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KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - December 10, 2022
The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Mon Dec 12, 2022
Hello, this is John Jacobson and welcome to this podcast of The Jacobson Group.
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Welcome welcome to the Jacobson group John Jacobson and Scott Corey here with the Engineering Marvel Mike Shane Mike play that ringtone of excellence from the engineering deck if you would be so kind No one better than Mike Shane makes us look good Scott Corey on
K X E L caraming throughout all the states of the Big Ten with a great 50,000 watt signal on AM 1540 and also FM 100.5 here on this Saturday and Sunday the 10th and 11th of December.
We're only two weeks away from Christmas and Jeff Stein is just in radio heaven right now.
It's such a newsy December.
You know, that's a great point, John, and it's been kind of Christmas.
for Hawkeye land here this last couple of days.
You know, we had a great couple of days there at Carver Hawkeye Arena.
Caitlin Clark and Lisa Bluter's Iowa women defeated the eighth ranked Iowa State women the other night.
And then here on Thursday night, Fran McCaffrey got his 500th career victory against his arch rival Iowa State.
And I'll be the first one to admit, John, I did not expect that kind of a curb stomping to take place.
And I joke with it, especially
with the injuries
with Chris Murray being injured.
his foot.
We don't know how long he's going to be out, but I joked with you guys during the game.
I said, uh, K McNamara, the, the coup that Kurt Farrance has brought in as QB one for next year, made his grand entrance to Carver Hawkeye arena.
And, uh, with him there, he inspired the team and, uh, looks like maybe the, uh, playoffs go through a Kinnick stadium next year.
If he can kind of list of that kind of excitement from the basketball program, he had to be pumped.
He did.
He
did.
It was a
great.
recruiting weekend.
I know he had some offensive linemen and some other folks that we're looking at for the portal.
But you know, we have a big bowl game coming up on January.
Talk about
that.
We're pumped.
Yeah.
It's
a nice one.
I call it the family reunion.
It is basically a reunion there at Nashville with the on December 31st and 11 central time when Iowa takes on Kentucky coached by Mark Stoops who played in Iowa.
It is a rematch from last year's bowl game.
But it's going to be one of those bowl games where
A lot of players are missing.
The both quarterbacks, starting quarterbacks for both teams are out.
Kentucky's star running back is opted for the NFL.
We don't know who our starting quarterback will be for Iowa.
So it's kind of one of those weird bogus.
It's about Tyler Dejean.
Yeah, yeah, he'd be great.
Cooper, he'd be amazing to have out there.
And it's going to be interesting to see.
But one of the most encouraging things I thought that happened this week in preferences press conference,
Where he talked about we need to reevaluate the program top down It basically look at the program like he did in 2014 the man always
surprises me by being able to reinvent himself like Hayden Fry
with
his three rounds of assistance and is Kirk
Reinventing himself.
Is this Kirk 3.0?
It
might be Kirk 5.0 or 6.0 by now, but I just want to say, you know, we've been very critical, especially myself of the coach, uh, coach Ference as well as the program.
And for him to do this is a huge sign.
And the most important sign, like I mentioned earlier, was going into the portal and snagging probably the number one quarterback, Cade McNamara from Michigan.
So there's a lot of optimism right now.
It's kind of one of those great, uh, off seasons we have a lot to build on, but
But enough cannot be said about the coaching from Fran McCaffrey and Lisa Bluter as well as we get ready to go into big 10 season.
And two big 10 teams.
in that national playoff.
And we've got USC with the Heisman candidate also, which is now de facto Big Ten.
Things are looking good for this Big Ten conference.
Exactly.
And you know, Saturday night, we'll know the Heisman winner.
And don't forget, Iowa native, Council Bluffs native.
My
constituent
and
family friends, Jim and Deb Duggan have produced this emblematically great young man.
What a heart of a champion.
He left it on the field literally in that title.
Yeah, he did.
And you know, enough can't be said about the way Max Duggan has handled himself with the off the field medical issues and then coming back losing his starting job and then piloting TCU through an undefeated non-conference and basically came down to a goal line stand where the coach Sonny Dykes took the ball away from him.
All he needed was a yard and a half.
He put a snuck for that.
I don't need
Stanley would have done that when he was in Iowa.
But you know, it's just one of those great times of year.
I'm looking for
forward to it.
And we got some great interviews today too, John.
Oh,
guys, we're going to we've got some Iowans that are pivotal in once and for all solving the JFK assassination.
And we've got some tremendous interviews in the medical environment as we continue to progress through the pandemic and post pandemic.
So stay tuned.
Let's roll.
Welcome to this special presentation of the Jacobson group.
You're listening us today on 50,000 watts of clear channel curing across the Midwest in the Big Ten States.
We've got a very special program lined up for you today with some amazing guests.
