Getting Serious About Emergency Preparedness

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Getting Serious About Emergency Preparedness

The Don Rosen Show · Wed Sep 3, 2025

And good morning. It is time to get you prepared for any disaster that comes your way,

except like maybe a phone bill in the mail. It didn't pay anything other than that we're

set for. And my guest are Lorenzo Satos. He's the director of the nursing county office

of emergency management and Liz Adams, who is the deputy emergency management coordinator.

This is part of our Racine County Traffic Safety Commission monthly get together office

Racine County office of emergency management. Now you can check this on the website. I figured

I had to do it. It's Racine County slash safety. Go down to the last one. That's when

we're talking about today. Racine County slash safety. And you should be able to follow

along with us today. Let's start off with the director. Lorenzo. Okay. So what kind

of disasters are we looking at in Racine per se because that's our audience? Yeah.

Morning, Don. So close to that microphone. We want to miss a word. And in Racine, you

know, one of the biggest disasters that we're always looking for since we're close to

a body of water close to the root river is flooding. We want to make sure that we're

always prepared for that. And of course, as we come up on, you know, the fall and winter,

we want to make sure that we are prepared for winter storms. Wisconsin is no stranger

to winter weather. And that's something that we always want to make sure that we're

preparing for here. What happened to winter? I mean, I know tornadoes, hurricanes, I know

earthquakes, so all those kind of things, tsunamis that we don't have tsunamis here.

But you know, I've seen devastation from tsunamis. What winter? What can be the problem?

Yeah, winter can wreak all sorts of havoc. I mean, really one of the biggest things that

you see is obviously traffic flow changes when it becomes winter. You get a lot of snow

that morning commute or even afternoon commute will get a lot tougher to handle. It can

have a huge effect on electricity. You know, a lot of times when we have a blizzard or

a winter storm, all of a sudden the power goes out. So that's going to affect a lot of

people's day, whether it's home or work. So those are, you know, just two general ways

that that a heavy winter storm is going to affect your every day life. You want to see

people panic. And on the ring camera thing, you have a neighborhood thing where people

can type things in. If there's, you know, there's some things suspect them, things

wrong. If there is a blink of the lights, yeah, yeah, panic sets in amongst the neighborhood.

Did your lights blink? My blink, did yours blink? And people, could you imagine having

the lights out for days on end? No electricity? Talk about the panic coming up. Yeah, I mean,

the blink of the lights that's people that can breathe their heart start palpitating.

You guys are kind of young, but do you remember the groundhog day storm we had here 24 inches

of snow in one day? Do you remember that? You guys are kind of young. You don't remember

that? No, no, not here. It takes me 10 to 12 minutes to get here for my home. Yeah.

It took me two and a half hours to get here that morning. And I'm only, I live right here

on Main Street. Oh, wow. And that's how bad it was. It just kept coming down, coming down,

coming down. I got on the road at about three o'clock to three thirty in the morning.

Yeah, yeah. Because I had plenty of time. I couldn't see where the bridge was.

The Main Street bridge. I couldn't see the roads. I couldn't see anything. And I was panicking

because I couldn't see in front of me. I didn't know if I was going to hit the curve, go off the

bridge. I couldn't even go down victory avenue. The snow was so deep. I had a park at wall

greens on highway 20. I talked to the manager. I said, do you mind if I park here? It goes on

pulling over there. And I had a walk here. Nine tenths of a mile. My wife gave me food. I know

she thought I was going to be trapped here. Subcans, a new clothing. But she brought the new clothing,

though. And I had to walk through this blizzard with the snow up to my knees. Nine tenths of a mile.

Where would you guys come in on something like that? Yeah, you know, we want to make sure that

we're getting out is information to the public. We want to make sure that we're telling

it folks what the weather's going to look like. So we work very closely with NWS Milwaukee.

