KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - July 2, 2022

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Iowa near Highway 71, John Jacobson here with an ensemble cast that has won 37 Iowa Broadcast News Association Awards with our debut Fourth of July Independence Day program here, sponsored by Hames Mobile Homes and Doctors Ted Fogarty and Bradley Meyer.

Joining me today, Scott Corey.

David Overholster, Hawkeye John Stewart, Husker Kipp and Sheila Murphy, Chip Reidman, Coach Patrick J. Knapp Jr., and Impressario TCM collaborator and AFI.

Awarded Bruce Crawford, Mr. Hollywood himself.

A wonderful show today.

Stand by.

All right.

Let's cue up Decision 76 because we're deciding on these movies here.

The spirit of 1776.

Okay.

Henry Mancini.

Great guy, right Bruce?

Yes.

Now Sheila, I want you to lay out the rules.

Sheila lays out the rules.

I call on the students Bruce O'Pines.

Great patriotic movies which can include sports movies.

Sheila, give us the rules of the game.

The rules are simple John.

Everybody has in mind a few of their most favorite patriotic movies.

You name your top movie and why it is your favorite and then Bruce will tell us what he thinks of it, what he knows about it, his interpretation of it.

And if your top pick has been chosen, you go to your second and if your second's been chosen, you go to your third and so forth.

All right.

But keep going.

And that's it.

We're just going to talk about the favorites, the things that touch our hearts and why.

So we've got Johnny Stewart, Kip Murphy, Sheila Murphy, Coach Knapp, Jacob Hall, Matt Gars, Chip Readman, that's seven votes there, you know, we've got a good odd number.

Let's underlay this with some James Cagney, Yankee Doodle Dandy.

It is an Independence Day for me, Bruce, unless I watch that movie.

So we're going to

Take a start here.

Let's bring in Coach Patrick J. Knapp Jr.

Coach Knapp, what's your favorite patriotic movie?

Well, I've got a few that are going to stun you, but I'm going to go with chalk here.

I have always been enamored by and motivated by and emotionally involved in glory.

Glory.

Matthew Broderick and Morgan Frick.

Coach goes with Glory.

Bruce, tell us about that movie.

Do you think that's a worthy choice for the stable of great patriotic movies?

Well, absolutely.

It's a superb film of modern classic, really.

And Denzel Washington, of course, became, it made him a star.

I mean, he created the career that we still know him for today, of course.

And it's a superb film and a true story, too, about the first black regiment that fought in the

Civil war and and how they were not to ruin it for those who haven't seen it, but if they know their history they were They were massacred basically by the Confederates the rebels and it's a superb performance knows that the great dialogue between Morgan Freeman and Denzel Washington because Washington plays a bit of a bigoted African American and he's not doesn't think much of the white folks and

Morgan Freeman puts them in his place and tells him how there's been tens of thousands hundreds of thousands that are dying to set you free So it's a great scene in a great movie.

Well, I love that coach nap I'm gonna go back to you for just a second that you've chosen this coach among all of us in this studio today and on the line you basically

integrated and coached championship teams that were filled with both African-American and European-descended American athletes and you had these teams cohesive, graduating and winning.

Does that inform your love of the movie Glory?

Because you really cobbled together tremendous unity.

Well, I've always been a person to be quite honest John where all lives matter and any injustices Should not happen and should be righted if they're wronged.

So in some ways, yes, I Was just emotionally always taken by the movie and how

the bravery of those, of anybody who bought the Civil War, to be quite honest with you, because it was a bloodbath.

But yes, there is a black-white dynamic that was very interesting.

I urge all of you to check your family histories.

My great, great, great grandfather, Paris Whiting, fought in the Civil War, enlisted in the Illinois Infantry and was down in Kentucky.

fighting the Confederates actually caught typhoid fever at the end of the war almost died many great sacrifices much a heroism one in four American males in the Civil War either died or had amputations it was an incredible Americans have not lost

more in any war casualty other than civil war.

Let's bring in Jacob Hall.

Jacob, we're so honored to have you again today.

You broke so much national news out of Iowa this week.

You've got young kids and you're a great dad.

Your wife is just a beloved mom.

I know you help educate your kids.

When they come to Capitol, they're in suits and ties.

They just look sharp.

You're inculcating great values of these kids.

What's your favorite patriotic movie, Jacob Hall?

I know you come to like coach from a sports background.

Yeah, because I come from the sports world, I'm going to say.

First of all, I'm going to say I'm kind of surprised at the lack of patriotic movies produced kind of recently.

