Back In The Day With Carol Gianforte And Jim Mercier

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Back In The Day With Carol Gianforte And Jim Mercier

The Don Rosen Show · Thu Apr 30, 2026

Time of day just have a fight, sugar pops for snacks.

They taste your pride.

Kellogg's sugar corn pops.

Sugar pops are tops.

Here's the box with nutrition, let's pour some out.

You just spat milk.

And then you shout.

Kellogg's sugar corn pops.

Same thing.

Sugar pops are tops.

Kellogg's sugar corn pops for breakfast or snacks.

Give you vitamins and energy you need for a day of work or play.

And they taste like a million.

Popps are three, two, a shout with sugar.

Two and two.

Kellogg's sugar corn pops.

Sugar pops are tops.

Yeah, we need more sugar in our lives.

Dimasir, Carol, T and Forte here.

We're talking about dangerous things for kids in the 50's and 60's here in Racine.

I guess everywhere too.

Yeah, it's keep loading up on that sugar.

It's loaded with sugar.

More sugar than any other cereal.

This will keep you all awake for your months.

You want up the sleep with all these sugar.

Oh, yeah.

Wow.

And they brag about it.

And they brag.

Yeah.

Do they still have sugar corn pops?

They just go corn pops now.

They do.

Oh, of course.

KFC did that.

Yeah.

The reason it was KFC was they wanted to get the fried out of there.

Uh-huh.

And it was Kentucky fried chicken.

They want people fried.

It was good.

Bad thing at that time.

It's KFC.

We don't go with fried anymore.

Uh-huh.

That's why they do that.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, thank you, Don, for inviting us back here.

We're always glad to be back sharing our memories.

I think you muscled your way in.

But I think so too.

Yeah.

We broke into this too.

Yeah.

Go ahead, I'm sorry.

You know, Don, it was pretty much a miracle that any of us survived our childhood from the 50's

and 60's when you think about it.

I mean, we were exposed to second-hand smoke while we played in the streets.

Sugar was in everything, like Don just said, especially cereals.

It's hard to believe that some of the things that were normal for kids back then are considered dangerous today.

Right, Carol?

That's right, Jim.

I mean, when you look back, we are survivors.

Yep.

We were so innocent in not realizing the dangers.

And, you know, to be truthful, like we're going to talk about the dangers of second-hand smoke for us kids.

Some of that is in our lives with people that became ill that we knew.

But because we work on pleasant memories and nostalgia, we're going to kind of have fun with this topic and just realize that we did survive.

We survived.

So we expect to cover the dangers of smoking of the food like sugar and even the family cars today.

So let's start with smoking.

And we had fun, actually, Jim, you and I, trying to think of, well, where were people smoking, meaning the adults?

And then we as kids, of course, were maybe too early copying them.

But we're going to get to the second-hand smoke.

But adults, we smoked everywhere.

So we talked about, of course, we smoked in the, our adults in the family car, in the buses.

Airplanes, now in the deep research that I did, it said approximately one-third of all passengers smoked on the flights.

And the airlines even, of course, handed out the extra packs, the complimentary packs of cigarettes.

And there's the sticky in the back in the smoking section, like we're in a tube.

What do you think all this air is going through?

It's something with movie theaters.

Didn't think of that. We didn't have that, don't we?

You can smoke in the side sections.

But you can see when the projector, because you have the smoke in the projector, right?

Yeah, we're going to get it.

We're going to get it.

We're going to get it eventually, right?

Jane, well, and even in doctor's office is the waiting rooms.

I guess that, of course, story.

My doctor was Dr. Theerman.

And while he's examining, he was often on the cigarette, putting it down, not blowing it in your face, but he's taking a puff and ease, you know, doing with his deathoscope.

But while he's examining me, you know, give me exactly the pops of a cigarette right there.

Yeah, happening to me too.

Yeah, I would think him, yes, Dr. Betjouk says.

You're smoking away?

Yeah.

Oh, Lord.

He must not have heard about smoking was dangerous to your health, right?

No, that hasn't been revealed.

Prior to 64, maybe.

A little kid at seven or eight years old is blowing.

Yes, you're getting all this.

You're getting all this.

Yeah, I think you could smoke in hospitals.

And for sure, in the work offices.

Yep.

And Jim, you were going to tell us later about the extent of your second and spoken office.

Oh, geez.

Yeah, quick story.