We are always forecasting, you know, previewing what's going to happen and trying to get that

information out and working with first responders. Because they're going to be the folks that are

out there making sure that everyone is safe when people are calling in to dispatch. It's our first

response teams that are going to go out making sure that they're helping everyone. We are those

that the team in the background that is helping out our first responders, making sure that they

have the information that they need and the resources to respond effectively. Let me talk to Liz

for a second here. It says make a plan. How do you make a plan for, well, tornadoes in our case

or even a snowstorm? Or we mentioned earlier that on, I'm talking to you off the air. I thought

it was in connocia. Not how to be seen. A farmer's big tank of not just chemicals spilled and it

was in the air and there were homes nearby. How do you make a plan for something like that? Yeah.

So it's basically it's impossible to plan for everything. So what we try to do is develop

principles and concepts that will be applicable no matter what the emergency. We call this

all hazards planning and do at home. You can also do something similar to this. You don't have to

try to think about every possible emergency. I'm sure most people are not going to be planning for

you know a hazmat release from a farm next door. But if you kind of know where the like a

evacuation route would be in your house or if you know where like the rally point is in your

yard for your family to meet up at that can all be really helpful no matter what the

what the emergency is. How do you plan for a tornado? No, we don't get a lot of them in

we're seeing. I have seen one before when it took the doors off my yards on highway 11 and also

the roof off case and highway 11. How do you prepare for a tornado? Because I mean it'll rip your

house right up the foundations if it hits you directly. Yeah, tornadoes are definitely one of

those hard ones because they can come out and know where they happen very quickly and a lot of

times you get very little warning ahead of times. If you have a basement knowing how

like if you have kids letting them know okay if you hear the tornado sirens go to the basement.

If you don't have a basement identifying a good place in your house to shelter from the tornado

if you're outside generally knowing where to go if there's if you hear the sirens or if you get

the alert that there's a tornado warning imminent. And you can't depend on cell phones because if

there's a storm who knows the cell phone coverage will go out and we know we just got landlines

anymore. So you depend on cell phones. But I think it's important you're meant to mention a rally

point. I mean it's like even if you go out to an amusement park if we get lost we're meeting here

by the carousel you got to have a rally point because we're going to look for people. I think

that's really important that to be number one on your list. You know here's where we're going to

meet if there's if there's an emergency. Let's talk about the sirens because we're very lucky

or I can hear them blasting Saturdays at 4 p.m. Or is it new no 4 p.m. I mean they blast them

test them one one of those hours on a Saturday. We're lucky because they're in good shape now.

There are cities that are wiped off the map and they say well our sirens weren't working we

were going to get new ones to lay now. Sure. Yeah. So we're very lucky. So who's in charge of the

sirens who tested blast those out. Well often it comes down to individual municipalities. What I

will say is you know we get a lot of calls people ask hey you know we we could not hear the siren

a lot of times you're not going to hear it if you're inside maybe sometimes depending on if you

have music up loud you're not going to hear it. So one of the things that I would say is one of

the best things that you have in your toolbox to have that preparedness and have that situational

awareness of storms is get yourself a NOAA radio weather radio those are very important

they're very loud if there are any kind of storms any kind of alerts that come through

you're absolutely going to hear it and it's it's going to be one of the best things that

you can have available to make sure that you get that information in a timely manner.

Okay so that's important get yourself a NOAA weather radio make sure it works on batteries

because yeah it's not going to help you a bunch of the electric set and most of them do I have

one at home and most of them do and it's tuned to a local frequency and they'll let you know

immediately if there's severe weather on the way I could be severe thunderstorms I mean those

wreak havoc I know that. So we have tornadoes of possibility we have snow what else can happen

here whether you guys are in charge of hearing the recene area that we have to worry not worry

about the concerned about. Yeah I mean as you know we just had some recent flooding we're

close to the river that's one of the most common hazards in the country so we're always

making sure that we look very carefully at that there are you know and people may not know but

there are gauges throughout those waterways there are always measuring those levels we are

keeping track of those and we're always kind of making sure that we're able to work with the

national weather service to forecast what those future trends look like. You know I remember

there was a big flood this is like my grandfather. This is years ago when I was at my first tour of

duty here and I was going on a spring street and it was blocked off it was totally

under the homes had the water over their front porches the river overflowed right yeah and I remember

