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John Jacobson here on the Jacobson group with Scott Corey and Mike Shane on this beautiful January weekend in Iowa also listening to us on the FM band of 100.5.

hit that podcast later kxl.com slash jacobson group some of you are listening live on your computers right now welcome welcome scotty we got a great show what's been happening in dc as republicans work through their continuing growing pains of becoming a party of the 21st century a party that has not won the popular vote in a general election now

in 20 years.

We've got a fantastic special report showing that what's going on in DC with McCarthy and the Republicans in the house, a microcosm of that is happening right now in Iowa across the state.

We're taking a look at Pot County today.

It always seems like politics, everything is local and we are just proving that.

And sometimes Iowa kind of mirrors everything that goes on in DC.

So it's going to be a very interesting report.

We're grateful that Sarah Abduche was able to join us today.

And you know, we'd be remiss

if we didn't talk a little about the upcoming championship Sunday where we have Joe Burrow, the Cincinnati Bengals taking on Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs as well as the Philadelphia Eagles taking on the San Francisco 49ers, the beloved 49ers.

George Kittle from Iowa and Brock Purdy of Iowa State have done something that the Des Moines Register hasn't done forever and that's unify the state of Iowa.

Let's not forget Iowa hasn't been this unified since the Des Moines Register went after Carson King a few years ago.

on his tweets.

So great job.

It's going to be a great show, John.

It is, Scotty.

Scotty has the quotes of the show so far.

It's going to be hard to top that.

Buckle up.

Stand by.

Let's roll.

Oh,

Scotty and Mike, it's so exciting today, particularly with the report she's going to give us today.

the matriarch of commerce in cedar rapids iowa our fan favorite barbara hams bryant of hams homes and barbara you wear many hats and you are in the vaunted position of helping to ring in this inaugural governor

of Iowa ceremonial last week this official inauguration inaugural ball how exciting for you and you got to fill us in you were there with the ceremonial mace leading them into the ballroom and into the uh swearing in barber what was it like

oh john it was so amazing i got a chance to be on the inaugural committee

So I was able to sit near the front for the actual inauguration of Adam Gregg and then Kim Reynolds.

And I just couldn't be more proud to be in Iowa.

We're in good hands under good leadership.

It's a great day to be in

Iowa.

I'm really proud that this Marion Hiawatha Cedar Rapids little girl that I knew from way back is

Become this huge important player of the the ceremonial ritual Scott.

There's something about America with its beautiful.

It is partly Marshall its ceremonial

its ritual, but that formalities of investiture of office.

It goes back to Eliakim and Shibna in the book of Isaiah.

There's this handing over the keys, so to speak, the ceremonial formality.

And it was done with great class.

We got to give Barbara

great credit.

You know, absolutely.

And Barbara, you know, it's something that I think a lot of our listeners don't realize is that how instrumental you have been is being not only the face of

of the inauguration, so to speak, in the committee, but also all the work that goes on behind the scenes.

We talk about the pomp and circumstance that the viewers and the listeners saw last Friday, but there's also the community-based efforts that went on, you know, working for the food banks and the pantries that the inaugural committee also worked with and the governor's committee.

Talk to us a little bit about that as well.

I don't think folks realize that the governor's inauguration is not paid for by one penny of taxpayer money.

It's all done by donations.

And everyone that attends helps to fund what you said, food pantries and other nonprofit organizations.

It's a great way to have fun and support a great cause at the same time.

Barbara talked to us just a little bit too because word on the straight that I saw was you basically stole the show and that some of our Representatives and senators were kind of a little jealous about how Everybody was making their way over to talk to you and and to kiss the ring a little bit talk

to us a little bit

about that

I Don't know who you talk

There's being talk it's all over social media now.

I'm not saying John and I put it there, but it's there

Oh, you guys are such kidders.

Barbara, it's, uh, it's such a testimony to the transition.

We always have this peaceful transition of power and, uh, there has been this marvelous transition intergenerationally at Hames homes.

I so admired the legacy that was built by your

Late great father and mother Kurt and Norma Hames now you and your siblings carrying that torch so boldly and now That too is being up that light is passed on through the next generation or two What is it about the family business?

That just keeps you guys so motivated.

I know it's Reputational pride its legacy its service.

I mean providing people

with beautiful, aesthetic, comfortable, safe, sturdy, affordable homes.

I cannot think of a service.

that any human being can provide that is more important, Scott, is foundational, Scott.

You know, absolutely.

And we always talk about the American dream.

And at the cornerstone of the American dream is having an affordable home.

And Barbara, your community is affordable.

Talk to us a little bit about how people can go online.

Is there a phone number they could call to take a tour as well as see some of the amenities that you have in your facilities?

We are so proud of our manufactured homes and our manufactured home communities.

When my dad retired from the Army in 1969, Kurt and Norma Haynes founded Haynes Homes in Marion, Iowa.

And what started out as just a small dealership is now a three-generational, multifaceted family business.

And we're very proud of that.

Our parents taught us well, provide people with good service, good homes, good quality, and life is what you make of it.

To reach us, the best way is Haynes.

homes.com or visit us seven days a week at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road Southwest in Cedar Rapids.

We'd love to have people come out and see how much manufactured homes.

have improved in the past 50 years.

Now, is there a waiting list?

Do you have open inventory?

If somebody's looking right now, they could maybe schedule a tour and see about some financing because interest rates are still on the rise.

Barbara, can they lock those interest rates in?

