And good morning, it is a special morning. We have our W R J and historical marker number
13. This is where we look back at the history of W R J and the people that made the history
over the last 98 years. And this morning we're going to be talking to a young man whose father
announced his birth on this radio station. We're going to be talking about Lyman Marens and here he is
talking about the birth of our special guest, David Marens. And yesterday morning at 846, even I didn't know
was 846. We got that at the hospital at 835. A boy was born to Mr. and Mrs. Lyman Marens at
2901 Axler Avenue. A little boy, 7, let's see, 6 pounds, 7 ounces. Come on in, George, have a cigar.
Bill, come on in, boys. Have a cigar. Let's open this fresh new box of Stokes. Come on in, boy, have a cigar.
Well, thank you. On behalf of David Marens. George, come on in, George. All right, give one to George. George can't leave his controls.
Surely, come on in, here's Box County to all the new parents from the Block Furniture Company, including me.
We extend congratulations and best wishes. John is again tomorrow morning every day, Monday through Saturday at 740.
When the Block Furniture Company 419, Maine Street again presents the Little Red Book.
And that is our guest being born. That is something. I, I, that's, I can't remember the last time I had a guest on the radio.
We actually had his birth. Hey, David Marens is here calling for Oak, talking to you from Tennessee this morning.
And thanks for joining us. I do appreciate it, David.
Well, thanks for having me and I didn't know you were going to do that. Neither did I. That was the surprise tomorrow.
Thank you so much for joining us in here. Tom Carco, former news director of WRGN for years. And he's going to talk about he knows more about your father.
We got a picture of your father staring me right in the face right now. And would you find it?
Would you get that Tom? Well, I've had that. Well, actually, David, I believe gave that to me. Thank you, David. How you doing?
I'm doing great time. How about you? Very good, very good. We should let everybody know that I worked here from 1979 to 2018 for 39 years.
And I'm kind of the historian now of the station. I have a lot of stuff referenced the history of this radio station.
Part of it. Thanks to David and other things that I've acquired. So that's why I'm in here talking about stuff that's happened in the past.
Do you get that emeritus title? Yeah. There's nothing else.
Emeritus. All right. So David, let's talk about your father.
What's this the first station he worked at? Do you know?
No, it wasn't actually after he graduated from high school in Chicago.
And before he entered radio, he worked as a bookkeeper at the Chicago Stockyards for armor and company back then.
There earned money so that he could go to business school and broadcasting school.
He always had an interest in broadcasting. And I think back then his big desire was to be the sportscaster on WGN radio in Chicago.
Of course, you got to have some experience to do that job, but he did apply there.
And what's interesting about that is he actually started in radio at WHBY in Appleton, Wisconsin.
And he was actually referred to WHBY by WGN.
So I thought that was a kind of an interesting thing.
And so that's where he started.
He came to Raceme in 1944 to work as a staff announcer at WRGN.
And then he became the program director in 1946.
Why did he come to WRGN? There's a little bit of the story there.
Yeah, well, I guess when he started, he told me about it a long time ago, I still remember it.
When he started at WHBY, they couldn't pay him a lot.
And I think they promised him a raise maybe after he would be there for about a year.
Well, the year came and they couldn't afford to give him a raise.
So they said they wouldn't blame him if he decided to look elsewhere.
And they said they would give him a glowing recommendation and everything, which they did.
And I guess he moved to Raceme to get about another maybe $5 a week back then.
I think he was making maybe $35 or $40 a week back then he told me.
And he lived at the YMCA on the lake in Raceme for a number of years.
That's gone.
That the building is now gone, David.
Yeah, I noticed, yeah, I was up there recently when I saw you and yeah, I noticed that.
It was, it was come down.
My dad always said to three sure things in life are deaf taxes and change.
Yeah.
So this is he comes to WRGN, which is located at the time on the third floor of the American bank building downtown,
which is now the Raceme Art Museum for everybody who's listening.
And so eventually, of course, he transitions out to the current location of Victory Avenue radio park.
And it's, it's so he's, he's gets this job and it's really not long after basically a year later,
he gets to do something very important on the air.
And it has to do with the former president.
Yeah, Franklin Roosevelt passed away.
He got to announce that to the city of Raceme, but there's a funny story behind that.
And I talked to a journal Times reporter after my dad had passed away.
We had to talk kind of quick because he was facing a deadline and I had to send a quick picture.
I wish I could have sent the better picture, but everybody was in a rush to get the story in the paper before the deadline came.
