Meet Ralph Malicki

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Meet Ralph Malicki

The Don Rosen Show · Tue Aug 19, 2025

We're excited. We have county

executive Rob Malikki in here.

First time you're in the radio station.

When you move close at Mike, I want

you to have to say it is it is.

So this is really good.

So I think this completes

everything that we've had

everybody in here.

You were the last person who's

never in here.

And I was procrastinating because

I'm very nervous about

it.

Oh, we just have a conversation

here.

So I want to introduce you to

people because you came into

office kind of unexpectedly

because of the passing of

Jonathan Delegre, who was our

county executive.

He just, I mean, nobody saw

that coming.

So we had to have another

county executive.

How did you get the job?

Randford.

At the end of the day, I had

initially talked to Jonathan

about it prior to his passing.

And it was because I was

interested maybe in doing

something else.

And he said, well, why don't you

run for a county seat?

Because I wasn't going to move

or relocate or anything like

that.

And I said, you know, that's

interesting.

If it was a county wide seat

where I wouldn't have to

relocate, I might be interested.

He said, well, why don't you

run for a county executive?

And I looked at him and

said, why would I ever run

against you?

So that stuck with me for a

while.

And then obviously we had a

very bad June and July.

I say June and July.

Because four days after his

passing, I lost a real good

friend of mine that was

in the business with me.

So it was a rough couple

months there.

And I just sat back on it for

a while and reflected on it.

And I was looking for ways

to still be relevant and

involved in our community.

I had served on many,

many boards over the years.

More than I can even count.

And I looked at this as a way

of being able to make an impact

on my community in a positive

way.

So that's that's how I got

here.

About a year ago.

Now I decided to run for it

right around Labor Day.

Well, good for you.

Now, did you ever in your life

before you spoke to Jonathan

Delegrave?

Did you ever think of

a public office?

No.

No, it wasn't even on the radar.

You know, I enjoyed serving

on boards.

I always looked at community

involvement at that level.

And that's kind of where the

rubber meets the road.

And to this day, I still serve

on probably three or four

separate boards.

Yeah.

Well, that's good.

Good for you being involved.

I wish I was.

I know.

I can help you.

No.

I told you.

I tell people what I think

and I'd be out there in nine

seconds right?

They kicked me out.

Now, let's talk about some

of your background because

your background is mainly in

business.

Correct.

It's not in the public sector.

You're in the private sector.

You know, you're in the super,

you're in the supermarket.

You still are in the supermarket

business.

Piggly Wiggly.

Yes.

Yes.

The very first supermarket

ever in America.

Piggly Wiggly.

It was not too many people

know that.

It was the one point.

The biggest one.

It was the only one.

It was the very first one ever

in America.

I don't know what you were

probably in the 30s.

I would imagine.

I think so.

Yeah.

1930s.

So you owned three of them.

But you still own a

Piggly Wiggly, right?

We do.

We do.

It's in Lamira, Wisconsin.

My son runs it for us.

My youngest son.

So he keeps a handle on that.

That's got to be a tough

business, always stocking food.

And it's just, it never stops.

It doesn't.

See, if you own at least,

if you own a toy store,

you put the toys on this shelf.

And that's it.

It can be from months.

But food has got to be a daily

thing you cannot let a day go by.

Absolutely.

It's a daily routine.

It's a daily cycle that's never

ending.

It's grown hog day.

Yeah.

Every time I go to the supermarket,

I look at what's on the shelves.

And I say,

the people really buy this?

I mean, who buys that?

And I'm sure people do,

or you wouldn't stock it.

But some of these items on there,

I say, who buy?

I'm going to look at people's

cards.

Who's buying this stuff?

Because to me, it's just like,

what do you want to eat?

You're going to eat that?

What people do?

They do.

And it's, it's typically the

2080 rule, right?

20% of your products do 80% of your

business.

So you keep the others for when folks

like you are looking for something

they need are different.

Now, you had to make a decision

from two of your stores to close them

down.

That had to be a real tough

decision because he putting people

out of work for one thing.

And the community that shop there,

you know, people don't like

change.

I could tell you that.

People don't like change.

And as soon as you closed,

typically, you had changed their

lives.

Because now they had to go shop

somewhere else.

They didn't know where the milk was.

Whereas the, the cereals,

I don't know where they are.

It was a tough decision.

What made you do it?

Well, I will tell you,

it was heart wrenching.

The scene store in particular

because that was what grounded us

here.

That's my roots.

That's our family's roots.

And it was absolutely heart

wrenching.

It was like losing a member of

the family.

What happened was there's,

I talked to you beforehand

told you that I calculate one

time.

There's over a million square feet

of grocery space within a two-mile

store.

And it's an incredibly competitive

business.

