KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - May 6, 2023

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Oh, greetings to you!

What a beautiful May weekend in Iowa.

A little precip maybe in a lot of parts of the state.

Boy, do we need it in northwest Iowa where we've got a drought?

Of course we've got flooding along the Mississippi.

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I've listened that sounder for many many moons Mike Shane I was listening Mike Shane back in the he'd say the early 80s Michael about 40 some years ago and Guy Scotty, how are things going for you as we're on 1540 the nation's first 50,000 watt a and blowtorch no other signal like it and

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Scotty, how are you?

I'm doing great.

It's great to be back on this weekend with everybody listening here on KXEL.

We got some great news.

The Iowa legislature went home so they can't do any more damage.

And Porto Kirk Farage strikes again.

I know we're gonna talk a little bit about that later on in the show.

Indeed Scott, indeed.

And we just got a wonderful lineup today.

We're going to go out momentarily to do our business report with the great Barbara Hames Garth Hilton has some excellent news.

We talked about the Hawkeye-Cawkeye.

The presidential candidates are rolling in and Free Speech America is one of those corrals that is bringing in the folks to listen to those that want to lead the free world.

Garth Hilton, good morning to you.

Yeah, good morning.

Great to be here, John.

You know, it's exciting, as Scott said, this sports portal thing.

is an issue that we're going to have to delve into.

But Scotty, is it possible that we'll have an Iowa quarterback from Michigan throw into a great receiver from Ohio State?

It is.

I mean, I had to look on the calendar to make sure that it actually was at April Fool's Day.

But it happened that you pair a big 10 winning championship quarterback and Caleb or K Big Mac Nomura.

And now we got a

stud wide receiver.

And then you pair that with the excellent special teams that coach LeVar Woods and of course, Bill Parker's defense.

I hate to say it, but I'm starting to smell the roses.

That would be wonderful.

You know, Scott, it's amazing.

Kirk keeps reinventing himself, doesn't he?

He sure does, John.

And it's a testament not only to himself, but to the Iowa program.

We are a developmental program, but Kirk is also changing what the times.

It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

And at the same time, as we move forward, it's going to be interesting to see the kind of pressure, because there is that 25-point average stipulation in Brian Farrant's contract.

And the statistics, basically, if Iowa scores 18 points under Kirk Farrant, they have almost a 90% chance of winning.

So, I mean, something's going on there in Iowa City, and I kind of like how it's out right now.

Well, and it's great to have Scotty and Mobile Unit 1 on the recruiting trail, and I've got to thank Scotty and Mike Shane and Garth and all of those who will talk about it later in the program led this ensemble team to some major

victories at the Iowa Broadcast News Association annual awards last weekend.

Thanks to Dr. Jeff Stein for having us beyond.

I'll just do a quick tease.

Our live election night coverage was one of the major winners for large market radio.

And Scott, if you remember, Mike Shane was at the controls for part of that.

And Jeff Stein was on from Eastern Iowa on our Omaha Council Bluffs transmission.

Yes, it was a great night.

We had a great ensemble cast.

We are covering the elections from basically from Lincoln to Des Moines and nationally and I just can't say enough about the program that we put together.

But also a huge thanks goes to our sponsors as well as our listeners because without them

We couldn't be doing what we're doing today.

Well, that's so true.

We were even on the simulcast with KXL speaking of sponsors.

It is time to bring back the great Barbara Hames Bryant from Hames Homes and Scotty.

You always talk about you're in your mid forties and you've there've only been two Iowa head football coaches in that time.

The Hames Holmes tradition continues unabated with excellence.

We're delighted to welcome back Barbara, the studio audiences on their feet here as always.

We love her from Barbara.

Barbara, how are you this fine weekend in eastern Iowa?

Thank you.

Thank you very much, everyone.

I suppose you're to be here.

Barbara, I want to touch on something today that

really struck an emotional chord with me.

It does every time I come out to a complex.

And this goes back, Barb, if I can just defer for a moment.

The first year I was in the legislature and being a member of the bar licensed to practice in Iowa and Nebraska, it unnerved me and irritated me greatly that the then more liberal Iowa Supreme Court

refused to allow the colors on a prominent flagpole in the courtyard of that new Palace of Justice.

And Barbara, to make a long story short, one of my first initiatives was to make sure there was a 50-foot galvanized steel pole illuminated at night that flew our flags.

And there's three flags I always love to see.

Old Glory, the state of Iowa flag.

and that POW MIA flag and Barbara when I drive to your communities and I drive your main offices there and I know Troy was part of this and the great tradition of your father and mother but that beautiful POW flag featuring that silhouette of a man's bowed head and barbed wire fence and a watch tower in the background that honors over 1200 unaccounted for POW MIAs left from the Vietnam War

I think people love the civic pride and the sense of duty and the patriotism and the remembrance for those who serve that the Hames people have always had.

