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KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - February 4, 2023
The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Mon Feb 6, 2023
Hello, this is John Jacobson, and welcome to this podcast of The Jacobson Group.
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live in America, especially in eastern Iowa in the middle of winter.
What could be better than February in the Midwest?
Scott Corey, John Jacobson here on the Jacobson group with my sidekick Scott Corey engineer Mike Shane.
We're on the blowtorch KXEL.
America's leading.
Centenary celebrating 50,000 watt blowtorch on our AM signal of 1540 on our FM signal of 100.5 Waterloo Cedar Appets and all of the states the big 10 is this clear signal carams on this crisp Arctic weather Tundra frozen day Scotty, it's great to be back in studio with you We have so much good stuff day gonna talk a lot of sports.
We had signing day and I love February in the Midwest Scotty
35th wedding anniversary is Monday.
So this is like.
Honeymoon 35 years later weekend for the lovely and gracious mrs. Jacobson and me and so I love February's that's the Romantic month st Valentine's Day is coming up.
You know it sure is and I
you know if we had money going on the placing the bed of 35 years We all lost money on that deal and it just proves that mrs. Jacobson is truly a saint among us for doing all this
see Scotty erga Luther and I'm a Catholic guy I almost have you convinced that purgatory exists with Deb having had to live with me for 35 years well that
Not only that, but putting up with Shane's laughing,
putting up with Brian Ferenc's offense last couple
of years too.
That proves that there's a purgatory.
We'll talk
a little bit about Kirk's.
We have to talk about that.
We've got another next to a neighbor Husker because guys.
I'm starting to feel footsteps.
They're swagger in that big red program again.
I'm getting a little worried, Scotty.
My that Matt rule.
He's he's done some portal magic.
He sure has.
And, you know, if they if they can actually do something outside of, you know, four wins a season, we might actually have a team in the Big 10 West to compete against.
But, you know, Don, there is a lot going on today.
We
those those nasty Illinois boys.
Yes.
We'll have to talk about the orange crush being outwitted by Gary Barda.
So
that's
Yeah, so
that tells you the intellectual firepower behind those folks.
So it's gonna be a great show, John.
Dr. Jeff Stein loves
this show.
Let's roll.
Scott, you know this is a high point in my week each week because I love our American free market.
enterprise system.
You know, my dad built that love in me as a child.
I loved him because he was the only guy I knew in Mary in Iowa other than perhaps Kurt Haymes who voted for Barry Goldwater in 64.
And you know, as a businessman for my career, Scott, I love Ronald Reagan.
I loved that supply side economics.
It worked.
He did what Jack Kennedy did.
It worked for Democrat Jack Kennedy.
It worked for Bill Clinton for crying out loud, working in that shotgun marriage with Newt Gingrich when they repealed the capital gains taxes and that windfall came into the treasury.
Now I have one of my sons who teaches free market economics and is publishing all over the place, but today we get to go back to the well with the matriarch.
of commerce and family business in Iowa in eastern Iowa Barbara Hames Bryant daughter of the late great Kurt and Norma Hames I started watching their television commercials as a young boy Scott about 53 years ago and what's happened since then further excellence
growth of a business and you know we all want to make a difference in this world Scott I was reviewing last night I kind of have a decision tree trajectory of where my time and talent should be spent making a positive difference is it registers high on my little grid sheet there what can be a higher calling then
providing people with homes.
That's the most fundamental pivot on Maslow's hierarchy.
It's the most basic fundamental need.
A man's home is his castle.
A woman's home is her castle.
And this great lady, Barb Hames, been doing this.
She saw his little girl, her dad, mom do it.
Now she's this wonderful civic leader, statewide in Iowa, heading up Iowa Federation of Republican Women.
And
Barbara, welcome back to the show.
I see some handsome men on the website here too.
You've talked about the multi-generational aspects of this business.
What do you want to talk about today on Hames Homes?
Well as much as I'd like to talk about those two handsome men that are third generation I'd like to go back to what you started with and talk about free market economy
That's my oh, I love it when you talk dirty to me Barbara
My parents started this business in 1969 was all they had was their army pension They had no idea the amount of influence the government has on businesses
And they succeeded in spite of government regulations, not because of it.
All these people living in these homes, I don't think they realize how much we have to fight every day to keep bad laws from happening, to keep taxes from rising, to keep expenses from ballooning.
And we're trying to provide affordable housing here.
You know, Barbara, talk to us just a little bit about that affordable housing, because if people are looking to get into one of those great units you have there, they can go online, can't they?
And they can also, if they decide to pull the trigger and make a purchase, you actually help them with the financing too, don't you?
Absolutely.
Our website is HaynesHomes.com.
H-A-M-E-S-H-O-M-E-S.com.
It's a great place to view our entire inventory of new and pre-owned homes, the sizes, the amenities, and the prices are listed on there.
We're very transparent about that.
The price of a brand new manufactured home per square foot costs about half of what a site built home is because the homes are built indoors.
They're built assembly line style.
There's very little waste.
It's the original green housing.
And yes, we do have financing.
We have our own in-house financing company called Circle Finance.
But we also have access to local and national lenders to get the best deal for the borrowers.
You know, Barbara, as we were going into the beginning of February and everything, we know we've been dealing with some sub-zero temperatures and stuff like that.
Your homes are energy efficient as well, aren't they?
Yes, they are energy-star homes.
They are insulated the same as a site-built home, and the furnaces and air-conditioners, the HVAC system is very energy efficient.
Now, that's not to say that once in a while we do get a pipe that freezes up, but you can get that with a site-built home, too.