And basically he said he was in the car, you know, listening to the radio.
And he heard the report come across another station.
He turned into WRJN and he hadn't heard anything.
So he drove over to the station.
I forgot what show was on now.
But anyway, he said the alarm bells were going off by the teletypes.
I guess the Associated Press had reported it and they had a bell.
I guess they would alert the station to a bullet coming across.
I guess nobody heard it or paid attention to it because they were over in the studio area.
And he came in with the bullet and then announced it to Raceme that the president had passed away.
And he said they probably wouldn't even know it today if he hadn't gone.
And there he used to joke about that a little bit.
And when he walked in, he kind of was shouting, hey, how come nobody's reporting this?
The president just died, you know.
They didn't realize it, I guess, at the time.
And I guess not too much time had gone by before he got to the station.
But that's what you had to be careful on those reports, especially today,
because you never know who's scamming you on these reports.
By today's standards, yes, back then, that when you get it from the Associated Press, that was that was word.
The only thing I ever saw come over on a flash.
I took two flashes, Nixon resigns, challenger explodes, two flushes.
I happened to be driving into this station and heard about the challenger explosion on another station, ironically.
And guess what?
At that point, we did not have it on the air.
So I always like a block away from the station.
And I got in and then told News Director Don Edmmerk about it.
And immediately we went to ABC News.
And those flashes generally come over like in two words.
That's all they gave you. Then they gave you the bullet and then they gave you the urge and say after that.
But yeah, nowadays, you kind of triple check these things because you don't know scamming you.
Nowadays, yes.
So David August of 1945, your dad's at work downtown in the bank bill.
He's reading news, I believe, at the time.
And all of a sudden, he starts getting teary eyed.
What's going on?
Oh, that that one.
That was when they had a tear gas system in that bank, I guess, to help fork robberies.
And they were maintaining the system that day.
And apparently they accidentally cost a tear gas release.
And the broadcast engineer control engineer, my dad,
kept the station on the air while everybody evacuated the building.
35th engineer.
Yeah.
And there's a picture of your dad in the journal times wiping his eyes.
It's, I believe we have it here.
And it made the newspaper.
It was that good.
The tear gas system had been installed.
This is 1945. This happened.
It was installed after the Dillinger gang robbed that bank in 1933.
Right.
I remember him telling me about that too.
And yeah.
And if I'm not mistaken, I think that was on the front page of the Racine Journal Times
that, you know, when it was printed.
Yep.
Who tests tear gas?
I think it was more an accidental release.
I got to believe.
Who tests it?
Let's see if it works.
Release the tear gas.
Yeah.
Somebody must have bumped a switch when they were working.
Yeah.
That story made it all over the state of Wisconsin probably outside
over the wire services.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, yeah.
If you look around, say newspapers.com,
you can find like UPI or AP stories about that.
No kidding.
Wow.
I didn't know that.
Well, yeah.
It's a unique story.
Very unique.
It sure is.
Yeah.
Groundhog Day in 1949.
Your dad talked to Brother Groundhog as it was built at that time.
It was built at that point on shortwave.
Do you know that story?
I heard a little bit about that too.
He also interviewed Santa Claus once.
Okay.
Yeah.
But yeah, I've heard about that story too.
Groundhog.
They did all kinds of unique things to attract the listeners
and get their interest in.
And there was a caricature in the paper of your dad and the Groundhog,
and the artist's tradition, because they couldn't get a photograph of it.
So they had an artist's creative.
I think he kept a copy of that.
I think I remember seeing that.
And I probably still have it.
I kept a lot of his things that he kept.
Because not only was it, I mean, it's historic.
Even to the ton of racing and to him and to the family.
But you know, with his career there for so many years.
So I held on to everything I could that was that he had.
He always said someday this stuff will be yours.
Well, it became mine.
And I've tried to preserve it all as much as I can.
They couldn't get a picture of a Groundhog because you've seen one.
You've seen them all.
This was the Groundhog.
This was the official Groundhog.
And your dad was here from 1944 to 1970.
The announcer program director.
He did a lot of stuff with this radio station.
He did.
You know, in 1947, he and one of the salesmen at WRJ and originated the telephone quiz show.
You can't lose.
And started out as a 15 minute show once a week.
And then it became a Monday through Friday show that ran from about
12.35 to 115 in the afternoon.
And it was broadcasted all into the 1970s.
I don't know how long that show kept going after he left.
But I know it was on for a while.
And I know the station gave away thousands of dollars and prizes over the years on that show.
And because of that show and it was in his been on earlier days of broadcasting.