My parents were both military, as you know, John.

My dad was a 23-year veteran.

My mom was in during the Korean War.

And my brother

decided my brother Troy Haynes made the decision to fly that POWMIA flag in remembrance of the men and women who never came home from Vietnam.

Story for you, when I was writing that piece and decided to feature that on our blog for the month of April, I let the

Our website company know that that was going to be the feature.

And I said, I'm going to feature the POW MIA flag as our blog post this month to tell people why, why we fly it and why it's important to us.

And they said, what's POW MIA?

Wow.

Yeah.

Which just reinforces that we need to remember it.

Now these young people in their, you know, 20s starting out in their careers.

It just goes to show that we have to keep reminding people that people do fight and die for us and some of them come home and some of them don't.

It's so important to us to be Americans.

It's so important to us to show our loyalty.

It's so important for us to remember those who gave their lives for us.

Well you know Troy said it very well.

He said there were 2,000 in Vietnam and only 700 have been repatriated.

Can you imagine being a son, daughter, or wife not knowing where your dad or husband was and if he was ever coming home?

Troy said, I've also talked with several residents, especially veterans that really like that we honor these soldiers.

Barbara, I've gotta believe that some of your home buyers there probably feel safer.

living in your communities because of the patriotic acknowledgement.

We like to think so.

I think that people understand, I hope, with our patriotic acknowledgement that we believe in the rule of law, we believe in justice, we believe in the Constitution, we believe in our founding fathers, and we believe in fairness and we believe in equity.

People just don't understand that

Just because you believe in the Constitution doesn't mean that you don't believe in you know treating people right.

It's It's a sad state of affairs when when people think that being American is being racist or being sexist because it's not being an American is all about including everybody

indeed America is the last grade hope of the world and But for America the entire world would have been enslaved

under totalitarianism, not once, but twice.

But for America, famines would have destroyed millions of lives, post-World War I and post-World War II, without that, Iowan Herbert Hoover and his tremendous relief efforts, even under President Harry Truman.

Scotty, no wonder all the presidential candidates are throwing wreaths at the door of Barbara Hames to host all these meet and greet events, Scott.

You know, absolutely.

They're all coming through here just to make sure that they get that endorsement and that photo off with Barbara over there in eastern Iowa because she is the queen maker of Iowa.

She's more important.

You guys stop it.

Barbara, who are you have coming in the neighborhood or who's been in the neighborhood lately just to throw some names out there?

Well, I had coffee with Governor Asa Hutchinson earlier this week.

Great.

Former governor of Arkansas.

And next week, we're doing a meet and greet with the vape Ramaswamy, the godfather of the anti-woke movement.

Yes, yes.

An author and Fox contributor.

Let's see, prior to that, I got a chance to meet Perry Johnson from Michigan.

He sent me a book.

Scotty, did he send you a book?

He did.

We're going to start a book club here pretty quick with all this material.

We're getting from these presidential

candidates.

Continue, Barbara.

Oh, and of course, you know, I got to interview Vice President Mike Pence a couple of weeks ago.

Yes.

I am happy to meet these people.

I love caucus time in Iowa, but please don't encourage anymore to come.

Okay.

Barbara, you remind me of your, your dear father holding court in Cedar Rapids.

Barbara, you've got great safe communities at very affordable prices.

Very spacious and beautiful homes.

How can folks get over and see you or surf the web or get contact with you guys on the phone?

Glad you asked and making come and see our POWMIA slags too.

We're at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road, Southwest in Cedar Rapids.

That's Wilson Avenue, West Post Road, Southwest corner in Cedar Rapids.

And you can also visit us online at HaynesHomes.com H-A-M-E-S H-O-M-E-S dot com.

All of our inventory of beautiful homes through there.

Pictures of our neighborhoods and any kind of information you could possibly want.

Well, Barbara, when mom gets back from visiting my sisters in California,

I get to go over to Marion and take her out for a nice ride, maybe right after Mother's Day there.

We're going to buzz down to Southwest CR and she will be very delighted to see that flag.

That flag meant a lot to my dad who served in Korea and we just keep these fine traditions going.

Barbara Hames Bryant.

You are the best.

Thank you for your support of this award-winning program now with our Ensemble 42 Iowa Broadcast News Association Awards.

And congratulations for that.

I know that every one of them was deserved.

Well, Barbara, thanks so much.

One take, Barbara Haynes.

We never need Mike Shane to edit any of her remarks.

Hers are flawless.

Barbara, we call you one take Barbara over here.

Have a great weekend.

God bless.

You too, John.

Have a wonderful weekend.

God bless you and your staff.

Talk to you next week.