We had a guy at Bob Lawrence, who was my first program director when I was a teenager working in New York.

And we had, it's a different microphone than this.

But it had like a screen on it on the microphone.

He used to take a policy and blow it right through the microphone.

It was all brown when you took the cover up.

You could see the little holes that were still white.

But it was all brown.

Yeah.

When I worked in Milwaukee at a station, we had white carpeting on the walls.

And we moved to downtown Milwaukee.

They pulled the equipment apart.

You can't believe how brown the wall was.

Oh, geez.

Just from the smoking and that studio.

That goes lungs.

Yeah.

Oh.

Well, yes.

That was the phrase tar and nicotine.

You know, we just were unaware that they were leading to heart and lung problems.

Or is the public, I guess, the last, you know, we were encouraged to smoke, actually, Jim.

Yeah.

That's right.

Yeah.

We were encouraged by doctors and even dentists.

Carol and I have seen some ads, magazine ads, where the doctor would recommend specific brands of cigarettes or the dentists would do the same thing.

And you'd see smoking in all those movies, especially the older movies.

You'd always see Humphrey Bogart smoking a cigarette, even on TV.

Those who watched, what was that show?

Columbo.

Yeah.

Well, Dick Van Dyne actually did commercials for smoking on the shirt.

Sure.

Yeah.

This is a real good take.

Yeah.

He had Sullivan's show with sponsor by Kent cigarettes.

Uh-huh.

And not at some, but his announcer's come out.

Maybe an announcer, no less.

Yeah.

Come on.

Can't smooth tobacco.

Sure.

Yeah.

Johnny Carson was another one, Arthur Gottfried.

They all endorsed certain brands of cigarettes.

And Carol did some research here and I know that I love Lucy.

I love Lucy with another one sponsored by Philip Morris.

Yeah.

Okay.

So a lot of smoking was built even right into the script.

Yep.

Jackie Gleason.

Oh, yeah.

Tell us.

Yes.

He smoked according to what we found out or Carol found out a hundred cigarettes a day, a hundred cigarettes a day.

Well, 20s to 20 cigarettes to a pack five packs a day.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's right.

Yeah.

And some of the ads that we saw actually featured parents smoking with a baby, you know, the

Brady was breathing a nice family.

Nice family.

Yeah.

Yes.

Exactly right.

We're talking to Carol Jean Fortee and Jim Bessier and it's our month to get together.

Are you smoking or that cough?

Yeah.

Is this a smoke or something?

I put my cigarette out just knowing that I never had a cigarette my entire line.

I know.

I have not either.

Never even tried it.

Never even either.

Never had a beer.

Never had a cup of coffee.

Never had a lot of things.

My gosh.

I know.

My goodness.

Good.

Good Lord.

What's going on?

Good Lord.

Look how he looks too.

Anyway, we're talking about dangerous things, 50s and 60s for the definitely kids, but the family.

And we're talking about cigarettes right now.

We can't get more dangerous than cigarettes, but it actually does get more dangerous.

So you don't find out.

But go ahead.

Well, we were talking about our role models like I love Lucy.

I was sponsored by Philip Morris.

So there was plenty of smoking there on TV.

Dean Martin.

We know that he had, you know, a drink and a cigarette in hand at all times.

I used to love dragnet years ago.

Sergeant Joe Friday.

Yeah.

I also would like Peter Gunn.

So I looked that up.

I can't swear to this, but it said his favorite brand was Lucky Strike, just so you know.

And then you mentioned Columbo and his cigars.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I like Columbo.

No fairness.

He always says, I know this is a dirty habit.

I should stop.

Yes.

He always says that on there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's right.

He never did though.

No.

Well, the brands, still many still around, but many not.

Jim, tell us about the brands.

Well, they all had high nicotine content.

And of course, the earlier ones had no filters.

But some of the brands that my dad used to smoke and I remember him going to the store and getting

were lucky strikes.

Philip Morris.

Carol, you mentioned that.

Camels.

The worst.

Yeah.

No filters.

Yes, right.

Camel.

Yeah.

Pal Mal, of course.

Old gold.

Chesterfield was another popular one back then.

There were so many.

Yeah.

Well, Raleigh.

Raleigh.

Yeah.

And Raleigh.

And also Kent cigarettes.

And I'm going to get to Kent because I discovered that of all the cigarettes, Kent supposedly

was the worst for you.