Lutheran high school had sandbags all around the school but it was too late at that point because

they're right on the river there I mean just things just flooded man you've got to be ready for

something like that and I don't know what you could do if the water is rising that fast

I don't know get a robot I mean I wouldn't know what to do other than you know because get

to come in your house sandbags are only good you know for so long before the water gets up

gets past that what can you do with flooding. I've been running for your lives you know yeah and

and that's a very good point you know we're always making sure that we're getting ahead of the problem

that's the most important thing the more information we get out to the public ahead of time

the more the public is able to take effective and timely actions so we're always watching

get that information out if it gets bad enough we want to you know relocate people to a safer area

because as you said you know we don't want it to get to a point where you know there's nowhere to go

so we're always just making sure that we can get that information out as soon as possible because if

we do need to get people to a safer location that's not inundated that's what we want to do as

quickly as we can. Now it says here on the website build a kit what what kind of kit are we talking

about here. So we're talking about a kit that you can build at home for you and your family there's

some general basic things that are good to have in that kit. Number one is probably water

you want to have a gallon of water for every person in your household and pet for per day

and minimum yeah don't forget don't forget about the pets and you want to have at minimum three days

worth of of water you also want to have some shelf shelf stable food non perishables cans things

like that flashlights batteries I want to have copies of any important documents any prescriptions

that your family might be on and then also you know some comfort items especially if you have

young children or pets as well comfort items can be really important. My teddy bear. Sure yeah.

So you mentioned that have batteries which is really important to have and when my mother moved

up here to recene she'd really need the batteries that much I want she passed away I was

cleaning out a apartment and I found this giant box of batteries a couple of hundred batter now

they were no good anymore but she was ready in Florida if something should happen she went on

bought like bought out the entire store of home depot of their batteries I found the end my mother

was ready yeah she had her weather radios she had the batteries and she was ready to the rock and

rolling case there was something now that was in Florida yeah he or she didn't have

have much of a problem so you can build that kit and you said flashlights important fresh batteries

very important and if you have children you're right bring some of their toys with them because

now people get scared I know I grabbed my teddy bear when I get scared and give it a hug and

and the animals bring food for them yeah water because they don't know they just I'm hungry.

Don't forget don't forget about your your furry family members as well and maybe a poop bag for

the dog because if you're at a shelter dogs gonna go they don't know so that's good okay preparing

for disasters that's you know we talked briefly about let's talk more about it because it's on

the site here preparing for disasters and the ones we talked about flooding have you snow fall

tornadoes we don't have any hurricanes here in Wisconsin earthquakes now people say we don't

get earthquakes here we did once yeah and I'll tell you how I knew about it we had a parakeet

in the cage and the parakeet went crazy it would go out there and I was banging off the cage

doors and everything panicking so what is going on later that morning there was a small earthquake

that hit with Wisconsin the bird knew it because she he felt it he felt the whatever there was

and he started the panic in the cage that's how I knew we had an earthquake so I mean nobody really

felt it but it can happen I mean who knows right I don't know if we're ready for an earthquake here

I don't know if people know what to do I mean are we ready for that in case there is one

you know we're you know you don't think about that that's that's a good question we're

planning for all hazards that's something that doesn't necessarily reach our exercises as much

but you want to make sure that you have a plan you want to make sure that you know to you know

get under your desk get to get to a place that is structurally sound that if that building did collapse

you know you would have the greatest of plants of survivability it's something that I feel good

coming to work this morning I don't feel like good anymore but the good news is you know there's

a lower chance of that but you always do want to at least think about it and have that in your

toolkit in case that does happen I'll tell you something nobody thinks about until it's an

emergency and I at least to live in brown deer you know there's no earth in Milwaukee and we had a

big flood big rain nine inches in just a few hours and the interstate I 43 was underwater we