I'm sure I might be missing some but you know there's Midway there's 1917 but my favorite overall has to be the miracle on ice miracle just because I've always been a fan of true stories and then to see it put on the screen it truly is an inspirational story and anytime the Soviets go down who doesn't get behind that.

Do we get a bell ring for Jacob here?

You know Bruce?

Hall makes some great points here.

They don't make movies like they used to, but I myself find also, I won't give it away.

There are two old black and white sports movies that I have in my list.

What's this vortex of Venn diagrams that puts the sports movie into that patriotic realm?

We've got both Coach and Jacob out of the gate here going into that genre of films.

Well,

Of course, glory was not a sports thing.

Well, that's true.

But Miracle of Niceness is because it's a true story and most of us were alive when that happened.

And everyone likes the victor that comes from behind and is expected to be, you know, it's to lose.

It's the the upset that is what I think is what captivates people and the low expectations.

And then they surprise you that's always been something I think that appeals to all people really don't you think it's

part of the film art too You know of that rising action the conflict

well the unexpected Flip you know that it was it was not expected to happen especially

hockey.

I'm with Russia.

It's absolutely.

It's it was an impossible dream, you know.

Yeah, for for I was in the college dorm at that time and the Soviets were a professional military team and we had a bunch of kids in there, right?

Coach Knapp, would you as chair to have an assessment?

You were around during those days.

Hard to say.

Bruce Crawford here with us, the legendary one.

Bruce, you've had how many of these Omaha classic film events?

45 in 1992.

You've

had like every major actor's family in here.

It's like Omaha becomes Hollywood when you do this.

And

you always do this.

Classic

Hollywood.

For charity.

I just, I laud your humanitarian instincts.

Well, it just turned out that way.

It just turned out that way.

I didn't plan it that way.

It just happened.

Bruce, do you have anything in there?

Hopper for the future in the card if I have stuff

on the back burner that I had to put on back burner because of the Pandemic so

now but you'll be back.

Well, we're hoping to you know, it's hoping that the things will get back and open up and maybe you know Look at I have my favorite venue, of course.

I enjoy the with a spoon, but they're still

Shut down for a while, so we'll see what happens.

Bruce is so humble, so I can't talk about your Honorary Academy Award,

huh?

No.

Okay.

I can't talk about how you were given the American Film Institute Award at the Kennedy Center.

Not really.

Okay, all righty.

But Jacob Hall, don't you think this guy would command the entire Iowa Legislature in a special film review?

Maybe a bipartisan.

Mr. Smith goes to Washington event for charity.

Oh, I think that

You know, John, this is a good opportunity for you to become a writer and just let somebody else produce some documentaries from the Iowa Legislature.

I don't know if you could make up a story or two or not,

but it's

something you could explore.

As we found out, we don't have to make up these stories.

They write themselves, don't they, Jacob?

As long as there's a journalist who wants to sink their teeth in them.

All right, Matt Garst is up next.

Matt, you are the father of three wonderful young kids, too.

Jacob is a great dad, and of course, Coach, we just got great input so far.

Matt Garce, what are you going with for your favorite patriotic movie?

Well, Coach took mine, my first one.

Miracle is also on my list.

See, Sheila, you boxed him out.

You know, Sheila says if it's already been taken, you gotta dig deeply in the well here.

I told people to be prepared with a few.

All right, Matthew, Matt, Matt will come up with something here.

Okay, no, I'm good.

I'm gonna take Saving Private Ryan.

This is the movie that I saw in the theater when it came out.

I also recently, I think they're gonna delay my father of the year award for a little bit because my oldest boy and I watched that.

It's a great patriotic film.

It shows the struggles that

soldiers went through at that time and the human aspect of battle.

I thought that was a tremendous

film.

Bruce Crawford, and by the way, all of Bruce's fans are listening in today.

Jerry and Patty Gress wanted to know, you know, when you're on today,

we've got so

many people that are tuning in for Bruce.

Bruce, what about Matt's pick, Saving Private Ryan?

Well, yeah, it's certainly one of the great modern-day World War II films, and very graphic for a few moments there at the beginning when they stormed the beach, of course.

And there's always debate on whether it has to really be that graphic or not, because that's debatable.

Because that did exist, of course, obviously.

65 million people lost their lives in World War II.

That's a low estimate.

But there are other World War II-themed films that aren't so graphic.

But in one way, I'm glad that it is because it sends home the message that this was horrific, nothing more horrific in human history than World War II and human's existence.

But there are other people who I've known that were in D-Day and even in Battle of the Bull just said that they saw some of their friends and buddies die and didn't have a marker on them.

They just wouldn't even know they were dead.

So that's how death can be.

It can be graphic or it can be almost benign.