And it was known as the Kent having the microfilter.

Oh, yeah.

A microfilter.

And actually, the microfilter was not helpful.

No kidding.

It was the worst.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, my brother had his band back in the mid-early mid-60s.

They used to send me down to the stores to get from the cigarettes.

Sure.

And I remember it was $0.29 for a packy camel.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, another research find that I had was about Marlboro.

Now, in 19, let's see, 54, the sales were not that good.

And so the company engaged the Leo Burnett marketing advertising firm from Chicago.

And Leo Burnett himself, the owner, is credited with coming up with the Marlboro man.

Who died of cancer from cigarettes?

Yes.

That's right.

Yeah.

Marlboro country.

Yeah.

And they used the theme song from the Magnificent 7.

Yeah.

That was their big song.

People said, oh, they used that in the movie later.

No, we had the way around.

I used it in the cigarette.

It was an immediate smash success.

Pack or box.

Yep.

Remember that?

You get it in package or you can get them in box.

Okay.

That's right.

You remember I had the flip top box on it up?

Oh, flip top box.

Yeah.

But you could also get the regular package, like the self hand package.

Yeah.

Where you can get the box down.

Right.

Flip box.

And then not to leave the female out, mothers, grandmothers.

In 1968.

Virginia Slims.

Yeah.

Virginia Slims.

Yeah.

Virginia Slims.

You've come a long way, baby.

That ain't sexy.

Yeah.

That's her line.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Think of that.

To get where you got to today.

You got your own cigarette now, baby.

You've come a long, long way.

Yeah.

That's right.

I can't believe I remember them.

I'm so embarrassed.

I'm shocked at this too.

And you were never tempted.

Well, I guess I wasn't either.

And Jim had said a pack of cigarettes he thought was about 30 cents.

30 cents?

Yeah.

29 cents.

29 cents.

Time to camel, yeah.

Yep.

That's right.

Mothers with little children hovering around.

What are they charged now for a pack?

No.

No.

But all your research and investigative journalism.

No.

We're in the past time.

We're about the past.

Yeah.

We don't know the current or the future.

Jim, what about even how kids would go to the stores?

Well, that's right.

A lot of times, my dad would send me to Cristiano's besides buying milk or bread.

Pick up a pack of lucky strikes.

And I was probably maybe seven or eight years old.

And the clerk would just hand me a pack of cigarettes for my dad.

And this was apparently a common occurrence as well,

where all kids would do that for their parents.

Tom.

What do you guess a pack of cigarettes cost today?

What does it give me a guess?

I don't weigh on it.

$3.

$10.

$25.

A pack?

What does that say?

From 30 cents to $10.

I'll be darned.

Why?

How can you afford smoke?

Yeah.

Wow.

Okay.

I guess you do without food for your family if you smoke.

Yeah.

You just don't eat.

That's right.

Or you eat things with sugar, which we're getting to next.

Yeah.

Serial.

Yeah.

So, how about gifts of ash trays?

Oh, yeah.

Well, back then, you would maybe give somebody a gift,

a housewarming gift of an ash tray, you know,

because, or lighters for that matter.

And a lot of stores would give these ash trays away as a premium or promotion.

They'd have the advertising, there's store name on there,

and they would just give them away.

Now, they're highly collectible these ash trays with the stores name on them.

You put candy in them instead.

Yeah.

That's right.

That's right.

Yeah.

We can't get away from that.

We just can't get away from that.

But I would say that there was a store downtown for many years,

sandies are known as thrifty sandies, a gift section.

And I must have been junior high, maybe even some high school,

and people would be graduating, getting married,

and I go to that gift section,

and a big thing was beautiful ash trays, like in mosaic.

You know, in the shapes of leaves, you know, pelicans.

My parents used to have the neighbors over.

They went a different house in the neighborhood,

and I did it with one of the suburbs.

And I remember when I was sleeping,

I'd wake up and look at them.

It was like, London in the fog in that house.

And the next morning, all the ash trays,

we had a silent butler.

Remember those little things, you know?

Oh, yeah.

Secret butts everywhere in that house.

Ash is on the table.

Ash is on the couch.

Ash is on the chairs.

We're chatting this morning with Jim Bessire and Carol G.

And Forte.

I'll switch around later.

Carol, go first.

Yes, I've been waiting for that.

No, I did use you first earlier.

Okay, good.