You know, Iowans are at the focal point of what we're going to be talking about today.
60 calendar years ago 59 Years ago in Full years, but the 60th calendar year ago on November 22 1963 of course shots rang out in Dallas and With reverberations that have affected America ever since With the assassination of President Kennedy on that fateful Friday
a week before Thanksgiving.
John F. Kennedy, President of the United States, the first president felled by an assassin's bullet since William McKinley.
Even the Iowa Notre Dame football game was canceled that Saturday.
There was no Jim Zabel, there was no Tate Cummins, none of the Iowa...
voices were heard that day as out of respect for Notre Dame.
Of course, at that time, America's premier Catholic University, and John Kennedy being the first Catholic president, their sensibilities, their father, Hesburgh, asked if the game could not be played.
So we're going to talk to some Iowans that have been very close to this situation.
We've got on with us today some really special guests.
Our first guest,
introduce them in alphabetical order, Laura Bellin.
Laura runs Iowa's most successful political commentary and reporting and blog site, Bleeding Heartland.
And Laura's father, late father, was David Bellin Esquire.
David was a member of the Warren Commission, and I believe-
through his lifetime, the most articulate defender of the Warren Commission report and a man who's been vindicated with so much.
He was not only part of the Warren Commission, but he was also a part of the Rockefeller Commission in 75 and was privy to all of the CIA files.
We'll have some commentary from Laura and some footage from David Bellin.
Mr. Bruce Crawford is well-known film critic and film historian and preservationist.
He's earned an
honorary Oscar for film preservation and was awarded at the Kennedy Center honors by the American Film Institute.
Tom Hanks presented him his award for film preservation.
Bruce is critical of Oliver Stone's JFK.
Bruce collaborates with TCM, but also as an avocation has been an avid researcher and investigator of the JFK assassination.
Thirdly, we have on with us, and we're so glad he's joined us today, Mr. Brian Douglas.
Brian, in his own right, has been a part of so many Emmy Award-winning teams, particularly as television producer and director.
for so many of the international sports productions we've seen on television, including FIFA World Cup and Olympics, Winter Olympics Games, for example, in Salt Lake, Torino, and Vancouver.
And of course, Brian's Iowa connection is he's obviously been producing some major sports events in Iowa.
You know, David Bellin, Des Moines,
professional, an attorney with a great bell and firm during his career.
Brian has done production right there by the Hivee Center for some scre-
great sporting events.
And then we've also got on with us today for a little bit of a Washington perspective.
Coach Patrick J. Knapp Jr., the Boys Town legend, Big East and top 10 the nation with Georgetown Women's Basketball, now at New Mexico State University, brought Division I Women's Sports to
parody with some a regular commentator on this show with some great insights today Welcome aboard everybody Let's start let's start with that fateful day that trajectory that was a Thursday on November 22nd and It was central time.
It's easy for us here listening in the Midwest to understand this
But basically this was central time and many, many people have never heard this audio that we're going to play for you right now.
Before any news went out on the, the UPI wire from Merriman Smith, before ABC radio, before Cronkite, uh, brought this news to the nation locally.
If you were listening to K box in Dallas.
for some live mobile unit radio coverage.
Ron Jenkins at K-Box.
This was at 12.30 p.m.
as he's covering the motorcade.
Most Americans have never heard this, essentially, play-by-play of the motorcade.
Have you ever heard that account, Brian Douglas?
No, and I find that amazing.
I've sort of been aficionado on the, you know, again, it was such an integral part of my childhood.
And I just, yeah, I don't know quite, quite to say, but it was, yeah, it was very interesting, but it's, it was a monumental day in our
country's history and we can, well, I'm sure we'll be talking about that, change things forever, but no, I've never heard that piece of audio.
Now, Laura, how about you?
No, I've never heard that.
And honestly, I was getting a little emotional listening to
because we take for granted that we know who was hit and what happened.
Exactly, exactly.
Bruce Crawford, have you heard that account from K-Box, the great Ron Jenkins?
Yes, actually several times over the last three years.
Did you ever talk to Ron?
I know that you talked to a lot of the folks down there, even some of the journalists.
Jim Underwood was a big guy and the, well, I'll let you just take it from there real quickly, Bruce.
witnesses and even even some of the medical personnel.
And Malcolm Summers and Bill Newman, I spoke in both of those in the light.
I can't think of a name on the woman who was dressed in a ragged.
Her story's kept changing over the years.
Bruce, we're going to bring in a little bit of some of those conversations you had, especially with people at the hospital there.
Coach Snap, have you ever heard the K-Box commentary, the motorcade?
over the many, many years of watching the Kennedy assassination.
Coach, where were you on that day?
You're a Catholic Philadelphia kid, and how old were you?
Where were you on that day?
Well, I remember it vividly, even though I was in fifth grade.
