And let's say good morning to
Dr Cara Ogburn, she is the
artistic director for Milwaukee
film, the operators of the
Downer Theatre in downtown
Milwaukee also, the historic
Oriental Theatre, which I've
It is a movie palace.
It is, it's like stepping
back to the way they used to
20s, 30s, 40s, before
they used to see movies
before they used to see
movies back in the 20s, 30s,
40s, 40s, before they
became the smaller theaters
they are today. Dr. Ogburn,
thank you for joining us, Cara.
I do appreciate it.
Yeah, thank you, Dr. Good morning.
Now, the reason we're here is
Milwaukee Film does a lot of
presentations throughout the year.
They do recent presentation of
documentaries and so forth.
This time, it's a retrospective
on Rachel Tallah, who is a
director of Downer Lee TV shows
in a moment. Let's talk about
the retrospectives. How do you
choose who you're going to use
for a retrospective?
I mean, it's really,
it's kind of like a
like a very human process.
In some ways, you're looking
for who has work that we're
excited about. But then more
importantly, who's available and
who's interested? You know, we're
often honoring people who are
working. Michael Schultz, who we
brought here last month, is a
really thinking about schedule and
timing and, you know, delivering
Milwaukee, who are an incredible
audience, to kind of honor and
recognize the work of folks who
are still working, but who have a
remarkable career prior.
I think you're going to say, first
we have to find that who's alive.
And then sometimes that is
sometimes a factor when you get
very disappointed or where you're
like, okay, this person someday
and it's going to happen.
But you know, you're really, you're
and there's definitely more people
than we can bring here, right?
Or then schedules allow for
Rachel retrospective.
This is part of our
Cinematic Sisterhood series. This is
an ongoing since this summer.
And in partnership with and due to
some great support from the
Women's Fund of Greater Milwaukee
with this retrospective as the
centerpiece of Cinematic Sisterhood.
We're really trying to elevate
the voices that you don't necessarily
know are those that we were talking
before you went on air and you said,
oh, I would have thought the director
of Freddie's dead would have been
some horror guy.
But no, turns out, you know, Rachel
Tyler Lang has a remarkable career
kind of crashing that boys club of
John Russell making.
And we're excited to hear about how
she did it, why she did it, why she
keeps doing it.
And that's that kind of the
way she did it.
Rachel Tavila does a lot of TV
shows and you're going to show one of
those at the retrospective.
You couldn't tell me what one of
this, but you aren't going to show
well. It is a secret screening,
but it is one of her best known
television episodes from the very,
very, very long list.
So there's a fun game you can spend
from now until Saturday to trying to
guess what you think it might be.
We're going to show that episode
that she has directed.
I saw the list on IMDB,
and it takes a few minutes just to
scroll through it.
So no, you can't.
Now, I do, I remember
Idleapino was a woman
director early in the 1950s
and maybe late 40s.
She was an actor side of
lapino and very good actors too.
A lot of Humphrey, Bowguard,
movies and so forth.
But she became a director and
directed some big films
Idleapino.
I was trying to look back
were there any big women
directors before her?
I think she might have been
the biggest at that time.
Now there were other women who
directed, but she directed a lot of
hit movies.
Yeah, I mean, it's really
interesting. The earliest
earliest history of film really
starts with women.
It's not early, early
silent film.
It was actually a lot of women
making film.
But then, you know,
patriarchy gets in the way sometimes.
And so I think there's a lot of
women working in Hollywood who are
working behind the scenes,
below the line.
You don't know their name.
And then there's awfully a lot of
women who are making a career in
film whose name you don't know,
you don't know their name.
Yeah, I was looking it up on
IMDBI can't find her director
nods on here, but they do
have all their acting nods.
But yeah, she directed a whole
bunch of big films.
Okay, so we're going to talk about
some of the, you're going to show
two of the cold films that
Rachel Lala. I can't even say
your name. Don't don't tell me.