Well, the suddenness and the randomness of it, sense of Iwo Jima

in that home.

The randomness of life, you know, that's what is so compelling and so frightening in some ways because no one's immune from it.

Hey, I'm just going to decide by real quickly.

Bruce, you and I, our favorite Democrat is John F. Kennedy.

I'm just putting this in there as a sidebar conversation.

Are you a fan of Cliff Robertson's

portrayal in P.T.

Wild Nights?

I was going to bring up P.T.

Wild Nights because it is a superb film and it's very accurate too, because the people were a little... Is it black and white?

It is.

It is.

It is.

It is.

It is.

It's a kind of... It's a superb film, really.

It's just as a film.

If you didn't know anything about the history or who the people were, it's a true story of real heroism.

And you think about that, JFK was 25 or four years old.

I think how my God, how young that is,

and took his busted back and grabbed a man who had four three and fourth degree burns put a rope under his arms and the clenched the rope in his teeth and swam ten miles with a busted back.

I don't know how anybody could tell he did that.

Sheila

would say that's

just

a tough Irishman right Sheila?

Well that that is a typical Irishman but still we admire that courage.

That is a true courageous heroic

thing

because I couldn't do that and he did it twice.

Wow.

It is

first five miles and another six miles to another island.

And 24 or five years old.

Oh my God.

It's

amazing.

Hey, in my bedroom as a youth, that 10, 11 year old John Jacobson, I had a poster of Bart Starr, the Packer Quarterback,

and

I had a poster of American flag with the John F. Kennedy quote that said, Let us go forth to lead the land we love.

Right.

While I was reading through making of the president 1960.

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Happy Independence Day.

Happy Independence Day, John.

Let's

bring on Chip Reidman.

Chip, I know you've got a bevy in your tank of classic movies and can we get you to make Sheila take the vapors on this one here maybe?

Yeah, I

definitely am going to be pushing that.

We've mentioned some really good ones I had on my list.

Jacob and coach, a miracle, great movie.

There's a lot of them out there and a lot of them we haven't mentioned.

So I'm going to see if Sheila's going to play.

Card on me on this one.

So I'm not gonna nominate one, but I'm gonna nominate a series of movies that were starring Bruce Willis These movies are unique because they started or actually got the genre going of the lone man the single man that's up against a small army

of bad guys.

In this case, he's a policeman.

It supports law and order.

That's the patriotic side about it.

You go through time, the different movies, and this is Die Hard, in case anyone hasn't guessed it yet.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, I just want you to know that Chip Reidman was arguing for Die Hard as one of the great Christmas movies a mere six months ago, just for continuity here.

Yes, sir.

But continue, Mr. Reidman, continue.

So

yeah,

he's kind of, I mean, there's a feathery of bad guys in this.

Two movies that have Germans involved.

Terrorists or stealing bonds, money, heists, going on.

There's a local terrorist, a cyber terrorist.

That was in the fourth one.

The last movie that really didn't do that well in the box office was A Good Day to Die Hard, and that one involved, they brought his son in and he went to Russia.

His son was a CIA operative.

So he's fighting bad guys in Russia.

I'll kind of leave it at that at the moment.

He's fighting bad guys in Russia.

He was fighting bad guys in Russia.

You mean like Hunter Biden?

No, not in

this movie.

He might have been in the United States or he probably in China at that

point.

Oh, guess the rim shot.

All right.

Okay, so Bruce Crawford.

What do you say to that, Bruce?

Yeah, Bruce, give it some die-hard, Bruce.

How do you follow

that, Bruce?

I think it's... He makes some good points, though.

He makes some valid points that these are really bad people and they're not looking out for us or the country or the American people in general, so he does... He makes a good point, but the one thing I will have to debate in my...

Those films were not the first of a one-man fighting against all odds against the

perfect segue for Bruce See how Bruce just sets this stuff up.

All right, Bruce elaborate slightly

before

before I bring chip back to do that Honda

there been a

little and then we bring back coach Jacob Matt and Rotate

films of that not quite on the stature of a level of I should say stature the level of

a

of Die Hard, but there have been the man fighting against incredible odds against people who won't let him, you know, who want to bring him down.

And even Mr. Smith goes to Washington, he can put in that category.

Let's talk about a person against all the odds.

I mean, they're all trying to, they're trying to kill him too.

So your

biggest against all odds movies again, Mr. Smith and what?

That might be at the top of the list actually.

Is

there a runner up?

Well, you don't have to think about it, but

I got to but I'm gonna say that because before we go to our a little Honda break I want to weigh in here with Kip Kip.

What's on your list?