I like it the way it is.

Yeah.

Jim and Carol are here, Carol and Jim are here.

And we talked about the dangers of growing up in the 50s

and the 60s.

We spent a lot of time on cigarettes.

And we're not quite finished.

But we're almost moving on to sugar.

And we're almost.

But to continue on with smoking.

I'll tell you a quick story.

My dad had pneumonia.

Back in the 60s, this was the day that he went to the doctor.

And the entire east coast had the power blackout.

Remember that?

The big blackout at 60.

It was 67.

Yeah.

That was the day he went to the doctor.

I'd say they got pneumonia.

Yeah.

Pay your bill because you'll be dead in a month.

At the rate you're going to see,

you're going to be dead today.

No way you're going to live.

My father stopped that day and never picked up another cigarette

for the rest of his life.

Yeah.

My mother had to stop because you can have smoke in the house.

So she stopped.

Good for her.

And neither one had ever picked up a cigarette from that day.

I'm from the day of the New York power blackout.

Where the east coast power blackout.

Mmm.

Mmm.

Mmm.

That's my story.

Go ahead.

That's your story.

Getting to know your parents.

More positive news.

Let's go.

They're death.

Okay.

And when we say you could smoke in the family car.

Well, we were remembering that cars came.

Standard.

With ash trays and lighters.

Yep.

I still have in my car.

Yeah.

But I used to, the, um, the ash tray is a chain thing.

You have to change.

Okay.

All right.

I throw out on my pennies because I don't take them anymore.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And finally, back to the surgeon general, I think.

Yeah.

Back in 1964.

A surgeon general came up with the fact cigarettes are bad for you.

They cause lung cancer.

And if you notice on these packs, right now, those who smoke, it says cigarettes can be dangerous to your health.

And how true that is.

Finally, we had the, the knowledge.

Yeah.

But that second and smoke.

Some of those components, arsenic, asbestos, radon, carbon monoxide.

Yep.

So we did survive.

Yes.

And we worked at a couple of places that had our offices were just one big area.

And most people smoked, but we thought nothing of it.

It was a very common thing to do.

And it was mostly cigarettes, but some guys smoked pipes, the cigars.

And, you know, we were breathing all the second hand smoke and never thought anything of it.

Well, here at the radio station, all the smokers had to go into the basement.

It wasn't built like it is now.

Okay.

It was just one big open space.

The chair is in a semi circle, and they don't smoke down there in the basement.

Yeah.

And we left the back door.

The building opens to the smoke went out the door.

Sure.

Now we don't have, I don't think we have any smokers left.

We had one recently.

And she had a standout on the, go out the back door and stand on the porch area in the back of the building and smoke.

Yeah.

Well, we're going to move on to something more interesting.

Foods with sugar.

Now, many products had a large content of sugar in them, especially cereals.

They even had sugar in their names.

Don mentioned this before, who remembers sugar smacks, sugar corn pops, of course.

Sugar frosted flakes, sugar crisp, and a lot more.

And of course, like Don said, they get rid of the word sugar because all of a sudden it was unhealthy for you.

And I was just corn pops and, you know, things like that.

Maybe we don't say sugar.

They won't know of your sugar.

Right.

The American public is pretty stupid.

Right.

They won't figure it out.

Yeah.

Even the non-sweetened cereals that we used to buy, like corn flakes and rice crispies, what did we do?

We would dump a ton of sugar on there.

You know, to make it taste good.

We had no idea that sugar would help you head toward diabetes at later ages.

That you would become addicted to more and more sugar.

So there we were.

Yeah.

Coolade.

Now, coolade was the drink of choice growing up.

Mm-hmm.

And that.

Little pack.

Yeah.

Little pack.

And to me.

And to make a picture of sugar of coolade, that was about two full cups of sugar that you would add.

You would always add more.

They had no sugar in it.

And then you put them in your head to add the sugar.

Then they came with pre-sweetened.

Yeah.

Later on.

Yeah.

You didn't have to have sugar.

Would that sugar it up for you?

Yeah.

Then you'd sugar on top of that sugar.

Your kids will be jumping off the walls like Roger Rabbit.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

So does, you know, all those flavors, cherry, grape.

We would kid each other about moustaches and all that.

And we, so do the big thing, including Jim, you were reminding me about the glass bottle

returns.

Yeah.

Returnable glass bottles, as you came in.