Tally. There you go.
I'll get it eventually.
They say the thing re is
being reviewed by Cisco neighbor
and the other one is Freddy's
dead, which was was at the final
Freddy movie in the Nightmare
No street films.
It. I believe it says it's
the final nightmare. So, you
know, nothing's never dealt
with fun because like they did
fright of the 13th.
The final chapter that was
right in the 13th new beginning.
And so, you know,
that's not a big deal.
And so, you know,
we're calling our full
retrospective, you know,
Colt Queen.
We're recognizing Rachel's
work as kind of
Colt royalty work.
But that really starts with
Tank Girl of which is on Friday
at 7 p.m. Rachel will be here for all three
of these presentations for
Q&A's. The opportunity to
be here for her.
We're actually showing
Tank Girl on 35 millimeter.
Yeah, but it's going to be a really
great, like, blast to the past.
It's 30th anniversary of the film
which came out in 1995.
And I think, you know, it's
close enough to Halloween that I'm
expecting some people to come
dressed in, like, Tank Girl
garb. So it should be a really
great time at the cinema.
And the woman who started in that,
giving her name because they just
were in the movie.
And recently, they did one of
those morphing things.
They show her what she looks
like today and they morpher
in the different years.
You ever see those YouTube
videos?
Yeah, yeah.
Or on Candy Valley.
Yeah.
Her biggest film was a
League of Their Own.
She was the one.
She was like the sister to, I
think, who was the, I can't
mind as jelly this morning.
She was one of the sisters of
one of the players on the team.
But she, she's got a great
career as well.
But Tank Girl is the Colt
film that people remember her
for.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to say, like, I
think a lot of people would say
her big film is Tank Girl
because it's, you know, such a
like a quintessential role
and one that's just so, like,
visually memorable.
I'm really excited to see some
of these, like, big scenes on
the biggest screen that, you know,
you can find in Milwaukee at
the Oriental Theater.
Now, Robert Angland, who plays
Freddie Krueger in these
Nightmare on Elm Street films,
you made a career out of it.
That's his big claim to fame.
I wonder if he was ever able
to get films after that,
because when you're so well
recognized as a character,
it's tough to change.
And a lot of actors
unfortunately found that out
when they were so, you know,
noted for a particular role
they couldn't get a role
elsewhere.
But Robert Angland was in, I
think it was in all the
Freddie movies.
Didn't they do Freddie
versus Jason or something?
I think there was a Freddie
versus Jason film, too.
Right.
And then, and then some
a compendium film.
Right.
These franchises really, you
know, and it's the season,
right?
We're getting, we're getting,
we're getting very close to Halloween
here.
So yeah, we closed the set,
the retrospective was Freddie
said to Final Nightmare,
which is actually Rachel's
directorial, you know,
kind of first feature,
but we, you know, we got it,
we got to answer that Final
Nightmare thing and play it
last,
on 8 p.m. on Saturday.
And I think we'll get to,
I think it'll be really interesting.
I think Rachel has some really
interesting insights on that idea
of being tight cast on, you
know, kind of like working
with actors and, yeah,
this crossover sequel,
you know, I think she'll have a
lot of opinions about the ways
that some of these franchises
have kind of taken over to,
to have this cultural
relevancy that may be
exposed beyond the original
story or maybe not.
You know, kind of why these
stories endure, I think,
will be a really interesting
question that I'm sure we'll
get asked.
I'd like to know how they
gave a first time director,
the hell of a major
franchise.
Yeah, I think we're going
to hear.
I mean, you know,
she had, you know,
here are some
bonafides.
She had worked with
John Waters on several of
his films, which for me
gives you, you know, I
would, I would let you do
almost anything if
John Waters has trusted you
to work so closely.
Well, that's right.
That'll be an interesting
story.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How do you get that first
time shot of the major
franchise?
That's like giving a first
time director of the James
Bond picture.
I mean, it stopped.