saw cars you know underwater which is gas and oil bubbling up through the water as a matter was

yeah and it was we don't have sidewalks in brown deer so the water just went up my front lawn

and the sump pump couldn't handle it now my house was lower than the rest all that water came here

so I ran out the mnards it was pouring rain and as soon as they opened the doors I ran to the

sump pump department and I grabbed anyone I can find and I stuck it next to the other one in the

hole to get the water out of the house yeah people don't think about sump pumps yep because you

don't use in that often and like anything else you don't use it you lose it so I would test my

sump pump every once in a while yeah make sure that motor is running in there because when you have a

flood that could be your best friend I told my daughter I said get a knife and we cut a hole through

the screen and I put the hose through the window to get out to the street just and went through the

water out of my house yeah it was just coming in really fast and we had somebody here Jane

Matt mayor who works on our other station here she had water and her basement and

early in Grim said he had four and a half feet of water in his basement yeah yeah now I don't

know how for sump pump can keep up with that but at least you know it'll get something added yeah

okay uh teach youth about preparedness do you think young people really know or care about

this kind of stuff oh yeah yeah you do think they do our youth are some of the you know our greatest

assets uh they're very good at you know learning these things and in a crisis you you'd be surprised

just how well our young folks are out there performing really and it's scouts how a huge history

of being a part of emergency preparedness of community emergency response teams so we're very proud

of uh working with our youth and and they're very smart when they come up to us during the fair

and we ask them questions we have the wheel of disaster you know they they generally know what

they're talking about wheel of disaster I know with the sound of that we offer trivia questions

for candy at the fair and it's always a hit and it sounds ominous do you remember any I know I'm

putting you on the spot here but you remember I think let's see well it's something like uh where

is the best place in your house to go in a tornado would be one of my questions it's either the

bathroom in the bathtub or in a door frame what am I close yeah you want to you want to go to your

basement that's the number one basement if you have a basement but what if the bathtub is in the

basement that's good that's good that'll also be a good opportunity to try to go to the basement

because the top of the house will blow away or you don't have a basement a lot of people you know

maybe don't have basement so I had to bring up stories like this but you know where Barnabelle is

Barnabelle to Wisconsin it's not highway 18 toward Madison and it must have been in the late 70s

because I was living in Atlanta when it happened and a series of tornadoes went through Barnabelle

in the middle of the night when people were sleeping yeah and every single house except three

were destroyed every house yeah if they were if you go there today all the houses are modern

except three of them and if you go to the bank in the center of town you could see where half the

bank was were not that because you see the new bricks yeah where they where they fixed it we both

so I went out there and I went to a diner and I wanted to ask about it because I was curious

and I was at least be are they sensitive about it I brought it up and everybody wanted to talk

about it the guy at the register was a volunteer fireman he said happened four in the morning

and there were no sirens everybody was sleeping they weren't ready for it but then they heard

the destruction and everybody panicked because you know you're sleeping in the middle of the night

obviously you don't know what can't see them it's pitch dark outside and every home except three

were just knocked out their foundations nobody died but they were people heard yeah and if you go

there today when I was watching the CBS evening news in Atlanta Dan Rather was talking and they showed

the Barnabelle water tower that was all that was standing and you could see it when you go by today

the Barnabelle water tower and I look at it and every time I go through there to get to Madison

I stopped by the town and they used to have a big diorama right in the middle of town they were

pictures before and after I mean that's not that they're proud of it but it was an historical

thing Barnabelle being wiped off the face of the earth and they rebuilt it is something to be proud

they rebuilt you can see every house is modern you know they were built in the 1980s where you

got three of them were built built about a hundred years ago and it's very obvious so those

houses weren't hit but the bank was half of the building was just knocked of what knocked away

you can see where it was rebuilt but the diorama was right in front of the banks you can

compare old with new right but that goes to show you I mean you can get really hurt let's quick

review here we talked about making a plan everybody you know people put that well we'll do that

tomorrow no do it today yes yeah do it today just tomorrow maybe too late make a plan you can make

a plan for fire what if there was a fire in the house what if you know something happened outside