You got to remember in the 60s when Kennedy was...
Most Catholic families had a picture of JFK on their wall right next to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
So being a Catholic back then was a real badge of honor, and Kennedy was very, very popular.
I also sat in front of my television during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and that whole tense issue as a youngster.
And it started to...
historical importance of issues started to come to me at that time.
So in fifth grade, our sister immaculate, my fifth grade teacher got in front of the class and told us that the president had been shot in Dallas, but gave us no other details.
The room was a buzz.
And before I knew it,
we were let out of school early that afternoon.
I walked home my normal route from St.
John of the Cross to my home and I passed by a house that that front door had a screen door and a television within view of that screen door very close to the screen door and I stopped on the sidewalk no more than 10 feet away.
and heard there first and foremost, not the Concite report, but one of the television announcers telling everybody that the president had been shot and the president had died.
So that was my vivid memory of that day.
I walked home and began watching days of that coverage as we all did.
And in the end, I actually sat in my living room with my mother.
Saw Jack Ruby shoot the Harvey Oswald as he was being transferred from that Vow's police station saw that live on TV
Here with coach Patrick Knapp So at 1230 shots rang out you heard basically the account there from Ron Jinks on k-box Maryman Smith is in One of the motorcade vehicles a few cars behind the president obviously behind President Johnson's car
There was one mobile phone back in the day.
There was a car phone in the press pool car.
And that day, Maryman Smith got to ride in the front seat with the phone.
The AP wire reporter was in the back seat.
After the shots rang out, just as Ron Jenkins do, something was terribly wrong.
Maryman Smith was desperately trying to get to his UPI.
bureau chief.
Of course, we'll talk later.
Cronkite was an old UPI guy, not an AP guy, but Merriman Smith was put on hold for a while.
His AP colleague told him to surrender the phone.
Literally, they're getting into a fistfight, punching each other in the motorcade press vehicle as the presidential limousine
is being driven 70 miles an hour to Parkland Hospital.
Maryamon Smith ultimately gets someone at the other end.
Smith at 1234 p.m.
Central says shots ring out.
Now, radio picked it up first.
We've got ABC Radio here.
This is about 1235-ish with ABC Radio coming in with this bulletin here.
We
interrupt this program to bring you a special bulletin from ABC radio Here is a special bulletin from Dallas, Texas three shots were fired at
President Kennedy's motorcade today in downtown Dallas, Texas.
This is ABC Radio.
To repeat, in Dallas, Texas, three shots were fired at President Kennedy's motorcade today.
The president now making a two-day speaking tour of Texas.
We're going to stand by for more details on the incident in Dallas.
Stay tuned to your ABC station for...
further details.
Now we return you to your regular program.
Well there we have ABC
at about
1235 and guys it starts progressing from there.
Cronkite is the first American television network anchor
To take the lead on the story Cronkite gets it first and this is where we bring in Brian Douglas here because Brian tell this story of how your father the great Dick Douglas Richmond Douglas of how that unfolded that day for Dick Douglas there with Walter Cronkite
How did Cronkite beat ABC and NBC to coverage?
And essentially, from that day forward, Cronkite became America's premier anchorman.
No, without a doubt.
I think the key factor is...
Walter Cronkite was a huge TV personality, but he was sort of a blue-collar guy at lunch at his desk, where his colleagues are probably out for a two-mortini lunch.
He ate at his desk, my father's, in what was called the newsroom.
We use these terms loosely.
It was office space off the side of studios where they would do soap operas or other programming.
On this particular day, this breaks, and it's like, what do we do?
I'll warm up.
Keep being I'll warm up a camera probably text 10 to 12 minutes to warm up a camera They had to bring lights into the newsroom.
It wasn't like it is today, you know, this was the beginning of CNN I suspect and and the comality of You know breaking in live.
This is just unheard of so they first their first that 140 approximately CBS put up a slide they broke into as the world turns I showed I think the longest running
show in television history.
So to break in, as my dad's doing this, Cronkite's on the phone to William Paley, president of CBS.
Oh yeah, do we have permission to break into a very popular show?
But yes, of course.
So the first cut-in is a voiceover.
Again, the infamous here.
Here's a golden word, CBS News in Dallas, three shots were fired, President Kenny's motorcade.
It's only about an hour, it's less than that, eh?
You know, half hour later, where they do the infamous cutting, where, and if things are happening so quick, I'll, you know, conkite, and again, that's why I think John, that he was so well reviewed, because he had showed his emotion.
He jumps in from Dallas, Texas the flash apparently official president Kansas he died Then he that he famously moves his glasses showing real emotion and almost broke down, you know, which is unheard of in the day, you know and and and for the next four days They're on 24-7, you know, it's through the funeral and I think the thing that I remember my father talking about, you know They had moved so quickly again was unheard of at the time
But the interesting thing was, Cronkite, when he had a moment to break, I'm sure he got a bathroom break at some point, and he got off the air, and I think my father was relieved as well.