Good questions.

We have a great inventory of both new and pre-owned homes and we have still great interest rates on manufactured home loans for our customers.

Barbara, I just want you to know that

You're even famous on the western edge of the state.

Billionaire Pete Ricketts just transferred power to his hand-picked successor.

Jim Pillon, our new governor over on the Nebraska side, former Husker football player.

And there was that hot mic, open mic moment at the inauguration where they said, this is okay, but I wish we had Barbara

Haymes.

You know, that's true because it was all over the radio stations in Omaha, John and so Barbara, you're kind of a legend, not only there, you're going across the Midwest.

And so we really hope we can keep you here because

You know, the Iowa caucuses are just right around the corner and you will be hand picking our next president once you bar brush.

You guys it's getting thick around here.

Let me tell you

We're just trying to get this cavalcade build up for Hames for office, you know So someday

you're very you're very very clever and I'm very very flattered and what I really want to do is so beautiful affordable housing to Eastern Iowa working families

if you guys drive through these awesome neighborhoods you will be mesmerized it is

Rockwellian America to see these beautiful safe neighborhoods, the lighting, the decor of American festive flags, the Christmas lights, the streets that are plowed, the lawns that are manicured.

Barbara, it's really these are aesthetic, just beautiful neighborhoods and your de facto mayor there with that beautiful office, you're on site helping these folks with any issues that crop up.

That's right.

We're hands-on owner operators.

We're not out of state corporations making business calls from 2000 miles away.

We know our neighbors.

We love our neighbors and we love the people who live in our neighborhoods.

Well, it was it was really a great coming full circle heading up that inaugural ball.

Your dad and mom would be so pleased.

Barbara, it's a joy speaking with you.

We're going to talk to you again next week with this resurgent Hawkeye basketball team.

Go Hawks!

Go Hawks!

Barbara Hames!

Ladies and gentlemen, Hames Homes.

Take a look at these beautiful living communities.

We'll talk to Barbara next week.

We got some award shows coming up, John, and we couldn't do it without the great Dr. Jeff Steina KXEL as well as our listeners.

So grateful and our sponsors too.

Couldn't do this without the sponsors.

Yeah, Barbara Hames Bryant from Hames Homes who heads up the Iowa Federation of Republican Women as well as doctors Ted Fogarty and Brad Meyer with her great

aeronautics clinic out of Spirit Lake and David Hartzitz from the Quad Cities.

Mike Shane is our engineer.

He makes everything sound crisp clear with perfection.

Where's that sound or the Mike Shane Sounder?

He used to come on the news when I was in college and with this sounder, he would build out everything going on tornadoes.

Durecho's

blizzards, flash

floods, Mike Shane saved the day.

We're so lucky to have him here piping through Eastern Iowa.

Guys, we've done some terrific segments on this show, some terrific series.

We're still getting rave reviews on the JFK assassination theory.

Let's bring up our Copeland theme song as Edward R. Murrow would appreciate our homage to him and his CBS reports.

Honesty in government.

You know, Scotty and I, we have made this the theme of ours.

I have just retired from my run in the Iowa legislature and I feel like I escaped.

without ever forfeiting my conscience, and while retaining my undefeated status, Scott, there are two other Iowa legislators that I put in that caliber.

Rob Taylor and Greg Hartzell.

They each served the same amount of time I did, just under eight years.

Neither of those guys ever flinched or played ball, ever.

And I admire them greatly.

And I admire someone today who's our special guest.

She was part of a group of heroines.

Scotty, the women, the young, beautiful, young Republican women took charge the other night at the Potawatomi County Central Committee meeting to try to enfranchise more people, to try to open up the party to a more diverse group of people.

You know, I'm a businessman.

One thing I liked about Trump was he came from the private sector and hadn't

everything in his lifetime compensation wasn't dependent on a government job, a staffer job, an elected job.

And Sarah Abduche is here with us.

Some of you may remember her as Sarah Hardiman.

She's now married.

Sarah Abduche.

She's from Council Bluffs.

And the other night, Sarah, there was a great attempt to expand the Republican Party, particularly in

Potawatomi.

Can you walk through that a little bit?

I think this is so important that we do this.

And we had 30 great people that were knocking at the door to get in, some from very diverse backgrounds.

Take it away, Sarah.

So our studio audience here is on their feet, applauding Sarah.

on this beautiful weekend in January in Iowa.

Sarah, welcome again and take it away.

Thanks so much, John.

I really appreciate being here.

Um, yeah.

So the incident you're talking about, actually, I don't even know if I would characterize it as, uh, just, Hey, we're trying to add people and, you know, enfranchise them.

Actually, really what we were trying to do is just ordinary business as the central committee.

Um, a lot of people don't kind of understand, I think that these, these central committees, uh, they are actually a very, very important part of the.

overall political process.

If you wonder where sort of things start to go wrong, it's right here at the very base of everything.

And again,

to orient our readers, you're talking about Potawatomi County,

which

is on the other side of the river adjacent to Omaha for all of our Eastern Iowa listeners would include Council Bluffs.

Correct.

Yeah.

And honestly, you know, it is something that is we're talking about this in the context of Potawatomi County and Council Bluffs.

But what I would say is

Take a look at your local area and see what groups are sort of leading there, what your local government officials are like, because I guarantee you, if you have problems that just can't seem to be solved, that's where it starts.

Sir, is it fair to say that there is an old guard that like Gollum refuses to let go of the precious?