That's right, Barbara.
Barbara Hames Bryant.
So, Barbara, you guys are on the cutting edge nationally.
is leaders in the industry.
It's well known.
You sent a great team down to the Louisville Manufactured Housing Show on January 19 and 20 in Louisville, Kentucky.
That's a premier event.
That's the nation's largest indoor product show for manufactured homes.
And you know, you guys are down there.
It's fascinating.
You guys actually
collaborate with many of the manufacturers and lending partners.
How important is that for you to stay on the leading edge, both of the product and the financing?
That's hugely important.
Curtis Haynes the Forge, Kurt Haynes' grandson, my nephew, and Clint Alderman, who is my niece's husband, went to the Louisville Manufactured Housing Show and spent two very, very busy days.
looking at all the new floor plans, new features, new financing, new energy efficient appliances.
We are staying on the cutting edge of researching what customers would like, what is available in the marketplace and matching our customers to what's available because we stay on top of what's available.
You know, Barbara, you may have
More microphone time than you think my son has a podcast that is fairly well listened to across the country on free market economics Also another one on faith in economics.
You might be getting a call from my
Our third generation, the family, as you knew my father and mother, whose mother is still living, but I might have to hook you up with Mr. Pete, Dr. Pete, for an interview on his shows.
I'd be happy to.
My degree at Drake was from economics and I'm very passionate about it.
Oh, we have a lot of passionate Drake Bulldogs in our neck of the woods.
Don't we, Scotty?
A great institution.
We sure do.
But, you know, just as long as they don't go to Creighton over there
in
Omaha, that's where we draw the line with those folks over there, though.
That's for
sure.
That's telling me about
it.
Guys, the great Barbara Hames Bryant get over there today, get to Southwest Iowa, drive through these beautiful neighborhoods.
Absolutely.
beautiful.
They are landscaped.
They are patriotic.
They are safe.
And my goodness, Barbara, what a legacy your family continues to build.
We're so grateful for you in Eastern Iowa.
Well, thanks, John.
I really encourage people to come and view these homes.
You just can't describe them until you see them.
It's true.
We're at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road, Southwest and Cedar Rapids.
So Southwest Cedar Rapids, Wilson Avenue and West Post Road is where you can visit us seven days a week.
Barbara, I was mesmerized when I came to visit you.
Not only did I tour those neighborhoods prior to meeting with you, I toured them again afterwards.
It was absolutely beautiful and stunning to me that we've got
First-class communities like this that are so safe and family oriented.
You've got the pantry going you've got the dog park you do all things well Barbara Congratulations.
You do your father and mother very proudly
That's the greatest compliment you could give me John
Well, the the greatest comment you'll give us is when we get to interview you again next week Barbara until then stay warm in one of those comfortable cozy warm Hames homes
Scottie, Iowa is known
for many things
Many things that are very joyful and happy and edifying, but there's a sad poignancy to this Saturday, a sad anniversary of the day that music died, that fateful crash in northwest Iowa.
Yeah, it was over there at the surf ballroom there in Clear Lake on February 3, 1959, the Big Bopper, Buddy Holly, and
to help me out, Shane, it was Lance.
Richie
Valens,
Richie Valens.
They
crashed on an airplane and think how different music would have been had they survived.
LaBamba, the movie, a lot of kids know that was Richie Valens, who that was modeled, and Buddy Holly, who
You know that'll be the day that song was written about John Wayne's the searchers John Wayne's catchphrase as Ethan Edwards because Buddy Holly at the Texas theater went there for like two weeks straight watching the searchers and
put that into his song.
And let's not forget too is that it was during a blizzard and that they had actually flipped a coin in Wayland Jennings, the country music star that he was.
He was actually supposed to be on the plane.
He was.
And then there was a joke that they said, well, I hope he ended up on the bus
somebody says, well, I hope your bus freezes up and he made the equip to his friends.
I hope your plane crashes.
And he talked about that for years, how he never really recovered from that joke and how it
Haunted him to make that joke, but that was such a moving time and Don McLean song American Pie That really it capitalizes how society changed from the 1950s into the 60s and 70s that there's a lot of thoughts if you know
Jimmy Dean was a part of it and and you know talking about the Kennedy assassination and all those different things it's an eight eight minute song which is a very rare during that time
to hit number one and what's interesting about it is it did bridge the generations because I'm a tail end baby boomer that song hit number one in 1970 and my father who would have been a 39 year old man at that time a Korean War veteran he was singing that song in
the car.
I remember that very, very vividly.
And, you know, and yet the music perjured Wayland Jennings, two of my first earliest concerts, Scott, in the late 70s, were Wayland Jennings concerts.
And at that time, he was traveling with the crickets, the band members, he was loyal to the band members from Buddy Holly's
band, and they were always playing with him.
And Wayland had some incredible success on that tour and with the crickets.
And of course, one of the crickets, Sonny Curtis, wrote the theme song to the Mary Tyler Moore show.
And so there's just music continues.
And yet, there was an innocence loss.
You had, you had these cultural touchstones.
Patsy Klein's plane went down.
James Dean died.
John F. Kennedy was killed.
Uh, you know, we were at the advent of the space program and you had, uh, Russian cosmonauts perishing
Vietnam going,
you had Vietnam.
So yeah, it was a pivotal time and yet it comes back to Iowa where this tragedy occurred and Iowans as they are, uh, they still keep these people near and during their heart.
There's a nice memorial up there.
Mike Shane.
You've been in this a long time Reflect on that.
What's the impact you think of that on uneven music itself
on well, you know You mean of the of the actual event or the or the
and the aftermath and the song.