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We've got some

Extraordinary stuff to talk about we'll build on what barbers talking about huck I cocky huck I cock I isn't just Cedar Rapids Waterloo, Iowa City Dubuque Quad Cities Clinton We've got some candidates that are casting their net statewide.

It's interesting to see who has the Organizations in the ground game.

That's what's all about Scotty and I'm bringing in Garth Hilton right now Garth.

You're with a wonderful group that

I'm proud to be a part of Free Speech America.

I'm going to throw a candidate into the hustings for you guys for June, but you got a great event coming up.

Tell all Iowans about it right now because all 99 counties are listening in on this broadcast.

That's wonderful.

Yeah, we are excited to have the Vic Ramaswamy come and join us for Cake with the Vic.

So that should be easy.

So when he comes to your town, you'll know how to pronounce his name.

You guys

are ingenious to get the phonetics right on the name.

Was that your idea, the cake with Vivek?

Oh, no, no, no.

That's all Sheila Murphy.

She was the one who was able to work that out.

So,

you know, I might have, Scott, can you believe this?

I think she stole my idea, maybe.

I thought I was the first one on a phone call with Sheila to say cake and Vivek.

Should I get royalties?

Absolutely.

I should probably give you a little bit bigger piece of that cake.

But yeah, so this Tuesday night, May 9th, we are going to have the Vakarama Swami join us at the palace just a little east of trainer for this conversation about civil debate or civil war.

How America can emerge from her current crisis.

and Vivek has been nothing but wonderful to us in terms of letting us choose the topic, sticking to free speech and having him address that, and also him allowing us to keep it as our event, not something that we're doing for him, and it's actually a fundraiser for our July 1st

fireworks spectacular and celebration of Independence Day.

And so it's going to be a wonderful evening at the palace.

Come and expect some fun little foods and treats and a great time with Vivek, somebody who's just incredibly articulate.

I can't wait to hear what he has to say about free speech.

So please go to freespeechamerica.org to learn more about the fireworks celebration, about Vivek's

Speech at the palace this Tuesday, but also just to get involved and see what you can do to help us ensure the first principles of America and of course our free speech

Oh Scotty so many good things about this event first of all set the palace we still mourn the loss we grieve we miss terribly penny Buckingham the proprietor and owner who

had that tragic fall and passed within the last year.

My heart aches.

That's a terrible loss, but her wonderful husband and extended family are keeping that alive.

It's a wonderful venue.

Scotty, what I love about Vivek is he's a private sector guy.

He's not an elected politician.

And Scotty, you and I are business people.

Agarth is too.

I like people who create jobs.

I like people who meet a payroll.

The vape has done that and you know what else I like about this Scotty?

It shows the vape is not a pawn of the elites that run these very tiny party apparatus operations but the vape instead of going out to see about

30 people is going to probably see about 500 people at this event, Scott.

Yeah, I mean, you can't get much more.

I went in America in an event, you know, where we talked with the presidential candidate about the future of our country, have some great refreshments, some kids.

And then the fundraiser, it's all about fireworks for the Fourth of July event.

I mean, that is just Americana at its finest.

And one thing that I like about Mr. Ramashami is that he

He does not care if he offends you because he understands free speech is that important.

It might offend somebody, but that's the glorious part of it.

It's the dialogue and the ideas out there.

And he does something that very few candidates do.

He tackles those issues head on.

And at the same time, he doesn't dance around them.

And they're not focus groups or polling or anything like that.

It's from the heart.

And that's why I think a lot of people are starting to warm up to his candidacy.

Well, he's definitely a champion for worker rights in the workplace.

Those who have traditional values who feel marginalized, threatened, and either at the point of a termination and bankruptcy, if they didn't take a Myrna jab that might have been harmful to their health, to social reconditioning at some of these corporations, which

actually violate the Iowa civil rights statute about maintaining neutrality when it comes to religious faith issues.

I think some of these corporations in Iowa are going to be in for root awakening when they get sued under federal section 1983 actions for violations of free speech if these

Businesses have a nexus with government and are deemed to be state actors.

Guys, the Free Speech Landmark case in America was right out of Des Moines.

Taker versus Des Moines Public Schools.

Scotty, how is it that Iowa is always at the cutting edge of everything that's happening?

You know, Iowa always said that the good Lord has blessed Iowa.

He's put it between the two great rivers of the continent.

And Iowa kind of serves as that.

that focus group, so to speak, of the of the mood of the country and how Iowa goes, the rest of the country goes, and we are so blessed to have these opportunities.

I mean, you talked about all the landmark cases, you know, on the Supreme Court and nationally that Iowa has been a part of, but also on the culture too.

I mean, don't forget, Johnny Carson, John Wayne, we're part of Iowa.