I mean make a plan what are you going to do where are you going to meet you know

build a kit and when you decided the kit includes maybe some food bottle water

because you don't know if the water is going to be out I mean electricity's out sometimes water

goes out with it build a kit including water and if you have children bring some of their toys in

there you have pets bring pet food because pets want to eat they don't know there's a tornado out

there so build the kit and keep it a play I guess you have to keep in the place where you can grab it

yes yeah real quick you see you know forget about it build a kit prepare for disasters and we

talk to that Noah weather radios yeah one of those and you don't have to be panicky about it

just keep it around make putting the kitchen or something or in your bedroom and just keep it

up you know there so when there is a weather emergency you can turn it on because people say

while I watch it on TV or listen on radio but if you're radio or TV is an electric

right you're in trouble that most radios are it but if you if you do and a teacher youth

about preparedness teach your kids and don't put it off if you put it off you're never going to do it

and you say there are scouting troops and so forth oh yeah preparing on this yes you get your

wheel of disaster and I want the sound of that and just be ready for this stuff that's

mean it's going to happen but it's nice to know that you won't be in a panic if it happens

and how I'm scared I'm going to look it's raining outside let me see if it's still

hey you never know when I think of tornadoes I think of the Wizard of Oz when that lady is in the

rocking chair waving a dart or you got the movie Twister you've seen that right and the cows

going flying by there I mean these things are scary yeah pushing that movie looks so realistic

in Twister in Wizard of Oz you know then looks so so real okay Lorenzo Santos who's the director

of the received county office of emergency management Liz Adams is the deputy director

and the coordination of the emergency management and many people get work in there it's a two person

office and we have we have two part times and we have a volunteer do you have times you cannot take

vacations yeah sure during our tornado season and if there's something major going on it's all

hands on deck and if there's you know something that's predicted you know we've got to be ready

ready to spring and act now this is Lorenzo I got a mic time by hand on the beach of Jamaica

but I think people are having some problems they say here's what we're going to do

my son got us I figured what the occasion was he brought us it kind of said knapsack full of

all this food that will never go bad for like a hundred years oh nice I'm not going to eat that

stop for me to I don't any any food past them few months I'm not going to eat but he got this

because he'll what if there's an emergency he just takes this knapsack but I think he was talking

on world dominationism but it you know it wasn't that bad an idea that this knapsack full of food

that you can eat you know the emergency because you know who knows do you think about emptying

the fridge I still have it I guess it's okay you gave it to us you know 75 years ago so I guess

it's up no I have to take a look at it but it wasn't that horrible an idea to do something like that

yeah right so you're waking up right now you said why miss the beginning of this what do I do

it'll be podcast tomorrow morning on at wrjn.com Spotify Apple podcast wherever you get your

podcast you'll be able to hear it so Liz Adams and Lorenzo Santos thank you for coming in I want

to thank Tom Knitter for sending this up he's from the Racine County Traffic Safety Commission

and I'm kind of nervous now I felt good coming in this morning and now I'm kind of like maybe

I should get that food tested plan and then you'll be you'll be good to go what about those

latter to see people throw out the window you ever see the fire those portable ladders I would never

get on one of those I had to pull a whole frame of the window out of that I go crashing down

with it on my head you ever see those ladders yeah yeah they work you think dude but there is a

weight limit I believe I think I'm over the wavelength I think it was over the weight limit when

I was 15 years old fire guys got you they know what they're doing they'll help yeah just wave

your your shirt out I saw I hit the other day and a little kid he got scared the house was on

fire and the fire went to jump and the kid I couldn't understand he didn't want to jump yeah yeah

yeah caught him right in his arms yep well when you're jumping out with that scary yeah I know it is

and the flames are licking your butt in the background you got a choice what are you gonna do

hit the ground or bird thank you guys for coming in this morning thank you I really do and this

is something that's so important and we're glad we do this every month they're from the

Racine County Traffic Safety Commission

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