Yeah.
Yeah Well with the song let me start with that.
Yeah Because that you know was a time I was in high school right when that came out and I remember my
Lifelong friend Don Blessie, who works in Cleveland at one of the radio stations there, had made it a point to copy down all the lyrics, you know, so we would know with it now.
Right.
And then even after writing them down, there were some things that were like, well, what's that referred to?
You know, and then we, you know, after discussing it, figured out what they referred to.
But Richie Valens was like on his way up.
Just starting on his way
up at that
time.
Yes.
And so, you know, we have no idea, you know, how that would have changed things if he lived.
Right.
Right.
And Buddy Holly, of course, goes without saying.
So,
you know, talk to us just a little about that too, Shane, is that a lot of musical historians and John and Chip Regman who joins us as well.
Don McLean's song ranks up there in one of the most important songs in all of American history.
Up there with even a Sunday morning coming down written by Chris Christopherson, that Johnny Cash made.
Magnificent version,
yeah.
And you know, the Smithsonian and all these organizations have labeled that as maybe one of the top one or two songs ever created by American musician.
And so it's amazing how that song has took such a sad moment, but it encapsulates
This is our historical, our identity basically of not only Iowa but the nation.
I dated a fine young co-ed, well actually in high school she would have been a high school date for a summer.
And she was wonderful, young lady.
She was convinced that the song was all built around John F. Kennedy's assassination, but really it will have many things in there.
Didn't it, Mike?
It was almost like a travelogue, wasn't
it?
Yeah.
And it was the thing, you know, with the Rolling Stones and all that.
Yes.
Well,
even Elvis Presley was looted to in it as well as the riots, the tear gas was the perfume, was the things like that.
And so Don McLean, he was
one of those artists
very allegorical.
Yeah, that
captured the society at that moment that I don't think really can ever be replicated again.
And unfortunately for him, you know, that's how he's always going to be remembered, but also grateful for him.
That is how he's going to be remembered as well.
Yes,
he did have, I won't call him a one hit wonder.
He did have two other very strong chart hits.
One was Vincent, Starry Starry Knight.
And there was a third chart.
one that was a top 10.
And you're going to edit this out here because was it and I love you so
castles in the
castles and yeah, and I love you so made more famous by
Perry Cole.
Yes, he did do he did do crying.
I was right.
Okay, so we can pick it up here.
And you know, Don McLean, that is his giant monster hit.
No question.
The iconic but he did have several other top 40 chart toppers in that era one that
did very well was Vincent which was re-released even later in the mid-seventies after being on the American Pie album but also Castles in the Air and one that I remember from 78 his chain lightning album Crying which is an old country song that got
Remade so and he's still with us down the claim
he sure is and I believe he's actually been up at the surf ballroom a few times there in Clear Lake
in
every year on February 3rd They usually do a big program where they have Reenactors you know sing the songs and things like that, but they they dedicate it and it's done very well from I've never been there, but I've had friends that have gone there They said is very historically accurate, but it also embodies the memories of those of those fine musicians too and so
We're just well done.
I'm proud of Iowans for doing that.
I'm proud of them for maintaining John Wayne's legacy, for maintaining Donna Reed's legacy, Glenn Miller's legacy.
Got a lot of great Iowa stories.
Well guys, we're the home and away voice of Chip Reedman.
Yes, Chipper.
Welcome to the show, Chip Reedman.
You were mentioning about whether he's still performing or not and I was looking online a little bit while you guys were riffing on it and he's produced 22 albums.
The last one was produced in 2020 or released in 2020.
So he's never really let go of producing songs.
He's still out there and still writing.
That's a great point, Chip Reidman.
Well, we're going to produce and write about this Iowa Hawkeye football team and play the Iowa Fight song here because we're also going to put on chips.
Chip Rademan joins us.
He's our Husker czar of all things Huskerdom, but it's only fitting Scott that as we have just recently traversed Groundhog Day that
Brian Farance is back too.
Yeah, that's a great point.
It's almost like he's a bad penny that just kind of keeps showing up.
Chip Reidman.
Is it six more years of one touchdown offense?
I'm going with six more years of six safeties by Phil Parker's defense, Chip Reidman.
There's just so much going around Iowa football right now.
Kurt Farance as well as Gary Barda addressed the media here in Iowa City just a couple days ago.
And Kirk made the waves saying there will not be any coaching changes.
It's just they have to
execute better and there's been a lot of angst in Hawkeye Nation by those comments.
It almost seems as if Coach Ference was a little tone deaf in how he presented those comments.
Your
thoughts?
He
kind of a nutcake when he came in.
People didn't understand when he came up to the podium to talk to the reporters.
It just, he was just all over the place.
They had just no idea what he's talking about.
And obviously his system when it got on the field wasn't much better at all.
So I can sympathize with what you're going through.
I do not understand why Kirk couldn't make a change.
You've talked about it several times.
Is this his last year?
Was last year going to be his last year?
Is next year going to be the last year?
And does he want to leave with this esteem of too tough of a word on his legacy where he's just, you know, limping out of the job?
I just don't get it at all.
Well, I think what kind of bothers Hawkeye Nation too, as well as some of the fans is that Coach Ferenc talked about, well, you know, we've done this and we've done this as a program over the last few years, which is tremendous.
but it's all about football right now is all about the now it's the product you're putting on the field as well as it's going to be broadcast on national television we have a multi-billion dollar tv deal that will be on cbs nbc fox sports i mean we have so much out there and then we have one of the worst offenses out there and
I don't think expectations should be, well, if we get the offense to score 21 points, I mean, we should expect the offense to score 21 points no matter what, and then whatever the defense and special teams do, that's just gravy.