Yes.

And the only reason I say that actually is because.

This is about as high as I think some of these people can climb And that's not to be not to be mean, but it's just it's kind of a fact of where we're at

Well, sir, if you can be a congressional staffer for 20 years, you are a millionaire.

That is a fact.

Yeah Yeah, and and those positions are always going to attract people who are you know attracted to that kind of

potential.

But in this case, like I said, I'm a member of the Central Committee, just an ordinary member, you know, run of the mill essentially.

And we were told that there was not going to be a January Central Committee meeting because there weren't going to be any legislators who could attend.

And

to a lot of us that was very offensive because the legislators not being there is is not the the purpose like obviously we really appreciate it when the legislators come when they can give us a readout but that's not the purpose of these meetings at all.

And just to clarify Sarah too that the platform that the chair and the co-chair ran on for Potawatomi County was to have monthly meetings isn't that correct?

Correct.

And so after they had their special election in December they decided to

basically forgo their platform the following week.

Yeah, actually, I'll say it's even worse than that.

So they had their special election right at the end of November, and then we didn't have an official meeting in December.

All we had was a potluck that no business was done at, and then we had a canceled meeting for January.

And they said, well, we just didn't even schedule it, so you can't call it canceled.

Well, if you said we're going to have monthly meetings, then that's a canceled meeting.

And just to clarify too, in previous Central Committee meetings during the session, when the

The legislature is in session in Des Moines.

A lot of times for those couple months, sometimes the legislators aren't there just because of the time restrictions and stuff like that.

They weren't voting the other night.

It's too early in the year.

Other than the education vote last week, you know, they could have come back.

Yeah.

So I think there's a seems to be a kind of a lot of smoke going on right now that for lack of a better term is a kind of a, I don't know if the cabal is the right word to use.

I

think that's not far off.

And, you know, since the

an entire Republican delegation that serves under the majority leader there in Pot County, since the entire Republican delegation voted against the governor's keystone piece of legislation.

And arguably, Sarah, you lost a fifth seat, went to Democrat by six votes when frankly you did not get Republican support.

Basically, I think there's a little bit of embarrassment.

on the party's part that there are four representatives in that county serving under the majority leader who did support.

the bill, but the other four did not.

That was the only county in Iowa where you had four Republican refused next there.

Uh, basically parroting the kind of things that, uh, the Democrat was saying.

Yeah.

Well, and that's one of the reasons why I say that I

support governor Reynolds.

I, I support the Republican platform.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I think we, I think we all do.

That's why we're, we're a part of the party.

Uh, but no, I think you're, you're very correct.

And that's why I say if you have.

Local problems those are going to be felt across the board They're gonna they're you're gonna feel them in places that you didn't you didn't even expect so in this case specifically you're right because our central committee is extraordinarily mismanaged, you know, they say never never attribute to Malice what could be attributed to sheer incompetence There's a lot of that going on but

what both or one or do you care to elaborate

a little bit on

that?

Clearly you have an element where I counted the other night.

There were maybe 80 people in the room.

I think there were four people there under the age of 60.

Sarah, you were one of them

under the

age of 60.

I think you miss cook Mr. DeSalvo and give me a minute and I'll think of.

Another

one I

think

my wife

my

wife I'd have a long weekend that's right

I had I had put her down I was trying to do the other night how many people there were under 60 and That there is an old guard element which includes a lot of you know people like

Staffers that have drawn, you know, nice salaries over the years and some failed

candidates as well.

Yes.

Yes.

Some, some failed candidates.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

And kind of springboarding off of that.

So whenever we said, Hey, you know, we, we've had business and, and it's actually funny because they characterized this is very like new business.

Like, Oh, they've never heard of this before.

We're rushing it.

This is stuff we've been working on for over a year and trying to get them to pick up.

We've always had a sense committee members during the course of the years.

of caucus

have done that for decades.

Oh, yes.

Yes.

Well,

and just to clarify, too, we the party central committee has added new members when there's there are vacancies and there are a ton of vacancies for the Pottawatomie County Central Committee that you were just trying to fill to bring in, you know, more hands help, you know, help with

any vacancies.

It's like we're not even trying to pump our lungs so that we can breathe with both lungs.

Yes.

Well, and so there's a couple of things.

And this is, you know, it's a little bit

inside baseball, but I think it's helpful to be a little illustrative in this case because we have had issues for quite a long time where the executive committee does have a lot of the work to do, and we don't have the subcommittees necessarily that are supposed to be handling things like election preparation and things like that.

Prades, gun forums, community town hall

events,

things along those lines.

That's

what these committees basically do to help get the message out.

as well as to get Republicans elected.

Yeah.

And they're very, very vital.

We haven't had them, at least in the two years prior to this.

We haven't had them last year.

There are standing committees required by either the Constitution or bylaws that weren't even populated.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

But it's really important because these standing committees have not existed and they haven't been populated.

And that was one of the things we're saying, hey, we need this to occur.

And they're like, well, we have all this work to

do, and it's always on the same people's shoulders.

Well, they actually spun up on their own.

The executive committee met, spun up some committees, some of them, they actually missed some of the required committees, and then they made the created new ones.

Well, they saw the light because they felt the heat

that you had put on.

Well, here's the funny thing about it.

They populated those subcommittees by fiat.

Just on their own.

They said these are the people who are going to be a part of them.

And guess what?

It's all the exact same people.