We were looking to work out a deal

with the landlords so we could have

it going there and we just couldn't

get to where we needed to be.

So that's we had to make the

decision.

One of the things I'm real proud

about is that I worked very, very

hard to get the employees placed

at other locations and other

businesses so that they could keep

working.

Oh, that's good.

It is throw them out of the street

because a lot of people depend on

this.

We have a, one of our people at

church, she's, she's part of a group

of adults that, you know, they

have to a little help in finding

jobs and so forth.

And she works at a

Piggly Wiggly.

Okay.

And I think it's the one out in

Union Grove.

Okay.

I think that Piggly Wiggly.

That's the Preston family owns

that one.

And she just loves it.

And that's, that's her job.

She just loves that job.

Yeah.

It's, we had a lot of people

that were passionate about their

job and a lot of passionate

shoppers and to this day I'll,

almost every day I'll have somebody

tell me how much they missed the

store.

And it's, again, it's a heart

wrenching thing.

Now, let's talk about, um, you're

the county executive.

What did you know about the job

when you came in?

Because if, if I was county

executive today, the only thing

I would think about, well, we have

county roads because they're

littered.

That's all I know about the

county.

So what is, what does your job

do as county executive?

Well, there's, there's a lot of

things and, and quite, I know

you're still filling your way

through it now.

Quite, quite frankly, I am still

feeling my way through it being

not a lifetime person in, in that

business, right?

Um, so there's a lot of things

that go on there.

There's the relationship with the

board of supervisors throughout the

county.

There's the relationships with the

municipalities.

There is, uh, our overarching

public works department, our human

services department.

There's, there's just a lot of

things that people don't think

about at the county level that

behind the scenes, their response

were responsible for.

The state mandates a lot of

services that have to be accomplished

the county is responsible for

those human services department

is a lot of that.

Yeah, there are county

buildings where you're right,

county services, state

services, city services and

county services.

Right.

Now, do you have any mayors or

village presidents coming to you

asking you for stuff all the

time?

Does the county provide those

services to cities?

Well, we have a regular

interaction with a lot of the

municipalities and work

together in concert with them.

There's things we work on together

with.

And I can give you one from the

past would be the 911 call

center.

That was a collaboration that

was built over the years.

And I think Jonathan had a

hand in that if not earlier.

My wife worked for the

the Caledonia Police

Department for a number of

years.

And she would get 911 calls

at Caledonia and she

formed them out and then they

centralized it.

Right.

And, um, she did other stuff,

but she, when we got my

phone, she said,

she did other stuff, but she,

when we got married, that was

not going to be her life

working for the police

department.

It's a tough life.

I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to

be a cop.

And it's a tough life.

And to the families, it's

got to be hard on them too.

I have a tremendous amount of

respect.

Oh, yeah.

You know, when we have

police people in here, I say,

never take your job in a

million years.

Right.

And if I was being brave, I

don't know if I could pull

that.

But, um, okay.

So you, how many people you

have working under you?

How many offices do you have?

At the cat?

Well, first of all, where is

the county executive's office?

The county executive's office

is on the 10th floor of the

courthouse downtown.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I get around.

I go out to, I have grove

quite often.

I get to the west end office

quite often.

That's right.

That's what I thought it was.

Yeah.

Okay.

No, it's on the 10th floor.

And I have, I want to say eight

cabinet members, which are like

over each different area.

Public works.

Um, the call center,

the communication center.

Um,

HR,

uh,

IT.

So there's, there's about eight

cabinet members that report

directly to me.

And I think the county last

count was just over a thousand

employees.

So now, I know you kind of

thrust into the position

because a lot of people run for

a year.

They think you didn't think about

it for a year.

So what are your priorities?

What do you want to have done in

the county?

What's on your wish list?

Well, the, the biggest

wish list is that we get to a

physically stable position, which

we're working on hard these days.

And, and being physically

responsible for our community,

that's, that's a big deal.

The, the next thing on my wish list

is working on a housing priority.

How can we get affordably

priced housing in, in the community?

And I'm working with different

leaders throughout the community on

that in particular, Jenny Trick at

RCEDC.

So those are things that behind the

scenes I'm working on.

Um,

I, I want to be a collaborative

collaboration builder, if you will.

I see a lot of things in

the scene area that there's many,

many different people working in

the same direction.

And there's opportunities to

bring them together.

So that's a wish list of mine.

If we can get a lot of the folks

in a lot of different organizations

working in the same direction.

And then, of course,

there's the East West gap.

I'm working to build that.

The relationships between the East

and the West and the,

and example of that is in the

area we run the summer youth

jobs program.

I think we had 125 students come

through that this past summer,

where people are, are employed

throughout different businesses

and machine, in a, in a

recene area.