That's kind of where I'm coming from, and I know a lot of the fans are coming from that as well.
Well, I know you should definitely be part of the defense.
You should definitely be part of the special teams.
They have been the one piece of good that's held the program together the last year, or has it been two years?
Basically,
since Phil Parker's a phenomenon.
I actually am wondering, so if Kirk leaves, I don't know how old Parker is, but what's going to be his job opportunities when Kirk decides to hang it up?
Do you think they would consider him for taking the head coach job?
Or would he say, you know, it's time to move on and go somewhere else.
We go pro.
Yeah, that's that's the unknowable and I know Phil Parker has had opportunities to become a head football coach and he's just decided to be honed his craft as the one of the best defensive coordinators in the not only the conference but the nation and what they what he does by putting those three and four star players in the NFL year and a year out has just been tremendous.
But as an Iowa fan chip, we talk a little bit about what's going on in the conference.
We have a new commissioner coming in.
Athlete director Gary Barda made the comments that even though we have a new commissioner, we will be going ahead with the new scheduling formats moving forward.
But as an Iowa fan, we're seeing what's happening in Illinois.
We're seeing what the new coaching staff up there in Wisconsin.
But we have a new coaching staff in Lincoln right now.
you know we always say tongue-in-cheek though that Nebraska wins the offseason there the big 10 conference champions in the offseason but Matt rule is a different kind of coach and he's putting together something that I think could be very formidable not only for Iowa but all the big 10 West schools moving forward
well just like when Scott Frost came in everyone is optimistic like you say they're undefeated at this point I think everyone is a lot more tempered in their emotions
As to what they see coming, I was just reading online a little bit this morning what people are kind of predicting for the season.
And it's modest.
Most people are kind of given that 6-7 win range, which I would say is reasonable.
He's got enough four stars.
He's got enough three-star people that they can develop.
The history is that he does know how to develop players.
He's got a roster problem.
I don't know if you've read about this.
I think he's at 103 scholarship players right now.
And the NCAA rules say you only can start the season with 85.
So there's a lot of sorting that's going to be happening this spring once they start going through drills and figuring out who's going to stay, who's going to work, who's not going to work.
He's got a tough road to hoe when it comes to trying to sort all this stuff out.
But yeah, I've been watching the rankings a little bit.
He's done well relative to the rest of the conference.
There's two different ways.
I don't know if you've looked at it this way.
But there's two different things you look at.
One is recruits, which is the high school kids.
But the other way is you can look at the transfers.
And then you can do an overall reading by putting them all together.
And composite-wise, with everything together, Nebraska has done very well.
You look at Ohio State as an example.
They do great on recruits.
They don't need to bring in transfers.
I think they only brought two transfers in.
The funny thing is, you talk about the haves and the have-nots, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, those people are way up on the list.
But they don't need the transfers like what Brewell did.
I think Wisconsin did a lot of transfers.
I know Iowa didn't.
But those guys, I mean, they certainly looked down the bench and all they see is four five-star guys.
It's the haves and the have-nots.
and I'm not too sure that spread is even getting worse as time has gone on because of the money that's available from NIL.
You know that's a great point too Chip because we are basically in the wild wild west right now when it comes to name image likeness and how the so-called oversight is from the universities as well as the NCAA and now we have the presidents of the university saying hey Congress you need to get involved and help us regulate that and I'm sitting here as a sports fan as well as somebody that has been in politics and I'm thinking
Congress is the last organization you need to have come in here and regulate NIL because, I mean, those people, I mean, look at the gas cans that they make you buy now at Menards and Lowe's in Home Depot.
I mean, that's the kind of gas cans that Congress put together.
I could just imagine what they would do to the NIL situation.
But we're also in a new situation to chip.
where we're seeing breaking on Friday Friday morning Dennis Dodd is reporting from CBS Sports that talks have stalled between Texas Oklahoma leaving the Big 12 early to go to the SEC and so is that a win for the Big 12 and Fox to keep that inventory away from ESPN moving forward.
I think it's a win for Fox Sports.
I would agree that it probably is.
I'm not sure I would agree that it's good for Texas and Oklahoma to be hung in limbo like this.
I saw the headlines.
I didn't read the reports exactly what's going on, but it's very bizarre.
So this
the dichotomy.
If you're the Big 12, do you want to say, hey, goodbye, good riddance.
You're not interested in us.
Just be gone.
But on the other hand, you do the television side to think about.
You do have your ratings to worry about.
You do want to have Iowa State, for example.
You do want them playing Oklahoma and Texas because those are marquee games for those programs.
Bill Stadiums puts eyeballs to the TV.
So which way do you want to go?
Say goodbye or please?
We have no problem if you want to hang around a little longer.
Well, then you also have to dovetail this.
You have UCLA and USC joining the Big 10 basically on July 1 of this year.
And so you're going to have the Big 10 with the marquee matchups of USC versus Ohio State or Michigan, but then
you know, they're going to be across all the major networks and stuff like that minus ESPN.
And so they are going to be able to put out a quality program and product where as the big 12 is kind of suffering right now, because looking at even on their basketball situation, you know, they had Iowa State versus Kansas State, it was on ESPN plus, you basically had it was a pay per view channel.
I mean, so the big 12 has to figure this all out with its with its media partners, because they are going to be left behind from the big 10 in the
moving forward.
Well, that's interesting that you bring that up.
Iowa State, and it is bizarre that they would be on ESPN Plus.
That was a great game, by the way.
That was right down to the wire.