I mean, because you got
everything writing on it.
But obviously she did a
good job because it was a
hit and made lots of money
and that's when Hollywood
comes to the side of the
movies, a hit or not, it
all comes down to money.
There are a lot of good
movies that don't make
money, but the ones that do
are the hits and that's
but the list of TV shows
he's directed.
There must have been 50
of the episodes on TV.
Wow.
Yep.
I mean, you think, oh, I
don't know this person.
I don't know their work.
And then you start looking
and you go, oh, I've
absolutely seen that because I
know I have seen every
episode of.
For me, it's the show
Greek, which is probably
not the one that you've
seen, but I'm like, I
absolutely watched the entire
run of that.
I have absolutely seen this
episode.
But so many, like very well
known franchises, again,
right?
Really that genreed space
that cult space, whether it's
doctor who, super girl,
Riverdale, new quantum
leap, I mean, right?
There's really kind of all
those well-known
franchises and all the genres
that you can imagine.
Right.
From mysteries to time
traveling and sci-fi.
There's some really like
wide range, I think, in her
in her IMDB profile that I
have excited to hear kind of
how do you move between
these genres or does moving
between the genres actually
benefit you to not work
so stale.
And that's so much, so much
that it were excited to learn
about from Rachel.
We tried not to have too many
of the conversations before
she gets here.
Now, how do people go to see
the retrospective?
How do they get tickets?
Yeah.
So you can get tickets on our
website at NKEfilm.org
There's a tile right there
on the homepage to go through
to our cinematic
sisterhood.
Showcase and learn more
about the series, but also
get tickets for these.
Film, 7 p.m. on Friday,
the 24th take girl, 2 p.m.
on Saturday, the 25th is
when we're doing that
seated career conversation
and it was a secret
screening of a television
episode.
You won't want to miss.
And we're following that
up with a signing event,
so it's folks have
hairpinelia,
if they're a fan of any
of this work and would
like to get it signed,
that's going to be your
opportunity.
And then 8 p.m. on Saturday,
we'll round out with
Freddy's dead, the final
nightmare, NKEfilm.org
and click through
or you can go come see us
at the box office.
Day of the show.
I'm not going to promise
there will be tickets available,
but quite possibly
tickets available.
Is this the oriental
downer?
It's at the, we are at
the oriental length
for all of the FDs.
Yeah.
Okay.
Is it a coincidence
that Freddy's dead is
coming up just before
Halloween?
I mean, this is, I mean,
what are the other reasons
that we were trying to
break, Rachel,
but this is,
we were seeing this
retrospective landing
in October.
And we've got,
we've got our
terrible programming.
We've got all sorts of,
you know,
celebratory Halloween
joy.
So, like, landing this
right here in the
Halloween season really
felt kind of synchronous
and perfect.
No.
It is not, it is not
a coincidence,
but it's also not,
not a coincidence of them.
It also is appropriate.
And Rachel has been
in delight to work with
on sort of shaping
what are the things
that we're going to show
and how are we going to
show them and what kinds
of conversations are we
going to have.
And I think she's,
she also is going to get a
kick out of seeing
some of these,
these films on the big screen
for the first time in a
little while,
including Freddie Thed.
Dr. Cara Ogborn.
Ogborn, she is the
artistic director of
Milwaukee Film.
And Dr. Cara,
I appreciate you coming
and talking about it.
And again,
go to MKE Film,
one word MKE Film.org
for all the details.
And all the future
programs there coming up
at Milwaukee Film.
Because somebody's got to
keep this stuff alive
and thank goodness
people like you
and the other people
at MKE Film,
Milwaukee Film
are doing that.
Dr. Cara Ogborn,
thank you very much
and looking forward
to that.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
We'll see you all
at the movies.
If Freddie's dead,
but he may be coming back
again, you never know.
Okay, Dr. Cara,
thanks.
Thanks so much.
Bye bye now.