I was a business that start was

involved in that from the beginning.

I think I had the first year

when they only had 25 kids involved.

I think I had three or four of them

at the store.

So I was involved in that from the

beginning.

Now we're looking to expand that

out into the Burlington

Waterford Union Grove areas.

And we're talking to the school

districts out there to expand that

program in that direction.

So we're trying to get a more

cohesive, if you will,

operation going on from the East

to West.

And again, within different

organizations throughout the

county.

Wow.

That's a lot of planning.

It is.

And it's, you asked for my wish list.

That's it.

It's a lot of moving parts.

It is.

And they all have to kind of link

together or it doesn't work right.

Right.

Wow.

So is this, is this like a 24-hour

program?

Do you?

Do you ever go home and say,

okay, I'm turning it off.

I'm off.

Now I'm going to watch, you know,

a date line.

Whatever you watch.

Yeah.

Do you ever turn it off?

I wish I could.

But I don't.

I was never raised that way.

And it doesn't work that way for

me.

I once set a grandparents on the

small, small motel.

And seven mile nine ninety four.

And the other set of grandparents

owned a farm.

Neither business was conducive to

less than 24 seven.

And neither business was conducive

to vacation time and then getting

into the grocery business.

At first, I ran a 24 seven operation,

which you're always on duty then.

And it's just not something that I

could ever get used to.

The eight hour shut it off thing.

The only motel.

Is it a seven mile motel?

No.

It was called high view motel.

It was right on the corner.

Everybody got him confused.

Yeah.

Seven miles just because they're

are in true for the word seven mile nine.

Right.

No, they were right on the corner.

There's a gas station there today.

We are from originally.

Caledonia.

I grew up on seven mile nine

ninety four.

As they were local.

Yoko.

I am.

I am.

Do you ever live anywhere else?

I have not.

I lived in Caledonia for a time when we

first were married.

We lived in Racine.

And then we moved out to North Cape.

A little bit back to your family.

I have two sons, 31 and 33.

And I'm sure if my wife was here she'd

correct me on one of those numbers.

We've been married for since 88.

So what is that?

37 years?

Good for you.

And she spent 36 years working at

Ascension as an occupational therapist.

And now she's with Aurora out in

Burlington doing the same thing.

So.

And most of my family, my mother still

lives on I ninety four and seven

mile.

So we're still firmly rooted.

My sister lives about three miles from

me.

And the both boys are probably within

six miles.

Why do you have the whole family here?

Yep.

They are.

The good part is you have the family

of the bad card is.

Bad part is they'll come over for

Thanksgiving and eat all your food.

Oh, that's not so bad.

It's not so bad.

It's not so bad.

It's not so bad.

I know it's not.

It's great because my family

scattered all over the country.

They were in all four corners.

How did your wife feel about you taking

the job?

It's kind of executive.

You know, she's kind of rolled

with things over the years.

And this is another thing she's

kind of rolled with.

She's been very supportive.

And during the campaign, we did the

holiday parades.

And I think that she found a groove

with those.

So she's been very supportive though.

Oh, did you?

Yeah.

Are you in the fourth of July

Parade?

Did you?

We were three out of four of them.

We did not make the routine

parade because logistics just

didn't work out.

We did Union Grove Waterford and

Raymond.

Yeah.

We were going to go.

Well, I was in the parade here,

but we, what we do is we alternate

union because my wife is from

Union Grove.

So we alternate between the two

parades every year.

But this year, I was in it.

It was raining and this.

Well, it started out raining that day

and it went to hot.

So we had it all.

Yeah.

Luckily it had a car with a roof on.

And people say to the rain

bother you.

No, I rolled up the window.

I didn't get wet.

It was an old car from the

early 50s, so it was not a very

comfortable car.

But it didn't rain inside of the

car.

That's all I cared about.

Let's talk about some of your

initial successes.

You mentioned one of them a few

minutes ago.

Well, yeah.

We've, we've done a few things

already.

We've partnered with the Wisconsin

policy forum.

That was one of the things I

wanted to do right out of the gate,

so to speak.

They're doing a study for me that's

indicated.

It's going to tell me if we're right

sized in our departments.

In other words, do we have the

right amount of people?

Do we have the right service

level for the money that we

spend on it?

So it's kind of a third party

study impartial to identify where

we're at, county wide, with the

size of our operation.

That's one thing I wanted to do

right out of the gate was try to

understand this thing a little

more and make sure that we're in

the right position.

911 system improvements.

We've got coming up where we're

going from a system where I'm told

that we are lucky to get parts off

of the eBay for it.

A really to a modern day system

which will become much, much more

reliable, not that today's is not

reliable, but it's at end of life.

So that's coming up soon.

Recently in May, we opened up the

Jonathan Delegrave Youth

Development and Care Center.