Yeah.

To the end.

We got the glass bottles.

We returned the glass bottles.

That's right.

Yes, for our soda with sugar.

Yep.

And then candy.

Oh my gosh.

Who remembers penny candy?

That was usually purchased at the small corner grocery store.

And, you know, penny candy was easy to sneak in, especially if your parents didn't want

you to have any candy like there's big candy bars.

You just buy this cheap penny candy and just put it in your pocket and, you know, away

you go.

A few examples were the candy buttons on that strip of paper down.

You should remember those.

Yes.

And when you took the little dots off, you got the paper with it.

You got the paper with it.

The paper with it.

Yes.

You basically had a book in your belly by the time it was all right.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wax lips.

Of course.

We had some bitter honey and tootsie rolls.

They also came in the penny size.

A saltwater taffy was another one.

But one of our favorites, of course, was ice cream, right, Karen?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Because, you know, probably when we were the youngest, ice cream was obviously a present chocolate

vanilla strawberry, neopolitan.

But pretty soon the companies became very aware that we could increase like baskin robins.

I mean, now there was a flavor.

31 flavors went for every day of the month.

So we had things like blue moon, rocky road.

So our use of ice cream was increasing.

Now, we had a Carvelle soft serve near Horlick.

Ooh, Carvelle.

Yeah.

Ooh.

Mm-hmm.

And when Dairy Queen, when the Dairy Queen came into this little teeny tiny hut on State Street

in my neighborhood, it could have been world-class headquarters.

I mean, we...

That was not ice cream.

That is its own...

Right.

Dairy Queen will never say ice cream.

Yeah.

It's a soft serve.

It's not ice cream, yeah.

I'm glad we could make the distinction here.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Yeah, see?

We need to keep accurate.

Everybody learn something.

All over it for me.

By the way, up until yesterday for decades, eight lucky charms.

Talk about sugar.

Yeah.

Lucky charms.

And I was getting headaches.

Some of them said stop.

So I got honey that cheerios, which is probably just as bad.

But they don't have the...

They're not magically delicious.

But I...

I eat lucky charms every day.

A little bit in the cup with milk.

And that's why I used to...

For dessert.

Sure.

And I got headaches and I stopped.

Look at that.

Yesterday was my last day with lucky charms.

Look at that.

It's already...

What a testimonial.

Yeah.

That was a testimony.

Oh, we just heard it.

And because of ice cream, you know, we had Tomkin's velvet freeze.

Yeah.

By the plaza.

We love that at the plaza.

Yep.

That's right.

And big boy over there by the plaza with Sundays.

Yeah.

Ice cream truck that Mr. Softy would say...

Mr. Softy came around in neighborhood all the time ringing this bell.

You know, we're playing that music that we got sick of later on, you know.

Well, I'm a good humor.

He had the menu for the ice creams.

Oh.

Right in front of the exhaust pipe.

Oh.

So why are you reading it?

You just smoked two-packed cigarettes.

What?

You're why you're reading the menu.

What the...

It was a right back in the...

Yeah.

And it felt good because it was warm.

But...

Yeah.

And we're talking about the Forte and Jim Bessier here.

We're talking about the dangerous things we grew up with in the 50s, 60s and beyond.

We just spent about 45 minutes or 40 minutes on cigarettes.

And a few minutes on sugar.

We don't want sugar.

No.

We said we're sugar.

Oh, long way to go.

We didn't go yet.

And by the way, the sugar-free stuff was worse than the sugar.

Yeah.

Because I used to drink a lot of diet Pepsi because I said, well, no sugar.

And my wife said, do you know what's in there?

Do you know the chemicals are in there?

Yeah.

And this is stuff they make atom bombs with.

And you're drunk.

This is basically a road salt.

You're drinkin' it.

Right here we go ahead.

Of course, we also had cotton candy.

We get that at maybe a circus or a carnival.

Spongebob.

Spongebob.

Spongebob.

It's all a lot of sugar.

Yeah.

Fourth of July.

Fourth of July, you see everybody.

These vendors walking up and down the streets, you know, with the cotton candy.

Cracker Jack was another favorite with everybody with the prize inside.

Back then, hostess would make Twinkies, cupcakes, snowballs.

I just bought some Twinkies the other day.

Don't tell my wife.

She's listening.

Yeah, right.

Don't tell her.

Back then it was ten cents.

We're covering ten cents.