He developed an easy style of talking with people and managed to get the most out of each conversation.
And he also used to do a man on the street programs featuring adults and children.
And interviewed many prominent personalities and most presidential hopefuls as well when they came to race scene.
Let's listen to a segment of you can't lose.
And we're ready to drop some gift certificates here way with our first call this afternoon going out to a number four.
With whom am I speaking?
Mrs. Bending, good afternoon.
Mrs. Lyman-Marins calling from you can't lose over WRJN.
Oh dear, you say why.
You didn't expect me today?
Well, Shucks, I didn't know that Mrs. Bending.
How come you weren't expecting me today?
Is this the first time we've ever called you?
First time, well, then you had a reason not to expect me today.
Have you known the answers to some of our questions in the past?
Yes, you have, but you probably won't know the one we have today.
Well, you're not going to like yourself when I tell you that we have $62.50.
Oh no, she shouts in the telephone.
Didn't they put phone calls on the air back then?
Who knows if there's really someone at the other end?
Yeah, they really did it.
And I guess eventually they Stan Fisher or somebody came up with the way to make it two-way.
I know where you could hear the other end.
You were right.
Very easy conversational style, very casual.
Just talking to folks.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, your dad, you talked about the man on the avenue.
He did uptown recene, which outside the theater up there with the theater building is still there.
It's not a theater anymore.
But he would talk to people and man on the avenue in uptown recene.
1948, there's an ad promoting that.
Just talking to shoppers in front of the theater and, you know, getting people on the air.
And just he talked to everybody.
It was amazing times.
Okay.
How did they do the remote of doing that?
Well, they had shortwave back then.
Is that how they did it?
They did shortwave or they did it by phone.
Stan Fisher and I think it may have been after Lee Decken to left the station.
But Stan Fisher was the chief engineer.
I mean, they strung phone lines everywhere.
It's downtown uptown.
You name it.
They put phone lines.
They also eventually brought in shortwave, which was a remote transmitter.
Basically, and you brought it back to the radio station.
And they brought cash from different locations.
So it may have been that.
It may have been the phone lines.
Don't know specifically.
It's a lot of work.
Now we just use a cell phone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
Stan was an electronics genius.
And he inspired me.
Along with some of the other engineers there, the broadcast control engineers.
And eventually, I ended up with a career in electronics myself.
A lot of my inspiration for that came from the radio station days.
Even when I was a little kid.
So just want to throw that in.
Stan Fisher, Lee Decken, they did a lot of creativity in terms of the company.
They did a lot of creativity in terms of equipment for WRJN over the years.
And a lot of the equipment that came to the radio park site on Victory Avenue.
A lot of it had been created by those two and continued after Lee Decken left.
And Stan Fisher was in charge.
So, who knows?
The rack that's in the back of this studio might be the same rack that Stan Fisher brought in in 1957 when they moved here.
When you do the man on the street interviews, don't you take a risk going live with these things?
And they're, yeah, no delay system, right?
Yeah.
Do you take a risk?
This person isn't going to say anything, you know, for any profanity or even something controversial coming out of their mouth?
You never know.
Different times, though.
Takes one night.
Yeah, it's one.
I think there was a word called decency back in where most people, I mean, you're very much relied on everything would go pretty smooth.
But I suppose they were prepared in case it didn't.
Whoa.
Yeah, I got it too.
There are a lot of photographs and ads in the newspaper over several years that your dad was here talking to different people.
Also, for business promotion purposes, he would be in the pictures for the winners of Queen and King for a Day.
You remember seeing those pictures?
Yeah, in fact, I think I've got one with me right here.
I've got a few things here, but yeah, Queen for a Day.
Yeah.
Everything was to promote business back then.
And they did a lot of promotions, a lot of contests.
And your dad was involved in pretty much all of them because he's the program director.
So he's kind of running the show on from that end.
Yeah, he used to talk about some of those programs.
And he did save some of those newspaper ads and articles about the shows and, you know, these newspapers are starting to deteriorate, but they're still in pretty good shape considering how old they are.
We are speaking with David Marins.
His dad is Lyman Marins, who is very historical in the in the growth and the history of WRJ.
And we call this our WRJ and historical marker.
This is number 13.
It's Lyman Marins.
Now Lyman is no longer with us, but his son David is.
And with me is Tom Carco, who is our station historian.
And he's very good at putting these history days together.
Now Lyman Marins, I, I, I wasn't even radio when he ended his career here at WRJ and in 1970.