So if the burden is so great... There was a person, the

husband of the chair took an unelected role that

came out of nowhere.

Correct.

It was pure nepotism.

Yes.

And he actually gets to choose who is going to be put forth before the committee now to be added as members.

That's extra

constitutional and

not part of the bylaws.

Correct.

Just to clarify for our listeners too, in order to be basically added after the caucuses to a central committee role, that person comes to a committee meeting, introduces him or herself to the committee, gives a quick bio, says, you know, there's a vacancy.

I'd like to be on it.

And then the sub, the

following meeting they're basically approved by you know overwhelming majority saying absolutely we want this person on there so it's not like we've actually had a person a czar saying well this person meets the qualifications for that committee so he's good enough it's basically first come first served if you're a Republican and have a pulse and over 18 you're on the committee basically isn't that it

yes yeah that's how it's been in the past but right now because they have a very very

Very narrow balance of power right now.

They have about 33 people who will always vote for them and right now That's enough to gain a majority in the central committee as it's made

when you refuse to allow new members that that's how they keep control

They don't allow any new members because if they did, they'd start losing votes.

Well, it'll upset their balance.

Um, if they're not sure about where those people are going to vote, it might mean that their 10 vote margin or whatever that they have right now is, is going to narrow and that's just unacceptable.

And, uh, also to kind of qualify and quantify a little bit of this, some of these members that were trying to be new members of the central committee, they've been on in the past.

They just weren't able to attend the Iowa caucuses last time to be on there due to, uh,

travel or health issues or or whatever.

These are literally the finest people in our community.

They've been civic servants.

They're respected without question.

It was it was a serious slap in the face of those people.

There were many people that went out of their incredulous and wounded and I think incredible damage was done to the volunteer base now for the upcoming

next election.

Yeah.

Well, and there's a couple of elements to that that are also very concerning to me.

Because one thing that the chair actually said, they said, well, you know, if you miss the caucuses, all you have to do is reach out to me.

I miss the caucuses, not this last time around, but two years before that.

And I actually did that.

I reached out and I said, Hey, I miss the caucuses.

Can you please add me to the thing?

And I was I never was

one gentleman testified to hearing that he was

Removed correct unilaterally arbitrarily.

Yes

membership.

He held

well and actually so on that point That's actually a really good point because the reason he was removed was because he publicly disagreed with some elements of the Republican Party on Facebook and that's actually something that the chairperson said Whenever they were questioned about why he was not on the rolls now What's really important about that is something I don't think a lot of people are talking about even even in in our group

It's that one of the first things they said was this new committee that they've spun up who's going to vet the candidates for Central Committee.

One of the things that they are going to take into account is public adherence to Republican

Unity and they actually said that they're going to look at like their online profile and make sure that they're good Republicans and things like that and that to me like was it was sending up so many red flags and then later They had the audacity to say we're not going to actually be you know

You know, we're only going to be checking to make sure these people are eligible.

You know, they're not going to be actually selecting them.

Well, John, you know, he talked about the so-called social media profile of a lot of Republicans.

I'm looking at the social media profile, a lot of congressmen, senators and governors, and they wouldn't even meet that qualification to be on the central committee of Pottawatomie County, which is Council Bluffs and the outlying cities.

Well, it's ironic that my comments were not appreciated.

I was so supportive of the governor's

education plank.

And when we had four elected representatives that were against the governor's education plank, and yet they're the highly favored ones that cannot even be criticized whatsoever.

I think when you have a county party organization that is backing the Democrats major policy plank, not the Republicans, you have a bit of a trouble there.

And I almost sensed an implicit threat maybe to

question tax exempt status of some of the other organizations that some of those members were there participating.

I thought I heard a veiled threat.

You know, that that raises some serious questions too.

And, you know, Sarah, talk to us a little bit about this because Pottawatomie County is basically it is a Republican dominated county, but independence and then Democrats follow them based on the percentages of voter makeup.

But

Pottawatomie County, especially in primaries and caucuses, is what would be considered a top 10 county.

So it's very influential, especially going into the presidential caucuses or primaries, that you get the unified message to get those Republicans out to vote.

And if you're seeing division in January of 2023 already,

I shudder to think how effective this county organization will be moving forward to bringing out the Republican candidates that are going to be running for president, that will be running on the ballot in less than a year from now.

That really is concerning because it seems like they're saying, well, if you don't meet this criteria, you're not even welcome in the county.

Yeah, and I genuinely, the thing I'm most concerned about is the fairness, actually, because I don't think that all Republican candidates will be treated equally.

They

certainly weren't in your instance, Sarah.

Oh, no.

It's unforgivable.

We have a radical left representative now in the seat that you were vying for.

You lost by six votes.

And frankly, if the state GOP had lifted a finger to help you, you would have won that.

They clearly didn't want you in Des Moines, as they didn't want me initially, much their chagrin, because you are a reformer.

And Scotty, I know you get a kick out of this.

I'm Catholic, but you know me.

I proudly proclaim myself.

as the Martin Luther leading reform of the Republican Party in the state of Iowa.

How's that buddy?

You know, that's that's quite telling.

It makes me kind of worry about my Lutheran catechism at the moment, too.

But also dovetail a little bit off of Sarah's comments.

Sarah, you actually had the endorsement of Governor Kim Reynolds in your primary, didn't you?