And lovely and gracious Donna Reed and a bevy of other

Uh, folks,

uh, Reagan was at that other, other radio station,

the Gipper himself.

Yes.

WOC and, uh, WHO, uh, Scotty, we did okay against those large market media sources.

Uh, a point of pride for this great ensemble here.

Uh, Scotty, you had some great, you're tracking the Iowa Portland recruiting pipeline and it bears repeating since a lot of our listeners are huge.

Hawkeye fans and want us to do some hawk talk every week being out of Waterloo, Cedar Falls, Sea Rapidsbury and Iowatha, North Liberty, Tiffin, Iowa City, Dubuque, Clinton, Quad Cities, you name it.

Scotty, let's go to the Iowa Fight Song here and recap this recruiting update.

I think it puts Iowa right in there with Illinois and perhaps Minnesota for a run at the Big Ten West Championship.

You know, absolutely.

You know, we talked a little bit about it at the beginning, but Porto Kurt, you know, 7.0 Kurt has struck again.

He has done something that a few people could do.

He's brought in a Michigan quarterback, a Michigan tight end, and a new receiver, Caleb Brown, a four or five star recruit out of Ohio State who actually played against Iowa last year in the horseshoe.

and he has joined them on arts in the Iowa Hawkeye team.

And the one thing we can all agree on if you're a Iowa fan or a Michigan fan or Ohio State fan, as long as you're not a Husker, you're all right with everybody else.

Hey Scotty, as a guy who was born when Forrest Eveshevsky was presiding over the Colossus of the late 50s, the Iowa Hawkeyes, with those

two or three national championships in the late 50s, depending on how you count.

You know what?

I remember we went to Michigan in the early 70s to find an athletic director named Bump Elliott, and we thought, can anything good come from Michigan to help the Iowa Hawkeyes?

And Scotty, that was a pretty good move on the part of the Hawkeyes, bringing Bump Elliott, Chalmers Bump Elliott.

Absolutely.

Iowa ranked Bump Alley.

It's probably the greatest athletic director at the University of Iowa.

We've had some very good ones.

Yes.

You know, even Emma Shetty was an athletic director at the time.

But Bump, he brought in, you know, C. Vivian Stringer.

He had Ludo and he had Dr. Tom.

He had the great, the biggest, probably the biggest crew in the state of Iowa bringing in Iowa State Dan Gable to turn Iowa into a

program very true probably as great as the UCLA basketball under John Wooden and then you know he went down with Bill Snyder who was coached under Coach Fry and they turned around Kansas State and turned that into a great program but Bob Elliott was probably one of the greatest athletic directors in the history of college

sports.

I agree and that was even before the NIL days by the way doughnuts for the show this morning were sponsored by engineer Mike Shane

coffee for this morning show sponsored by John Jacobson with an assist from Garth Hilton.

Hey Garth, you're our spy for the Nebraska Eye.

anything going on in Huskerville that encourages all you Husker fans that we deal with.

You know, they had they had a great spring game.

They did honor Frank Solich.

Will that break the curse or do they have to bring both Polini, Bill Callahan and and Mike Riley back to break the

Husker curse?

To be honest with you, I mean, I'm going to leave the sports to you guys.

Yeah, you guys are too much too proficient for me.

I yeah,

well Scotty I say they got to bring bow and his cat back to really break that curse What do you say Scott?

Absolutely, the bow has to bring the cat out on the 50 yard line and hoisted up like, uh, in order to break the curse, but, uh, you know,

Matt

rule has a, you know, he has a proven track record.

He is a good coach at Baylor.

Uh, you know, he struggled in the NFL.

But I think culture fans need to understand how bad that program is right now.

And if you get some bull eligible, I would consider that a win for the season.

And so as you move forward, you look at the coaching staff in the Big Ten West, which will be hit last year after we go to the divisions with UCLA and USC during the conference next year.

I mean, there's some tough coaches here.

We got Luke Pickle up in Wisconsin.

Oh, tough.

We got our old friend Bert over in Illinois.

Oh,

Belima, really tough, vexing.

And, you know, I always give our Illinois friends a hard time because, don't forget, Bert, as we officially call him around Iowa City, has a Tiger Hawk tattoo on his calf.

So he is a Hawkeye through and through.

And then, you know, and, you know, I'm not, I'm not starting any rumors, but we also have to understand

You know, we are towards the end of Kirk's career.

He needs

that one win.

He needs that one win.

Yes, that one win and he'll be third all time and big can play.

And so it's a lot of excitement going on in the West right now.

But at the same time, there's going to be a lot of a lot of great football.

But the one constant will always be at Iowa City is that we will have great special teams and great defense always led by.

Then former defensive coordinator, Norm Parker, and now Phil Parker.