And he said, dick, I didn't even have my sports coat on.
How un-dignified.
Again, this was, this was like real.
And, you know, this was Walter Cronkite.
And he was, you know, as opposed to how he did, he did an incredible job.
But his takeaway was like, wow, I wasn't, you know, I wasn't even dressed properly.
So I think the
And again, some of your other guests have alluded to it.
It's just an amazing moment in our time.
And in my business, maybe the birth of, again, the birth of CNN, a birth of live, quick, instantaneous news.
We cut all over the world now.
But at the time, technology wasn't there.
And
one other thing I'd like to add, it was a moment.
And this was unheard of.
They had a picture.
You know that was based on a piece of cardboard.
I wanted you to talk about this go for this.
This is great
And this was this was I remember these cameras are rudimentary.
They're really they there's a zoom capability that's really for reframing not for smooth moves and Walter says, you know You know, can I have the camera man?
You know that can you can you zoom in on this and and it was this herky jerky zoom into the a picture of the limousine
I think it had been taken prior.
But you know, they're trying to set the scene.
You know, they're doing the best they can to tell a story.
But I remember my father being like appalled at the move because it wasn't a smooth move into the...
photo but it didn't matter you know the point is oh there's the car open you know you saw that there wasn't a roof on the car you know
the seconds before the seconds before shot that photo had dried and literally it was great tv because he called your father and asked him yeah can you zoom in on this he did that twice there was another exhibit that he wanted to show there as you say forgetting his jacket in the the newsroom itself all this transpired within an hour
He formally called the president's death at 138 central literally and basically an hour in change after the shots were first reported and they were going out to affiliate KRLD and Eddie Barker and Jim Underwood out there, Dan Rather out there and they were getting all sorts of
You know, they pieced it together brilliantly.
I thought Dan rather got some indications of the severity of the wounds from some of the people at the hospital, the priests that administered last rites, some of the different officials.
Cronkite really did a magnificent job.
And it's true, your father, I think the reason CBS got on first was because your father was
bright enough to know he couldn't warm the cameras up totally to get in the newsroom yet, but they could get a camera on that card that said special bulletin eight times special bulletin CBS news on that card.
And then Cronkite with the voice in the radio booth, you're right, interrupting as the world turns.
And that's that's the first one up.
And so people are fixated on Cronkite.
Let's go in to the great
Dick Douglas, those last seminal seven minutes when they're recapping and about to the point where Cronkite is going to be able to make the announcement on CBS, we're going to pick it up at about 1.30 central time here while they're Cronkite with Dick Douglas on the camera here.
And I thought about it, and I gave it a great deal of thought, Grandpa.
Here is a bulletin from CBS News.
In Dallas, Texas, three shots were fired at President Kennedy's motorcade in downtown Dallas.
The first reports say that President Kennedy has been seriously wounded by this shooting.
More details just arrived.
These details about the same as previously, President Kennedy shot today just as his motorcade left downtown Dallas.
Mrs. Kennedy jumped up and grabbed Mr. Kennedy.
She called, oh no, the motorcade sped on.
United Press says that the wounds for President Kennedy perhaps could be fatal.
Repeating, a bulletin from CBS News, President Kennedy has been shot by a would-be assassin in Dallas, Texas.
Stay tuned to CBS News for further details.
Brian, how proud are you at what Dick Douglas did to bring Walter Cronkite to all of America on that fateful day in November?
You know, I'm immensely proud.
And the reason I went into the business was that day.
And hearing my father's description after, I think, just as a child, I thought all
Parents must critique TV shows or sporting events and I learned more in my living room that I probably ever did at university but No, it was it was men who rose to the occasion and and and quickly again It's just it's just unheard of today.
It's done.
They think you know, we bounce all over the world multiple multiple venues multiple locations and this was different this was like a couple people
Hurriedly walking working together and you know, it's when when Walter like hey, you know what was this?
We have to get on all right Give me a minute and they you know, they just sort of jumped into action and I think my father worked the I he didn't come home that night obviously and it was a you know, they were on virtually 24 hours a day for four days through the funeral and No, I just think and the last thing I'd say is it wasn't
He didn't look at it as he knew it was a moment in time.
They had he had done previously.
My father had done a thing called the tour of the White House, which was a Jackie Kennedy sort of.
They had revamped the White House and there was a.
So he knew President Kennedy, not by name, but he knew him.
They knew these people, as Walter did as well.
So I think when you see the emotion of Walter pulling off his glasses and trying to compose himself, pausing for 10 seconds, again, unheard of.
It wasn't done.
But these were the traits that would later endear...
Walter Cronkite to the American public.