So you had Governor Reynolds support.

uh uh as well as going through the election but you did not receive any support from the local party or the house majority fund is that correct

yes that's correct um and there's there's a couple of things with that part of it is you know there it was very clear personal animus because there were issues where um constituents in my in my district would ask for you know republican signs they would give that actually gave signs for the republican running in the

district next to mine, not mine, and didn't reach out to me and say, hey, this person's asking for them, anything like that.

It was basically like I was, I felt like I was Voldemort.

But it's really funny because at every single meeting since the election, they've been very, very like, we, you know, look at all of these successful races we had.

We lost the only contentious race.

That's

the only, yeah, the only race that was competitive we lost.

Correct.

That's absolutely true.

And frankly, the voter turnout was miserable in the Republican districts that we won.

The last midterm that I ran, I won't talk about the general election where I had 15,000.

I'll go the last midterm that I ran and got 10,000 votes.

In those two districts, there were 3,500 and maybe 5,000.

The candidates that succeeded in my district got one third and one half of the votes.

that i got in my midterms

yeah actually and that's a really key thing because i was banking on because we've had in in my district a steady rise it was like six thousand people were voting maybe i think it was ten years ago in midterms and then it's been steadily rising and we were hitting a peak of like between eight and nine thousand people coming out in in my district and now the district was redistricted and now it has

Actually more people because you know obviously people were moving around during that time So we should have been having number right around the 8500 mark.

Yeah, we broke 7000.

Yeah,

I had 92% turnout two years ago and I had 85% turnout in the midterm prior to that and that's why frankly you can say what you want about

I got criticized for working too hard if you can believe that.

And I said, I'm trying to build relationships with all my constituents.

We don't need to campaign that hard.

It was amazing because I would say that that 85 and 92% turnout are part of the reasons why Lynn Grobe was able to be Tom Hannafin by raising the overall vote total.

And what type of effort did we have?

I didn't see us this last fall with any sort of organized telephoning.

door knocking or absentee ballot chasing.

Scott, am I missing

something?

That's correct.

And the biggest issue I think a lot of Republicans on the Central Committee had at the time was that there was not a Republican headquarters.

The first time, you know, this is the first time post pandemic, so to speak.

And there was no actually headquarters whatsoever.

And we were told on this during all the fundraising that we were going to raise this money to have our own headquarters and not be relying on the Des Moines party.

And

There was no headquarters, so where did that money go?

That's another big question I think a lot of folks have.

Well, fair question, Scott.

And Sarah, I would just ask.

So we were just doing ordinary business, doing according to protocol.

We submitted a list of 33 names.

These are literally exemplary citizens from...

all sorts of volunteer, business success, education success, and all 30 were rebuked and sent home.

It's kind of like in the old days when the Irish and the Italians came to America and the signs would read in the stores, Irish need not apply, Italians need not apply.

We're trying to be an inclusive party.

We're trying to bring in African Americans, Latinos, people from diverse

backgrounds.

There's a very 20

and 30 year olds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

50 year

olds.

Yeah.

That was a very waspy cabal that runs that thing.

And they just they're refusing to let go.

They are threatened by losing control.

It's all about control.

And the fact that they would sacrifice citizens

of the caliber that were put up.

I thought was terrifying.

I'm just going to

say it.

Well, honestly, I want to make sure that we understand this whole thing was very, very calculated.

They came to be disruptive, to be to cause chaos.

They had they had talking points that literally every person who spoke on their side hit on things like unity.

Sarah, it was worse than that.

One of their people.

I have witnesses that will talk about this.

I'm not mentioning names.

Stalked me and harangued me and hectored me for 15 minutes after the meeting, pointing in my face, screaming at my wife.

You know, that's the type of politics that they were engaging in.

This was something that, the fury was there.

It just, honest, decent people trying to expand the party.

It is a conundrum to me.

that as we came in to expand the party, to give voting and franchisement to people and to give power to the people, as Republicans who've always been accused, unfairly, I think, of being vote suppressors, here they had a chance to open the party and they slammed the door shut in the face of 30 of Council's most outstanding citizens.

It's just appalling.

Yeah.

You know, and talk to us just a little bit too, Sarah, that unfortunately we're highlighting a lot of the issues that are going on right now in Potawatomi County.

But, you know, as I travel the state, especially Western Iowa, which is heavily Republican,

We see it to a certain extent in all these parties, but it's by council bus, it seems to be the flashpoint right now.

Is that just because this group of people that are leading the party are losing control and are in the twilight of their years?

Are they trying to set themselves up to be the great interviews for KXEL and other news organizations going into the presidential caucus?

What do you think the motives are?

Twilight of their years, some of these guys need night vision goggles.

It is an ARP commercial a lot of times there.

Yeah, no, it's it's it's hard to say You know, you can't discern necessarily the motives of every single person But it does come back to for me what it is is it's actually the state party Controlling the Potawatomi County Central Committee because for a very long time we've kind of been a bur in their saddle We've turned out a lot of very conservative people under the previous chair Chairman I think we saw a lot of new people being

being added constantly, voices being added that they just did not like.

That's actually the era that I was brought under.

And so if I'm the kind of person that they absolutely hate and that's when I was brought under the umbrella of the Potawatomi County.

Sarah,

you're a mainstream Republican.

Let's just call it like it is.

The people controlling the Pot County party right now.

were the John Kasich for president chair for Iowa when he ran against President Trump.

Let's call it out.

These are the John McCain, George H. W. Bush, John Kasich, Rhinos,

Lindsey Graham.

I mean, they would fill right up right in with that party, I believe.