And what Phil Parker did in the NFL draft, put the two players in the first round was tremendous, just tremendous.

And next year looks good too with Cooper DeGene.

There's going to be some tremendous Iowa drafting going on.

Fry Fest will be coming up.

I'm getting really excited for the year again.

You know, for our listeners,

There are some dichotomies between the Huskers and the Hawkeyes.

Scotty, I can always tell the Nebraska governor never wears a tie and their head football coach doesn't shave.

That's how I can tell the difference between the Iowa governors and coaches.

Yeah, absolutely.

And even their unicameral, I mean, they're running around in blue jeans and things like that.

The dichotomy is completely different.

You know, that's why Iowa has always been a professional state.

Nebraska, you know, they, you know, I said they're one step ahead of Missouri, but that's not saying much.

Well, I do give the folks the good folks of Lincoln, Nebraska a lot of credit.

You know, it's tornado alley down there and a lot of folks there cannot afford basements and the good folks of Lincoln have decided as a public service to safely shelter.

those Lincolnites who do not have baseman's during Tornado activity.

Scotty, they're going to shelter them in place at Memorial Stadium because they haven't had a touchdown there in five years.

Absolutely, John.

Absolutely.

And I mean, I joke about, you know, having two football coaches in my entire life.

I think Nebraska since starting the big 10 is on number five.

So I mean, that just tells you kind of the chaos in that in that in that

school right now, but as we move forward, it is just tremendous.

And you bring up Fryfest.

I mean, we have some great games coming up in Iowa City this year.

And as we get towards the end of Kurt's career, I think one great acknowledgement and honor that could be portrayed or displayed on Coach Fry was on the very first play that the offense is out there.

The tight end, it takes his normal three-point stamp.

But as the clock winds down, the tight end stands

up,

just like they did under Hayden Frye, and just let the play clock run out and take the penalty.

Because I think there would be so much goodwill out there to honor Coach Frye.

And you know, Kurt Ferrant is a class act, and he has meant so much to our program.

I always said, my wife and I had a son, and he was able to play football.

I'd want him to go to Iowa City to be under Coach Kirk Perrin.

Absolutely.

Well, that would be a magnificent gesture.

And maybe they were channeling the zeitgeist of your idea because Coach Ruhl, when they honored Coach Solich at Lincoln at the spring game, did that recreation of the handoff to fearless Frankie Solich, the fullback, who tore for about eight yards and the crowd went nuts there.

And then they stopped the game and

gave the game ball to Frank Solic.

It was a nice gesture by Coach Ruel, Scotty.

You know, absolutely.

And that's, you know, one thing about college football, it's all about tradition.

And Nebraska has a great tradition, you know, in the 70s and 80s and early 90s under Coach Osborn.

And Frank Solic was a great coach.

And, you know, there's a lot to be said about how he was treated by them, their athletic director.

And that program really hasn't been the same since then.

And for them to take

that

step,

Forward to honor Frank solich.

I mean he was one of the most winning at coaches at the time Yes, and there was talk when he was fired that Kurt Barron's was in the in the hunt for that job But he and Kurt made the comment in a press conference Why would I go to that place when they fired the guy that had the same record?

I did had a 10 winning record 10 win season that that year

that's good point I do think now current ad Trev Alberts on national TV was proffering the idea

of Ferris going to Lincoln at the time.

Just a whole fascinating sequence of events.

It's going to be a thrilling season and we'll be bringing you all of those highlights.

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Back here today with Dr. David Hartsuch, a frequent contributor to this program, former Iowa State Senator.

The honorable David Hartsuch, David Hartsuch, MD, a champion.

He's the kind of guy that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

would designate one of the courageous physicians of conscience.

Dr. David Hartsuch, who has absolutely one of the best track records of any physician in Iowa during the COVID crisis, and now continuing his fight for informed consent for Iowa's patients and medical freedom for Iowans, welcome back to show Dr. Hartsuch.

Hi, John, great to be here today.

Doc, it's an honor to have you back.

I know Garth and Scott may have some questions and comments for you, but Doc, you've got a

a very productive bit of litigation going on, this making some high and mighty in Iowa, take notice.

I think that's right.

In fact, I got a nice letter the other day from the Ombudsman office, which oversees the agencies and makes sure they're hearing the law.

And they told me that they've got their eye on this case to see how it plays out.

Now, that is very noteworthy,

continue, my friend.

Yeah, I mean, the ombudsman's office is there to make sure that all the agencies are not abusing their power.

And I think the fact that they've got an eye on this case shows that they're concerned that perhaps the boards of medicine and pharmacy have done just that.

Well, Dr. Hartsich, peel this onion for us a little bit here.

Give us the premise of your case.

the backdrop, the context, because I think it is one of the most important matters being adjudicated right now in our justice system in Iowa.