The entire half of the state here.

Don't tell her.

Bubble gum.

Member of bazooka.

With the small comics inside.

Bazooka Joe.

Yes, right.

Now they were a big cause of cavities, of course.

Remember, blowing a bubble so big, it would pop over your nose.

You did that, Jim, huh?

Oh, Jesus.

Yes, yeah.

And then?

Well, candy, yes.

A pleasure to eat, but just we were unaware of how heavy farming this was.

And how eventually this led to overweight, et cetera, et cetera.

And to the dentist.

Do you remember liquor made?

Oh, yes.

You just ripped it open.

It was just sugar.

Yeah.

You don't sugar any amount.

That's exactly what it was.

Okay.

What did the dentist give you when you left if you were a good kid?

Give me candy.

Yeah.

To ensure you'd be back again.

Exactly.

No, hey, kid.

That's the stuff that got you here in the first place.

Yeah.

Take it.

Come back soon.

Well, even the school is expected.

And we, parents, that near a school would be a candy star.

So on near Lincoln school, we had pops outside the Washington, June or high, right in the back

door.

We had a kite in candy star.

And Jim, I think now you've got a fun story told me.

Well, yeah.

We did have a store by Holy Trinity on the cell side.

Oh.

Well, we did have a little mom and pop stand.

So whenever we'd have recess, especially lunch hour, somebody would go over there, open

up the little stand, and we'd give all our nickels and dimes, you know, to this lady,

buying popcorn, candy bars and everything else.

Well, one day our parish priest got wise and he said, hey, why should the kids give all

the money to this lady?

Give it to us instead.

So he opened up his own candy store in the basement.

So all the kids were encouraged to buy candy over there pretty soon that other stand

just didn't bother opening up anymore.

Enterprising priest.

Yes.

That's right.

Yeah.

Let's talk about.

Let's talk about process foods.

Yes.

I think mothers were starting to go to work and companies were just joining scientifically

and on what they could sell to us.

So it was an age where convenience processed foods with chemicals and preservatives were

coming in like cake mixes, instant puddings, canned vegetables, and I was led to thinking

about TV dinners.

I was about to say the worst for TV dinners.

When I was single for a while, my dad visited and he opened up my freezer, he says, my goodness,

what's going on in this freezer?

Everything is processed foods.

Yeah.

I said, well, I need some fast food.

Well, if this can be believed, it's on the internet, so it must be true.

In about 1953, Swanson's ended up, don't know why, but get this.

Get this now.

200 tons.

Yep.

True story.

Of unused frozen turkey.

And so an employee who goes down in infamy or whatever, Jerry Thomas is his name.

He was credited with helping Swanson get rid of that turkey.

The first turkey dinners for Swanson were made then and they sold 10 million right in

the first year.

And it was brilliant idea.

Wasn't it?

And it's not a bad idea when you were in a hurry and you got into some real quick, it's

not bad.

You know, if you don't do it, you know, 20 times a day.

Well, do you know what?

What?

Since I'm not the greatest cook, and if I'm alone, I eat a lot of Swanson TV dinners.

Do you make Swanson anymore?

Well, you know, banquet, I think a little banquet now.

I think that's what I guess that's my brand.

I did.

Again, when I was single, that's all I had in my freezer, banquet dinners, white castle

burgers, olives.

I thought it was so funny, I would say to people, well, it's Thanksgiving every day.

I just put a scull in crossbones on my freezer.

That's called what it is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And how about the bread?

Oh, geez.

The white bread, especially, they were loaded with chemicals and preservatives.

Some of the brand names, of course, were around here.

We had some local bread manufacturers.

Mrs. Carls was one and butternut.

Butternut was advertised, I think Mrs. Carls too, advertised by Woody the Woodpecker.

You know, we always give those commercials.

Gas hell.

Yeah, yeah.

Was Mrs. Carls in a blue and white cheque?

I think so, yes.

Right.

Yeah.

Wonder bread.

Build strong bodies, 12 ways.

Yeah.

Used to be eight though, I think, at first.

Yeah, it was eight, but they were better.

Yeah.

Then they found a way to...

They put more chemicals in there.

Yeah.

That was 12 ways.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The campus was a local bread manufacturer on 16th Street.

And a story there, you know, if you'd ever drive by there, I think it was made be second

shifters, whatever.

When they would bake the bread and the donuts, you could just smell it and just go nuts, you

know.