Great basketball.
But the Big 12 has six teams rated in the top 25 nationally right now.
So it just doesn't make sense that they're not getting the coverage by the media.
because their teams are recognized nationally as being very, very good.
As to where we were talking earlier, a few days ago about the Big 10, what do they have?
One team, two teams ranked at this point, Purdue obviously number one, but they're the standard bearer.
They're the flagship.
They're the only one the Big 10 has got that they're pushing out there because all the rest of the teams are beating each other up.
Back on the Big 12, that is really bizarre.
That is sad.
You know, but there's still a lot of things that are coming though.
There's, I have not seen anything go away or say that big 12 is not talking to the pack 12.
I shouldn't say pack 12 where they call it the four corner states, the Arizona's, um,
into the conference in Colorado.
So it's in Utah.
That's the other one.
If I remember right.
Um,
You know, that's still hanging out there.
And if they bring those names in, it's going to, you know, pump them right back up to the top.
Is it in your SEC?
Is it a big 10 level conference?
No.
but it definitely gets them a lot closer.
It definitely brings them to the table when everyone, people want to talk about championships nationally.
Well, then we talked about, you know, eyeballs and things like that.
On Thursday night, we saw ESPN go into Carver Hawkeye Arena where Lisa Bluter's Iowa women team led by Caitlin Clark put on just a clinic and dismantled a very, very good, highly ranked Maryland team.
And so we're seeing a lot of great Iowa sports and a lot of great Iowa basketball right now.
Caitlin Clark, in my opinion, should be the player of the year.
The way she is doing it, she dropped 42 points on Maryland the other night.
She did the same thing basically to Nebraska back on last Saturday.
And it's amazing what Lisa Bluter has done with that team.
And I think it's basically the expectations are final for a bust for Lisa Bluter as well as Caitlin Clark.
I would say you're right.
She's definitely playing very well.
National all-star quality.
Does the basketball have
for women, the equivalent of a Heisman trophy.
The play of the
year.
Obviously would be a candidate.
Yes.
I mean, she definitely should be considered.
And the big candidate, again, on the women's side is not an easy conference.
Now there's a side where you do see a lot of the women's teams ranked.
And Iowa has definitely pulled themselves to the top of that ranking at this time.
You know, and we also be, you know, later this afternoon here on, uh, in Iowa City, Iowa takes on Illinois.
And we had a huge issue this week with the orange crush of the Illini student section, trying to buy up a bunch of discount tickets for the University of Iowa to get their players, the basic, or their fans basically smuggle them in there for a discount and.
All of a sudden, somebody in the ticket office figured it out, and the Orange Crush chip readman got outwitted by Gary Barda.
And they put a stop to that.
They turned around, kept the money, but they gave the tickets to the Boys and Girls Clubs there in Cedar Rapids.
And, you know, it's one of those things where I'm glad it happened because there's been a lot of bad blood between Iowa and Illinois over the years, especially with Bruce Pearl.
was an assistant coach under the great Dr. Tom Davis, where we turned in Illinois for sanctions because they were giving people vehicles and things like that.
But this is going to elevate that rivalry even more, I think.
And I think that's good not only for Iowa, but also the Big Ten moving forward.
Absolutely.
You want rivalries need a little bit of spice, something to get people talking, a little bit of trash talk, never hurt anybody.
And that is bizarre.
It's interesting that something almost went right down on the calendar.
The barter did something good like that and caught them and shut them down.
It's almost hilarious, actually, when you think about it, that they couldn't cover it up a little bit better than they did.
And they actually got caught and got called.
They actually tracked down the person and made the phone call to him where they admitted what they did.
It's kind of funny to look back and have those kind of things happen.
But on the other hand,
You know, on the Iowa side, you sure don't want to see it actually happen.
You'd like to see it definitely nip in the bud before those people start coming in.
And then there's a great gesture to put it out to the, what you said, Cedar Rapids Boys and Girls Club.
is definitely a great way to solve the issue.
and look good at the same time.
It's definitely a win-win for Iowa and the Boys and Girls Club.
We're going to have a couple great weeks of basketball moving forward.
Thanks again for joining us this morning, Chip Reidman on the line, on our Newsmaker line here on KXEL.
And we're going to kick it off to John, who's got another great interview lined up for us.
Well Scotty we've moved into February that means in less than four weeks It's March and whenever March comes I call it spring even if it's the first of March because that snow can't melt very strongly and I always get a kick out of Groundhog Day that we had earlier this week on February 2nd It seems like the groundhog always sees his shadow but Scotty six weeks from Groundhog Day
is the first day of spring.
I mean, come on, man.
Yeah, exactly.
After all these years, I'm surprised that Groundhog just, you know, he's kind of hibernating.
I'm surprised he hasn't bit somebody, you know, after being bothered all this time that they're at Jobbler's knob.
The classic Groundhog day story, though.
There are two forever esch in my memory.
One, of course, is the Great Bill Murray movie, which has deep theological and philosophical undertones.
Oh, you could peel that onion a thousand different ways.
But the other one is these left-wing mayors.
What is it with them, Scott Curry?
Mayor Mike Bloomberg killed the New York City groundhog.
He flinched like a choking dog.
He had an iron glove on.
and the groundhog attached in Bloomberg said, he looked like the guy in the Godfather when he saw the horses said, he flung that poor innocent groundhog off of the iron glove that he had on his hand.
Now, Bloomberg was at a podium on a dais on top of the stage.
That groundhog fell what, 20 feet to his death of internal hemorrhaging of the brain.
That's just a choking flincher, Mike Bloomberg.