That was a challenge, but that was

a challenge that was started by

Jonathan and the staff previously

to me getting there.

I was only a steward of getting

it open towards the end of the

end of it and then we also

broke ground on the new

residential treatment facility

across from our Taylor Avenue

facility coming up hopefully

open next year, depending on our

construction progress.

So we've had some steps early

on here that I've been parts of

that I'm proud of.

And again, I'm working on

partnerships across the

county again with the RCEDC

partnership for the housing

initiative and trying to bring in

different groups and

conversations into that as well.

So anytime we can get people

talking about things and

collaborating, I look at that as

a victory.

Small, but I'll take them.

Now, you mentioned earlier you've

been on boards before.

Yes.

But never holding a public

office.

And this is a big public

office county executive because

it's big.

Did you ever sit and say,

oh, what did I get myself into?

I do.

I do.

And I think, I think, you know,

people ask me, are you

settled in?

And I think if you answer

yes to that or you don't at

times second guess, you were

talking about how you're a

warrior.

I think I'm a warrior on

steroids as it relates to this

job.

Yeah, I think about it, but I

also know that at this point in

time, it's the right place for

me to be.

Well, that's good.

And is it big?

Is it harder than you thought it

would be because you didn't have

much time to think about it?

It is.

And again, you know, if

somebody says they're

settled in, they're not doing

it right.

They're just not.

It's something different

every day.

I had envisioned it has being

about the management of an

operation, much like a grocery

store.

Because you ran grocery

store, so you knew the big

picture had to work, right?

How to get things all

working.

It's different with the

county.

It is.

And it's a lot of

relationships.

It's relationships with the

county board.

It's relationships with other

municipal leaders.

And I'm learning to navigate

that.

It's a lot of relationships

with the county board.

It's relationships with other

municipal leaders.

And I'm learning to navigate

that and how to build those

relationships because, again,

I'm an outsider coming in.

So there's a lot to learn.

I had a bunch of people to say

hello to you when you came

in today.

Beth Heidorn at the

Racine Zoo said to say hello.

There were some other people

too.

I don't know what their names

on the radio.

So I won't mention them.

But we have Melissa

Caprille and come in here a

lot.

She's a county board

supervisor.

We also had somebody else here.

One of the older ones also

a county board supervisor was

in here.

And I wish my memory was

a lot better.

But they had nothing bad.

Nothing.

Nothing.

I even heard one negative

thing about you.

So that's pretty good.

I wish you just give them time.

We'll give them time.

It's too early.

Give them time.

It's early.

I know a lot of people say

just nice things about you.

And I appreciate that.

You know, I was talking to

somebody else about the job

over the weekend.

And to your point about it's a

big job.

And they were saying, well,

you're the person in the role.

And I said, you know what?

It's a big job.

But I'm not a big person,

so to speak.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you had to run things.

Right.

You had a run thing.

You know, people,

because you have to,

people who never had a business

before.

I mean, I was a program director

for about 20, some odd years.

And I knew how people thought

and worked.

And I knew how to get them

motivated.

And that's what my job was here

to motivate people.

So what do you see for the future

for you?

Well, that's an interesting question.

This is eight months into

basically a two-year stint at this

point in time.

It's too early to ask the question,

are you going to run again?

Even though I probably will.

I enjoy the position.

I enjoy the people that I work with.

And I'm enjoying growing the relationships.

So we'll see what happens.

All you need is one

and God forbid,

major catastrophe in the county.

And everything changes.

Floods could be a derailed train.

It could be a lot of things.

And all of a sudden, boom.

Life changes.

Indeed.

And it's nice when things are going

nice and smooth.

The way you like them.

But I'm not getting you.

I did hear nothing,

but nice things when I told people

you were coming in.

Oh, you're telling me I said,

hi, I just said it's a nice guy.

And Beth was going

and I can remember off the top.

I appreciate it.

I was board chair for her for some years.

So we had a good,

we have a good relationship.

And I enjoyed that.

One of my favorite boards to serve.

Yeah, people like working with you.

You seem like an easygoing person.

I try to be.

Yeah, very nice.

I'm so glad you came in today.

You are welcome here anytime you want.

You've got something to say.

Say Donna got to get on right away.

Excuse me.

I'm in the middle of a song.

Stop the song.

I got something to say.

I appreciate that.

You are welcome here anytime, sir.

County Executive Ralph Maliki.

And you got to know him now.

We didn't know who you were before.

Well, now we know.

And if you missed this,

you know, I missed the beginning.

It's going to be podcast by late tonight

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So you're going to be forever.

Great.

That's why people I always say you got to be careful

with your say because it's going to be out there forever.

It lives on.

Yeah.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

I do appreciate you coming in this morning.