Yeah, John.

And so I've probably put out a press release and said that the Board of Medicine, the Bar of Pharmacy, have tag-teamed the patient like World Wrestling Federation.

Basically, the Board of Medicine has prevented

doctors from prescribing ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine and other off-label drugs.

Basically, they've told doctors don't treat COVID at all because there is no such thing as an on-label drug to treat COVID.

And so when they're going after off-label drugs to treat COVID, they're saying don't treat COVID.

Doc, this infuriates me because ivermectin turned me around twice in about 24 hours.

And to think that this was so difficult,

to get doctor prescriptions and to get them filled with this life-saving front-end treatment.

I think it's probably the worst thing I've ever seen in all my years as an Iowa citizen.

Right, but it's even worse because the Board of Pharmacy has, you know, together the Board of Pharmacy and the Board of Medicine put out this statement that said that doctors weren't supposed to prescribe and pharmacists weren't supposed to fill prescriptions for ivermectin.

or it was hydroxychloroquine.

And I was right up front with this.

I found out that the Board of Pharmacy and Medicine never undertook the issue at all.

A statement was put on behalf of the board without the board ever considering the issue or approving it.

And bad enough, when they turned around and took up the issue and agreed with me, the board continued.

to not send out that message.

So even though the board's intention was clear that it was okay for doctors to use hydroxychloroquine, the board of the bureaucracy continued to let people think that you couldn't treat the drug with the drugs by not sending out what the revised joint statements said.

And to me, that's actually a criminal act.

It's called non-pholonious misconduct.

And my understanding is it bears a penalty of up to a year in prison, and yet I don't see anybody going to jail for it yet.

Scott, this is the type of thing that just makes my head proverbially explode.

Who is championing these causes, but for these courageous doctors in Iowa who bore the brunt of persecution merely for saving the most lives and being the most correct on treatment protocols?

You know, you ask the question, who else can champion this?

And the answer is nobody because in order to go to court, you have to have a cause of action.

You have to be personally agrees.

Right.

And the people who are really harmed by this were the patients who came down with COVID.

or the patients who were not informed that they could get COVID, I mean that they could get treatment with ivermectinidroxychloroquine.

Because depriving them of that information may have influenced and undermined their right to inform consent over getting vaccinated.

And what's interesting in my case is I had a revision my pleading or a secondary pleading or

Amendment where I assumed the right of patience There's a there's a law there's a precedent that is sent in the court that if you have certain constitutional rights of one party which have been You know run over by the other party If you've got a third party like this with a vested interest in this Then that person can stand in the way of the person's rights

if they themselves cannot defend themselves.

So in my case, my patients can't defend their own rights because they got better from the disease so they no longer need the drug.

So the case would be moved.

But my case is ongoing.

I am continuing to be aggrieved because I can still not prescribe these drugs and have my prescriptions filled.

Outrageous.

Garth Hilton, a question or comment for Dr. David Hartzich.

Yeah, what's so infuriating is this whole idea.

And we saw in the wonderful conversation between Del Big Tree and Neil deGrasse Tyson recently of Neil deGrasse Tyson, this astrophysicist, just referring to the consensus, you know, that only the consensus can be right on science.

But

I think throughout history it's been very brave individuals who would stand up, use their free speech, their own intellect, and be able to challenge the consensus and use science, treat people, and make discoveries.

I just really appreciate your willingness to be courageous and to stand up against the consensus because the consensus isn't always scientific.

Wow.

Great point by Gareth Hilton.

What about that doctor?

Essentially these guys tried to railroad you guys by saying there's this consensus on Fauci medicine and you guys have shown results completely opposite.

Right.

And the thing about that, John, is that I do address the issue of consensus in my amended pleadings because I actually am assuming the position of defending the public in this.

The code provides me the right to do this as an agreed party on behalf of the public interest because the boards have deprived the public of the free market of ideas upon which truth can be determined.

That is a quote directly from a Supreme Court case.

And what's important about this is consensus cannot be arrived at, except in the basis of freedom.

If they say, oh, this is consensus opinion, and the government is forcing everybody to say, yes, that's my opinion.

That's not a consensus.

Consensus can only be developed in the face of freedom.

And so, in fact, those people that say that there have to be consensus opinion and are enforcing that are actually depriving the public of the right to a consensus upon which they can make legitimate decisions about their own health or about the effectiveness of the public health initiatives which our government has taken.

Here with former State Senator David Hartsuch, Dr.

M.D., David Hartsuch, Doc...

what sent chills down my spine as an attorney that believes in equal protection due process, when we discovered that there was no threshold, there was no credibility threshold for undertaking these persecuting investigations in secret of you physicians, as long as there was a crank complaining about anything related to COVID and the doctor,

They began these witch hunts.