How can you respect a guy that kills the groundhog?
You know, that's a great point too, John.
And you know, it's kind of symptomatic of how he governed that city
for all
those years too.
But you know, it's one of those things too, where here in the Midwest, we...
You know, we don't go by groundhogs.
We go about how my knee feels and my shoulder
feels.
At my age, this is starting to, well, the doctor knows all about this.
Dr. David Hartsuch, the honorable Dr. David Hartsuch, because he is once and forever a state senator in Iowa from the Scott...
County area.
So many of our listeners have had Doc on with us regularly before.
Let's look just on the Clear Channel 50,000 watt blowtorch here at KXEL.
Dr. Hartstarch, welcome back to the show.
Hi, John.
It's great to be here today.
How are you doing?
You are the great physician that we were doing great.
You're the great physician, the great curer, the curer, the healer, and you've got a guest with you today.
I'm going to kick it off.
with you and take it away, Dr. Hartsich.
Hi, John.
Well, anyhow,
I'm here with Tony, and I really, you know, in the past, you've always said that I always cheer people, and I wish that were the case, because today, Tony is going to be talking about what happened as his mother, and I'm sad to say that...
She had COVID and she ended up dying from that in the hospital.
And Tony, how are you doing?
Good guys, thanks for having me.
You know, what you went through with your family and your mother is very common, I think, in this COVID.
So many patients were brought, put in the hospital, and didn't come out.
And I wanted, you know, what was your experience with the hospital and what was your mother and family experience in the care you got in the hospital?
Well, my experience in the hospital was overall a negative one.
My mother had been suffering from COVID for about 12 days before I decided to make the call and get her into the hospital and immediately.
I told the hospital staff upon arrival that I did not want her on remdesivir for my request and the rest of my family's request.
And they were questioning why that was the case.
And I asked, you know, if she could
She could be put on Ivermectin and they declined that and ended up putting her on Remdesivir anyway, even though I requested that she not be put on Remdesivir while in the hospital.
And she was in the hospital for approximately three weeks or better.
Were there limitations on your family visits with her?
Yes, there were.
Yes, there were.
They were only allowing one family visitor for approximately one to two hours per day.
I was able to get around that.
myself using different ways to get up there and give her a second visitor a day, thankfully.
But yeah, there's restrictions on how many visitors and at what times she could have those visitors for the majority of the time that she was there.
Do you think the lack of visitation affected your mother's attitude
or her view of her life?
I'm sure it probably did, you know, the lack thereof as far as visitation time.
probably had an effect on her spirits mentally and her overall outlook on getting out of there, which never occurred.
You know, we were talking earlier when John called and we were talking about the boards and how they really created this environment where people do not get early treatment with hyaluronic and hydroxychloric in our other treatment.
Was that the case with your mother?
That's correct.
They didn't want to hear anything else other than
attempting to give her Ivermectin.
They were explaining the situations to her without anybody present and with her feeling well and in the state she was, she probably couldn't make total to coherent choices and it was almost forced upon her to take this remdesivir in my belief.
So did she get to her room?
Well, she ended up signing off on the waiver and they ended up giving her room to the beer.
But I want to say one or two days before we got wind of it.
the kibosh to
it.
Well, so the family really was not permitted to be there with her to help her with these.
How old is your mother, by the
way?
My mother was 84 and a half and in good health all the way around and very active before coming down with COVID, which ended up turning into a pneumonia.
Wow.
And
I know that it was a real tragedy, a real loss for your whole family.
I got to know your family very well in this process.
And I really appreciate you being on today to talk about it.
What were your other particular things that you would tell other family members whose loved ones were in the hospital with COVID?
What
would you say to them?
I've encouraged them the best I could.
And ultimately, I don't think the hospital
Even though it's a last-ditch resort is the best option to take somebody in need.
I'm very leery of hospitals anymore myself because of this whole ordeal and what their intentions are.
And if things they choose to do are just money makers for certain drug companies or the hospitals, like them pushing this Remdesivir.
John, so do you have
questions for Tony?
No, we're coming to the end of our segment here.
This was so poignant, and you could have heard a pin drop in this studio here.
And Tony, I want to tell you that as an emeritus state representative, as an attorney, duly licensed in two states, including Iowa, with a radio voice on 12 stations.
We're going to continue to fight for you.
And in future shows, we're going to unfold this Gordian knot of corruption among the nexus between the lobbyists in the state legislature in Iowa.
Iowa legislature in the houses of the Senate and the House.
Members are
owned by big health care.
You've got people taking Pfizer donations.
You've got a stranglehold on the legislature and the legislators by the hospital and nursing home industries.
I will start to peel this onion back in future episodes as this program brings truth to power.
Many of us
are in this with you, Tony.
And Dr. Hartsich has been heroic through this process.
One thing that we're short of these days is raw courage, intestinal fortitude.
David Hartsich has this in great quantities.
And sometimes it just takes a creative minority, a John the Baptist, to really shake things up.
And Hartsich has convinced many of us
and he has been vindicated over the last three years.
So guys, we hope to visit with you each again.
Tony, our condolences, but you, by being on today, are advancing the ball for us by getting the truth out there and getting the discussion going.
Thank you, Tony.
Thank you, Dr. Hartzich.
Thank you, Tony.
It really took a lot of courage to get up and say what you said today.
Appreciate
it.
Guys, so bring thoughts for the day, but...
necessary for the ongoing dialogue to protect our Iowans and not hurt them.
The physician's first rule is do no harm and we're going to now press this with the legislature to do the right thing.