Those glaze donuts have the bread smell.

Those glaze donuts and the bread.

Oh, yes.

Oh.

Yeah.

Salt was another enemy, I guess you call it.

And salt was, of course, everywhere canned vegetables, soups, especially.

But we would be, you know, buying all those snacks all the time back then, potato chips

and pretzels loaded with salt.

And of course, we put salt on everything, especially popcorn.

You go to the movie, you know, theater and you just dump all those salt on there, corn

on a cob, butter and salt.

That's good.

That's good.

That's right.

Yeah.

I remember cooks and I am not one of those.

But starting to realize that a lot of salt was probably not good and it was very perplexing.

Yeah.

Well, what do you do if you don't salt it?

Yeah.

And I don't salt anything, but I was, we had pizza once, just years ago, and my friend

took salt and poured it all over the pepperoni pizza.

Oh, geez.

Yeah.

My arteries were clogging just with watching what he was doing.

Yeah.

Your blood pressure, his blood pressure was rising.

I don't put salt.

I don't think I put salt on that.

I don't think we've had salt in the house.

I don't think we've had salt in the house.

I don't think we've had salt in the house.

Well, we've got just a minute left to entice us with saying, we'll continue next time

with the danger of our family car.

To more feel good, I am, as we'll be talking about, because we didn't have anything like

seat belts.

I remember our neighbor, Robbie Jacobs, his mother got seat belts put in the car, and

we all went down to her house to see if there was just lap belts, they weren't like

they are today.

Yeah.

And they had them put in the car.

We said, wow, you're strapped in.

Yeah.

We've got to get out.

Yeah.

So just pulling that opens up.

We've got to get out in the hurry.

Yeah.

I mean, we just like I never saw a seat belt before.

Good, good.

Yeah.

Well, it took, we'll go into this next time, but Wisconsin was the first state, 1961,

to require front seat belts in new cars.

But it took 26 years later to say you must wear them.

Yeah.

Not too many of those poor people in the back seat.

They didn't have seat belts.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And of course, we'll be talking about.

Somebody guys did sketching back in the winter.

Hitchhiking was very popular back in the 50s, which you don't really see anymore.

We survived.

Yeah.

We survived.

Yeah.

Writing in the bed of a pickup truck as kids.

Yeah.

Remember that?

No, I don't know.

Okay.

And then after that, we're going to move on to our treating our skin.

And everybody remembers Mccuricome, you know, when you got a cut or a straight, your brother

would get drunk.

Yes.

Yes.

It's stung and it's smelled.

And uscales trying to get the best tan possible.

Yes.

Yes.

That's right.

Absolutely.

Right.

So we have a lot to talk about next month.

I want you to listen.

I'll air this.

I was supposed to be aired next week, but I'll put it on right after the news.

Nikki Glazer talking about spray on tans.

And what it did to people.

It's a comedy bit right after the news and eight o'clock.

I'll, I'll talk to our cars and turn it up.

I'll move that up.

It was supposed to be for next week or, but I'll move it up.

I think you'll like it.

You're helping us.

You're helping us entertain Don.

Well, I feel so good and healthy after this talk.

Yeah.

I didn't.

Yeah.

And I, I did have severe headaches in the last few weeks, but I love with some of the

lucky charms.

I don't know what it was, but that's didn't help.

And I got rid of it.

But hunting that Cheerios is probably just as bad.

Sure.

You know, it's not magic.

We delicious.

It doesn't have the marshmallows and all that kind of stuff.

But you know what they call them?

It's not marshmallows.

Marbits because they can't call them marshmallows because they're not.

They're marbits.

Those little things in what are they?

What are they?

I'll tell you what they are.

Potassium sulfate.

Right.

Right.

Some kind of chloride, something or other.

Yeah.

I have this bottle here.

I stopped drinking the carbonated beverages that we sugar-free.

So my wife gave me this splash.

Here's what's in it.

Beside water.

You ready for this?

Yeah.

Sodium phosphorate, magnesium sulfate, potassium sorbate, potassium benzate, then there's

something I can't even begin to pronounce.

This calcium, the sodium, is there anything called water in there?

Yeah, there's water in there.

Oh, okay.

Yep.

If you can't pronounce it, don't ingest it.

Yeah.

See you guys in a month.

Okay.

Nice job.

Thanks.

Love being here.

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