There was no threshold of probable cause or documented evidence of any threshold before they undertook these investigations of you, curative, brilliant, curing doctors.

Yeah, John, I think that was interesting that you actually discovered that point in talking with Kelly Garcia, who's the head of Health and Human Services, and she admitted to you.

that all of these investigations they started, if they had anything to do with COVID, they automatically went to investigation.

Instead of being manually, there's a requirement in the law that they have to review these and determine whether there's grounds for continuing investigation.

But instead, they took all of these, if it had to do with COVID, and say, go ahead and investigate.

Some of these doctors have investigated for over two years.

And during that time of investigation, you can't get a new license out of state.

You can't apply for new jobs.

You can't get malpractice insurance.

You are an aggrieved individual by the mere fact that they are investigating you and you have no recourse to even take them to court to stop it.

This is horrible.

One doctor who's been investigated for over a year was investigated for merely making public statements.

Which were which somebody complained about and that is not in the jurisdiction of the boards because they are they only have jurisdiction over the practice of medicine not public statements that doctors say about medicine

Scotty Scotty, I'm gonna put you on the spot here what what David has said is brilliant Scotty at some point Isn't the head of the executive branch Have a duty as Clint Eastwood said

Sometimes if they can't do the job, you just gotta let them go.

Do we need to let some people go, Scott Corey?

I believe we do and I also would also put some of this on the pressure of the legislature because the legislature has oversight authorities and I am shocked and appalled that the House and Senate did not call for some hearings on the response to the governor's actions during this and that's just not picking on the executive branch that's called oversight and that's the way the Constitution was set up to have

co-equal branches.

And so as much blame that could be put on the governor's staff and executive directors, a lot of this also falls on the legislature for its dereliction of duty.

You know, this is just so right for continued exploration.

In our next segment, we're going to do hits and misses of the legislative session.

Drs.

Hartzich, we got a lot of people listening in the Dubuque.

Clinton Quad Cities, Waterloo, Cedar Rapids, Iowa City Area.

If folks wanted to get a hold of you, how could they get a hold of you, Dr. David Hartsich?

Well, you know, probably the best way to do that is call my number at 563-508-9266.

All right, David Hartsuch.

We're going to bring you back.

As you know, we've got several different networks.

We're going to bring you back to some of the other networks here in the next few days and get this message out even wider.

But you're hitting all 99 counties today.

Thank you for joining us again, Dr. Hartsuch.

We'll be back in touch with you momentarily.

Thanks, John.

It's great being on.

Dr. David Hartsuch, the honorable studio audience on their feet for this great heroic man.

Doc, safe travels, and we'll talk to you soon.

Thanks, John.

Bye-bye.

Bye-bye now.

Dr. David Hartsuch, guys.

Spontaneous and unrehearsed.

With an intellectual cabal of folks that you have not seen since Thomas Jefferson once dined alone in the White House This is the homage to our McLaughlin group as Scott said earlier in the program It's safe to come out of your homes.

The legislature has adjourned hits and misses issue one

Some good things did get done in the legislature this session.

Scott, Corey, what was your highlight?

I think the passing of the school choice bill was probably the high crest of the legislature.

It gives the parents a lot of good options.

I don't think it's a perfect bill.

And I think there's going to be have to be some reworking, especially for some of our rural districts.

But I would say that is probably the most important issue that got accomplished this year.

Jacobson says, yes, money following parents is always a good idea because it's their money issue too.

Misses, misses of the session.

Jacobson starts post row, Dobbs era, trifecta, super majorities,

No life legislation anywhere during the session.

Scott Corey, what's going on?

I agree with you there.

We've been told on the right for 40, 50 years that if you get us elected, we will overturn role versus weight and protect life.

Well, we gave you the Supreme Court.

We gave you the US Senate to get those judges through there.

We gave you the trifecta in Iowa, and they all did nothing.

And so I think the biggest myth this year

was that the Iowa legislature filed down to the executive branch and the judiciary branch when it comes to these important issues.

Agreed, Garth Hilton.

Yeah, there's just absolutely no reason why you shouldn't go ahead and reassert yourself as the legislature and do something to aggressively show that this needs to be changed because the people want it changed.

And to just leave that

on the field like that and not really address it and be more aggressive.

I just don't understand it.

Well said, Postscript and equally bitter situation Nebraska where one Rhino killed the equivalent of a heartbeat bill there.

But for one Rhino, there still is a chance though, he still has time since he voted not present to change his vote and save that bill.

Issue of miss two.

Scotty touched on co-equal branches.

Scott, we don't need Imperial Presidencies or Imperial Governorships.

What if we had a left-wing Governor Culver or Governor Hubbell in their emergency powers, still unabated and extra constitutional in Scots right now?