There's a famous line where LBJ quoted this years later, of course, where Cronkite had been to Vietnam, came home, and like, hey, this is a waste.
America is not, this isn't happening.
This isn't going to be successful.
Johnson's quoted as saying, hey, I lost Walter, I've lost the war.
That's how powerful he was at the time.
So I think, I don't think at the time they quite understood the, my father's a devout Catholic.
And so it mattered, you know, it was one of those things.
John, you referenced it earlier.
You changed America forever.
Here with Brian Douglas, Laura Bellin, Bruce Crawford, Coach Patrick J. Knapp Jr.
One thing I was amazed about, Brian, you've been on so many of these Emmy award-winning teams now with worldwide coverage and satellites, but back in the day, they couldn't just go out live.
They literally had to feed film and process the film and put it up there.
And I noticed some of the...
KRLD footage of the Trade Center that they were showing after president been shot obviously was taken earlier before the crowd was You know alerted to what was going on then later they were able to feed in live shots even if the minister is praying for the president then that very poignant scene and and
A scene that makes the hair rise on your neck when they remove the presidential seal from the podium live expecting the president's report
Yeah, no at the Expo Center or what was it?
Very black.
Looks like a trademark.
Thank you.
Absolutely right now, you know seeing waiters, you know emotionally else this was incredible news.
How could this happen?
This doesn't happen in America let alone there there
their town and as we know, and I'm sure your other guests can speak to the political climate and it had been bad prior and this was prior to the, uh, to the upcoming election and, you know, Kennedy, you know, brought out all barrels.
You know, that's a great, it's a great point, Brian, because Adley Stevenson had been struck by a sign, uh, on, on a tour and had been met with some, uh,
protesters.
There was some unrest, and we'll have Laura and Bruce delve into some of this, but I wanted to show you the professionalism of Cronkite in piecing together a narrative.
within that hour, and he's calling for Dick Douglas here to do the zoom in with his camera on the photograph.
Perhaps the first zoom in on live network television history.
That may very well be true.
That's a very good point.
Let's grab that right now.
Mike is going to cue that up for us.
This begins at about 1.30 p.m.
central time, literally one hour after shots rang out.
Governor Connolly could very possibly have been shot in the back with the assassin's bullets still coming from the front of the car.
He rode in a small jump seat in the center of the back of the specially built presidential limousine, specially built for such public performances such as this.
As a matter of fact, the car is so built that the president sits higher than he would in a normal automobile.
so that the crowd can get a good look at him.
But as it turned out today, so that an assassin can also get a good shot at him.
Further information here.
The Catholic priest who helped perform the last rites, Father Huber, Dallas said that he did not believe the president was dead at that time.
The priest left the emergency operating room at Parkton Hospital and walked out of the hospital.
There has been just a moment.
That information does not bear directly on the condition of President Kennedy.
It has come from Kansas City, Missouri, where our affiliate KCMO says that Mrs. Bess Truman has told KCMO that former President Truman is too upset to comment on today's tragic developments.
As we said, there has been no word at all on the official word from the doctors at Parkland Hospital or the White House staff on the extent of the president's wounds.
Mrs. Kennedy is in the hospital, as we said, so is Mrs. Connolly, the governor's wife, as are indeed most members of the White House staff.
He was carrying a large staff with him on this tour to Texas.
It is believed that a gap in the motorcade perhaps saved Vice President Johnson from being a target of the assassin today.
The gap had opened up in the motorcade just before the assassins bullets rang out.
The priest who with Kennedy want the two priests who with Kennedy say that he is dead of his bullet wounds.
That seems to
be about as close to official as we can get at this time.
They did see the president just a few moments ago and this is the bulletin that has just cleared from Dallas that the two priests who were in the emergency room where President Kennedy lay after being taken from the Dallas street corner where he was shot say that he is dead.
Our man Dan Rather in Dallas reported that about 10 minutes ago too.
There's another
picture taken just moments, just moments, split moments, before the assassination attempt is here.
Let's see if we can get a real close-up of that picture.
It has just arrived.
It shows a smiling Mrs. Kennedy and the President in the front seat of the car, in the back seat of the car.
Mrs.
Connolly and Governor Connolly you cannot see behind Mrs. Connolly.
The assassin took dead aim.
He got the president apparently with the first shot in the head and then Governor Connolly with the next two shots.
As we've reported to you, the New York Stock Exchange has closed as a nation.
If these reports are true, prepares to go into mourning.
The stock exchange closed after prices began tumbling as words spread rapidly through the floor of the exchange of this event in Dallas.
All stock exchanges apparently are now closed.