Yeah, exactly.

And talk to us just a little bit, Sarah, too, because, you know,

I don't want to say you're blazing a new path, but you're kind of an anomaly a little bit.

You are a younger woman, you're married, but yet you are involved in politics.

We don't see that very often as somebody who is in politics and is a white Christian male.

I think it's great to see more diversity of not only candidates, but also the volunteers and the apparatuses of the party.

And I think that's very disenfranchising.

Your thoughts on that.

No, it is really frustrating because I come from the professional sector.

I've been in the job that I'm in actually like right out of college, 20 years old.

I got into a professional career and I've been working in like tech for 11 years.

So there's a lot that I can offer.

And I've been I'm very like very dedicated to like personal and professional development.

And one of the things that I I personally pride myself on is that I have grown as a person over over the years.

And it's one of those things where I also feel like I bring a lot of out of the box thinking to the political sphere.

I've had some really great conversations with people where they were like, we just wouldn't have ever thought of that.

And I'm like, really?

No, that's that's that's the thing that I bring.

That's why I wanted to serve my district, actually, because I'm like, I don't think anybody else is going to be able to have the same sort of the same sort of.

knowledge and background that I would bring to the table.

That was really the only reason I wanted to be in that seat.

Well,

Sarah, I brought you and invited you to that bankers lobby meeting and council bluffs and the look of horror and terror on some of the Republican rhino faces when you came in there and the topic of education came up and you talked about the need for school choice

You were met, I was there, you were met with stone silence by another unnamed Republican representative who hell would freeze before he would support school choice.

You know the best part of that?

During that meeting and that was a really funny meeting.

I

was super thrilled by it.

But the funniest part about that meeting was actually the fact that I use the topic of school choice to pivot to the discussion on why we don't eliminate annualized property taxes.

And you know, it's really funny.

I saw Iowans for tax reform.

They're proposing right now a two year freeze on property taxes.

And I'm like, guys, do it.

Get this done.

Eliminate this.

You have to.

your property first and foremost if we're going to be free.

Well that's great Sarah.

You know all good ideas get stolen.

Dr. Jeff Stein was on the line with him this past week and last year when they were going to vouchers Rod I said don't go vouchers not going to work you can't dip in the public school fund.

Just go with a straight like IRA

you know 529 college thing just get a check off box on the Iowa return do straight ESA and Stein said last week Jacobson they stole your idea and then they liquidated your district

That's what happens Scott.

It was a win-win for everybody on that deal.

They got you out of the morning.

They got the idea.

The only loser in that whole situation was the lovely gracious Mrs. Jacobson.

She stuck with me.

Yeah, now she has to deal with you seven days a week.

She's like you're here now.

Oh no.

Exactly.

Scotty, any final thoughts of yours?

You've been in this business a long time.

Now, in fairness, your wife was a heroine that evening up there with Sarah.

She did a

beautiful job.

As did Chris Ranny.

What is it about the women that that have that moral courage and moral voice to say what needs to be said, Sarah?

You know, that's a great point, too, John.

And it's not coming from I think it means more coming from, you know, a woman of stature or just, you know, because we all know in our houses, John, you and I don't we might act like we have control, but you and I know we do not have any control is

Dr. Laura says women hold

all the power.

They just need to know how to use

it.

Yeah, exactly.

And so I think we are at a crossroads right now, and I think it's going to be very interesting to see how not only the Republican Party of Potawatomi County operates, but the Republican Party of Iowa operates moving forward.

And hopefully we can keep enough pressure on them that they actually change things.

you know, I always use the old adage, you know, I still have, you know, our family farm in Northwest Iowa.

And I always say the two differences between farming and politics is, is that the other day when I'm done farming, I can wash the smell off.

So, you know, it just, it's just, there's a reason why some people just don't want to deal with it.

But we are very grateful for having people like yourself, Sarah, as well as others that are involved right now, because that's really what the party needs as well as the Republic.

And Scotty, I love what you just said, because guys,

This is supposed to be a citizen republic.

It is not supposed to be a professional class of grifters that are on the teat of government compensation for their entire lifetimes.

I self term limited myself because frankly, Scott, the people in the legislature that were there longer than eight years were people that started to forget.

who their people were and to fight for them.

You know, that brings up a great point too, John, and there's a lot of people out there that are involved in the Republican Party.

Potawatomi County, I don't think they could actually balance a checkbook if they had to they've never been in the private sector like you said they've been in that public sector and it's a completely different mindset and so that mindset has to be changed and hopefully it's taken care of

that's what I like about people like Sarah they come from a business private sector background and Sarah we need more of that that's what people did like about Trump he did have that business mojo and we need to bring how about just best business practices to the

Pottawatomie County Organization.

Just best practices.

Anything, honestly.

Any level of professionalism.

Sarah, thank you so much for being here.

Aaron Copeland thinks that you're just the best too.

As we are finishing up part one of the special report, honesty in politics, reforming the Republic to go back to those fundamental

essential beliefs and core principles of our founding fathers using Iowa nice coupled with Iowa ingenuity and Iowa grit Sarah abdouche the crowd is on their feet we're going to have you back again for a further report Sarah God bless you

thank you so much for joining us all across Iowa this weekend

thank you so much John I'll be here again

I guess this is just another lost cause, Mr. Payne.

All you people don't know about lost causes.

Mr. Payne does.

He said once they were the only causes worth fighting for.

And he fought for them once.