I was still in high school.
And, but we played earlier.
David Marins birth announcement on the air, which I thought was amazing to have your birth.
I mean, who's got that?
You're dad captain.
Yeah.
That's one of those.
The only, the earliest picture I have is me laying, but naked on a couch in the Bronx.
Okay.
That's it.
That's all I have.
And that's, I know you don't want that image.
Yeah.
So, so we've been talking about Lyman Marins career and just to backtrack in case you're just joining us.
He started here at WRJ in 1944 and wound up his career in 1970.
He started as a staff announcer, wound up as program director.
And chief announcer.
And chief announcer.
Don't forget that.
They have that, the title chief announcer back then.
And it's, it's one of those things where he made a lot of innovations of the station to put his mark on WRJN.
And let's continue.
His voice was significant in the history of this radio station.
So I got something July 1959.
There's a citizen letter to text rentals, the columnist for the journal times at the, at that point.
And that citizen letter is in support of your dad and a bunch of coworkers here at the station.
They want to plant peach pits along the street.
And they wanted to call it peach tree lane.
Did you hear about that?
Um, maybe a little bit.
I might, I might have a story on that.
And I recognize the name text rentals.
Oh, yeah.
Is one of the journalists at the time.
Yeah, who also did some work on this radio station.
He would opinions of the passerby back in the earlier days.
Yeah, makes more sense to have that street in Atlanta than it does here.
Really?
Just something they, yeah, just something they did on the air.
I'm sure your dad did on the air just to grab some attention.
And maybe text rentals would, would get wind of it and sure enough it happened.
And got a little attention in the newspaper.
Many different programs.
They tried to, I mean, they were helping people.
They're informing people a 1968 a job with on your dad.
And that doesn't name Bob James ring a bell.
Yes, it does.
I remember Bob.
Tell me about Bob.
Well, he, he was one of the, I would say one of the newer members of the station.
When I remembered him, I remember when he came on board by dad to help hire him.
And he had a music program.
It was a rhythm at random.
I think it was or something like that that he used to broadcast in the afternoon.
I think he went on the air about the time my dad would leave at 330 in the afternoon.
He would come into the station and basically he took my dad's place during the late afternoon
and into the early evening.
And so I didn't always see a lot of them because he'd show up later in the day before my dad would leave.
And of course, I was in school during the week most of the time, unless it was a holiday.
Sometimes my dad would bring me to the station on the holidays.
And so then I'd see other people that I didn't normally see.
Who are some of the other staff members that you remember?
You talked about Bob James here for a second.
And who are some of the others that you remember from those earlier days?
Oh, there was Gary sewer, of course.
And Tony Simchek.
And I remember them real well.
And Bob James.
I just mentioned I remembered.
Norb Trodger.
I like Norb.
You couldn't help but like Norb.
I remember him.
He was at the station a long time too.
And he was there I think even.
I don't know if he left at one time and came back.
I sat in the back of my mind and said something like that.
But yeah, I know he was there at the time.
My dad left in 1970 and was there for quite a while after that.
My dad used to bring him a mail from the after union that he used to get.
And he'd bring it to Norb because my dad wasn't at the station any longer.
But he would keep Norb and formed it in the station and formed those that were interested about some of the union information and activity.
Norb was here four different times over the course of his radio career.
Always an interesting guy.
Always great stories.
I got some of the best information and stories out of Norb.
I have an interview with him that I've recorded and gotten information from him.
Also the fact that you mentioned the union.
This was a union shop for many, many years.
Up until a certain point in the 70s, I believe.
And yeah, one century insurance bought the station.
And I think it was maybe part of the reason why my dad left one he did.
My dad was working part time in real estate from about 1955 even up until the time he left the station as a sideline.
And he loved people.
He liked talking to people.
He was a great real estate salesperson, very knowledgeable.
He got licensed in everything.
He worked for LL Freeman back in 1955 for a while.
And then eventually he ended up at, I remember in the 60s, he was at Plaza Realty across from Elmwood Plaza.
Burger Hansen ran, her own Plaza Realty was broker.
And that's where my dad met a future partner where the two of them built homes in Racine.
I mean, they started the homes over by Halter's Lake off Chickory and started homes up on Meacham Road south of Taylor Avenue.
He built about five or six homes there.
And we eventually moved out near that area too over on Sherry Lane in Pleasant Valley, which was Hansi's property.
And I know Tom, you don't look too far from there.
Back then and now.
Yeah, man, you were our paper boy.
I remember Sherry Lane, which helped me, you let me substitute for you.