The New York cotton and wool exchanges, the American stock exchange, the coffee and sugar exchanges are closed.
accounting for you again the succession of events in Dallas, Texas this morning president Kennedy and governor Connolly of Texas shot as their motorcade proceeded from Dallas airport to downtown Dallas where the president was scheduled to make a speech the assassin perhaps succeeded word is that he did in killing president Kennedy
The president taken to Parkland Hospital where a moment ago two priests left the room and said they understood the president was dead.
Our own reporter in Dallas also says that he has information that the president is dead.
This official word has not come however from Parkland Hospital as yet.
A Secret Service man was also killed in the fuselage of shots that came apparently from a second-story window.
Now from Washington, government sources say that President Kennedy is dead.
Those are government sources, still not an official announcement.
But government sources in Washington, the priests who left the emergency room, our correspondent, Dan Rather in Dallas, say that this is the information that the president is dead.
A television newsman, Hal Love, said that he looked up just after the shot was fired,
and saw a rifle being withdrawn from a fifth or sixth floor window of a nearby building.
He said a policeman fell to the ground, pulled his pistol and yelled, get down, probably to attempt to return the shots.
Earlier today, President Kennedy had been in Fort Worth, Texas.
Yesterday he was in San Antonio.
Today he was in Fort Worth this morning.
He addressed
a
breakfast meeting as did Mrs. Kennedy of some 2,200 cheering people.
Mrs. Kennedy, very attractive in a pale beige dress and a pillbox hat, had gotten a standing ovation from that crowd and proved to be quite a campaigner in Texas in these last two days and was getting a lot of products from the old political pros for that.
President Kennedy himself
rose rather early and went out into a parking lot near the hotel in Dallas where he addressed informally a rather large crowd of people and had pleased them with his quips about the fact that he was sorry that he could not bring Mrs. Kennedy with him down to that particular meeting but that it took her a little longer to get organized than did him but that as he said it's worth it and the crowd laughed and departed and
and enjoyed the quip.
The president then went on to the breakfast meeting and shortly thereafter his plane took off from Carswell Air Force Base in Fort Worth and flew him to his rendezvous with death apparently in Dallas, Texas.
At the airport in Dallas and throughout the streets of Dallas, the Dallas police had been augmented by some 400.
Policemen called in on their day off
Because there were some fears and concerns in Dallas that that there might be Demonstrations at least that could embarrass the president because it was only on October the 24th that our ambassador to the United Nations Adley Stevenson Was assaulted in Dallas leaving a dinner meeting there From Dallas, Texas the flash apparently official president Kennedy died at 1 p.m
Central Standard Time, 2 o'clock Eastern Standard Time, some 38 minutes ago.
Vice President Lyndon Johnson has left the hospital in Dallas but we do not know to where he has proceeded.
Well thanks again for listening to part one of the Jacobson's group documentary on the Kennedy assassination.
Next week we'll pick it up with part two as Bruce Crawford and Laura Bellin and John take us through the final hours of that fateful day.
John Jacobson here with our ongoing interviews with doctors Ted Fogarty, Brad Meyer and David Hart, such Scott always informative in this pandemic era here.
These guys are on the cutting edge.
They sure are, John.
And you know, as we're going into the winter season, you know, we're hearing more and more cases of.
COVID as well as RSV and bronchitis are really hitting the population.
So it's going to be interesting to see what they're hearing on the ground level, because they are the forefront of this pandemic.
Well, let's go up to Ted Fogarty there in Iowa's Northwest.
You guys have really got some weather there.
Well, my brother from
another Dr. Bradley Russell Meyer just got done snow blowing eight inches of snow right off the driveway here up in Okuboji.
This is the season and we're coming up on the end of a calendar year Much has been happening that the news cycle is bending.
There's a lot of updated information I'm just gonna throw it out there for our docs and I'll start I'll go to heart such Dr. David heart such on the Mississippi where it's rain right now not snow, but doctor there's a lot that's come out on
CDC errors early on.
There's a lot of new evidence coming out about Pfizer and Moderna.
There's a lot of evidence coming out about possible contraindications with the Myrna.
Evidence has come out, a very definitive mask survey.
Where do you want to start today?
Because the conventional wisdom from two years ago and even a year ago has somewhat tossed out the door.
Dr. David Hartsuch.
Well, I think I think I could be out here John and you know first of all I think what's happening is what we're seeing is the slow Not even slow.
It's fast unwinding of their story They they have done everything they can to prop up the sinking ship and it's not going their way
All right.
Yeah, I think that's I think that's absolutely true What you obviously were using early aggressive
antiviral therapy when you had COVID patients.
We've always done that historically with any pandemic.
Why, this time around, were we doing literally nothing at the front end to proactively treat at the front end with different antiviral therapies?
This was almost unheard of except for folks like you physicians that got on the line with me today.
Yeah, I
think, John, that the government policy has been to get everybody vaccinated without any force of law.
