up of where we are right now in the post-COVID era.
Do you think Bobby Kennedy Jr.
can galvanize a national consciousness to evaluate what we did wrong during COVID?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think there's anyway a Biden beats a Kennedy in the Democratic primary and, you know, truth wins in the end.
And he's been speaking the truth for a long, long time on these matters of vaccine safety issues and harms.
And now we've gotten into the most unethical practices in the history of medicine regarding experimental vaccines that are destroying people's mitochondria, destroying their health and wellness, ruining their jobs, ruining their families.
There's just no other person that I can see who holds the banner of truth in this era.
Ted, I'm going to ask you one final question, but I want to give Jeff Jorgensen a chance to make a comment or a question for Dr. Ted Fogarty on the impact Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
could make on the Democratic side of the race.
Jeff?
John, you know that I've been on both sides of the fence.
I've been a Democrat for probably half of my adult life and I'm a staunch conservative Republican and later on in life.
Kennedy has been a candidate that I have admired.
And I'm going to say this.
He's going to garner a lot of support from
areas in this country.
He's speaking the truth.
We just need to hear the truth.
And he's out there with the truth.
I admire him.
I have a lot of respect for him.
I don't see how Joe Biden, fallen Joe, fallen down Joe can win the primary and go on to seek a second term.
I just don't see it happening.
could, but who knows?
Kennedy would be a formidable candidate for the White House.
We'll see what happens.
We'll see how far the Democratic Party has gone over the edge.
If they can nominate Kennedy to be their candidate, I think we're going to be facing a very big challenge on the Republican side.
Fascinating.
Dr. Ted Fogarty, you come from a lot of Democrat forebears yourself.
Well, let's go back another generation, though.
There's a lot of Irish Republicans in media and the law in eastern Nebraska, including my...
grandfather, Edward Ashford, your senior who wrote the State of Chicago here
in
Omaha, who were Republicans.
And it was really the whole wave of, of Irish Catholic Republicans that started to support the conservative Democrat movement of what John F. Kennedy brought in country in 1960.
That's true.
That's a great
point.
I've never been in a party purposely as a physician because I always knew there would be times when I would need to be politically powerful and leverage people in politics.
And so I've always stayed.
away from party affiliations.
But I'm all behind Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I've been one of his leading advisors out of the University of North Dakota School of Medicine for 15 years now.
You bring up a very important salient point, especially for some of our younger listeners.
John F. Kennedy was not liked by the liberal Democratic establishment when he ran in 1960.
He had Adley Stevenson, Eleanor Roosevelt, and even Harry Truman all against him, Ted.
Oh, absolutely.
And, you know, that's where this great nation, though, really needs to look at the person, look at who you're voting for.
And honestly, Bobby Kennedy Jr.
is the bravest attorney in the history of America.
He has taken on every corporate powerhouse since he was in his early career.
and he has won cases for the little guy.
He has turned corporate America around in so many ways, but there's one area where he's been inhibited and that's because of the 1986 Vaccine Protection Act that basically made all of these vaccine companies, all these pharmaceutical companies lick their chops over having a liability-free product that they could sell at will across the globe now.
And that's
The biggest, most damaging law in the history of the world and of this nation is that we gave up liability.
We gave up liability claims for our patients, our people.
against these global corporates who are destroying America and the Constitution.
Here with Dr. Ted Fogarty.
Ted, we're almost coming at the end of our time.
I'm going to have Jeff give the last word before we go out and close the show.
But Doc, the elevator speech, 60 seconds, because we've had you on at length and we're going to continue.
Hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
Tell me if I'm wrong about this.
You are reversing stroke, dementia, depression.
concussion by the use of hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
How does that work?
Why does that work?
My grain elevator pitch is that it's just a supercharger for yourself.
That's basically how it works.
You compress gases into the human body, into every cell, and then it supercharges the mitochondrial energy pathways.
So you have more energy to repair and mend fences at the cellular level.
That's all it is.
Just a supercharger system for ourselves.
And you know, Carol Shelby developing the superchargers with Ford and Ford versus Ferrari and, you know, it's Fogarty versus Fauci out here on the Northern Plains.
And it's it's essentially oxygen at a higher pressure.
Is that correct?
Yeah, it is just it's just oxygen at higher pressures and you know Dr. Paul Hart's down at LSU is the world's leadership in hyperbaric oxygen therapy for all sorts of neurological indications and
You know, he published on St.
Patrick's Day of last year, the end all be all scientific and legal justification that all of the insurance companies of America should be paying for hyperbaric for all sorts of indications beyond the 13 that we have now.
Wow.
Guys, we're going to have Dr. Ted back.
Jeff Jorgensen, any final thoughts or comments before I close out the show?
Well, John, I'm just going to say this.
We've got one election coming up that's going to determine our future.
whether we survive or not.
I think a lot of people are starting to realize that, recognize that, so we can work hard, get who we need in office, in office, and we can straighten out this mess, or we can go down the road to insolvency, socialism, whatever else comes down the road and be controlled by communist China forever.
That's just the way it is.
Guys, great, great, great program today.
Editor's note, Jeff Jorgensen who joined us today recently lost his wife, Mary Beth, after a long and brave struggle with cancer.
Mary Beth was a national radio pioneer in building a national network of Catholic radio stations.
uh... pure in the broadcasting industry but she is the first among peers the most accomplished of any radio folks i know in building that national network of catholic radio stations she will be sorely missed uh... we did a tribute to her on our sister radio network you can pull it up on the bluffs country
podcast of the Knifered All program from last week's show, Mary Beth Jorgensen.
Rest in peace.
And Jeff, our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.
John, I appreciate that very much.
I can't wait to join my wife.
So I got tears in my eyes as we speak.
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