So eventually I ended up with a route myself.
So you started my career time.
We were eventually going to get to that.
Yeah, it's David and I had a connection that I delivered the newspapers to their house.
And then he became my substitute.
And then he eventually got the route.
So.
Did he steal around or did he get the route?
I always wondered if you're dead by the, my dad might have talked about it.
I don't know.
My dad knew your dad for a long time.
He was, I know your dad was a circulation manager at the journal times.
My dad just talked about them.
I mean, they didn't, they know each other for quite a long time.
It was a remember the journal times Labor Day pic next, you know, corn road.
So that was my favorite thing.
I ate more corn than anybody.
When the JT on the radio station, yes, they did things together in terms of those
extracurricular activities.
Yes, they were, they were a family.
It was a family.
Yes.
You mentioned, you know, Plaza, July 1958, your dad's there to broadcast the
grand opening of the JC Penny store in Elmwood Plaza.
There's a picture of him doing that.
Yeah, he told me he interviewed a penny at one point.
I don't know if it was at that grand opening or another time, but he actually
interviewed JC Penny.
Wow.
Yeah.
1959, it got something.
Your dad's, uh, did recorded inter, now your dad did stuff outside of just the
Racine area.
Your dad was invited to do some things in Washington, in outside of the country.
Now, interviews with Wisconsin's two US senators and Racine's congressman at the
time on the exchange visits by President Eisenhower and the Russian premier Nikita
Khrushchev.
He did interviews with those officials and then played it back on the air when he got
back to Racine.
Wow.
Yeah.
I remember he interviewed a commander of an aircraft carrier too.
I've got the tapes from that, by the way.
I don't know if you found any of that and any of the archives, but I did find the tape.
I hadn't played it, but it's labeled, you know, the aircraft interview.
And I've got pictures from that aircraft there and a view what he took my
mom with at the time.
And I think it was back in the, maybe the late 50s or possibly early 60s.
I don't remember the dates on that, but it's old and, uh, I guess,
the whole interviews on that real-to-real tape.
I've heard it's the music maestro theme being played by Chuck Rimmel at the keyboard
of the mighty Wellington, introducing today's music maestro show, music for your afternoon
listening enjoyment, organ stallings by Chuck Rimmel and a musical favorite
guest on the music maestro show.
It's our WRJ and Historical Marker series.
We continue number 13, Lyman Marins and his son is joining us today, David Marins
and Tom Carco is here as well, a former news director at WRJ and
let's talk about that what we just heard.
David, you talk about it.
You gave me that piece of audio, thank you again.
Well, and I'll tell you that's another one of the things at the radio station that
really shaped my future life as an adult and a career.
That was the music maestro show and Chuck Rimmel was the owner of John Charles music
company in Racine and I guess I started learning to play a chord organ when I was
about three years old and matching numbers and letters instead of reading the notes
themselves and eventually I guess my dad had told Chuck about it and Chuck thought,
gee, you know, maybe you should buy an organ and let him take lessons.
Well, my dad eventually did that and I not only was interested in learning to play
but eventually I also got interested in promoting the sale of
Whirlitzer organs, ampianos but mostly organs back then and Chuck used to use me
because I don't know how to phrase it.
I didn't know what they were doing time I was pretty young but even he brought me,
you know, my dad brought me to the station even when he thought maybe I'd want to
play a couple songs on the radio back in 1965.
First time I did that and I guess I learned later while that was a good way to
promote organs.
You know, here's this kid playing and hey, if a kid can do it and adult can do it.
We learn to play.
Were you on the air with your father a lot?
Not a lot at times and eventually as I started to learn to play more and play
better, he would bring me in on holidays.
Chuck would be off and so so that they could have some live organ music.
I'd come in and play a few songs on the radio to fill in that live music time slot.
And here's a little history time about the music maestro show.
Chuck wasn't the first live organist at that station.
Oh no.
There was a gentleman named Orson White who used to play on the Venetian Theatre organ
when the organ was still installed at the Venetian Theatre.
Back in the 40s and 50s they had live organ music, you know, wired into the station downtown
there to where they could broadcast live music from the Venetian Theatre organ.
And Orson, when he retired, he had, well, before he retired, he was a Hammond deal
or sold Hammond organ out of Milwaukee and had a partner or girlot.
Well, I think was also associated with the station back then.
I mean, he may have performed there as well, the two of them, but Orson White was the main organist.
In fact, the organ you heard at the beginning of the show on the little red book
that was Orson White playing the Venetian Theatre organ.