And the way you do that is you make sure that the people don't know about the risks or lack of efficacy or alternative treatments to the vaccine.
And if you can deprive people of that information, then they're going to feel like there's no other option but to get vaccinated.
This is basically trying to undermine the patient's right to inform consent.
That's just amazing and terrifying prospect when you think about it.
Dr. Ted Fogarty, you actually have proven that despite the kind of the one-way unilateral vocalizations from public health, from federal health,
Your treatments essentially got the imprimatur.
You got carousel money because of some of the proactive treatments that you were using.
So your protocol has been validated.
Absolutely, John.
This is actually the anti-pandemic play of all time, which globally can be used through jets in, for instance, aircraftHBOT.org is a site that everybody should look into because we are eventually at some point in time probably going to need to employ jets as mild hyperbaric chambers to get this country back off of its knees after what this profession of medicine and public health has done to all of these great American families by restricting and handcuffing all of these great doctors, these 12 doctors
that were released into the newspaper media in December of last year are now 12 of my best friends in Iowa.
Yeah.
Yeah, as an elected public official here in Iowa and the Iowa State representatives, I think it's atrocious what the Iowa Board of Medicine is doing.
They're basically punishing the best doctors, the most curative doctors to this whole cycle, which is just unbelievable.
and they're worse than that, I think they're really chilling speech that brings about this informed consent.
And let me just give you in the
audience and the listeners a sketch of how this is academic racketeering as somebody who's come out of academic medicine to help to help to develop the anti-pandemic measures for all time for every RNA virus, which is based in hyperbaric.
This is where this all works.
Dr. Fogarty, real quickly and then I'll go back to heart such.
Dr. Fogarty, explain why hyperbaric works.
I've been up there to your clinic.
I think it absolutely has great efficacy.
You're seeing great results.
with things like stroke victims, concussion victims.
Why does hyperbaric for our audience, the 32nd elevator speech, how and why does hyperbarics work?
It
provides the energy for yourself to actually replicate the mitochondria, the organelles inside the cells that are the heart and lungs of yourself.
Virtually the mitochondria are the heart and lungs of yourself.
They are processing energy and long-term multi dose hyperbaric therapy.
end up replicating the mitochondria.
It helps rebuild your mitochondrial levels in every cell all at once and about half of these mitochondria are getting trashed by the spike protein mediated disease processes of the vaccine as well as the original virus that came out of Wuhan, China and not by the hand of God but appears the hand of mankind.
The
ultimate shield for all of our mitochondria and we are literally, if you look at this bio weapons program, we are in a war.
for mitochondria, which are the energetic organelles that process and create the energy for every thought and every action of every human being on this planet.
So when I say that this is literally God's medicine from physics against this, against this unholy, unholy cult that has taken over medicine in our profession, I mean it.
and I will martyr my career on this hill to go after these people.
And this Federation of State Medical Boards, this is the mafia that is controlling all of our state medical boards and training our state chief investigators to go, how to go after the good docs like Dr. Hartzuch and Dr. Merritt and Dr. Meyer and Dr. James and all of these other Iowa greats that I know and love like brothers and sisters now.
Here with Dr. Ted Fogarty, guys, from the aeronautics clinic.
This is powerful, powerful stuff.
And what bothers me, Dr. David Hartsuch from the Quad Cities, is we've been stomping on the ground and pounding the table for a year in Iowa about this from the legislative branch to the executive branch.
And Doc, it ain't getting better.
There's this is an outrage and now it's time to really start making some noise because it's not getting better and really they're chilling free speech How can you do informed consent if you can't talk about it without getting in trouble by some magic star chamber black box of?
Abort of medicine Right
I
think that number one, not every problem is legislative.
The truth of the matter is, all of the laws are already on the books and the boards aren't following them.
The boards are doing directly opposite of what the law says they should.
There is a legal requirement that the Board of Medicine must uphold the ethics of medicine, which includes informed consent.
Every patient has a right to informed consent.
And physicians and the board have to respect that.
And instead, they're doing the opposite.
They're trying to suppress information that would affect informed consent of patients.
And they're doing this with the board of the Federation of State Medical Boards being their mouthpiece.
And the Federation of State Medical Boards on their website says we speak for the state medical boards that are our members.
And Dr. Shoudry, who is the president of the Federation of State Medical Boards, I think it's interesting the LA Times.
He said, due to their specialized knowledge and training, licensed physicians possess a high degree of public trust and therefore have a powerful platform in society, whether they recognize it or not.
Science does change.
We recognize that, but it's incumbent upon the physician, get this, to keep up with what is permissible, what's approved,
what's authorized and what's
not.
In
other words, those are dangerous
words to
me.
They are.
He's not saying that we should keep up on the latest science.
He's saying we need to keep up on the latest regulations of our speech.
Doc,
how do they reach you
along the Mississippi River, my friend?