Scotty, when we hear that Mike Shane ringtone, that's like our
all points bulletin our net alert we're talking serious stuff when you hear that great old sounder for a quarter century that is now tucked into the immemorial posterity brain of Mike Shane you know he gets to claim that because he was at that vaunted microphone during those times and we're welcoming back the show that theme is for our heroic doctor
Ted Fogarty, Edward Fogarty, Omaha Native.
This guy is a national superstar in terms of curative medicine, I call it, Scott, on the cutting edge, hyperbarics, COVID interdiction.
This guy
has a record and it's been vindicated.
My goodness, the guy has won CARES grants for crying out loud.
Not only that, you know, he's in multiple states and we even found out that he's even got connections to your favorite university, LSU.
There's
certain volleyball player you really like at
LSU.
I have named Livy Dunn, sportswoman of the year, yes, because of her capitalistic savvy, that's why.
But since we are in Iowa, Caitlin Clark is 1B then, is that correct?
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
We'll tie him, we'll tie him both.
But Dr. Ted, so great to have you, so great to have you back on the show here.
Hey, everyone listens to KXEL.
You have a little story to tell, my friend.
Absolutely, you guys.
The strangest thing happened to me last night.
I'm out to dinner with the family out here in Ogallala, Nebraska.
This is way west of Nebraska for Iowa fans.
Ogallala ain't near Omaha.
You gotta go west, young man.
Horace Greeley style.
Yeah, you're almost in Denver there.
Yeah, well, it's the top of the old Chisholm Trail.
It's the place where all the cattle were run up from Texas in Oklahoma to get on the railroads.
east and west from here, but yeah, so we're having our usual family dinner at our favorite Mexican place and in the course of the dinner I end up meeting four people from out of the KAC-TL listening area in the Cedar Rapids area directly in Waterloo area and we got to talking to some of these folks and it was two different parties actually, one at the beginning of dinner and then
And then a second episode of meeting people in the KXEL listening area at the end of dinner.
And we got to talking about stuff and Iowa politics.
And so I told the crowd that was just sitting down to dinner after we were just leaving to listen to the Jacobson group.
And I got to thank KXEL and you guys because free speech in America is getting really, really
well
doc my my free speech is considered divisive when I try to bring more people into the party and when I try to hold our fellow legislators to their own party platform all I do is try to build the party larger and keep us to our principles and I get called out for being disruptive and disunifying so I'm doubling down doc free speech baby all the way
Yeah, he gets
free speech,
but just not at home with Mrs. Jacobson.
He tells the line right there.
Wipe your dirty feet.
Wipe your dirty
feet.
Yes, ma'am.
I've seen that recently
actually.
Oh yeah, you're an overnight guest at the house.
It's like that scene from The Quiet Man, where when Scotty and I come to the house, it's like John Wayne and Victor McLaughlin coming back after they've made their peace and Merino Harris got dinner ready and, woman of the house, I have brought the brother home to sup.
Wipe your feet!
Yes ma'am.
Well, um...
you know on on on those matters yeah and how you've been persecuted um you know former
give us a little candidate for the state of minnesota doctor scott jensen is now getting yet another attack on his medical license
and the attorney general from minnesota is actually leading the show on this on the latest attack
it's like this like other going after carry lake in arizona if you dare to question the establishment now we got the point where they're criminalizing it
yes absolutely and and in main now
an ongoing suspension of Merrill Nass' license.
Listen to this, John.
Dr. Merrill Nass is a published author on
bio weapons and she was the first person in american medicine to actually identify the first anthrax attack in in an african civil war thirty five forty years ago and now and now that and now the state of maine is going after her for saving the life of a pregnant woman with hydroxychloroquine
i mean unbelievable this is going on i'll tell you
doc
doc i'll tell you
what's going on
absolutely criminal and it's absolutely the inhibition of the free speech rights of physicians.
And as we have learned from our dear colleague, former Iowa Senator David Hartsuch, Dr. David Hartsuch, informed consent also includes the free speech rights of physicians to communicate with their patients.
Of course.
Doc, it goes beyond just a political battle.
This truly is spiritual warfare at a level that we have never seen in our lifetimes.
It is malevolent like a wraith hanging above us.
It is a malevolent wraith.
Not only that.
But the seats of our souls, our very brains, are under attack.
There are reports coming out from the international literature now that we are seeing on MRIs.
I'm a radiologist.
I read MRIs at night all over the state of Iowa and other adjacent neighboring states except for Minnesota.
And we are now seeing by MRI, mad powdery, developing people who have
who have had a very strange reaction to these vaccines, and it may be a limited amount of the vaccine injuries, but when people's brains are being taken down, when people start to become really psychotic after these vaccines, and you read the Bible, and you understand revelation, and you see how this whole system is getting set up to create a Mark of the Beast system for commerce, where if you do not participate in this
murderous trees in this racket and become part of some sort of global community based on submission to this beast system.
You
no longer going to be able to commerce in this great country or in any other country and Bill Gates who is funding the World Health Organization has the World Health Organization getting ready to take over America.
to American physicians exactly how we practice medicine.
This whole pandemic rollout was Tony Fauci doing that.
Now it's going to the next level.
It's going to the World Health Organization.
Dr. Ted Fogarty, I will say this.
In the banking and finance world, there is literally a push.
to go cashless, to have everything electronic, and clearly the social scoring point system down the line to be even able to qualify for mortgage or credit.
They are now monitoring any types of withdrawals or deposits as if they're all suspicious.
It really is bone chilling.
It is beyond where or well.
Even had a stock Ted Fogarty and I think for me as a 62 year old man for me to see this all happen in two generations It's astonishing.