For the only reason any man ever fights for them.

Just one plain, simple rule.

Love thy neighbor.

And in this world today, full of hatred, a man who knows that one rule has a great trust.

You know that rule, Mr. Bain.

And I loved you for it, just as my father did.

And you know that you fight for the lost causes harder than for any others.

Yes,

you even die for them.

Like a man we both know, Mr. Bain.

You think I'm late?

You all think I'm late?

Well, I'm not late.

And I'm going to stay right here and fight for this lost cause, even if this room gets filled with lies like these.

And the tailors and all their armies come marching into this place.

Somebody will listen to me.

Back here on KXEL, the 50,000 watt clear channel blow torch, coming across the Big Ten States.

Happy New Year to everybody.

You're listening to us on 1540 AM, as well as 100.5 FM.

Waterloo Cedar Rapids, all of Eastern Iowa and regionally, and of course on our podcast, kxel.com slash Jacobson.

Guys, we're back with some tremendous physicians in Iowa.

They've got some great updates for us on what's going on here in our ongoing coverage of the pandemic.

Dr. Brad Meyer, Dr. Lee Merritt, and Dr. Ted Fogarty.

And I'm proud to say that this troika are from the western part of the state.

A lot of you are listening to us on the eastern flank of the state.

And of course,

Dr. David Hartstich will be on with his report from the Quad Cities.

Let's go to Dr. Brad Meyer.

Doc, welcome back.

You're up there at the Aeronautics Clinic with Dr. Fogarty and Spirit Lake.

Talk to us today.

What's the update?

Yeah, you know, we continue to clean up the aftermath of this COVID injection and

the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic with so much spike protein again.

So many millions of people have been absolutely had their health health and lives changed significantly for months months after they've had these vaccines or quote unquote vaccines and uh and so the the trajectory uh in in the background of that is just to remember

Where we've been and where we're going here because where we've been is I'm a family doc on the front lines I was treating patients early on May of 2020 with ivermectin hydroxychloric when having lettable success When the CDC and the big government was saying no no no you have to do it this way you have to do remdesivir You've got to you've got to use our protocols which were not working.

They were the standard

They were the standard care, and I was working on providing standard of care.

And that meant that I was innovating along with some of these other great doctors across the plane states.

And that included an acetylcysteine.

Our clinic specifically were using hyperbaric, which there's an NYU study that came out, the phase one actually came out in May of

of 2020 to start to validate the use of hyperbaric.

Huge academic study,

yeah.

Huge.

So we continue up here to help folks from across the states get themselves back on their feet again after they've been damaged by this bio weapon.

And so we have to remember we can't just close our eyes and say, oh, well, that's in the distant history right now.

As the data

shows and more and more of our family and friends that have gotten these injections are getting sick and some dying unexpectedly.

We really, we have to hold those accountable that we're saying, you know, do nothing or, you know, the injections are the right way to go.

And so that's the purpose of the people.

Our great citizens of the state, the ever Midwest is to hold folks accountable that we're inhibiting

doctors from like myself and you know doctor hard search doctor merit doctor poverty to give proper informed consent to patients to say hey this is an emergency use injection that we don't have long-term safety data on so really um the fact that those doctors are the ones that are being persecuted still and come after in light of this data bending strongly in favor of the positions we took

We can't just turn a blind eye to those folks that were telling those doctors to basically shut up.

This is magnificent encapsulization of what's going on.

I am very critical of the Iowa Board of Medicine and I firmly believe heads need to roll and you set it up beautifully.

Dr. Brad Meyer.

Let's go over to Dr. Lee Merritt.

Lee's from north of where Scott and I are originally from there in that Council Bluffs area.

Dr. Merritt, welcome back.

Thank you for your service to our country as a military physician previously.

Chime in on what Brad said and you had offered talked about a few things that you wanted to visit as well.

Well, I've been looking at a couple things because Dr. Jim Thorpe is a friend of mine.

He's OBGYN.

He's very active in showing the devastation of these vaccines.

And for example, I mean, he points out this is in the New England Journal of Medicine.

I'm being criticized by the Iowa Medical Board, by the way, for not supporting my statements with medical literature.

So let me just show you the medical literature.

There's an article by Shima Kubiteru et al.

in Japanese, our name.

Anyway, this is from June of 2021.

And what it shows that if you took this, if you were pregnant and you took this vaccine in the first trimester or second trimester of pregnancy, these so-called vaccines, you had a 90% spontaneous abortion rate.

This is

unbelievable.

lost the fetus now terrible in mind that r u 486 the abortion after after mourning after pill has somewhere between an 80 to 90 percent efficacy in preventing and terminating the pregnancy so quite frankly this vaccine does a better job as an abortion agent

scott

this is just this is

terrible isn't it scott

it sure is horrible and and here's the point i'm going to make i

looked at the Iowa numbers.

Okay, we have about 3.3 million people

in the state.

I looked at the Iowa numbers last the winter of 21-22 of the, this was just all cause mortality, but it's after we started this vaccine program.

Okay.

And we are, we have an average compared to the previous, like several years going back where you can steal five years going back.

We have

300 excess deaths a month, and about 200 to 250 excess stillbirth, miscarriages, lost in pregnancy.

So no, it's births.

The births are down by 200 to 250 a month, and the deaths are up by about 300 a month.

Now the question is, I'm not an actuary, but you run those numbers long term.

That is a huge decline in our population coming up, and that's

That's not everything, because here's the problem.