My list is my surprising people When I was thinking of fourth July, I think of the movie 1776.

Oh That's

a real shock.

That's a real shock I think you meant the musical musical the

musical

yes,

um, but

I think a lot of people would have thought I might have gone with one of the war movies, but I think 1776 was just a fun movie.

We

saw that as a class.

We took a bus to the theater to see that at the theater.

As I said the other day, another station, is that, you know, patriotic films cover a wide, they're not just war pictures.

You know, that 1776 is, that defines this country.

Without that, there is no 4th of July.

See, that, Bruce, I love what you just said.

1776 is about the idea of America the war was fought later

to protect it

But the idea the founding documents that natural law that comes into the declaration and doubt

they are

creator

and even Some films you would never necessarily put in that category, but still defend to protect people or or what we believe in the American Constitution, you know, I mentioned the other day

to kill a mockingbird has an attorney who represents the downtrodden in the Lincoln-esque manner,

you know,

because the graveyard peck is Abraham Lincoln.

That's fate.

That's who Atticus Finch really is, you know, and that could be more patriotic than taking on the side of the of the down of the persons who are being oppressed and he clearly does and fails but he died but he but as Teddy Roosevelt said he goes but at least at least died trying

with

America's great film historian.

We've got him.

He's Omaha's own Bruce Crawford.

All right, John Stewart.

You know, people are picking off movies.

What do you go with?

Well, we're kind of been listening to the background probably of Mr. Jacobson's in my favorite, but kind of following a little bit of the of the

of the war picture scene, and I don't know if you really call it necessarily a movie, but I always think of North and South.

Oh, North and

South.

That's a Civil War theme.

But you could throw a lot of, you know, they could put other, you know, Rain Tree County.

But to be honest with you, my favorite Civil War movie of all time, and a truly great patriotic film is Audie Murphy.

in the badge of courage by john houston even crane

novel

and i bet

most people have not seen that movie

well they run it quite a bit on turner classic movies i think it's running this weekend it's a brilliant film it runs sixty nine minutes but it feels like two and a half three hours it's it's it's so epic it's

I can't stress enough how I'm spectacular.

That's the greatest Civil War movie I've ever seen.

I tops all the others for me and I can defend it and I can prove it.

You must watch it at least once in your life to see this film.

Bruce, you

have collaborated with TCM.

Obviously you work with a great late great Robert

Osborn

who I loved

and you

know, you know what Ben Mankiewicz?

So you

kind of hang with those guys a little bit, don't

you?

Well, we're in touch.

Yes, we know each other and we're kind of a small group to begin with, you know, of people who have done this course.

Touring class movies gets 20, 30,000.

people for a three-day festival so it's

Huge.

I love the silence on Sunday nights.

Those are good.

That's an acquired taste I'm a film historian, but there are many silent films that really just girl on the

moon, baby.

Frown moon.

That's the one.

Metropolis by Fritz Lang and anything by Chaplin and Keaton is in silent is going to be worth watching.

And of course, the Lost World is a great with Wallace Beery is a brilliant.

People always

tell me I

would have been I would have been great in silent films.

That's what my wife always

tells me.

Yeah.

We can only

hope.

Yeah, but

Mrs. Jacobson also says that you have a good face and figure for radios.

Oh, Johnny coming in there.

Hey, Sheila, you get the last word before Honda in round two.

Alrighty, well, I was going to go with either Mr. Smith goes to Washington or Yankee Doodle Dandy, but I think they've both been hit on.

So I think that I'm gonna go with the green berets.

Oh, I

love it.

I love this outside the box choice I know Bruce is gonna love it.

I predict go

And I chose it because I think that period of history that that war has been so vilified and so misunderstood and yet it did involve Many great patriots

who were thought they were defending freedom in a in a small country where people were were horribly abused and and

religiously persecuted

people

forget what the how dire the religious persecution was by the communist north vietnamese against the south

and so uh these are patriots who have gone on unsung so that's that's my choice wow that's an

outside by bruce what say you

well it's a controversial film of the time it doesn't not so much now because the time and his

you know, as gives you, you know, gives us 20-20 hindsight, you know.

But it's either a film that's either loved or hated, there's no in-between on it.

But I can be in-between.

There are things about it I'm not too wild about, but overall it's an entertaining movie and it's a well-made movie.

I

love the Michaels Rosa

soundtrack.

Their

shades have been her in that.

That's why I love

that epic soundtrack.

Well, in an oriental mood.

Yes, yes.

But I think the intent was, it's the intent that counts more than the execution of it.

The intent was great.

And the intent was good.

And the intent was meant in a positive way.

It was never meant to be anything less than supportive.

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