It's astonishing.
Yeah, it really is and as a 52 year old physician.
I can't believe how quickly
how quickly our professional society just basically caved into all of this.
Well, and legislators, you know, in federal and state bodies, I mean, these guys take money from big pharma, from the big hospitals, these guys are bought and sold, Dr. Ted Fogarty.
Yeah, well, and in the medical rank, here's the other issue, though.
It's the students that...
who I used to teach as the chair of radiology up in North Dakota.
It's the students who were not the smartest, not the brightest, who are dictating to everyone else from public health and pediatrics and infectious disease.
There is a built-in communism
Communist manifesto in these specialties.
They have all been trained to treat people like herds of cattle rather than individual people.
That's not true of the surgeon.
That's not
true of the
interventional radiologist.
No, they're commoditizing.
They're commoditizing human beings, which is which is evil.
And Hippocrates would would be absolutely appalled at this commoditization of human beings and human souls.
Absolutely.
And, you know, what am I doing about it?
So I've got
some very close friends, basically in the legislature, who are writing up some incredible bills.
They are a conservative pastor and farmer, Jeff Hulverson, and Senator Jeff Magrum.
Conservative voices around the country that are looking at these bills that these two and their very conservative colleagues up in the North Dakota legislature that they're putting together some of the best bills in the country to fight this lawfare war.
And one of them is House Bill 1111.
which is basically putting out a statement that there's to be no extra jurisdictional control of the physicians or any healthcare portion of the North Dakota economy by the World Health Organization or any other international organizations.
And I've got a bill going up that I'm helping write with Jeff Magrum.
It's the mRNA bill.
It's going to have a whole new chapter in the North Dakota sensory code that deals with the truth of the matter.
that these things that are being called vaccines are being called vaccines for liability protection.
That's absolutely true.
That's well known.
Yeah, that's well known.
They are gene therapy systems that were developed 10 years ago to help fight cancer.
And they are materially, they are not vaccines in any shape or fashion under international property precedent law.
You're absolutely
correct.
From their original intention and they
And literally Moderna and Pfizer have called these things in past scientific reports, gene therapy.
Yeah, absolutely.
And well, I'm frustrated in Iowa, Doc, that we're not getting more movement in Iowa.
And that's the whole we're going to open that up a little bit and peel that back like a soft peanut here coming up.
But we've also got our other platforms.
You'll hear Dr. Fogarty on continuing on a lot of our other platforms.
Scott and I have some other radio platforms.
This is great news today.
Doc, you've got a clinic.
How should folks get in touch with you if they want to get in touch with you further?
Oh, my amazing partner, Dr. Bradley Russell Meyer, who is...
Great American, great American.
You know, he's had to go in front of the board, too, for doing the right thing.
And he is taking care of people at...
Spirit Lake at Aeronautics Performance Clinic.
Our wonderful practice is at aeronauticsperformance.com online and you can find us on Facebook at aeronauticsperformance.
That's with an X at the end instead of CS.
Thepurplepowder.com is an easier way to remember on the radio where to go online and you can navigate to the aeronautics clinic from there.
And 712-339-6024 is our phone number.
We are working on getting veterans into our clinic from out of the County of Los Iowa area and there's going to be just some incredible things moving forward with your great help, John, in these next few months.
So hopefully people in the...
Eastern Iowa area can get up to the clinic, especially this summer when everybody's going to be going to Okavocchi and most of Iowa anyway.
Well I can proudly say doctor that on this beautiful Saturday morning I was just up there yesterday at Spirit Lake.
I had a bank client up there and of course got to stop by the clinic.
Amen brother.
It is singularly the most important healing space in America right now with what Doc Meyer is doing.
I'm
saving up my money so I can buy one of those units, man.
My head will clear and I can write with great prosaic brilliance.
Guys, Dr. Ted Fogarty, our hero, your hero on KXCL will be back with Doc next week.
Thanks, Dr. Fogarty.
You, John, and just remember, there's no one else in the great state of Iowa reversing dementia with regularity except for Aaron Arc's performance.
Scotty, so many things to talk about, so little time.
It's a good thing engineer Mike Shane can compress two hours worth in a mere hour.
all sorts of tricks he can weave there and Scott I love February because look the days are lengthening it was dark at 445 around Christmas New Year's Scott 545 I'm at the branch the other night it's still light out and the weather will improve but we've got this wonderful juxtaposition of spring trainings not far away we had signing day with football and portal activity
Hoops are all over the place.
It's great to be a Hawkeye right now and a panther and a cyclone and a bulldog.
Yeah, absolutely, John.
And it's going to be one of those great runs to the finish line here for a conference play,
not only the
big 12, the big 10.
And you and I is going to be competing for their conference tournament here, too.
And so there's a lot going on.
And, you know, we have to give a lot of credit to Jeff Stein at KXEL for letting us on the radio.
And, you know, Mike's been trying to figure out a way to hack that system where he actually gives us two hours next time.
We just haven't told Jeff that, though.
Jeff's a great grammarian because he just sent me a text message.
He says, No, it's
It's not you and I is going to be competitive.
It's you and me is going to be competitive.
So, uh, I think Jeff missed the memo there somehow, but he tried,
you know, he gave us the old college try, you know, kind of like a Nebraska kicker.
So, you know, it's just one of those great things, but, you know, we couldn't do it without Jeff's Jeff over there at KXEL as well as our audience.
So grateful to have them a part of this team.
We are, we're not even announcing our first retirement, let alone our second retirement.
We're not Tom Brady here.
Lord willing, we're going to be with you next week.
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