My number is 563-293-7424.
That's 563-293-7424.
And I welcome anybody who's been vaccine injured.
to a text injury to that number.
I'll get that
text and we'll get you the help you need.
Guys, I can't wait till next week as we arc toward Christmas.
Stay safe up there with that snowblower.
Make sure Meyer doesn't injure himself.
We need him curing everybody with you up there.
And Doc Hartzich, I'll probably see you next week in Des Moines.
So guys, have a great weekend and go Hawks.
Scotty, always a highlight on our weekend on KXEL, the Blowtorch, 50,000 watts, caraming all across the Big Ten, especially in eastern Iowa on 1540 AM, 100.5 FM.
As my post Thanksgiving departure from my dear mother in Marion, we just drove by that beautiful KXEL transmitter and it's always wonderful in our business segment.
to bring on the matriarch of Haymes Homes LLC, this multi-generational family business of excellence, providing beautiful and safe and sturdy manufactured housing at very affordable prices to the folks in our community.
And what a thriving community.
I mean, Scott, Marion and Cedar Rapids were great when I grew up there as a kid.
But it's the business.
It's this economic explosion in eastern Iowa, which has occurred across a generation here.
And part of that's because we've got these entrepreneurs, the late, great Kurt Norma Hames and now Barbara Hames Bryant that continue to build this community and to one of the most
prosperous in the nation.
You know that's a great point John you know in Iowa we talk a lot about our family farms but we would be remiss if we didn't talk about our family owned businesses and multi-generational businesses and Barbo you've done so much for the Marion Cedar Rapids area but not only that in eastern Iowa as well I just want to wish you a happy Thanksgiving and talk to us a little bit about some of the specials that you have going on there as well as the food pantry.
Well, thank you gentlemen.
It's so great to hear from you.
I think you pretty much covered it three generations family business safe dirty housing Yeah, we're good Okay.
Yeah specials.
We have a beautiful double sectional for sale right now and you can see it on our website at www.jameshomes.com James Homes.com
It is a 1700 square feet, $159,000.
Oh, that's a
great
price.
I know, right?
It has a built-in front porch where you can see the beautiful park that it looks towards.
We have a dog park.
We have parks and playgrounds.
We have walking trails.
We have events for all of our residents.
And we have a food pantry.
We share the responsibility with Hey Cap here in Cedar Rapids.
And we have, oh, hundreds of our residents and non-residents that come and take advantage of our food pantry, especially this time
of year.
If they want to go online and maybe take a tour of the homes that you have available or do some research work, can they find you?
www.hameshomes.com.
That's H-A-M-E-S H-O-M-E-S dot com.
Or our sales center is at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road, Southwest and Cedar Rapids.
And we're open seven days a week, of course, except for major holidays.
Well, we just need you.
I know you're heading up the entire state of Iowa's GOP Women's Group.
You know, we've got one woman governor.
It'd be nice.
And one woman senator, we've got to have replacements for them down the line.
And you're still pretty young, Barbara.
Thanks, John.
No thanks.
Barbara Hames Bryant, guys.
Get over there and do some Christmas shopping.
Tis the season.
Financing's good.
Lots of opportunities.
These floor plans are awesome.
Get to that website.
It's a magnificent website.
HamesHomes.com.
We'll talk to you next week, Barbara.
Thanks, John.
You're the best.
So are you, Barbara.
HamesHomes.com.
You know Scotty one thing is I love about radio is the music and the music of the Christmas season We're gonna bring a little bit that to you over these next two weeks This instrumental was a Jackie Gleason Orchestra a lot of people don't realize Jackie Gleason released a lot of epic
albums that were chart toppers in the 50s and 60s.
Not that he could read music particularly well, but he loved having the baton and this stuff sounds good.
It sure does, John.
It just shows how multifaceted and talented he really was.
When you think of Jackie Gleason, you do not think of instrumentals or anything like that.
You think of being bombastic and everything.
And so, you know, during this Christmas season, we're all kind of a little bit like Jackie Gleason.
Sometimes we get a little bombastic in the shopping lines, but as well as around the family.
table when the in-laws are maybe giving you a little bit too much grief but deep down it's just the dulcet tones that kind of calms everybody down at the end of the day as well.
And as I always say the lovely and gracious Mrs. Jacobson honey you're the greatest and I'll tell you one other thing Scotty is Iowans watch the greatest Iowa actors in Christmas movies John Wayne in Three Godfathers and Donna Reed and it's a wonderful life.
This is the Jacobson group.
Thanks to engineer Mike Shane, Scott Corey, the doctors, and our great JFK panel part two next week.
Thanks, Dr. Jeff Stein.
To all of you be safe, be smart, be good, be strong.
Love Jesus Christ.
It's the Advent season heading into Christmas.
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