And this is why I'm speaking out right now.

It's not just about the military mandates.

It's still about a mandate for our children going into school.

There's concern by these experts.

I'm not an OBGYN doctor, but there has been a concern for a very long time by these experts, based on the data, based on the scientific evidence, that this is not just rendering adult women sterile

but that it is damaging the ovaries of the female fetus.

In other words, you're pregnant, you have a child in the womb that's a female.

That ovary is even if you manage to deliver the baby, which is a 10% chance roughly.

This is now, you have a possibility of damaging the ovary in that fetus, so the next generation doesn't reproduce.

We're

the demographic nightmare.

The governor around the country,

But credit for stopping the childhood mandates for the COVID vaccines for their school children.

Well, that's all fine and good.

But if you go to the box now that says on the flu vaccine, that it's a combo.

It's a combo of the flu vaccine and the COVID vaccine.

And that's still being mandated for our children.

The flu vaccine should never have been mandated, should never have been on the child panel.

And it doesn't matter what, you know,

I heard that the Iowans for informed choice Iowa, well, they're thought to be kind of extremists because they're against all vaccines, but here's the problem.

As these guys have said themselves at Pfizer and Moderna, this technology that they've developed for this COVID shot can be easily transmitted

into

any other vaccine.

So what's happening is they're

cleverly, people are not paying attention and they're still vaccinating their children with this stuff.

Dr. Lee Merritt, ladies and gentlemen, that's some sobering news.

Dr. Ted Fogarty working our way back up to Spirit Lake and the aeronautics clinic up there.

We give you the last word here in our quarter hour segment.

Dr. Fogarty, your partner, Dr. Brad Meyer and Dr. Merritt have let off strongly.

We're gonna give you the final word.

How would you like to put this in a perspective today?

Thanks, John.

Hey, I'm actually shouting out to you from Western Nebraska and Lake McConaughey area, where I'm home for Christmas and the new year.

Okay, we gotta play the ringtone.

We gotta play your old radio ringtone for you here.

There we

go.

Do you feel at home now?

You're at McConaughey and you hear these dulcet chimes.

What do you think, Fogarty?

Absolutely.

Well, as the former chair of the University of North Dakota School of Medicine, Radiology Department, and one of the top pediatric imagers in Western North Dakota,

long-standing history of being the go-to guy in the state capital of North Dakota for pediatric radiology.

I am chagrined and it's horrific what I'm seeing at night across multiple states and also within the medical and scientific literature coming down from pediatric MRI studies and research on how damaging this biotech bioweapon really is and it truly is.

a bio weapon.

The the the MIRNA vaccines are a bio weapon in and of themselves.

And then when you look at it from the J&J perspective and the and the live virus, the adenovirus version of the vaccine with an insertion of a spike protein, that is actually a gain of function that a corporation in America did to create a second bio weapon in a secret viral species.

And and now when we look and you know, I'm reading films down in Florida.

One of my first Florida cases back in 2021 was an ER doc who strongly recognized that this kid had come into his ER, a 12-year-old kid, and had just had

a Pfizer vaccine, put it on the request, got a chest film, and this kid had CHF signs on a chest film, a 12 year old kid and an ER doc in Florida.

And I'm reading this film and I'm calling this guy and I put it in this kid's chart and on that film.

This needs to be reported to the various database and that he should not have another vaccine.

I'm continually across state lines speaking the truth.

and wielding the free speech rights that all of our physicians need to have to not be muzzled by these boards in saving lives through communication.

God bless Governor DeSantis who is, who is going after these, going after these vaccine companies with the grand jury trial system in Florida, the Supreme court just signed off on it.

And there's a whole bunch of other Republican governors that better get on board with that whole process.

Yeah, we need to get grand juries going.

And certainly we need to revamp these medical boards until they get it right.

Uh, guys, this has been an awesome conversation.

We're going to bring you all back on in 2023.

Ladies and gentlemen,

Doctors, Brad Meyer, Lee Merritt, and Ted Fogarty, heroic doctors of courageous conscience that have the best curative records in the state through the pandemic.

Thank you all for joining us.

Happy New Year, everybody.

Thank you.

Hey, man, John.

Hey, guys.

All right.

Back to you in studio, guys.

We'll take a short break and be right back.

Scotty, we do investigative journalism like no other.

We've gone from JFK to the reform of the GOP.

What a tremendous dialogue we had today.

You know, John, it really has been and we'd be very grateful.

for Dr. Jeff Stein for allowing us to do that here on the radio waves of KXEL.

There's a lot going on right now in the political world, the state of Iowa.

So very grateful.

And we're going to have some great stories coming up throughout the legislative session as well as the Iowa caucuses are just one year away.

We've

got our eyes on the legislature.

Scotty and I know what's going on on the inside.

We're going to let the folks know because light.

is the greatest of all disinfectants.

Sunshine, the greatest of all disinfectants.

And we're gonna shine the light, guys.

In the meantime, thanks to Barbara Hames Bryant, Dr. David Hart, such Dr. Ted Fogarty, Dr. Brad Meyer.

Be safe, be smart, be good, be strong.

Scotty, who's gonna win the weekend playoff

games?

I'm gonna go, she's 49ers.

All right, there you go.

Guys, remember, love Jesus Christ.

God bless us, everyone.

We're all sinners in need.

of forgiveness.

Channel that grace, guys.

The grace is there.

Love you lots.

Talk to you soon.

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