They made a recording of that.
And that organ was, that theme was broadcasted every morning, even through the 60s
and as long as they have program ran until they probably made a change to that.
But that was Orson White on that theatre organ.
So you were one of the staff organists at one point.
Yeah.
Yeah. Orson, my dad told me to go down and he moved to Sarasota.
And when we used to vacation down in Florida almost every year,
my dad always wanted to stop by and see him because they were really good friends.
Well, my dad was working back in the 40s there.
And I guess he and Orson and Orson's family, they used to hang out a lot together.
And so they became really good friends.
And so we used to visit him when we go to Sarasota.
But when we moved to Florida back in 1973,
and I got interested in one of the largest worlds or dealers in the United States
was where we were living.
And boy, I was interested in that place.
And my dad told me to go talk to Orson to see what kind of future I might have in the music business.
And Orson naturally encouraged me.
So again, you know, the radio station was a big part of my life.
And my dad's time there and the people he knew.
I mean, it was an influence for me as well.
But anyway.
Hey, David.
David, were you a big celebrity in school?
Well, your dad's on the number one time.
I mean, people knew who my dad was.
But you know, my dad always kind of downplayed the celebrity side of it.
And he taught me.
He says, you know, it's a job like any other job.
And you know, even to this day, you know, when I see celebrities,
I don't go too crazy.
Although there are certain people you'd go crazy for anyway.
But I understand it's a living.
People make a living doing different things.
And he says, this is just another way to make a living.
And that's the way he always looked at it.
And he said, you know, the station provides the service.
And, you know, an EU.
So at the time, one of the faces of it, not the only one.
Yep.
And so that's the way I was kind of taught to look at that kind of thing.
We're going to play something now that your dad did by phone from Florida
in December of 2006.
We called him up, and he was on the radio station's 80th anniversary broadcast
that we did from Memorial Hall.
We had live music.
We had the horse and white at the Phoenician Theater organ.
We had a little bit of gravel on a file then.
We had Bessie Mittler playing a piano.
We had live people.
Do you have live people anymore?
Yeah.
We still have a few live people around the radio station, yes.
And the radio station was always geared at the community.
Community service.
Yeah, out and about.
Right?
Right.
You have a mat on the street broadcast right on the corner.
You ever have any interesting occurrences with a mat on the street segment?
Right off and I can't think about it.
Except when General MacArthur came through town,
we had an elaborate setup on Main Street waiting for the general to stop.
And he blew town faster than he had been.
And boy, he came through with a sunglasses.
Everybody said, who is that?
Well, the three of us are alive.
You know, so that's good.
But your dad was very gracious to do that.
And we appreciate it that very much.
You're here.
You came to visit the radio park studios as they exist today not long ago.
And I'm curious what your impressions of the place were or are compared to what you remember.
Well, first I was happy to see it was still there and still going strong.
And about to celebrate a hundred years in existence,
which is incredible in itself.
And my impression, like my dad always said, things change.
Well, it's funny though.
When Dom was showing me and my two grandsons were with me.
We took a trip.
I wanted to show them where I came from.
And it was very nice.
So if you time the phone, I talked to you about the hundredth anniversary coming up a little bit.
And you helped set that up for us.
You called Don Rosen.
And then he contacted me.
And we made an appointment to take a tour, which was very nice.
And I remember meeting Don a long time ago when my dad and I were up there.
I think it was one of my uncles passed away.
And I drove them up the Racine.
And that was the first time he'd set foot in that station since he left in 1970.
You know, when that union mail would come to our mailbox and he'd bring it to the station
and wanted to give it the North trotter, he'd send me in to give it to him.
For some reason, he just, I don't know.
He loved the radio station and everything, but it was just, you know,
at the time he just felt it better that he'd stay out in the car.
And he let me take it in.
So I used to get to talk to normal a little bit when I did that.
David, your dad was one of the most recognized voices in this station's history.
And his body of were approved it.
Thank you for joining us today.
Yeah, thank you, David.
I do appreciate it.
All the way from Tennessee.
That's interesting.
He couldn't do that back in live in Marin State.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stand might have figured it out.
Yeah.
Thank you, Tom Carco.
I love having you in here at the station of story.
I can't do these without you.
By the way, there's no way I was going to pull this off.
David, thank you very much for coming in.
It's here at WRJ and historical marker number 13.
And hopefully we'll have some more.
It's, you know, we got to get these in because not everybody's around all the time.
Thank you, Tom.
Thank you, David.