Nothing happened this session.

Yeah, that's a great point, John, because May 11th, the Biden administration is declaring that the pandemic is over.

and uh... i uh... in in iowa people are are getting removed from the medicare and medicaid role due to the covid pandemic because they no longer meet the economic threshold well what if this is all got go going forward why did the legislature not move forward and restand the emergency powers that it granted the governor uh... back when the pandemic first happened it is a complete dereliction of duty on the legislatures part

I was opposed to the legislature adjourning in 2020.

We were told ostensibly to get out of town.

The governor wanted us out of town.

I was against that.

Scotty Uraluther and Martin Luther said to stay during contagion at your station.

Garth

Hilton.

Everyone understood how to handle this type of a problem in a pandemic and it wasn't to lock down and choose favorites or anything like that.

And to bend the knee as happened and to just give over these powers and then not to learn from the mistake and reassert yourself again as a legislature.

I mean, I just, I'm flabbergasted.

Legislative miss

number three No medical freedom legislation, how is that possible Scott Corey?

Well once again it was basically it happened in negotiations from what I've been told from my sources the governor did not want it to happen and the legislature Decided to kill any bill that had any of that language in there and my response was

Then what's the point of having a legislature if the legislature isn't going to move forward with its priorities of its own citizens and the people that they represent?

Then why should we even have 150 people down there?

Why shouldn't the governor and the judiciary just run the state?

It's because, and you know, legislators are beholden to their corporate donors rather than fighting for their 33,000 house constituents and their 65,000 Senate constituents.

Garth Hilton, I'll give you the last word on this one.

No medical freedom this session.

Yeah, I mean, without that kind of freedom, I mean, yeah, what is the point to be able to

understand and be given full consent and not to back up your people.

I mean, you're there to represent the people and their needs, their concerns.

Again, I just, I don't know how you can leave that on the field and not get that one done.

I totally agree.

Totally agree, Garth.

Issue four.

Personal property rights.

Now, Scotty, we can argue the merits of carbon capture pipelines and whatnot, but what should be sacral-sanct is private property, and we've got some issues in Iowa with eminent domain.

Why was that not tackled in this session?

Well, at the end of the day, it all became down to one big issue.

The agribusiness lobby in the state

As well as a few of the commodity groups in the state of Iowa want the carbon pipelines to go forward.

Governor Reynolds has replaced several members of the Iowa Utilities Board who will oversee these permits.

And it comes down to the almighty green dollar having the final say.

Guys, there is good news.

Issue 5.

We had one hit.

Four misses, so this is bonus.

I guess this is issue six.

Garth Hilton, you have a huge event coming up.

Talk to us about it.

Yes, this coming Tuesday, May 9th at 7 p.m.

Free Speech America is going to host the VAC.

Ramaswami for an incredible speech on free speech.

It's titled Civil Debate or Civil War, How America Can Emerge from Her Current Crisis.

So we're really looking forward to hearing from this incredible candidate talk about free speech and

Also, I want everybody to know, too, that he's doing this as a favor to Free Speech America.

It's a fundraiser that evening.

We'd love to have you come out, bring the family.

It's going to be family friendly.

Some more dervs that will be fun to take part in.

And July 1st at West Fair again, Free Speech will be holding a grassroots fireworks celebration for Independence Day.

And so this is a fundraiser for that.

that event, but we are just really excited to hear from Vivek and all of his incredible ideas that he has.

And I'm just so glad that he jumped in because he's kind of shaking it up and he's not afraid to use his free speech.

He's got the money to do it.

He's a private sector guy.

Scotty, here's what's innovative to me.

Do you think alarm bells are going to be going off in Vivek's head when he realizes he had 50 people?

at an official Republican County event and 300 to 500 will show up at Free Speech America where the real people are.

Well, I think it's going to send shock waves to the so-called establishment because these candidates and these consultants, they all think, well, I got to go to the Central Committee.

That's where people are.

Well, it's not.

In a lot of Central Committees, like you said, it's five to 30 people that show up.

not a representative force out there.

That's why people like Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump in 2015, 2016 took off.

They took their message directly to the people, and that's how you're going to win the White House this time around.

Guys, what I'm shooting for is a KXEL debate.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

and Vivek Ramaswamy

both are shaking up the race and their respective parties.

Scott, this thing is going to be very interesting over the next year.

It sure is.

We have a front row seat here at KXEL to the presidential candidates, not only on the Republican side with the Iowa caucuses, but as you mentioned it, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

is out there making waves on the Democrat side, and so it's going to be very interesting to

see how this all shakes out in the debate of ideas, but we are so fortunate that Dr. Jeff Stein has allowed us, as well as our listeners, to bring this program to their homes.

And we're bringing a program to a close today.

How fast this hour has gone.

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